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Important stuff going on. You may have seen the video that's made rounds in the media of a young Christian man preaching and reading the

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Bible at an event with people who refer to themselves as Queens. Yes.

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Queens. Not of England. Yeah, not very good Queens. Not of England. No, but reading the

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Bible now on American soil apparently can get you arrested. And so we have some special guests with us today, and so let's bring them on.

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What's up, boys? Welcome to Apologia Radio. Hey, good to be with you guys. All right, so that you guys may recognize right there.

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Let's have you guys introduce yourselves. I mean everyone knows Jason Storms. Everybody. Everybody. Okay, but who do you got with you,

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Jason? All right. Hey, I'm Nick Pro. I was arrested last year for reading the

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Bible, and someone actually stole my Bible, and they ripped up the pages. So by God's grace, you know,

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God did a... He used Ben's ice loft from the Daily Wire to publish that story, and it got pretty big.

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So we praise God that the gospel was able to go out in that area, so. Good. And I'm Marcus.

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I was arrested a week and a half ago now, and that was me in the video reading the

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Bible on the sidewalk outside of that event, and the officers tried stealing the mic from me.

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Didn't even talk to me, and then they arrested me, so. Yeah. Well, thank you guys for your faithfulness.

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Just for the viewers right now who haven't seen it, let's go ahead and get to that video. Jason, were you filming this video? Yeah, that was me filming.

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So we were all out there. You could hear his voice. Fifty young people from a handful of different churches joining about 200 people that were protesting the event, so it was pretty powerful.

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All right guys, here's the video. But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another.

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They say we can speak out here on the sidewalk freely. You can speak, but there's no amplification.

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Nobody told us that. How come there's no amplification?

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You guys are acting like thugs, man. You're acting like straight -up thugs. He has every right to be out here engaging in speech.

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He has every right to be out here engaging in speech. There's cars driving by with their radios playing.

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That's amplified sound. People are standing out here with radios. That's amplified sound. The ordinance has to do with a decibel gauge.

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You don't just get to pick and choose which amplification you like and which you don't. That's selective enforcement of the law.

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That's discrimination on the basis of speech. That's what you all just did. Content -based discrimination based on speech.

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Walk away, because you know you just did wrong. You will lose that case and you will get sued because you just trampled on somebody's

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First Amendment rights like a bunch of thugs. Bad enough you're protecting a bunch of pedophiles.

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Shame on you. Sickening. Disgusting. All right, there you go.

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So, wow, that was intense. Walk away, because you know you just did wrong. That's right. Thank you, Jason, for being so bold and straightforward with those tyrants.

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Yeah, what else can you say? All right, Marcus. So tell us what happened there. What was going on? Lead us into it.

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Yeah, so that was our first time all day using amplification. I took the amplification, put it on the sidewalk right outside the fence.

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They had a fenced -in area for their event. And so I was outside of the fence, outside of their permitted area for their event, on the public sidewalk, and I started reading from Galatians 5, which isn't even a passage about homosexuality.

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It's just a passage about love, what true love is, because that word gets thrown around a lot in that community.

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What is love? And so, you know, it's a passage that talks about love being the fulfillment of the law, that God's law is the definition of true love.

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And so that's the passage I was reading from, and right there, the beginning of that video was actually the beginning of me using the amplification.

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So it was that quick that the officers came around, surrounded me, and without saying anything to me, they just grabbed the mic.

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And I was asking the officer who was grabbing the mic for me, you know, is there an ordinance I've broken? I was trying to figure out why is he just coming up and seizing my property?

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And as I was trying to figure out what he was doing, an officer from behind grabs my arm, handcuffed me, and then took me away, and they detained me for about an hour.

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And you guys were cursing them out and being nasty and foul, right?

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No. Were you guys physically abusing them, assaulting them, getting their faces? No. Just had a pair of nunchucks, but yeah.

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No, nothing. What would have led, in a sane world, to these men doing what they did?

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I mean, was there anything that you did to show disorderly behavior other than simply being there and testifying as a

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Christian, speaking out against something? I mean, was there anything that they could have used to say you're being disorderly?

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No, not in that context, Jeff. What I think had happened is, you know, this was later in the day. We had been out there for probably six, five, six hours at this time.

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This was at the onset of their second dance, drag queen dance, for children.

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They had one, they had a Bible, or not a Bible, they had a drag queen story hour that they did earlier.

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Then they had a dance, drag queens dancing in front of little children, gyrating in lingerie, and they were encouraging the children, as young as two and three and four years old, to take dollar bills and run them up on stage and give them, put them on the drag queens, right, who are gyrating in lingerie here.

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And so this was the second one, the second dance, dance -off that they had. So this has been a long day of a lot of activity, and we had a lot of people who had gone in the park.

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It was open to the public, so we had a large number of people going in the park. They were praying, sharing the gospel, conversing with people.

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Many of them had been kicked out. Nick was actually grabbed and detained and hauled out of the park earlier while he was simply filming the activities in some ladies, using the term, being generous, got in his face and were shoving him around, and the police escorted him out of there.

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So the law enforcement, of course, we were repeatedly asking them why were they not enforcing our Wisconsin statutes about the sexualization of children?

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And so I think that there was this, there was this intensification on the part of law enforcement where they were clearly under conviction of sin, clearly disturbed, many of them, by what they were seeing taking place in the park, and they were told, of course, by the city officials, the mayor on down, that this was a, this drag queen event was protected and going to be sanctioned, promoted, and that their job was to see to it that this drag queen event continued on.

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And so by the time Marcus, you know, they kind of moved all of our people out to that sidewalk outside the fenced area, and as we're all out there, you know, he starts the amplification up and they jumped on him, so.

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Unbelievable. Yeah, we've been there before ourselves, outside the abortion mills, dealing with police officers who are working together with the city and with Planned Parenthood and the other organizations to have us arrested and trying to use the noise ordinance laws that are, you know, available to them in the city of Tempe.

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And so there's a video of us out there with Tempe Police Department, who is actively working to find ways to arrest me and arrest us.

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We found out for months through a Freedom of Information Act that they are working with the business owners trying to preemptively find a way to get us arrested.

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And yeah, we knew they were coming out one day and we had everything ready to go. We had the cameras fired up.

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We had all the court cases. You can't shut down speech or call it disorderly because you don't like the content.

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That's already been ruled on, of course, and and yeah, that calls caused no small stir for us in the city of Tempe.

