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It is good to be with you here this evening.
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We only have a limited amount of time, and obviously that means that our discussion will have to be on
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the general themes of our topic.
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But I said a long time ago that it would have been much easier for my ministry if
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there were certain topics that I never touched.
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There would be far more doors open to me, far more places to go,
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and some of those topics would be, for example, dealing with the subject of Roman
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Because everybody has an Aunt Sally who's a Roman Catholic, who's just the sweetest lady on the earth, so you don't want to say anything about
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the current Pope, who is a hippie from South America, who actually doesn't
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really believe a lot of Roman Catholicism, but that's a whole other topic.
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And Islam, we've tried to actually do presentations on Islam in a lot of
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places, and they wouldn't allow us in if we didn't have special insurance.
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Because if you're going to talk about Islam, we want bomb insurance, you know, and stuff like that.
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And I really found amongst a lot of Christians, it's sort of like, yeah, you go ahead and do that, we're not really all that
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interested in learning how to love our Muslim neighbors.
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Though you have Muslim neighbors here, you may not see a whole lot of them, but as I mentioned last time, as I was driving in, there's an
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Islamic center in your town here.
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So that means you do have Muslim neighbors.
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But undoubtedly, to address what we're calling
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the doctrines of grace, how many of you
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would feel confident that you know what the first written
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debate of the Reformation was?
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Remember four years ago when we were all wearing Luther 500 t -shirts and all the
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And yeah, it was four years ago that we were celebrating, or getting ready to celebrate, October,
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the 500th anniversary of the beginning of the Reformation.
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Now, of course, that date was arbitrary anyways.
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But as it may, we were all excited.
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I was in Germany right now.
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I had the incredible opportunity of preaching from Luther's pulpit in the castle church in
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Wittenberg a little over four years ago right now.
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That's really an arbitrary number.
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But the first written debate between a well -known,
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now outside of the Catholic fold person and someone within Roman
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Catholicism was between Martin Luther and a man by the
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name of Desiderius Erasmus.
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Now, Erasmus you may have heard of before because Erasmus was a great scholar in
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languages, textual history.
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He was the one to first produce and publish the Greek New Testament in a written
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Luther used his Greek New Testament in his studies that led him to an understanding of justification by faith.
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But Erasmus was a good Dutch humanist scholar.
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Humanist didn't mean back then the same thing it means today.
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But they debated what subject?
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Well, Luther's book was called On the Bondage of the Will.
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And so Luther debated Erasmus on whether
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man's will is autonomous.
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Well, autos, he, she, or it, but when it's used in a certain way, self.
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And namos is law, self -law.
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So an autonomous person is a person who has a law unto themselves.
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An autonomous will is a free will that is not under, for example, the decree
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of God, fate, anything else.
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It is an absolute free will, autonomy.
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And so Luther plainly taught that man's will
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That man did not have a free will in the sense of an autonomous will.
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There's a difference between an autonomous will and a free will.
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Now, philosophers have used terms in a lot of
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And so sometimes free will is simply defined as man acting
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on the desires presented to his will by his nature.
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And so if you have a fallen nature, your nature presents fallen desires.
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But it might, there might be multiple fallen desires.
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I mean, you can think of a fallen person who has
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conflicting desires on a real basic level.
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I happen to think that dark chocolate covered almonds are wonderful.
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I think they are, they're a clear, stop that.
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They're a clear demonstration that God loves us, that we have dark chocolate covered almonds.
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And so when I'm, if I'm looking at that, those dark chocolate covered almonds
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in my camper over there, I can have two conflicting desires presented
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And if I wasn't a Christian, the same fallen unredeemed nature.
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And that is why they taste really good, and I want to have about 20 more of them.
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And then the other desire is, yeah, but you're eventually going to weigh 487 pounds.
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And so both of those desires could come from the fallen nature, and they could be in competition with one another.
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The issue in the Reformation, and ever since then, and before then, all the way back into the
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days of Augustine, the issue was not can man have multiple desires, and
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can man's fallen nature present multiple kinds of desires, but
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can man's fallen nature present the desire to do what is right
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in God's sight for the right reasons?
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The nature may say to us, you better do what God says, or he's going to zap you, but that's not the right reason.
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Can those who are according to the flesh do what is pleasing to God?
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Now, it's not fair for me to put it that way, because you know the answer to that, if you've ever read the eighth chapter of Romans.
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And Erasmus, being the good Roman Catholic, Roman Catholicism, while
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admitting to original sin and the fallenness of man,
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insists, and has to insist, that man's will has a measure of autonomy, because
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the sacramental system is the means by which you receive grace, and so you have to have that freedom of the will to
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work the sacramental system, so as to receive forgiveness of sins, and
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grace to overcome sin, and things like that.
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And so, Luther, in writing, and if you read the bondage of the will, well, if you read
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anything by Luther, just be aware of the fact that he wrote in a different day
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It has been said, and this is true, in the exchanges between
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one particular one of his enemies, in England,
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a Roman Catholic archbishop in England, between he and Luther, who they
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wrote a number of works against each other, that it's very plain that both
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of them made an effort to use every Latin term
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that could possibly describe excrement of each other.
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Including some that no one had ever really thought of before, but Luther and this other guy decided to do it anyways.
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So, there's some rough language, and most of you know that Luther
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talked about the utilization of flatulence as a means of getting rid of the devil and attacking
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the Pope, and a few things like that.
