Dead Men Walking One Year Anniversary: Doug Willson, Dr. Michael Brown, Steven Bancarz, Jeff Durbin
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Welcome to the One Year Anniversary Episode of the Dead Men Walking Podcast! We couldn't have done it without listeners like you! Greg & Jason pulled ten clips that they really enjoyed over the past year from guests that have appeared on the podcast and discussed them. Clips include: Doug Wilson, Doreen Virtue, TJ Sumpter and Chocolate Knox from CrossPolitic, Steven Bancarz, Jeff Durbin, Glenn Sunshine, Dr. Michael Brown, and Rick Flood! Enjoy!
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- 00:12
- Hey what's up Jason. Man dude, just grooving every time that thing plays man.
- 00:18
- I love it. I know I love it too. I'm glad we have a guitar player on the show. I'm putting you to good use bro.
- 00:25
- Man you're gonna have to get some keys on here someday man. Hey we'll do it soon enough. It'll be awesome. I just love your guitar playing.
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- Yeah welcome back to another episode of Dead Men Walking and this is a special episode.
- 00:37
- This is a fun one. Yeah I can't wait to hear all these clips from the year in review.
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- I know we need the review review review right? Sorry I didn't make a drop for that. But yeah this is our one year anniversary show.
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- Yeah man it's wild. So yeah we've our first release was I think
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- April 11th so technically we're a little over a year. Yeah. And then it got re -released on April 29th.
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- There was kind of a two -week weird thing there where I put it out and then pulled it back and then put it back out so right around here.
- 01:12
- We'll just say this is today is our one year and I can't believe that I mean it feels like a year has like crept by but also flown by.
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- You know what I mean? When you look back at it. I just can't believe how much content we've been able to kind of put out you know.
- 01:28
- I don't know or well maybe maybe it's been more guests that have had. Yeah guests. The fact that in that process you've sold a house.
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- Yeah. Farther away. Yeah. We've had COVID going on and I just want to say and for the listeners to say
- 01:46
- I appreciate you being so dedicated to this. Oh man. This was something where you know you have to come over here each week.
- 01:52
- Yeah. We not only put out stuff once a week for full episodes then we have once a week for our shorts that come out every
- 01:59
- Saturday. Yeah. For the last five weeks we've been doing once a week for clubhouse where people jump on. I know we just started the once a month spit out the bones.
- 02:08
- Yeah man. The fact that you've been so committed to this as well it's like it blows my mind first of all.
- 02:14
- We're both we're both sacrificing and for sure all for the glory the glory. Yeah man we're right.
- 02:21
- Yeah this has been a blast. I'd never ever would have thought that I would be on a podcast as I was listening back to some of our first episodes.
- 02:30
- Yeah. I'm just like I'm whispering in the mic. I'm very very shy and very worried about you know and I still
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- I'll be totally honest. I still get worried about what
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- I'm about to say. You know because I always wanted to be thoughtful thought provoking and about the
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- Lord and glorifying edifying him you know. Yeah we've both said some stuff on here we're after the episode because we pre -record most of them
- 03:00
- I think we have pre -recorded almost all of them. There's some been some things I've said I just went you know I don't know if that's the greatest thing that people need to hear.
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- Yeah. And come out the way I wanted it to whether it be a joke or something I said and I think that that's wise that's discerning.
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- Right right yeah. It's not like we're holding back certain things because we believe them and oh we don't want people to hear them.
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- Right right. You know when you talk a lot. Yeah. I mean we've got over 500 hours of content out there now.
- 03:26
- That's crazy. We're approaching 750 ,000 downloads. I'm not sure I've talked of 500 hours.
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- Well you have now this year you have. You know this is gonna be episode 63 regular episode.
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- We have 28 shorts. We have you know so we've got over a hundred different episodes out.
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- It's crazy. Within a year we've been busy. Yeah yeah man. And God has blessed it. He's allowed us to both be in professions where we can set aside time to do this and we both have families and businesses we run and commitments but all glory to God.
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- Oh yeah man. So this is our one year anniversary show and what we wanted to do basically go back.
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- We we pulled 10 clips and they're both about a minute or two long. They ranged you know in between that and we just wanted to you know go back and kind of have you guys listen to some of the things that people said on here that Jason and I either really liked or resonated with us or maybe it was a funny moment that we really appreciated and laughed at and we each pulled about five clips each and neither one of us pulled the same clips which yeah yeah which was awesome which means we like different parts of the show.
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- You know what's funny when you told me that you pulled the Doug Wilson quote I was like okay all right I'm not gonna have to give for Doug Wilson quotes because I probably would have done that with his 10 -minute interview.
