F4F | Andrew Wommack Claims God Can Be Limited by Your Imagination

Andrew Wommack’s Claim That Imagination Can Limit God

Welcome to another installment of fighting for the faith. My name is Chris Roseboro. I am your servant in Jesus Christ. This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God.

We've heard of Andrew Womack before and gotta tell you, you know, he just seems like the nicest old man. I mean Why on earth should we think that he's a false teacher and a wolf? Answer because you don't test the fruit of somebody based upon whether or not they look like an old man.

Who seems like a just a sweet fella. You have to actually test the fruit and test their doctrine. You know, Jesus makes it clear a good tree doesn't bear bad fruit. So you need to test the fruit by testing the doctrine to see if they're handling God's Word correctly or not.

Today we're going to be listening to part of a message a conference message delivered by Andrew Womack teaching that Imagination is the way in which Miracles happen. In fact, if your imagination isn't really imagining things big enough Then according to Andrew Womack, you're limiting God.

Yeah, I wish I was making that up. Today's episode will be a little bit complicated as far as the original languages. Yeah, I apologize for the complexity. But it's necessary to prove that this guy's not telling the truth and there's some things that he says that are just not true.

At all, they don't factually check out. And so we'll take a look at those as well. So buckle up grab something to write with and Let's do this. Let's Open up the desktop and we're gonna open up my web browser.

Yeah, by the way again from a secret location in Iowa, you know the American Pickers. Yeah, that that's actually what their secret one of their secret layers. Where did the things from the American Pickers television program go to.

I know where they go to that's somewhere in Iowa. And I was granted access to that by the way, but whole other story. All right. Here's here's Andrew Womack and the name of this message is called changing the image of yourself and this is from the vision conference session 6 and And is up on Andrew Womack's YouTube channel, so this is his Introduction to the message that we're going to hear.

Let's hear him out.

I'm gonna share some some personal testimony with you. But I had planned on ministering on imagination and that's what pastor Dwayne ministered on. But you know what? There's so much to say about it. I know he could have said much more and I think I've got some things to share that will complement and go along with it.

But this is a big part of my personal testimony. They advertised a book today.

So note he says he's gonna be giving a lot of his testimony and you're gonna note what I did here is I ignored the personal testimony bits in this particular conference lecture by Andrew Womack and Instead went to the biblical teaching that he wrapped in or kind of interwove Throughout his personal testimonies because according to him I mean the proof is in the pudding and his life and his testimonies are proof that this is sound doctrine and this is absolutely the truth.

That is to deny sola scriptura, even if your if your experiences You know seem to create your own theology. We don't we don't build theology and Christian doctrine based on the experience someone goes through.

Let me give you an example. And that is is that there are plenty of people who have near-death Experiences and they come back with revelation from the other side beyond the veil that Contradicts the scripture and you sit there and go well, we got to believe these people because they had an experience.

No, we judge all experiences according to the Word of God. And if your near-death experience and the revelation you come back with contradicts the scripture The scriptures are right and your experience is probably as a result of bizarre brain chemistry during the process of death.

Just saying but let's listen a little bit more about don't limit God and I wrote that 23.

Okay, I have to back this up a little bit.

Listen, I got some things to share that will compliment and go along with it. But this is a big part of my personal testimony. They advertised a book today about don't limit God and I wrote that 23 years ago.

And then in 10 years after the Lord gave me that revelation I had a book entitled don't limit God times 10 and that was 10 years after and then just last year I put out a teaching. I don't think we have a book on it, but I got a teaching entitled don't limit God 20 years later.

So you're gonna hear this as we work through portions of this lecture that Andrew Womack legitimately believes that you can limit God via your imagination. Which kind of begs the question. And the question is this how is it possible to limit God?

I know of no ability to limit God at all. In fact, this runs against one of the clear teachings of Scripture and that is is that God is omnipotent. Let me just give you a few passages to kind of bear this out in Revelation 19 6.

Revelation 19 6 then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a Excuse me of a great multitude like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder crying out Hallelujah for the Lord our God the Almighty Reigns.

Now what what does the word Almighty mean? Let's take a look at it in the Greek. Like I said today's episode is going to be very technical in some parts, but So the the word itself Almighty.