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So, if you're going to go out tonight and start reading some Luther, just be prepared that he grew up as a German
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peasant, and it was not an overly cultured upbringing in that particular
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But in Luther's response to Erasmus, he said this, he said,
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I appreciate you, Erasmus, of all of my opponents, you alone have put your
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finger on the heart of the issue, the hinge upon which this all
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And he was talking about the Reformation, he was talking about preaching of justification by faith, he was talking about the gospel.
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And Luther said, you recognize the key issue here is whether man is a slave to sin or
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Today, the vast majority of those who call themselves, quote -unquote, Protestants, if they even use
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the term, would stand with Erasmus against Luther.
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They would stand, they're on Rome's side.
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You're in an area where there's a tremendous number of folks from the Church of Christ.
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And the Church of Christ loves to go after Roman Catholicism and
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the papacy and all the rest of that stuff.
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But when it comes to the nature of man and his abilities in the issues of the Reformation, they stand
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They don't know that, but they do.
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Now, this, therefore, creates quite a division when we start talking about how we
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present the gospel, the means you present the gospel, what you believe about the nature of the sinner and
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how you can communicate to the sinner and what is necessary for the sinner to hear the gospel and to embrace the gospel.
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That's extremely important.
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But what is missing in so much of the discussion today about how we
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define the gospel, the great danger that we face today is
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that we live in a deeply secular society.
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The next generation, it stuns me at just how much farther they've gone
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into a fully secular understanding of the world and of themselves.
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And because of that, there is a focus upon the self, self -fulfillment,
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It doesn't really make any sense because in secularism, there is no future for you.
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Once you die, all that is is chemicals stop fizzing.
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Chemicals stop doing what chemicals do and you return back to the dust.
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There is no transcendent meaning.
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There is no value to what you did.
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True secularists, if they will be honest with their worldview, will admit that this is the case.
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And so you've heard all the terminology that's been used.
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Stardust, you're nothing but stardust.
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You are fizzing chemicals.
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I like the Star Trek one that I prefer.
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Ugly bags of mostly water.
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That was an alien description of us, but it's an apt one when you think about it.
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That's just little moist robots.
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So there can be no transcendent meaning.
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The discussion of the will is actually irrelevant.
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And yet, combined with that, once you reject the Western consensus
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that was built upon a Judeo -Christian worldview, once you reject all that, you have this nihilism, this
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But then on the other hand, now you have this, well, then we need to be autonomous at least while we live.
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And so I get to determine my own reality.
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And if I want to be one of 147 genders today, I can be one of 147 genders today.
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And because it's all me and all that matters is what I do right now.
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Because I might die tomorrow and then I won't matter at all to anyone ever.
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So I need to get the gusto now, see?
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And of course that leads to utter chaos.
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You can't build a society that's going to communicate beauty and value and worth to the next
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generation because all you care about is yourself.
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We live in a day where literally, and I'm going to step on some toes here, but literally there have been a lot of people in the
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younger generation today who've been convinced there's just as much value in raising a puppy as a child
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because they don't think of the continuation of the culture or of a nation or of
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It's just whatever is convenient for me, and it's a whole lot more convenient to have a puppy than a kid
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or two kids or I go to Apologia Church, so on average
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eight kids or something like that.
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So this is the situation we face today.
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It's very focused upon us as individuals, and here's the great
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Any discussion of what God has done in Christ, what the gospel is, what God's purpose is in
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preaching the gospel and having us preach the gospel, any discussion that starts with man
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will never ever be able to arrive at the heights of Christian truth about what God is doing.
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You start at the wrong place.
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If we start with the creature and try to reason up from the creature, we'll never come to true knowledge of
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God, and we will certainly never come to a true knowledge of the gospel, and yet
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that's what most people do.
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Most people set up a standard based upon what I observe, what standards I think God needs to
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be this kind of God, and I remember so clearly meeting with a
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lady who came over to my office years and years and years ago.
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I was very young, and she was doing a master's degree at the Keno Institute.
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It's a Roman Catholic Institute, and she had to interview a fundamentalist,
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and so she decided to interview me, and I was
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talking to her about the gospel of grace, and I talked to her about God's sovereign
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election and things like that, and she said, well, wait a minute.
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Are you saying that God chooses to whom He gives His grace?
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I could never worship a God like that, and I said to her, I know.
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Until God works within your heart by His sovereign grace, you never will, and she had just never even
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heard of anything like that.
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If she knew her own history, if she had read Augustine, she would have known that
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this has been a topic of conversation for a long time, but she hadn't.
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But that rejection on the part of man of the idea of a sovereign
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God, we really have to start where Scripture starts,
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and that is we have to start with God's ultimate purposes and then move
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from there to the application in time.
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If we start with man, we'll never be able to build up to the truth.
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And so when we talk about the doctrines of grace, you've probably heard them broken down into various
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categories before, and I have always insisted that what you must start with
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is the truth about God that crushes our creaturely autonomy.
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The fact is there are passages of Scripture that if we will just
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set aside our traditions and if we will just listen,
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remind us that God is God and we are not God.
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When we read of God's utter freedom,
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when even a pagan like Nebuchadnezzar,
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after his reason returns to him, after his pride has been crushed, read Daniel
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The pagan king comes to recognize there is only one true God and he
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does whatever he pleases in heaven and earth and no one can ward off his hand or
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say to him, why have you done what you've done?
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And yet isn't that what mankind does every single day?
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Why have you done what you've done?
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Because what does the Bible say about us?
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How do we describe in Scripture?
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We are a vapor that just disappears.
