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It's that it's fascinating to me how easily someone in one religion can find the fallacies and biases in another religion

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I think that what's fascinating your raise your razor -sharp on your your your criticism of Islam here

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Yeah, and but what I find fascinating Jeff is that you recognize that with other religions

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But you don't do it with your own because I And there's that confirmation bias coming up again

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All right. So with that Until Matt comes in the

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I'm gonna be I'm gonna deal with well Interesting topic

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So I'm gonna what I want to do is Go over some things and then what

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I'd like to do until some folks come in is I would like to go over an issue called black liberation theology

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Which is essential to understand when people talk about social justice and talk about critical race theory things like that and so You you have to understand the background for some of this stuff

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I'm going to torture many of you and because some of you will find this to be torturous and Others may not maybe some of you are going to be agreeing with critical race theory and black liberation theology

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So maybe some of you have heard of the idea of black liberation theology or critical race theory social justice intersectionality, these are all terms you're hearing more and more and These are terms that are not gonna go away.

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In fact, if you are watching the Democrat National Committee's debates you're hearing these things come up It is kind of funny if you watch those debates, they just figured out that Elizabeth Warren is white

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Because the only black woman is out of the race now and they're saying that the

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Democrats are there They're basically attacking their own now they're basically going after the Democrats and saying that they're not black enough because I Think all of the black all the african -americans have now dropped out maybe the only one that may still be in this african -american is

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Unfortunately the senator senator of my state Yeah, so we we have

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I don't know if Cory Booker still in the race or not but So that may be the only one

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Don't know but they're the argument that they're even going after is they're saying that there's not enough

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African -americans who are running that somehow that is showing that the Democrat Party may be racist then this is a thinking maybe you you you've heard around where somehow there has to be a

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Enough african -americans or enough, you know, if you listen to glad glad had a

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I figure what it stands for but it's like gay lesbian I forget but it's like some action committee to promote homosexuality and so what the you end up seeing is that they are saying there's not enough homosexuals in the in the movie industry and therefore there they should do something about that that Somehow they're there.

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They got to correct that problem Which I don't not sure it's exactly a problem, but they they were arguing that there's only 20 % representation of people who practice homosexuality inside of Hollywood movies now think about that 20 % of the movies are played by people that practice homosexuality or they're representing homosexuality in Presenting it in the movie and yet when you look in America We had a recent census that came out and basically reveals that those who are in Homosexual relationships are basically point thing.

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It was point zero three or point three I forget but let's go with point three that's higher point three percent of America So point three percent of America and yet they have 20 % representation in Hollywood And they argue that you you'll hear this argument that somehow if you don't have enough females or African Americans or homosexuals or whichever the victimized group that they're arguing for if you don't have enough of them being represented somehow you're racist you're

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Sexist you're whatever and this is where critical thinking or critical race theory comes in Where you start to see this?

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You know you see this playing out and so We we end up seeing a lot of the what's called

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Black liberation theology it comes from a man James Cone and what

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I want to do is give you some of what he writes so that you can see where this comes from and See a little bit about why this isn't gonna go away and there's no end to it.

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There's no endgame So this is I'm gonna read the some quotes here today from James Cone's book black theology black power and so what he's arguing for is he's arguing for a

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Basically for this black power that he says that we need to have and Some of the things that you see he's gonna talk about things

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Maybe you've heard people talk about white supremacy and The the thing that you're you have to understand with this when you read his writings and you read what they have what they say

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Their arguments are really stuck. I would argue in a century old arguments they're arguing that African -americans or blacks because it's black power that the reason for black power is because blacks are not treated as Human they are subhuman in America and because of that That's gonna be an issue.

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They're also not equally represented in their Voting which

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I you know, if you think about those two issues. Yes, that was Centuries ago an issue where blacks were treated as if they were not human beings almost

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No, actually exactly Shall we say like children in the womb today where children in the womb are told they're not really human they're

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Subhuman by the way African -americans in at least in America are aborted at the largest number of any group

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So if if African Americans really were believing that then what we should see is

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We should see them being against abortion in killing off so many of their own

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So There's a whole bunch of quotes here that we could get into and I'm trying to not take the really long ones because That could take too long to read so so some things you end up seeing here is

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Here's a quote that you have Black power. What does black power mean according to James Cone quote black power means black freedom?

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Black self -determination wherein black people no longer view themselves as without human dignity, but as men human beings

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With an ability to carve out their own destiny unquote No, let's break that quote down and examine.

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He's saying that black power is freedom black freedom How is he defining black freedom as by self -determination?

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Well, who's determining things for these blacks right now, in fact It's not to think about if you look at this

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You have many African Americans that what they end up doing is they will will be conservative

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And what do we hear when you have African Americans that are conservative? They're an uncle Tom They're an

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Oreo black on the outside white on the inside because they're not voting the proper way

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Well, then is this really about Self -determination or is this about a political agenda?

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because what you end up seeing here is that they're arguing for in a sense and someone in the chat is is even saying and Look at how they treat

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How they attack black American candidates own and that's a great example So Matt's Matt's in here saying that he he texted me

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When I take a breath, he'll come in. Well, I sent Matt the the URL he's got to check his texts

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All right. So what you end up seeing is how do they treat Candace Owen and Anyone anyone that wants to to join just go to apologetics live comm the link is there

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When we get some folks in Andrews in here right now, but when we get he always lets me know when he's got questions

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But oh here comes Matt There we go, and so if anyone wants to join and ask questions

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We can we can discuss those things. So so let me let me and we'll see what Matt thinks about this quote

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Matt Did you get a chance to hear the quote that I read or now? Okay, so so here's the thing you end up seeing with this black power when you hear that folks talk about this

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You have to ask the question of are they being treated or viewing themselves as not having human dignity if If that's case, where's that coming from?

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Where is it coming from that? African -americans are not Not being treated with dignity.

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Now the issue here that you see is this becomes a ever -moving target

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Because when you say that someone doesn't view themselves as having a certain amount of dignity

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Well, they can just change once they get to one level of dignity change it and say well I still don't feel like I have enough dignity because I need something else

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The the argue That this is something that can realistically never be achieved why

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James Cone will say And if I could find the quote, I'll quote him, but he's gonna argue that It that there were never in America will there be whites who will ever see african -americans or blacks as being human and So what he argues he'll say this about black power black power is quote black power

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Then is a humanizing force because it is the black man's attempt to affirm his being unquote

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But but who's who is it? That's the dehumanizing them It's not the whites

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It's it's themselves When they're saying that they don't have this dignity that they expect

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But you know Matt you you have shared this many times you grew up with a last name slick moving around from home to home to home because your dad was in military and so that caused you to Let's put this way did everybody always show dignity to you

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Everybody show what I didn't miss. Oh heck. No Right. I was treated so badly so much that I know it's also skinny buck -tooth and Because I moved, you know 26 times before I was 12 12 different elementary schools

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I was treated so badly by so many people that I didn't stop having nightmares of being murdered

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Until I was 35 So yeah, so so and you're not black right, so No, I was white.

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It was Yeah, it was the white people that gave me the worst trouble See me.

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Yeah, and this becomes a thing. Is that who gave you? The main problem with this whole thinking is how do you get around the fact that who gets to?

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Define what dignity is so so, you know when you have people arguing like this Matt What becomes the main problem with this way that they define dignity?

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Well, it's subjective and you know, the thing is if you define dignity, like I'd listen to what you're saying with this guy

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You know, I would sit down with to say well, what definition do you have? When would the criteria be met?

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Why is the definition the right one? These are serious questions and Plus there's a lot of black people who don't think whites are human some of the

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BHI people They don't think that whites are human to some of them. Some people think that whites are devils

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I mean it happens all over the place. Nobody's exempt from being prejudiced and When people start using the prejudice to start saying well,

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I'm of a victim status and therefore I need to Get treated better or I need extra privileges because because I think the thing here is that the people are not looking for equal rights

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They're looking for extra rights, right? Well, I was treated badly left and right upside down backwards forwards

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For years and years and years that was just me being friends with you. Yeah So, you know, it just took me a long time and it just realized no one's gonna help me

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I'm gonna help myself I gotta I gotta you know You know, I wish people would stop whining the white trash the black trash the brown trash the yellow trash

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Whatever you want to say, you know, I'll just stop whining Do what you got to do to You know to help yourself who else is going to help you you want to handouts because this idea of You know this in this case with this this black guy, but what does he want?

