Black Hebrew Israelites Kill and White Liberals Give Them Cover

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WRAP Report, we're gonna deal with the shooting that occurred in Jersey City, New Jersey. We're gonna address who are the black

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Hebrew Israelites and is white supremacy the cause of that shooting?

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Now, I know that today's topic is almost a week old, which means since this was black -on -Jewish crime, it's already out of the news and the news doesn't care about it anymore.

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If this was white -on -black crime, especially if it was white police officer -on -black crime, it would still be in the news for the next six months.

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However, that's not the case here. But there is a lot we can learn from this.

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For those who are regular listeners of the WRAP Report and follow me and things

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I've done, you know that we've dealt with this issue before, whether on this podcast or on my Apologetics Live podcast, and I've done some debates with guys that call themselves black

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Hebrew Israelites. We've dealt with those things. We're going to dig into that again today because now we're seeing how this is affecting culture.

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This is now a new stage that we see in this movement, and you're going to see that this is only the beginning.

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So with that, I want to deal with this issue that happened in Jersey City.

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For those who don't know, there was two individuals. I do not want to give their names because I don't feel like highlighting them.

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If anything, we'll highlight those they killed or injured, but two individuals who were part of what is known as the

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Black Hebrew Israelite movement or group. Now I want to define who they are as well, but understand this when we mention this.

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There's some who are gonna get upset because they now go by the name Hebrew Israelite group. They're dropping the word black.

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We're gonna see that that becomes a big issue, but what we do see in this, what

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I want to do is go through what they believe, show where this I think is going, and also

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I want to start with how the media is responding to this. We're gonna end with the question of where we see some of our politicians and the like going with this and who they're blaming.

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So we have two individuals that age 47 and 50.

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They're part of the BHI. I'm just gonna say BHI for short. So they're part of BHI.

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They're following in that. They've had a bunch of things on social media and elsewhere that shows that they're part of this movement.

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They go into a kosher grocery store so that they can shoot up and kill real

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Jews, not fake Jews. That is gonna be important. You're gonna see because this is the big thing they have.

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They have an they in this movement have a real issue with people like myself that are truly

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Jewish, real Hebrews, not fakers. I'm gonna get into that why

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I say that they're fakers in a moment, but they go into this place shooting people.

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Now they left a note behind. I'm gonna let you hear from someone in the media explaining what the note says, but what

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I find interesting is how the media immediately respond to this. When there was a shooting that occurred with at a

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Planned Parenthood, it was the Planned Parenthood or abortion clinic, the media immediately jumped on stating that this person was a

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Christian when in fact he wasn't. There was other shootings where people put out a manifesto and the media was saying that this was done by Christians when the manifesto made it clear that it was not, but the media also with help from Google and others took down the manifesto and wouldn't let you have that up, although some people did grab it before it was taken down, and when you look at that they clearly weren't

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Christian. So there's always a rush to say this is a Christian when they can do that.

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However, when it's someone that's a black Hebrew Israelite, as we're gonna see, they're not in the same rush.

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The media that I heard the day it occurred said they were once involved with black

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Hebrew Israelites. There's some link to black Hebrew Israelites, not that they're followers, not that they're believing in it, because what they're doing is following out the principles of some of the black

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Hebrew Israelite groups. Now, this is not a monolithic group, so when you say black

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Hebrew Israelites, there's a wide spectrum of where people fall on this.

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You have those that we're gonna talk about that are the more extreme and the more dangerous and violent and where I have concern, and then you have others who are not that.

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They're more moderate, they're people that aren't gonna be as racist, but there's gonna be a wide spectrum.

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However, there's some things that they all have in common, and it's problematic to the whole belief system.

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So the belief that they have is gonna be coming out of the fact that they believe that the

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Africans in the African slave trade, those were the people who were the

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Israelites. Now, the argument goes a little bit different from different people, but some will argue that those that were taken to America were all of the tribe of Judah, the tribe of Dan, I think, is in Jamaica.

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Basically, as the slave trade occurred, they were taken by tribes to different places. Logically, maybe you see a problem with that because, as I do, slave traders, they don't care what your background is.

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They're kidnapping you and taking you to be a slave. In fact, for folks who don't know the history, most of the slaves were kidnapped by blacks, by other

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Africans, and then sold to whites, okay, and so they did that.

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They weren't concerned about keeping them together by their ethnicity, tribe, or anything like that.

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You end up seeing that they were just thrown together into ships and shipped wherever, and the argument that they were kept together by tribe is really just not logical, especially if you think about the fact that, so you have two brothers, one's kidnapped and the other isn't, so the one that was kidnapped and brought to America is a

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Jew from Judah? What if one is taken to Judah and the other is taken to, you know, or taken to America, the other to Jamaica?

