December 13, 2017 Show with Jason Wallace on “Temples Made With Hands” & “The Homosexual Seduction of the Mormon Church”

Live from the historic parsonage of 19th century gospel minister George Norcross in downtown

Carlisle, Pennsylvania it's iron sharpens iron a radio

platform on which pastors Christian scholars and theologians Address the burning issues

facing the church and the world today.

Proverbs 27 verse 17 tells us iron sharpens iron so one

man sharpens another.

Matthew Henry said that in this passage quote we are cautioned to take heed whom we

converse with and Directed to have in view in conversation to make one another

wiser and better.

It is our hope that this goal will be accomplished over the next hour.

And we hope to hear from you the listener with your own questions.

Now here's our host Chris.

Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania.

Lake City, Florida.

And the rest of humanity living on the planet Earth who are listening via live streaming at iron sharpens iron radio

.com.

This is Chris Arnz and your host of iron sharpens iron radio.

Wishing you all a happy Wednesday on this 13th day of December 2017.

I'm so delighted to have back as a returning guest my friend pastor Jason Wallace

of Christ Presbyterian Church of Magna, Utah, which is a suburb of Salt Lake City.

This is a congregation within the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and pastor Jason Wallace is also

host of the ancient paths radio show and producer of LDS

video and We are going to be discussing today two topics on Mormonism.

The first we are going to be addressing Is temples made with hands, which is also a

new video?

Documentary video that Jason Wallace and Christ Presbyterian Church of Magna, Utah have produced.

The second hour We will be addressing the homosexual seduction of the Mormon Church, which may be

quite astonishing.

To a lot of you listening, but it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron

radio pastor Jason Wallace.

And if anybody would like to join us on the air of the question whether you agree With pastor Wallace or whether you

vehemently disagree.

Wait, maybe you're a Mormon.

We would love to hear from you if you are a Mormon.

Although we would love it even more if you were not a Mormon.

I don't think it's still love to hear from you if you are a Mormon.

We'd also love to hear from folks in the reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints.

Got to do a program on that sometime.

I believe it's now called the community of Christ.

They've changed their name.

But the email address to send your questions to is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Chris a r n z e n at gmail .com.

Please give us your first name your city and state and your country of residence if you live outside of the USA and

Please only remain anonymous if it's about a personal and private matter.

Perhaps you are a Mormon and you're asking a question and you don't want to draw attention to your identity.

Perhaps you are a Mormon who is starting to question the theology of Mormonism.

There may be a host of reasons why you have a personal and private matter that you want to address

without revealing your identity and we will Grant your request, but if it's not a personal and

private matter.

Please give us your first name city and state and country of residence if you live outside the USA.

Well, first of all as we always do pastor Jason, especially since.

There are new listeners joining the iron sharpens iron radio audience every day.

Please let our listeners know something about Christ Presbyterian Church of Magna, Utah.

Thank you,

Chris,

and we

addressed

that to

subject

before

and

you

are

being.

Somewhat tongue -in -cheek with the title because you do not believe that someone can actually be a genuine Christian and be

a homosexual an active.

Unrepentant

homosexual

and.

James White the aforementioned scholar that you had.

Come to the Christ Presbyterian Church in Magna, Utah on a number of occasions.

We don't want to steer your audience wrong that he's no longer coming because he is coming God willing this February, isn't it?

Just just so our listeners know what you're talking about.

These are not Mormons.

These are self -professed Fundamentalists who most of them or at

least many of them are not even affiliated with local churches.

They are mavericks Who have been in a very mean -spirited? unproductive

manner picketing Mormon events with a

Attitude and a rhetoric bordering on the same lines as the God hates fags group

the Westboro Baptist Church and James White who was there reasoning with

Mormons from the Bible And a loving and compassionate yet firm

fashion.

Was also Also became a part of their protest because he was not

sharing in their vitriol and their venom and.

So it became a really difficult situation for dr. White and the Alpha and Omega ministries volunteers

To continue because they were being broad -brushed with these.

People behaving in an absurd

and

an

anti

-productive

and un

-christian

manner.

Wow.

I think he stopped using a razor to the whole thing though.

He's kind of letting it get like a ace a Five o 'clock shadow on his scalp now.

And when

people act like

that when

crit

when

professed Christians act like that.

All's they do is further convince their enemies or their theological enemies that they were right

in their accusations or presumptions.

Against

Christianity

like

our

forefather.

So

obviously our.

Intent today when we are exposing error.

We are trying and I'm not saying that we are infallible in doing this and I'm sure that I have

Unconsciously or even purposely in a sinful way have gone over the

edge into intentional mockery and ad hominem ad hominem.

But that is not our intention today.

We are trying to do what a any loving Christian should do is

Expose Deadly and damning error.

And I'm talking about spiritually deadly and damning error because

it is not more loving to spare one's feelings and

Allow someone to continue on the path to hell.

I mean someone's feelings are infinitely less Important than their eternal

destiny.

All

right,

I

believe.

