Chalke Schlock and the Penal Substitution
Sunday school from March 28th, 2021
Transcript
We're going to pray and then we are going to get started Lord Jesus as we open up your word and consider the atonement and consider the sacrifice of Christ for our sins on the cross and the attacks that are
Being spoken against it. So blasphemously we pray that through your Holy Spirit We may rightly understand believe confess and walk and do according to what you have revealed in your
Holy Word We ask in Jesus name. Amen Okay The best way
I can put it is I hope you are sitting down the reason why
I hope you are sitting down is due to the fact that What you are going to hear is probably some of the most egregious blasphemy.
I've heard in a while and You know, so you keep that in mind.
Let's see. Nicole has her hand raised Okay We haven't even started the questions are coming in Bruce Burns is in the house and and Nicole beat
Beat him to it. All right, that's different. Okay, so I see what's going on here. Josh and Nikki are driving
So, oh man, please don't crash that vehicle. Okay, so let's take a look and hang on a second here
I'll check the chat just in case I'm missing anything. Oh, she says that was a mistake. Oh good Okay, that's
That's that's a that's a fine that's a fine thing to confess. Okay. So what we're gonna do We're gonna start with a blasphemous video and I need to make sure that everybody can hear this
This is a guy who is You know quite the rave in the
United Kingdom. His name is Stephen Chalk and This is from one of his chalk talks.
Let me see if I can if y 'all can hear this Hang on a second here. Well, there's no sound yet Don't harm yourself
Bruce don't harm yourself Does anyone already notice the the issue here we've got a problem.
Yes, Bruce Well, we know this Yeah Okay, okay now
Yeah, so When we parents what are we being loving when we discipline our children for doing wrong?
Apparently not right. Okay, apparently not So here's here's part of the issue and I'll kind of explain this so that you understand how this particular game is played
Which biblical text is he preaching from? none
He's taken a verse out of context from the epistle of 1st John God is love okay, and He's now using that to clobber and obliterate all other passages in Scripture He's using it as like the definitive text and anything that doesn't agree with his
Understanding of God is love has to be wrong in a previous video
I and the one that I did on how progressives use the the law of retribution the
Lex Talia honest as a as a way to Obliterate Scripture he for real this fellow claims that Moses put words in God's mouth
That what we have in the Old Testament is not the Bible isn't the Word of God it might contain parts of it, but that Moses put words in God's mouth and And so this is a fellow who is basically picking and choosing those passages that he wants to follow and so I would argue that the the text that he is preaching from we're going to call it the book of first opinions and It's his opinions and his
Misunderstandings and his rhetoric that are the problem not Scripture and then we'll take a look at some clear text along these lines
So already you can kind of get the idea this there's a problem here Let me back it up just a little bit so we can hear this blasphemy again
Homeless neighbor the Bible church -going Storch evangelical
Ned Flanders funders. I don't judge you. I leave that to a rough angry
God to do Of course many if not, most Christians learn to just live with this unthought -through
Dichotomy on one hand they believe in God's grace and goodness
But on the other One of the central acts of their faith Jesus death on the cross is bound up in God's wrath and need for appeasement
For their friends and for the rest of the world, it's all just a massive
Contradiction. It's the elephant in the room If it's true that God's anger could only be satisfied through the death of Jesus Then in fact the
God of the Bible isn't unique at all instead His thirst for blood is no different from that of countless other gods of the ancient world
Isn't God who needs a bloody human sacrifice on a cross in order to give others any different from a
God and requires The virgins have to be sacrificed on the slopes of an angry volcano That's threatening to erupt
And more than that, if this is what Jesus death on the cross was all about Then God it turns out is a slave to his own anger unwilling or unable to forgive those who've wronged or Misunderstood him without first getting his pound of flesh
Yes No That's the thing
He doesn't give us any biblical texts So when you run across somebody who believes these things and believe me when
I tell you that this is a view that is pervasive Among postmodern progressives is they absolutely loathe and abhor the idea of God's wrath
Abhor the doctrine that Christ Suffered our punishment in our place
This is known as Christ vicarious suffering or also the doctrine called penal substitution
And you're going to note that there are entire congregations who bought into this this type of rhetoric and they
For real they're slandering God Notice how he's misrepresented God with his own opinions
And these are what we call in postmodern terms deconstructing questions But again, the job of a pastor is to preach the word
And so the error doesn't lie with God the error lies with this man Again, he's preaching from the book of first opinions
And so we need to take a little bit of a look and understand then
What does scripture teach in regard to the concept of blood guiltiness as it relates to sin?
