G1 Conference Session 2: Biblical and Scientific Reasons for Converting to Biblical Creation

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Hello again, my name is dr. Dan Biddle. I'm a president of Genesis apologetics And I'm really encouraged tonight to be able to share my testimony of why

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I converted to a biblical creationist so it first started out when I Just was growing through through my career as a behavioral scientist.

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I have a PhD in industrial organizational psychology I spent about 20 years testifying as an expert in state and federal court cases on statistics research and Evidence and I just love to grew grew to really love

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Evidence and how you can build a case and testifying and statistics and things like that It really grew an appreciation of the the level of vetting that's necessary Between when you would take something from a theory or from a book or from academic knowledge and compress it all the way through into court

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Testimony, so I grew a real appreciation for scientific evidence and research As part of my educational journey,

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I went to Western Seminary a graduate seminary for a time and loved taking classes there on Genesis and and theology and I'll never forget one of my theology classes were that were the professor a really seasoned professor said

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Look and he's speaking from a command position of knowing the Hebrew and the ancient texts that were written

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That were used to write Genesis and he said Whoever wrote the ancient text of Genesis was very very clear that the days were real ordinary days and the

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Genesis genealogies that go in the first 11 chapters are clearly true history.

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That was a perspective of the writer and So you just you guys have to deal with that That was a perspective the perspective office offered by the professor, but then he said in the very next breath but if you believe in science the earth has to be millions of years old and biology has to be millions of years old and Even billions of years old for the origins of everything

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So you guys go figure that out and he sent the class out and said well, you know You're gonna have to deal with these two different constructs these two different ideas of a

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Genesis that that teaches from a young earth history perspective and Alleged scientific evidence that shows that earth must be billions of years old

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So I went through a period of cognitive dissonance where I was trying to struggle in my faith

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How can these two things fit together? And then I learned later that they really can't

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I went to a presentation that was actually done by our vice -president Dave Bisbee at a large church here in the area and the title of the talk was dinosaurs and the theme of this talk was

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Dinosaurs lived recently and were named by Adam and I went to this talk as a great skeptic and thought this is going to be

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Hilarious, I can't believe this guy actually believes this stuff. So I went there and about 15 minutes into his talk

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I thought you know what my gosh He actually does have some points here But why is it that all these ancient cultures have legends and myths and cave drawings and paintings about these?

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Dragon -like creatures that look an awful lot like dinosaurs that could have survived after Noah's flood through by being on the ark and being let off afterwards and survived for centuries and go to generate all these legends and Yeah, it's very interesting

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Why where do you get that evidence about dinosaurs having soft tissue and it's not just some types of soft tissue

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It's lots of different types of soft tissue that we still find in dinosaur bones today So I thought gosh, that's very interesting if these dinosaurs are supposedly 65 million years old

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How is it that soft tissue could be preserved? Then he went through the evidence of Noah's flood and looked at all the layers and the extent of the dinosaur

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Record and that the talk was so moving to me I took about three months of My of my then free time that I had and burned some vacation time and I really went into this issue

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Obsessively, I spent thousands of dollars on books and DVDs. I flew to Montana I flew to Canada did firsthand dinosaur research and about half the way through that process.

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I came to the incredible Realization. Oh my gosh, it's all true

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Genesis 1 to 11 is a real historical narrative earth is just thousands of years old

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Adam was present with dinosaurs are created. He took Dominion over to everything He named everything just as Genesis talks about and at that point.

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I had to really reshape my entire world view and and that's what leads us to where we're at today because when

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I went to back to school night after going through this Metamorphosis experience of mine this huge awakening and went to back to school night at a local public school for my son and Listened to the teacher in the world history class say well, you know

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We're required as part of the state curriculum to cover this evolutionary topic. Don't worry It's only about two weeks of the class

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Curriculum and then she starts going into the the story about why they have to teach evolution and she says well

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Don't bother if you're Catholic or Jewish or Christian and you don't believe in this evolutionary stuff it's just a short section and and as she's saying these things

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I'm looking at the the bookshelf and she has all kinds of Books there on Darwinism and evolution teaching and and then

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I look up on the counter and she's got three different Bottles, she's got like a quart sized bottle that goes all the way up to a gallon sized bottle and I remember my son

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Telling me yet. Yeah, she uses these bottles to talk about the cranial capacity of early male leading up to Homo sapiens like we have today and Having listened to her talk that night and being a recently awakened creationist who knew

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Concretely knew that the Genesis account was a real Historical account. I actually got sick to my stomach and had to walk home

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I was broken at the time just like God break my heart for what breaks yours because here I I was

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Reflecting on my son saying yeah dad all these students that are going to this class is six straight class They all have their heads down pencils in hand and they're just writing now whatever the teacher says they're being formatted like a hard drive program and They're being taught from an evolutionary standpoint and the evidence that they were giving seemed to be quite compelling

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And there was of course nothing and nothing against it and nothing from the creation side.