Wow, I didn't know that.

Yeah, I mean it makes sense geographically, but I just didn't know that.

That was the case.

That's quite fascinating.

I.

When we did

the

television.

Well,

we have had

you on

the program a

number of

times to discuss.

Some of the bedrock heretical teachings of The

Latter -day Saints and also a lot of the things that involved their history and so on so we can't

Spend too much time repeating ourselves, and I would like to just direct Our listeners

not only to the iron sharpens iron radio archive.

If you type in Mormon you will get a number of past interviews

That are there for your listening not only with Jason Wallace, but with some other former Mormons

I'm sorry, not other former Mormons.

Jason Wallace was never a Mormon, but I mean with other apologists

Critiquing Mormonism, that's the better way.

And and some of them happen to be former Mormons, but You could also go to

LDS video and these are really well done a very professional

highly researched and documented Of documentaries and I

heartily recommend them especially since my voice is on some of them.

But that's that's not the only reason I am recommending them.

There are some things that I've done in my past in regard to voiceover work that I would never brag about to anybody publicly,

but I one of the reasons I got involved in it is just because of the superb

quality of What is being done and knowing of the character and biblically

solid theological background of pastor Wallace.

So look up those videos when this show is over and start watching them at LDS video.

LDS video now I'm assuming that your latest one temples made with

hands is part of that umbrella or part of the videos under

that umbrella at LDS video.

Most

definitely

and

they're

all

free.

Right

if

you

if

I

don't

know if

you've

ever

seen

this,

but

there

was

a.

Documentary and I'm not sure how old it was.

It's probably over a decade, but it might not be.

There were Mormons who converted to Christianity when they were scientists who were studying

the DNA record and they realized that the American

Indians or Native Americans.

The DNA that they possess has nothing to do with the

DNA of of Genuine Hebrews if you will.

Yeah.

We

then

made

a

video.

If

anybody

would

like to

join us

on the

air

send us

an

email

to Chris

Arnzen

at

gmail

.com.

Chris Arnzen at gmail .com and I'm going to our break right now our first break because I don't

want to interrupt pastor Jason.

Mid -sentence.

Anybody would like to join us on the air with a question of your own.

Send it to Chris Arnzen at gmail .com and please always.

Remember to give your first name city and state and country of residence if you live outside the USA and please only remain

anonymous If your question involves a personal and private matter.

Don't go away.

God willing. We will be right back right after these messages with more of Jason Wallace and temples

made with hands.

Tired of box -store Christianity of doing church in a warehouse with all the trappings of a rock concert.

Do you long for a more traditional and reverent style of worship?

And how about the preaching.

Perhaps you've begun to think that in -depth biblical exposition has vanished from Long Island.

Well, there's good news.

Wedding River Baptist Church exists to provide believers with a meaningful and reverent worship experience

Featuring the systematic exposition of God's Word.

And this loving congregation looks forward to meeting you.

Call them at 6 3 1 9 2 9 35 12 for service

times 6 3 1 9 2 9 35 12 or check out their website at wrbc .us.

That's wrbc .us.

I'm James White of Alpha Omega Ministries.

The new American Standard Bible is perfect for daily reading or in -depth study used by pastors scholars and everyday readers.

The NASB is widely embraced and trusted as a literal and readable Bible translation.

The NASB offers clarity and readability while maintaining high accuracy to the original languages Which the NASB is known for.

The NASB is available in many editions like a topical reference Bible.

Researched and prepared by biblical scholars devoted to accuracy the new topical reference Bible includes contemporary topics

relevant to today's issues.

From compacted giant print Bibles find an NASB that fits your needs very affordably at NAS Bible

calm.

Whichever edition you choose trust discover and enjoy the NASB for yourself today.

Go to NAS Bible calm.

That's NAS Bible calm.

I am Chris Arns and host of iron sharpens iron radio here to tell you about an exciting offer from world

magazine My trusted source for news from a Christian perspective.

Try world at no charge for 90 days and get a free copy of R .C. Sproul's book

relationship between church and state.

I Rely on world because I trust the reporting.

I gain insight from the analysis and world provides clarity to the news stories That really matter.

I believe you'll also find world to be an invaluable resource to better understand critical topics with a depth That's

simply not found in other media outlets.

Armed with this coverage world can help you to be a voice of wisdom in your family and your community.

This trial includes bi -weekly issues of world magazine on -scene reporting from world radio

and the fully shareable content of world digital.

Simply visit wmg .org Forward -slash iron sharpens

to get your world trial and dr. Sproul's book all free.

No obligation with no credit card required.

Visit world news group at wmg .org forward

slash iron sharpens today.

Hi, I'm pastor Bill Shishko inviting you to tune in to a visit to the pastor's study every Saturday

from 12 noon to 1 p .m Eastern Time on Wlie radio

www .wlie 540 a .m.

Calm we bring biblically faithful Pastoral ministry to you and we invite you to visit the pastor's

study by calling in with your questions.

Our time will be lively useful and I assure you never dull.