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For about six months after that, they were working to find a way to arrest me to pay us back for the video that was viral of their officers abusing us, which

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I hope is happening now. With this video, do we have a lot of people contacting that police department and demanding justice?

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Yeah, absolutely. They've been getting flooded to the point that they shut their phones off and just shut down their communications.

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They were getting so avenged. You know, this video went viral immediately and was picked up by major news outlets.

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And the public sentinel, Ben Ziesloff, did a great job reporting it and getting the facts out there.

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And it's just picked up all over. Fox News ran actually two stories on it. The Blaze, Not the

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Bee, a who's who of conservative outlets picked this up and began to run with it. I think we calculated, what, 80 million views on that thing on social media.

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And in every one of those threads, there was just a litany of comments just outraged.

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You know, how is this happening in the United States of America, that this drag has been as protected, a young man reading the scriptures is arrested, you know, the contrast couldn't be any greater there.

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And so there's been an avalanche of calls and emails and outrage. And the city of Watertown is feeling the heat.

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Yeah, good. So that would be where we want to direct people as well. They would contact the city of Watertown Police Department, correct?

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Yes. Is that what they would contact? City of Watertown Police Department contact. Make sure you let them know that you're disgusted by the behavior of these tyrants and their unlawful behavior.

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But I think this is a really the great gift we have today is that we have the technology to be able to film when these violations occur.

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So, for example, in our case in this year's, I'm so glad you guys, it's getting out there the way that it is.

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In our case, we were able to put a camera up a week after the police had roughed up somebody else for doing nothing more than simply calling out to women at an abortion mill, nonviolent, you know, no reason whatsoever to on a public street with lots of traffic, lots of noise.

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And but there was no camera that day. And so the police took full advantage, stole his property, arrested him, charged him with a crime, all that.

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But when we showed up, we had the cameras on. And so the public was able to see it and to complain. And from what

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I understand, the main officer involved in our contact was wasn't let go. So I hope that occurs in this case, too.

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Marcus, why did you do this? I did it primarily because this is what

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Christians have done for all of history. They've gone to the darkest places of culture and brought the light of the gospel there.

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They've protected children countless times throughout all of history. They've protected children from being abused, from being perverted.

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You know, Amy Carmichael, she goes into the culture in India and she's rescuing girls from temple prostitution in the way that they were using children back then for their sexual gratification.

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And, you know, Christians throughout all of history have seen the importance of bringing the lordship of Christ into the public square and showing that if we have a culture that's going to sexualize our children, that if they're going to have a culture that is going to take the innocent minds around us and try to pervert their minds and bring them along this path that's going to lead them to hell, then we're going to be there as Christians with the truth to stand in a way to try and protect these children.

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We're going to seek justice. Marcus, how old are you? Nineteen. Dude, you're seriously my hero, brother.

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The future is bright. You're my hero, man. Praise the lord for God's work on you, dude. Seriously. Seriously, man. Praise the lord for that faithfulness.

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All glory to God, of course. But thank you. Thank you so much for standing up and doing what's right. And you kept yourself under composure, because,

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I mean, just as a man, we all recognize that when you know you're being tyrannized, when you know you have thugs and men abusing their authority, and they walked up to you and grabbed that microphone the way they did aggressively, not attempting to de -escalate, being totally unprofessional and manhandling you.

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I think the natural instinct all of us have is to fight back and defend ourselves, because you know they're wrong.

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So before God, God would agree with you and say, thumbs up, they're wrong, they're evil right now. And so your first response as a man, your first inclination is to defend yourself and fight back.

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But you did a really good job of just staying calm, staying peaceable, and allowing them to do this foolish activity to you, so that once and for all, at least in their case, you can make sure that the law is set against them, and that they're going to see punishment for this.

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And I fully believe, with everything that's on this video and everything that we see here, is that you're going to have justice.

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I trust God for that. I hope there's justice. And there will at least be justice in the eyes of the public.

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Because this was totally evil, absolutely tyranny, total violation of the law, and you did what was right before God, and God has glorified

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Marcus, so man, I'm happy for you and thankful for you. Well, I mean, I will say, like, it was just like this proud moment as like an older Christian man to look at a godly young man who loves the

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Lord and is standing in the authority of Christ and is being bold and being self -controlled and being a real man.

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And I'm not trying to flatter you here, I'm saying it's genuinely an encouraging and inspiring thing for us to keep fighting and keep pouring into the culture and keep pouring into young men.

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And I would only have just one, one suggestion. Next time that there's a possibility you may get arrested, don't wear

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Waffle House sandals. He was ready for prison already. Because there's so many posters that could be made to inspire young men of, like,

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Marcus with hands behind his back and all glory to God. But we'll have to cut, like, the legs off in the picture, because you're wearing

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Waffle House sandals. Right. You don't like Waffle House. Well, you know, if you want to get into a fight,

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Waffle House is a great place to go hang out at 2 a .m. and, you know, test your skills. Test your might.

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Jason, your son was the one holding the amp too, correct? Yeah, that was my son. They didn't do anything to him?

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Nope, nope. Thankfully. They still have our speaker in custody, but he needed that for evidence.

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Yeah. Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the law state that they need to give you a warning first and an accusation of an actual crime before they arrest?

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Yeah, yeah. And they're claiming they gave us ample warnings because of the interactions we had with them inside the park.

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Nick was told no amplification inside the park. He had a speaker in there, and they said you can't use that. So, you know, of course, we went outside as we brought that outside the fenced in area on the public sidewalk, you know, okay, we're good.

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They literally said, you know, keep all your stuff out there, do what you want out there. So yeah,

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I think we were under the assumption that implied, yeah, we could engage in speech, right? And so speech included in our constitutionally protected

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First Amendment speech is the ability to amplify your voice to be heard given reasonable time, place, manner restrictions, right?

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And so, certainly, I think we were within that. Yeah, and earlier too,

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I had been, so they had given me a warning, but the warning, they had explicitly told me that I was still free to go protest outside the fence.

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They just said that you can't preach inside the fence. They said, you know, you have to stay outside the fence, and as long as you're outside the fence, you're good.

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That's what they had told me. And so the only thing they had mentioned, you know, in the video, the officer's like, you know, the same speaker as before.

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The only reason he's mentioning that is because he had told us, you know, just take it outside the fence because they have a permit for this area.

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You can't have the speaker inside the fence. And so that's what we did, and there was no other warning other than that. They didn't say anything to us about amplification specifically, except that I have to be outside that fence.