This was the whole focus of the sermon today And then we're going to note then that as English speakers and people who have
English translations of the Bible Sometimes it's a little bit more difficult for us to get at a proper understanding of how scripture describes
How sin is dealt with due to the fact that we have an English word that has its
Origin in Middle English and the term is at atonement And it for real comes from a
Middle English word at one mint And in the issue is is that You think you know what it means, but you don't
And I find the original languages to be a little bit more helpful in understanding
What's going on in the sacrifices as opposed to the term atonement
Because it doesn't readily lend itself towards getting the idea So if you remember in the sermon today
I talked about the fact that when we talk about Christ's sufferings on the cross That there are kind of two ways that we can look at it
One is in terms of expiation And that is the removing of sin from a sinner
And the other is propitiation Which has to do with God's justice being satisfied
And another word that is used in these terms is the word ransom Now when we hear the word ransom
We think somebody's being held hostage And then you get the phone call from the guy who played
Qui -Gon Jinn And he goes, I have the suitcase full of money
But you will be dead before the morning Something like this What's his name again?
Liam Neeson So when we think of ransom we think of something like that But the biblical concept of ransom coming from the
Hebrew word kapur Has a different concept to it altogether So with the little time that we have today
We're going to do a little mini study On what does God's word say in this regard And what
I wanted to do is In fact, let me do this Is let's take a look I'm going to do it this way, hang on My sermon is on my iPad
And I am not easily able to share that with everybody
But we're going to take a look at some of the concepts that we took a look at Number one, does scripture reveal that God has wrath towards sin and sinners?
Yes Is the fault with God or is the fault with us? It's with us
Now I would note, one of the things I'm kind of keen on nowadays Having been the object of protracted slander and malice against me
Is I'm pretty tuned in to the concept of Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor
And so when I go back into the account in the Garden of Eden In the
Garden of Eden you have the serpent showing up And my paraphrase of the lead off question
Is it true he's not letting you guys eat? Because his question is
Is it true that you can't eat of any of the trees in the garden? That was the original thing
And there was an implied slander against God That God is somehow evil and malicious
That he is this terrible, terrible being And that he's not even letting
Adam and Eve made in his own image eat Eve corrects him and says Well we can't eat of the tree that's in the middle of the garden
Neither shall we touch it lest we die And then the devil says you will not surely die And by inference the devil is saying
God is a liar And so over and again I'm kind of tuned in To instances where people within the visible church
Are slandering God So when Stephen Chalk says that God is a slave to his own passions
And that this is no better than a pagan deity Requiring virgin sacrifices in a volcano
That's slander And the being he's slandering is
God And so when we talk about wrath and fury We have to understand it in terms of the fact that The Mosaic Covenant is filled to bursting
With legal and judicial talk God early on in the book of Genesis is revealed as the judge
And our sin makes God the offended party And as our judge then you're going to note that If there's true sin taking place
That justice requires it to be meted out
One of the interesting Netflix documentaries That my wife and I recently watched
Was about a man back in the, was it 90s, 80s, 90s
He confessed to a whole bunch of murders That he never committed It's called
The Confession Murderer I think that's what it's called on Netflix And this is an interesting story of a guy
Who's like one taco short of a combo plate Who for real, he confessed to hundreds of murders
Across Texas, the South, all the way over to New Mexico And it turns out that the
Texas Rangers Were feeding him information about these crimes
And any crime that you gave, that you showed him information on He would confess to having committed the murder