Join us this Saturday at 12 noon Eastern Time for a visit to the pastor's study because everyone needs

a pastor.

Hi, I'm buzz Taylor frequent co -host with Chris Arnzen on iron sharpens iron radio.

I would like to introduce you to my good friends Todd and Patty Jennings at CVBBS.

Which stands for Cumberland Valley Bible book service?

Todd and Patty specialize in supplying reformed and Puritan books and Bibles at discount prices that make them

affordable to everyone.

Since.

1987 the family -owned and operated book service has sought to bring you the best available Christian books and Bibles

at the best possible prices.

Unlike other book sites they make no effort to provide every book that is available because frankly Much of what

is being printed is not worth your time.

That means you can get to the good stuff faster.

It also means that you don't have to worry about being assaulted by the pornographic Heretical and

otherwise faith insulting material promoted by the secular book vendors.

Their website is CVBBS .com.

Browse the pages at ease shop at your leisure and purchase with confidence.

As Todd and Patty work in service to you the church and to Christ.

That's Cumberland Valley Bible book service at CVBBS .com.

That's CVBBS .com.

Let Todd and Patty know that you heard about them on iron sharpens iron radio.

And you can call CVBBS .com at their toll -free number as well 800

-656 -0231 800 -656 -0231.

Try to call between 10 a .m. And 4 30 p .m.

Where they are most likely going to be manning the phones if you insist on ordering by

phone and they are offering a storewide sale.

10 % off everything even 10 % off things that are already discounted.

If you order $50 or more worth of merchandise you will get absolutely free the book by Anthony

Salvaggio the Proverbs driven life.

Not to be confused with Rick Warren's book I would never promote that book.

This is a totally different book by a totally different person with a totally different theological

Belief.

He is a theologically reformed brother in Christ Anthony Salvaggio.

And once again, it is a Proverbs driven life.

Retailing for $14.

You'll get that absolutely free if you order $50 or more worth of merchandise from CVBBS .com.

And once again, their toll -free number is 800 -656 -0231.

We are back now with our guest today Jason Wallace pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church of Magna,

Utah, which is a congregation within the Orthodox Presbyterian denomination.

He is host of the ancient paths program.

Now.

Did I make a mistake?

Is that a radio or TV show?

It was a television boy.

Okay, and I apologize for that

flub there and.

He's also producer of LDS video which has a number of different

Documentaries intended to be a witness for Christianity and the scriptures

to Mormons.

We are discussing one of those documentaries today Temples made with hands in the second hour.

God willing.

We'll be discussing the homosexual seduction of the Mormon Church.

You'd like to join us our Email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com.

Now before we go into any audience questions, could you please?

Summarize what the main intent of the documentary temples made with hands is and

some of the Core things that you have revealed in this documentary.

Sure,

even

the

baptistry

with

the

oxen,

right?

They

didn't

have

a

baptismal.

Yes,

and

there's a

lot

of.

Connection with the Masonic Lodge and Mormon temples and ritual, correct.

And

Why is this so Disturbing to you.

There are even Christians for instance, and there have been Christians for

centuries.

Even going back to some of our founding fathers Like George Washington who professed to be a Christian and so on

who were members of the Mason Lodge or the Freemasonry Lodge.

Tell us about why this would be alarming in any way.

Well,

I

mean

Freemasonry

is

basically

and

by

the

way.

I want to let our listeners know that I had done some interviews in the past

with my friend John Otis Who wrote a book called Freemasonry a dangerous

cult?

And you could look that up in Amazon and I might be able to find before the end of the program another URL that you could

order that book from.

It's the largest at least when it was written and published.

It was the largest most exhaustive treatment of

Freemasonry coming from a Christian perspective a point of criticism coming from a

point of criticism from a Christian and evangelical Christian.

And John was actually a part many years ago of a PCA board

that was Developed to vote on whether or not PCA members could be also

simultaneously members of the Masons and John developed

his vast files of research.

Because of being charged with that duty being a board member at the time and that's how he came.

To be such a thoroughly knowledgeable expert on the Masons.

In fact after a a Listener of the iron Sherpins iron radio program in Dublin,

Ireland heard my interview with him he had John he contacted John and had John

invited at John to debate a high level Mason in London,

England and The the high -level Mason was also a Sweden Borg enist.

And it was quite an interesting debate and you can see that on YouTube.

I'm assuming it's still there John Otis debate on Freemasonry and you'll you'll find it but I

digress.

I'm sorry about that.

And a.

Lot of a lot of the Mormon right in ritual is

Is very eerie when it comes to Connections with things that seem

very superstitious and even a cultic.

Am I going too far in that?

Now the the thing that is puzzling to me is that You

will have Mormon marriages sealed in the temple and

They are supposedly Connected with eternal significance and then you still

have Mormons getting divorced and.

Remarried

and

so on.

What's

going on

there

now, of

course,

there are

there are

multitudes of.

Evangelical Christians born -again believers who have been divorced so we're not like mocking Marie Osmond about anything.