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Right. So what, so for everyone watching, can you tell everyone what they charge you with?

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What's next? I'm assuming you guys will be fighting this and or filing a lawsuit.

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So how can we be praying for you? Yeah, so they, after arresting me, they, they charged me with amplification without a permit and then resisting arrest.

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And then they also gave me a notice that if I go on any Watertown public parks for the

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I will be arrested on the spot and fined with state charges and serve time in jail.

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The officer repetitively told me that. And then, yeah, so those fines for those citations.

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But we're going to try and take that to court, get the get the charges dropped, and then talk about what we can do from there to make sure that this doesn't happen again.

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And then also, this is a yearly event that they try to host in Watertown, this Drag Queen Story Hour, Drag Queen Dance Hour.

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And so this was their second annual event. You know, something that would be great to see out of this is if the mayor is contacted and told, you know, we don't want this event in our city anymore.

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I don't just want myself or my friends personally vindicated. That's not why we were out there.

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We're out there to see that children are protected. This event no longer goes forward next year. And if the mayor is unwilling to stop it, then the citizens of Watertown replace her and say this is your last term of office.

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Amen. Very good. Well, obviously, the charge of resisting arrest is just hilarious.

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Everyone can see the video. There's no resistance whatsoever. Everybody knows that tactic of tyrants and cops that abuse their power is they will grab you and they just start repeating, stop resisting, stop resisting, stop resisting, so they can add the charge or claim that you were resisting.

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It's just a tactic they're taught, even in police academies. Just say stop resisting and you can even claim that they were resisting arrest.

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They just immediately start saying it. They put their hands on you, stop resisting. And they can say on the record,

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I told him, I had to tell him to stop resisting because he was resisting. It's just a tactic of tyrants.

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And thank God for the video because it's obvious he's not resisting. So praise the Lord for that.

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You know, Marcus, when this came up on my feed initially and I saw it and I recognized Jason's voice, you know,

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I had a Bible study that I was leading that night for our church and we were praying for you guys at the end of it.

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But we were going through first Peter when it talks about Christ and how, you know, when he was reviled, he didn't revile in return.

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When he suffered, he didn't threaten, but he continued entrusting himself to him who judges justly like that was

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Christ's response in the face of injustice and mistreatment. And I asked myself, man, given that situation, would

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I have responded or how would I, would I have responded? Like, I'd like to think it would be in the same way that I watched you, brother, like just measured self -controlled.

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And that's the first thing that popped into my head was that verse about Christ. And I love how you pointed out that Christianity is the very thing that liberates, you know, the dignity of human beings and in particular, the protection of children.

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I think that you guys, you know, being out there model that so well. And of course, you know, the attitude of Christ, I mean, this is what

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Christianity is all about. Christianity is not only about justice in the face of injustice, right?

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God not only says in the face of evil and mistreatment and persecution, justice, but Christianity is unique in that it's the only worldview that says in the face of injustice,

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I'll die for you. In the face of being sinned against, how did

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Christ respond? He died. He laid down his life. He didn't return evil for evil, right?

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In the face of reviling, he blessed, he loved, he laid his life down, which is the pattern that Peter says we're supposed to conform our lives to, right?

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In the face of that, we're to retrace the steps of Christ and follow the example that he has left for us as our substitute, right?

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This is the reason he's died. He's died for us to be our substitute, take our sin and we get his righteousness, but then that is all for the purpose of imitation and transformation in which we follow in his footsteps.

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And the pattern of our lives is to be suffering, dying to ourselves in hope and faith that out of obedience, like the act that you guys committed, that God will raise that to life and that it will be raised to glory.

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And that the fruit that's born from that would be myriad, right? That kernel that goes into the ground, that seed that has to die first before it can bear much fruit, like that's, when

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I watched that video, that's what I see. I see a seed going into the ground and dying. And we have no idea on the other side what the result of the fruit of that is going to be.

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There were some good moments in there with all of that said, there were some good moments in here, we're going to play for you guys, of also prophetic ministry to the police officers, challenging them and being a faithful witness to them.

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And Marcus, you also spoke at city council before this, right? Or after this? Which one was it? So I was arrested

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Saturday and then three days later, Tuesday night, I spoke before the city council.

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Oh, so it was after, okay. Because they were hosting as the city council, like this meeting, and there were a bunch of Christians there and then a handful of LGBTQ activists to testify before the city council about the events that took place at the drag queen event a few days before.

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And Jason, you said they shut down cameras during that? No, that was a subsequent. Oh, something different.

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That was actually just last night. Oh, okay. Yes, they're still reeling and still trying to regroup.

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So just to show a contrast here in terms of police engagement with Christians and how

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Christians engage in these activities, I want to show you just a quick contrast here. This is fairly recently, excuse me guys, my allergies are going crazy today, but this is fairly recently up in Canada, some of you guys have seen this.

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I hope the language has been taken out of this, but this is a trans activist attacking somebody for simply holding a sign with a message on it.

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F*** you! F*** you! F*** you! F*** you! F*** you!

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F*** you! F*** you! F*** you! F*** you! Hey! Okay.

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You see this? So it's not uncommon actually to see that kind of violent reaction from Antifa, from these pride festivals and everything else, just getting physical, attacking, and that was an instance where a man was just standing there with a sign with a message and he gets attacked by this dude with long hair wearing a dress.

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That's protected speech. Yeah, it's protected speech. Especially in Canada. And the police didn't handle that the same way I think they even handled

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Marcus' situation. Much more gracious and patient with the trans dude that attacked the guy.

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But here's an example of Jason outside of a mill in, where was this, Jason, when you confronted this young man?

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North Carolina, I believe, right? North Carolina? No, South Carolina. South Carolina. One of the Carolinas. Just an example of,

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I think, of sort of like, I'm going to show you two examples here, prophetic ministry outside these kinds of places. I'm going to say, before we play this, this video is why

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Jason's one of my heroes. Well, it's just, I think, it's the way a godly man,

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I think, needs to handle, and I'm not trying to puff Jason up, he knows that, a godly man needs, a good example of how a godly man needs to handle evil outside of a place like Auschwitz or the gates of hell here, this abortion facility.

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We are often attacked, people pull guns on us, people throw food at us, they try to hiss with their cars. The police almost never do anything to help us or to come to our assistance.

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When we have guns pulled on us, we have to like, beg and plead for the police officers to show up when an abortionist pulls a gun on us.