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So that really Broke my heart and you know, Lord break my heart for what breaks yours

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I took several months of prayer and thought about that and then later the Lord I would say

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Gave us a commissioning to start Genesis apologetics ministry So let's talk about science first from the big a big standpoint when you look at the scientific method and I was rigorously trained in this by going through my

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PhD with behavioral science and Scored really high in the comprehensive exams dealing with research.

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I love research. I love the scientific method I've worked with the scientific method. I've done research

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It's been approved by the federal government on a number of different occasions in a number of different fields I love this stuff and I've really grown to appreciate there is a clear demarcation

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There's a clear line that divides two types of science. There's historical science on one hand that requires tons of inference and that's when you're talking about things in the distant past that we can't see

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Test repeat or observe then you have the real kind of science a scientific method which requires

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Observational science you have to make an observation frame some interesting questions formulate hypotheses

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Develop testable predictions and then gather data to test the predictions and then test them and all of these things require

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Observation, this is how we put people on the moon and develop new medicines and things like that.

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It has to require observational testable and repeatable Science, but when you look at this scientific method from a very objective standpoint, you know that three of these six steps

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Cannot be done because you can't see observe and test evolution. You can't go back a hundred years

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You can't go back a thousand. You can't go back millions of years supposedly to test or see or videotape any form of evolution and in fact

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If you take all of the historical narrative that we have in libraries today Which is a between four and five thousand years of accurately recorded history

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No one's ever watched or observed evolution happening All we see is animals generating and reproducing after their own kind just like prescribed ten different times in The Genesis account in the first chapter

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So evolution is not observable testable and replicable and I want students to make sure they understand this

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Distinction between real science that you can take into a courtroom and testify about which requires observation testing a repetition and Historical science where you can't do those things and it has a great degree of abstraction and inference

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So when I would testify as an expert in court cases using statistical evidence The really savvy attorneys that would come against me and come against my case and my testimony

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They wouldn't address the facts they're not going to attack me on on the facts They're not even going to attack me on my scientific methods or statistical procedures that I use the smart savvy attorneys who want to slam against my case are going to go straight after my

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Assumptions because the the questioning would would be something like this. Dr. Biddle. Isn't it true that if your assumptions are wrong about your analysis?

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Then your interpretations about the facts are also wrong. Isn't that true and I would have to say yes

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You got me there so if they could stick a big enough lever and leverage under the assumptions and start deconstructing the

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Assumptions of my analyses and the whole house that I had assembled of the evidence

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I was prepared to testify in court about would deconstruct and fall apart So it's the same thing with origin science when you want to talk about evolution when you start going into the deep past and using historical science and historical effort inference the amount of Assumptions that people are making about what they're seeing with a fossil record or ever when you pull out a fossil out of the ground

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It's not date -stamped. There's some analyses that you can do But all you know for sure about that fossil is that it died and it was buried in whatever

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Matrix that it's buried in so that's just something Important to think about when we consider evidence.

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So Observational science is how what we do today. It's the real scientific method it's how we put airplanes in the sky and make new medicines and Historical science that requires a great deal of abstraction and inference

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So when it comes to viewing the data the evidence itself of the world We really have two different opposing worldviews that are looking at the same data the same evidence one would be through a context or a lens of the

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Bible looking through the Bible into the the data and the evidence and Interpreting it through that world view that lens or one that would take man's theories and the secular ideas of evolution and Interpret the same data and based upon those two different interpretation lenses looking at the same set of facts

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We're gonna have two different belief systems and two different world views and oftentimes for many people two different life

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Destinies both possibly and of course in this life and in the next so these are heavy stakes topics that we're dealing with So one is a naturalistic worldview and the other requires a super naturalistic worldview

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So this is a fun mean that's been going around the internet and generally. It's true a true science is

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Observational testable repeatable and falsifiable and millions of years of evolution is none of those

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It's not observable testable repeatable or falsifiable. So we encourage people to know the difference

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So what about ancient writings, I mean don't we have ancient history that goes deep deep far into the past Well, actually we don't if you start talking to the leading

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Experts on on writing and the clay tablets and everything that are in all these museums around the world Yes We do have writing that that we can gather from the ancient

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Greeks the Hittites the Egyptians got some have some records We have a really old Egyptian medical record that goes back before Christ the

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Sumerian writings Writings and the Hebrew and the Chinese probably actually go back some of the furthest but some of the furthest writing

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But after you start fizzling out between four and five thousand years ago without using carbon dating when you just have real

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Concrete physical writing that you can put in front of you and oftentimes what these historians will do is try to take these writings and Correlate it with observable events where a person's writing something down and saying yeah,

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I'm seeing this big volcano blow up over here They can tie those two events together and then correlate and concretely date that writing

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There are other writing that people say is older than four to five thousand years But almost all the time they're requiring carbon 14 dating to try to date how old those writings are

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There's a lot of assumptions that go along with that So when it goes for our ancient history that going back beyond 5 ,000 years, what are we going to fill up this?