It's just has to do with a Inconsistency or an inconsistency with Mormon

dogma.

I mean things that are not Things that are supposed to be changeable.

Am I right on that?

Right.

I mean the temple marriage to

you part.

That's because that

was one of

Joseph Smith's wives,

correct?

Yeah,

we're

going

to

our.

Midway break.

This is a longer break than normal.

When we return I'm going to have you summarize the the whole topic of

Temples made with hands and then we're going to move on to our second Subject which is

the homosexual seduction of a Mormon Church.

If anybody would like to join us on the air, our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com Chris Arnzen at gmail .com CH

RIS AR n Z n at gmail .com

and Please give us your first name at

least.

Your city and state of residence.

Your country of residence if you live outside the USA only remain anonymous if you're asking about a personal and private matter.

Don't go away.

God willing.

We will be back right back with Pastor Jason Wallace and more of our discussion

on Mormonism.

One sure way all iron sharpens iron radio listeners can help keep my show on the air is to support my

advertisers.

I know you all use batteries every day.

So I'm urging you all from now on to exclusively use Battery Depot calm for all

your battery needs at Battery Depot calm.

They're changing the status quo.

They're flipping the script.

They're sticking it to the man.

In other words, they'd like to change the battery industry for good by providing an extensive inventory

of top -of -the -line batteries.

There are uniformly new dependable and affordable.

Ordering from Battery Depot calm ensures you'll always get fresh out -of -the -box batteries.

You can count on to work properly at competitive prices.

Whether you need batteries for cordless phones cell phones radios PCs

laptops tablets baby monitors hearing aids smoke detectors credit card

readers digital cameras electronic cigarettes GPS's mp3 players

watches or nearly anything else you own that needs batteries go to Battery Depot

Calm next day shipping available all products protected by 30 -day guarantees and six

-month warranties.

Call 866 403 3768 that's 866

403 3768 or go to Battery Depot calm.

That's Battery Depot.

Calm

Paul wrote to the church at Galatia for am I now seeking the approval of man or of God?

Or am I trying to please man.

If I were still trying to please man? I would not be a servant of Christ.

Hi, I'm Mark Lukens pastor of Providence Baptist Church.

We are a reformed Baptist Church and we hold to the London Baptist Confession of Faith of 1689.

We are in Norfolk, Massachusetts.

We strive to reflect Paul's mindset to be much more concerned with how God views what we say and what we do

Than how men view these things?

That's not the best recipe for popularity, but since that wasn't the Apostles priority It must not be ours either.

We believe by God's grace that we are called to demonstrate love and compassion to our fellow man and To be

vessels of Christ's mercy to a lost and hurting community around us and to build up the body of Christ in truth.

And love.

If you live near Norfolk, Massachusetts or plan to visit our area Please come and join us for worship and fellowship.

You can call us at 508 -528 -5750.

That's 508 -528 -5750 or go to our website to email us listen to past

sermons Worship songs or watch our TV program entitled resting in grace.

You can find us at Providence Baptist Church Ma .org that's Providence Baptist Church ma .org

or even on sermon audio .com.

Providence Baptist Church is delighted to sponsor iron sharpens iron radio.

Iron sharpens iron welcomes solid rock remodeling to our family of sponsors serving South

Central, Pennsylvania.

Solid rock remodeling is focused on discovering Understanding and exceeding your

expectations.

They deliver personalized project solutions with exceptional results.

Solid rock remodeling offers a full range of home renovations including kitchen and bath

remodeling decks porches.

Windows and doors.

Roof and siding and more for a clear detailed professional estimate.

Call this trustworthy team of problem solvers who provide superior results that stand to

the test of time.

Call solid rock remodeling at 717 -697 -1981

717 -697 -1981.

Or visit solid rock remodeling .com.

That's solid rock remodeling .com solid rock remodeling.

Bringing new life to your home.

Have you been blessed by iron sharpens iron radio?

We remain on the air because of our faithful sponsors and because of listeners like you.

There are four ways you can help.

First do you know potential sponsors who may wish to advertise their goods or services on iron sharpens

iron radio?

Second whenever possible purchase the products or use the services that our sponsors advertise and

Then let them know that you heard about them on iron sharpens iron radio.

Thirdly you can also donate to iron sharpens iron radio by going to our website at iron sharpens iron

radio Calm and click support at the top of the page, but most importantly keep iron

sharpens iron radio in your prayers.

We hope that iron sharpens iron radio blesses you for many years to come.

Chef exclusive catering is in South Central, Pennsylvania.

Chef exclusives goals to provide a dining experience that is sure to please any palate.

Chef Damian white of chef exclusive is a graduate of the renowned Johnson and Wales University with a degree in

culinary arts and applied science.

Chef exclusive caterings event center is newly designed with elegance and style and is available for

small office gatherings bridal showers engagement parties and rehearsal dinners

critics and guests alike.

Acknowledge chef exclusives commitment to exceeding even the highest expectations I know of their

quality firsthand since.