And one particular prosecutor made up a case file A completely fictitious file
Talking, you know, created a fictitious murder victim Had crime scene photos, details about it
And this guy confessed to committing that crime But what has happened since Is that it's been proven definitively
That a significant number of the crimes That he's confessed to doing, he didn't do
Because the thing that wasn't available back then Was DNA evidence And so they kept the
DNA evidence And so they've opened up a couple of dozen case files
And reworked the cases And found he couldn't have been the murderer
Because the DNA doesn't match his DNA And now you've got at the moment
Several hundred closed cases That this fellow has confessed to committing
But there's no reason to believe He's actually committed any of these murders And the families participated
In the making of this Netflix documentary Because they want their families' case files opened
So that their murderers can be brought to justice The murderers of their families
And so you'll note that in our day and age We understand justice It is unjust when you have an entire system
That is refusing to find the real killer When there's proof that the guy who confessed to the murder
Never committed it And as a result of it These families go year after year after year
Without justice And it helps them when there is justice Because somebody they love
Has had a life taken from them So we understand justice And we understand that there's a process for it
But what's really fascinating is that People like Chalk Deny Deny That sin is of any consequence
And they claim that it is wrong for God To expect or to mete out justice
Against sinners who have rebelled against their creator
This is nonsense And the double standard is just glaring
Absolutely glaring I have yet to see any progressive theologian Demand that we empty all the prisons out
And that we just get rid of the whole justice system altogether By the way, we have a little bit of a concept
Of how that went in Minneapolis When they called to defund the police They've recently called to refund them
The woke churches are calling for the releasing of all the prisoners Yeah, I assure you that prison is not
Merely a symptom of institutionalized racism No, because the white people are the racists now
So you get the idea here That there's something seriously wrong
So let's take a look at just a couple of texts if we would And in my sermon today
I took a look at a couple of places I'm going to duplicate this tab And we started off with the preaching of John the
Baptist And I noted in my sermon today that John the Baptist Christ says that of men born of women
There's none greater than John the Baptist And he had some let's say dietary issues
And a wardrobe that was rather fascinating Kind of invokes Elijah But here's what it says that was the preaching of John the
Baptist When John the Baptist saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism He said to them, you brood of vipers
Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? The what? Wrath to come John the
Baptist is the last of the Old Testament prophets He's the first of the evangelists And what he's preaching is a message given to him by God So bear fruit in keeping with repentance
Do not presume to say to yourselves we have Abraham as our father For I tell you God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the what? Fire Who's doing the yeeting there?
That's God Yeah, the one at the end
Yeah Yeah, the smoke of their torment goes up before God Forever and ever
And ever Jesus talking and the
Jesus showing up like a wave bill So Yeah Yes Yeah, the flood is an example of God's just punishment of sinners
Right And then we'll note that even in the conquest of Canaan That God had called for certain people to be devoted to destruction as his justice against their sin
Sodom and Gomorrah is another example of that And then we'll note that the gospel of John chapter 3
John the Apostle, whom Jesus loved He always makes a point of getting in that little bit
And I always like the resurrection account from John's gospel Because John was the youngest of the apostles
He was a pretty young fellow, probably a teenager And guess what? He outran Peter to the tomb
He puts that little dig in there And it's like saying to Peter, you're an old man, dude But anyway
Here's what John writes So you'll note
Here we've got clear passages that talk about God's wrath And justly so against your sin and my sin