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Vacancy with how are we going to start inferring about what to believe about the ancient past because the

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Bible only has About 6 ,000 years of history that goes straight back to Adam And if you follow the

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Septuagint text, maybe 7 ,800 years But you're certainly not going to get tens of thousands or millions of years

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We have to have a choice of how we're going to go back into ancient history We can believe in the the radiometric dating that will get us

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Supposedly back millions of years or we can hop on God's train that only has thousands of years but one thing

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I want to point out as a Scientist is there's this thing that we use in science called a standard error of prediction and a standard error prediction is a

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Confidence level around a prediction that we can make statistically Did you know that the further we go back in history the wider our standard error prediction gets we know exactly what's going on today?

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We have records and video files and audio files. We know what's going on with politics We know what's going on with world events and you can go back a hundred years

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We have some pretty strong confidence, too But what happens if you go back a thousand years well that confidence interval of what we're trying to learn about Starts declining and it starts declining pretty rapidly when you go back to three four five thousand years

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We know for sure things about the Vikings and the birth of Christ and ancient Egypt and ancient

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China But the further we go back the less our confidence gets so we have to fill up that shadow area the gray area that goes into obliqueness

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With a confidence that comes from faith or confidence that comes from man's ideas that are largely going to be based at that point on radiometric dating

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So it requires faith and the assumption levels are going to go up up and up So what are we going to do to trust in that empty void when all of ancient writing runs out

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But wait a second you know what about this radiometric dating thing don't we have clear scientific evidence that says that you know the earth is 4 .5

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billion years old and and then life on earth started about three billion years and kept going from from there

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Well one of the reasons that I don't ascribe to radiometric dating as a scientist is as a scientist

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We have to do this thing called Validation and it's what I did for 20 years and state of federal court cases over a hundred court cases

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I would go in as an expert in validation and validation is real simple It's when you take your theory or your idea or your data

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And you try to confirm it in some concrete way to say your honor look at that We've got this theory or the statistical process that says something might have happened and that it happened in real life

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So in in job performance and test scores we can say well people score really high on test scores

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We should have job performance at a certain level. That's what validation would do Validation when it comes to radiometric dating is real simple if we take a rock of a known age where people want watch a rock

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Igneous rocket formed out of a volcanic eruption We should be able to take that rock if it's 50 years old or a 500 years old where people in history

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Watch that rocket form we should be able to take that rock into a scientific laboratory and date it and that the

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Calculated date should match the observed date makes sense, right? It should be if it's a 50 year old rock should come back with a 50 year old

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Radiometric dating analysis or a 500 year old rock 500 year dating analysis thousands years, whatever

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It's going to be but you know that they've been trying to do this for decades and it doesn't work

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Every single time they take rocks of known ages into a scientific

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Radiometric dating lab that the radiometric dating ages are exaggerated by millions and millions of years

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In fact, I was an online debate months with the geologists that love radiometric dating and he said dr.

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Biddle. Don't you know? Radiometric dating is a is a firmly ground principle of science

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We know radiometric dating works and he says I've got 5 ,000 geology books in my library

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And I said look that's great. If you've got 5 ,000 geology books in your library Can you just go find one just go find a single book that has a catalog of several different radiometric dating?

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analyses where these Radiometric dating age matches the known observed age and he said no, it's all based on theory

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They don't have that type of validation So when you're thinking about radiometric dating if samples of known ages

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In the radiometric dating doesn't work. Why would we assume that samples of an unknown age would work?

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It's a logical contradiction of radiometric dating is true we should be able to go to volcanic eruptions all over the world for many different centuries apart and Collect samples that would clearly line up with observed science and that's not what happens

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The radiometric dating age always comes back with an exaggerated age It's millions and millions years older than the the known ages of the samples

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And of course when you look at several different types of geochronometers that that do try to estimate the age of the earth

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I have a sample here of over 50 of them that are from answers in Genesis There are dozens and dozens of geochronometers that do come back with Thousands of years old for the age of the earth and not millions or billions

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So when it comes to ancient past and when we start going beyond the reaches of ancient history

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We really can take Genesis as a real history account and look at a an earth That's between six and eight thousand years old or we can take millions or billions

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But the only way that you can go there is by having faith and radiometric dating or you can choose to have faith in God's Word So let's talk about this for a minute.