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Does that mean one brother was from Dan and one from Judah? I mean, they have the same parents, right? So, I mean, logically, it doesn't work.

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However, this is where they get their whole teaching from, and it is one verse in Deuteronomy 28, 68, and almost everyone that holds to BHI will hold to this.

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They see this as a prophecy. One of the things I will always ask someone that's a BHI person is, can you trace your genealogy back?

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That is how we know a genealogy. It's father to father to father to father, and so on.

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So, I would say I'm a Levite because the line can be traced back from my family all the way back to Levi, which would go back to Abraham.

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That's how you do a genealogy. So, who are the Israelites? Well, the Israelites are those that are of the family of Israel, okay?

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You have Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Jacob is renamed called Israel, and he has 12 sons.

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They each are the 12 tribes of Israel. As I mentioned, Judah, Dan, Levi, there's others, and you have the tribes of Israel, and what you end up seeing here is that they're going to claim that those that were in the

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African slave trade, it was prophesied that they would actually be the people who were enslaved, and the argument that they tried to use is to say that basically it's scripture prophesied of this, and I want to read to you in Deuteronomy 28 .68,

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and I'm gonna break this down. I've dealt with this in length in different podcasts and debates.

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I'm gonna link all that in the show notes so you can go if you want to research more and see this in more detail, but they take this verse, and I'm gonna read this in the

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King James for a reason, because this is the one that they use, and they will, not all, but majority of them will only use the

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King James, and so I will use the King James for this. It says,

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And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships.

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By the way whereof I spake unto thee, thou shalt see it no more again.

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And there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondsmen and bondwomen, and no man will buy you.

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And the argument they have here is the word ship. They see the word ship as literal. That's the only thing they see literal in this entire passage.

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Egypt, they say, means slavery. It doesn't mean Egypt, so they'll say that this is them being sold into slavery by ship, and they'll argue that there's no time in history ever where the

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Israelites went into slavery by ship. Now here's the thing you have to notice with this.

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First off, it says Egypt, so if the ship is literal, Egypt would have to be literal, but you also see that they sold themselves unto their enemies, but notice no one bought them.

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They were sold, and no one paid for them. In other words, they sold themselves. Now this is what you would do when you were trying to make do.

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You'd go to a foreign land. If your nation is invaded, you'd go to a foreign land. You're going to sell yourself as a slave so you can survive, and that is what we end up seeing did happen in the

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Assyrian and Babylonian attacks. When they came into Israel, the oppression that they gave and the captivity that they had, many

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Jews fled. The northern tribe, when the Assyrians came in, fled to the southern tribes, some all the way down to Egypt, and when the

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Babylonians came in, the southern tribes, they fled as well to Egypt, and you could look at Isaiah 52 and the first couple of verses because that gives us basically an explanation of that very thing happening, and it states in there,

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I'm going to start in verse four, "...for thus says the Lord, ye have sold yourselves for naught, and ye shall be redeemed without money.

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For thus says the Lord God, my people went down a fortime into Egypt to sojourn there, and the

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Assyrians oppressed them without cause." And so here you have another reference to the same event.

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So they would argue, oh no, the word ship means they had to come by ship. Now the argument is that, yes, you can go from Israel to Egypt by land.

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That is true, you can. It's quicker though by ship, depending where you are. And so the argument that they try to make is that the

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Israelites would never have gone by ship. Only the African slave trades would have sold themselves.

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Oh wait, there's a problem, isn't there? You see, they didn't sell themselves. They were sold. There were buyers for those slaves.

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So the verse is not a prophecy of the African slave trade. As we see in Isaiah 52, what

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Deuteronomy is, is a prophecy of what did happen to the Israelites when the Assyrians came in and enslaved them or took them into captivity.

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That's what it refers to. So what you see with BHI is they're going to argue that they're the only ones in this position that that verse in Deuteronomy could possibly talk about.

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The problem with it is that they're going to take that out of its context. They're going to take some things literal when it benefits them, some things, everything else figurative when it doesn't.

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Because Egypt means Egypt. I mean, it's clear from the context.

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Why? Because he's talking about a land that they would see no more. And the argument that you end up seeing here is that they want to take one word literal, everything else figurative, because they want to say this proves they are the

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Israelites. Can they show their genealogy? No, they cannot do that. So they can't prove that they're actual

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Israelites, but they just assume it. And then what they do is they build a hatred specifically toward real

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Israelites, and then they build a hatred toward whites altogether. And that's what

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I find so interesting in the way that the media responds to this. I want to play you how the media ended up responding to this, and I'm going to play you actual clips of BHI members, and what their real views are, and what they think about this stuff.

