HalloWhat? The History of Halloween

This is Apologetics Live. To answer your questions, your host, from Striving for Eternity Ministries, Andrew Rappaport.

Andrew Rappaport. Good evening, everyone. So, you know, at some point, we are going to have to change that intro music because I messed it all up. It's all about Dr. Silvestro and Pastor Pierce. You know, thank you guys for coming on tonight.

Show Introduction and Guest Welcome

This is going to be a really fun show for us to do. Actually, it's going to be fun for me to sit back and just ask questions because Pastor Justin has done all the research on this. But, you know, Pastor Justin has wanted to do this, I know, for a while.

And then we just kind of threw it around. He says, well, what about tonight? I said, let's do it. That's how it happened. It's been a last minute thing. But we're doing only one hour tonight. Not a Silvestro hour, which is like three hours.

We're doing an Andrew hour, which is like an hour. So we're going to just jump right into this. I'm your host, Dr. Anthony Silvestro with my co-host, Pastor Justin Pierce. So thank you for coming on tonight, Justin.

Dr. Justin Pierce. Thanks. I'm just glad that we could do it. As you can see, my walls have changed. I got put in a corner. I got the floor done. I got all the walls done. I'm working on some trim and electrical work.

And so naturally I get put in a corner. Well, hey, we were knocking this around about when to do it and whatnot. And I saw, I don't know, probably five or 10 people that are on Facebook that were kind of questioning, is anybody going to do a discussion about that?

And I said, yeah, I think it'd be a really good idea. And of course, I reached out to you guys, and this was just a really good time to do it.

Tim Draper. Yeah, no, absolutely. And before we jump into this, I want everyone to know, this Thursday is going to be another great show. We have a whole string of really good guests and whatnot. We're going to be bringing back Pastor Chuck O 'Neill this Thursday, and we got a whole litany of topics.

It's going to be just he and I talking, and we're going to be going over some last minute political stuff. We're going to be talking then about Roman Catholicism and the Pope's recent comments, how Christians should view the new Supreme Court justice, who's Catholic, right?

How do we have a proper view on this? It's really going to be a good show. We talked about it this afternoon. So we're really excited about that on Thursday coming up. So you guys will want to tune in for that, especially.

In two weeks from today, I'm going to be on with an evolutionist again. So a new evolutionist who actually sought me out. It's crazy. So he's going to come on. Tim Draper talking. And then I think next week, you're supposed to have the Canadian Atheist back on, right?

Yeah. He and I are going to have a conversation about... Well, I think everything has really been hammered out really well on it, but I think we're going to talk about... He wants to talk with me about the moral argument and have a little discussion about that.

Yeah. He does not know what he's getting into. I'm going to sit back just watching that one.

This is going to be enjoyable. This is going to be fun.

Yeah. And I'll say one other thing. Next Thursday, in God's grace, I'll be out at Pastor Andrew's house again. And you'll be on your way out there after the show, I believe, because Mike Riddle and I will be teaching with a friend, Scott Weckerle.

We'll be teaching the basic creation training course at Andrew's church on Saturday. There are still some sign up spots available for anybody who wants to come into the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania area and come in and take the course.

It's all day on Saturday. I promise you have never sat through a creation training like this before. And there's some good groups out there. There's some good people out there, but it is not like what this is.

So you'll really enjoy coming in to learn about it. If you want to know more, go to creationtraininginitiative .org, and you can learn more about this that we're offering. And then I'll be preaching at Andrew's church on Sunday on James 3, verses 1 to 12, the taming of the tongue.

So that should be a fun weekend coming up. But having said all that, Pastor Justin, we're not here to talk about all those things. We're here to talk about what's coming up this coming Saturday, which is one of the largest, I don't want to call it celebrations, but I mean, really, it's one of the largest celebrations slash parties that occurs in the country.

I believe that there's more candy sold by far for this day than there is even for Sweetest Day or for Valentine's Day or any of the other made up Hallmark holidays. That Halloween far surpasses all those in candy sales.

Yeah.

It's great, right? Well, if you've got a sweet tooth, it should be a wonderful day for you. But with all of that comes the baggage of its history. And you can't devoid it from history. I'll tell you one thing, as I told you just a little bit ago, if you guys really want a good gospel track for this, it's just a little bitty thin gospel track.

It comes from Answers in Genesis. Bodie Hodge and the guys there wrote this, and it's called A Biblical and Historical Look at Halloween. It gives a history of Halloween, and I think they're $100 for maybe $10 or something like that.