Chef exclusive catered by most recent iron sharpens iron radio pastors luncheon.

For details call 717 -388 -3000.

That's 717 -388 -3000 or visit chef exclusive calm.

That's chef exclusive calm.

Every day at thousands of community centers high schools middle schools juvenile institutions

Coffee shops and local hangouts Long Island youth for Christ staff and volunteers meet with young

people who need Jesus.

We are rural and urban and we are always about the message of Jesus.

Our mission is to have a noticeable spiritual impact on Long Island, New York by engaging young people in the lifelong

journey of following Christ.

Long Island youth for Christ has been a stalwart bedrock ministry since 1959.

We have a world -class staff and a proven track record of bringing consistent love and encouragement To youths in

need all over the country and around the world.

Help honor our history by becoming a part of our future Volunteer.

Donate pray or all of the above.

For details call Long Island youth for Christ at six three one 385

-8333.

That's six three one three eight five eight three three three.

Or visit liy fc .org.

That's liy fc .org.

Iron sharpens iron radio is sponsored by Harvey Cedars a year -round Bible conference and retreat

center.

Nestled on the Jersey Shore Harvey Cedars offers a wide range of accommodations to suit groups up

to 400.

For generations Christians have enjoyed gathering and growing at Harvey Cedars.

Each year thousands of high school and college students come and learn more about God's Word.

An Additional 9 ,000 come annually to Harvey Cedars as families couples

singles men women pastors seniors and missionaries 90 miles

from New York City 70 miles from Philly and 95 miles from Wilmington and easily

accessible.

Scores of notable Christian groups frequently planned conferences at Harvey Cedars like the

Navigators InterVarsity Christian Fellowship Campus Crusade and the Alliance of

Confessing Evangelicals.

Find Harvey Cedars on Facebook or at hcbible .org.

Hcbible .org.

Call 609 -494 -5689 609

-494 -5689.

Harvey Cedars where Christ finds people and changes lives.

Hi, I'm buzz Taylor frequent co -host with Chris Arnzen on iron sharpens iron radio.

I would like to introduce you to my good friends Todd and Patty Jennings at CVBBS.

Which stands for Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service?

Todd and Patty specialized in supplying reformed and Puritan books and Bibles at discount prices that make them

affordable to everyone.

Since.

1987 the family -owned and operated book service has sought to bring you the best available Christian books and Bibles

at the best possible prices.

Unlike other book sites.

They make no effort to provide every book that is available because frankly Much of what is being printed is not

worth your time.

That means you can get to the good stuff faster.

It also means that you don't have to worry about being assaulted by the pornographic Heretical and

otherwise faith insulting material promoted by the secular book vendors.

Their website is CVBBS .com.

Browse the pages at ease shop at your leisure and purchase with confidence.

As Todd and Patty work in service to you the church and to Christ.

That's Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service at CVBBS .com.

That's CVBBS .com.

Let Todd and Patty know that you heard about them on iron sharpens iron radio.

Charles Haddon Spurgeon once said Give yourself unto reading.

The man who never reads will never be read.

He who never quotes will never be quoted.

He will not use the thoughts of other men's brains.

Proves that he has no brains of his own.

You need to read.

Solid ground Christian books is a publisher and book distributor who takes these words of the Prince of preachers to heart.

The mission of solid ground Christian books is to bring back treasures of the past to minister to Christians in the present and

future and To publish new titles that address burning issues in the church and the world.

Since its beginning in 2001 Solid ground has been committed to publish God -centered Christ exalting

books for all ages.

We invite you to go treasure hunting at solid ground books .com That's solid

ground books .com and see what priceless literary gems from the past or present You

can unearth from solid ground.

Solid ground Christian books is honored to be a weekly sponsor of iron sharpens iron radio.

And if you want iron sharpens iron radio to remain on the air support our advertisers like Solid

ground Christian books solid ground books .com solid ground books

.com Please help them dig their way out of a sales slump a very serious sales

slump.

They've experienced they are slowly rising out of it, but not to a comfortable point

and Please whenever you order from solid dash ground books .com Make sure you mention to them that you

heard about them from Chris Arnz and an iron sharpens iron radio.

Please consider doing all of your holiday shopping or at least a great portion of it from solid dash ground

books .com Solid dash ground books .com and you can also order Solid ground Christian

books titles from cvbbs .com who you heard advertised just moments ago.

Cvbbs .com is a book distributor.

They are not a publisher and solid ground Christian books is a publisher.

So you can order titles published by solid ground Christian books From cvbbs .com and you could

kill two birds with one stone and make two of our advertisers happy.

So why not go to a solid ground Christian books website solid dash ground dash books .com make a list of all the books

that you want to order and then go to cvbbs .com and order them and Just to let you

know that to repeat what we said earlier Cvbbs .com is having a sale a

storewide sale 10 off everything That they carry and if you order $50

or more worth of merchandise You get absolutely free of charge the book by Anthony Salvaggio

the Proverbs driven life.

