May 10, 2022 Show with Virgil Walker on “The New Lows of Leftist Protestors Viewed Through Biblical Lenses”

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Wishing you all a happy Tuesday on this 10th day of May 2022 and

I'm excited to have back on the program one of my favorite guests his name will be

no Stranger to our listeners Virgil Walker executive director of

operations G3 ministries and he's co -host with Daryl Bernard Harrison of the just

thinking podcast and co -author of a new book with Daryl Bernard Harrison

Titled why are you afraid today?

We're going to be addressing the new lows of leftist protester views Viewed through

biblical lenses.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio Virgil Walker.

Hey, brother, it's excited to get a chance to talk to

you.

Whatever the topic is wherever we're lens of a biblical worldview.

So glad to be with you.

Glad to join you.

Thanks for having me.

Well, first of all, let our listeners know about g3 ministries and also.

Very excited to be attending once again the g3 conference.

This will actually be even though I've been At I believe at least five g3

conferences.

I've never been to one of the regional conferences and I'm excited to be there.

Coming up in September in Washington DC, but first tell us about g3 ministries.

Yeah, Jesus tree that

For the glory of God and and we do so in a number of ways one which you just mentioned is our

conferences.

G3 started as a conference based ministry.

The national g3 conference is something that people have come to enjoy over the course of the years.

I got involved in about 2017 with g3 and Attending that their

national conferences and they've just grown exponentially over the course of years.

This is a ministry that started in 2012 and Dr. Josh

Bice as the founder and president and he just wanted to have a feel of theology conference.

Began to do so and unbeknownst to him the excitement and enthusiasm around

sound biblical exposition and preaching Sound doctrine and theology was was so

enormous that this this, you know.

What's local church conference if you will began to explode

to the point where they had to take it off?

Off -site from that local church and then to where some of the convention centers around the Atlanta

area.

And so it's again I I showed up.

I was I watched it online for years.

From where I sat and and then was able to attend my first Conference in 2017 and so it's

just gone from you know about 3 ,000 and about in 2017 to

where we were this last year at the convention center here in Georgia the Georgia World Congress Center.

Where we hosted somewhere the neighborhood about 6 ,500 people from around the world.

We had every speaker that you can imagine that you would like to hear everybody from dr Steve

Woffman to voting Bacchum to to John MacArthur.

Of course Josh Bice was there you name it.

We had it and it's it's come to be Something that people think of during the course of the

years as something they want to mark down.

It's kind of become what some refer to as as sheep Khan you have you have Shep Khan there

in California.

With with with dr. John MacArthur and so sheep Khan.

This is not just for pastors.

It's for the whole family.

So you'll see the whole family come out to a g3 event and really enjoy The

experience and so it's a little bit about g3 with where our transition.

I'll simply say this.

We are transitioning from a conference -based ministry solely to one that provides resources

to local churches.

I was a education and Discipleship pastor there in Omaha, Nebraska for years.

I would show up to these conferences in an effort to gather information

Connect with with brothers from around the country and really grow in you know there at

my local church.

What we've decided to do it over the course of some time is we wanted to develop Resources that

could be of benefit to local church pastors where they are.

We've brought on not only have they Have I've been able to join the team as the executive director of operations.

We also have dr. Scott annual who has come over.

He was a seminary professor for years at Southwestern.

He's come on.

He's now the executive vice president.

And editor -in -chief There at g3, and he is just churning out

for discipleship for a family discipleship Education and

the like for local churches all over we're developing the g3 church network.

Which which is a network of churches that connect with us and are encouraged on a monthly basis.

There's just so many things I could go on and on.

There's so many things that are happening right now at g3.

And it's just become ground zero as a one -stop shop for local church pastors and the

like.

Amen well, I'm excited to be attending as I already mentioned your upcoming

regional conference in Washington DC September 15th through the 17th,

and you've got an excellent lineup There as well.

You have Steve Lawson you have Josh Bice you have my dear friend.

Many years going back to 1996 Dr. James R. White of Alpha Omega ministries.

And of course, you've got you and Darrell Bernard Harrison of the just thinking podcast.

And the theme is going to be just thinking the Bible now.

That's a very Broad topic in and of itself.

What are you going to be specifically highlighting on the Bible?

Yeah, I appreciate that the regional conferences Let me start by telling you the regional conferences are something that we

really aimed to put in places and spaces that Didn't have as much gospel light.