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- Like he said something cool here here here and here. Right yeah so what we're gonna do guys on this show is we will play the clip maybe we'll line it up for you a little bit play the clip let you listen to it and then maybe we'll comment on it and we'll just run through our top 10 in no particular order but 10 that we just liked and like I said they resonated with us.
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- So let's start off with the first clip this is episode 53 and all these you guys can find on the website at www .dmwpodcast
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- .com or heck just type in dead men walking podcast in Google we're gonna come up in Apple and Spotify and Alexa and Pandora and all those places where you get your podcasts you can find us anywhere or you can go to our
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- YouTube channel type in dead men walking podcast we're there as well you can see every one of these episodes in video as well if that's kind of your flavor but this was episode 53 with Doreen Virtue and she just was explaining a little bit about how she got saved now as you know
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- Jason Doreen Virtue was just like she was it in the new age world I mean best -selling author millions of dollars of revenue right into the crystals and the new age into yoga
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- I mean she was teaching other people how to be new age and then the Lord radically saved right she was channeling well she thought there were angels that were giving her information on for her books obviously demons so but yeah she was very very into the new age and praise
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- God she came out of it and she went into reformed teaching and yeah
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- I mean she has just really blessed so lives and that I mean her heart I mean I you hear it you hear it in that episode and I loved
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- I love talking to her I really aunt or something right just come over and visit all right guys so this is from episode 53
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- Doreen Virtue you know that's because I always thought I was a Christian but I had this
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- I thought that all paths led to God you know I have the whole universalism belief and so I would listen to a sermon from a
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- Buddhist monk and then and then a Hindu and then a Christian and and I would just say oh you know they're all saying the same thing to the same
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- God I didn't know because I again I hadn't said studied the Bible so I was
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- I would listen to Christian radio all the time when Chuck Smith was alive I was watching listening to Calvary Chapel radio daily
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- I would call in you know so that's why I can see when I look back the Lord in my life all those years sharing the gospel with me but as Paul talks about in in his letters you you're blind you're spiritually blind to the gospel that it's foolishness to those who are perishing and that was me
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- I didn't think that Jesus really died on the cross I didn't even know who Jesus was in the
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- New Age they say he's a mortal man it created being who was a really good role model for us and that he after he died he's in the sky they call him an ascended master and he's he's helping us from the sky you know so it's really a very immature view of Jesus yeah and I always thought he was my spirit guide you know my wish granter so I was very word of faith when
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- I look at the New Apostolic Reformation churches and they are I can see myself in those false prophets
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- Wow yeah and then she got into that episode a little bit talking about like NAR and and the
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- New Apostolic Reformation and yeah Bethel and kind of how she sees you know as someone who was in the
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- New Age that being influenced by that right and you know I really hear her whenever she does speak on those that subject
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- I hear her really weeping for for that crowd and really you know having a heart for them yeah and you know that's one big thing about Doreen if you guys get a chance please do go check out some of her material on her website and on YouTube yeah yeah she's all over but an amazing woman of God yeah it doesn't come from a place of condensation it really comes from a place of sending yeah yeah you know of wanting to to really set someone in mm -hmm you know all right so the next one we have and that was episode 53 you guys can check that out the next one we have we've had on twice mr.