You can get them off the website, Answers in Genesis. I want to suggest that to you. Get those and definitely give those out here in the next couple of days. You can get.

Rush ordered. What do you mean by give them out? Yeah, we'll talk about that later. Let's get into.

What it is, and then we'll talk about how we deal with it. Okay, let's get into what it is. So we started out with the little screen here, Hallowot. You came up with that, and I died laughing. I tell you what, when you said that, for some reason, that was the funniest thing I could think of.

It reminded me of Herman Who, but Herman What? I don't know. I was just thinking.

About that. I thought it was hilarious. There are times things just pop into my brain really fast. So the rap report, Andrew's flagship podcast on our podcast network, he wanted to come up with a name and literally just rolled off my tongue.

I'm like, the rap report? And he's like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. And we're at Shepard's Conference several years ago. I said, let's just talk to some people. And so he's going around telling people that I'm calling it the rap report, and he's hoping that they're just going to slaughter me over this, right?

Everybody loved it. I mean, from Robert Reese, who runs Red Grace Media for Emilio Ramos, to every other person he talked to, everybody thought it was great. So Andrew, in shame, had to take the name that he hated to be his podcast name.

So every time he says rap report, he has to think of me. But yeah, hello, what? That just popped right in my brain.

It works. It worked great. Yeah, it works great. Well, we've got a gentleman on, Thomas. Let's pull him in real quick. See if he wants to say anything real quick while we get started. Thomas, how you doing, brother?

How's it going, guys? Thanks for having me. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm glad to be here, man. This is one of those things that I really don't struggle with, but I think my family does. My mother-in-law is huge on Halloween, so there's huge family gathering every year.

And so any ammunition I could take against them. I'm upset I didn't know about that track sooner, because I was actually just down at the Creation Museum last weekend. And I could have picked up a couple of cases.

Yeah, they've got them downstairs in the auditorium. Yeah. Down in the auditorium area and then downstairs underneath the arc. They have so much of that stuff. But it's really good information. And now I've compiled the information that I've compiled from a bunch of different resources.

You know, Schaefer, Francis Schaefer, a lot of church history stuff, a lot from Ken Ham, just a multitude of different resources. And so if you ask me to pin down every single resource, you know, some of it's obvious I found this stuff online, the pictures that I want to pull up here and show you guys, because I want people to think about what is going on today and what is it that we are actually being a part of as the body of Christ.

And so this has always been my argument. If we start out from the scripture.

Scripture, Holiness, and the Basis for Christian Authority

Hold on a second. I mean, let's ask the obvious question first. Isn't this just something that's a harmless thing to do? I mean, kids dress up, they roam the streets, they go house to house asking for candy.

Who cares, right? I mean, this is the average thought. And honestly, it was mine for years after I first got saved. Like, OK, it's a little I recognize now it's a little weird. You know, you dress up and you trick or treat and somebody throws you a piece of candy or two.

And so how do you address this? Well, for me, I'm going to tell you,.

I'm going to use Pastor Andrew. He said something at the last conference. You guys just had the conference. He said, and we put it into a meme. He said, you don't you don't forsake or dumb down. I can't remember the exact quote.

You don't forsake holiness because you you know, because you care about God's glory. You forsake holiness because you want people to like you. And if the scripture in the if the scripture tells us what we are to be a part of and what we're not to be a part of, that's the that's the the foundation stone.

That's the the end and beginning of our authority. And that's what tells us what to do. And indeed, we can look in the Old Testament and we can say in Deuteronomy 18, for example, I posted it there so everybody could see it.

When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn. Underline not learn. It doesn't say go ahead and do it. You shall not learn the follow to follow the abominable practices of the nations.

There shall not be any among you who burns their sons and daughters as offerings. Anyone who practices divination, tells futures and interprets omens or is a sorcerer, that's a witch or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or anyone who inquires of the dead for whoever does these things is what.

An abomination. It says a friend, doesn't it? Oh, no, no. I think it says abomination.

Okay. I just making sure that we have the right quote. Okay. It's an abomination.

So I agree with this passage, but it's kids. They're just harmlessly going door to door, knocking on doors. They're dressed as things they don't even understand, right? And churches, I mean, look, look at this picture you just put up.

Churches, obviously, you're hosting these trunker treats everywhere. So they're saying, Hey, this is harmless.

Absolutely. And they say it's harmless. They say it's not that big of a deal. In October 31st in 1517, Martin Luther, he nails 95 theses on the wall at Wittenberg Castle, and he was willing to die for his call for the church to come back into holiness, to talk to the church about being holy.