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We're going to be there for about two weeks, so we're going to get to see a lot of things. I want to play now what the media had to say because one of the things

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I already mentioned, the media had a hard time saying these people actually were people that practiced, believed what

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BHI does. But let's listen to this report from the media because what you're going to hear in this is someone who is going to have a hard time mentioning that they're black, but you're also going to hear them say what was in that truck that they rented, and you're going to hear what is the letter that they left behind.

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New York Post is reporting that both attackers were adherents to the black fringe religious group called the

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Black Hebrew Israelites. It's a religious movement that's been labeled a hate group. Sources also telling the

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Post the shooters left behind a handwritten note inside a stolen U -Haul van that said, quote, I do this because my creator makes me do this, and I hate who he hates.

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Okay, so do you see what you end up hearing there? They're saying that they left this note, they hate who he hates.

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God's making them do this. Well, this is not fringe. I just want to let you know that if you understand this group, and I'm going to prove this out to you throughout this podcast, this is not a fringe belief.

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This is not something that you're just saying, oh, come on, these guys are making up. Someone probably put that letter there.

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I'm going to play folks in their own words. But what you end up seeing is that you have people who are putting this out there as if this isn't really what they believe.

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They really, you know, maybe they're just crazy that they would do this. But first thing I want to focus on is, listen to the way that reporter said that.

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Let's play this again. To the black fringe religious group called the black

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Hebrew Israelites. Do you notice how he had trouble with that? He had trouble. I mean, just listen.

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To the black fringe religious group called the black... So you see, the black...

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He has trouble with it because he doesn't want to say their black group. It's not a black religious group.

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He wants to argue that they're just the black Hebrew Israelites. The argument that some have been making in the media is this is actually a

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Jewish sect. They're not. They're not Jewish. They're actually a mixture of...

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They take some Judaism, some Christianity. Many of them will deny the deity of Christ.

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There's a lot of things that they'll use in the New Testament when it's convenient. But what you end up seeing is this is a black group.

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This is a black religious group. It really is. So he has trouble saying that and wants to say they're just some fringe group.

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Listen. To the black fringe... So the black fringe, right? The black fringe.

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The fringe religious group called... See, he didn't want to say black, but he did.

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It's a religious... A fringe religious group. See, this is the problem. The fact that these folks get cover because of their racism...

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And yes, I just said that. They are racist and I will prove that in this episode.

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But the fact that this group is racist and the media covers it up, this will continue.

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It only empowers them to do more. Now, this is... I'm gonna play clips so you can hear right from them.

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And I really... It took a lot of time to go through these clips, listen to this stuff, edit this out.

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These are different conversations with different people that I have had. I've actually... You'll hear me in some of them.

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I'm the one speaking. So this is not something that you end up realizing that is just on we grabbed from the internet.

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No, this is places where I've been. And by the way, what I did is I grabbed their recordings. Why? Because a lot of the things that they said, you hear in their video after we left, is the worst part.

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But this is... If you want to know whether they're a racist type of group or not, they view that all whites are cursed.

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And just listen to what they say right here in this clip. Okay, so now,

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I'm gonna always have to... When I play these clips, it's hard to hear because one of the things you see with the black

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Hebrew Israelites, they're always shouting all over each other. So it's hard to get good audio. We're out on the street.

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And the other thing is, I should warn, I've tried to leap out as best I can all the found language.

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And you're gonna see there was a ton of it. But I've tried to bleep it out. I can't promise that I get it all.

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But here, what do you see? They're saying that being white is a curse. That we have leprosy.

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And that's what makes us white. This shows a problem they have because it shows that they don't even understand what leprosy was and is.

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It's an actual disease and not all whites have leprosy. In fact, you know, you could have melanin in your skin and have leprosy.

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It's a disease. They view it as a curse. They view leprosy as a curse that all whites have because we have white skin and that proves that we are cursed.

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Okay, so this is the view you're gonna see. They believe all whites are cursed. Leprosy was a disease that would affect the nervous system.

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And so people wouldn't feel things. People thought that our fingers would fall off when you have leprosy.

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What it actually is, is people would rub off their their fingers or things, noses, ears, because they wouldn't feel anything.

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And they would use their fingers and be doing things and not realize because they don't feel pain.

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So they weren't feeling the pain that would get them to say, hey, you're damaging yourself.

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You got to stop. They don't recognize that. And so what you end up seeing is leprosy would cause blotches of white skin.

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And that was one of the identifying marks. They take that to say if you're white, if you have white all over your body, you're cursed.

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So they believe that we're cursed. This is not what you're gonna say, oh yeah, this is just a minor view.