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- Glenn sunshine yeah probably one of my favorite guys to talk to because he's so meek yeah he's just reserved but the guy is just so darn smart yeah and he has kind of a very professor feel you know theology theological type answer to everything yeah but he doesn't get too heady no
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- I mean you can understand what he's saying right and he seems to have an answer you know he does what about this yeah yeah well
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- I I had first saw Glenn sunshine and by what standard that movie that came out
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- I think was last year two years ago couple of years yeah and then we saw him his booth was right next to ours at fight left feet right yeah yeah we were just like hey would you mind getting on our podcast he was like yeah sure
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- I'll come over and you know he comes over and I'm pretty sure Greg and I were just kind of sitting there just like this guy is so smart what we should ask him next you know but that was totally awesome
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- I didn't even know who Glenn sunshine was oh and you were like dude we got to have him on yeah I'm to come on super and he jumped on this is from the second time he appeared just a few weeks ago actually episode 60 and he's talking a little bit about separation of church and state so here's
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- Glenn sunshine from episode 60 first of all the answer let's let's deal with the thing you don't have the right to bring your religious faith in you don't have the right to impose your religion uh there's a separation of church and state you you can't bring your religion into the public square okay so let me ask this question then if I am not allowed to advocate for my values why are you allowed to advocate for yours because if in fact if in fact we're talking about no you know no special privilege given to religion but also given the way the first amendment is written you can't deprive people religious people of their rights either why is it that only secular people get the right to advocate for their viewpoint religious people cannot that's nonsense right well because non -religion by any standard yeah non -religion is a viewpoint is it is a religion in itself yeah absolutely so I think that just by the terms of their question they're basically saying freedom of religion means we can do and advocate and fight for whatever we want and you have to shut up yeah yeah yeah it's so good that was such a great point that he made yeah he's just going look at what's good for the goose is good for the gander like why do you get to advocate for your religion by not advocating for someone else's
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- I mean not to not to bring up politics I mean we're gonna have to but you know there's there's just a certain party right now that is has a double standard that we are seeing and no not not not either side both sides are at fault here okay it's uh you know
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- I'm not trying to down one or other party but it seems like we're at the moment um there's more from one side um but anyway
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- I yeah I just find that clip just I mean just blows my mind whenever yeah
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- I've listed that a few times now yeah and you guys can see him on the newest season of man rap it with Doug Wilson yeah uh he's all over the internet um all you know you can just google
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- Glenn sunshine with two n's g l e n n uh and then look go listen to on pug uh podcast right yes yeah theology podcast was cr wiley and yes we recommend a lot of other podcasts here yes we do yes absolutely we're not the only ones in town no if we think you can get some value out of it go listen to it
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- I listen to it a lot yeah um and it's just it's just really good stuff and that that was episode uh 60 with Glenn sunshine if you guys want to go back and listen to that in our catalog so the next one moving right along episode 24 of our dead men walking shorts so this was something the shorts we can talk about that for a minute too we started these about halfway through our one year
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- I think I think I can't remember when our first one well 30 weeks ago so it's been a while was it mid -january or was it was it this year yeah it might have been
- 13:36
- December actually okay well we don't know we don't know our own podcast either way uh I think we're only about 25 or 30 and deep on these once a week these are five minutes or we take a theological subject or a doctrinal issue or a definition that's in the christian kind of culture and we just chat about it for a little bit maybe try to explain it expand on it a little bit but keep it to five minutes just so it's quick you know you can listen to it very quickly get an idea of of an idea and that's saturdays right that's released every saturday and at first I thought
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- I don't know if someone would go for a five -minute podcast man there are like most popular ones yeah and I've had multiple people go
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- I love those five minute right you know just a few weeks ago in our clubhouse we had a listener come in hey I love those little five minute things you do