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He wants the culture to change to help them So he's saying wait a minute What dignity so he is he saying so that we can have everybody else change everything so that we're elevated But that's not dignity

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It's a That's just you know a helping hand Doesn't help yourself dignity in that I didn't like to have to do that when

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I had to have When I was in seminary and I had to have food stamps kind of stuff to survive, you know

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I'm trying to provide my family. I didn't like that, but you gotta do what you got to do but Anyway, I'm rambling that kind of stuff really just annoys me

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Stop whining, but see where this where I see this is really being dangerous is you're starting to see some of this creep into the church

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Now I'll actually now it's not even creeping in but you you have so much of the same victimizing mentality coming out where now

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It's like I was dealing with this on Twitter where you know people are saying that if I if I have the nerve

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Matt to say that God has ordained Different roles between men and women in the church that I'm Somehow I'm an abuser of women.

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I'm abusing women How am I abusing women just because that view suppresses them and I had

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I had this lady that told me this and and I said Well, she said when you say that a woman had to submit to a man, that's abuse

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I said so are you saying when in Ephesians Paul says in Ephesians 521

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They were to submit to one another that we're all abusing one another She's like well know that that has the idea of that we we would show preference to one another

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And I said, okay. So then what does it mean in a couple verses later? She's like that means he's got the wife has to obey

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He forces her to obey and I'm like, that's not what we like. We now established you understand that What submit means that it's to that you you put yourself under?

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another person and yet When you when it comes to husband and wife you're saying it's that the husband who's doing the forcing when the

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The reference in the text is the wife does the wife is the actor so she knows the differences in the terms

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But purposely uses that because it creates this emotional response And and this is what we're seeing a lot of to try to force churches to accept female pastors.

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Oh Yeah, I was on the wise late getting in here dealing with an issue about somebody with a pastor a woman pastor thing but yeah, it's a you know, you know people don't realize submission is voluntary and If submission is bad, then and it's an abusive thing

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Then was Jesus under a system of abuse when he submitted to the will of the Father Well, that's exactly that that was exactly the thing that I had said

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I pointed out to her was the fact that Christ submits to the

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Father is that abuse is God the Father an abuser now after I put that out there. She stopped responding

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Because they ran I challenged them I said come on in to hear One of the guys it was very interesting me and I'll be curious what your thought is on this

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Matt So how would you have handled this situation? So I'm talking with a guy He's arguing for women's being equal in in authority in the church.

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They could be pastors and preachers and He just he rejects what Paul says

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I said, well, that's what God wrote and he said no he didn't so now he doesn't even He doesn't even believe it's

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God's Word. He doesn't believe He says that the Bible contains discrepancies, so here's his two discrepancies ready one

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One was that the Bible teaches that the earth is a round flat disk Okay.

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Now this is the irony. He told me I'm not scholarly I'm not but he is because what he gave me was a picture of a comment like a study

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Bible with notes and so the notes were you know, I think was

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Isaiah where it says the the earth is round and The notes explain it's a flat disk.

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I'm like, that's not the Bible. That's commentary like he doesn't understand those that difference his other argument of a discrepancy is that with Noah's Ark you have

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Animals coming on two by two, but some it says there's two by they all go on two by two

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But there's certain animals that you have pairs and certain animals you male female certain animals

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We have seven of them and so seven is an odd number. You can't have them go on two by two So, how how would you handle that those two discrepancies that he claims are discrepancies easy.

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Take your right hand put it in front of your face Look to your left and slap yourself side the head

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Yeah, you did it right I mean come on it's just those are not discrepancies those are those are just facts

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He's just looking for something to complain about that's all he's got an agenda over Scripture And that's what needs to be focused on is that I think is that you just you just have a desire

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To war against God's Word you have a desire to call God a liar You have a desire to say

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God is not capable of of keeping his word intact and secure and true

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So you're the one who's under judgment from God for your heresy and your lies against him and you know

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That's I say to people because that's I think you need a blast between the eyes sometimes So, let me give let me give you some quotes from James Cone and I'll let you

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Respond with some of these things And again folks if you want to come in and ask any questions, it's we're doing an open

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Q &A tonight You just go to apologetics live .com you can watch there you can join the link to join using

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StreamYard is there So so here's

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I'm just gonna try to look for some good quotes to give you so Here's here's one

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He says black power. So they just say it's in quotes, right quote black power in short is an attitude inward affirmation of essential of the essential worth of blackness

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It means that the black man will not be poisoned by the stereotypes

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That others have of him unquote Was a racist Okay, now we get into the what now that presents a problem when you talk with black liberation theology and critical race theory because They will argue that blacks cannot be racist it's impossible.

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I just say I'm sorry, but you're a racist so When they say that Matt and you're saying they're racist.

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They're saying they can't be What is for folks who may be struggling with this?

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What becomes the issue? How? How can you be so absolute like what is it that you're doing to say they're racist and yet they're saying they're not

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Because there's there's a clear thing that's break that's being broken down there what they're doing is just simply

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Saying that because they're black that that's why they should have blah blah blah blah blah.

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That's bait That's racism. That's what racism is saying because of a person's race skin color, which

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I don't agree. There's there's races There's only one race a human race. That's my position. But for this context, we're using the term race in that sense

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So he's fomenting and Furthering racism is all he's doing in his ill logic in his stupidity and he needs to repent and that would just call him straight

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Out. So you're a racist You say well, I can't be racist. You can't and denying it doesn't make it go away

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You're a racist because you're trying to say people because of their skin color. That's what racism is

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You're a racist Okay. So first off humble clay says Matt's a hundred percent correct.

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So there you go It's only correct if humble clay is a black person then

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Because logic is dependent upon your race apparently also well, okay so you what you just did there was you gave a definition for racism and it's a

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Would be the historical definition for racism You know

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Because your your race racism was defined On Skin color being of stereotyping people and Restricting them on things because of the color of their skin or say one race is superior to another race

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Yes, that's And that's what they would say white supremacy is right.

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Well white supremacy is racism. Mm -hmm But it shouldn't it should be abolished But then how how

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Logically if white and this is the thing white supremacy is supposedly racist

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But then isn't black power because is that not saying that the black man needs to be superior? Yeah, that's racism, too

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What if we said white power that's racist black power. That's not racist White people should be given certain percentages of jobs less racism black should be given certain percentages of jobs

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That's not racism. That's equality. You know the double standard that kind of thing so I would you end up seeing is

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They're playing with a different definition than you yeah, they're not being logical or you have an agenda

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So there's a difference between logic and agenda people have agendas. They want something to be promoted and logic truth facts scripture are often trampled underfoot

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At the necessity of an of their agenda. And so what's their agenda?

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It's a racist agenda to promote black people they say to the equality of white well

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What does that mean? I mean What does that mean? I mean,

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I used to go to the my martial arts. There was a black guy. We'd work out with I Insulted him like I did anybody else in there.

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He took shots at me like anybody else. There's no racism there. We were equal He'd come over he would go do things with my white daughter

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I didn't care You know, I had to watch them my white daughter would take take martial arts with us and see he and she

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Wrestle on the ground, you know in martial arts you do that kind of a thing as you're learning lessons. I don't care

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You know, what's equality an attitude? Is it a forced attitude?

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What's equality? What do they mean? What do you mean? You know, these terms have to be Have to be examined

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I just get so tired of the mamby -pamby illogic that comes from so many people who think that they're being great and social justice idiocy and and Pictures, it's just like oh she'd stop, you know

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Well, I I think one of the things that you know that I see with this this quote that they they have here

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Right here you they're saying black power is it's an attitude Okay, and wait, wait, wait, what's the attitude what's the attitude it's well you just say it's an attitude and inward affirmation of The essential worth of blackness, but how do you define black?

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Then it's an added for that. I like blackness. My daughters think that black guys are really attractive

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Okay So they must what was it? That's that's being black. Was it what's the term?

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He was saying it was black power Then they affirm black power Well, and that's the thing that for for whites to affirm black power, they they would have to say that they

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Could part of this is that black power is also as we saw earlier. It's saying that whites don't accept the blacks as being human and Yet they do see you're not human who says blacks aren't human well this is the whole argument for black power that James Cone makes is that that Blacks in America are not seen as being human beings and I know he says that which

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Would show me some people who say blacks aren't humans. I mean, I like I see that well,

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I actually may have that soon because I was talking to a guy last

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Sunday about some of the stuff I'm reading in James Cone and You know what you ended up seeing is he said oh well blacks aren't aren't human blacks aren't treated as being human

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Like are treated as being human considering Being human is different that that's interpretation and there's a difference there

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Yeah, so what you end up seeing though, is that and they're the way they end up viewing things is to say that They're they're thinking says that whites don't treat them as humans, but it also says that whites will never treat them as being humans and And that becomes the dilemma you it becomes on that you can never get out of but the other part of this definition

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That's interesting. It says that black power. It means that the black man will not be poisoned by stereotypes of what others have

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Now, here's the question Is this not a stereotype Yeah Right.

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I mean so here you have some Logically this becomes a self -defeating argument, right?

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It crumbles on its own because the the argument that we're they're not supposed to have stereotypes of blacks

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But blacks can have the stereotypes of whites or of blacks as well And this is oh god, no,

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I'm with you double standard So so so far we've seen that this thinking

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Matt you you've shown that it it requires to a Subjective standard not an objective one.