And they wanted to kill him for it. So much to the point where it started the spark of the reformation. There were multitudes more that died before him, right? There were multitudes that even died before him.

So when we water it down this way, we should not be too far away from expecting Dragoween, Ames, Iowa, by the way, to the church in Ames, Iowa, United Church of Christ. If you don't want your name exposed and put on blast for everybody, then don't do Dragoween.

This is your children dressing up as drag queens and they get rated for who's the prettiest belle of the wards. Now we say, okay, go ahead. That's disgusting. I know it is, but it's not that big of a deal, right?

I mean, it's just little kids doing it and I'm not mocking you. I'm being.

Facetious, of course, for the audience who's listening. I know you are. Okay, Pastor Justin, let me ask you this. What is the history of Halloween? Where does it come from? When did this kind of start?

Was it in this country? Was it in Europe? Where'd it come from?

To get to where it came from, let me tell you what it is, okay? Halloween in, okay, to me and you, you can say, oh, it's just, it's not that big of a deal. It's just a little bit of a fun, fun thing. Well, to the Druids, which Druids were the witches and the Wiccans.

They were the priests of demonic worship, okay? These were the priests of this demonic worship.

So they're Catholic, is what you're saying. What's that? So they're Catholics, is what you're saying. Well, okay.

You got me tongue tied because I don't know what to say. No, actually, I do. Actually, I do. What you got to say is, this history is steeped. It's steeped in the demonic occult and pagan ideology. And it's one of those things that has built up and built up more and more over the years.

I mean, you can go back to the early 400s and even sooner when you had people openly worshiping the pagan gods, the pagan idols around. You had them openly worshiping the demonic worship of idols and demons.

And to say that it was the worship of Celtic worship, we don't understand what that means today. Because today, I mean, everybody's heard that it was Druid worship. There's not anybody that has it. When you talk about Halloween, everybody says, oh yeah, it was Druidic worship.

And we know that. And even here in this picture, I just showed everybody. It talks about the pagan roots of Halloween from Ireland, from Scotland, and the Celtic roots that comes from that, that birthed out this worship.

And those ancient Celtic roots became what's known as the Festival of Samhain. Samhain, S-A-M-H-A-I-N. And Samhain is seen all throughout time in history and even today as what's known as the Worship of the Dead or the Day of the Dead.

You have, like in Mexico, for example, pull this up. In Mexico, you have the Day of the Dead Festival in Mexico. And it's to bring the families into a remembrance of their dead ancestors so they can commune and so they can fellowship.

Here's just another one talking about the Day of the Dead. You have these Day of the Dead Festivals where they're going around and they are really communing and fellowshipping. This goes all the way back to about 400 A .D. in Scotland, England, Ireland.

And you had, you call it today All Hallows and All Hallows Eve and whatnot. It was a mixture. What made it so popular is it was a mixture in Christendom, in the Roman Catholic, as you said, in the Roman Catholic traditions, where they went out and they're Christianizing everything.

And they started to bring in the pagan cultic festivals and celebrations and trying to make it Christian. So they allowed people to come in and to remember their dead. Now, what is the,.

Go ahead. And from a historical timeline, just so everybody knows, that Halloween is over 2 ,000 years old. So when you're talking about the same reign, that's over 2 ,000 years ago. And you're right.

It was actually intertwined with the Roman Catholic Church as time went on. And actually, I actually just brought this up now to give some exact dates. On May 13th, 609 A .D., so now we're talking about 1 ,400 years ago, Pope Boniface IV dedicated the Pantheon in Rome in honor of all Christian martyrs.

And the Catholic Feast of All Martyrs Day was established in the Western Church. Gregory III later expanded the festival and include all saints as well as all martyrs and moved the observance from May 13th to November 1st.

So you're right. So when you talk about, and I hope I'm not stealing your thunder here. You are to be ashamed. All Souls Day is November 1st, which means then what is October 31st?

So you have All Saints Day, All Souls Day, All Saints Day, but then you have All Hallows Eve. And I'll get to that in just a moment. Where this started from in the 400s in Scotland is these Celtic Druids, they were earth worshipers.

Really the hippies of the day married with earth worship, the sun, moon, and stars. They were married with all these different beliefs of supernaturalism inside of nature. They worshiped, and by the way, you can actually drive this all the way back to the time of the tower in Genesis, because they worshiped the devil, but instead of calling him devil, they wouldn't call him Lucifer, they would call him Marduk, they would call him Modek, Moloch, Baal, and the festival of Samhain is born out of that.