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- I just went wow so they're really ministering to people yeah this one is uh what do we say it's it's from the one titled exegesis and it's talking about pulling out scripture and not reading ourselves into scripture yep so this is from uh episode 24 of our dead men walking shorts take a listen eisegesis is one is really easy to fall into because we do want to read into the text and make it personally relatable the challenge is once you read something in context like we said historical context and biblical context and all those things is then to relate it within the context of that paul talking to jews paul talking to gentiles well if paul's talking to gentiles we might be as gentiles right as non -jews be able to relate to that more easy but with paul talking to jews there's also something to learn there there's a principle there we just can't insert ourselves into that incorrectly just because it's easier to do so we have to take that extra step of biblical study and say nope we have to rightly rightly read it rightly interpret it with exegesis instead of eisegesis and inserting ourselves into it and making it easy and unfortunately a lot of your popular sermons are eisegesis right now in the evangelical church that says oh man you know the ted talk the ted talk yeah right a few weeks ago we had glenn sunshine on and he was talking about how a church is a concert a ted talk and eisegesis lends itself to that very easily because it's all about the listener and not about god and i hate to break it to you or maybe i don't hate to but the bible is about christ right that's what the entire bible is about wait a second yeah i like your head leaving the waiter oh yeah so uh those like i said those have been really popular if you guys are new listeners make sure you check out the uh the little five minute shorts that are released every saturday and if you have suggestions yeah send them in to us and we'll try to cover them for you always send them in yeah so next on the list too is episode 24 from our uh full length episodes that release every wednesday and this was the first time we had the cross politic guys on right and you love you you love some cross politic right love cross politic yes sir yeah man those dudes are awesome and we're gonna see them here uh next week we're flying out to the fight laugh feast conference to live podcast there we're gonna bring you guys all kinds of great content from that so make sure you're sticking around we might do some live video stuff like we did last time um record some episodes there but this one was one of those things where we talk about serious issues but we still like to have fun yeah right and i don't even think when we recorded this episode we had no because they came on before we went down to nashville right yeah you had gotten a hold of gabe i want to say and then yeah you guys kind of talked and he was like yeah we'll come on your on your podcast sweet okay so we've been listening to cross politic for a while uh jason knew about them even more than i did because i've said it multiple times jason was like we got to get down there and go do this and i was like sure okay just for the ride and then it was one of the best three days of my life i really enjoyed it uh and this is uh chocolate knox talking about mass and the effectiveness of mass and i wanted to include this because uh he comes up with a kind of uh unique medical comparison so take a listen can i just let me just okay i'm sorry go ahead this is this is driving me i am so sick of the master this is driving me so let me try and put it this way for people okay this is gonna be a little crass but i want you to think about this for a second think about a fart okay a fart is the size of a beach ball okay and i want to think about a virus is a grain of sand okay right when you have on your pants you have on the same type of protecting okay same kind of potential you have your pants there's a cloth and then you have another garment before that okay if you can smell it the beach ball is getting through you know what's great mine don't stink he's making a so we're good he's actually making a sound medical argument 60 percent of the time it works every time oh man do we have fun with those guys oh man that was so much fun you just hear pastor toby just cracking up here like i cannot believe we're talking about farts beach balls and it was funny that he brought that up though because i had put a a post on facebook okay back in like march or april whenever um it you know the covid lockdown was first starting yeah and uh there was an actual medical uh i don't know uh like a report that came out you know and and yeah they actually brought that up really yeah so like when he started talking about i was just like did he read the same one that i did because i you know i thought it was a joke but i mean it's true though it's true gosh but that whole episode was good go back and listen to that that's episode 24 in the catalog so the next one we have uh which uh we're both uh jason and i both big fans of is doug wilson oh yeah and we got to sit down and talk to him down at the fight left feast conference he jumped on and he talked a little bit about what he was speaking on at that conference which was the principle verse the methods of war and i just thought it was so interesting that we had to clip it and we wanted you guys to listen to it again so here take a listen doug wilson uh episode 29 can you give us a little preview of maybe one of the uh principles the principles are so let me give you the big takeaway that i would like i think can't be repeated too often because i'd this is what like everybody should come away with principles are constant and timeless methods change all the time so so the principles of war are the same whether you're fighting with rocks or with bows and arrows or with lances or with cannons or with nuclear warheads sure all right the meth those are all methods okay okay those are all methods weapons and tactics so the principles of war applied in the vietnam war and the korean war and in the uh the warfare um atilla the hun you know it doesn't matter where yeah but what happens is uh especially when a country is technologically advanced they start trusting in their technology or their weapons instead of the principles okay so makes sense i'm tracking so far so uh in vietnam vietnam one of the reasons why the viet cong were able to fight us to a standstill even though they were a third world backwater country and we were a first rate superpower okay is they obeyed the principles of war and we didn't okay okay so what happens is neglect neglect of these principles neutralizes neutralizes the technological or weaponry advantage kind of put you on the same playing field but yeah it equalizes everything equalizes yeah and this is why christians uh christians need to think in terms of principles not methods wow yeah that's so good that whole his whole uh speech or sermon or teaching what everyone talked about was so good it was a great yeah it's it's what really separates like i've been thinking things like that for 10 years but he can articulate those things so well that's what makes a great teacher yeah you know like i understood yeah principles are different than methods and i'm always talking about being principled but the way he does it even in his books and stuff too it just you just go yeah that's exactly analogies and the way he explains it right it kind of opens up your mind a little bit to go yeah christian should be principally based and not method based because methods change principles don't god doesn't change right that's the godly way to advance