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Therefore it can mean anything to anyone We see that it's it ends up breaking logical things because it they're arguing for Not having stereotypes as they stereotype so that becomes a

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An illogical argument So if they have a subjective standard

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This is something that never ends it you'd never come to a point where you can conclude this because if they're saying

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Racism has nothing to do with skin color anymore. Now. It's starting to do with How you think?

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politically How much money you make It reminds me of The novel 1984

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There's a phrase Newsweek news speak. Thank you.

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I'd want to say think speak, but it's news speak Yeah, what they would do in 1984 every should read that novel.

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Everybody should is seriously. It's not because it's cool No, you should read it. It's it's it's brilliantly done.

37:55

But Yeah news speak yeah, they would just make it 2 plus 2 equals 5 they would work until you believed it by Propaganda illogical they would have that have the propaganda machine and the main character works in the in the field where he has to come up with Replace the news so they would they would change a word.

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So let's put it in the in the way we're using this now you have the word racism which used to mean that you

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Stereotype people and treat them different because of some you know, either color skin facial whatever and that's they would that's what racism is, but now racism is an economic thing and so what they would newspeak would be is where everybody just changes the definition and now everyone just starts accepting it and You know people

38:45

Matt I gotta tell you when I read 1984. I was like, this is ridiculous. Okay back then

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Yeah TVs that would be able to you know Because they had these devices at a

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TV that actually had cameras and microphones in it to listen in on people.

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Oh wait, that's Martin for special anymore. Yes smart TVs and part of the thing is

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I said, there's no way you can convince people to just change their their the meanings of words that quickly and It can happen it is happening look at look at the whole issue with with the genders now,

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I mean this is Brand -new it's never seen this in history where all of a sudden people are saying well,

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I'm born male, but I Identify as female you had people that dressed as the opposite gender

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But they're actually saying they biologically are a different gender They're redefining what it means to be male or female that reminds me because I just realized recently that I identify as a lesbian who is actually

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Part black part Asian and a little Hispanic mixture and I'm stuck in a white man's body

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So now what do I do? Because that's why I like women now. We'll see but here's here's the problem at Being a white male

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You can't make that claim You see if you're white you can't claim that you identify to be black we you know

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Boys at the end the the head of the NCAA double AP, right?

40:22

he was actually white and and you know She did had her hair, you know permed into an afro and she but she identifies as black and they were like you can't do

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It that's that's making less of blackness So, you know, it's good that's called stupid if occasion

40:46

Yeah, I mean Angela here says I'm so sick of all this nonsense. I've been thinking about Going off the grid.

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Lol, but it is it's a pretty nice You know, I want to go off the grid.

40:59

That'd be nice Have a nice I've been watching off the grid shows that he's coming

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I'm like, I'm gonna go off the grid in Hawaii someplace. Oh No, that's not that's not going off the grid

41:12

Matt that's that's trying to relax it and enjoy the beach I Could be off the grid solar -powered.

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I need an internet connection Stop off the internet don't work

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Matt. I need internet connection and But all my power and everything be right there and I would need a jacuzzi and a hammock

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So what you see here folks is this is called newspeak Matt is redefining what off the grid means

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One the way I want it. Yeah, that's right And I do want I need a you know solar power and a salt heater what heated water?

41:51

I need all those LED lights, but I gotta have internet because you know, I'm gonna make a living See with it but off the grid means not being on the grid like no electricity

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No, no, no, they have they have they have their own electricity Well, okay, they can make their own electricity.

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But you know part of the grid is like, you know, the Internet is the grid I don't know.

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I'm gonna redefine the way I want and I don't accept them now What gives you the right to redefine that my subjective preference?

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Okay, but my subjective preference says that you can't redefine that so which one of us is right? There's an obvious answer because I'm slicker than you.

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I win. Oh No, we know that it's not true I'm slick.

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Do you do we need to play the clip that proves that? My last name slick.

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I'm slick. That's what it is Well, all right. Let's see. Let's see if others think this is from the council when you were on the council

42:57

It was Andrew the one that helped you get the podcast back up Yeah, he did get the podcast.

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You know, he did it. Don't you think you owe him a dinner for that? So we look at which one of us is like me no, no, no, that just means

43:20

I owe you dinner That doesn't mean that I'm not slicker than you Well, you haven't out slicked me yet on that one

43:26

Well at times, you know All right, so so But but I mean,

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I hope that folks are seeing what you know What is going on when you and I start trying to argue from a subjective view?

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There is no right anymore Well, you can't say there is no right if we're off into subjectivism because that would mean that there's no right

43:51

We should be absolute not subjective. You can't say that But but when what they are doing is saying that you're a racist you're in or in this case,

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I'll give you the other case because I know to the fact that women are You know shouldn't be pastors and people would say

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You know that that isn't it makes you an abuser. So Someone says you're an abuser.

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Are you an abuser? No biblical We need to do

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I need to do is have an award a diaper, you know bronze diaper They've got the diaper any in the award just send it to people, you know, and for a little extra money

44:32

You can get them filled with something All right

44:41

We're gonna leave that in people's imagination. They should be able to figure out what that's going to be filled with But but this really does become the problem is that if someone removes absolutely

44:50

Absolute standards and then tries to have arguments like this about right and wrong Truth and falsehood it completely breaks down Yeah, you know and and what ends up happening with this whole

45:08

Black power issue is it puts you in a position where? They're still arguing the arguments that were true when people were slaves

45:19

Because of the color of their skin That they weren't treated as human, however

45:26

Again, I said earlier in the show we have that teaching today if people say that if there are people and there are these blacks who are pushing for black power and saying that the blacks have to be given extra rights or treated better or Being given extra privilege because of the fact that they're not treated as being human beings

45:50

The question is how do you define that? How do you how does that be? how do you get to say that someone else isn't treating you like a human being because what we see today is blacks and whites in America are not treating one as if one is enslaved to the other or one doesn't have

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Equal rights as the other now, they're gonna argue that though that the laws allow for that Well, the laws also allow for one group of people to be told that they are not

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Humans in America today and it's called children in the womb Children are told they are not human and they can be killed and murdered and so what you end up seeing it with abortion is you end up seeing that People are will argue the very thing they're arguing against here

46:42

If those who argue for black power were also anti -abortionists, they would at least be consistent

46:49

But they're arguing as they have equal rights and equal dignity law

46:55

Yet they also promote abortion because more African -americans are being aborted than whites

47:03

Okay percentage wise when we look at the percentage of America and so you end up looking at this and you see those percentages

47:10

There's way more African -americans that are being aborted than there are the as far as the total

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Abortions then there are the percentage of whites versus blacks in America. So it's it's larger there

47:23

They're supporting the abortion and yet abortion says human beings are not human beings

47:30

Yeah Yeah, that's bad Good point. There's someone in the text wrote.

47:36

What if you do if you're saying a lot of work or a quatrain, you know What do you do then?

47:41

You're a mixed race Well, that would be my kids right I mean my kids

47:49

Kids mixed race because I'm from a Russian Romanian background. My wife is from Hong Kong.

47:55

So she'd be from a Chinese background My kids are a mix What are what are they, you know, and here's you're a better -looking than you.

48:03

That's for sure. I agree. I agree Here was an interesting thing Matt when when my kids are applying for college.

48:09

We try to get scholarships as minorities Right Asians are

48:16

Should be a minority because they're not as many raising that that's the definition of a minority Minority is fewer than the majority, right?

48:24

You know, there's less of them I literally was told that my kids wouldn't apply because they're not a minority and I said what what makes them not a minority they're

48:34

Asian and the response I got back is there they have an education But education doesn't define whether someone's a minority that's it that's a numerical thing and so What you end up seeing is you you have them

48:53

Redefining what it means to be a minority to being about education levels and finances Just it's what's it called.

49:02

You call it news speak. That's what it is. Yeah Trouble clay says I believe it's in New York that more black babies are are aborted than born and I believe

49:11

I think he's correct there And so someone is saying

49:17

Ethan Tanner says should I watch prescribed truth or this oh Well prescribed truth is is

49:26

If he is live right now that explains why he didn't join me I sent him a text and said to get in here because he should have prescribed truth is a podcast from Jamal Bandy, oh

49:40

Should we do this Matt? Do you feel like being really triggered? I Don't know

49:46

I'm tired tonight. Just one of those nights for me, but I could tell this this This would be fun to do for folks who don't know prescribed truth

49:59

This is I'm gonna pull up a video Where is it so prescribed truth has a a

50:17

I must have spelled this wrong. So what he has a

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YouTube channel called prescribed truth and He's got a

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If I could spell this right he's got a series, all right, I'm just gonna look for woke brother

50:38

I'm typing it wrong Let's see.

