April 30, 2019 Show with John Otis on “Scripture’s Unchanging Authority”

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His name is Reverend John M Otis, and he is an ordained minister an author and the founder of

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He's also the director of the Good News Bible series for Reformation Christian

ministries, and we are going to be discussing scriptures unchanging authority The reason the

Bible must be the basis for understanding God and his work in the world of man.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio Reverend John M Otis.

It's always great to be with you. Amen.

Well before we go into the subject at hand, let's find out a little bit more about the

Good News Bible series and Reformation Christian ministries.

Yes for about four years I've been at

the program that

we had just gives you

a

feedback that

you got

it,

right or

or not.

Go back to review and then you have quizzes after each Section then you have a final test.

It's not difficult but what we're endeavoring to do Chris is to get people back

into a Serious study of the scriptures.

So that's what the Good News Bible series is all about.

Great.

If you could tell us also a little bit more about Reformation Christian ministries.

Reformation Christian ministries was begun years ago

in 1990.

I have he

originally and

They've

been two

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Well.

I am so glad that you're carrying the torch for the ministry and for those of you who want to

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Well now we're going to be Entering into the main theme that we have today

scriptures unchanging authority.

The reason the Bible must be the basis for understanding God and his work in the world of man.

First of all the scriptures.

They cannot be merely viewed as many do as a wonderful book of wisdom

where we can search through the pages and find things that melt

our heart and things that we think are Our wonderful placards to remember

sentimental things and even even important things that can help us direct our lives,

but To the exclusion of everything else that is in there that makes us uncomfortable.

The Bible is an inerrant from beginning to end it does not have any error and it is breathed out of the mouth

of God is it not.

Absolutely that's what the word

and.

Today we have Liberal scholars and ministers

who Would would believe that much of the Bible is true.

Some might even say that it is the Word of God, but they do not believe that it is unchanging.

They believe that it applies to particular cultures in any particular era of

time and especially the past and that will especially be

made evident whenever you see any kind of a conversation or a debate that a conservative

Bible -believing evangelical Christian may have with a advocate of

homosexuality or some other Thing that is clearly taught in Scripture.

To be wickedness in a damning sin.

And so therefore you will have People say well, yes Paul Was

very opposed to some same -sex relationships, but these were only involved.

But these only involved prostitution.

You might have some of them say that well in Paul's day.

Or in the even the days of the Old Testament as well.

You did not have loving faithful monogamous Homosexual relationships

like you do today.

This is basically talking about rampant promiscuity amongst those engaging in same -sex activity.

But but you we cannot look at the Bible that way either.

The the unchanging part of this theme is very important.

Isn't it problem today?

There are so

many people

that's

how they do that now.

You don't have to be Homosexual or trans, but there's

a lot of well -meaning people they.

They go to the Bible to try to prove what they.

What you believe

and what I believe doesn't matter.

What matters is what God says,

that's

what

the

problem now.

Charles Stanley's son Andy Stanley Who has I think risen

to a popularity that?

And I could be wrong, but I think he's risen to a popularity that either equals or even exceeds the

popularity of his father today.

And he has said some very disturbing things

Lately in regard to The authority of the scripture because he only believes some of the

scriptures have authority according to his disturbing Quotes, but if you

could let us know what?

Yeah, I

would consider.

Let me just mention just a

few short quotes.

And these

are all for example.

He says these are direct quotes from Andy.

He says the Old Testament was not

the Jerusalem Council.

You are not accountable.

Shall not obey your

commandments.

Christians are wrong to try to defend the Ten Commandments Monuments as

participants in the New Covenant

are not required to obey any of the commandments of

their Bibles.

Participants of the New Covenant Expected to obey the single command

Jesus.

Covenant century

leaders.

Unhitched the church from the worldview value

system acted to unhitch the Christian

faith from the Jewish script.

Irving.

Yes, it's kind of interesting that Jesus himself said if you love me keep my commandments and at that time he was

clearly talking about.

Included in that Statement were the Ten Commandments.

Yes, if you go to.

All.

Authorities,

you shall not commit

adultery.

You shall not murder.

You shall not steal.

There's any other commandment.