And we, the sinners who committed those sins Yes, sir Yeah To you
Yep Repent Yep Yeah Tacitly calling
Jesus a liar Because Jesus does invoke the wrath of God Yes Yeah And yeah, you're right
The conclusion is you have to check out the whole religion And that video is from a series of videos
That he put together calling to reform Christianity And one of his reforms that he wants to see
Christianity overhauled Is the removal of the doctrine that Christ died for our sins
In any kind of a punitive manner And that God has wrath He's calling for the church to reform itself
And get rid of this concept of the wrath of God altogether 33, yeah
Oh, it just gets progressively worse Yeah Right And it's all based on his opinions
He's preaching from first opinions He may have been taught well
But he may have apostatized and rejected it Yeah Yeah And these are
Chalk is with McLaren And the former emergents Paget and Jones And a whole bunch of other people
Like the late Rachel Held Evans All calling for Christianity to reform itself
By getting rid of this doctrine of God's wrath altogether Or we're better than God We're more moral than he is
In my country Because I know we've got an international audience In my country I've listened to the same progressives
Who say God can't have wrath Call for the death of political people
Who may or may not have a chair In my country For four years
Heads on spikes You know Calling for executions Burning in effigy
And so they believe in wrath They're just fine with wrath
They just think they're above wrath Like they're above God And this is terrifying
If you believe something else that Jesus said That you will be judged by the measure you use
Yes, indeed I think that's a great point And this would be an example of what We in the confessional
Lutheran tradition Refer to as a form of enthusiasm Enthusiasm is a word that means
God within -ism And Adam and Eve Eve became an enthusiast
Rather than listening to the external word of God That said, do not eat of that tree She looked inside of herself
And went completely on feelings It looked good It was a light for the eyes Good to make one wise
All of these decisions were made based on her feelings So enthusiasm takes on two forms, though You have enthusiasm of the heart
And the emotions And then the second form is enthusiasm of the mind Where your thoughts, your reasoning
Stands over the Scriptures And anything that doesn't fit the Procrustean bed
Of your thoughts and your opinions In Scripture gets cut out
Alright? Yes, David Yeah Yeah, we need to know
Yep Yep Yep Yep And here's the thing
When you point out these texts They have no choice but to say Well, that was what Paul said
Or that was what Moses said Or that's what John said And so what they're basically saying tacitly
Is that these words from Scripture That talk about the wrath of God That they are not
God's words They are a mischaracterization of God Yeah Yeah Yep Yeah, that would be
Thomas Jefferson Yep Yep Yep So here's where I'm going to reel in the conversation here
So we can focus back on the Scriptures Yeah But good conversation, by the way Good input I would note there's another text here
And then we'll take a look at some others Paul writes in Romans 2 Because of your heart and empathy
You are storing up wrath for yourself On the day of wrath When God's righteous judgment will be revealed
And so as Bruce pointed out That the ELCA claims that the Bible contains the Word of God And it's a very slippy, loosey, fuzzy
Non -definable term As to when you know you have the
Word of God or not It's similar to Mormonism Mormonism, they believe that the
Bible is the Word of God With this kind of caveat They'll say the King James Version of the
Bible is the Word of God And it's correct insofar as it's correctly translated And what that means is that any doctrine in the
King James Bible That contradicts Mormon doctrine Is not correctly translated It is so much fuzzier
Yeah Yep So you're going to note here Paul says that the day of wrath is
God's judgment And note the word here Diakrisaiah It's quite the word
Talking about judgment This is a judicial term God's wrath is revealed in righteous judgment
Courtroom language Then he will render each one according to his works
To those who by patience and well -doing Seek the glory and honor and immortality
This is only accomplished by grace through faith, by the way He will then give eternal life But those who are self -seeking
Who do not obey the truth But obey unrighteousness There will be, what?