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A flower that blooms in the morning is dead by night.
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In comparison to God's eternal existence, our entire lifetime is a blink of
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And so how can we, even if we are the most intelligent people in the world,
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how could we take in sufficient information to even begin
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to understand what God is doing, let alone to judge Him?
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And yet how many are willing to judge Him immediately based upon a single
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We know from Scripture, you think of someone like Joseph.
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Man, if anybody had the reason to question God's goodness,
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Think of all the things that happened to him that he could just go, this is not fair, God is not being loving,
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my brothers have gotten away from this, Potiphar's wife got away with this, I'm rotting
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God obviously is not good.
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I'm sure he was tempted to do that.
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But he recognized, by the grace of God, he recognized by the grace of God
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that in that final analysis, when he finally faced his
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brothers, and they were afraid now, dad's gone, we're toast,
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we're going to be killed, Joseph's finally going to take his revenge on us.
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And Joseph weeps, and he says to them, am I God?
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The answer obviously is no.
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And he showed such wisdom when he said, he didn't excuse their sin.
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They had sold him into slavery and deceived their father that he was dead.
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They were hard -hearted men.
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He didn't excuse any of that.
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But he said, you intended this for evil, but God intended this for good and to save many people alive
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The evil that they committed, God intended to take place.
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Now, their intentions were bad, God's intentions were good, their intentions were
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bringing about death, his intentions were bringing about life, which is what he did.
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But in the moment, simply looking at the act, it would be easy to
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But none of us live long enough, and none of us have access to sufficient information to
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ever stand in judgment of God.
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And that's why God can say, I do whatever I please.
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In heaven and the earth, I accomplish all my holy will.
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And yet there are many who will say, no, no he does not.
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I have debated many a person who has just directly stated, no, God does not accomplish all
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There's much he wants to do that he cannot do because he has limited himself.
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And yet, we then have to ask the question, how can there be prophecy of
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How is it that when the Lord Jesus rose from the dead, he could walk with his disciples, and he could open their
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minds, understand the scriptures, and show them that from Moses onward, they all prophesied of him?
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If there is no divine decree of God, if man is autonomous and can do this thing or that
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thing, and either God doesn't know, open theism, or God learned when he
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created, how could there be prophecy?
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Cyrus is prophesied by name in the prophet Isaiah, right?
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Long before he ever comes along, which is why a lot of naturalistic scholars say, that couldn't have been written by Isaiah because you
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can't know the future, which is the whole idea of what prophecy is.
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But what if Cyrus had this autonomous will?
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And the morning when he was supposed to release the Jews to go back to Israel, he gets out of the royal bed, and he
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steps on a toy, and it cuts his foot, and he's angry, and he picks up the toy and
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realizes the toy was made by one of those Jewish toy makers.
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And so now he's angry, and instead of freeing the Jews, he has all the Jews killed.
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Well, all those prophecies, Isaiah now becomes a false prophet, right?
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So could that have happened?
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No, it could not have happened.
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God has a sovereign decree that he is accomplishing.
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It does not make us, or Cyrus, puppets, as people like to say.
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If there's a sovereign decree, then nothing matters.
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I say if there isn't a sovereign decree, nothing matters.
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Because you see, if God is not accomplishing, if he is not the God of Ephesians 1, working all things after the counsel of his will,
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then there is a tremendous amount of meaningless evil that takes place in this world.
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And God either knew when he created that it was going to happen, but had no reason for it, or didn't know when
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he created it was going to happen, and therefore is liable for it for simply being ignorant and creating such a mess.
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And for some reason, people think that's better than the fact that God decreed all this and has a purpose in all of
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this, and we have to trust him that someday that purpose will be demonstrated to his honor and his glory.
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Now, I love to allow the scriptures to present these
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And so I'd like you to turn the scriptures to the text that I
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opened up, I think about 18 years ago, down in Florida,
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I don't know whether you would have been there.
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Do you remember that sermon?
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You do remember me preaching there?
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Well, that's actually better than most people would do, to be honest with you.
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I happen to remember that sermon, because I remember that I had a limited amount of time,
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and so I had to be very focused and very disciplined to get everything in, in the amount of time that I
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But I just want to run through with you one of my favorite texts on this subject and tie a bunch of these things
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together, so that we can sort of come to a conclusion and say, this is what sets the doctrines of
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grace apart from everything that isn't the doctrines of grace, and this is why you shouldn't be afraid of these things, and this is why you
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shouldn't strawman these things and just accept what traditions say or
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people who try to fearmonger things.
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Gospel of John, at least it's in the red letters.
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There are some people I've met that said, hey, if it's not in red letters, don't show it to me.
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They are hyper red letterists.
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There were, of course, no red letters in the original manuscripts, so, and it is a very
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deficient view of scripture to think that red letters are more inspired than black ones, because the Lord inspired all of them.
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But what I love about John chapter 6 is the story as it develops.
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It's the feeding of the 5 ,000, and there's all these excited men and women and children, and
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they've been fed miraculously, and then Jesus sends them away.
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Jesus sends them away, and I'm sure the disciples, who were probably feeling pretty good about
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themselves as they're distributing the miraculous bread and things like that, you know, yes, I'm one of Jesus' disciples.
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Thank you very much, yes.
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Just remember my name, you know, and they're probably, people are looking up at them, and this is, they're
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enjoying themselves, and then Jesus goes and ruins all of it and sends everybody home,
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and then he goes up in the mountain to pray, and they get in a boat, and
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they go off to Capernaum.