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Let me let them tell you what they think of whites. Now you see this is going right along with what you saw in that letter left in the

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U -Haul. You have people saying that they think that this is what the Scriptures say. What you find with this group and the full audio that these guys had of this, there's just it's a whole bunch of taking one verse out of its context.

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Like I mentioned with Deuteronomy 28, they take one word. That's all they want.

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They want one word. So that's good enough for them. And they build everything off of taking things out of context.

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And then they say, well, the Scriptures say it. And I went on, we don't have time to play the whole clip, but I went on to ask them, give me the verse that says all whites are racist.

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And they couldn't come up with it. They would cherry pick a little bit here and there, but they wouldn't read anything in its context.

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Because when they would, every single time, it was not saying what they claimed it said. In fact, they got upset with me for wanting to read the

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Bible like a novel, you know, verse by verse. Now the argument they make is out of Isaiah.

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They say, well, in Isaiah it says we should read the Bible here a little, there a little. The irony is, if you actually look that verse up in Isaiah, it says line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little.

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So even that verse, they take out of its context, and they don't realize you're supposed to go line upon line, precept upon precept.

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They just like the here a little, there a little. So not only do they take that out of context, the irony is, is if they actually read it, it's actually a judgment.

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So yeah, they shouldn't be using that. But do you notice how they're arguing for a racism?

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You're gonna hear these guys constantly calling whites devils. Now how are you gonna sit here and say you can get along with this, and say that this is just a minor view of Judaism?

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This is not part of Judaism, period. This is not part of Christianity, period.

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This is a racist group that calls themselves Israelites because it are trying to claim some authority, claim some position.

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This is no different than any other group. The Mormons do it. The Catholic Church does it. They all try to argue that they're somehow tied to Israel.

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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints tries to argue that they're the ten lost tribes, and that that's who started basically the writings of Mormon, the

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Book of Mormon here in America. They argue that the church came over here, the lost tribes came over here.

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It is an interesting thing because there is a tie between Hebrew Israelites and Mormonism because both of them think that the lost tribes came to America through the

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Mayans. Really kind of interesting. I don't have time to get into all that, but I'll give you some links.

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You can listen to more details that we've dealt with on different podcasts because the

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Mayans would have been Chinese. We know that from two different ways. One, the language. A lot of the words are also

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Chinese words. They're in Chinese root. The other thing is that genetically we see that the Mayans have

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Mongolian spots, something that is genetically true of Asians. My kids had those spots when they were born because they are half

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Asian, and so you see this with Asian families. That is one of the signs genetically that they are

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Mongolian or Asian, so they weren't Israeli. What you end up seeing is,

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I want you to see the racism. What ended up happening is one of the guys that was there with me that day in Cleveland, Ricky Ganz, he does a podcast called

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G220, and he ended up on there asking him, saying, hey, why don't you come on my show?

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I've asked you to come on my show. Why don't you come on my show? Listen to why they won't come on his show.

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Okay, so he says there that if he goes on Ricky's show, they're gonna be arrested for saying what they believe.

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So this tells you something. They know what they believe is not very fitting for the airwaves.

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They know that this is not something that should be aired. They know what they're saying is hate speech.

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They know that. That's why they don't want to come on. You're hearing how they refer to all of us. White devils.

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We're just devils. How many times have you heard the word devil? Well, you're gonna hear it a lot more, and you're gonna hear far worse coming from these guys and and some of the others, but you end up seeing this is the view.

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They want to kill whites. I will show that later. This is a view that is being indoctrinated into these guys, and they are going to be violent.

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Why? You'll hear this in their speech, how agitated they are, just because we dare to ask them to support their claims but they have no love for America, and I want you to understand this because this is what they think about America.

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Okay, so you hear that? America is going down, and you white people are going into slavery.

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This is what they want. They want to reverse what occurred 200 years ago.

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They want whites as slaves. Now, is that gonna solve racism? No, it's not, because reverse racism is still racism.

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Now, for people who want to argue this is just this is not really about race, listen to what they're saying.

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They want to enslave whites, and what we're gonna start to see is some of these extreme groups are gonna start first, but this is the view that they have.

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They are going to try to create something that will provoke this and cause this to come about because their goal, what they think the scriptures say, is that they will rise and they will enslave whites.

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Now, it's interesting because they would say slavery is wrong, and yet what is it they desire?

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Slavery. They want slavery, and they also want America to go down. They say

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America's going down, and they actually are gonna chant here in this next clip, you're gonna hear them chanting, death to America.

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Listen to this. Okay, so a lot of bleeping out.

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Now, this is when, at this point, we were walking away, so this is what they're saying when we're not standing in front of them.