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But here's an example of, well, I'll let you see the video, it'll speak for itself.

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Sir, hey, you're assaulting us, that's assault there, buddy, yeah,

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I think it is, if we did that to somebody, I know you'd be crying about it, right? Yeah, pretty sure you would be, because you're called a hypocrite, yeah, you're a hypocrite.

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You don't know how to be a man, you don't have any children, do you? You can't even take care of yourself, much less a child, do you?

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Yeah, you have no responsibility, no sense of virtue, no sense of masculinity, you've been emasculated, you've been emasculated.

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You don't know how to protect women, you don't know how to protect children, you don't know how to raise children, you don't know anything about children, you don't even know why you exist, you don't even know what the biological functions of your body is.

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No, you don't, no, you don't. If we wanted to do something to this abortion clinic, you wouldn't stop us, okay? We are restraining ourselves because we're law -abiding people, okay?

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You guys are not restraining us in the least bit of way, you're not protecting this clinic, okay? You're a coward, you couldn't protect your way,

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I have a paper bag, okay? If we wanted to toss you down the hill, we'd toss you down the hill, and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it, okay? You're not restraining anybody, you're not protecting anybody, it's the fact that we are self -disciplined men, we have to restrain ourselves and abide by the law, is the reason that you haven't gotten hurt today, okay?

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Understand that? Yeah, understand that? Because you're not a man, you're a coward, you're a little boy that has not grown up.

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You've been raised in a self -centered, materialistic, consumer -driven culture. Yeah, all you know how to do is consume.

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That's all you've ever been taught how to do, consume and consume and consume, yes. You don't know how to...

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There you go. That was a mouthful of truth right there. That was. But I think that's important to demonstrate, is the level of restraint that comes from the

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Christian community at these places of death and evil, the level of restraint. But at the same time, the need for prophetic ministry, not just getting a beat down, but actually preaching the truth to the officers and to those who would attempt to abuse, to speak the truth.

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Because if you don't speak the truth, the error will never be corrected. And so, there's one good example.

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Jason, talk us through that, before I play the truella, talking to those tyrants at the

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Queen event. Talk us through that video. Yeah, that was a young avowed

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Marxist who was putting his hands on numerous people in our group as we were preaching. You know,

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I was on a ladder there. That's where Matt Brock and Kylie and other faithful brothers in Greenville, South Carolina have a witness out there.

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And so, you have to get up on this hill and they set up a ladder to preach over the fence. And of course, what the pro -abortion people say is that, you know, they'll scream at you, you're not accomplishing anything.

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Look how crazy you are. What are you doing? And it's like, well, then why are you trying so hard to stop us from doing it if it's not accomplishing anything, right?

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And they go through great lengths to try to keep us from, and Matt and those guys, from setting that ladder up and doing that.

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And they've seen many, many babies saved through that ministry, preaching the gospel out there over that fence, and women who've turned away from abortion and who've had the opportunity to lead them to Christ and get them plugged into a local church and get them the care that they need, in addition to saving their babies' lives.

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So, very effective ministry. And so, this is a very aggressive group of pro -aborts that's out there claiming to protect that clinic and claiming to protect women going into that clinic, right?

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And this guy, he had a Marxist t -shirt, hammer and sickle. He's probably never swung a hammer in his life, but, you know, he has a t -shirt on.

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But, you know, so he was saying he was going to foment Marxist revolution and they're going to destroy Christianity and all these sorts of things.

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And I was like, buddy, you know, you can't even get out of bed in the morning. You've probably never worked a full day of work in your life, and you've probably never protected a woman in any real meaningful sense.

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You can't even protect yourself, right? And so, you've just been emasculated by this culture that you think you're this paragon of moral virtue.

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And so, you know, of course, we had the opportunity. I preached the gospel to the young man and taught him, you know, you need to look to Christ as your example, not

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Karl Marx and certainly not anybody you're seeing on television, but look to Christ as the example of what a man is to be.

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And also, of course, where our salvation is found in forgiveness of sin. But, you know, it's interesting that those pro -abortion people out there, he will claim that he's out there protecting women.

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And of course, what we like to remind them is, you know, you don't know anything about the women that go to an abortion clinic. You watch the escorts that are out there.

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They don't get these people's names. They don't get to talk to them about what their issues are. They have no idea whether this woman is going in there in a domestic abuse situation.

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They usher them into the clinic, get their money, kill the baby, and then export them out.

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And they never see them again. And they have no interest in seeing them again. They have no idea what kind of problem they may be sending them back to.

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Right. Their only job is actually to protect a for -profit business. It's making money off these women that are in a crisis.

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And so, you know, we try our best to expose that, of course, and to continue to try to show love to those moms and love to those babies that are about to be murdered.

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And it's obviously a very intense ministry, as you guys know. You've been faithfully at it there in Phoenix for a long time.

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You guys are an inspiration to many around the country, including us. And so, you know, that is an intense ministry that requires, of course, for a

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Christian, great restraint. And as you said, Jeff, finding that balance between having the boldness and the courage to stand firm and yet not allow yourself to become embittered or discouraged or to lose your composure.

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It's a place where we need the Holy Spirit of God to shine through us and His grace to minister in and through us to be effective in that ministry, especially if we're going to do it long term.

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Yeah, and I think, Jason, one of the important things I wanted to do in showing that is, and Marcus and Nick, everything you guys are doing, is

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I want to hopefully encourage young men in particular to be willing to, like as Zach says, take the hits, be abused for the glory of Christ, for His kingdom, lay your life down for the sake of another, be willing to endure injustice and hostility and reviling.

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But at the same time, I think what's missed is often, you know, evangelical culture of the

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West is people will understand the sacrificial part of laying the life down and sacrifice for the sake of other and enduring injustice, but they keep their mouths silent in terms of the public square, the prophetic ministry.

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So you can do both, and Jesus did do both, even in the midst of Jesus' trial or in Jesus having people surrounding

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Him, trying to harm Him, even when He escapes out from their midst, He still tells the truth.

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He still confronts them. He still confronts their evil. And so even as a sacrifice, enduring hostility and justice,

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Jesus still speaks to their evil. He still points out their evil, and there's a call to repentance.

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And so I think that's what's important for people to see because, and here's what I mean, Jason, there's been movements, and I'm not trying to diminish the heart behind what they were doing, but there's been movements of people who will, like, put tape over their mouths outside of abortion mills and just sort of stand there with tape over their mouths, silent.

