On The Road - Episode 8 - King James Only Groups

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Welcome back to On The Road. This is Andy Cain and it is September 24th.

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It's been a couple weeks since I've been with you but I've been working on a whole lot of different stuff. So today

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I want to talk about and this will fit in God -Centered Theology because part of God -Centered Theology is understanding how we got the

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Bible, where we got our Bible, how it came to be, how we you know all these good things are very important and the translation piece of our

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Bible is specifically we talked about it the English language. One of the issues we deal with and we've dealt with it for at a minimum probably about 150 years but it is the gift that keeps on giving because it never goes away and it's sad but it's just something we have to deal with that's

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King James only ism. It's something I'm gonna be talking about this Sunday when I teach Sunday school at our church.

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Last week we talked about how we got our Bible, how when it was penned by the authors it was copied and distributed widely very quickly and this is good because it means

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God preserved his word in the manuscript evidence because it means that it one copy of like say the

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Gospel of Mark wasn't in one person's hands where it could have been changed and we would never known because of the fact that it's spread so quickly we have essentially 10 ,100 pieces for a 10 ,000 piece jigsaw puzzle so we know we have the original readings and there's so much wrapped up in that and the good news to trust is that the manuscript evidence agrees with itself well over 98 % of the time of the one and a half some odd percent where there's variance none of it affects any of the core doctrines it's mostly spelling errors things like that there's a couple and there are there are meaningful variance that we have to deal with but it doesn't affect anything that we believe and so we went over all that and we're gonna talk about King James only ism this

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Sunday and so with King James only ism I agree with and teach the same format that dr.

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white does in his book the King James only controversy where he talks about I believe he puts it in five different categories and the five categories he uses is of course number one

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King James preferred and there's absolutely nothing wrong with this it's no different than I prefer using and preaching out of the legacy standard

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Bible I love that translation it's the one I prefer I also really like the ESV I was a longtime

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New American Standard user and I still use it from time to time but I've primarily switched to the

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LSB and if someone has used the King James their whole life and that's the one they enjoy that's the one they read out of and teach out of or they just prefer it think it's better just enjoy it no problem have at it and in fact that's that's great enjoy it nothing wrong with that the second category he would outline is you know those that would say well

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I prefer or only want to use the King James because I believe that the underlying text that was used for the

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King James is just superior or better more accurate or whatever you know that's why

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I decided to use it and okay nothing wrong with that shows that you have a deeper level of understanding of how we got our

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Bible and you've done probably some research or some reading and you say based on what

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I've looked at I just I think this is more trustworthy line and so since I you know the

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King James New King James are both translated from the same text even though the King James only is in its cult form would claim that's not the case but the reason they make that claim is because the

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New King James isn't exactly the same as the King James so they just claim it's you know could possibly have come the same you know text because it's different well actually they use the exact same underlying text the third group would be the group that would say the

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King James alone equals the Word of God alone and this is when you start getting into the cultic forms of it if you're gonna say that the

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King James Bible alone equals the Word of God alone meaning you should only use the

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King James to the exclusion of everything else so you know you ain't use the King James bless

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God you just ain't saved or you know if you ain't use the King James bless God you'll never preach in this church and they nonsense like that and you say that stuff doesn't happen yeah it does bad preacher clips on Twitter documents these things there's spend some time on YouTube trust me it's there it exists so this crowd would say you know if you use anything other than King James you don't in fact just recently

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I saw a clip from an independent fundamentalist preacher that said you know I don't understand this shittin'

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Bible convention and how they can do anything they don't even have a Bible like what and of course he's meant they're not using the

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King James therefore they don't have a Bible it's just nonsense it's not how

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God preserved his word but you know we can get in a whole lot of that kind of stuff the other group would be you know a group that would say that the underlying text of the

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King James is perfectly preserved and therefore you would have to have a Bible translated from that you know and I don't have his book on me so I remember exactly

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I might have got some of these out of order but that's the gist and so when we talk about how

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King James only ism is to be rejected and it's nonsense we're talking about the cultic form of it

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I'm not saying that some little old you know gray -haired granny that reading her King James that's all she has ever wanted to read that somehow she's nonsensical or that no we're talking about those that would say and that's thing is always funny is people always look to our reaction to King James only ism says just be no what's mean and wrong is what we're having to respond to y 'all are the ones saying if you're not using the

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King James you're at a minimum bad or not good and worse you're saying we're just flat -out not saved

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I mean if you weren't saved by the King James Bible you're not saved I mean well you're wrong it's just come on but then probably the worst form of the cultic form is the what we call the

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Rachmanite position it's the one that thinks that you know the King James is some kind of new revelation this is the crowd that would say you know it's if they wouldn't put it this way and they wouldn't agree with this but it's very in line with your

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Mormonism Joseph Smith stuff levels like golden tablets coming down from heaven it's like the

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King James was handed after all King James is the one Jesus carried around with him it was handed down from heaven and in golden cases and all this it was it was you know is you know

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I'm being hyperbolic there but you know almost like you know they think they started with a blank piece of paper and somehow

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God re -inspired his Bible that's just no so you know this is a brief overview take it for what you will if you're

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King James only us then you just prefer using it and that's the one you like fine if you attend a church that is not against other translations but they just primarily teach out of that one because that's just what they do fine and nobody's coming for your

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Bible nobody's trying to there's no conspiracy you know the conspiracy is created to fuel the cult and the cult is the one that would put limitations on Christians for absolutely no reason it's just it's you know and you hear all the things like a word you know these mission thousands and thousands of words it's just all these arguments can be dealt with have been dealt with ad nauseum by several individuals far smarter than me far more equipped to deal with it than me so just just don't don't do it don't don't don't tell your fellow believers that they're not saved or they don't have a

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Bible or they you know aren't be able to get to the I remember the John Ankerberg program way back in the mid 90s when he asked

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Sam Gipp you know so if a guy in Russia wants to get the truth of God's Word would he have to learn

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English and Sam pauses for about half a second or a second looks down looks back up and very confidently says yeah it's like that's crazy that's insanity

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Oh mercy so let's not do that come on let's just let's let's just not say anyway that's on the road for today if you don't think that King James only ism and that's cultic forms to exist you have a very nice rock you're hiding under but we need to be kind to our