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Now, I've gotten to go to Israel once.
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I'm so glad I got to go that one time.
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And the thing that I took away, I took a lot of things away, but the thing that just struck
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me about Galilee was that if you stand
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anywhere on the shore of the Lake of Gennesaret, the Sea of Galilee,
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you can see the other shore anywhere.
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I always thought, well, it's a sea, so it's huge.
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You know, you can't, you know, it goes over the horizon.
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I've stood at Capernaum where the disciples would have landed in John 6,
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and you can see the far shore, and that's lengthwise.
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That's the longest part of the lake.
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You can see the far shore.
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It's a long ways off, but you can still see it.
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I was just stunned at how small Israel is.
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You can drive the vast majority of it in just a very short period of time, certainly in less
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You can drive from top to bottom quite easily.
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So Jesus sends the disciples off, and you have the walking on the water
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incident and all the rest of that stuff takes place, and they get to Capernaum.
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And then you have the disciples who are still left on the other side of the lake, which is over that direction if you're standing there in Capernaum.
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And when they realize Jesus is gone, they get in boats, and they come over to Capernaum, and they're the ones that come up
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Now when you find folks that are willing to row across the lake seeking Jesus, we pretty much think these folks are
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ready for an office in the church.
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You know, we'll make them Sunday school teachers or something almost immediately.
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Jesus begins to speak to them.
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Notice in verse 26 that they are seeking a sign.
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They saw what happened with the feeding of the 5 ,000, now they're seeking a sign.
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And Jesus begins to focus them in upon who he is.
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And so he talks about the manna in the wilderness, and he starts introducing himself as the bread of God
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which came down out of heaven to give life to the world.
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And they say to him, Lord, always give to us this bread, verse 34.
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And Jesus said to them, I am the bread of life.
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The one coming to me will never hunger, and the one believing in me will never thirst.
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Now just in passing, especially if you're dealing with Roman Catholics, please realize the first time that anything related
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to hungering, thirsting, eating, drinking is all in regards
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to believing, to faith, not to
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aristotelian categories of transubstantiation.
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But then notice what Jesus says in verse 36.
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But I said to you that you have seen me, and you are not believing.
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You've seen me, but you don't believe because you don't know who I am.
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You don't believe me for who I am.
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He identifies even the men who rode across a lake to find him as unbelievers.
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And to them, in explaining their unbelief, he says,
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all that the Father gives me will come to me, and the one coming
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to me I will never cast out.
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Now think about those words.
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All that the Father gives me will come to me.
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Who is bringing about the actions in this sentence?
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Well, people are coming, so people are doing something, but their coming is the result
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Having been given by the Father to the Son.
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So what must be true about God in a situation like this?
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the Father, must have sovereignty that results in
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real actions amongst men.
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All that the Father gives me will come to me.
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Not come to someone else, come to me.
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Jesus is exclusively the center of these things.
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So you have the Father and the Son, and you have a certain people who are given to
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the Son by the Father, and as a result of being given, they come to Christ.
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The issue, when you start putting all the other stuff aside,
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If you've come to Christ, why did you come and someone
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If you and your neighbor went to the same school, you have similar jobs, you have
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similar IQs, you've grown up in the same place, you both hear the
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gospel, you come to Christ and the other person does not, is it
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because you are better than the other person?
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Are you more spiritually sensitive?
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More spiritually intelligent?
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Did you have a better preacher?
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Why is it that you came and they did not?
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And if you keep it on a human plane and you only look for the answers within the human
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categories, you're going to have to say there was something about you that gave you a
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benefit the other person didn't have.
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But that's not how Jesus answers these questions.
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In talking about these men's unbelief, He says, all that the Father gives me will come to me.
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They're not coming to Him.
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They're going to walk away by the end of the chapter.
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They're going to turn and walk away.
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By the end of this chapter, Jesus starts with 5 ,000 excited people
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and by the end of the chapter, He has 12 confused disciples and one of them is a devil.
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From a human perspective, you might go, I'm not sure that Jesus was overly successful here.
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He wouldn't pass most of our church growth classes today, that's for sure.
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All that the Father gives me will come to me.
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And the one coming to me, I will never cast out.
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Now, we like the last part of that verse.
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We like the idea that if I come to Jesus, I will never be cast out.
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Most of us go, I like that theology.
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Even though there's some theologies that even say then, well, Christ never cast you out, but you can jump out of His hand and
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lose your salvation or something like that.
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We like that one, but that's the second half of the sentence.
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Why is it the one coming to me will never be cast out?
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Because the Father has given them to the Son.
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This is a divine transaction.
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This is between two divine individuals.
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The Father is giving a particular people to the Son and as a result of being given, they come.
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And when they come, they will never be cast out.
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They will never be cast out.
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Because Jesus says, I have come down out of heaven not in order to do my will,
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but the will of the one who sent me.
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So I will never cast them out, which means He has the authority to do so if He chose to do so.
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But I will never do it because I came down out of heaven to do His will.
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That's what verse 39 says.
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And this is the will of the one who sent me in order that of all which He has given to me,
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Singular, it's looking at the whole group.
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I lose none of it, but I will raise it up in the last day.
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Now follow the use of raise up in the last day.
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That is one of the ways Jesus refers to giving eternal life, to bringing someone into the
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presence of God, to bringing them into heaven, to completing the work of salvation, etc., etc.
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But here we are told that the will of the Father, the will of the one who sent Him,
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here is another indication of the distinction between Father and Son obviously,
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is that Jesus be a perfect Savior.