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And I'm not going to, like I said, attack their motives and everything else. I know, you know, there's probably a passion there for these children and for God, but at the same time,

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I think covering our mouths with tape in instances like this doesn't actually accomplish what the word is for in that instance.

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The word does not return void. It's a sharp sword, and it needs to be brought there. And so it needs to be employed.

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And so I think that it's that balance that you see that took place that day that I think

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I want to point to, and that's Marcus is just preaching the word faithfully, boldly, gets put into the boot of tyranny, is violated.

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He has to endure injustice, and yet he goes ultimately willingly. But you stand there,

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Jason, as a mediator and speaking prophetically against the evil of the officers. You don't minimize the sin and evil that's going on in your midst.

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You speak against it. So that's what I want, I think, hopefully Christians to see is that you have to be willing to do both. You have to be willing to endure suffering and hardship, to be abused, but also in the midst of being abused, tell the truth, right?

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Don't just be an example of suffering and being hurt, but also open your mouth, open your mouth for the mute, for those who can't open their mouths.

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And in this instance, you're opening your mouth for those children, for the glory of God, and you're enduring all of this suffering.

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Love that. And so I wanted to point to this, and I don't know, Jason, this is your father -in -law,

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Truella, he's speaking to the officers here, and it's just it's spectacular. Is this after,

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Marcus, you were arrested or is this before? This is actually before when Nick and my little sister -in -law were hauled out of the facility, they were in there conversing with people inside the event, were grabbed, hauled out, assuming they're being arrested, right?

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And they were detained, put into a detainment area on site there. And Matt followed them over and he was able to just share that with the police that had gathered.

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So this is probably two to three hours earlier in the day prior to Marcus's arrest. So, OK, so the reason

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I want to highlight this is that there's an instance in recent memory for humanity in the

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West where we have the tyranny of the SS and the Nazi regime and the fact that there were

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Christians in Germany and you had the tyranny of the government there who were abusing and violating other human beings.

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And so many people laid down for it and didn't speak up against them prophetically as a witness.

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But I think what took place here at this event is the proper balance. You know, by the grace of God, it was a proper balance.

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It was preaching boldly. It was enduring the hardship, enduring the suffering, getting arrested. But there are other

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Christians there who were speaking boldly against law enforcement and they're instructing them in the law of God. This is

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Truella talking to the officers. You tell them I'm coming and true hell is coming with me. True hell is coming with me.

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You'll notice that from time to time, men make evil through law. And that's what's happened here.

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Your mayor, the civil authorities here are joining with evil. And those of you who are lesser magistrates, you carry the guns.

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You're not just mere robots for the state. You have to answer to God also for what you do.

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So when they do something contrary to his law and word, your duty is not to obey them, but to tell them no.

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It's called the interposition of the lesser magistrate. Extremely important to understand it. Romans 13, again, for those of you officers who just arrived, makes it clear that your duty is to punish the evildoers.

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That would be the people over there that are sexualizing children. And your duty is to reward those who do good.

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That would be the people you've arrested. So you've totally perverted your

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God -given function and role, turned it on its head. And we wonder, how did evil get a foothold in Germany, in the

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Soviet Union? It was because of the blithe compliance of all the authorities, that one after another, down the food chain, said, yeah,

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I'm going to look out for myself rather than do what's right and say, no, this is wrong. And this is wrong.

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What they're doing here is evil. This would, are you kidding me?

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Do you see what's going on up in that stage? Do you see what they're normalizing this to the minds of the children?

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When you're older, these are the kids, they'll be the people who decide whether you live or die when you're elderly.

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This is what they're training them in. So you have to make a decision to either go along to get along or to some point make a stand.

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Like at the very least, you shouldn't be arresting the good guys and letting the bad guys have free reign.

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Your duty is to arrest the bad guys. There is an ordinance right here in town regarding instructing children in sexual matters.

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What do you think that's all about? They're instructing children in sexual matters.

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You could arrest them, but you chose not to. You chose to arrest the Christians who are simply out here praying and offering literature to people.

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There you go. Way to go. Amen. They want to know part of that. Praise the Lord. That's the other striking thing about this whole thing.

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It's already been pointed out. Just, I mean, you know, you're living in a society under God's judgment when good is, is exchanged for evil in this way.

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Like this deplorable, abominable activity is protected over here.

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And then the Christians just emphasizing the truth of scripture, speaking publicly, being present to pray, handing things out.

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That is a criminal activity, right? Like it's worthy to actually be detained by those that are supposed to be enforced, enforcing the law.

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But they, they've so inverted good for evil, bitter for sweet. It's obvious what is the cultural condition that we find ourselves in right now, when you can have such a subversion and an inversion of good for evil.

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Yeah, absolutely. I was going to say, there's two super chat questions that tie into this conversation really well, actually.

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If you want, send them in the prep thread. Yeah. If you want to pull it up. I have it. I can read it right here.

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Both from ANDP. Yeah. Yeah, ANDP, a regular. Can you discuss Proverbs 2010 in relation to policing and Christians protesting?

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So that's unequal weights and measures are an abomination to the Lord. So there's a, the introduction of a different standard.

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Yeah. Well, so I just, I just did a sermon two Sundays ago on Proverbs chapter 11, verse one, and it was about unequal weights and measures, of course, pulling in Proverbs chapter 20 as well.

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And it's interesting. And I think one of the best ways that people can understand unequal weights and measures is just by looking at the text.

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Literally it means unequal weights is a stone and a stone, literally a stone and a stone.

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And it had to do with when you were transacting business, you, people would defraud their neighbor by having one stone that would benefit them in the weight.

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And they would have like sort of a secret stone, a stone that would actually work better for them or better for their favorites.

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That was like a lesser stone. It was, it was, it wasn't the same amount of weight. It was a different weight in the measuring.

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And so God says it's an abomination. He hates unequal weights and measures. And that principle moves its way out of commerce and basic business transactions and being honest in business transactions.

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And it moves his way into the judicial system, the judicial process. You can't have two stones, one weight for one person and a different weight for another person.

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God calls that abomination. And that's supposed to take, that's supposed to take root in us, in our business transactions, in our personal relationships by showing no partiality, not having a favorite face, not giving one favorite face more weight than the other.

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And it's supposed to show its way into the judicial process. And of course, into law enforcement. It's a sin against God and an abomination in his eyes.