It's summed up in this time.

I check Chris.

And I don't know if Andy Stanley said this at in any other part

of his message.

But even our brethren Who are considered or who identify

themselves as New Covenant?

Calvinists New Covenant theologians they

Believe that the Decalogue was specifically meant for Israel, but that Christ

Reiterated or brought or retained nine of them in the New Covenant.

So it's really a Sabbath issue when it comes down even though the the differences on

Both sides would be claimed by both sides to be greater than what I'm saying, but that is the

primary Issue is the Sabbath, but they still obviously believe

that thou shalt not kill and you know, thou shalt not commit adultery and and and all the other

commandments are a part of the of the Fabric of Christianity.

Now, do you know what?

Andy Stanley means by what he said, but why what you.

One of the things there was a podcast I

had about an hour

to grant a great

so I listen to that thing a while back.

What apparently is where

and he

studied

at

Dallas the

a lot.

What law would you?

Substitute so he's

choosing.

That is guys.

There was two call of

others says

believe Moses of me.

Walk of most spoke

of me.

Andy is me

summarized

in

commandments.

And of course,

we

have

to clarify that.

Not all dispensationalists followed the historic

Dallas Theological Seminary approach to the law and to repentance and the

necessity of repentance.

The Lordship controversy.

Lordship salvation controversy.

Had even dispensationalist divided where you had.

Dr. John MacArthur a very outspoken dispensationalist, but at the same

time Was in the forefront of defending the Lordship of Christ as a

as a required aspect of salvation in addition to repentance whereas many

At Dallas Theological Seminary in other places who were also dispensationalist.

We're saying in a way that really distorted very

greatly the concept the biblical.

The biblical pillar or watchword of the Reformation

Sola Fide that was twisted to Teach that only your

mental Ascent to the facts of the gospel were required for salvation

and you could continue to live like Satan himself for decades until you die.

And still expect to go to heaven that that is not what.

Yeah.

There is

yes.

People seem to make a very wrong and deadly conclusion.

That to insist upon repentance somehow is siding with Roman

Catholicism on the idea that our works contribute to the meriting

of our Entrance into heaven, but that's not at all what people who believe in the necessity of

repentance are saying, right?

One of the things that

wall the

Bible views it

says use of

the many times Jesus and

of course

winning by Jesus.

We should learn a lot from one example for us in all of

those temptations.

He's taking all those.

Well one one thing that we also have to clarify when we say

the scriptures unchanging authority is That there are people who would

agree with that statement wholeheartedly.

But they would say in conclusion to that truth That we should all be

Judaizers that we should be requiring Old

Covenant ceremonial law in Addition to moral law and the New Covenant and that's why you do

have some aberrant groups claiming to be Christian.

Some of them might believe in the gospel but there are even those that

Are works righteous oriented there?

There are cults that are denied the Trinity that guilt that that would Describe themselves as

messianic movements or messianic Congregations that are really

counterfeit because they don't even some of them don't even believe in the deity of Christ.

But but the point is that We have to be leery about not being guilty of Judaizing because

that is a damning sin.

That's a sin that Paul rebuked the Church of

Galatia for being duped to believe by the Judaizers and he

said it's no gospel at all and He said that those who bring such a false gospel

gospel are to be anathematized or cursed to hell.

Right

or shadow

the

Judaizers

the

basis

of

King

that

troublesome

issue.

To the Council of

Jerusalem that we

improperly understood.

We're talking in

the civil

realm and.

We do have to grapple as Christians with the fact that.

That although God himself is unchanging in his scripture is unchanging.

That God has dealt with his people in different ways throughout the centuries.

That his creation has existed.

Obviously there was a day when God spoke directly to his people

through divine revelation.

They actually heard his voice in their ears and at times there were

appearances Christophanies and so forth.

That do not happen in the 21st century.

That do not happen as far as we who are cessationists are concerned after the apostolic error.

Right

in

Hebrews

chapter 1.

In fact, it's

in these

last

days

a progress about

right.

Excuse

Creator he redeemed and that's why

special revelatory.

Yeah.

The the revelation the general revelation described in Romans 1 is only enough to get us condemned

because we're there without excuse.