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This is the Father's will.
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That of all that He's given me, I lose none of it.
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If you lose none of it, then what are you claiming to have the ability to be?
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Your salvation rate is 100%.
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That means you're a perfect Savior.
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You lose nobody, not a one.
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How many Christians, I wonder, really believe that Jesus is able to
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save a specific people given to Him by the Father 100
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Because you see, if salvation
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is this synergistic cooperation between the autonomous will of man
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and God trying to save, does God get 100 there?
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Is God trying to save every person equally?
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We want to say, well, yes, of course.
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But just look at the Bible.
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Was God trying to save Pharaoh's army the same way He was trying to save Israel?
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Did God send prophets to the Amorite high priests before sending Israel in to wipe them out, man,
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Well, but that's not fair.
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And as soon as you say that, you demonstrate that you don't understand
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not only the wages of sin for all people, but you
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also don't understand the categories of justice, mercy, and grace.
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Fair is a category of justice.
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That's a different category.
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Grace, if it is to be grace, must be free.
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If it can be demanded, if it has to be given equally to every single person, it's no longer grace.
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And so what man really chafes at is the
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universal righteousness of God in judging sin.
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That's what we don't like.
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And if you give somebody a chance, if you save that guy, if you take out his heart of stone
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and give him a heart of flesh, then you've got to do that to everybody.
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That's the only way to be fair, you see.
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But Jesus says that the will of the Father for him is that he save a specific
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people and lose none of them but raise them up on the last day.
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And some will say, well, yes, but you need to understand, the people that the Father gives to the Son are the
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people that the Father foresaw would believe in him.
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See, that's how it works.
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That's how we get rid of all this troubling stuff.
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But remember what we saw in verse 37?
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All that the Father gives me will come to me, not the Father will give to me all that he
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There's a vast difference between those two.
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There's a vast difference.
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Our coming is the result of the Father's giving.
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That's grammatically necessary in the language, by the way.
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It's not just my interpretation.
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That's what the language says.
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Synergism, this idea that we have to cooperate together and make this work, synergism
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It's not the only place where this happened.
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I'm going to come back to John chapter 6, but if you go over to John 8, it's really interesting how people read this.
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Why is it you don't understand what I'm saying to you?
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Because you are not able to hear my word.
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You are not able to hear my word.
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And then down in verse 47, the one who is of God hears the words of God.
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Because of this, you are not able to hear because you are not of God.
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How would most people actually rephrase those?
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When people hear those words from Jesus, how do they retranslate them within their own traditions?
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Well, why don't you understand the things I'm saying to you?
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Because you don't choose to do so.
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Your will is not involved.
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It says, because you're not able to hear my word.
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Who is able to hear his word?
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Well, those who are of God, those who belong to God, that is that God has chosen,
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they hear the words of God.
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For this reason, you're not hearing because you're not of God.
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Why don't you hear the words of God?
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Because you don't choose to.
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That's not what Jesus said.
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You hear the words of God because you are of God, and that's something that God did.
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And so, Jesus in verse 39 of chapter 6, perfect Savior,
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for this is the will of my Father, in order that everyone looking upon the Son and believing in him might have eternal
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life, and I will raise him up in the last day.
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Now, what has happened, I know Norman Geisler did this, and people do this all the time.
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Instead of following the flow through, people jump down to verse 40 and try to read it backwards into the
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The will of the Father for the Son is that he saves all those that he's given to him.
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That will is then also played out in the fact that for everyone looking upon the Son
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and believing in him, well, who has the ability to do that?
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Well, Jesus is about to explain.
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Everyone looking to the Son and believing in him will have eternal life, and I will raise him up in the last day.
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Where did he also talk about raising him up in the last day?
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Back in verse 37, the one coming to be cast out, and then
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doing the will, the one who sent me, raising him up in the last day, verse 39.
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And so, here's a description.
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Those that are given by the Father to the Son, what do they do?
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They are looking upon the Son and believing in him.
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Those are both present tense participles.
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Have you ever wondered, because sadly, the longer you are in the
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church, the longer the list of people whose faces and
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names you can remember who are no longer amongst us.
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Not because they've passed on the glory, but because they've gone out into the world.
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I'm thinking of one man in the church I was in for decades,
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had a leadership position, and then just one day,
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Why does anyone persevere in the faith?
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Why is it that I keep looking to the Son and believing in him?
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Because the Father, in his mercy and grace, gave me to the Son, and the Son
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will raise me to eternal life.
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And so by the Spirit, my faith is maintained, is sustained.
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It's not because I'm better than anyone else.
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It's not because I'm better than anyone else.
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I persevere in the faith as a result of the work of the grace of God alone.
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Well, the Jews don't like this message, verse 40.
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And so Jesus says in verse 43, Jesus answers that, do not grumble amongst yourselves.
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No one is able to come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him,
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and I will raise him up on the last day.
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No one has the ability to come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I
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will raise him up on the last day.
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Now, of course, what's the immediate jump out mechanism here?
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You jump over to John chapter 12, which is a completely different context.
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John 6 is Jesus talking to people, explaining unbelief and what salvation is.
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John 12 is the end of Jesus' ministry.
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And there, John is talking about what's going to happen when Jesus is crucified.
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They're not even close to the same context.
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But people will jump over to John 12, 32.
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If I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto myself.
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All men are drawn, so that's how you explain John 6, 44.
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There's a real problem there.