Pantocrator.

Pantocrator it's it's a little bit of a mouthful but listen to its its definitions. Almighty all-powerful omnipotent the omnipotent one so you can translate legitimately Revelation 19 6 as Hallelujah for the Lord our God the omnipotent one reigns and Omnipotent means all-powerful.

And so that's what Almighty means. Matthew 19 26 Jesus says with man. This is impossible with God. All things are possible. Okay, Job in his confession in Job 42 says I know that you can do all things Lord and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted.

Yeah, Job confesses that no purpose of God can be thwarted. Jeremiah 32 17 Jeremiah says ah Lord Yahweh it is you who have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and by your outstretched armed.

Nothing is too hard for you. Genesis 18 14 is anything too hard for Yahweh at the Amor and this is the this is the angel of the Lord speaking At the appointed time. I will return to you about this time next year and Sarah shall have.

Have a son is anything too hard for Yahweh. I don't think so. Revelation 1 8 the Alpha I am the Alpha and the Omega says the Lord God. Who is and who was and who is to come? The Almighty and there's that word again Almighty the omnipotent one.

Jeremiah 32 27 says behold. I am a Yahweh the God of all flesh is anything too hard for me. Daniel 435 all the inhabitants of the earth. This is the confession of Nebuchadnezzar. Are accounted as nothing and he does according to his will among the host of heaven among the inhabitants of the earth and none Can stay God's hand?

Or say to him what have you done? Daniel 435 legitimately says that none can stay God's hand. So, I don't know where Andrew Womack is getting this theology, but it's not Scripture and I would note that the God he is.

Describing the God who can be limited is. Is the God of open theism? Is not the all-powerful omnipotent all-knowing God. It's a limited God who who apparently is sitting on the sidelines with his hands tied and you've got to untie them because he's so impotent it rather than the omnipotent God you have the impotent God and so let's fast-forward now a little bit and let's listen into a portion where he's going to lay out this doctrine for us and talk about how.

How he was guilty of limiting God so where we are in his personal testimony story in this he's talking about the the the imagination needed, you know for a Facility for his ministry and that he was thinking too small and as a result of it.

He's gonna claim that he was guilty of limiting God. Let's listen in.

It's just like a light bulb went off on the inside of me that what's wrong with me? How come I can't see myself really touching people. And then there was there was a number of things that happened. We were looking for a new place because we were in a little building.

There was fourteen thousand six hundred square feet. We had outgrown it and we needed a new facility and while I was out traveling Jamie went and looked at a building and it Was 30 ,000 square feet. And when I got home She wanted to pick me up at the airport and drive me by there and saying boy this will last us the rest of our Lives.

And I knew that that was gonna be way way way too small and Jamie and I share everything. But you know It's like if you reach over to pet a dog and if every time you do that the thing bites you you quit petting that dog.

After a while I quit speaking my vision to people even to Jamie because it just so he had a vision of this larger.

Facility and he quit. He he. He was tired of people kind of running him down for speaking the vision. And so he stopped talking about it all together.

Hmm we continue far removed from where we were that every time you'd speak it you people had rolled their eyes. They didn't always say something, but they would communicate that. You know, you're dreaming.

It's never gonna happen. And I just got to where I wouldn't speak my vision not even to Jamie and that really shocked me because I knew that someday We were gonna have a huge ministry and things, but I hadn't allowed myself to go there.

I wasn't speaking my vision and things like this and so he wasn't speaking his vision. Notice.

Andrew Womack is one of these word of faith heretic. Oh anyway on that night.

It was about midnight and it just finally dawned on me that God said you are limiting me by your small thinking. He says I've got big plans for you. And he says I can't do it because you're thinking so small.

How does he reconcile this theology with all the clear biblical text that explain that that God is Omnipotent that he is all-powerful that the Lord God Almighty that he reigns. How how how is he? How is he able to?

Make such a claim. It's it's absolutely mind-boggling when you consider that God, you know it the scripture reveals that none can say God's hand not a single person. But Andrew Womack believes that he was guilty and God told him that he was limiting God.

Yet God is Almighty the Omnipotent One. How does one? Do that, how does one limit God? This already we're here's the issue. We're dealing with a different God now at this point. We're not dealing with the God of Scripture.