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Okay, you get to hear what they really think, and one of the reasons I think they were a little bit better with their language when we were there is

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I called one of their guys out for his foul language. When he claimed that they are Christian, they claim they're

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Israelites that are following properly, and they're following the Bible, and I pointed out, well, the

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Bible says you shouldn't use foul language, and then they started trying to behave themselves a bit, but once we left, you're gonna hear a whole lot of beeping here, but do you hear them chanting, death with America?

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They do not like America. I have a simple solution. Leave. Go somewhere else if you don't like America, but they're not gonna go anywhere else because they want the benefits, and in their mind, they're here to enslave the whites, and that's what they want.

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They want death to America, but I want you to hear this because there are some white liberals out there who don't believe this is actually the belief system that they hold to.

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Listen again to them chant, death to America. Now, do you hear how they're thrilled with the idea that you whites are gonna go into slavery, and you hear the one guy going, that's right!

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He's screaming real loud. He's screaming so as we're walking away, we'd hear that. This is their view.

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They are all about whites that become their slaves. None of these are repeats.

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I'm not playing this same clip over and over again. Well, I did in that case because I said I'd replay it, but this is the different conversations from different people, different times with these guys, and this is a consistent pattern you end up seeing.

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They are looking for whites to be slaves. Listen to this. And the truth is, you white people are the devil, and you're going into slavery, you get that on camera, that's exactly what we're saying to you.

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Okay, so there was one of the guys that had a camera. He wanted to ask them what it is that they believe, and that's what they said.

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That what they believe is that they are going to enslave us whites.

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That's their goal. He didn't say it, and he said you got it on camera. He didn't say it once. This guy says it another time.

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Listen to this. We already repent. You white people are going into slavery, man. That's what it is. You're going into slavery.

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I know, we're slaves in this land. We're slaves in this land. Just know that America is going to be destroyed.

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People are going into slavery, and that's going to be it. Okay, so Nandy, listen to that. America is going to be destroyed.

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He's saying that he's a slave in America right now. That's what he just said. He's a slave in America right now.

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Is that the same slavery that he was expecting for whites? No. See, he's not a slave in America right now, the way he wants the whites to be slaves.

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He's not the slave. He is doing one of two things. He is either using the word slave as a logical fallacy, a fallacy of equivocation, using that word slavery in two different ways, but making it sound like it's the same, because he's saying he's a slave, but he's not a slave.

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He's not a slave the way he's arguing for slavery. No, he's not someone else's property that he could do whatever he wants with, or someone could do whatever they want with him.

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That's what he wants with whites. He wants them to be slaves. You're going to see that in the next couple of clips. This is dangerous talk to have coming from folks, because they view that they have to undermine

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America, and what their real goal is that they want whites as slaves.

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And you leftist, liberal, bleeding hearts who think if we just play nice with folks like this, and basically don't really say that they are a violent group, maybe we can all get along.

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Groups like this have to be called for what they are. They're hateful, they're racist, they're violent, they're deadly.

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They are looking to create wars and to use that for their own agenda.

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And there's a whole lot of them. Now granted, not all BHI believe this.

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There are some that don't, but a majority do. Enough do. And the ones that are out there on the streets, a lot of them are believing this stuff and indoctrinating others with this.

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And what do you end up seeing? You end up seeing in Jersey City, you end up seeing a whole group of people who are now living in fear, because two people lived out this practice.

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Because they practiced what they believed, and the fact is the media is not calling them for what they are.

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You don't see the media rushing to say this group that they're part of needs to be stopped.

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They're trying to disassociate these two with these beliefs. But clearly these people did believe this stuff.

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They were of the groups that are believing this, and they want to wipe out who first? They want to start with the

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Jews first, the real Jews. Because I can tell you from personal experience, these groups hate someone like me.

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Someone that actually is Jewish. Because what we represent is that their whole system is a lie, and they don't like that.

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They don't want that. So they want to silence real Jewish people so that they could claim that they're

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Jewish, they're Israelites. And they're not. But this next two clips that I have for you is the scariest.

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And you're saying, wait a minute, Andrew, what you've played already is pretty scary. Well, you're gonna hear a lot of beeping, because I had a lot of work to beep out some of this.

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But what you end up hearing is what their real views are. It's not just about whites being slaves. As you end up hearing, they want to not only enslave us whites, but they want to take our white women.

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They're gonna be their concubines. Now, I've been involved with groups where you end up hearing they will say that their goal, the end goal, they talk about it being a

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World War III, some of them. They talk about it being a Second Civil War, and the goal, the end goal, is that they will enslave whites and rape our wives, or rape our women, is how

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I've heard it said both ways. Here, you're gonna hear a guy refer to it as, we're gonna make your women our concubines.