Right,

and so

they

progress

and

realize quoted often.

From the Old Testament and he appealed to the

Old Testament.

No, they didn't.

I mean

you can clearly

go and see that.

All the places that they appealed to yes.

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Reverend Otis we have one of the reasons Excuse me.

One of the key reasons that we are to view the Bible as our

authority and in fact as historic Protestants

we are to view it as the only Infallible and inerrant authority for the church.

As opposed to the traditions of men as the Roman Catholic Church elevates those traditions of their

church To the level of scripture and some would say even to the level of

superiority over the scripture.

But one of the reasons that we are to view the Holy Scriptures as an authority as our only

Infallible inerrant authority is that it is true.

As God inspired all

scripture God

put

this

way.

Someone

says

why would you believe in an insane?

No, in fact,

there's

one section

that you

look up

the rebel

book where

scripture speaks.

God

speaks.

So God is tying himself.

Now that's a very

key reason why a faithful minister of the gospel unlike many

professed pastors and preachers and evangelists and Media personalities who are televangelists

and television faith healers so -called.

The faithful minister is to saturate the word that he proclaims from the pulpit with

God's Word because that is the only way God speaks to his people is through his word.

And if the pastor has just a little bit of God's Word and the most and the vast majority of his

sermons or messages or Sharing time whatever you want to call it is filled with his

own personal anecdotes and stories and jokes and I like a good joke as much as

the next guy.

People know me for my sense of humor and perhaps they think I Use it too much

but in a pulpit It's really God's Word that needs to dominate everything that is said and

of course the pastor is to exegete that word.

Voice of

God he

would have

trials on

the name

of

the Lord

and shall

they

call

upon

him.

How shall they believe is not heard?

And how shall they hear without a preacher and how shall they preach unless they are sent?

Just that is written how beautiful are the feet of those who

the faith comes from.

He incredible thing in verse 14.

Chris.

It's preaching through his

preachers.

So I've always said one of the most powerful things is when a human preacher is faithful

to the scriptures.

Then you have heard the voice of Christ.

Amen, and that's why

the the pastor or the preacher is.

Not to be the focal point his own personality or his own

Being is not to be what is most Concentrated on by the listener.

It is the Word of God.

Now, of course God uses The personalities of men.

He uses the particular character traits of men their voices and so on

even the quality of their voices and the quality of their intellect and their

Organizational skills when they prepare a message, so I'm not trying to remove The involvement of the

preacher and the importance of what he contributes to a sermon.

But at the same time he's supposed to as it were step out of the way and let the the Word of God

itself Bring a message to those listeners whether it is something They

rejoice over or something that strikes terror in them and something that they hate as long as it's

truly from his word.

Gospel, man,

and I understood the right way.

So you got understood what he meant.

Purpose is you want to get across?

What God's an

anglican

minister.

Anyone was

cold?

Preaching all of a sudden here comes Whitfield along is

one of the things

that was noted

about him.

Many preachers same clarity.

Faithfully

preaches

with that.

Yeah.

Now it's interesting that you brought up Edwards because I don't know if it was only

when he read sinners in the hands of an angry God and in fact, I've heard different

reports about this, but I Have heard that Edwards Reading

of that sermon which God used to bring about revival in New England

Was he read it deadpan emotionless and so on.

Didn't want the Didn't want to manipulate the emotions of men to bring

about a response from them and on the in the end, of course you had Whitfield who was

Yelling at the top of his lungs and Benjamin Franklin who used to go to hear him speak was

Amazed at the distances with which he could hear Whitfield.

And of course, there was no amplification That we have today like electronically

and so forth.

So that instance with Steps

of the Franklin did not believe the reports

as Whitfield

began to preach Franklin Began to walk off the distance of city

blocks.

He walked ten city blocks.

Three -feet purple

Whitfield had a voice probably unlike and

one of them was certainly open -air preaching.

Obviously.

All mostly open -air because he was right.

Well, but it's it's that's there's a Romans 828 a situation.

If I ever heard one where he's denied the pulpits and God brings him out into the streets where it tens of thousands of people.

Yeah.