I Don't know what deity he's talking to and I'm gonna have to put deity in air quotes or who's talking to him. But it isn't the Almighty of Scripture. It isn't the Omnipotent One of Scripture. This is the the limited God of open theism.

Hmm we continue. And so I repented and did you know one of the first things I did you pastor Dwayne was talking about Imagination and meditating, you know, let me just real quickly say this.

I'm not gonna turn over there and read it but in so so the importance of imagination and meditating. So this becomes a part of his doctrine here in Psalms chapter 1 verse 2.

It says, you know that you have to not be like the ungodly and sit in the seat of the scornful. But you meditate in the book of the law day and night and that all right.

Let's let's take a look at that real quick here. So we are going to go to I need an Old Testament text. We're going to go to Psalm chapter 1. Okay. Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked Nor stands the way of sinners nor sits in the seat of scoffers.

His delight is in the Torah of Yahweh and on his Torah. He meditates day and night so our Hebrew word here is Hi, ah, okay so and so he's meditating and Let's I did actually I put a word study together on this over here so and here it's Haga and this is this is its lexical form Haga and Here's what the word means.

I'm gonna know it. It's kind of a multitudinous Number of meanings to growl to utter to speak to muse. You know of inarticulate sounds a growl of a lion. To meditate to muse to imagine to devise. So imagine is one of the possible definitions of the word Haga.

But.

Always and again Context comes into play. So I would note then when we take a look back at Psalm 1 Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked nor stands the way of sinners nor sits in the seat of scoffers, but his delight is in the law of Yahweh and on his law he meditates day and night.

Meditate is an actual proper definition of Haga here and That being the case. I would note that It doesn't make sense that on his law. He imagines day and night that definition You know is does not make any sense for her God.

So Already we've got a big problem here and that is is that you're gonna note as we're working through this lecture is Andrew Womack is going to make references to the original languages But he clearly hasn't studied them.

So, you know my my thing that I would say to Andrew Womack at this point is At a Loma Vena Vreet You do not understand Hebrew and he's gonna make it clear where he gets his information from he's gonna claim He gets it from Strong's concordance, which is not the right place to go.

By the way when it comes to.

To.

To doing deep theological study if you're a teacher in Christ Church. You should know the biblical languages which leads me to a thing. Hang on a second here I'm gonna I'm gonna come over here and I'm gonna add a tab and I'm gonna do a quick search.

Search for a resource. There was a question that came up in the comments of a recent video. We did where I was referencing the original languages and people asked is there a book for those of us who who are not?

Who haven't studied Greek so that we can know how to do proper word studies and not fall into these errors. Which I thought was a great. Great question and so there's a book by Bill mounts. Bill mounts I think it's called Greek for the rest of us.

There we go Greek for the rest of us and. And so this is just a fantastic book. Greek for the rest of us. I don't know where this website is. But we'll put a link down below to an Amazon link if you you're looking for a good lay level.

Study of the book of Greek not not the book of Greek but a study of Greek so that you learn how to study it correctly without falling into errors like we're seeing Andrew Womack do and. The same principles then that mounts lays out in this book also then would apply to Hebrew.

The idea is how to use interlinears how to do a word study and things like this. Greek for the rest of us by Bill mounts. We'll put a link to the book down below in the description. All right, let's come back then to Andrew Womack here, so he's referencing a word, but I'm gonna note.

He's not making too much too many claims regarding the word haga here in the Hebrew as it as to meditate. But he's going to start to shift. You know a little bit on on the definition a little bit.

Here we go word for meditate right there in Psalms 1. 2 is the exact same word that is used in Psalms chapter 2 verse 1. That says why did the heathen? Rage. And why do the heathen rage in the people imagine of anything?

It's the same word that's translated. Imagine, right?

Cuz haga can mean meditate or imagine that's that's within a semantic domain that so. That being the case coming back here. You'll note that you know, Psalm 1 2 on his law. He meditates day and night.

But then there's other options as far as to how to translate it and imagination is another one of its possible.

Possible.

Translations. But the context will decide that being the case. So he's making a point here that the same word is used in Psalm 1 in Psalm 2 but translated differently and easy referencing the King James and the reason for it simple is because haga has a multitude of meanings and that multitude of meetings the finding the correct meeting is going to require you to know the Context so meditates utters uttering moan ponder mourn mutter sound plot tell talk.