50:50

Oh, here it is so Let's see if we could figure out which one of these Okay, so let me bring this up Matt this would be fun

50:59

I Will share this so you can watch this But I gotta redirect the audio.

51:08

So this is this is one of the he does this as a complete parody okay, and This is

51:16

Jamal Bandy from the prescribed truth. And this is he's got a whole series called woke brother and Her brother he corrected me on that.

51:25

It's woke brother not brother. So He he's he Addresses I think in this one,

51:32

I'll see if I grab the right one, but he addresses in here different articles news articles

51:38

That are real articles that are out there and he ends up he is doing a complete

51:45

Parody on what it means to be a woke person Okay, he's gotten a lot of criticism because some people didn't realize it was a parody

51:54

So some some people were saying he was extremely racist and others Others that are woke we're saying that he's not

52:04

That he's not representing them, right so You let me know if you want to stop at any point and interact with what he's what he's saying

52:12

Or if you just want to sit watching and laugh and enjoy Well, can you hold real fast?

52:18

Because I need just told me that there's a package. I got to get from outside. Otherwise, someone's gonna steal it, you know

52:26

Downstairs with my portable still be able to listen so So while he's let me read a couple more quotes that I wanted to get to so so here's some other quotes from from James Cone and That we end up seeing so he says

52:43

It is necessary to describe a prior mood of the black man in a white society when he when he first awakens to his place in America and feels sharply the

52:57

Absolute contradiction between what it is and what ought to be or recognizes the inconsistency between his view of himself as a man and America's description of him as a thing his immediate reaction is a feeling of absurdity unquote now what you end up seeing there is

53:22

He's arguing for slavery, but slavery ended a long time ago in America he's describing

53:27

America as having a view that a black man is just a thing and this is one of the things you see their arguments are still based in slavery or When there was not equal rights to vote because they say they don't have equal representation

53:41

But the equal representation argument came from not having it an ability to vote so you end up seeing that they are still using arguments from Generations ago and not dealing with current -day

53:57

America James Cone ended up saying this there's no place in America where a black man can go for escape unquote

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Well, there's nowhere that he can go in America then the you know

54:10

Realistically if you take black power Literally and see what they're saying if there's no place in America for a black man to escape

54:19

The whiteness then the only thing that they should do is leave I mean that that's it.

54:25

That's the only option But that but they're not leaving they want to change America, but yet they say that it can never change

54:32

There's nowhere to escape, but yet they're going to try to change that You see so this becomes a thing.

54:38

This is what shows you that this is not about a theology Remember the name of this book is black

54:45

Theology and black power and so it's teaching a theology and this is very anti Study of God.

54:54

This is very much study of man study of of a political theory

55:00

Let's uh, Matt you get a kick out of this. It's four minutes long

55:10

So y 'all been thinking it's a game the whole time You didn't get the message the memo that I sent last time

55:19

Now y 'all keep asking. Where's the injustice? Well, I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna reveal it to you

55:26

Y 'all are trying to go across this bridge on our backs

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And it ain't happening this racial Injustice against my people because blackness is where it's at.

55:43

It's where it's always been at I told y 'all wake up That we ain't taking no more of your racism and your whiteness and what

55:57

I've come to realize is that this has been going on for years and it's showing up in many different ways

56:05

I Told y 'all we woke. It's a reason why y 'all sleep

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Now I'm gonna show you something. I'm gonna show you some more proof that your whiteness is perpetuating an evil

56:19

That your whiteness is hurting us in many ways and y 'all need to be held accountable and That's what

56:27

I'm here to do Black men who experience racism age quicker than those who don't

56:36

That's evidence See, you know what you can't even see it right now But I got gray hair growing in my head and that's because of y 'all

56:44

I'm aging quicker. I'm 30 I shouldn't have this gray hair in my head But we aging quicker.

56:51

I know other black men who got gray hair at younger ages than that is because of the racism

56:57

Having to struggle in life because of y 'all know Matt. Didn't you turn gray by about age 12?

57:07

No, so this guy is actually a parody sounds pretty serious. Yeah, that's the whole part of it he makes it sound so serious that people were believing it, but He's gonna get some of the equipment but see this is this thing these quotes that you see here are

57:21

From the daily the daily mail. These are these are real things that are in the news that he's interacting with That's that's the thing.

57:28

He's taking real news articles and And and going through them there's some

57:36

There's one about that's coming up that's classic so causing us stress told y 'all

57:48

Black people have to wait 32 % longer than white people to cross the road 32 % longer

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You telling me I can't cross the road because of your racism Man let me cross the road

58:07

If you see me finna cross the road stop your car so I can walk across See in the crosswalk you do it for them white folks.

58:15

Yeah Do it for me you see me finna cross the road Stop your car.

58:21

Let me pass The you know this the funny thing about this Matt and there's someone you you and I both know

58:28

Chad Pridmore Yeah, I just had lunch with him today as a matter of fact you you got to tell him that you watched this video

58:35

He so the guy that was doing his website He he was checking out all the the podcasts in the

58:42

Christian podcast community and he's looking at them and Because he wants to protect

58:49

Chad and and he sees prescribed truth. So he goes out to hit this channel. He watched this video

58:55

And he calls Chad and says dude, you gotta get away from those people that this guy's racist He totally bought that it was like legit and Chad is like no, it's a it's gotta be a joke.

59:06

It's got to you so we Chad was like laughing when he actually watched this to see that Because it's it there are some people that I mean these are real articles and yet Someone's here is in in the chat saying is he serious?

59:21

Yeah, he's he's doing a parody But but this is the the article that he's quoting says that you know

59:28

People have to black people have to wait 32 % longer than white people to cross the street

59:36

Could it be if they walk slower Could it be like You know and I don't know how they come to that conclusion either

59:47

So the next I think it's the next one that cracks me up the most I mean when you know, he's not serious

59:52

This one's really funny Y 'all racism man isn't affecting us on the road racism among drivers

01:00:04

We'll show you one more thing. We'll show you something racism making people fat

01:00:15

Look at this This ain't this ain't from eating everything and overeating.

01:00:21

This is from your racism Your racism is making people overeat y 'all don't even realize

01:00:28

Wow own up and take accountability for your actions white people

01:00:36

We're sick and tired y 'all find a way to kill us off and that's how y 'all doing it.

01:00:42

What give us all these diet plans No, don't give us no more diet plans stop your racism

01:00:49

Hating on the black man, then we'll see change then we can lose weight

01:00:58

I'm tired of walking anyway I'm tired of walking on these paths and walking for an hour and all that crap when all you got to do is stop a minute

01:01:06

Aren't sidewalks white Sidewalks are white.

01:01:13

So they're what? No, no, that should be good. I mean to blast can walk and trample underneath the whiteness of the feet underfeet

01:01:21

He's one of the videos he's got he's got he's got a picture of a african -american woman and oh, what does he say?

01:01:28

And uh, He was saying something with her and then saying um Like the the the white man the might man walks in the on the uh,

01:01:37

The backs of blacks or something He's got a whole series of these

01:01:43

But uh, all right, so I'll stop that but I mean the would you end up seeing there's

01:01:48

I mean There's people that actually couldn't figure out That he was complete parody there There were actually african -americans who were saying hey, look, you know, you shouldn't be saying that so like that way because Won't be accepting of it

01:02:02

But they actually believe it. I Just love when he grabs this he grabs his cheek.

01:02:07

It says I'm not I'm not fat cuz I'm stuffing my face I'm fat because you're white privilege

01:02:14

That's right, but I mean this is what you end up seeing with this this whole idea in the whole movement is

01:02:21

There's there's no way And you're seeing this with those people that are trying to give in on the whole

01:02:29

LGBTQ movement They when you see people kind of cave and you let's talk about the

01:02:37

Mormon Church in Utah So recently Utah has has given some policy where they've they're basically saying that you know, different groups are not allowed to Discriminate against LGBT but for now

01:02:54

They have a clause that says that that it The church is excluded from that Right, and so that got passed and what was the very first thing

01:03:05

I said, it's a good start Right you there was a recently

01:03:11

I don't know if you saw this Matt there was a guy who thinks he's a girl and he wants to use the girls locker room and He fought to you know

01:03:18

Be able to use and what they the school wanted to do was set up a separate part of the locker room

01:03:24

For him to use and he said no you're discriminating you have to treat me like I'm a woman I'm a girl and I should be treated that way.

01:03:32

He wants to be he wants to be in The locker room while the girls are changing so they've they passed the bill in the school

01:03:42

Five to two so that he the one guy can use the the girls locker room and be in there when everyone's changing

01:03:50

Now all the girls are upset But we got to make him feel good so we don't care about all of the girls that Don't want that because they got to get changed in there and they had one interview with a girl that broke down crying because she's

01:04:04

Like, you know, I'm on the swim team. I I have to change and shower Twice a day in that locker room and he's gonna be in there just watching me

01:04:14

Like I don't feel comfortable with that, but they don't care how these girls feel. It's it's placating to This and what happens soon as they pass it they asked him to interview this kid and say how do you feel and he goes

01:04:26

Well, this is a good start You see it's only the start they did there they argue.