But it going back to Edwards.

Is that urban legend about Edwards being deadpan and quiet and Emotionless or is

that just for the sinners in the hands of an angry God or I think it's.

There is some

merit to

not preach at his own church.

He preached it.

Yeah.

I think he had read his sermon previously, but it didn't have any impact or none like that at the the

other church.

Well, he was not he was not no one of the

reasons.

What matters is teacher is

always Isaiah

15.

Hey, man,

wherever

the scripture is, but you

know, actually

Spurgeon was story.

Yes in a blizzard.

He wandered into a primitive Methodist Church.

Yeah.

And somebody who was not even the pastor because the pastor was either at home in bed because of the blizzard or it's something I Don't

know but the pastor wasn't there.

And a layman in the church It kept repeating a phrase a verse of the scripture

and I and I even it's John 3.

It talks about being lifted up referring to the right in the serpent

and in and later Spurgeon will say about him.

He says this man.

These are the words that Spurgeon used.

He was an ignorant man, right?

However for ten minutes he rambled on.

But it was at that point That God used it.

That demonstrates that.

Here's a ten -minute message of a man who articulate and string together

sensible.

According to the Spurgeon God still uses that just goes to prove the true teacher

is the Holy Spirit.

I like

to preach a

thing.

Derivative.

It really that's the derivative thing was dynamite from the Greek word dunamis.

So the

Holy Spirit, in fact,

I just

heard a message on.

Saturday at the Philadelphia Conference on Reform Theology that I just attended this past week

and a really really wonderful Anglican minister Henry

Jansma Who is a theologically reformed Anglican low church Anglican

and Calvinist Anglican who's a member of the Anglican Church of North America.

It is not a part of the Mainline Episcopal Church, but he preached a message or gave a

message a lecture on exactly what you were just saying that although there is

some reason for great concern on the homiletic aspect of

sermon delivery that we cannot be overly consumed with that because The Word of God is a

living and true word and it will achieve what God and complete what God

Intends it to accomplish.

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If you are a man in ministry leadership Then I am going to be leaving right after.

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the in December December 19th and the 20th.

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I will be there as well, and I hope to see you there.

The speakers at this conference as Always are really magnificent lineup of

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Paul Washer.

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York City and I hope to see you there.

Look for me when you're there at the venue only holds a little less than 200 people.

So if you want to register do so soon before they run out of room.

Then I'm gonna be packing up my bags in January and heading back down south to Atlanta,

Georgia.

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I'm going to the g3 conference which is being held at the Georgia International Convention Center in College Park, Georgia

a suburb of Atlanta and The theme this January is

worship matters.

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and They have a phenomenal lineup of speakers.

Kosti Hinn and as I keep saying when I mentioned his name you probably that name

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Benny Hinn and Kosti Hinn his nephew who is speaking at the g3 conference

repented of his word -of -faith heresies and has dedicated his

life to exposing his uncle and those of his ilk for the frauds and heretics that they

are and He is a cessationist and a Reformed Baptist today.

I'm speaking of Kosti Hinn.

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David Miller is on the lineup a good old -fashioned a fire and brimstone preacher

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Derek Thomas who many of you recognize especially if you're Reformed what a what a wonderful preacher and writer.

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Dr. James R. White of Alpha Omega Ministries.

Dr. Joel Beakey pastor of Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

My friend Josh Bice who is the founder of the g3 conference.

Paul Washer again is on this roster as well.

And so is Stephen Jay Lawson.

My friend Tom Askell the president of Founders Ministries is on the lineup and Votie Baucom.

What a extra what an extraordinary powerful man of God Votie Baucom is.

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Chrisarnson at gmail .com and Reverend Otis.

Do you want to go right into the book of Amos as you were going to or do you want to take a listener question?

Let me go to the book of Amos and there was several.

That's fine in

Amos 8.

Well, let me

just

preface in

Romans chapter 1.

But the worst kind of I really do believe what

we're seeing.

The worst.

Jays

are coming because

in the fast famine for

and people will stagger from

sea to sea.

From the north even to the east they will go to and fro to seek the word of the Lord.

The worst

thing

that can happen

the

Bible

views

itself.