We normally think of the you know that the South as a buckle of the Bible belt.

Maybe Atlanta being a part of that as well.

It's just just a lot of southern churches a lot of able to connect with folks.

So we wanted to look for an area in the country where we felt like you know There may be some

pieces of the puzzle and we were excited to lock arms with a church there in

Virginia In manual Bible Church there, so we'll be on that site primarily.

But also connecting our folks who attend the conference to the to the Bible Museum.

So they'll have an opportunity to engage their.

G3 was kind -hearted enough to connect with Darrell and me on the just thinking side.

And and as a part of that we kind of that we kind of co -branded this with G3 and with just thinking with

just thinking Podcast well the idea that since we were going to be there in at near the Museum of the Bible It

will be important for us to talk about an issue That really covers the ground.

If you will on so many different areas, which which is this

convention who

believes that you know?

There may be a need for us to add on you know additional Analytical tools like CRT

and an effort to understand the real nature of Racism and the like it when as we look around the landscape of

culture.

We're seeing this in whether it searches whether it's Episcopal churches you

you look anywhere around mainline Christianity

Evangelical attack on will give lip

service to yeah, I believe the Bible's inerrant most will do that.

Few will really understand what it means that the Bible is sufficient.

So we've got some great men who are going to be a part of this conference that folks will not want to miss.

I can Guarantee you we're going to be talking about Biblical sufficiency and applying it

well praise God and once again folks.

And I will be God willing repeating this later on but the conference is

September 15th through the 17th in Washington DC and for more details

on registering go to g3 min Org g3 min org and click on events

and you will see just thinking about the Bible.

The conference in DC September 15 17th.

I'm very excited about being there when and I haven't been to DC in many many years.

So that's an extra added Excitement for me.

In fact, I don't even think I've been to Washington DC and since I was in grammar school.

Yeah, yeah.

It's interesting Chris thinking about going there in fact as we began kind of putting this together.

We were we were assessing kind of you know where things were politically with

with regard to Masked mandates and vaccine, you know things that we that were

required.

We were fortunate that we were on the tail end of all of that.

So none of that kind of thing at this point is required.

We definitely checked with the folks at the Museum of the Bible to investigate where they were with

all of that.

It's all of that free and clear so folks are going to be able to really come and enjoy just a special time and again.

As if you haven't been a part of the regional conferences if the goal of that is kind of to put you in the mindset of.

Maybe what you experienced Chris when you first started coming.

I know you've been with g3 The conference for quite some time probably going back to the days

when they were at Praise Mill.

And so it's more that smaller.

Intimate setting the opportunity to really connect with people have access to speakers and the like.

It's it's going to be a real real great opportunity.

Well, another thing I'm excited about is you and Daryl have co -authored another book and

This one's titled.

Why are you afraid that is a very compelling title?

Tell us about the we're looking around we're gonna be talking about this some

today.

Just the the app that seems to surround every decision and every issue.

Relate whether it's whether it's a political issue whether it's an economic issue.

At the time that when we were writing this people were wrestling with whether or not they were going to Maintain their jobs because they

were being required to take vaccines right in order to maintain a job.

So with all of that there was just the uncertainty the fear that was taking place.

But again, none of that has abated right?

We've just witnessed You know economic costs for you know, the inflation rising.

In fact, I was just reading a report today.

That that baby formula is actually, you know not not available in as

great quantities as it had been.

So with all of the ideas about Fear and what we're seeing in culture how everything seems to seem to be

pushing us in that direction.

I think Daryl and I sat down and thought it would be really wise and prudent of us to

Write something put something together and again, this was based upon a podcast.

That we had done about the same topic with the same title Why are you afraid and we really wanted to settle

for the Christian for the believer?

The issue of fear and and that we are to fear the Lord and that we're As we do that all the other

things that we're that we're concerned about will align themselves.

As we understand God's sovereignty in all things his providence in all things.

And really begin to have a biblical worldview as it relates to what culture is trying to do related to fear

now.

Is this the first publication of g3 press.

Because I knew you guys were launching g3 press.

But I had never actually seen a book cover yet until I'm looking right now

at your book.

Why are you afraid?

Yeah, this was a first opportunity for for us to be published by g3 press we were extremely

excited again.

This partnership is it's pretty deep for us On the just thinking side.