Now, here's why it's so important to know the name Samhain. Many different pronunciations of his name were given, and Sanhwain, Samhain, and all these different names, they go back to the time of Semiramis and Tammuz, Nimrod, and all of these things that were being brought out, the names are changed, but the guilty parties are still in play.

You read in the Scripture talking about Marduk. You read in the Scripture talking about Baal and Baal and all these names, and yet these Celtics, they wanted to continue their worship, but in order to become Christianized, they were allowed to bring their names, their worships into the culture of the Christian, the quote-unquote Christian Roman Catholic culture.

Let's see. So Cody Robbins put this up, the same Boniface was supposedly contacted by Bill Wilson via a Ouija board who gave him the 12 steps of AA, so there's that.

Isn't that wonderful? It's wonderful how all that matches up. So as I was saying, talking about the festival of Sanhwain, Sanhwain, let's see, I was trying to show you this. Here's the festival in Mexico, okay?

You see the bones, the bone face, and all of these festivals, the commonality is the living skull, the living bones. That's the commonality, but once you start getting outside of Mexico and whatnot, you start coming into areas such as El Salvador.

Well, they start to put a better face on who Sanhain or Sanhwain is. Sanhwain, the names, the pronunciations change from all over the place, but they start to put a better face on it, and they start to worship through burnings and through sacrifices and through all these different ways, and in this picture, you see the festival of Sanhain, the day of the dead festival in El Salvador.

They use a man that's dressed up as if he's a demon, and some of the stuff that Anton LaVey talks about in the Church of Satan, he says that he is so glad, I'm glad that Christian parents let their children worship the devil at least one night out of the year.

Now, this man is disgusting. Well, he's in hell now, but this man was disgusting and vile, but he was being truthful because so many Christians think it's no big deal. Well, let me show you something that maybe you might think is a big deal, talking about Sanhain.

Interesting. So the founder and high priest of the Church of Satan is in San Francisco, the same place that spawned the largest homosexual population in the country, that's also spawned two other sons of the devil in Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris, let alone who knows what else has come out of San Francisco.

Well, you think about it, out of that teaching, you had the popularization of Wiccans, Warlocks, Gothic groups, you had different churches, pagan churches, and even Halloween churches, Sanhain churches that popped up out of that.

Now, as we talked about, Samhain, he actually has a physical feature that is seen all throughout history, and I'll pull that one up for you. As you can see right in the middle of us, I wish it wasn't, we could throw it out.

That is a man covered in a cloak with a long sickle, and that's how he was seen. Samhain was seen as a demon with a sickle. He was seen as something of a demon, if you will, with a sickle. But here's another way he was presented.

Actually, this would be a better way to see it. Samhain was the living skeleton. He was the living skeleton, and the reason for that was if you go back to the Gothics and you go back to the Celtics, they believed that during this time of the year, because you see out right now, what's going on is autumn.

You see right now, things are starting to die, and he was the god that, yes, the Grim Reaper, thank you. Angie posted on here the Grim Reaper, and that's what I wanted to tell you guys. The Grim Reaper would come in, Samhain himself.

Look, this isn't from Christianity. This is from the pagan Celtics, where they're trying to bring in all naturalism into their pagan spiritual worship, and they're trying to get you and me and children and everyone else to think it's not that big of a deal.

So I want to make sure that everybody understands Christians, we just don't do this. But once you start to understand what this is about, it's actually pagan Celtic worship. You think about how many kids you know and how many teenagers you know and adults are running around, and they've got to have the 20 and 30-foot-long tall skeletons and all over the place.

They have the skull and crossbones. They have them all over the place as if it's not that big of a deal, and it's not that big of a deal. The question I have.

Is, when does it become a big deal? Look, I agree. I think this is a big deal, right? How did it manifest itself into this country? Because it wasn't here until the 1800s or so.

Well, it was actually in the... I guess the best way to say it is when you had the Spanish people coming over, you had a lot of their worship coming over as well. And while you had a lot of people professing Christ and Christianity, because that was the predominant religious tome of the day, you also had the undercurrent.

Of paganism. You have to face it. That would be Catholicism anyway, right? I mean, that's a lot of what Spanish brought over was Catholicism, which is pagan.