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Well, aren't we really splitting hairs? Does it really even matter what what we believe in? Yes, it does because there are some really important theological implications if we believe in millions of years so if we take a literal

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Interpretation of Genesis where God created everything in six days and step back and called it perfect and said behold it is very good

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Then we have six days of creation and then at some point afterwards we have the fall

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We have the time where Adam and Eve and their free will chose to go against God disobeyed and they and by that disobedience

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They brought the curse of sin and death Onto the earth that's in Genesis chapter 2 verse 17 and God cursed the earth and said thorns and thistles

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It shall now produce for you. So we have death and thorns and thistles as a consequence of our sin

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And so we have death and suffering are brought into the world by Adam and Eve sin

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It seems like a very very clear logical flow. So now we can say hey death cancer

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Disease blood suffering all those things are our fault because our ancient grandparents

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Adam and Eve had a choice They messed up and death and suffering come as a result of that.

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That's the logical theological flow from Genesis But if you take a non literal interpretation of Genesis, we have creation and somehow

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Radiometric dating and and how they date index fossils would have millions of years of death deceived disease carnivorism and suffering

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Before Adam and Eve were even here to bring the curse of sin and death. So you just see that the the challenge here so now we have death and suffering and thorns and thistles that are supposedly for Existent in the fossil record for millions of years before Adam and Eve were even here to bring the curse of sin and death

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So then at some point under the evolutionary time frame or the theistic evolutionary time frame

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We would then have Adam and Eve then at some point after that we have the fall Which really would have no effect because death sin suffering carnivorism was already here through that evolutionary worldview

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And that would of course blame God for death suffering blood said cancer

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Carnivorism all those things that were here would be part of his initial design

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They weren't God made everything perfect Adam and Eve named everything They took Dominion everything and it was after that that the fall came and that's what brought death suffering bloodshed and disease

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The theistic evolutionary viewpoint has it all backwards So man's word would say look time plus death is what led from this shrew like creature millions of years ago that somehow supposedly survived the dinosaur extinction on to mammals and then early man led to homo sapiens so it would be through that process of Time death suffering and selection would go from mammals all the way to man

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But God's word said that it was sin that brought death and God did not use death to bring

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New biological life forms here on earth So when the Bible says that God saw all that he had made it was very good and we have the

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Garden of Eden here We can't have them sitting on Millions of years of stratified death and the fossil record.

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It just does not line up or scripture We can't have a death pain millions of years of disease and suffering present before Adam and Eve or even here to bring the fall

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Okay, so we can't have millions of years of these things leading to man's existence and then

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Whereas the Bible says it's sin that's what brought led to death So here's some biblical reasons why

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I converted to the biblical creation position If you look historically throughout the the teaching of the church from inception, you know

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The the Bible that we have today is roughly 3 ,500 years worth of recorded You know narratives and if you look through the predominant teaching of the church fathers and what the historians said from the

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Bible going all the way through there We have you know about 6 ,000 years of history and and and we've got a clear biblical creation teaching account was a predominant

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Christian view until just recently we had things pop up like the gap theory or The day age theory that was more recent or the framework theory or progressive creation

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These are things that are relatively new in history and I think the historical approach has got lots and lots of grounded foundation because if you look at the 32 biblical chronologists that existed for hundreds of years back

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The vast majority of them were at least all of these 32 historians place creation under a recent paradigm

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There's really two camps You can take the Masoretic camp Which is what our Bibles today are mostly based upon and it has about 6 ,000 years of history

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The Septuagint version goes a little bit back further. This is a very deep complicated discussion about how we get there

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But it has to do with just a handful of the dates of the patriarch being changed from one

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Set of manuscript traditions compared to the other set of manuscript traditions But either way we have creation that is less than 10 ,000 years old

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The thing that really did it for me was a fourth commandment I had to approach the fourth commandment of the

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Ten Commandments in a very honest way and I think if there's any one scripture that boxed me into wanting to believe that the six days were real ordinary days

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It would be the the fourth commandment and so this fourth commandment says for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth the sea and all that is in them

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And rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hollowed it

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So here we have God as a communicator making a very clear message Over to the

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Israelites that he created everything in six days So the question to think about is when you break this down and look at the

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Ten Commandments objectively Well communication includes both the sender and a receiver God wrote these

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Ten Commandments on stone with his own hand and you look at the Ten Commandments Holistically or any of them metaphorical things like don't steal don't commit adultery

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Adultery don't lie don't murder. No, they're all very very concrete things that God wanted the

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Israelites to believe and do and you think How could God have been more clear about this? He said for in six days that created the heavens the earth the sea and all that is in them

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So the question that I ask people when they say look, it doesn't matter. You can interpret it different ways

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I just I like to ask people two questions I think this is an insignificant thing or you want to stretch out the days into millions of years

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The first part is what did God want the Israelites to believe about creation week?