01:04:33

Oh, well, we got to get this. Well, but it doesn't stop there No, it doesn't you know Then you have this with Chick -fil -a

01:04:42

Chick -fil -a decides that they're gonna stop yeah, they're gonna stop funding The Salvation Army and I forget the other group athletes,

01:04:54

I forget the name of the Christian athletes so they're they're gonna stop funding them and Then and then it's like what is what is the the group say that was pushing it?

01:05:05

Well, that's a good start, but you're not enough now. You have to actually go out and condemn them

01:05:10

That's right and promote So, what do they do they now start giving their money toward a pro

01:05:17

LGBT Organization. Yeah, that's why my wife and I we stopped going there. Yeah Yeah, so what happens?

01:05:25

Um, is it enough? No, it's not enough because you're supporting them But you're not out there saying that this is a right and that's the thing so You know, you're you're not gonna placate this critical theory the critical race theory or now what's just being called critical theory because they they're they're gonna constantly be moving the goalpost and Therefore you can you can never get to a point where You you have it solved because you just keep seeing this move and move and move

01:06:05

Yep Agree with you It's gonna be bad I've been telling people on the radio show don't you know, don't think that the homos are gonna stop

01:06:15

Outside the church door. They're gonna come in the church. They're gonna start Attacking and in the church as well the homosexual community.

01:06:22

They're gonna It's gonna be bad. Chris is gonna fight back. We have right now

01:06:28

If you watched a Democrat National Convention or not convention debates, you mean the clown show, huh?

01:06:35

The clown show. Yeah What you had there is you actually had candidates saying that if someone doesn't have

01:06:45

Doesn't support LGBTQ if a church doesn't support that then they should have their tax -exempt status removed

01:06:54

You have Joe Biden saying that if you if someone doesn't support LGBTQ rights that they should then be put on a terrorist watch list

01:07:05

Now, I don't know if folks may know this or not But back under Barack Obama we had a change of how people get put on the terrorist watch list and You had organizations that used to be doing terrorism outside the country

01:07:20

That were terrorizing America. Mostly it was dealing with things of The dealing with You know people trying to bomb

01:07:30

America or Things like that now What it means to be on the terrorist watch list under Obama was if you are

01:07:39

Against abortion. In other words if you are a supporter of pro -life ministries Any any organization that supported pro -life ministries was put on the terrorist watch list

01:07:50

Because it was a terrorist act to be against a to be against abortion now you have people saying it's a terrorist act could not support and celebrate and LGBTQ yep, and Folks this is where we're going.

01:08:09

This is where it's gonna be heading to this is why we need to get the gospel out there folks

01:08:17

We need to have the Gospel permeating this land that people start repenting of this wickedness and start getting saved

01:08:27

The the politicians will pretend to be Christian if there's if enough people actually are

01:08:32

Christian but Yeah, so we have some people here saying atheist groups get religious tax credit.

01:08:39

Don't they? They they do there are some atheist churches

01:08:46

I think there was one actually, but it had a split within the first year and I think it's closed now

01:08:58

Let's see Jason Manning says something that LGBTQ LGBT community is doing that Angers minorities is liking their so -called fight for equality with the civil rights of the black man's fight back in the 60s

01:09:16

And that's true They when the when the LGBTQ uses civil rights as the argument

01:09:23

They actually water down the argument for that the blacks are arguing for And so Let's see, so if anyone wants to come in ask any questions

01:09:39

Don't know don't know where everyone is tonight. We got Andrew, but he's he's always in here and lets us know when he has questions

01:09:48

So Here's here's a quote for you Matt Because he said do people actually say this and so I'll give you

01:09:57

James Cone in his own words Okay If I ever get you reading

01:10:02

James Cone you you're gonna kill me and go nuts But you

01:10:08

I think you do I mean I'm reading this stuff because this this intersectionality is not going away here's what

01:10:15

James Cone says quote and Certainly the history of the black White relations in this country from Civil War to present

01:10:27

Unmistakably show that as people America has never intended for blacks to be free to this day in The eyes of most white

01:10:39

Americans the black man remains subhuman unquote From from that day till today there

01:10:50

In most whites now, here's the thing I find interesting that It was a majority of whites that freed the black slaves

01:11:00

Yeah, they died doing it. Yeah, we went to war but but it was still there was a bunch of states a bunch of whites that fought for the freedom of blacks

01:11:12

So how how did these people fighting? You know what you think that people the people are the whites?

01:11:20

Need to have reparations for that You Got a good point there.

01:11:27

Yes, we need to argue for no and it so it should be it should be just northern It should be northern whites, right?

01:11:34

Because it was the northern states that fought. Yeah, I don't think I qualify because in my I Think my ancestors were in Louisiana.

01:11:41

They came in from Germany, Louisiana. So I Don't get I won't get any reparations.

01:11:47

You do you do let's let's think about this Dad no, my dad's side was up north in Indiana.

01:11:54

Okay, so I need reparations No, you I'll tell you how you I doubt tell you why you get reparations Matt. Here's why

01:12:00

Because it was the Democrat Party. That was the party of the KKK It was a

01:12:05

Democrat Party that didn't want blacks getting the rights to vote. It was the Republican Party that was formed over the the slavery issue to freeing slaves

01:12:15

And Ending slavery. So therefore we should really do it this way or we should give

01:12:21

I think well, here's what we do Matt This is that I think this is a great solution to reparations All the

01:12:27

Democrats every person who's a who's a you know, a registered Democrat Should pay reparations to African Americans that works.

01:12:36

I like that idea I think that's a great solution since they were the ones that wanted to suppress them and to Oppress them and to enslave them.

01:12:44

They should be the ones to to do that started with the Barack Obama He should start I set the example

01:12:50

Yeah, because he's white Well Yeah, well,

01:12:56

I would argue he's more white than black because remember he had a white mother and a black father So he's half white half black

01:13:02

But and this is an interesting thing and I encourage you to read his own words his own book

01:13:08

And now I forget the name of the book, but it was something to his father But he basically he would grew up by his own words

01:13:17

He said he grew up with his white mother and white grandma grandparents. He grew up in a white neighborhood

01:13:23

His mother when he was about 14 or 15 felt he didn't understand Black oppression he she had to take him to be taught how to be black

01:13:35

Now think about this because their argument is that this is just inane Like this is just part of being

01:13:41

We don't even realize as whites that we have white privilege and that we're racist

01:13:47

But it's something that we don't even recognize supposedly and then but what do you see here? You you end up seeing in this that you have here people that have to Barack Obama had to be taught

01:14:01

How to be black. I mean, that's a crazy thing to think about That he would have to be taught how to you know, so it's not clear that he knew what that was

01:14:15

Right, he didn't know what it meant to be black he had to be taught it Well, if this is something that could be taught then it doesn't have to do with their argument that this is part of whites suppressing and oppressing blacks

01:14:31

Yeah, here we go someone just said humble clay said dreams of my father there's the title of the book So by the way, here's an interesting thing with that book

01:14:40

Matt dreams of my father He was he was the first African -american in on the at the

01:14:47

Harvard Law School Like paper or whatever. I forget that I forget the Yeah Maybe it was he was the first African American to to to get some privilege you know get some status at at Harvard on Harvard Law and So because of that he was commissioned to write a book about how he

01:15:10

Got there how he got to that point to be on the Harvard Law Review I think it was what is called and so he had to write he got paid to write a book about how he got how

01:15:21

He got there. You know what he did instead He wrote a book That was a memoir for an attribute to his father

01:15:32

He he was paid for one thing and chose not to do it and When they when they you know kind of kiss it came to him and like this wasn't what we paid you to do.

01:15:42

Oh You're being racist Yeah, yeah, you know, do you know how he got elected as senator no history there

01:15:56

So Barack Obama was running in the primaries against a very well -known Canada now remember

01:16:02

Barack Obama's job was a Mob organizer, right? He was a commute.

01:16:07

He did community outreaches and would he would organize protests. That was his job He realized that if he really wants to be more effective.

01:16:15

He needed to get a law degree That's why he said in his own book why he went to get the law degree He got the law degree so he could be a better mob organizer.