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It's loathsome and detestable to him. When an officer has one weight for one person and a different weight for another,

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God says he hates it. And that's something that will, uh, will put somebody in hell. Uh, when he calls something an abomination, to eva, loathsome to him, it's a sin he detests.

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And of course, all sin will get you thrown into the lake of fire. But we need to remember that this is no minor infraction in the eyes of God.

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Excellent. So, and then you want to read the other question? Yeah. I think there was another one by Tandy P as well.

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How does second, second Corinthian six, man, I'm stuffy too, just like you are.

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How does second Corinthian six apply to people like me who are active in the

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GOP? This is unequally yoked. I just looked it up. Right. Also, what does it have to do with dark unequally yoked?

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That's the passage I'm assuming he's referring to. Yeah. I think that would be along the lines of what he's talking about.

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And then he asks also, is the lesser of two evils in candidate selection a pervenient grace or is it unbiblical?

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I don't like the lesser of two evils argument, but I'll hang on what I think is what he's addressing. And that's the unequally yoked of unbelievers.

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And I think that's going to be important for us because that principle applies to our personal relationships, whether it's like a marital relationship, a covenantal relationship, it could be, it could be referring also as a principle towards business relationships.

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And of course, in terms of the legislative process and being a legislator, it absolutely applies.

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That principle of being unequally yoked would apply. You don't take on their standards. You don't join together with somebody who isn't committed to the same things ultimately that you are.

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And so if if you are going to be a person that engages in the legislature as a legislator, you need to be a person that has conviction that you will not compromise.

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You stand on the truth. You need to make sure that you're also a humble person, but you can be, you can live life with humble boldness.

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And you need to be like some of the legislators that we've worked with at states across the United States of America, where they are trying to be gracious.

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They're trying to be honorable. But at the same time, while they try to work with other legislators, they take stands without compromise on issues that they must.

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And they will not link themselves up with other organizations that do compromise or engage in unequal weights and measures or engage in lawlessness.

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So I would say if you're a person who's engaged in that realm, that sphere, please, God, help us help.

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Help the church to see what it looks like to be faithful in this in this culture by standing against evil and not being unequally yoked with unbelievers.

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As a principle, even in a legislature, do what's right before God. Make sure that your allegiance is first and foremost to Christ and to his supremacy.

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First and foremost in every area of life. And I'll tell you what, one of the things that we're seeing across the country right now is in certain legislatures across the country, you're seeing the committed, faithful, non -compromising believers in Christ who are submitted to his authority becoming the rising stars in those states.

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Because honestly, that's what the church is looking for. They're looking for the person that will not compromise, that will not be unequally yoked, who will stand on biblical principle and not be swayed by popular opinion or by the paycheck.

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And so we need those heroes. We need heroes like Marcus and Jason. And we need heroes to just stand for the truth and to endure hardship and speak the truth no matter the consequence.

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Yeah, I mean, I would say I actually want to hear Jason's take on this, too, because I know they've done a lot to help with legislators and stuff as well.

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I mean, our system of government, that's what God has given us, right, to operate within.

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And I would argue that it was built upon biblical principles and foundations anyways. So the process in and of itself is not,

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I would not at all consider a situation of being unequally yoked. I would say, like Jeff was saying, if, you know, if you're, to borrow

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Andy Stanley's language, if you're unhitching yourself from biblical principles in order to hit yourself up with, you know, someone that's unequally yoked, that would be an issue and a problem.

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But yeah, I mean, if you're just being in the GOP does not, I would say would not violate that passage.

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But we would ask you to just stand on biblical principles and to be courageous. Do not compromise like Jeff was saying.

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So that's my thoughts on it. I don't know. Yeah. Arizona's beating me up right now, guys. It is. It's brutal out right now.

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Now, I think from what we've been told before, too, again, I want to hear what Jason has to say about this. But coexisting in that sense, in the political process with people who aren't

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Christians, you know, there is, I see to Andy P's question right here, this question of, you know, prevenient grace or common grace.

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There's going to be some overlap where unbelievers occasionally get these things right. That's just the nature of what the

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Bible says. They stumble over justice, too, and admire that sort of thing. And where that happens, like we should be prepared as Christians to drive the issue forward.

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But we should be saying, hey, come with us. Like we're out in front is the point like we're leading the way.

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And then wherever they depart from that standard, we depart from them. Exactly. You know, because there's this there is this covenantal arrangement.

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The way that God made the world, you know, and if you're by common grace, according with that, fantastic.

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Love for you to join us. Otherwise, got to see you later. Amen. Jason, what are your thoughts on that, bro?

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Oh, man, many. No. Well, I think I think first of all, we have to say it's it's a complex issue because we're not living in a

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Christian nation, obviously. And so we live in a we live in a post -Christian culture. So where you are geographically is going to be a factor in some of this stuff.

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Living in California versus, say, if you're living in Alabama, you know, the way you're going to approach this, I think is going to be different. But, you know, we are living under the

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Constitution of the United States and under the authority of our state constitution, under the authority of our county government and our city and municipal government.

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So we are whether we like it or not, in a sense, yoked in those regards. I don't think that's what first Corinthians or second

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Corinthians rather regarding unequally yoked is referring to. You know, I think that's referring to more specifically, you could say relationships in terms of marriage and then also that the church and the relationships of the church specifically.

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So I think you have you have different realms of government and federalism where we have the federal government,

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I believe, is just absolutely off the rails in Washington, D .C. We have state governments and we have county governments.

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I think a lot of the work really needs to be done at the local level. We get too wrapped up in national politics to the neglect of state and local government where we can win, where we can actually have impact.

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So I think that's important for us to recognize, you know, that, hey, we can take over our county Republican Party and we have friends.

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You guys know Timothy, a friend of ours, that he was elected as head of the county GOP in this county.

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He's doing phenomenal work and has really, really done a lot to bring in a lot of Christians and to make what they do very explicitly

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Christian. Now, they get beat up by other county groups and they get beat up by the state party. But, you know, that's the fight.

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Sometimes I think Christians get their wires crossed a little bit, too, with regards to the role of the church versus the role of the civil magistrate, because they're not exactly the same.

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You know, what you do as a prophetic role, as a prophetic ministry, you speak the truth uncompromisingly, period.

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And as prophetic ministers, we must not waver on the truth that we speak, no matter the consequences, whether it means we lose our head or we are imprisoned.