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In John chapter 12, Jesus has been approached by Greeks, Gentiles,
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and Jesus does not meet with them.
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He doesn't meet with them.
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He doesn't answer their questions.
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He doesn't have a confab with them.
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The time is not yet for that Gentile ministry to take place.
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If I be lifted up, I will draw all men, he's talking about Jews and Gentiles.
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All kinds of men to myself.
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And the lifting up is lifting up on the cross.
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And if you actually think that the cross is attractive to men, you haven't read what the New Testament says.
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It's repulsive to the natural man.
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So Jesus says, no one is able to come to me
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unless one thing happens.
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The Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day.
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What you need to understand is that man's systems of religion have to break that
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sentence up into this form.
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Unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise up
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anyone who freely believes in me at the last day.
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You have to break up the hymns.
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The hymn that's drawn by the Father, the hymn that's raised up by Jesus, you have to make those two different groups.
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Because if you don't, then you have God's electing grace determining who's
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drawn and who's raised up on the last day.
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That's divine election unto salvation, not just simply election of nations and all the things that people try to
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He wasn't talking to nations in John 6.
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He was talking to Jewish men who had rowed across a lake to hear
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And when they walk away, he does not stop them.
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Everyone who is drawn by the Father is raised up by the Son unto eternal life.
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It has been written in the prophets, and they shall all be taught of God.
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Everyone hearing from the Father and learning is coming to me.
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There is a description of what it means to be drawn.
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You're hearing from the Father and you're learning.
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Why is it that you hear the message?
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Why is it the message of the empty tomb in your life results in a change in your
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Because the Spirit of God has made these things to come alive in your heart.
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Jesus goes on from here, and you know that he focuses upon himself.
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You have to eat his flesh and drink his blood.
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It's had nothing to do with Eucharistic sacrifices or anything else.
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It has to do with the centrality of Jesus and the intimate relationship with him.
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And what's interesting is at the end of the chapter when he says, the Spirit gives life, the flesh
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profits nothing, the words I have spoken to you, they are spirit and they are life.
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There are certain of you that do not believe.
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And he knew who that was, and he was referring especially to Judas at that point.
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And so, verse 65, and he was saying, this is
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a form of the verb where it's repetitive action.
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He kept saying over and over again, for this reason I said to you that no one is able to come to me
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unless it has been granted to him by the Father.
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Jesus repeated to them the necessity of the sovereign work
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of God in being able to come to him who is the bread of life.
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And notice, because of this, verse 66, so his
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repeating the sovereignty of God in his message, because of this,
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many of his disciples went back from following him and were no longer walking with him.
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Do you think Jesus just didn't, he didn't go to seminary and
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so he didn't get the classes where you find out what you're supposed to say and what you're not supposed to say and who you're not
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Do you think that's really what's going on here?
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The greatest preacher in the world knew that these excited followers
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They were following for the wrong reason.
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And so he gets real with them and preaches the truth to them and they walk
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In fact, Jesus even has to say to the twelve, do you also wish to go away?
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And Simon Peter answered, Lord, to whom shall we go?
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You have the words of eternal life.
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You have the words of eternal life.
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One of Jesus' apostles gave us
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an overarching explanation of why it is any of us are in the faith.
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I'm going to have to be very brief, but I want to just quickly walk through this with you.
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Ephesians chapter 1, verse 3, Blessed be the God and
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Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the one who blessed us
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with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ.
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God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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It's God the Father who blessed us.
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Now some people want to try to create all sorts of distinctions.
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Somebody came up to me just yesterday and said, have you ever heard somebody say that the us
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here is the Jews and then down verse 14 becomes the Gentiles.
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That's all this is talking about.
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Except he's writing to the church at Ephesus.
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The church at Ephesus was not a Jewish church.
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And he's actually going to bring them all together by verse 14.
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It's not individualistic.
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It's us, those who are in Christ are all included in this.
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But the blessing is upon us and it's always in Christ.
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In fact, it'd be interesting if you wanted to mark the number of places in Ephesians 1 where it's in Christ, in him or in the
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It's 10 times in 13 verses.
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What God has done in the expression of his eternal grace is in Christ.
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It is an exclusive message.
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That's what's offensive to many, many people.
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The one who blessed us with every spiritual blessing and heavenly places in Christ just as he did what?
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There's a lot of people who would like you to think that that's what this is saying.
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They promote the idea of class election.
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That the chosen one is Christ and that when you believe you get joined to Christ
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and therefore that's how you have salvation.
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But the election is not of a specific people but only of Christ himself.
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Here's the problem with that.
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The direct object of the choosing is us.
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The range and realm of the choosing is in Christ
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because that saving grace is only in him because who are we joined to?
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We are joined to him so that his death becomes our death, his resurrection becomes our resurrection.
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It is intimate and personal.
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In fact I would point out to you if you have the idea that the elect is just some open group and it's
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all up to us that impersonalizes the entirety of what God did in Christ
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We all know the hymn where it talks about when Christ is dying
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my name was on his mind my name was engraven upon
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That's a view of salvation that's extremely personal.
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But that would require that the elect be a specific people and that Christ die
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specifically in their place which is what the Bible actually teaches
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but not what a lot of people actually believe.
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So he chose us in him before the
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And some people say ah but don't forget the last part of the verse.
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In order that we might be holy and blameless before him.
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Election is not unto some nebulous thing.
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It is under the specific reality that God is going to conform us to the image of Christ.
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That we are going to be made a holy people.