01:16:23

He goes in and does that He does get into the Harvard Law Review Gets to be

01:16:31

I think he was an adjunct professor at Harvard For a semester or two, but he ended up realizing and he this is what he says in this book

01:16:39

This is why I say his book is is amazing to read because he's pretty open about what he why he did what he did

01:16:45

He recognized that there was a I think it was a mayor up in in Chicago. That was

01:16:50

African American, but he talked He talked like a white man This is what

01:16:56

Barack Obama said and he realized that this guy was going to be elected he was he think it was no one was gonna be able to Unseat him because he had the black vote because they're expected to vote for a black man

01:17:09

But he could speak the white language and therefore he could get the white vote and that he said he realized that since he was white enough in he could he could get a

01:17:21

Senate seat and be there forever and So what he did was he was running for Senate he's running against a very popular

01:17:29

Democrat and So what all of a sudden somehow no one knows how he gets his hands on sealed court records of this guy's divorce and He goes to the guy's house and all of a sudden after that visit

01:17:47

It is announced that the other guy is dropping out of the race and supports Barack Obama So Barack Obama now is running against a very well known

01:17:59

Republican and Someone that that was looking like he was gonna win and then all of a sudden somehow magically his sealed court documents of his divorce ends up in the news and Part of what comes out in there.

01:18:15

He was married to a actress that was on Was it one of the Star Trek's Deep Space Nine, I believe and what came out of that was that this

01:18:25

Republican when he was over in Europe. We used to force his wife to have sex with him in public in bars and There was one of the reasons she was divorcing man.

01:18:35

It's also one of the reasons she wanted it sealed. So her kids never read that But it got unsealed sealed documents got in the hands of the media

01:18:43

No one knows how and then that guy dropped out just before the you know in the middle of the race or toward the end of the race and now

01:18:50

Barack Obama is basically running unopposed. They ended up getting Alan Keyes to come in from He's actually

01:18:56

I think from New York or somewhere, but he wasn't from Chicago He moves in and so he can run against them.

01:19:02

And so that's how he actually got the Senate seat Yeah Yeah So I'm gonna bring

01:19:15

Andrew in just to see if he's got any questions for us tonight Hello Andrew Hey Yeah, not really questions more

01:19:28

Statements I think I'm probably one of the few Australians who actually Kind of stays in touch with sort of this process

01:19:39

It's a very interesting story about Obama I had no idea of that either and I guess

01:19:52

Some of those dirty laundry shall we say to quote say Don Henley we

01:20:00

Wouldn't really want that air either Yeah No, I guess maybe that was pushing him out of it done to push him out of the race because that's what we have

01:20:11

Well here when we had our own Prime ministers stabbing each other in the back.

01:20:20

So we had Kevin Rudd then Julia Gillard, then she got stabbed in the back

01:20:26

That's the kind of hilarious sort of thing like that and she was actually from Wales I think somehow and that was her

01:20:36

That's how she got stabbed in the back yeah So it's kind of interesting

01:20:46

But yeah So someone's asking that yeah, Jason Manning's asking the question

01:20:54

He said wasn't Harvard founded on as an evangelical University and in order to train pastors

01:21:01

Yeah, and what would that be called meth for folks who may not know the term? Where they train pastors

01:21:07

I'm in at the graduate level instead. I give away the word Yeah, okay.

01:21:14

So so Matt. Yeah, I know you've probably experienced this But So at our at our church, right?

01:21:22

We're going through at least some leadership training we're all the guys that are members are

01:21:29

You're basically going through going everyone's going through like an ordination type thing

01:21:35

Right now we're learning all the books of the Bible giving an overview of every book of the Bible and and getting a quiz

01:21:42

And so so we're going on a quiz of different books of the Bible. I'm done with the quiz I'm waiting for everyone else to finish.

01:21:48

I'm sitting with my pastor and I'm just I'm talking and I Wanted to say the question that that came up was

01:21:56

What does the word shema mean? you know because from the the shema from Deuteronomy 6 and You see you have different choices.

01:22:07

And So I start talking about that and I was telling them like with a Jewish view of that passage But I couldn't remember to recite the passage

01:22:17

I Didn't want to start at the beginning because if I started with the first word, you know

01:22:22

The Hebrew is Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad. If I start with that first word

01:22:28

I'm giving away whether it's C or or peace or here or I figure what the other one was

01:22:37

Obey I think and so I didn't want to give away what the word was But I couldn't remember what the passage was if I started in the middle

01:22:47

And all of a sudden I I forgot that like the guys around me and so I couldn't remember it

01:22:53

I'm trying to remember it. So I just I just started right at the beginning and I started with hero is Thanks But I couldn't remember the passage if I started in the middle

01:23:07

Yeah, that's normal. I had to start at the beginning which gave away the word So Jason Manning says wow how how

01:23:14

Harvard has fallen Yeah, so All right.

01:23:21

Well, um Well, we could do one of two things Matt since no one's come in with any questions We could either end early or I could give you some more quotes of James Cone until you want to like research this stuff and realize that you need to do this for You know to understand this to deal with intersectionality

01:23:40

Yeah, I'm so buried with so many things right now that There's a clog in the drain.

01:23:45

Not much is getting done. Oh No, we need you researching intersectionality and and social justice, you know who cares about NAR I'll give you this.

01:23:57

I would argue Matt that social justice will probably be a greater threat to the

01:24:04

American Church then an AR will be might be

01:24:10

Couldn't be yeah, it could be you know, it's there's a there's a lot of problems.

01:24:16

There's so much I mean obviously to me. It's obvious that Satan's alive and well, he's working hard to destroy the

01:24:22

Christian faith but You know tell you I feel like Sisyphus pushing a rock uphill and it always falls back.

01:24:31

You never get up there There's so much heresy, you know, yeah, so okay we got a question that's

01:24:44

All right, so here's a question Matt from tulip doctrines of grace question

01:24:50

Where do you guys stand on replacement theology and Christian? Reconstructionism ready go

01:24:58

I've got a replace replacement theology with the more gracious biblical view that Just says that God's not done with Israel yet because he's a

01:25:07

God of covenant not a God of dispensation No, just no, you know, I take a shot anything it but replacement theology deals with the idea that God is done with the church

01:25:16

I mean tired done with Israel. So he really so he's

01:25:24

He's gonna work differently now And so the church is what has replaced

01:25:30

Israel, but that's not true God's not done with Israel yet. Not covenantally. He's not done so I Reject that reject a replacement theology

01:25:41

Yeah, so, you know, I think I think that a lot of people Mistakenly would say that there's two views

01:25:49

I've seen where people mistakenly define replacement theology One is where they'll say that the covenant theology view is that That argue that all people uphold to covenant theology believe that the church replaced

01:26:09

Israel So, let me start with that one. Do you your covenant theologian?

01:26:16

Do you believe that the church? Replaced Israel. No okay, and I Think that I'm gonna argue and I'm not a covenant theologian.

01:26:27

I'm gonna argue that That people who make that claim do not understand covenant theology so Matt what is the

01:26:38

The view in covenant theology between the relationship between Israel and the church well, we would just say that God works covenantally with all those people

01:26:48

Israel and The people the church the elect invisible church and so the relationship is that God has simply said he's not done with Israel yet All Israel will be saved

01:26:59

Romans 1125 and it's just not done yet. So, you know some I know that there's some dispensationalists who hold to the the same view that some covenantalists do and some

01:27:10

Covenantalists all the same view that dispensationalists do in regard to the relationship with the church and Israel My position is simply that the church has replaced

01:27:20

Israel in some degree but not in all it definitely has replaced the church or the

01:27:27

Israel in the proclamation of the true Messiah, but It's not replaced the church the

01:27:32

Israel covenantally because God He just hasn't He's not done with them yet.

01:27:40

Well any covenant theology Overall, they would hold to a view that there is one people of God with two administrations so they would you'd hear people say that the that Israel is

01:27:54

The church of the Old Testament in the Old Testament and the church is Israel in the new and so they would look at this as the same the one group of people but that with two

01:28:07

Administrations and so for many covenant theologians, they wouldn't see it that much of they wouldn't see the distinction

01:28:14

Between those two groups that one replaces the other now, there's some who would also argue the replacement theology

01:28:20

I think falsely against dispensationalists because some will say that there's a there are groups in the dispensational camp that will say that God is done with Israel and And so where you're gonna see with their with this hyper dispensationalism

01:28:35

They'll are actually gonna say to a point where they say God's done with Israel and you shouldn't even be reading the

01:28:41

Old Testament You shouldn't read the Gospels because that was to Jews. You should only be reading the work the works of Paul Yeah, and like Revelation and John, you know, so it's only this stuff written to Gentiles because now we're of the

01:28:56

Gentiles and now that the church has completely replaced Israel and God's done with them again, now

01:29:02

I'm gonna argue from the dispensational perspective and say that's not the dispensational view that's a a false and hyper view

01:29:11

That's radically wrong. I'll let Matt as the covenant theologian. No, no, I'm just gonna agree with you.

01:29:17

You're right It's not the proper position you're absolutely correct. Okay. Do you want to explain

01:29:23

Christian? Reconstructionism, I don't really know what that much is too much.

01:29:28

I've never really had to dealt with it too much So I'll not go too far into it Okay, let's let's see.