Why do I

believe the Bible

to be credible past clearly

devised

tales?

We made known to you the power when

we received the honor and glory from God the Father.

Such an utterance of this was made to him by the most

heard this utter

prophetic word.

Here's the passage.

We have the prophetic word made more sure.

To which you do well to pay attention.

As to a lamp.

Shining in a dark place until the day draws.

Know this first of all that no prophecy of Scripture.

It's a matter of one's own interpretation.

For no prophecy was ever made by an

act of

you

according

to the

scriptures.

Jesus rose again from the dead.

Peter says the Word of God in

sore testimony.

Right.

Praise God.

And We have Grady a very faithful listener of iron chirping's iron radio and also a

very generous donor and benefactor for iron chirping's iron radio.

Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina.

Says.

Great show brother Chris and brother Otis.

After all these years Satan the father of lies is still trying to discredit God's Holy Word.

His first attack in Genesis 3 was against God's Word.

Why do you think others will claim Christianity if they don't believe or obey the infallible inerrant

Word of God.

Are they blinded by Satan.

Excellent questions?

Well,

while

you're looking it up.

I will remind our listeners of our email address if you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own

like Grady.

Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com Chr is they are nzen and gmail .com

and please as always give us at least your first name your city and state of residence.

And your country of residence if you live outside the USA and only remain anonymous if your question involves personal and

private matter.

Okay.

For such

men are false

apostles deceitful workers Disguising themselves as apostles of Christ and

no wonder for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

Grady's question is why people call

themselves Christians.

Why do they identify themselves that way if they don't even believe in the inerrance? the inerrancy and the

infallibility of God's Word.

And you even as you know, you'll have denominations that Not only

identify as Christian, but they'll even identify with great heroes of the faith of

the past.

Like you have the United Methodist Church identifying with John Wesley.

And in addition to identifying themselves more importantly with Jesus Christ himself and

yet they deny many of the most Important vital things taught by

not only John Wesley a mere human being but also Jesus Christ.

Why is why do they perpetuate this, you know, and you have the mainline Presbyterians, of course.

And of course there I know that there are faithful Christians in these denominations.

I don't mean to broad brush and say that they all are heretical or apostate but many of them are and

many many in leadership and those denominations are and you have

Presbyterians who John Knox would never set foot in their church nor would John Calvin.

And if Jesus Christ entered their doors It would be sure it would surely to be to speak

condemnation to them and and Command them to repent.

But anyway, I'm I think that is a very

Remember when we have a Holy

Spirit I guess as Jesus said who didn't say that I am and Peter

spoke of you're the Christ of the Living God.

And Then Jesus says flesh and blood did not reveal this

knowing that scriptures.

Jesus Treasured the scriptures.

One has to ask himself.

Where's the Holy Spirit in this person's life?

If they deride the

scriptures,

I will say this I did

not grow up in a Christian home.

I became a Christian stick.

I didn't know any better.

I believed in evolution, but when God saved me by his sovereign grace

Well, I had to defend the Bible that everything in the Bible

Had to be true.

Now I didn't have any education whatsoever.

I knew at this point that I would that somehow

I'd have to

just came with the territory.

Because I believe when God saved someone you have to have the Holy Spirit.

Romans 8 says you don't have the Holy Spirit.

You don't have you don't know the Lord, right?

So that is a Modified question to raise

but it challenges the scripture.

Yeah, I mean you

you can have you can have.

Bible scholars who are Geniuses who have Photographic

memory who might be able to recite Enormous portions of scripture from

memory and yet they're as lost as Hitler, you know that.

They're they'd be they don't have the Holy Spirit in them.

And just because they know what's in the Bible Does not mean that they are

born again.

In fact.

You can even believe unlike a liberal.

You can believe That these things you're reading are facts.

But if your life has not been transformed by the Holy Spirit It is evidence that you have

the same kind of faith that James says the devil's have.

You believe there is one God.

You do.

Well, but even the demons believe and they tremble.

Yeah.

Just as you know how we were exhorting and encouraged

so that you may walk in a manner for this

reason.

We also call you received from us the Word

of God.

You accepted it not as the Word of men.