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But that's the goal of this. Listen to the hatred in their voices.

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And if you're hearing the clips where you can hear my voice over theirs, I'm not raising my voice.

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In fact, if the video, you see me smiling, because I'm not sitting there and being in, you know, intimidated by them.

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But what you see they do is they go in a group and they feed off each other. They get very vocal, but they can also get very violent.

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And that's why this is becoming more and more dangerous, because what we see in Jersey City is just a living out of this belief system.

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It is the beginning of what I expect to have a lot more to come, because they now are getting enough support, enough recognition, that they can start to practice and carry out what they believe.

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And part of the problem is, I think the media is giving them cover. And that's only going to empower them to do more of this.

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Because of the media, because of their response, we're going to see more of this stuff.

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Listen to this clip as they say that they want to enslave us whites and make our wives their concubines, or make our women.

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I can't wait to get you f***ing f***ers into slavery, man.

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Your f***ing woman going to be a concubine and you f***ing white people going into slavery. You f***ing devils.

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Your devils don't know s***, man. Okay, so we don't know anything. What we should know is that we're going to be their slaves.

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Our white women are going to be their concubines, going to be there for their use.

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This is their view. Now, you might not be able to hear that in that clip, but they end up, there's one of the guys that wanted the race wars to start.

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They talk about race wars, race riots. Listen to this clip, because this clip, it's a little bit clearer.

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This is a separate time that one of the guys had said this. I can't wait till these race riots get to popping, man.

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I swear, Lord, when I get to popping, I'm going to f***ing kill you. You may not have been able to hear that so well, but they can't wait for these race riots to start popping.

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And you hear them all cheer, yeah, that's right. And they end up, what you hear that guy say, if you can hear it, is he said,

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I can't wait to start killing these bleepity bleeps. Okay, this is what they're looking to do.

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They want to create race riots and start killing whites.

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What is it we've been seeing? We've been seeing that behavior, in that we see these riots that are occurring over race issues.

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And what do we see? We see whites being killed, and the media gives them cover. And the way they're giving them cover is really sickening.

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We greatly appreciate that. Now here's the thing that you end up seeing. We had a representative, and I'm going to say up front

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I may not pronounce her name properly, but there was a representative, Rashinda Tlaiba, and as soon as this thing occurred, she had tweeted out, this is heartbreaking, white supremacy kills.

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Now white supremacy kills, and people were responding, Rashinda Tlaiba, the shooters were black.

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Someone else responded, the black Hebrew Israelites did this. So you know what you end up seeing is here, she actually had to take that tweet down.

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I'll give you a link so that you can see from Fox News where that actual tweet was, but what you end up seeing there is what's the immediate response from the left?

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The immediate response they have is white supremacy. Blame white supremacy. Somehow white supremacy caused this.

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Now this is the thinking that you end up having from leftists. The response is that white supremacy is the cause because these blacks are responding to white supremacists, and therefore it must be somehow justified because they're just, they had enough of the white supremacy and they're responding back.

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Well first off, they attack Jewish people. Jewish people who are not white supremacists.

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White supremacists usually are also anti -semitic. So white supremacists are not

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Jews, okay? But she's sitting here saying that this was from white supremacy.

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Well if it was a response to white supremacy, these blacks wouldn't go after another group that is also hated equally as much by white supremacists.

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You wouldn't have that. They would go after actual white supremacists, not after another group that's attacked by white supremacists.

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So this clearly is a way that they try to argue to cover up, or as one person said on Twitter, to whitewash the situation.

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They immediately go to their narrative. They immediately go to wanting to blame the white supremacists because that's the blame for everything, especially as we come up to an election year.

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I like what Daryl Harrison from Just Thinking had said. He's like, okay, it's time to start again because it's an election year.

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We're gonna get out all the white supremacist talk, all the racial talk. It always comes during an election year.

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That's what we see, and we're seeing that again. And here it's to blame white supremacists for what black racists do.

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This is black supremacy. Did you hear all those clips? What are they arguing for? Black supremacy.

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That's what this is. This is black supremacy that created this, not white supremacy. And if you're going to argue that, well, it's the white supremacists fault because the blacks had enough and they're responding to the whites, okay.

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But here's the problem. You're now promoting and giving cover for black supremacists.

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So therefore, are you going to get upset when the white supremacists are responding? Because I would argue, yes, there is going to be a response.

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What I think we're seeing is after eight years of Obama's racist taunts publicly, we end up seeing a bunch of white supremacists that are starting to respond.

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That's predictable. And the white supremacists should be stopped, but so should the black supremacists.