01:29:35

So you're telling me we're not gonna find it on karma. I Bet no Might be there

01:29:43

There's probably an article on Carmen you actually here we go. Oh, this is brilliant on karm

01:29:48

Christian Christian Reconstructionism theonomy Who wrote it? Oh, that's great.

01:29:54

Let's see. This was written by all that. We're gonna do one better Let's just share the screen because that'd be way better to figure it before you reveal who wrote it and see

01:30:06

There we go, so if you're looking on the screen here it is It is

01:30:12

Let's get rid of that and it is Christian reconstruction ism theonomy

01:30:17

Christian reconstruction ism also known as theonomy rule rule of God's law

01:30:22

Dominion theology So we have some let's scroll down and see who wrote it the big reveal.

01:30:29

Oh, look at that is it is written by one Mr. Matt slick You Know I've written stuff over the years and I forget even write things

01:30:40

I have a list of questions I have to answer and what I have to do before I answer any of them

01:30:45

I have to go make sure I haven't already answered it because I can't remember at all I'm trying to see if we could figure out if there's a a a date on here that we could find out when you

01:30:56

Years ago. Oh So Matt would you like me to read to you what you wrote

01:31:06

I'll just I'll just go down to the teaching here so Christian reconstruction ism also known as theonomy is a

01:31:14

Highly controversial movement within some conservative Christian circles. It maintains that the world should be brought under For reconstructed the

01:31:26

Lord Jesus Christ in all areas social moral political judicial military family art education music, etc

01:31:37

Christian reconstruction ism Advocates the restoration of the Old Testament civil and moral laws in order to reconstruct present

01:31:46

American society into an Old Testament type Mosaic form and that the three main areas of society family church government

01:31:56

Should all be biblically modeled the Bible being the sole standard the world includes severe

01:32:03

Punishments for lawbreakers some Christian Reconstructionists would advocate death for adulterers abortionists idolaters murderers

01:32:12

Homosexuals rapists, etc. So that's a pretty good article written by some some guy that Yeah, as you're reading

01:32:20

I'm going oh, that's right. I remember yeah, that's right. That's right. Yep Now, you know look the reality is you've written so many articles that karm over the years

01:32:31

I mean, it's there's so much out there that after What's what's karm on 25 years now before it's on its 25th years.

01:32:42

It's already 24 years old Okay, so yeah again we'll go we'll cut you a break maybe you don't remember every article you've written over that It's the fact that you're 62 years old.

01:32:53

And you know, I mean, I'll be 63 in like three or four days. Yeah it's just catching up to you

01:33:02

That's why I'm just beat today it's been a rough day a lot of things but but yeah, it's like man

01:33:10

Like I said, I have to go through did I write this already and more and more I'm finding out Yeah, I have written on this already and some that I already know

01:33:17

I have but you know, I've written I don't know thousands of articles. I just can't remember them all Now here's here's the thing

01:33:23

Matt with with this that for folks that do want to talk about this when you talk to someone

01:33:30

That is in believing this in the theonomy. There is a fallacy that sometimes you hear people do

01:33:37

The way they'll do this is they'll say well Matt you believe in God's law, don't you?

01:33:43

Yeah, then you're a theonomist because that's theonomy Now law.

01:33:49

Yeah. Theonomy is God's law but is theonomy and Theonomist are they the same so the belief in God's law and a theological system known as theonomy

01:34:03

Are they the same thing? No, they're not That's just equivocation.

01:34:09

They're not clarifying what their terms mean and stuff like that But no, you can have people be being with it like dispensationalism

01:34:15

You define it in one way and if you don't and they could say I'm a covenant list not dispensationalist You could define it.

01:34:21

Let's see Maybe we could do that right now Make me make it so that I'm a dispensationalist that God works differently in different times.

01:34:29

Yeah, I would agree with that Oh dispensationalist When you believe there's a future for Israel, I believe there's a future for Israel dispensationalist

01:34:37

Dispensational but it's also but not as common within covenantalism. That's true. So therefore

01:34:43

I guess I'm a dispensationalist covenantalist You know, but what you end up seeing is people that when that argument is a fallacy of equivocation because they're using the word theonomy, which means

01:34:54

God's law and there they created a theological system that they call theonomy and So they're equivocating those two words, but they have two different meanings for them and Because you believe in God's law does not mean you believe in the theological system

01:35:11

They're they're different and and and that's something that gets people because they go. Well, you believe in God's law, don't you?

01:35:17

Yes, well, you're a theonomist then and they go. Oh, okay. I didn't know that Look at this

01:35:25

Will you have a happy birthday Matt? On Thanks, so fifth

01:35:34

Yeah, so I thought was Sunday, but it'll be Monday. Yeah, you know

01:35:40

Your birthday has a way of bringing back a very black

01:35:47

Memory to me black ice that is oh, yeah It's true for my 60th birthday everybody came out we had a 60th birthday party a lot of fun

01:36:01

Driving home one night and what I'm gonna hear your version of it. I'm not sure how you say it Well, okay.

01:36:07

So so we went to we went to the party which was at Chad Pruden Moore's Church if I remember correctly

01:36:13

I know it was a different church, but but it was a lot of fun that we had a lot of fun there Who's it? I forget. Who's it?

01:36:18

Who's I forget? I thought it's Chad's church But okay, so we we're at the at the church. We're downstairs

01:36:25

We go to leave and it had gotten I mean while we're in in the church it was raining and froze and We had we did have a dilemma

01:36:35

Matt if you remember correctly week we drove out there because we were bringing stuff to set up the the room and so we kept going back and forth between your house and Nathan's house and Then what ended up happening was when we went to leave we realized that because people were coming

01:36:54

Like I think you drove me over and then I stayed there with Yim and we were setting some things up while you went and got your wife

01:37:02

And we so we did these we had several trips and people came over.

01:37:07

But then when we went to leave we realized You didn't have enough room in the car for all the people you actually brought over and Your car was full

01:37:17

I think I Think that all the cars were kind of full. We had to split

01:37:23

Yemen my wife and I up into two separate cars yeah, so I You have a friend that is very well trained

01:37:33

But he's writing in driving. He's a he's a border patrol agent and It was icy and or retired.

01:37:40

I should say now and so what ended up happening was I I Decided I'd suggest that she takes a ride with David because Dave is gonna be the safest driver.

01:37:50

Yeah, I went with Luke and I Drive in with my wife.

01:37:56

Yep So three different separate cars and everybody staying at my house and one thing at my house. That's right

01:38:01

Everyone was staying at your house So we had four cars all together that we were going home in and part of the problem was is that we had to take

01:38:07

We brought stuff to the the church in in dro in separate trips but we were trying to take it all home in one so your backseat was all filled and So the interesting thing was is

01:38:19

I'm I'm with Luke and Luke all of a sudden just starts sliding Yeah, and I mean he's just and and I I'm I'm literally

01:38:28

Literally slid from the right lane all the way to the left and how he's sliding back

01:38:35

Toward the right and we're only what like like quarter of a mile to the exit going downhill and we're just we're kind of just sliding in and out and We're just gonna and I'm just sitting there.

01:38:48

I'm literally I watched Luke Miss I mean just barely Slide past three cars didn't hit any of them and just as I'm like,

01:38:57

I like Dave the same thing Yeah, Dave had the same thing. I heard and so he never hit anybody.

01:39:03

I'm sitting there thinking like Like as we're just like Luke was just getting control the car again

01:39:11

I can see the exit ramp and I'm like, I think we're gonna make I'm like This is just great and all of a sudden in the corner of my eye

01:39:18

I see a car come in from the right and it was like slow motion like Where there's no way we're gonna avoid this and boom

01:39:26

Hits the car this other vehicle kept going and shoots off Luke gets control the car pulls over to the side of the road

01:39:34

We like the car bangs into another car bangs into another car

01:39:40

Yeah, and I didn't see that part because Luke pulled over right away. We went we checked the damage

01:39:46

You know, we both looked to each other and I'm like, are you okay, man? He's like, yeah, are you okay, man? Yeah, and then

01:39:52

Luke looks at me and goes I think that was Matt slick that hit us Wait, what?

01:39:58

He's like, okay, let's not say anything in case it was We start driving and we're now we're like Well, we were just hundreds yards now from the exit and I see my wife standing outside with Dave outside of his car

01:40:16

And I look pull over the like David and my wife or you know must got hit.

01:40:21

So he pulls over and We walk over and Dave goes Matt's like hit me

01:40:30

Yep From my perspective with the officer yeah, so what happened was we're coming up and everybody was ahead of me and we're coming up and I see the brake lights everywhere, so I'd let up off the gas and just started coasting down because if you hit the brakes, you're gonna start spinning and I could see cars sliding.