Wrath and fury Scripture is clear on this But the thing is that this is kind of the bad news portion of Scripture I mean, this is the ultimate conclusion of the bad news
Persistent sin and unbelief And what you get to face at the end of the line
Is a very unhappy judge Who is full of wrath and fury
And will mete out justice against your sin And this is where we have to pay attention then
To how Scripture describes Christ's work on the cross And here's the other thing In liberal circles
In progressive circles They talk about what they call Atonement theories
Okay, atonement theories This is their other slippy, non -definable term
Which basically says that Oh, the belief that Christ suffered
Vicariously your punishment on the cross That's an atonement theory
And they reject that theory And so they embrace other theories
Like Christus Victor or things like this And so they're always using the phrase atonement theories
To basically use that as justification To deny what the clear texts say And we need to be very careful here
Because Scripture doesn't reveal a theory Regarding what
Christ did for us on the cross And how he accomplished our reconciliation to God Scripture doesn't give us a theory
Scripture reveals the mechanism by which this took place And so we do not believe in atonement theories
And here's the important part too Is that Scripture uses several different Major revelational motifs
In describing the work of Christ on the cross The best way to put it is What Christ accomplished is so deep
That no one motif captures the entirety of it
And so the theologians that I was trained under They always described Christ's work on the cross
Via the atonement As a multifaceted diamond If you were to think of it
A diamond has facets You look at a diamond But the central facet is always called The table of the jewel
Penal substitution Christ suffering your punishment and mine Suffering the wrath of God in our place
That is the center That is the center point of the jewel That's the central facet Otherwise known as the table of the jewel itself
That's the best way to put it And here's the idea Anybody who's playing the shell and pea game
Of atonement theories And say well I reject that one But I like this one Avoid that person like the plague
Because they're playing a game In order to be biblically accurate You embrace all of the motifs
All of the ways in which Scripture Reveals what Christ accomplished on the cross And you do not exclude them
So I recognize that That penal substitution is the center facet
Of the atonement But it is an incomplete picture of it And so we do have
Christus Victor We also have ransom We have other ways in which Scripture Describes these things
And the idea then as a pastor As a Christian I don't reject one in favor of the other
Because I think it's unseemly For God to have wrath I think it's unseemly for you his creature
To heap guilt on God And to slander him In that way
When Scripture so clearly says That the righteous judge Judges righteously
And if there's wrath and fury For the impenitent Then we will never be able to Point a bony finger at God and say
You are unjust God In punishing sinners In fact if anything
God has been ridiculously patient with us He doesn't will that any should perish
And anyone who does perish It's their fault Not his It was their will
Not his will that was done In that regard And that's the issue So in that then
Let's take a look at Probably one of the more difficult passages in Scripture And we're going to take a look at Leviticus 16
As it relates to the day of atonement And you're going to note what happened here
Kind of the mitigating circumstance With the establishment of the day of atonement
Was that Aaron's two sons Offered strange fire to God Did not follow the prescribed worship rules
According to the Mosaic ceremonial laws And God burned them up And they died
And Aaron wasn't even allowed to leave his post He had to keep at his post offering sacrifices
And so now we've got a big issue The issue of other sins that have to be dealt with And so this is where this comes into play
The day of atonement with its establishment And it's tricky to kind of work through How this works in the types and shadows
But let me give you some texts That I think are going to be important here If you were to do a search for He shall bear his iniquity in the
Torah Then you'll see This is a concept When we talk about sacrifices of the
Old Testament It's a question of who's bearing the sin So Leviticus 5 .1
If anyone sins that he hears a public adjuration to testify And though he is a witness Whether he has seen or come to know the matter
Yet he does not speak He shall bear his iniquity
And iniquity here You could translate that also as guilt He shall bear his own guilt
If anyone sins Doing any of the things by the Lord's commandments They ought not be done Though he did know it
Then he realizes his guilt He shall bear his iniquity So it's always a question of Who's going to bear the guilt?
Who's going to bear the punishment if you would? So that's one concept along these lines
And then here's another one that's really important Because you'll note that throughout the Mosaic Covenant There over and again
Is a requirement regarding blood In order to eat an animal To consume it
You have to drain all of its blood Why? For the life of the flesh is in the blood When an animal is sacrificed
What happens to the blood of that animal? That blood is taken and is sprinkled
Is splattered against the sides of the altar Or on the horns of the altar And on the