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What God wanted them to believe is he was obviously referring back to Genesis 1 where he created in six days as the omniscient narrator

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He was talking about that and he said well I created in six and rested in one and I want you guys to take that same pattern in a real way real way in Your life and work for six and then rest on once he was saying look what

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I did I want you guys to replicate and there's some pretty famous theologians through history

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Martin Luther being one of them It says look God could have created in a split second He could have created in over a day

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But he didn't he chose to model creation over six full days that we would have a cycle and a rhythm to live by So the second question is does

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God want us to believe any differently? Do we want to look at God in our spirit and say well, you know

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I know that's what you wanted the Israelites to believe before science and before they had all this information about science in the world

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But today I want to believe something differently probably not I think it's best to humble ourselves under what

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God said and believe it today. Just like the Israelites did back then Then when you start looking hermeneutically into the

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Bible and look at things about Genesis 1 we think well my gosh, isn't it interesting that he got himself boxes in each of the six days with Predescribing characteristics there was evening there was morning.

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There was a day and there was a number So he does this with each of the six creation days

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He says there was day one day two, three, four, five six And he says for all of these there was evening there was morning the fourth day.

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There was evening there was morning There was the fifth day on on forward for all six days

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So if you look at the six days where God created He really boxes each one in with an evening morning a day a number now, why would he do that?

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I think he's trying to be clear in Genesis 1 and then of course he goes through and was very very clear in the fourth commandment on what he wanted us to believe

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About these six days being so real and so practical that he wants us to live our life cycle in this same type of Creation cycle that he did at the beginning

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So and then when you look at the word day, which is yeoman in Hebrew It's used about 2 ,300 times in the old in the

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Old Testament. And why do people only question in Genesis? Yes, there are several places in Scripture where day does not have to mean a real day

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It can mean age or a period but when you look at Genesis chapter 1 and how the word yeoman is used in context it means an ordinary day because anytime you take that word and use it with a number or Evening and morning together without day or evening or morning together with day or night with day

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Which in these things occurred dozens of times through Scripture. It always means an ordinary day

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So for me at least looking at these things and wanting to do my best to honor God with his word

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I'm coming at it saying hey, he wants me to believe it was six ordinary days Well, what about the 6 ,000 year old earth?

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Where do we get that from Scripture? It's very very straightforward Genesis chapter 5 10 and 11 provide us with 87 different patriarchs and 33 of whom are we're given their birth and death years

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Should we start from Adam and Eve we go back with their kids and their kids God's providing a historical narrative here for us

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That goes back Thousands of years and we have lots and lots of connected history that are in just those three chapters of Genesis When you look at them more carefully and you narrow down into Genesis chapter 5 look what

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God does here He says well Adam lived a hundred and thirty years and begot a son in his own likeness

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After his own image named him Seth and after he begot set the days of Adam or 800 years

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So 930 total he does that for all of the pre -flood patriarchs and we can add those all up and get about 1556 years you have about 1656 years of biblical history before the flood hit and then we have the genealogies in the history that go from the flood all the way to Abraham all the way through Moses and David and it goes all the way connecting to Jesus Christ himself

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Now as a as a scientist I've studied this topic exhaustively and oh my gosh

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Did I run into something incredible? Thanks to John Sanford. He's a geneticist worked at Cornell Developed the gene gun

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He did some extensive studies on why is it that you have these ten pre -flood?

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Patriarchs who live an average of nine hundred and twelve years and all of a sudden there's a shelf that their lifespans dramatically fall off and begin this exponential decline

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Rapidly right after the flood how in the world could you have a these ancient biblical writers say?

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Yeah, these guys that lived before the flood are living, you know 700 and 900 years with an average of nine hundred and twelve years all of a sudden you hit the flood and their lifestand start

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Lifespans start going down 600 400 300 200, but they don't just fall at the shelf.

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There is a gradual systematic decline that goes down in the lifespans that happen after the flood and So we can we can see this statistically and we can even validate it from the text itself that says here

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You know Farrah Pharaoh said to Jacob. How old are you and Jacob one of these these patriarchs and Jacob said to Pharaoh Well the days and of the years of my pilgrim pilgrimage are about a hundred and thirty years few and evil have been the days of the years of my life and They have not attained to the days of the years of the life of my father's in the days of their pilgrimages

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So Jacob saying yeah There were these guys that came before me that lived a lot longer than I did and then

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Jacob died at age 147 far outliving the people of today the short explanation as to why this is happening is that when you take the entire gene pool of humanity before the flood about four and a half thousand years ago and you bottleneck them down to Noah and his wife and Shem ham and J path and their wives you take all of Humanity in the genetic varieties and stick them down to a bottleneck of just eight people

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They're on the ark for 371 days and they get off and start reproducing Rapidly and now all of a sudden we have a compression a genetic bottleneck whereby the genetic mutations that start

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Accumulating from that slight degree of inbreeding starts decreasing our lifespans dramatically

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In fact when you look at it statistically and plot it out You can throw what's called a power curve on this or a power law regression

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It's it's an exponential form of regression. We love looking at this stuff statistically Do you know that if you were to plot out these lifespans?