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And then, you know, you look at the pastoral role is a little bit differently. The pastoral role you have as a pastor, a prophetic responsibility, but you also have to, after you speak forth the word of God and articulate and exegete the word of God, you have to step out of the pulpit and step down into a congregation where you have many men in your congregation who are not living out perfectly the things you've articulated from the word of God.

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And so how do you live life with those men? How do you walk alongside those men who are not necessarily leading their homes in the ways they ought to be or even living, you know, in terms of their business affairs, the way they ought to be?

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So there's that discipleship role where you're having to walk alongside men who are dirty and they're not living in perfect obedience to the word of God.

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And so that's the pastoral heart of ministry. And that's different from the role of a civil magistrate as a legislator in a legislative arena where you are trying to represent the truth of God's word and fight evil.

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There's, again, a little bit of a different toolkit there that's involved. And so, you know, for me, the way

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I break it down in terms of the lesser of two evils, of course, you could argue that these guys are all evil. And so you've got to support somebody.

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We're going to live under an evil system, period, in some respect. So to me, I think what I look at is how do we do the best to limit and restrain evil, you know, within the

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God -given scope of our government to restrict and restrain evil? How do we do the best with that? I didn't vote for George Bush.

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I didn't vote for Mitt Romney. I didn't vote for John McCain. I did vote for Donald Trump. Maybe you guys disagree with me on that.

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The reason I could vote for him and not vote for those other guys is because where I sort of draw those lines, I think that there's a certain amount of space within the consciences of Christians to figure that out and flesh that out is to me,

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I see the big evil is the political establishment and it's the leadership of both parties. Right. We have the

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Republican and Democrat leadership are both in bed together and they're fomenting this corrupt system that we have upon us.

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And so I'm looking for guys who will fight that establishment. I think that's the big monster in the room.

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You know, it's sort of the Turks that are at the gates that we must unite to combat and fight against. And so we have to we have to find a way to defeat this this this tyrant that is in the room lest we be devoured by it.

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And so, you know, I look for guys that are pushing back against that political establishment and doing their best to fight against that.

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And hopefully they're Christians and some meaningful sense of that term. You know, you can't always gauge whether a guy has genuinely been been regenerated by the spirit of God.

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Yeah. Yes. Yeah, no, I think in terms of for me, the principle of not being unequally yoked has a specific context and reference point in first Corinthians or second

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Corinthians chapter six. However, the principle can be broadly applied. I'm thinking in an instance like we were in, we actually viewed in the state of Louisiana where you had legislators who were professing

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Christians who were said, it's because the word of God, I'm standing in the word of God. We must obey God rather than men. And then when the things got tough in Louisiana and they started getting opposition to the bill of equal protection, they started having backroom meetings with people who were saying, no, just go along with us.

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Just let's let's run to do evil this way. Let's turn away from this justice and do this. And you had guys that were professing

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Christians that went along with the crowd and started yoking themselves up in a team in Louisiana with those who would compromise.

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And that's literally what happened. We watched them call people downstairs to a secret meeting to say, no, go along with us, falling in with the many to do evil.

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Exactly. And that is what I would say is an application of the unequally yoked in that instance, is that you have people who were professing believers, yoking themselves up with other people who were saying, let's just do injustice, come along with us to do injustice.

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We'll all have one purse. Yeah, we'll have one purse. That's right. We've been in Proverbs. That's right. Look, it's taken root in all of us.

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So, yeah, I think that principle can be applied. But yeah, it gets complicated when you talk about living in a post -Christian nation where you have legislators, legislatures that are just filled with rabid unbelievers and people who are hostile to the truth of God with believers.

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And so you have to manage that with faithfulness and without compromise. But it's tough at times because you're going to maybe be signing yes to a bill that also has a guy wearing a dress and a beard.

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But the bill is righteous. It doesn't mean you're unequally yoked with them because you're saying yes to the same bill. It means that you're doing righteous things as a legislator, even in the of an evil legislature with a dude wearing a dress.

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Which is more common than you might think. We're not supposed to do that. Just sitting before a legislature like that is a challenging experience because everything anyone wants to just simply to say, can

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I take an extra 60 seconds to talk to you right now? I'm really impressed that you had enough self -restraint because I don't know if I would have probably said something this tough.

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It's so difficult because if you can't get that right, I mean, what else can you get right? Yeah, we were in Colorado.

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That's what I said. I just said, you know, the issue here before the legislature isn't biology.

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And I was like, as is apparent here. That's all I really got in. Oh, yeah. Was a jab. And I don't honestly know if they even caught it.

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Yeah. Like, I don't know if they even caught it. I said, the issue here is not biology, as is clear from the gentleman over there, as is clear, as is clear, who's packing something under that dress.

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I can see the bump. You're not full of me, sir. Is that Missouri or where was it?

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That was Colorado. They hate me in Colorado for sure. And yeah, so, hey, we're going to go into the after show.

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We're going to go into the after show now. So for everybody who is a partner with us in this ministry, Apologia All Access, we're going to head over to Apologia Studios, continue the conversation over here with the boys over at All Access.

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Thank you to everybody who's a part of this ministry with us. We're grateful for you. Millions and millions of people have heard the gospel, been taught just this month through the labor of you working together with us here at Apologia Studios.

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So thank you. I want to also remind you all to go to get. Oh, wait, hold on. Yeah, we have to do this real fast.

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Yeah, no, I did. So by the way, by the way, I'm trying to speak through all the Arizona allergies right now.

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By the way, if you're like wondering what this is, it is not a nicotine. Yeah. Luke's just not conscious. That's the signal.

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I don't know. No victims here. This is not a nicotine patch or anything.

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This is a ion patch. This is from ion layer dot com. Ion layer dot com.

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It is an NAD patch. You guys have probably heard me talking about this the last couple of weeks because I've been on it for a while now.

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It has blessed my life. It blessed my wife's life. We don't know how. I have no real explanation for it, except that the stuff is amazing.

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She got two of her smells back that were just destroyed after a long covid. And after a couple of days of wearing this, it's

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NAD. Go look it up. Just look at all the scientific research on it. It's a chemical you already have in your body. When you have it as a young person, you have an abundance.

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It is it is if you didn't have it in your system, you'd die in 30 seconds. They call it the fountain of youth because it's something that God put into your body to help your body stay youthful, strong, young.

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It controls a ton of processes in your system. And as you get older, not that I'm old.

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Older as you get older. You're right. Maybe as you get older, you get less and less of it.

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So I've been doing this for a while. NAD through IV, which a lot of people do, is extraordinarily painful.