Day of Atonement Where is the blood taken? It is sprinkled on the top of the mercy seat Which is the lid of the
Ark of the Covenant And so all of these things are important Because when we talk about Life is in the blood
This is where we see some of the Substitutionary work being done And the reason is this
Is that when we talk about atonement Let me see if I have that open When we talk about atonement
In the Old Testament The English word atonement Doesn't help us that much The Hebrew word behind it
Oftentimes in the Mosaic Covenant Is the Hebrew word kapur And listen to what this says
Kapur means a price for ransom of a life The idea is this
Is that when we talk about ransom We're not talking about hostage situations here What we're talking about Is one life for another
So in the Mosaic sacrificial system Which is a type and shadow
And we learned in our covenant lecture Last week That without the shedding of blood
There is no forgiveness of sins But the blood of goats and bulls
Never made anyone perfect We're made perfect by the
Once for all sacrifice of Christ Without the shedding of blood There is no forgiveness of sins So kapur here, the ransom here
Is the idea of one life for another And here's the thing
Even in our jurisprudence Here in the United States In fact, all of Western civilization
In our legal codes It is possible for an innocent person
To vicariously take on the guilt of another And suffer in their place
That's actually part of our legal system That is an established part of our legal system
That's been there for a long, long, long time So this is already an established thing
Within our judiciary Something that we should take into consideration So the idea then is that at its heart
What we see in sacrifice Is the transference of sin
To an animal who's then slaughtered And through his slaughter
That what happens is this God's justice is meted out Because that life of the animal
Was taken instead of the life of the human being That's the idea And then the other part of it
Is that you've got to remove the guilt from somebody And so that's all wrapped up in the transference The imputing to the animal the sins
Who then suffers in the place And here's the other part And this is the part a lot of people do not get That on the daily sacrifices that were required
Like sin offerings and things like this It wasn't the priest who killed the animal It was the worshipper who brought the animal for sacrifice
So as part of the way the atoning sacrifices worked In the
Mosaic Covenant You had a sin offering You bring in a lamb, a spotless lamb And then part of it is that you press your hands
And you press them hard On the forehead of that animal Signifying your sin is now imputed to that animal
And then you are the one who takes the life of that animal Now those of us who live in western civilization
I've never killed an animal like that Never I mean I've killed spiders and bugs and things like this
But you're going to note that part of the worship of Israel Was that the sacrifice then dies in the place of the sinner
That's what ransom refers to And why? Because the life of the animal is in the blood
The blood is then taken to the altar And is sprinkled on the altar
And God's justice is fulfilled Because one life was taken
So that the other can live That's the concept behind it So on the
Day of Atonement In scripture In Leviticus 16 We're going to pay attention to some of these details
It says the Lord spoke Yahweh spoke to Moses after the death Of the two sons of Aaron When they drew near before Yahweh And they died
Let me close up my Hebrew lexicon here There we go And Yahweh said to Moses Tell Aaron and your brother not to come
At any time to the holy place Inside the veil before the mercy seat That is on the ark
So that he may not die For I will appear in the cloud over the mercy seat But in this way
Aaron should come into the holy place With a bull from the herd for a sin offering And a ram offering and a burnt offering
He shall put on the holy linen coat And shall have the linen undergarment on his body And he shall tie the linen sash around his waist
And wear the linen turban These are the holy garments So on the Day of Yom Kippur The Day of Atonement This is a big deal
Everything has to be atoned for The altar has to be atoned for The garments
The high priest has to be atoned for Before the actual sacrifice For sins of the people
So everything has got to be purified And he shall take from the congregation
Of the people of Israel Watch this Two male goats for a sin offering One ram for a burnt offering
So here we've got an interesting thing Going on here And the two male goats
You have to see them as a unit Because the one represents the expiation
The removal of sin from the people While the other represents the blood sacrifice
That then ransoms the people And reconciles them to God The two together are one unit
And this then is played out in Christ's trial And you'll see this in a little bit
So Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering For himself And shall make atonement for himself
So you're going to note here That first things first Aaron's got to make He's got to offer sacrifices for himself first Before he's worthy to offer the sacrifice
On the day of atonement Christ himself didn't need to do this Then he shall take two goats Set before Yahweh At the entrance of the tent of meeting
And Aaron shall cast lots over the two goats One lot for Yahweh And the other for Azazel Azazel is a little difficult to kind of get