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I believe there's about 20 data points here on this curve. You take the ancient biblical text

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It's about 3 ,500 years old that was compiled from text before it Somehow whoever wrote this stuff down nailed an r -square of 95 %

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So you really have two choices here either the ancient writers compiling these lifespans

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We're writing a real history that reflected a genetic bottleneck where mutations were increasing and people did in fact started living you know fewer and fewer years or the only other option you have is some ancient writer sheep herder out there with his feather and cap and in some kind of a parchment was somehow inventing a logarithm logarithmic

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Exponential decay curve that fits along a predicted line with 95 % accuracy with only one of those data points

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Coming outside of its predicted range. That's Impossible. In fact when you run the

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ANOVA on this and look at the statistical analysis these the odds of this

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Exponential decay curve coming up by chance or less than one chance in a quadrillion some phenomenon was happening

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Whereby these Lifespans exponentially decreases they just didn't just fall off a list off of a shelf or not made up It was an exponential gradual curve where the regression analysis can track it and say there's something going on and Biologists know this is a biological decay curve

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In fact, if you zoom in on some of these points and look at the prediction the standard error prediction over 10 like 10 generations after the flood we can say with great accuracy

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We should have someone living between a hundred and thirty seven and two hundred thirty four years old and the model predicts it all the data

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Points are right within that value. There's only one outlier. You can see there about 400 and some years It's a little bit above the predicted range, but if you follow through that going we have 15 generations after Noah Then the model predicts they should live between a hundred and a hundred and seventy two years and all the data points fit tightly within that So I think it's really

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Extremely unlikely that some ancient writer Writing with a feather pin on animal parchment would be capable of developing

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This degree of mathematical certainty so we can't have this guy Developing these formulas and following a power law curve and an exponential decline curve where the regression

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Where we're 95 percent of the variable Y is explained by the data points

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X It's just impossible Something's going on with these lifespans that statisticians today are baffled by because when they're recorded they go right down a ski slope

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And they level out so something was definitely going on there We also know that that these are real historical people because Jesus himself referred to these

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Old Testament characters like Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel and Noah's flood and Adam and Lot and Abraham all these go back on our

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Lord Jesus referred to these people as real true historical figures In fact, he threw back and referred to the

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Old Testament over 40 at least 42 times that we can gather here And every single time

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Jesus referred back to the Old Testament was within a literal historical context

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When you look at at the Messianic genealogy of Jesus Luke chapter free three provides over 70 generations that we can track

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Historically going from Jesus all the way back to Adam and there's there's a reason that this happens is to show that History and the gospel and our salvation story is grounded in real history

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It's not some mythical account doesn't require a lot of faith to go back there and plug in the gaps

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We have real connected Patriarchs over 70 generations that started Adam go all the way through the pre -flood

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Patriarchs go all the way after the flood all the way through Abraham and David you can connect that Patriarchal line all the way from Adam to Christ and over 70 generations

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Amazing history that provided by Luke. What about Genesis in the New Testament? Well, if you look at the first 11 chapters of Genesis, it's referenced by New Testament writers over a hundred times

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If it's not a real historical account Then we might as well throw out these New Testament writers as well because a hundred times that over a hundred times in New Testament Writers refer back to Genesis 1 to 11 as real actual history

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So next let's look at some evidence related reasons that I converted to a biblical creationist

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I think one of the things one way to frame this is just be to take a look at 2nd Peter 3

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This is an amazing passage or written by Peter and he says near the close of his letter

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He says look above all else know this that in the last days Scoffers are gonna come and they're gonna scoff two things

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Creation out of nothing and a catastrophic flood and that's exactly what we see today

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It's hard to turn on the news today or open any high school or college age Textbook that talks about science or origin that doesn't deny and really attack those two things in fact there's some some textbooks coming out more recently that do outrightly make an attack against Christian and Judeo -christian beliefs about origins so here

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Peter 2 ,000 years ago writing says Remember this above any everything that scoffers are going to come in the last days and they're gonna scoff openly creation out of nothing and The flood and that's exactly what we see today

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In fact, I would say that from from my perspective of those two things looking at creation in the flood

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They're quite obvious to me by looking at the historical evidence. It's very very obvious that there was a worldwide flood there

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It's very obvious that God spoke everything out of nothing, but it's Obfuscated and the definition here of obfuscated is to render indistinct or dim darken

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Unclouded obscured and muddled. So anytime you go through a Natural History Museum today

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You will see lots of evidence for creation in the flood, but it's obfuscated through a naturalistic worldview or lens

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So we'll take a quick journey through some of the highlights of creation in the flood that I personal

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Believer are quite obvious but have been obfuscated. The first one is let's start with this somehow

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In the past the middle of America was collapsed and filled with water sufficient to bury

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Not thousands not hundreds of thousands but millions upon millions of land and sea creatures were buried and sandwiched together in stratified layers in the middle of America encompassing three partial countries over a million square miles in 14 states we're looking at a stretch of about 1 ,800 miles tall all the way from the northern tip of Mexico going all the way up to the southern tip of Canada There is a dinosaur kill zone in the middle of America.