These are all the way it's translated in the ESV. Imagination is one of its is one of its potential meanings and we've already noted that here Using Brown driver and Briggs over here on the left. So he's correct.

It's the same word. But again, it has a multitude of meetings and context is going to determine which is the correct one. But he because he clearly hasn't studied the original languages thinks. Aha. I've discovered something.

No, really you haven't it's like like what I pointed out recently regarding the word up if you go into Miriam's Webster's dictionary online up can mean in an upward direction or it can mean if you turn up the volume to increase in Intensity or if you throw up it can mean to you know to evacuate your stomach of your lunch.

And so, you know up the the meaning of up depends on the context same with a guy. It depends on what the context is. So pointing out that yes It's correct that the same word is used is not an aha moment.

If you've studied the original languages and you know how how words work in context, you can't meditate without imagining. No, so let me back this up so you can see what he's doing here. It's brightly pointing out the same word is used in two different psalms and back-to-back.

But then makes an incorrect conclusion based upon that. Here we go.

Heathen rage and why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? It's the same word that's translated. Imagine. You can't meditate without imagining.

That's not correct, sir. That's not what haga means. And that. And you're taking two different definitions and then smooshing them together and. You know kind of in a Hegelian dialectical kind of way of taking thesis and antithesis and creating a new Synthesis you this is you can't do that.

Okay, you don't get to pour every definition of a word Into its meaning when it shows up context is going to determine which meaning is the correct one. You have to see things and.

So one of the first things I did was I had to start speaking. It also says in Joshua 1 8 this book of the law shall not depart out of that mouth, but thou shalt meditate there in day and night. Meditation has to be you speak it you see it, but you also have to speak it.

So anyway, then the day no just referencing Joshua 1 8 doesn't doesn't solve that problem. Same word haga shows up there as well and it's meditate. They're not imagination so he's he's twisting things up by not.

Recognizing that words have different meanings based upon context. After the Lord showed me that I was limiting him I just got bold again. How do you limit God? That is my question. How does one go about limiting the omnipotent and the Almighty God?

The scripture says none can stay hit God's hand. So how does one stay God's hand through their imagination? This is again. We're dealing with a different God.

That's the problem here and I stood up in front of I was at a minister's conference that we were holding in Buena Vista, Colorado and I stood up and I repented in front of those ministers and said man I'm limiting God.

And I said here's where our ministry is going and I started Confessing that we were gonna reach people all over the world. I started speaking my vision and I yeah, so he repented because.

Because imagination. Imagination, okay.

Hmm.

Okay, next portion. He's you'll note I have to skip around a little bit because he's gonna in this portion now weaves into more personal testimonies and more stories but we continue and. And so he's talking more now about the biblical basis of limiting God.

Let's see what he says and I had to start thinking differently and I think that this is where so many people miss it. You know The scripture says in Isaiah chapter 26 verse 3 the Lord will keep him in perfect.

Peace.

Who's all right. Let's get the text up by the way, Isaiah 26 verse 3 and This one's going to take a little bit of work. Okay, Isaiah 26 verse 3 and for the sake of argument I went ahead and put the King James version here that will keep him in perfect Peace whose mind is stayed on thee because he trusteth in thee.

All right, so that's the King James version which he's referencing here and let's see what he does with this.

Mind is stayed upon him because he trust in him. Did you know the word for mine? There is the Hebrew word yet sir, y-e-t-s-e-r. And Dwayne talked about this yesterday. Yeah, that's true.

Yes, sir, and. Let's let's let's pull that up and we'll make sure we got this. Whose mind. So here we got yet sir. Okay, that's for sure. That's what the word is. He's correct. It is the word yet said.

Okay, we continue. You know that Genesis chapter 6 verse 5 that every Imagination of their heart was evil continually and Genesis chapter 11 verse 6 where it says now nothing that they have imagined will be restrained.

That's the exact same word.

Okay, true. He's absolutely correct. Okay. So here we have another word that has Different meanings but what he's going to say next regarding the meaning of this word is factually wrong and One has to wonder how he made such a blunder.