That's a $14 value.

You'll get that absolutely free of charge.

You can either go to cvbbs .com or you can call them

at 800 6 5 6 0 2 3 1 800 6 5 6 0 2 3 1.

And don't forget to look for titles, especially published by solid ground Christian books.

Solid ground Christian books and We are going to return to our discussion

momentarily.

With Jason Wallace pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church of Magna, Utah, which is an Orthodox

Presbyterian congregation Also known as the OPC he is also former

host of the ancient paths television show and Producer of LDS video we

were discussing during our first hour temples made with hands.

We are going to wrap that up in a moment and Move on to our second subject the homosexual seduction of the

Mormon Church if you'd like to join us on the air.

Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

And we have a number of you already waiting to have your questions asked and answered by Jason Wallace.

So be patient and we'll be with you as soon as we can.

I just have to make one.

Or should I say a couple more announcements the g3 conference Which stands for grace

gospel and glory is returning to Atlanta, Georgia this January 17th

through the 20th.

They are going to hold this conference once again for the second time at the Georgia

International Convention Center quite an enormous Facility and I am going to be there god

-willing for the second time.

To man and I interpret Zion radio exhibitors booth and I hope many of you greet me there.

When you when you attend this conference, please I'm begging I'm begging you to please if it is all

possible.

Please attend this conference.

The g3 conference this January will be on knowing God a biblical understanding of discipleship.

The 17th begins during the daytime with an exclusively Spanish speaking edition of the conference.

And then we transition into the English language on the evening of

January 17th when dr. James R white of Alpha Omega Ministries debates a Muslim and

Then on the 18th the English version of the conference actually begins on

the theme knowing God a biblical understanding of discipleship and the Speakers include Stephen Lawson Votie Balcom

Phil Johnson Keith Getty Keith Getty.

I was right HB Charles jr Tim Challis Josh Bice James White Tom Askew Anthony

Mathenia Michael Kruger David Miller Paul Tripp, Todd free Derek Thomas Martha piece

Justin Peters and Stephen Nichols has just recently been added.

He is the president of Reformation Bible College a college

Started by Ligonier ministries the teaching ministry of dr. RC Sproul.

If you would like to register for this conference Go to g3 conference calm g3

conference calm and please tell them that you heard about the conference from Chris Arnzen on iron Sharpens iron radio tell

that to all of our advertisers if you contact them or patronize them because it doesn't do much good for us

if You contact them or make use of their services or attend their events if you're not mentioning

us it does wonders for them.

Doesn't do much good for us.

If you're not mentioning iron sharpens iron radio.

And please if you love this program And you don't want us to go away.

We are truly on the precipice of disappearing from the airwaves.

We are going through a really Difficult time financially and as I have been begging you

for several months now after years of silence finally caving in

to the Constant urging of my advertisers to make public appeals for donations my

advertisers who have spent Many hard -earned dollars to keep iron sharpens iron radio on the air

want you to join in on helping this program to remain in Existence, so please if you love the program

go to iron sharpens iron radio comm click on support.

And then you'll see an address a mailing address.

You can mail a check for any amount made payable to iron sharpens iron radio or cruciform media

Which is the name of my advertising agency.

Either one will work, but iron sharpens iron radio is just a lot easier to remember.

And please Never ever ever siphon money out of your regular giving that you're accustomed to to your

local church where you are a member.

And you must be a member of a local Bible -believing church or prayerfully seeking one out.

If you are to be living in obedience to God in that that regard.

But please never siphon money away from them and never take food off of your family's dinner table because those are two things that

are commands of Scripture providing for your home and family and your church.

But if you are blessed above and beyond your ability financially to obey those two commands, please

consider Sponsoring iron sharpens iron radio if you don't want it to disappear if

you do want it to remain on the air.

Iron sharpens iron radio comm click support.

You'll have all the details.

You need to mail a check of any amount.

Please mail as many checks as you can some of you have already become monthly or bi

-monthly or tri -monthly Donors and I my heart leaps with joy.

I'm so humbled and honored that so many of you think this program is

worthy of Spending your hard -earned money To help it remain on

the air.

I am totally blown away by that and I thank God for you more than you will ever know if you want to advertise with.

Us.

Send me an email to Chris Arnson at gmail .com Chris Arnson at gmail .com and put advertising in the

subject line and whatever it is you're advertising whether it's your church power church Business professional

practice special event as long as it's compatible with the theology Expressed on iron sharpens iron

radio.

We would love to launch an ad campaign with you.

It doesn't have to be identical.

You don't have to have identical beliefs to me, but you cannot have beliefs That militate

against mine, especially when it comes to what you're advertising.

So, thank you very much for your time and allowing me to rattle my tin cup.

Because of the urgent situation and desperate situation that we find ourselves here on iron sharpens iron radio financially now

we are back to our discussion with pastor Jason Wallace of Christ

Presbyterian Church and and producer of LDS video we are

discussing.