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That's just unbelievable. It's about a thousand miles wide so how do you fill these 13 plus states with dinosaurs and Fish and birds and oysters and Malignant marine life and and and land creatures and fill them all together

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But it's not just that how would you fill these? 13 plus state region of America with dinosaurs and marine life and ash mud and sand

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Because that's what they're buried in and when you uncover most of the dinosaur fossils in this 13 state region

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They're buried in those three different materials ash mud and sand so you have to have a perspective that's going to account for those three different Materials making a composite well the secular idea is that several different seaways over millions of years or tens of millions of years

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Rose and fell and rose and fell and gradually slipped under North America over millions of years as the seafloor subducted

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The biblical standpoint is that no something more catastrophic Happened to explain that massive dinosaur kill zone of 13 states, and that one will look at today so Secularists and creationists believe that there was a pangea formation that was rapidly

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Split apart is our perspective and of course is slowly a perspective over millions of years as a secular idea

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So what you just watched in that animation the secularists and creationists are on the same page yeah, that happened, but creationists say it happened in about a year and Evolutionists say it happened over hundreds of millions of years

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But it we would agree that the the continental configuration was once put together and was split apart

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We believe it happened Catastrophically, and we believe that when the seafloor subducted underneath the landmass

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It's reflected by a huge huge amount of volcanic ash so as the seafloor subducts

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We have the Independence Dike swarm there. That's about a 370 mile stretch of all volcanic system in Southern, California that burst open

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Bringing all kinds of ash and then we have lots of different Mega volcanoes that happened both during and after the flood that waned in severity the first one

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Independence Dike swarm was when the the seafloor began at subduction Bursting out and covering about half of the

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United States in ash Dramatically and then during of the latter stages of the flood and afterwards we have other huge ass deposits being laid down How did that happen well the

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Bible says that on the same day? All of the fountains of the great deep were broken up and the windows of heaven were open so on the same day not some but all of the fountains of the great deep or burst open if you look at a

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Barometric map which is a map with the ocean water removed we have all kinds of underwater volcanoes.

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There's thousands of them most of these many of these fall along what's called the oceanic rift system, which is a 40 ,000 mile network of a linear rift system that covers the entire globe about 1 .7

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times over and it was these linear rifts these linear splits that broke open

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Bursting forth, that's the fountains of the great deep and that's what served as a catalyst for pushing the land continents apart

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And I'm going to cover this in detail when we cover my talk on Noah's Flood later The other thing that got got to me with respect to a more spontaneous

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Creation is when you look at the dinosaur family tree or you look at dinosaurs ancestors and transitions

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And you look into the secular literature about where did they come from and how did they? Transition from one kind of the next you run into things like this from the dinosaur encyclopedia that says well

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We have the yellow lines, which is the real actual fossil data And then we have the gray lines

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Which is all inference and so they think one type of creature led to the other led to the other led to the other

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But when you take away the guesswork, which is the gray lines, which is all inference

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We're left with just fossil data evidence And if you subtract the millions of years We have a whole bunch of dinosaur kinds that were created on the sixth day of creation

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In fact, Croatia's believe that there was about 80 different kinds of animal or of dinosaur varieties

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That were probably put on board the Ark and brought on and died off rapidly after that But if you look here, it's very clear that the secularists don't have clear fossil data connecting the transitions

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All they have is a created forms that show up and stay with mostly stasis in the fossil record

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Here is a sign actually from the Chicago Field Museum that even admits it says look

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We've got you know over 200 ,000 of these types of dinosaurs and 78 Tyrannosaurus Rex's and 287 recovered sauropods and the number of Ancestors and transitions leading to these different types of body plans is zero

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They don't have the transitions going for one kind to the next It's almost like someone just came here on earth showed up and put out all these different animal kinds at the same time

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Which is exactly what the Bible would say So you go through and there's no common ancestor and they don't have the transitions between the kinds

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In fact, this is even admitted by leading secular paleontologist, this is dr.

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Why shampoo Says from my reading of the fossil record of dinosaurs No direct ancestors have been discovered for any dinosaur species

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Alas my list of dinosaur and ancestors is an empty one Another one here from dr.