But for what it really is a Paul was

not the first preacher to

it.

I began preaching.

You knew you knew it was a message

and you knew in your heart that it was the Word of God.

How would they

know that God sometimes when I preached

up?

Why do I believe the Bible to be the Word of God?

I believe the

Bible to be.

I believe the

Bible to be.

The world of

the Bible

is God is said.

I faith doesn't my

faith respond according to the scriptures because Jesus said

he would rise from the dead.

In fact is

was not

the 12.

But he met up with him on the road to Emmaus and he says to him they were dejected.

And he says to them is happening and

some of those who were

with us to the tomb found it.

Exactly the women it said but he and they did not.

Oh foolish me to believe all that the

prophets have spoken.

Was it not necessary for the Christ

to these are my words, which I all things

which were written about me in the law.

The Psalms he

rebuked him.

You had the

scriptures.

I'm gonna read a question to you from a listener and then I'm going to have you answer it when we come

back from our Final break which is going to be much more brief than the last one.

But we have Christopher from Suffolk County, Long Island, New York.

Who says I was browsing through your triumphant? Publications ministry website and

I noticed that you are an author of a book that critiques or seeks to refute theistic evolution.

Having said that I find it interesting that I believe you are a pre suppositional list

and yet most people involved in the Creation defense of a literal

young earth six -day creation are Evidentialists.

I was wondering if you could provide an explanation on why a pre suppositional list

would write a book against theistic evolution.

And we're going to go to our Final break and we'll have John answer that

question when we return.

Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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This is Chris Arnson and we have been interviewing John Otis on scriptures on changing authority.

If you'd like to join us on the air You better do so immediately because we're running out of time.

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brother Otis.

We heard from Christopher and Suffolk County, Long Island, New York who wants to know why a Presuppositionalist

would write a book defending young -earth Creationism and against

theistic evolution because in his experience most people who address or focus on such

matters are evidentialists if you could very quickly define the difference between a Presuppositionalist

and evidentialist and explain why you would write a book as a presuppositionalist on this topic.

I do.

If I believe

the Word of God read a

section

that

Evolution is evolution a proven fact and are the findings of modern science.

Herbert the Bible some today think so.

They're called theistic evolutionists.

They want to wed was never intended to be taken in

the plain meaning of the word

I take you.

Martin Luther said you should take the plain meaning Ordinarily take the plain meaning of

Scripture.

I believe the Genesis account to be accurate because the Bible says so the days mean days you

can do the Harmonetic dust mean hybrid form

that evolved over millions of years.

That's imposing something.

I'll take any

Presuppositionalist.

What now would an

evidentialist in contrast to a presuppositionalist?

View the using of evidence.

Because I know that both use evidences.

I mean a presuppositionalist who's in a debate.

Well, if he's in a debate, he's going to produce evidence to Convince an audience of

what he believes.

But is it that the the evidentialist? believes that.

Perhaps they they deny Romans one too much even if unconsciously would that be it because they believe they

have to convince men of The existence of God and so forth one.

One time I heard John Ankerberg

stood behind him while he was Ankerberg.

He was a true evidentialist said to them and I appreciate it

however.

He was saying I'm trying to present to you the evidences of Christianity and all this and I was getting frustrated.

And I was thinking John just preach to them John.

If I take Paul and act 17 he preached to people the Stoics

and the Epicureans who did not believe in a resurrection.

So what did Jesus say?

God has raised up this man Jesus.

It didn't bother Paul one bit that they didn't believe.

We have to be careful how we

use evidences.

Yes, I use evidences only in a corroborative sense.

But never ever as the basis for my faith.

If someone could say what's going to happen if they find the bones of Jesus, I go.

Well, whatever they found is not Jesus.

No, because the scripture says he rose again from the dead.

Paul said according to the scriptures Amen.

Well, we're out of time brother Otis and I look forward to you returning soon and often.

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Amen.

Well, thank you so much John and Thank everybody who listened especially those who took the time to write

and I want all of you to always Remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far

far greater Savior than you are a sinner.

We look forward to hearing from you and your questions for our guests tomorrow on iron sharpens iron radio.