the kingdom yeah exactly yeah i mean you know the great commission he takes seriously um we take seriously um and that's why we always talk about it on this podcast yeah but um but yeah no doug wilson is awesome and again we're going to say it again but you guys really should get the canon press app yeah we're big promoters of that yeah man a lot of his material is on there and he covers everything from the family um to uh government culture yeah government eschatology everything i mean he he digs he digs deep yeah and uh he you know and it makes sense it's biblical it makes sense and yeah i think you really really really like it awesome well this next one that we wanted you to hear uh this is another one where jason was like we got to get this guy on and he went out and got him and uh i had not really followed this gentleman uh that closely i'd heard the name he hadn't watched any of the videos and then once he was coming on the podcast i started doing that like crash course research you know because you don't want to you don't want to say something or ask a question that you know he does he's already been asked or something like that yeah or doesn't want to hear so i started getting into him and wow what a blessing this guy was when he came on what a brother in the lord we don't exactly uh align theologically with every single thing but then again there's been guests on here that we don't right right maybe they're secondary issues you don't have to uh but jason went out and got him it was steven bankars from episode uh number 48 so if you want to listen to it go back it's number 48 he was on for almost two hours yeah we clipped it down to like an hour and a half i think it was uh he just was so generous with his time and we got into all kinds of stuff we did man we we went a little wild on that episode but it was great reform stuff yoga poses uh ufos aliens government takeovers like all this stuff because he was another guy young kid in the new age making fifty thousand dollars a month on his website uh you know advising other people in the new age once again the lord steps in saves him and he basically says to all his followers and all his website traffic hey guys i believe in jesus i believe in jesus i'm serving christ and they were like what yeah and a lot of them stuck around and he said a lot of them got saved because of the witness but in this episode this one was kind of fun because he started talking about ufos yeah we're like well if we got a guy that's in the former new age right right he talks a lot about the spiritual world all that stuff we wanted to hear his uh his take on his take on it and we clipped it down to like two minutes so definitely go check out the full episode because it's well worth that hour and a half and he actually does hold the record right now for most downloads out of any of our episodes more than anyone else he's he just topped 7 000 listens on that and i think it's because too he's big online yeah his youtube channel has millions of people he's always posting stuff and it's really good so here's a short clip of steven bankars episode 48 talking about ufos so i think that a lot of what we're seeing um in the ufo type community in the alien research that's coming out there's different buckets we can put these things into there's two primary buckets that people um will often lump alien encounters and phenomenon into they aren't mutually exclusive but um one's called the interdimensional hypothesis the other is called the extraterrestrial hypothesis so the interdimensional hypothesis is that we're dealing with spiritual beings we're dealing with spirit beings who live on a higher dimension a higher plane who are trying to make contact with the physical world and it though it's a ufo in the sky when really it's another being from a higher dimension trying to manifest himself physically into three dimensions when he lives on a fourth plane so it's like here's an analogy so here this piece of paper this is a flat plane okay um you guys will probably like this it's true as we can yeah i don't confess several of these truths oh come on we'll get him there we'll get rid of him we're done oh man so i had to clip that down right there because that goes until like a like a 20 minute explanation yeah and i just wanted to give a little taste of that right so for those of you listening right now like hey we didn't even get into all the ufo stuff well go listen to that episode it's episode number 48 it's really good he gives like because that's a um that's actually go look at that one on youtube because he gives a visual aid to that explanation which was kind of fun but uh yeah jason i'm so glad you got him on there we're gonna have to have him on again man i would love to have him back on yeah because we like really it felt like we just barely touched on stuff and 90 minutes flew by it was it was another glenn sunshine right doug wilson let's get you know i mean i'm sure we could have every guest back on and just have a another great episode but uh yeah the the the short 30 to 40 minutes with some people it's just like man it flies by because it's so much fun it's so informational you know we're learning too at the same time so yeah it's awesome but that was a good one so he gets into ufos there a little bit and i would definitely check that out episode 48 so the next one is one that i have to admit i i picked because i love dad jokes and i love when uh jason tells dad jokes on the podcast this was one where geez i think we were just about six months in or so maybe maybe a little it was still summertime i think when rick came over yeah yeah so rick's a worship leader jason has played worship been in a band obviously as you know um i've led here and there and played worship for jesus the last 15 years so it's kind of this fun little gang of three musicians talking about uh worship music and things like that this is from episode number 25 this is a little clip where i loved it because uh it was two musicians two believers and uh jason tried to stump him with a dad joke and rick knew right where he was going so listen to this with rick flood from episode 25 so we had a listener a shout out to taylor she reached out to him on instagram and she said hey would you guys like just talk about media influence in music meaning uh worship music secular music and kind of what worship and praise music is and i've led worship before i know you have uh jason guitar yes you played guitar and bass and we've got rick here who is a worship leader and plays music and i went man this would be a good subject for us three to just uh you know sit around and talk about i also love hanging out with musicians it's kind of like that little