Yeah, and you have to think about it. Anything that would pretend or have some kind of rooted grounding in Catholicism was perfectly acceptable. So if you worshiped at the Deal of Mortis, the Day of the Dead, if you worshiped during that time and you also include your Christianity into this, when you bring this stuff in, there should be absolutely no issues with the Roman Catholic ideologies and what's being brought in with the undertow of pagan teaching.

So you have this festival of Samhain, you have these festivals going on, but you have to understand what's going on during those times, during those worships. As I was trying to say a minute ago, right now you see that you've got fall coming on, stuff seems to be dying.

So they say, at this time of the winter solstice, the God of light, the God of nature, the God of youth, the God of life is dying. And now the God of death, Samhain, is coming in and he's taking over and he's receiving his power.

And during this time, he has the most power and he can give that power to others. He can give that power to others, those that worship him and the right way. The only problem is, the Bible, we just looked at the Old Testament, but the New Testament tells me in 2 Corinthians 6, do not be unequally yoked and whipped together with unbelievers.

For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? What fellowship has light with darkness? What accord does Christ have with Belial? What a portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? So as a Christian, I need to recognize that in the Old Testament and in the New Testament, I've been told not only not to be unequally yoked, but not to fellowship with that which is from Satan.

Halloween, Samhain, and the Pagan Roots of the Holiday

Okay, so let's bring this a little further now, because we're about halfway through the show already. I can't believe how fast this is going. Okay, so Halloween is brought into the States, starts to become parties, right?

People are throwing parties in the 1800s, but it doesn't turn into the Halloween we see it today until the early 1900s or something, right? That's when it started to be focused more towards kids, for kids to go around and dress up.

Okay, it seems like the religious side of it's kind of been tossed aside and maybe even, okay, so a kid walking around, even if they're dressed as a skeleton, right? They don't understand the meaning of it the same way that people would have 300 years ago, or maybe the same way that Spanish would today or Mexicans would today with the Day of the Dead, because obviously they still put a lot of stock into this type of stuff.

Kids, adults, they probably still view this very innocently, and a lot of Christian parents and kids probably say, again, Pastor Justin, are you being a little too harsh? Because they're just dressing up and going to get candy.

They don't understand any of the pagan background, the evil background of any of this stuff. Well, the Druids, they actually taught.

That demons and that evil spirits would embody animals during the spring and summer, and that they would be allowed to be let go into the world as the earth died at the winter solstice. They could come out, and they could overtake unwitting humans.

They could torture. They could trick them. Or if the people would give them treats, they would not attack them, not assault them, not harm them. And so you started to see that there were things that were taught that were taught not out of, oh, this is a fun celebration, but out of fear.

It was taught out.

Of fear. And is that the trick or treat part right there, is that you're trying to trick somebody to give you something? Yeah, go ahead. I guess, yeah, I'm trying to really drill down on this, because so when a kid is knocking on the door saying trick or treat, is this what.

You're referencing? Yes. Let me pull this. Where am I at here? You're having me jump around.

Sorry. That's okay. That's all right. I'll find an hour. Yeah, we only have an hour,.

But we can do an Anthony Silvestro hour. Okay, so talking about costumes. Talking about costumes. Okay. Talking about costumes. The dead, the demons, they come back to life during this time of the winter solstice.

They've been brought out of purgatory, out of hell, out of punishment, perdition. They're allowed to come in and to terrorize the people. And they terrorize them so that they can possess them. That's what's being taught in the Druidic teachings.

So one thing that's being taught is if you put on a costume that dresses you up to look like one of these monsters, one of these demons, looks like one of these deadly things, that you can trick them.

So they come and they're beating on your door and they're pounding and whatnot. This is what the teaching is. They're beating on your door. They're going to come in. But if you're a ghoul or whatever, just like them, you can trick them or you can give them a treat.

That treat might be fruits and vegetables. The treat that they would give you back would be a good harvest the next year. It might be that you give them a dead animal or one of your precious animals that you'd give them as a sacrifice.

And during that time, you're talking in the 400s up to the 700s and 800s. What if you dress up like a what? Hot dog. A hot dog. Well, I was just going to tell you that they kill dogs and everything else.

So if you dress up like a hot dog, then I guess that would do it. But think about it. They're having you dress up in fear of these demons that are coming out under the power of Samhain, the prince of death, the king of death.

And this is what's being taught during this time when you had a lot of superstition going on. I mean, you have to think about it. With the Salem witch trials, that was people being superstitious and terrified of all of the witches and demons and warlocks and everything that they said was going around.

You had people that were legitimately terrified to the point where they would believe any of the hype. It wasn't just the Roman Catholic Church that was hyping. It was also all of those that wanted you to be terrified and give them what they wanted.