We are wrapping up our discussion a discussion right now on temples made with hands and then we're gonna move on to the

Homosexual the seduction of the Mormon Church if you could.

Summarize those things you most want our listeners to know about temples made with hands.

Pastor Jason.

I'm sorry.

I can't couldn't help but laugh at that.

That's pretty funny.

Yeah, I mean it's for it's super big.

Okay, well before I go into the New topic on the

homosexual seduction of the Mormon Church.

I have a listener from Copenhagen Denmark and I could be

wrong, but I think that we either ran out of time One of during one of

your previous interviews and could not take this brother's question.

So I'm gonna ask it now, but even if we already asked it on the air, I just don't remember.

It's it's a good question that would apply very much to any discussion on the Latter -day Saints.

So I'm gonna reread the question.

Anyway from Armin in Copenhagen Denmark.

He asks you how do you utilize apologetics when evangelizing Mormons?

And then he has a follow -up question, but I'll start with that one and

You actually reminded me of some of the things you were saying a friend of mine Debra

Antic Nano who's a former Jehovah's Witness born -again believer in Christ and Someone who

is gifted with a truly breathtaking Gift of singing and she sings professionally.

She sings in churches and for special Christian events.

But she was in a dialogue on the internet With Glenn Beck and she showed me a screenshot

of her dialogue with him and he was getting angry about his Christianity being

questioned since he's a Mormon and He basically in anger said I'm gonna

say this one last time.

Okay, you know I mean, I don't know the tone of his voice.

But even to say that is pretty pretty remarkable why you would be saying that you only wanted to say it one last

time.

He said that he believes that we are sinners that Jesus Christ is our Savior

that he rose from the dead and Without him We would not have salvation or

something to that effect.

And so see there.

I'm a Christian now.

They have a they have this often.

They very often have the same vocabulary, but a different dictionary, don't they?

Right

and.

Let's have an abbreviated response to this since we really do want to go on to the homosexual issue with Mormonism.

Armin from Copenhagen Denmark also says I would assume that sometimes there needs to be some groundwork

before proclaiming the gospel.

Since Mormons have a different view of God sin hell heaven grace, etc.

It's just something that you were just talking about.

So I'm assuming he's correct that it would be wise not not necessary.

But wise to have some homework about what Mormons believe before you get into a dialogue with

them.

Well, thank you Armin in Copenhagen Denmark keep listening to iron trip and Zion radio and keep spreading the word about the

program in Scandinavia and beyond.

Well before I go into some of your our audience questions on the homosexual issue please start with

a Summary of why you wanted to discuss this issue today.

It may be alarming to a lot of people that this is even an issue amongst Those that have been

considered to be the most conservative religious people in America

and.

And here we have an issue of Homosexuality infiltrating even the

official Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints.

So if you could tell us something about this.

Sure,

by

the way,

you

might

find this

interesting,

but

my

landlord

here

in

Carlisle,

Pennsylvania.

Was a pastor there at the first OPC of San Francisco before Chuck McElhaney was there.

Oh, wow.

Well, Al Stever.

In fact, if you

pick up

right

where

you

left off

there with imagine

dragons.

Yeah, because we have to go to our final break right now.

It's gonna be a briefer one than the previous one.

So don't go away.

God willing.

We'll be right back with Jason Wallace and more of the homosexual discussed the homosexual

seduction of the Mormon Church.

Are you a Christian looking to align your faith and finances then you'll want to check out Thriving Financial.

We're not your typical financial services provider.

We're a not -for -profit fortune 500 organization that helps our nearly 2 .4 million members be wise

with money.

We provide guidance that reflects your values so you can protect what matters most.

We help members live generously and strengthen the communities where they live work and worship.

Learn more about the thriving story by contacting me Mike Gallagher Financial

consultant at 7 1 7 2 5 4 6 4 3 3

again 7 1 7 2 5 4 6 4 3 3.

Lending faith finances and generosity.

That's the private story.

I.

Linbrook Baptist Church on 225 Earl Avenue in Linbrook, Long Island is teaching God's timeless truths in

the 21st century.

Our church is far more than a Sunday worship service.

It's a place of learning where the scriptures are studied and the preaching of the gospel is clear and relevant.

It's like a gym where one can exercise their faith through community involvement.

It's like a hospital for wounded souls where one can find compassionate people in healing.

We're a diverse family of all ages.

Enthusiastically serving our Lord Jesus Christ in fellowship play and together.

Hi I'm pastor Bob Waldeman and I invite you to come and join us here at Linbrook Baptist Church and see all that a church.

Can be call in Brook Baptist at 5 1 6 5 9 9 9 4 0 2 that's 5 1 6 5

9 9 9 4 0 2 or visit Linbrook Baptist org, that's Linbrook Baptist org.

Hi, I'm pastor Bill Shishko inviting you to tune in to a visit to the pastor's study every Saturday

from 12 noon to 1 p .m. Eastern Time on WLIE radio

www .wlie 540 a .m.

Dot -com.