But let's hear the blunder. That word for mine is imagination. And if you look it up in the Strong's concordance the only definition of that word. It doesn't have multiple definitions. The only definition of that word yet, sir.

That is translated mind and imagination six different times in the Old Testament. The only definition of that is conception. And that is.

Not true. That is factually incorrect. So he said if you look it up in the Strong's, well, here we go. Here's Strong's. Okay, and this is the Strong's exhaustive Concordance so if you want to look this up yourself it yet sir is three hundred three thousand three hundred and thirty six using the Strong's numbering system and You're going to note here according to the Strong's concordance yet sir means a form a framing purpose form framing or purpose It comes from the Hebrew verb yet, sir Which means to form or to fashion that's the verbal form of it.

So you'll note that he's wrong That that it's only meaning is to conceive that is factually incorrect. So here we are back to yet sir, and and according, you know to the you know, according to these concordances You can translate it form framing or purpose form framed handiwork intent intentions mind you get the idea.

So what is the meaning of yet sir? Okay, so we want to go to hang on a second here I want to go to Isaiah 26 and we're just we'll do a Little word search shall we or hang on a second here. I think I did this ahead of time.

There we go. Here we go. Yes. Yes, sir. Okay. So when you do just a simple word search, you know and do a word study in Lagos. And that's what we're looking at here. Okay form framing or purpose Brown driver and Briggs makes that same puts puts those as your primary definitions, but you'll note then here's the different Here's the different translations intention plan purposes frame mind form creation What they are inclined to do.

Okay, and so I would note, you know If we click on Brown driver and Briggs, you know the yet sir, here's your here's your word form framing or purpose Which is the Strong's is in agreement form framing or purpose but Andrew Womack has said something that is egregiously factually Incorrect and I mean it this this is the blunder of somebody who does not know Hebrew again Atah lo atah loma vena vreet.

You do not know Hebrew sir. You do not but let me back this up. Listen again to what he says the only definition of that word.

Yet-sir that is translated mind and imagination six different times in the Old Testament. The only definition of that is conception.

False.

This is just factually false absolutely false and Concord the Strong's concordance as well as the Brown driver and Briggs lexicon. They completely disagree with you and and those two The the Brown the Strong's concordance and the Brown driver and Briggs lexicon are in complete agreement and.

So we got a problem here really big problem. This is a core teaching of him that you can limit God and his whole claim is is that the word mind means? Imagination. But it doesn't. And he claims that that the only definition of that word in Strong's concordance is conception and I would note in Strong's concordance That's the definition.

That's well overtly missing. So he's he's just false here on so many levels. That's what the word means. Your mind is where you conceive things.

But yet Sarah does not mean that without me going into a lengthy teaching on this. Hopefully everybody understands where babies come from. You have to conceive babies. The stork doesn't bring them.

So this is a core part of his doctrine here based upon a completely false understanding of the definition of yet Sarah and Based and then making the claim because the only meaning of the word yet Sarah is conception.

Well, we have to conceive things in our imagination.

False doctrine. Straight up pregnant drinking the water after somebody else. You have to conceive children.

Well, it's the same thing you have to conceive a miracle you have to conceive of. I have to conceive a miracle. I Don't even want to know what goes into that but um, no, that's not what the scripture says at all.

If this were a true doctrine Then you would see it laid out for us. The scripture would say you need to conceive a miracle or there would be were verbiage. That that is different like the different wording that means that same thing.

But just your your understanding of the definition of yet Satter. Based upon the strong concordance. The strong concordance disagrees with your singular definition of conception. That's the the definition that's missing and it's conceived in your mind and.

Specifically even more specifically in your imagination. If you can't see it in your heart. You will never see it in the physical realm.

Says no Biblical text.

Anywhere and.

Yet Satter doesn't mean this at all either. And again, there's people that know what God wants you to do.

But do you spend time conceiving it? Do you?

Have you spent time conceiving what God wants you to do? I? Can't even make sense of that sentence. Spend time meditating on it.

Do you take the word and let it paint a picture on the inside of you of what you are desiring?

That's not what we're instructed to do by Scripture all right last soundbite and now he's gonna twist things up regarding Jesus using the same technique here and his technique is is to Make reference to the original languages, but clearly he hasn't studied them.