club you're in you know it's kind of you hear stand -up comics talking about being in their stand -up comic club with musicians it's kind of the same way there's certain jokes and certain things and we just have a do you guys know what what my favorite chord is oh let me is it g sauce yes it is we like dad jokes around here bro oh my gosh oh yeah did you two just become best friends we should have shared the love we should have gone for it oh my gosh do you like avocados it's guacamole that's right it was funny a few episodes ago he said i said something like you know keyboardists never get any respect he just just flatly goes yeah as they should they should get in and we lost it it was like 10 minutes of laughing because it's so true oh man i had to include that because we have fun on this that's so much fun i mean like really dude it's like we we get into so much serious you know conversation on here we really do but at the same time like we're just a couple goofballs just trying to have a good time as well so you know whenever we can whenever we can break the tension at times it's like yeah let's just throw this out there see what happens you know yeah and that was back before we had the studio we have now to where we had some like leather couches and that reference that rick's making to share the love seat is it was basically like a love seat and like a chair and i would always take the chair and it was me and jason we take the love seat but then when we'd have a guest and it was like really tight on that love seat yeah yeah to where you start pulling in another chair and that was the uh joke there we should take the love seat we're best friends now but that was episode uh 25 so that was uh in the first half of our year um with pastor rick flood so go check that out if you guys uh want to listen to just a fun episode of us talking about music worship music and all the light all right so the next one we have is this is the first time we went back to the same episode so we're going back to episode number 24 with cross politic but i had to include it because i just really loved what pastor tj said here he was talking about mass and religion and he just said something that was so potent and i think it still holds true i don't even really want to explain it too much i just want you guys to listen so here's tj from our cross politic episode episode number 24 um that there is no part of life um that's not religious that's right and so it's just another way of getting at the same thing and you said everything's being politicized which is true but actually what you're what we're finding is that this politicization is actually highly religious um there's there's more i mean and so so one of my deep concerns about the masking thing is that um i i probably some legitimate use of medical masks in some context bacteria for some things right primarily for bacteria and so on um and i and science -based great use that and so on but what's happened is it's actually become a symbol for solidarity that's right with the state and you see people going into these stores and it's almost like they're crossing themselves and dipping their finger in holy water when they they put their covering they put the covering on their face to go in to get the things and do the holy thing and the kind of offense that that that they have if you don't do it is it's like you committed blasphemy you've sinned against uh this this religion of solidarity and and so i don't know and then add to that meanwhile meanwhile you know black lives matter is having their worship services right come on now um and burning down buildings and looting targets and now mlb and nfl and naba start their seasons up and what are they doing they're kneeling down in a in a pseudo liturgical religious posture holding some stupid black fabric across the field yeah um which is again like it's like their own rosary and and they're saying their hail marys they've got the hail marys on the backs of their jerseys it's it's but what happens is that when you try to drive out religion try to drive out jesus yeah it's not like there's actually you don't leave a vacuum there's not something left empty something has to replace it the gods rush in the demons rush in you leave it clean and swept and and some of the religion takes its place because people are are inescapably religious we will worship something someone it's just a question of who and so our the problem with our our modern state is not that it's unreligious is that it's actually completely religious but it's completely pagan wow yeah man you just got me fired up between that and the organ rage brother wow that was like a little sermon we got there pastor toby man he brings it and i mean i don't know if you've have you gotten into blood bought world yet not yet it is so good that's where i'm going next yeah he has a great book out called uh blood bought world and uh man he just he just gets after it and it's a lot a lot like that i mean just he just brings up things that you know and and just like doug wilson like i mean toby does the same stuff you know i mean he he brings up these topics and really makes you think about it and look look where we're at six months later since he said that you know now it's there's a new thing it's like if you don't vaccinate yeah you know you're all of a sudden you know the person that doesn't care about everybody else you're supposed to conform to everybody else and sure you know if you don't then romans 13 you need to listen you know and it's like man what are you talking about you know like like don't don't go off on that stuff christ church has supreme authority over any government or any agency yeah you know and i just really love his point of look at when you remove christ from a country it's not like it just sits there in empty space right it's a vacuum there's something else that replaces it yeah that's called statism so true we see that in secularism and atheism that the statism is the religion yeah yeah so check that guys out on episode 24 uh with the cross politic guys all right moving on we got a couple more here i had to pull the jeff durbin clip because you and i are both big fans of jeff oh yeah uh that was our first interview at fight left feast so this is another live one we're with marcus uh i think it was or were we with no that one we were with jeremiah yeah that's right from cultish which they've been on the uh they we didn't put them in the clips here tonight but cultish was another good one yeah that's another podcast we support yeah and that we really like so jeff durbin was walking by at the fight left feast conference in nashville or outside of nashville and we said hey man you want to jump on