We bring biblically faithful pastoral ministry to you and we invite you to visit the pastor's study by calling in

with your questions.

Our time will be lively useful and I assure you never dull.

Join us this Saturday at 12 noon Eastern Time for a visit to the pastor's study because everyone needs

a pass.

Welcome back.

We are continuing our discussion now with pastor. Jason Wallace of Christ Presbyterian Church in Magna,

Utah on The homosexual seduction of the Mormon Church.

If you'd like to join us join us quickly with a question before we run out of time.

Chris Arnson at gmail .com.

Chris Arnson at gmail .com.

Right before the break.

Pastor Jason you were talking about imagined dragons and somebody who returned as a missionary

Repentant of being so harsh against the sin of homosexuality.

Yeah, Dan riddles a Mormon

group.

I've never heard of them.

Yeah.

Okay,

we

have

some

questions.

Excellent questions from a listener who actually is someone who has been a guest on iron trip

and Zion radio.

He's a former Mormon who was converted To biblical Christianity by the mercy

and grace of Jesus Christ.

His name is Steve Cooley.

He's an associate pastor at Bethlehem Bible Church in West Boylston, Massachusetts.

And for those of you who are interested to the website of that church is BBC Church org

BBC Church org.

But the first question that Steve has is Is

the Mormon Church's evolution on homosexuality, of course, we might consider it a D evolution.

A.

Preview of what we will see in the open but cautious Evangelical Church.

In other words if the canon of Scripture is still open Can we expect to see professing Christians

embracing the sin of homosexuality?

Like Mormons have very interesting question.

Obviously some of that would Require that you're a prophet, but but what are

your comments on that?

We

have

another

question

from

former

Mormon

Steve

Cooley.

And he says has the LDS leadership.

Given any indication that homosexual marriage is soon to be accepted by the church.

The marriage aspect.

That's

the

one

area

and

Steve

Cooley

also

asks.

Why does it seem that an increasing number of Mormons are Democrats?

Is this just my imagination?

No, not at all.

It's pretty remarkable.

This seems to be going back to What we were talking about before about people being more

concerned with the feelings of others than they are their eternal never

dying souls.

And of course Even if Mormons were to maintain a biblical

ethic on sexual relations and You know a

marriage between man and woman monogamy for life, etc they would still be unfortunately and

tragically going to hell if they don't repent of their false religion, but it is interesting to

see that even they would be falling into this concept of You know,

it's more important To avoid risking hurting someone's feelings

than to teach truths that your religion has taught.

For well

over

a

century

in

the

case

of

Mormonism.

Well,

thank you

so

much.

Pastor Steve Cooley of Bethlehem Bible Church in West Boylston, Massachusetts.

We look forward to you not only sending in more questions in the future But we look forward to you returning as a

guest on I interpret on radio and I hope that you and pastor Jason Wallace Develop a friendship as a result of this

Program, I think it would be a very valuable friendship.

Who knows what fruit it may bear.

We have a listener Christian in

Suffolk County, Long Island, New York and Christian says I don't want you to take this the

wrong way, but something about Mormon Church caving in to liberalism

and homosexuality Makes me happy.

And the reason I say that is for the same reason I am delighted with the

current Pope of the Roman Catholic Church Making all kinds of bizarre and heretical statements.

The reason why I'm saying this is that those that are hardcore believers in those religions may be by

the grace of God awakened to the fact that their religions are false and they may Be

more likely to come to a saving faith of Christ God willing.

And what I actually share that feeling of that reaction.

To a degree.

I'm not like jumping for joy about anybody condoning a damnable behavior.

But at the same time I think the listener makes a point.

What do you think about that Jason?

I.

Think it's a double -edged sword on the one hand.

Yes.

That's.

Ironic is you might instinctfully Come to the different the opposite conclusion

because you are Disproving the teachings of a religion that they have already

renounced.

So it is kind of bizarre, isn't it?

Yeah, and.

I.

Would like you to now summarize in about two minutes what you most want to be etched into the hearts and minds of

our listeners today, especially Mormon listeners before we run out of time.

Basically,

we've

created

these

videos

and

and

people

might be

puzzled

by

those.

That you that new kind of URL.

It's not dot org dot com dot net.

It's dot video LDS dot video, correct, correct and and

go ahead.

I'm sorry.

If you just type in LDS video,

okay that big distinction.

And of course the Christ Presbyterian Church of.

Magna, Utah website is gospel, Utah org.

Gospel, Utah org.

I want to let our listeners know That I have an interview scheduled

for January 11th 4 to 6 p .m. Eastern Time with

latency Scott and Lynn Kay Wilder On their book

leaving Mormonism.

Why four scholars change their minds.

I am eventually going to have after that Corey Miller and David Eccles the other two authors of

that book.

So at least to start with mark your calendar for Thursday, January 11th.

I want to thank you so much Pastor Jason's please stay on the line so I could say a proper goodbye to you.

I want to thank everybody who listened and I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives Jesus Christ is a far greater

Savior than you are a sinner.