01:40:54

So I knew it hit black ice So I tapped my brakes super lightly and a car would just fishtail a little bit but you know,

01:41:01

I had control of it and So I see this car it was Luke's car Coming he was coming into my lane a little and I'm coming over into his lane hit him and then went off into another car and hit

01:41:13

Dave Hit all the guys And so we're waiting because the police officer wants to take a report and the problem is

01:41:22

We're like we really just want to go and it's so finally you walked over to the police I was because we said can we go we like, you know, we're all hit by the same guy and we know who he is

01:41:30

It's not Because there were I think there were like 20 cars in the accident

01:41:38

Yeah, there was just quite a few. Yeah, some were turned around some were kind of crunch It really and saying it was coming up over that hill.

01:41:44

That's when they hit the black ice so you're already going fast and Yeah It was just one of those things and there was a one there was a van that lost its door like they must have opened

01:41:52

The door and someone lost control and took off a door So the officer was dealing with more of the people that were but another accident happened while we were waiting there

01:42:00

Yes, that's right right in front of you with the officer and so eventually you walked up to the officer and you're just like Can we get going because like I I I hit all these guys they're staying at my house and the officer just looked at you

01:42:14

It said what? You're like, yeah, I mean, they're the friends of mine. I you know,

01:42:19

I hit each one of them, but you know They're all staying at my house. They're visiting me for my birthday

01:42:25

You know, he was like wait you hit all the cars of guys staying in your house. He's like, yeah

01:42:31

Yeah, you know I do my I treat my friends right? Confirming it and we go.

01:42:39

Yeah, he goes. Okay. So yeah, and that was it. Oh All right. So we have another question here

01:42:45

Matt If I can I gotta scroll up and find where it is All right.

01:42:51

Here you go. Ethan asks the question Matt. Can you explain a mill? Our millennial ism is the position that the literal thousand -year view is not correct

01:43:03

But that the term thousand is figurative and that the

01:43:09

Millennial Kingdom has existed since Christ was here on earth in that during that time Satan was bound and Some all -millennial lists hold that Satan's been let loose

01:43:21

Recently relatively recently in history world wars and famines earthquakes all over the place and That at the return of Christ will be the consummation of the ages and that's the position

01:43:32

I hold Is that we're in the millennial reign of Christ now to figurative thousand not a literal thousand

01:43:39

You know an interesting thing with the amillennial view so many will turn to someone like Augustine to Say that, you know to see the teachings of amillennial ism and and some of the views however an interesting thing with Augustine is

01:43:58

There's many dispensationalists that turn to Augustine as well Because the thing that was interesting with Augustine is he did believe in a literal thousand years

01:44:08

He just thought we were in it And so many of the views that you see of the way that like the dispensationalist would look with a literal thousand years they could look to Augustine, but as well an amillennial can look to Augustine because Like after a thousand

01:44:24

AD. I want to say Pope Innocence, but I can't remember if that was the Pope That's where you saw the shift from a literal to a thousand because well, where was

01:44:33

Christ they thought he would literally come in a thousand AD and it went and got you know passed and Kind of like the all the people that thought he was coming in 2000, right?

01:44:40

but you know when that passed they started to read Augustine and and see that Basically, if you take it as a figurative

01:44:49

Then you could argue this all the same things that Augustine was arguing for the the Millennium Just see it as a figurative period of time and so it's kind of interesting that both camps go back to Augustine Because you know

01:45:05

This is one of the things and you you have a quote that's very good for folks to remember My church father can beat up your church father

01:45:13

Why do you say that why can both groups look at a guy like Augustine and both find their theological system rooted there

01:45:22

Because a church father say all kinds of things that contradict themselves they contradict each other and so You know my church father can beat up your church father, which means you can find for church fathers basically to say most anything

01:45:34

They're not that cattywampus all over the place, but that's basically the idea So there's a lot of good, you know, there's good positions argumentations and lots of groups and lots of things.

01:45:44

But That's why I said about the church fathers Catholics use them a lot, but I don't they contradict each other

01:45:54

So So there you go. All right. Well, I don't know where everybody was tonight

01:46:00

No one came in with questions. So folks We're here to answer your questions.

01:46:06

Not just to trigger Matt with you know, black liberation theology Yeah, I'm too tired tonight.

01:46:12

It's just yeah a lot going on, but sorry. I'm just kind of a lump on a log tonight

01:46:19

Yeah, that's right, I'm trying to see if I could find one last quote Let's see now this one this this last quote

01:46:35

I'll give you Matt is kind of an interesting one because What you have with this quote is

01:46:44

You know people would argue, you know when it comes to You know being treated as subhuman

01:46:50

And we have a different group of people who were treated so human in a more recent time period and That would be

01:46:58

What you end up seeing with the Jewish people Asians Yeah, and so What you you have though with the with the

01:47:12

Jews is they were they were exterminated because they're they're you know, they're Judaism and That was it were slaves you'd think that people would be arguing, you know for that James Cone said this and remember this in the 60s

01:47:27

So this was not long after the Holocaust that he writes this but quote it is interesting

01:47:33

That most people do not understand why Jews can hate Germans Why they can why they

01:47:41

Why Can they not understand why black people who have been deliberately and systematically dehumanized?

01:47:51

or murdered by the structure of this society Hate white people unquote.

01:47:58

No, there's a difference there The the Jews hated the Germans, but you know that didn't that actually lasted a generation

01:48:07

And so What you end up seeing there is you have

01:48:15

You know nowadays you don't see that same hatred for Jews for the Germans I mean,

01:48:20

I actually have a German son -in -law now and actually not only do I have a German son -in -law

01:48:26

But Matt do you my daughter do you and her initials are? Now that she got married our

01:48:33

SS When I realize that German dramatic,

01:48:39

I know I don't think he does but I should ask him but but what you end up seeing there is

01:48:44

That you don't have that hatred for the Jews for the Germans anymore. That hatred was for Specific people that did a specific thing to specific people

01:48:55

Once those people passed on There wasn't the hatred that hatred wasn't passed on from generation to generation to generation

01:49:04

So you don't see that hatred today and and you mean my parents lived during that time okay, and so You were one generation removed and the hatreds already gone.

01:49:18

So that would be the argument I'd have with this He's saying well look people understand that two Jews would have hatred for the

01:49:24

Germans And he's speaking of the Jews who lived through that at that time

01:49:29

But you see now one generation after what James Cone doesn't realize is that hatred isn't there and so But he's still appealing to a hatred that there's no justification for because he's saying the hatred is for a system a structure of society that Dehumanizes.

01:49:47

Well, no that that that was the case, but that case doesn't continue It's done away with Yeah, you might be pockets of it here and there but there's pockets of of it of all kinds of things against Asians.

01:50:02

They were Mistreated American Indians. They were they were badly mistreated the formation of this country for years

01:50:11

Everybody was whites were pretty bad in a lot of areas But doesn't mean all whites are bad and a lot of whites risked their lives to save people

01:50:20

Well, here's the thing. So there's many whites who risked their life to to end slavery

01:50:27

Blacks that were slaves and and you know, try to get them to help them to escape and things like that But you know what, you know, it doesn't get talked about You know how after after the whites came in and captured many of the

01:50:40

Africans that were on the coastal Do you know how they got the the blacks that were more inland?

01:50:46

Oh, they had blacks go chase them. That's right What you end up seeing is that the majority of slaves were captured by black tribes that were working with white slavers

01:50:57

So the white slavers wouldn't go after their folks, but they would go and get slaves for the whites

01:51:04

So they would often get the the dregs of society and get rid of them. Yeah and so the question then becomes so who do who do we blame for the the the the

01:51:16

Racism the racist slavery that we had do can we blame only whites? No, you can't because there were there were black or Africans that were making money and and getting privileged by kidnapping they were the ones that were doing the kidnapping at that point and bringing them and enslaving them and The whites paid them

01:51:41

Yeah, so I mean the whites get got to a point where white the white ships would come in and they would already have a whole bunch of Africans already in cages waiting

01:51:51

So so this is the thing that people With these issues. They think it's so clear -cut and it's not

01:51:59

These things are not the way so many people want to lay it out. And that's the thing.

01:52:04

It's you know These issues are complex. These is it's like when people say So many people were killed by religious wars

01:52:13

You know, there's so many other factors that go into those wars You can't just say oh it's because of this because there's other factors in it you you have, you know political things going on you have

01:52:27

Different, you know, depending on the wars you have different tribal things that may have nothing to do with the religion

01:52:32

But they use that I mean, there's so much there so It's not as clear -cut as people like to say

01:52:40

So with that, I guess we'll close out. I Think that we're gonna be coming into the the holiday season and I know that I'm gonna be having to take a break

01:52:53

Because I will be I'll be doing a little bit of travel toward the end of the year and so I think next next week may be the last of the of the episodes that That we will be addressing or having an

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Apologetics Live, I hope that some of you guys would come in and And ask some questions

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01:53:23

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