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There is absolute purpose in God's intention because that's how the triune God will be glorified.
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But that does not change the fact that the direct object of the verb choose is us
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And the timing of this election is before the foundation of the world when
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But if we were chosen then our existence was known to God.
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But you do realize I hope that you are the result of hundreds of
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millions of free choices by all of your ancestors.
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Your great great great grandfather might not have married your great great great grandmother and if he hadn't you wouldn't be you.
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And if that's all just a jumble of random events and God just does the best he can
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trying to sort of run around and put stuff together that's not the presentation of scripture.
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It's what a lot of people believe but it's not the presentation of scripture.
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Now we don't know where to put the phrase in love because you could put it at the end of verse 4.
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We might be holy and blameless before him in love or you could have in love he predestined us unto
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adoption through Jesus Christ unto himself according to the kind intention of his will.
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What's the direct object?
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Through Jesus Christ unto himself.
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That is a specific people who will be joined to Christ and therefore be adopted as sons and daughters of
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God in and through the work of Jesus Christ and this predestination is according to the
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kind intention of his will.
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And it's a kind intention not an evil intention.
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If you want to know why one is chosen and one is not
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according to the apostle it is because of the kind intention of his will
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to the praise of his glorious grace which he has graced us
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granted to us, gifted to us with his term grace graced us in the beloved one
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This is as close as you're going to get anywhere in scripture to the ultimate answer to the ultimate questions of
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And the why is to be answered to the satisfaction of the redeemed heart
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anyways in the phrase the kind
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It's shocking to me how many Christians are willing to trust the fallen
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perverted will of man more than the kind intention of God's will.
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Yeah, but I can see what man's going to do.
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I can't see what God's going to do but you're called to trust that his will is good.
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And all of it to the praise of his glorious grace and there's the problem because it's not to the praise of anything
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It's wonderful but we do not get any of the glory.
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It is all to the praise of his glorious grace which he graced upon us
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but only in one way in the beloved one in the son of his love
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because it's in him that is in Christ verse 7 that we have redemption through his blood
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the forgiveness of our trespasses according to the riches of his grace which he caused to
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abound unto us in all wisdom and understanding
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having made known to us the mystery of his will again according to his
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kind intention which he determined he before determined to
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accomplish in him and then he gives us the big picture
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this whole creation all of this creation.
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Is meant to be summed up.
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All of it in Christ the things in the heavens the things upon the earth they are all to be summed up
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This is not a God who got things going and then went oh man that didn't go the
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Well let's try this plan.
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There are theologies like that out there and Paul would have gone.
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What are you talking about?
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This has been God's intention from the beginning he is wrapping all things up in Christ the
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things in heaven the things in the earth they are all going to be in him and he is going to bring them all to fulfillment in
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That we have been called having been predestined according to his purpose of the one who
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works all things according to the counsel the decision of his
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will so that we who are the first
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to believe in Christ might be to his praise and to his honor.
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And then finally after all of this you get.
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Now let's bring it down to the Ephesians and their experience.
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When you heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation so now we are leaving
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And so how do those decisions that were made in eternity come to fruition in time.
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And in their experience they heard the word
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of truth the gospel of their salvation and they believed
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and they were sealed with the spirit of promise the holy spirit of promise.
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Who is the Arabon the down payment.
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And so these individuals had received the holy spirit of God.
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The holy spirit of God had made these things to come alive in their understanding in their hearts
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they have been sealed for their redemption all the praise of his glorious grace.
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So now these believers in Ephesus have heard about the grand
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sweep of what God is doing.
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And now Paul has brought it down to.
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And now here is how eternity has resulted in your salvation the founding of
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your church there in Ephesus and your participation in Christ.
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And that is going to allow the letter to get down to being so practical as to saying children obey your parents
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in the Lord for this is good husbands love your wives.
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All of that eternal stuff results in what we are to be doing here in time.
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We don't get to determine any of that stuff.
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We had nothing to do with any of that stuff.
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We can't change any of that stuff.
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But that is the foundation upon which the apostle then says to us.
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And here is what God is doing in our lives.
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And it's all to his honor and glory and praise.
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It's all about his glory and until someone has a sufficiently
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high understanding of the fact that God.
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And he is not just a big man he is not just a really powerful man he is
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When the angels surrounding the throne say kadosh, kadosh, kadosh holy, holy, holy
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we always think about pure, clean those are part of
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the meaning but part of holiness is.
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And I really think there comes a time in every believer's life.
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Through the study of the word.
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And contemplation you come to that point.
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That rebellious sinful heart.
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It's got to be crushed it's got to be crushed.
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You've got to bow in wordless adoration of this God
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and not have any substitutes and not want any substitutes or anything that's lesser than the one true
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God and to adore him for all he has done not because you can understand
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all of it because you can't but because you see that he has made
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you and he sustains you and as your creator he is worthy of your worship
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and your trust and your trust.
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When we talk about the doctrines of grace we're not talking about something where we
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get to sit around on Facebook and have arguments with the Church of Christ guys because look if you're going to
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argue with the Church of Christ guys you're going to end up in Acts 2 .38.
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For the rest of your life.
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Have you ever seen Church of Christ.
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Guys can have debates on Acts 2 .38 for three nights in a row.
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If you can't explain what the context of Acts 2 .38 is in 20 minutes get out of the ministry.
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I've just never done one of those.
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There's been people that want to do that kind of thing and I'm like no no no I've only got maybe 30 years of life left
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so I'm not wasting it that way.