Probably it's not a bad idea But it may not be totally accurate To say one's for the devil That's kind of the idea here
And so Aaron shall present the goat On which the lot fell for Yahweh And use it as a sin offering
And here this one's going to be slaughtered The goat on which the lot fell for Azazel Shall be presented alive before Yahweh To make atonement over it
That he may be sent away into the wilderness And so one deals with propitiation
The one that dies And the one that lives Deals with expiation The removing of the sin from the actual people
So Aaron shall present the bull As a sin offering for himself Shall make atonement for himself
And for his house He shall kill the bull As a sin offering for himself And then he shall take a censer
Full of coals of fire From the altar before Yahweh And two handfuls of sweet incense Beaten small
And he shall bring it inside the veil And put the incense on the fire Before Yahweh That the cloud of incense
May cover the mercy seat That is over the testimony So that he does not die So you're going to note
This particular ritual Which will then take the high priest Behind the curtain
Into the Holy of Holies If he doesn't get all the details right He's dead
It's always dangerous When the presence of the Holy God Is in close proximity to sinners
Any little misstep Results in death This is part of the reason why
The high priest then Had as a standard practice That when they would go behind the curtain
That they would wear jingle bells On the bottom of their vestments And have a rope tied around One of their ankles
So the idea is That we know you're still alive Because we hear Chink, chink, chink, chink, chink, chink
But if you hear chink, chink And the chink, chink stops Then you take the rope
And you pull him out Because he's dead That's the idea So he shall take some of the blood
Sprinkle it On the front of the mercy seat On the east side On the front of the mercy seat He shall sprinkle some of the blood
With his finger seven times Then he shall kill the goat Of the sin offering That is for the people
And bring its blood Inside the veil And do with its blood As he did with the blood of the bull
Sprinkling it over the mercy seat In front of the mercy seat Now, without the shedding of blood
There is no forgiveness of sins Christ is then our sin offering He also is the one
Who removes our sin from us But you're going to note We read in the covenant portion
Of Hebrews last week That Christ entered Into the holy places Not made with hands
With his own blood Sprinkled his own blood On the real mercy seat
And you'll note that He is our high priest He's also our sacrifice So the sacrifice here
Is that picture then Of how Christ is the one Whose blood ransoms us
He dies in our place So that we can live He's the sacrifice
And he's the sin bearer Thus he shall make atonement For the holy place
Because of the uncleanness Of the people of Israel And because of their transgressions And all of their sins And so he shall do
For the tent of meeting Which dwells with them In the midst of their uncleanness No one may be In the tent of meeting
From the time he enters To make atonement In the holy place Until he comes out And has made atonement For himself and for his house
And for all the assembly of Israel Then he shall go out to the altar That is before Yahweh Make atonement for it
You have to make atonement For the altar And he shall take Some of the blood of the bull And some of the blood of the goat
And put it on the horns Of the altar all around And he shall sprinkle Some of the blood on it With his finger seven times
And cleanse it And consecrate it From the uncleanness Of the people of Israel And then when he has made
An end of atoning For the holy place And the tent of meeting And the altar Then he shall present
The live goat And Aaron shall lay Both his hands On the head of the live goat
And confess over it All the iniquities Of the people And all their transgressions And all their sins
And he shall put them On the head of the goat And send it away Into the wilderness By the hand of a man
Who is in readiness And the goat shall bear All their iniquities On itself And to a remote area
And he shall let the goat Go free in the wilderness Now, what is all that about?
This is the second aspect then When we talk about What Christ has accomplished On the cross He's removed our sin from us
And scripture says God has cast him As far as the East Is from the West And so this goat then
Represents that concept So here you've got The atoning sacrifice The blood sacrifice
That ransoms one life For another life So that we can live And then also the removing
Of sin from us And this plays out So interestingly then In our gospel accounts
Of Christ's trial A good way to think of it Is Barabbas He's the fellow
Who gets to go free Why? He was a murderer Why?
Because his sin Was taken off of him That's the idea So now at the feast
Pilate used to release For them one prisoner For whom they asked And among the rebels In prison
Was one who had Committed murder It doesn't say he was Alleged to have done it It says he committed murder
So this is a convicted murderer And in the insurrection And the man was called
Barabbas Interesting name by the way Barabbas means Son of the
Father Let that one sink in for a second Barabbas means
The son of the father The son of the father Goes free Right The play on words
Is just unmistakable When you consider the details So the crowd came up And began to ask
Pilate To do as he usually did for them And he answered them saying Do you want me to release For you the king of the Jews?