And part of that was the children. If you gave a child, one of your children, to be sacrificed, it is still taught to this day that you can give animals and children and that they would be sacrificed for a good sacrifice for your finances, long life, immortality.

And what they would do is that the Druids, and that's why I pulled this up. Let me put this up on screen. This is called the dance of the bonfire. It's bonfires, by the way. You call them bonfires. The Druids called them bonfires.

And the reason they did that is they would take the children that were offered to Molech, to Baal, to Baal, to Sam Ane, and any other name that they would give him. And we all know he's talking about Satan.

They would give them over to these Druid priests so that the people would not be scared. And then they would take them to the bonfires and dance around the bonfires. And it was said that these children or these offerings of animals or whatever else were thrown into the bonfire and that you could see them screaming, yelling, writhing, and dancing.

And as they saw the bones dancing in the bonfires, which is why they called it that, they could make prophecies. They could tell about future events and all of this stuff. Now, you go, oh, this is disgusting.

It's sick. It's crazy. And I say yes and amen. I totally agree. It is. But this is what they were teaching. Now, we go today to these bonfires and we dress up and we say it's not that big of a deal. But was it a big deal when these children were dying and when animals were being killed and everything else in the name of these pagan gods and in the name of this pagan worship?

I think it was. And if you don't agree with that, guys, I'm sure that most of you do. But if you don't agree with that, think about what the pumpkins were about. How many of you guys have carved pumpkins in this past week?

You know what it was about? Well, what it was is before I started evangelizing for Halloween, I didn't know what to do. So I saw Ray Comfort, I actually saw Andrew and some other guys out sharing the gospel during this time.

And they go out to the end of the street, hand out gospel tracts and candy, and try to witness to as many people as they could. Because this is a great time to be sharing the gospel.

Okay. So now you're transitioning a little bit. Go ahead. I want to make sure. So historical-wise, you've pretty much said you wanted to say, right, that the roots of this are evil. Well,.

The roots are evil, but I also want to talk about the pumpkins. Well, let's talk about the pumpkins.

Before we get into the evangelism side, because I've got somebody who I'm going to bring in here in a moment who I know wants to ask about that very question. Okay. So the pumpkins.

And the lighted skulls. The pumpkins were used to represent the souls of those who were damned for eternity. And the faces of the dams would be carved into these pumpkins. That's why you see the pumpkin carving faces.

They would be put in there. And it was also a way for the practicing Druids to identify those that would support them and give an offering to Samhain. Now, the Druids would light the pumpkins with candles that were made out of human fat.

And it was to protect the house from the evil spirits and the demons that would come out and go around, because the Druids truly believed that this was going on, that they were doing this, that these demons were doing it.

And that was the starting of the history of the costumes, the bonfires, or bonfires, if you want to say it, the pumpkins and the skulls. That's where that came from. And the ties into the historic teaching on trick-or-treat, it was just that.

You guys heard of Jack Trick, Jack Chick? He does the Chick tracks. Some are really funny. Yeah, some of them are funny as could be, but they're funny. Yeah, some of them are really, really cute. But he actually talks about during the vigil of Samhain, Samhain, all those things.

That it was a way for them to trick, as I said, the Druids, but also for them to get a treat from the Druids in exchange for, well, sacrificing something of value. And it was the promise that the demons wouldn't attack them during those times.

So it was all about demon worship. It was all about appeasing demons. And it was all about getting the people to allow these Druids to exercise their pagan worship. And as I posted right here, you have, this is just a picture of a coven of witches who are worshiping at a bonfire.

Of course, I don't I don't think, well, I mean, I can say that there are some places where it's stated that they may still actually sacrifice animals and people. And I don't know that for, I don't, go ahead.

I mean, that still happens today with witchcraft, with Wiccans and whatnot. So that stuff is still going on. I recognize that this is going on. So, okay. And you have to think about it.

What is the time when they see as their greatest time for worship and why? Well, for a Wiccan, for a witch, for a coven to do this during the vigil of Sam-Ain, their witching hour is 3 .33 a .m. Not midnight, but 3 .33 a .m.

And do you know why that is? Because that is exactly half of 6 .66. And that's exactly why they do it during that time. They sacrifice animals. I've heard many accounts of things like that, that have gone on.

Guys, there's only one answer to this, and that is the gospel. And I'll just stop there and let the other gentlemen talk because, I mean, I have a lot more, but I don't want to overbear it. Just real quick.