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Viola. He's a leading pterosaur expert he says we know only little about the evolution of pterosaurs the

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Ancestors are not known when the pterosaurs first appear in the geologic record

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They were completely perfect. They were perfect pterosaurs So when you look at pterosaurs

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You would expect one kind to lead to another kind lead to another kind he said no when they show up in the dirt And we uncover them.

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They're already pterosaurs. There's nothing before them nothing after them. They're still just pterosaurs

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Now what about dinosaur soft tissue, you know now there's over 50 different peer -reviewed scientific non creationist journals that established that there's now over 16 different types of soft tissue that have been discovered in dinosaur bones.

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I'm going to cover some of those specifically Here's a video a snippet from the is Genesis history movie

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Showing Mark Armitage stretching out a piece of triceratops horn So you one must ask from a practical level if this triceratops horn is really millions of years old

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How can you take it under a microscope and stretch it out like that? This material is fresh

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It's still got the soft tissue inside of the horn Horn material here.

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You can grab these forceps and some tweezers and stretch the material out It certainly doesn't look like like dinosaur material.

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That's millions and millions of years old in Fact if you take one of these 16 different organic materials that they're finding in dinosaurs bones specifically

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Which is collagen there's been over five different scientific studies that have tried to estimate

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The half -life and the maximum shelf life of collagen because bones are an infused matrix of both collagen and the bone mineral the hard stuff and the soft stuff is all infused together and the collagen which makes up the the soft material that's going into the dinosaur bone has a

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Decay rate and a half -life that can be estimated by scientists today and depending on which study you visit some of them say look

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We think them Theoretical maximum half -life of collagen is only 10 ,000 years another study says well

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Maybe 30 ,000 years another study comes out I may be a hundred thousand years and the latest most comprehensive study says well

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We think that dinosaur soft material that the collagen we're finding in these dinosaur bones could go between maybe 300 ,000 years and 900 ,000 years max

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But notice this that of all five studies They're all saying the maximum shelf life of dinosaur collagen in these bones

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Can't be more than a million years old so if each one of these blue lines represents a million years

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Collagen is only lasting one of the 65 lines Scientists today are in a huge conundrum saying yeah if we analyze collagen and its decay rate

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Can't last some more than a million years old, but how are we finding it in dinosaur bones in fact?

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Dr.. Schweitzer just came out with a study recently saying you know what we can now Confirm at the molecular level that the college we're finding in dinosaur bones is organic to the creature

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It's not contamination. It's not biofilm. It's real collagen that came from real dinosaurs

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Okay, and we can even do some of our own studies. We can take edmontosaurus bones that we're finding subject them to scanning electron

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Microscopes and look at them and analyze the data, and they do all kinds of really sophisticated science And it comes back as hydroxyapatite real bone when

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I was a kid It was grilled into me through public school that dinosaur bones are just rocks are all per mineralized

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The bone material is just been replaced by minerals from the soil But that's not the case the dinosaur bones that we're finding today are still real original dinosaur bones in fact

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The head of the Royal Terrell Museum in Drumheller the leading dinosaur Museum of the biggest one in the world

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Says yeah, usually most of the original bone we find in dinosaurs is still present. It's a it's a real dinosaur bone

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It's not a rock that's been Used to be a bone. It's a real bone still now

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There are plenty of bones that we find that are heavy heavily mineralized, but many of them are not they're just original bone

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So the question would be How in the world do we get these? 14 and more recent studies have shown you can add nerves and cartilage and a few other thing now we're up to 16 different type of Biological organic materials that should not be in dinosaur bones things like fecks histones

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Proteins red blood cells red blood vessels these these materials are in dinosaur bones

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They can't be millions of years old, but they do fit a flood paradigm Yeah, it's even it's miraculous in itself that they could last 4 ,400 years and still be intact because they were sandwiched quickly in mud, but they certainly can't be 65 million years old

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Okay, so in summary I believe in biblical creation because I believe honestly it's it's true It sets my life under the authority of Scripture There's a lot of scriptures in God's Word that talk about the rewards that come to people for honoring his word and believing it

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Certainly shapes my worldview and differentiates me from the world every time I go to movies or a natural history museum

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I understand there's a clear difference between how the world is going to perceive things and how I'm gonna perceive things

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It helps me raise stable grounded children And the Bible says look blessed are those who hear the

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Word of God and keep it That's in Luke chapter 8 verse 28 and Luke also says

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Records Jesus saying for whoever is ashamed of me and my words of him the Son of Man will be ashamed when he comes in his own glory and in his and in his father's and of the holy angels and then the

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Bible also says Those by the wayside are the ones who hear and the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts

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Lest they should believe and be saved. So my encouragement to everyone tonight is don't let that happen

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Don't let the enemy come and take doubts and Discouragement and disbelief that's going to take the powerful

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Word of God out of your heart and out of your mind So thank you very much for letting me share.