And what's he relying on the Strong's concordance? Which is not Enough. If you're gonna make reference to the original languages, you need to have studied them. And be able to be able to quote Lexicons correctly and things like that and be able to understand how words mean things in particular context.

But he's now going to go on with this idea that we can limit God and now he's building off this idea then of it's important to conceive miracles via the Imagination and he's going to claim that Jesus did that exact same thing that Jesus Conceived miracles through his imagination and he's going to miss misuse a Greek word and a bleppo to make that claim.

Let's take a listen.

When the scripture says just the opposite that when we see all of these negative things happening then lift up your eyes for your redemption. Draweth nigh. Did you know it right there Matthew chapter 24 when it says lift up your eyes?

That's the exact same word. It's an a bleppo and it's the same word that is used in Mark chapter 8. When it's now I'm gonna note something here.

Again, I'm not trying to be overly technical and I apologize that this is a technical lesson. Matthew 24 the word and a bleppo does not appear in Matthew 24. Let me let me show you what I did in preparation for this episode.

I just did a quick search. I actually did a search in my accordance software here and I looked in the New Testament for every instance of an a bleppo and an a bleppo occurs three times in the book of Matthew Matthew 11 Matthew 14 and Matthew 20 it does not appear in in Matthew 24.

So the the verse that he's referencing lift up your eyes for your redemption draweth nigh. That's from the gospel of Luke chapter 21 and I would note that That that Luke 21 is not one of the places where an a blep well, let's see him.

Yeah, here it is. Okay, Jesus looked up and he saw the rich putting their gifts into the offering box. The the only time in an and Luke 21 and an a bleppo appears is in that context. And it does not appear in the context of lifts up your eyes for your redemption draweth nigh.

The actual the actual text there says lift up your head not your eyes. Lift up your head. In fact, let me do this. I'm going to grab here and I'm gonna go lift Up your head. Okay. Hang on a second here.

I need to not look in the epistles. I'm going to look in the New Testament lift up your head. Okay, hold on a second here, here we go your head and it's Luke 21 Luke 21 28 now when these things begin to take place straighten up and raise your heads.

Because your redemption is drawing near Luke 21 28 and a bleppo does not appear there. So the text itself is not saying lift up your eyes. The text itself says lift up your heads your Kefalas, okay, so we've got a problem another problem here.

Not only does Strong's concordance Not say that yet there means to conceive and that's its only definition Luke Matthew 24 Does not have the reference of lifting up your eyes that reference is in Luke 21 and it's not lift up your eyes.

It's lift up your heads. So he's making all kinds of errors here. I mean, this is kind of heading into like Joe Biden territory. The gaffes are getting big. So, let me let me back this up and now that you know this again overly technical my apologize.

My apologies we continue that when we see all of these negative things happening then lift up your eyes for your redemption. Draweth nigh.

Luke 21 says lift up your heads.

Did you know it right there Matthew chapter 24 when it says lift up?

Yeah, it's that Anna bleppo does not appear in Matthew 24. Your eyes that's the exact same word.

It's Anna bleppo and it's the same word that is used in Mark chapter 8 when it says that God I mean that he caused this blind man. He prayed for him and he could only see partially and he said look he made him look up.

Another time the word Anna bleppo Anna means again and bleppo means to see so it means he made him look again. Or he made him look twice and it's the exact same word That's used in Mark chapter 6 when it says that when Jesus took the five loaves and the two fishes he blessed them.

He looked up and blessed them. It's the same word and it's talking about he saw twice. He looked past just his five loaves and two fish and he saw into the spiritual realm. Jesus saw.

He saw that food feeding the multitudes. That's his imagination. Except that's not how Anna bleppo works. So let's let's take a look at Anna bleppo here. So I let's see. Am I I gotta come back here. So Anna bleppo.

So he made reference to the gospel of Mark, right? So and taking okay and taking five loaves and two fish. He looked up to heaven and said a blessing and broke the loaves and gave them to the disciples.

Okay, so the text says. And so taking the five loaves. And he broke the five loaves and gave them to the disciples. And he took Anna bleppo from the heavens. Okay, so we're gonna note here Anna bleppo appears here.