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And that's the issue. You don't see the black supremacists being stopped. You see them being given cover. Now, she took this down because, oh, this is a problem.

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But that doesn't stop the New York Times from finding some way to get cover for this.

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They don't want to blame the people that actually did this. They don't want to blame the teaching that actually caused this.

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No, this is Donald Trump's fault. Donald Trump. They are arguing that Donald Trump is causing anti -semitic attacks to rise.

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They go through all these anti -semitic attacks. And the New York Times said that Mr. Trump signed an executive order to combat anti -semitism on college campuses by using

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Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to withhold federal money from schools that fail to counter discrimination against Jews.

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And so they're saying that that act by Donald Trump is causing more anti -semitism. So somehow it's

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Trump's fault for trying to stop anti -semitism. He's actually causing it.

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That's the argument. So basically it always has to come back to Trump nowadays. But everything has to come back to not people who actually do it unless of course they can make it look like they're conservative.

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If you have someone that's a Christian, they're gonna say, oh we're gonna jump over it. Someone goes into a

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Planned Parenthood and starts shooting people and that's got to be Christian. So they're gonna jump on that.

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When they find out he's not Christian, they didn't kind of address that as much. It was assumed that this person was

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Christian. And so it was his Christian values that caused him to go into a

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Planned Parenthood and start shooting. I can't remember if it was Planned Parenthood or just an abortion clinic.

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But what you end up seeing is they have no problem saying the teachings in their mind cause that if it's

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Christianity. When a Christian does something or someone they can say is a Christian, they're gonna say, oh see

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Christianity does this. This is the teachings of Christianity. But when someone acts out what they actually believe and they happen to be black and it's black supremacy, that they can't address.

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No, that can't be because of blacks. That has to somehow be whites fault. And that's what you end up seeing.

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And the more cover they give for this, the more empowered these people are going to be.

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You heard the clips. You heard them from their own mouth. You hear them what they say when they think it's just their video.

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You can go and see tons of videos that they put out there when they're on the streets and the way they speak to people.

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And you are gonna hear this is the language. They're looking for riots. They're looking to enslave whites.

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They want black supremacy. So anybody, any of you liberals who are against white supremacy, you should be standing up with those

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Jewish people in Jersey City, standing with them side by side and saying we must put an end to this black supremacy.

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This black Hebrew Israelite group is a hate group. It is black supremacy. If you're gonna stand up against white supremacy, you must stand up against black supremacy as well.

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As long as there is racism, racism will exist. When you try to make excuses for any racism, you are promoting racism.

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And that's what we end up seeing. Scripture is quite clear. We are not to show preference to one another. Scripture says this multiple times, but you can look in James.

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We are not to show favoritism. That is a sign of someone that is not a Christian.

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Now, this is what we end up seeing as God's commands for all people. We should not be shown favoritism.

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Why? Because God does not show favoritism. We get our morals from the nature of God. God is not prejudiced.

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Therefore, we should not be prejudiced. There is nothing in Scripture that talks about races.

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Oh wait, no there is. There's only one thing that mentions it. The races are whether they're believers or unbelievers.

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That's it. There is no distinction with ethnicity, color of skin, the way your eyes are shaped.

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None of that. When you look scientifically, you take the most distant, from the most albino white to the darkest of dark, and you're talking such a small genetic difference.

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We are all the human race, and until we start understanding that, believing that, teaching that, practicing that, racism will continue.

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The only solution to racism is what the Scriptures say, is to stop looking at the color of people's skin.

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That's what I ended up saying in the one clip to the one guy. I don't look at someone and see black, white, yellow, red.

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I see a human being. I see a person that either needs Christ or knows Christ. That's how

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I'm gonna look at people. That's the only distinction I'm gonna make, and if they don't know

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Christ, I'm gonna share the gospel with them. If they know Christ, well what Matthew 28 says, 28, 19, and 20 says, is

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I should teach them all things Christ has taught me. That's called discipleship. That's what we do.

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What we see here is a being excused and given cover, and more people are going to die because of it, because the people that are practicing this stuff, they're being emboldened to do it more and more and more, and to just, in broad daylight, to walk into a shopping center and just start shooting people.

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That takes a certain amount of audacity, that just for two people to go do this, but if others see that they can get away with it, that they could be covered for this, that they can push their agenda, you may find more and more people doing this.

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That's what I fear, because the media is trying to blame the wrong people. The media doesn't want to lay the blame where it should be laid.

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It should be laid on these two people that did what they did. They have ultimate responsibility, but blame also needs to be laid on the teaching that you see that black

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Hebrew Israelites have. This is what is being taught. They're being taught a black supremacy.