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I know we have the debates and we have the discussions and we have the going back.
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I get it there's a place for it but like I said at the beginning
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there are certain things that would have made my ministry a whole lot bigger
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and not believing this would have been one of those things.
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When I use the exact same form of
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hermeneutics and interpretation that I use to defend the deity of Christ the trinity the
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resurrection historicity of the scriptures when I
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use that same form of hermeneutics on these texts they
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teach that God is the one who draws a particular people unto Christ.
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He joins those people to Christ in His death, burial and resurrection.
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He provides perfect salvation for them to His honor and His glory and those who receive His
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wrath do so in perfect justice.
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And this is a common straw man but needs to be refuted.
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He has never ever turned away a person who has turned in repentance and
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Every single person who has ever done so has found Christ to be a perfect Savior.
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But what you must understand is that every person who has ever turned in repentance and faith to
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Jesus Christ seeking salvation from Him did so because the
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Father gave Him to the Son and the Spirit brought that person alive.
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Otherwise you're in spiritual death.
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You're not able to do what is pleasing to God and you'll never turn in
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repentance and faith to Christ.
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But I can't see who that is.
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You know you might have some primitive Baptists running around who will say that what
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you're supposed to do is if I'm witnessing to brother green shirt here.
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I can't tell what color is.
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What is that supposed to be green.
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If I'm witnessing to brother greenish here we'll call you brother greenish.
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So I'm witnessing to brother greenish here I'm supposed to.
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And I'm supposed to be a fruit inspector.
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And I'm supposed to be looking for evidences of regeneration in him.
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And if I find I guess I get to choose and get determined.
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If I find enough evidences of regeneration in him then I can present the gospel to him.
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You never find the Apostles doing that they presented the gospel.
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They left it to the Holy Spirit of God to make application they called all men everywhere
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And so we get to do the exact same thing.
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And I'm going to tell you over the years when I've.
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We all know historically that the early missionary movements those early missionaries were reformed
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went to India and labored literally for years.
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Before having their first convert what gave them the ability to go on
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a trust in the sovereignty of God.
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That they were doing what God had called them to do.
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And when I go up to Salt Lake City and we would pass out tracts for 18 years
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we went to every general conference that's 36 some odd times every general conference the Mormon Church.
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And I've seen tracts ripped up.
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I remember this one guy my first time.
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My son went up there with me to pass out tracts and he had his little white shirt on his little Rush Limbaugh
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Little 14 inch clip on Rush Limbaugh tie.
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I had the same version but the full sized adult one obviously and this guy walked up to him
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and I turned around just in time to see it because I would have been right on the guy if I hadn't but and he
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took that tract and he reaches down and he pulls my son's front pocket open
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like this and he stuffs that tract down into his pocket.
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And walks off and I remember my son just looking at me going what am I
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supposed to do and I'm like well son you got your first rejection taken care of now you
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don't have to worry about it anymore just enjoy the rest of the day.
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Why do we keep going up there are we gluttons for punishment.
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I cannot tell you what the result of all that work will be but I already know in this life of not only
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I know of at least one church that was founded because of what we did up there.
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Could I have known that at the time.
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You faithfully do what God commands you to do.
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You recognize the difference between his decree which you cannot know and his prescriptive will
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And God calls me to live according to what he's revealed not to what he has not but
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he's also determined that it's important enough for me to know that he is accomplishing his decree.
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And that calls me to trust the judge of all the earth to do right to do right.
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reason to unashamedly confess reformed
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It is the inevitable result of applying the very same methods of
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interpretation to scripture that you use for any other of the central core doctrines of the Christian faith
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and the reason it is so controversial.
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The fundamental thing it does is it destroys the arrogant presumption of man's
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It says you don't get to share the glory with God.
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You don't get to control God's grace.
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The question is not what will you do with Christ.
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The question is what will Christ do with you.
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But the heart that is the recipient of the work of the spirit of God
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embraces that because that heart recognizes the truth of what's found in the prophets.
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What's that stunning description of man and his sin.
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Can you imagine a heart of stone going.
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I don't want to be a heart of stone anymore.
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I want to be replaced with a heart of flesh.
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A heart of stone wants to continue on its rebellion continue on its way.
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But what a picture of what regeneration is.
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God takes out that heart of stone and gives a heart of flesh.
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I am so thankful Lazarus was thankful God has the ability to do that by the way just in passing.
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And I am so thankful that God continues to do that today.
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He's doing it all across the world.
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He's been doing it for 2 ,000 years.
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He's going to do it for as long as He chooses to do so.
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And no matter how often that truth is attacked it will stand firm.
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And we can be thankful to God for those truths.
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Our gracious Heavenly Father indeed we do recognize Your great sovereignty and
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You are God and we are not.
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Oh Lord help us to recognize that You have made us to glorify You
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not ourselves that You have the right to call us
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and to use us as our maker.
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We live in a world Lord that by its very words and actions is constantly
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encouraging us to an attitude of rebellion and ungratefulness and
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distrust toward You Lord by Your
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remove that corruption that comes from our constant exposure.
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Expose us to Your Word instead so that we might truly have
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that peace that passes all understanding knowing that we can trust
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We thank You for this time.
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I thank You for these precious people who have come out this evening.
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I pray that You will bless them and encourage them to build this church up build up all
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For Lord we know that this land
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lies under Your judgment and it's a just judgment so we need
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the gospel call all across this land.
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We need You to heal our land and we know the only healing.
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In repentance bring that about Father that is our desire use us we pray.