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Everyone knows about the torture of NAD through an IV. It's also highly expensive.

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Ion layer figured out a way to do it, to get it in your system through a medical patch. You get more NAD and it is far, far, far, far, far cheaper.

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And it'll bless it'll bless your life. It's blessing mine and my family's. Luke's been he's been getting on it. I was supposed to put it on this morning.

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I forgot. So if you're wondering what it is, go to ion layer dot com. Good, solid Christian men. I mean, I'm really godly, amazing men doing something to bless life and to extend human life and extend health.

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It's just amazing. Love these guys. If you go to ion layer dot com and you get set up, type in APOLOGIA in all caps under the coupon code, they give you a hundred bucks off.

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And so that's what that is. But I wanted to before we leave, I want everyone to see this. This is

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Marcus speaking before the city council. And I want to say, as I listened to this,

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I was like, oh, all glory to God for this young man. Praise the Lord for him and his life. And then

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I was also going, I think he's been listening to APOLOGIA. I just wanted to ask a simple question.

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I know, you know, a Nazi group showed up at the event Saturday and people were talking about that. And I just wanted for all of us to really think about this.

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What's wrong with Nazism? Like, seriously, what's wrong with Nazism?

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Because imagine for a moment that there is no God above us, no hell below us, no heaven to live for, as John Lennon wanted to imagine.

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If we are truly the result of evolved stardust and our ancestors were fish and were the descendants of monkeys, then where do we find our value as human beings?

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What's wrong with Nazism? Unless a few understand that the God of scripture says that we are made in his image.

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And so to murder innocent people is a violation to God's commands. As a

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Christian, I can say that Nazis, what the Nazis did in Nazi Germany was completely horrific and that they should have been resistant.

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In fact, the number one people group that resisted the Nazis were Christians. And the reason why, the reason why was because they had a worldview that says that people are made in God's image and that they have worth and value.

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That's why Nazism is wrong. But if we're going to reject the Christian worldview, then we can't hold on to the fruit that comes from the

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Christian worldview while denying the actual foundation. Intolerance is an interesting word.

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Tolerance, intolerance, hatred, love, bigotry, things like that, because really every culture has something that it's intolerant towards and something that it's tolerance of.

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I mean, there are things like murder and rape and and, you know, stealing and just crimes that we are intolerant towards as a society.

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And so every society has something that's intolerant towards. The question is just what is our object of intolerance and what is our object of tolerance?

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When I showed up Saturday, all I did was read from scripture on the sidewalk. I read from the

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Bible, Galatians. And by the way, I wasn't reading Romans 1. I wasn't reading any passage that spoke against homosexuality or anything like that.

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I was reading a passage from the Bible about love. And I was arrested. No reason, not given any warning, not told anything about my amplification need to be turning down.

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I was arrested and taken into custody simply for reading the Bible on the sidewalk.

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You see, as we become more and more tolerant of sexual immorality in our culture, we've become more and more intolerant towards Christian morality.

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And the more we become intolerant towards Christian morality, the more we're going to see lawlessness in our streets.

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The more we become intolerant of Christian morality, the more we're going to see Nazis, the more we're going to see people who don't hold to a

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Christian worldview, who think that everybody is a result of animals. And therefore, if we are animals, then why can't we just act like animals?

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We were called the hate group. We were told that we don't want to understand the other side. And I just want to set the record straight.

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I am more than happy to have that conversation with the other side. I did speech and debate throughout high school.

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And one of the things that we were taught in debate is that you can't make an argument for your side until you're able to make the argument for the other side.

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I've sat down and had hours of discussions with LGBTQ activists. I completely understand the other side.

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I want to understand the other side. But drag queens twerking on kids in lingerie is unacceptable.

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And that's something that we have to notice as a culture. We can have our disagreements, but there comes a time when we have to understand that we are all going to stand before God one day and we're going to have to give an account for what we have done with the children in our society, the innocent minds and the children who deserve to be protected.

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Thank you. Excuse me, operator. I'd like to report a crime. Please, Marcus, you're my hero, brother.

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For real, praise the Lord for you, man. That's good. And I wanted to play that as we at least got to at least get it into the show here on YouTube.

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I want to play that because I hope, Marcus, through this, I know you don't want any glory for yourself here. I know you I know you want to just serve

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Christ and be faithful. And that was completely spirit led there, obviously. But I wanted to play that, honestly, for the men who are watching this that don't do this.

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I want men, older men, to see this and feel just a tinge of shame, a tinge of shame for giving up the culture around them and staying silent while all this evil passes them by and the darkness covers their streets.

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And so, Marcus, thank you. Thank you for your faithfulness. Nick, thank you for your faithfulness. Jason, we love you, brother. And I want all the men watching this and even the women to pay close attention to these young men, to these faithful men preaching the truth in the midst of so much hostility and evil.

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This is how you overcome darkness by actually shining a light on it. And so let let these young men be a testimony against your indifference and your your unwillingness to be courageous enough just to take a stand for the truth.

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And so praise God for your work, guys. We're going to head over to unless you guys have one final word. Speaking of women watching, there's a particular one on the live stream.

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You might know her. She used to sit in my seat. Joy the girl's in there. Oh, Joy, the girl. What's up,

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Joy? I was just going to say that. Joy, it's time to move back. Stop playing games. Trey's a loser.

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Come back. Trey's a loser. You know, Trey Fisher is not the same caliber. It just he's not on the level.

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He knows this. And just know that we have you. We haven't even touched. Let me just say this.

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I want everyone to know this. Joy, the girl moved with her family to Louisiana. Louisiana.

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And they're at Trey Fisher with Pastor Trey Fisher. And but since since since you left,

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Joy, nobody has even entered your office. We all walk by it and we don't even look towards it.

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We just when we pass by it, we put our heads down. And I might have borrowed some scissors. I think sometimes people walk by it as they walk by.

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They just do like this as they walk by. It's like it's just like a thing. Would you like to just walk by and just pour one out for the girl?

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And Joy, you can come back any time. Look, you know that you like it better here. Just we'll all pray about it.

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And it's we just know it's going to happen. I mean, it's just woodpeckers in Arizona, too. You can you can do all of the foraging and everything else here as well.

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All right, guys, we're going to head over right now to the after show. That's Luke the Bear. Peace out.

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I'm Jeff, the Combat Ninja. And we're going to what's thank you guys for being on. We'll meet you guys over on the after show.