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They're being taught to create riots. They're being taught to enslave whites. They're being taught to rape women.

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This is the belief system that many, not all, but many BHI have, and this is dangerous.

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This is hate speech. This is hateful behavior. This is terrorism.

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That's what we ended up seeing in Jersey City, and I know that for many, you're going, well, hey,

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Jersey City's out of the news already. I know, because it was a bunch of Jewish people being killed. If it was a bunch of Muslims being killed, or blacks being killed, it would be front page.

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You know what's not being on the news? You're not seeing that at the same time, 17

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Christians were killed by Muslims. Oh, well, yeah, they don't care about that.

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Christians are being killed every day around the world. It is the one group being killed more than any other is

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Christianity. The Christians are being slaughtered more than any other group, and here in America, we have people that go, oh, we want to blame the

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Christians for everything. You know, we're gonna blame conservatives for everything. These guys that did this were not conservative.

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This guy and this girl that did this, they were black supremacists.

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That's who did it. Lay the blame where it needs to go. Now, this is, they are a very violent, and they are anti -semitic.

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They're anti -semitic because of the fact that they hate all whites, but they hate Jews even more, and so this is,

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I'm praying for the families that are affected by this. We pray that they would come to know Christ through this, but I plead with people that may be getting involved with the black

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Hebrew Israelites, please go to the show notes, check out all the stuff that we have. We show you that what they're saying is not true.

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They're taking things out of context. They're not dealing with what the scripture actually says. This is a real problem, and my encouragement to you, please, please, if you're being swayed by this, you need to study what the scriptures say in context and get out.

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This is a hate group, and it needs to be stopped. This is a violent, wicked group that twists the scriptures and want to kill people.

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You heard that in that clip, and I'm gonna, I want to play this for you again, because I'm gonna leave you with this.

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What is it they want? They want to enslave whites, they want to rape women, they want race riots to start popping, and they want to kill whites.

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Just listen clearly. When he gets them whites, he's gonna pound those devils.

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Well, pound and kill is what we end up hearing, but this is what they want.

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That's what these people are. You got to call them out for what they are. I'll call out white supremacists, but I will also call out black supremacy as well.

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They're both sinful, they're both wrong, and they both need to end, but we hear people blaming this on white supremacy?

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No, this is black supremacy, and and for this congressperson that said that, she should be ashamed of herself.

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She should recognize who really is to blame, and she should call out equally the black supremacy that is causing this stuff, because this stuff is there.

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Remember, this is not promoting America. They want down with America. They want to destroy America. They think America is gonna fall into their hands where they can take all the whites as slaves.

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That's what this group is. Some didn't know anything about this group until this occurrence in Jersey City.

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I hope now you have a good idea what this group is like. Many in this group are believing this stuff.

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We could play hours and hours of clips, and you could see many of them hold to these views. Not all of them, but many of them do, especially those on the streets, and it doesn't matter that only some of them do, or the majority of them do.

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The fact is, those that do, there needs to be a stop to those just as much as there needs to be a stop to the white supremacists that are out there.

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Now, I know this is not an upbeat episode before holidays. I know, but it is important for you to understand when you hear people talk about the

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BHI, and you don't know who they are, I want you to know who they are. I want you to know that this is not something that occurred just out of character.

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This is what this group believes. I want you to know that. I want you to be able to hear it in their own words.

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This is who they are. So, next week, what we plan on doing, I hope, is to deal with basically how

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Christians should respond when given the choice of having a fellow Christian and an unbeliever.

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Who do we show favoritism toward? Who should we, not really show favoritism, but who do we honor more if we're stuck in a choice of honoring one or the other?

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Hey, Colleen, we have been pretty busy at the Christian Podcast Community. Yeah, we've added seven new podcasts.

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That's right. We've added Two Guys and a Bible. They're a conversation on theology, culture, and God's Word.

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And then we have some brand new podcasts. Why don't you share about Awe and Wonder?

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Yeah, so Awe and Wonder is hosted by a friend of mine, Kristen, and her podcast is to help women grow in biblical literacy, theology, discernment,

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And then we will have one last very special podcast that's going to be brand new, Theology Throwdown.

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And Colleen, this is where all of the podcasters of the Christian podcast community are going to gather once a month to discuss theology and discuss our differences that we all have in different areas.

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But we're going to display that we can talk theology with charity and love toward one another, kind of the way we think

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Christians should be behaving online. And we're going to be doing that and discussing theology, so it's going to teach theological issues, give different perspectives, and yet also display that we can do this with love and charity toward one another.

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So I hope everybody is checking out all of the new podcasts, and if you want to check them all out, go to christianpodcastcommunity .org

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