and talk a little bit he just talked a little bit about and it really spoke to me as well about making sure you're intentional with your podcast like everyone wants to have a podcast right and you can do it now or not everyone wants to but anyone can make a podcast make sure you're you're doing it for the glory of the lord yeah um so that one was with jeff durbin let's listen to that this is episode 27 but uh yeah i mean our church is uh has a very very significant commitment to uh proclamation of the gospel in the public square which is really what cultish is about i mean um for us it's not just a matter of uh you know starting a podcast i think one of the things that i said to jerry early on was now everyone wants to start a podcast everyone wants to you know everyone you know has a mic and a computer and podcast no but i i it could be a very positive thing or but i think the challenge is this a lot of times you can even see in the last say 68 68 years or so of podcasts even in the reform world a lot of solid podcasts pop up and then they disappear they go away and i think that's what jerry's talking about it's just niche little market this one little corner sort of talking to yourselves not really engaging in the things that most people are facing every single day we want to we want to do that we want to bring the gospel in the biblical world view into the public square we think jesus is lord over everything not just over matters of the church amen uh so when we hear joe rogan talking about dmt experiences and encourage people or ufos we think jesus has authority over that conversation we want to bring the gospel into that conversation it has to do with issues going on with the government justice black lives matter marxism all those things we want to address those things and the really great thing about having a a podcast that reaches into the public square that can really bring the christian world view into contact with all those things is you also never run out of content yeah wow i love that good good advice too for anyone who wants to get into podcasting it is i was just talking to someone last week who goes man i should start a podcast it's like if you're a believer put the lord first yeah be biblically based make sure you're bringing glory to him and then have at it man i think that i think the biggest thing that people just they don't think about is that you know there's there's opportunity all over the place to share the gospel you know i mean even even if you don't have a hundred people listening to your podcast even if it is only five people guess what those five people are there to hear the gospel you know yeah and it's like that that moment matters but even if you don't think you have much to say i mean step up to the plate just step up to the plate i mean that's what i do every single week i mean i feel like you know i i i've studied i've studied scripture and i have so much more to learn i i can tell you that i admit that you know like i mean there's so many more topics that i could probably learn a lot more about but guess what like i just want to step up to the plate with the truth that that uh the holy spirit's given me and i mean it's like i just want to bring the gospel i just want to tell people about jesus and i want to talk about jesus and i want all of us to grow you know together you know this isn't this isn't a one -man show you know like like i don't care if you listen to dr michael brown if you listen to apology or studios if you listen to the fighting yeah whoever it is like this is not a one -man show on the human level it is a one -man show when it comes to christ right you know like like that's who it's all about the bible is all about christ right we've already said that like it's not about us right yeah um but just just remember that if you're out there you you really whatever you bring to the table in the kingdom whatever god has given you yeah like think about those that talent that god has given you and use it like don't be afraid i mean it you know like there might be a moment where you know you you may uh you may get way too nervous or way too much pushback or whatever but i mean just just really think about who you know like who god has made you to be and live that out because christ gave you that talent for a reason you know and even if you think it's not a talent guess what moses didn't think he had much i mean like i mean there's plenty of there's plenty of biblical uh characters that would like we could bring up you know like i mean so so anyway just uh just throwing that little tidbit out there just step up to the plate and you know share the gospel i mean that's that's the biggest anyway oh man i was i was the whole time you were talking i was trying to find my organ drop because you were straight preaching dude i couldn't find it in yeah yeah but no you're so right it's yeah and you know you don't even have to have a podcast right to do what the lord calls us to do the great commission just says as you go out into the world yeah right yeah uh i don't think anyone who has a couple microphones and records it is on any different levels than someone who is i would even say if you're out in the out in the community yeah you're even doing the lord's work uh you know as he's called us to do it as we're out making you know uh connections with people and things like that so you're in the bread aisle you're absolutely man go ahead and bring some wine over and then take the supper right there you got the communion going okay that depends on where your theology lies on that too yeah yeah i'm sorry i have to have to do an episode on that hey it should be wine it should be wine should be wine yes we both agree on that or but closed or open you know right right yeah yeah for sure oh but man yeah so let's get to our last clip here so this last one here is from episode 50 now we had dr michael brown on another one that we have you know he's not reformed so we don't have a hundred percent agreement on all secondary issues but at the same time uh i know brother he's a brother and i know both jason and i he he's touched our lives with some of the stuff he does dividing line his radio shows millions of people every no dividing line or not dividing line i'm sorry in the line of fire yeah that's right my mind too it has a line in it oh for sure yeah yeah which that's funny too because him and james white are kind of like yeah they're they're buddies they disagree about stuff so yeah sorry dividing line is james white in the line of fire uh his radio show millions of people every day listen to it um and he came on the podcast and he was really talking about the cost of the lgbtq community to the church so this