For he perceived That it was out of envy That the chief priest Had delivered him up But the chief priest Stirred up the crowd To have him release for them
Barabbas instead The son of the father And then Pilate again said to them Then what shall I do With the man you called
The king of the Jews? They cried out Crucify him So Christ is then the sacrifice
While Barabbas in some way Kind of gives a connecting Back to the scapegoat
The one that's sent off Into the wilderness The idea here is That goat always symbolized
The removing of sin From the people Well in Barabbas' case Since Christ is going to the cross
And is his blood sacrifice And is dying in his place That means the murderer
Gets to go free That means you get to go free Because we're not alleged sinners
We're convicted sinners And so the tie -ins To the day of atonement Are absolutely amazing
When you stop And you consider the details So Barabbas was released
Jesus is scourged And then delivered over To be crucified That's the idea So let me come back then
To our questions in our chat I've got to watch my time here Let's see here Alright So the bloody cross
Has another component to it I find based on the stark visual Of Christ's suffering That is the visual of the cross
Being a giant mirror Raised among us Also to show who we are collectively Mankind and what is our sin
Absolutely, Tony That's not a bad way to think Of the cross Because you see
Christ Literally in your place And then the other aspect I would even go
A little farther out from that Go to the two adjacent crosses One on Christ's right And one on his left
And this is like The quintessential example And be brought down To a pin sharpness
Of humanity's response To Christ's sufferings On the cross You either scoff at Christ And you mock him
Or you trust in him And you cry out to him To have mercy And to remember you And so it's
And here's the fun part Is that where Christ is crucified Is at the threshing floor
Of Ornon the Jebusite If you know your Old Testament Christ is crucified
At the same place That used to belong to a fellow By the name of Ornon the Jebusite And it was a threshing floor
Where wheat and chaff Were separated from each other So the cross becomes, if you would
The place then Of where the judgment And where the separating
Of the wheat and the chaff Comes down to Do you cry out to Christ In mercy Or do you mock him? Do you ask for him
To remember you Or do you say Save yourself, Jesus And save me While you're at it Right?
That's another picture So you can kind of move on Beyond that All right So what about the use
Of a Septuagint verse Of Isaiah 53 -10 That they used to say God didn't pour out
His wrath on his son It says It pleased him To cleanse him From his wound
I would always And again point out That the Septuagint Is a translation It is not the original text
The Hebrew is clear on this And I would argue If I could give you a book
On this That addresses that topic Specifically And I think does a pretty good job
Let me hunt this down Real quick here I've got to open up my
Kindle There's a recent book out Called Atonement and the
Death Of Christ By William Lane Craig He deals specifically
With that I would get William Lane Craig's book On this Because he addresses The Septuagint issue
Quite straight up And it's a little bit More complicated Than I can get into With the little bit of time
That I have left But you get the idea So Tony says Indeed how wonderful Underpainting sows through To a final image
Indeed, indeed All right So then The idea then If you really want to talk
About penal substitution And this is where I'm going to leave off With my time I'm going to go to PirateChristian .com
And I'm going to put a link To an article That I wrote a few years ago Actually it was
One of my seminary papers And Let's see here And I wrote it
Against Tony Jones And I got a hundred on it Which was nice Penal substitution
Let's see here Give me a second here And this would be
This would be a good article To kind of get you in So There's two articles here
By the way All of them claim This is ridiculous They all claim that Penal substitution is
Something late in Christian history And it's not So the name of the article Debunking Postmodern Liberal Claims That Penal Substitutionary Atonement Didn't exist until A thousand years after Christ And that's the article
I'm going to put this over here In the chat And Where is the chat?
Hold on a second here Chat There we go And This would be a more
Extensive look At these concepts Which I think will be helpful And then also
I did put an article An article together Looking at the writings
Of the church fathers Specifically So these are just quotes Directly out of the church fathers
That all affirm Penal substitution So their claim is That this was something
That was Oh yeah The Williams in the shack Is vehemently opposed To penal substitution
So Yeah But those two articles I think would be Good and helpful for you
And help fill out Some more information But I have to go Because I have another Palm Sunday Passion Sunday thing
To Service to take care of So Lord willing We'll see you next time Everybody Peace And no
Sunday school next week On Easter Sunday But we do have The Easter service At 10 a .m.