is from episode 50 it's our last clip we want you to listen to a little dr michael brown take a listen when i was in canada last year i met the man involved with this particular case his daughter is 14 from what i understood he and his wife were separated she's 14 years old and she believes that she's male she's 15 now and at that point she wanted to begin to undergo hormone treatments to begin to change her so that when she's a little older she could have sex change surgery this would also stop the the female development from going any further 14 years old he doesn't want her to do that it goes to the court the court stands with the 14 year old against the father's wishes and and i met the man i met him face to face this is not some myth and then the court said if you refer to her by her female name obviously they would say refer to him right right refer to her by her female name or use a female pronoun with reference to her in public or in private you go to jail go to jail now of course he was going on doing what was right he was ignoring this but this is this is what it has come to it is all around the world you know you you have a street preacher in england and he's preaching a message and and doesn't mention homosexuality doesn't say a word about it someone comes up and questions him directly what do you say about this is well the bible teaches this but jesus died for all sinners next thing the guy's arrested wow and he's got to defend himself over these charges so it's happening in different countries and and those who were the oppressed despised marginalized minority now that they have more power in society and have allies working with them again from their perspective this is the new civil rights movement uh uh joe biden said in january of this year make no mistake about it transgender rights are the new civil rights of the days it used to be gay rights now transgender rights so we don't want to be bigots we've made terrible mistakes already with race issues and and slavery and segregation we don't want to do that again so this is now presented as the new civil rights movement and if you dare take issue with it you might be bounced out of your college you may be bounced out of your job i know people that this has happened to personally wow so powerful he's done a lot of work on that over the last 10 years yeah i mean just hammering you know kind of how we talk about vati and how he talks about cultural marxism over the last 10 -15 years michael brown's been at the forefront of this yeah being a warning beacon of look at if you allow this church this is what's going to happen and he's been right so he was one of the perfect people to come on and kind of talk about those type of things and if you guys want to hear that whole episode it's episode number 50 but dr michael brown was awesome it was it was pretty good yeah but yeah so that's those are the clips man yeah so i went through 10 clips with you guys um i gotta tell you man i am just astounded by the comments we get yeah and the support we get and we couldn't do any of this without the people listening right right i want the bottom of our heart at the one -year anniversary of this show i didn't even know if it was going to go a year i didn't know what it was going to be jason didn't know i mean episode two i called jason i was like hey you want to be on a podcast right right i've never no yeah right sure yes was like well and then he's been here every week for the last year just had a baby yeah just had a newborn baby covid you know uh i guess i'll try it out i'm not much of a talker i'm like you know you say that but when you say something it means something you know hey step up to the plate are you calling me aaron the one who made the false uh the golden but seriously i mean i totally want to thank all the listeners everyone who comments sends us messages uh you know likes our youtube videos writes comments for us on a lot on the apple page i mean it just helps promote the show and bring glory to god doesn't promote us right like jason and i from the bottom of our hearts and i think i can speak on your behalf because we had this conversation jason we have literally said this isn't to get rich no we don't charge for any ads that you hear it isn't to get famous god knows we don't want fame right like we want god to be glorified in everything that we do yeah right yeah and and that's what we want for this podcast and it's not this many listeners or we're going to this conference or we're doing that we just want the lord to be glorified and if that takes two guys like us working through our sanctification loving the word of god reading it trying to explain it try to talk about it try to learn about it yeah even from our guests or people we have on or even when iron is sharpening iron when you and i do an episode and it's like oh yeah that's yeah so awesome that you know you got that out of that scripture that chapter whatever it is i mean that's what gets me excited it is man i mean just whenever you open up the word i mean you know it's like all of it tends to blow my mind so it's like sometimes i'll find one verse and i'll just sit on it for a little while so i mean like like i said earlier there's so much to learn there's so much that uh that that we could we could pick apart and and you know try to learn alongside of all of you and and a lot of our listeners probably know more and they're probably sitting out there going what what did you just say you know but i mean guess what man we're all on the same team and uh you know what god is being glorified and that's what matters absolutely so yeah that's gonna wrap up uh this episode of our one -year episode i will say this very quickly and for those of you who've hung in for the uh 45 minutes we appreciate it we've got some other guests coming on the first year's been i mean i don't even think we're gonna have half those guests i can't believe when you drop names like doug wilson jeff durbin michael brown glenn sunshine gary demar i mean there's so many we didn't include in this 10 that you guys just need to go back and listen because they're so quality we've got even more coming up and a couple that you're working on jason too where you guys are going to listen to these episodes and go oh my gosh i love that guy uh we can't really talk about it right now but in the in the coming months so the next year is going to be even better yeah we truly believe that and obviously right now watch out for us next week in uh south dakota rapid city oh yeah for the next fight left feast but guys thanks so much for everything that you do like i said make sure uh you visit dmwpodcast .com
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