Darrell Darrell and me and and then with with Josh Bice and and what the team Just kind

of began to just kind of co -labor think how can we leverage opportunities with us?

There's some other Connection points there, there's some other ways in which we've partnered.

But this was one of the first forays that was that really took took took hold we felt like it would be a good First

launch and and so far it's proven to have done incredibly.

Well, we're always wanting to get it into the hands of as many people as possible.

But again g3 press just launched they've got a number of books already that are out on

the press.

So you can you know if you're interested in learning more go to g3 Min dot o RG and just

kind of look up the press or you can go to our store three men at o RG

forward slash Shop, you can go to our shop and see all of the books that are there and the other things that are available.

The resources that are there as well if you go to the website.

There's a number of different things that you can download for free again.

I talk about this endlessly because there's so many great things that are happening in the press having a having a press.

Being able to publish publish works.

It's something that we're extremely excited about and Darrell and I are really excited about launching

The first book with with with g3 press.

Well praise God, and I'd love to have you and Darrell on the show together soon to address

the very theme of that book.

Absolutely, we'd be delighted to.

Well one of the things people are afraid about right now Is or

are the new lows of leftist protesters.

It is is really discouraging to say the least it's sickening.

Because not only are there violent protesting going on and

Protests have been going on ever since this country began and many of them for

very good and noble and right reasons, but here you have

protesters leftist protesters actually going to the homes of Supreme

Court justices and Being very threatening and

ominous thing and The thing that makes it all doubly

more disturbing is the fact that you have the president of the United States and many

very high up Executives and Authority Nancy Pelosi and others

giving their blessing to this and It's it's

Absolutely astonishing To see this.

I mean, I don't know why it's astonishing because it's very expected of these people but but in

light of the fact that the what occurred at

January 6 has been called an insurrection by them.

And people are still in jail.

Who very peacefully?

Protested they were they were guilty of trespassing.

They were guilty of breaking and entering but nothing of violence by them occurred.

Other than the fact that a police officer shot one of the protesters.

In fact.

Right.

The only one that died in that whole scenario was

a conservative woman who happened to be one of the protesters and there were.

At least one police officer died of natural causes.

It was not because of a violent attack or anything, but if you could.

Tell us how are we to look at all this through biblical lenses?

Yeah, I think I think to really begin you actually have to go back to to what created

all of this to begin with and it was the fact that.

That we had that we had a decision on the Supreme Court and as the draft

of that Decision made its rounds in the Supreme Court.

That information and so it really did and

then the response to that right the response to that wasn't we're gonna we're gonna

You know take every turn.

Investigate and really identify where this leak took place and and how it undermines

the the authority Of the Supreme Court and what takes place in those, you know in the halls of the

justice at the at the court at the Supreme Court level there was really little in

fact if you watched what was taking place in news outlets.

What they were doing was kind of they were actually congratulating.

You know.

This was good for us to know so that we can prepare in Advance to to see this thing overturned since it

hadn't hadn't come to the point of a final decision.

So that's kind of what you began seeing and that kind of set the tenor.

For what was to take place next which was that the next phase of this was to watch actors and

and I say that because the the you know, when you have

sworn to Uphold the law.

Folks that are in Congress who are supposed to carry themselves with a certain level of dignity.

What you had was a lot of them were we're taking to Twitter.

We're taking to Instagram.

We're taking to you know, social media outlets an effort to express their anger their outrage

and the like and so.

They were given the signals to others that that that they were free to go about and protest and let me say this.

You know, you mentioned it at the at the at the outset of your commentary.

Which is you know.

Our country is kind of built on on protest right on on the idea of a voice in your opinion making your

voice heard and known.

But there are grounds by which that's to happen and not to take place.

And so what we're witnessing now is is protest in an effort to change a decision.

Or to change the mind of the court and that's problematic.

All of this is in an effort to for God and so that's where we get to the biblical worldview on

this piece, right.

The issue of Roe v. Wade the idea of trying to cement or codify into law

that which God has called life.

That which God has called murder that which God has deemed is an image bearer

of God Created in his image and likeness worthy of value dignity and worth that shouldn't

whose life should not be taken.

And then you have another group another organization another group of people who are advocating that which God

opposes.

And so really at the end of the day.

We need to look at what's taking place through that lens and then we've got to go back to the law of the land.

So there's two facets to this one is the issue of sin right with it with the with the murder of a baby and then the

other is the legality aspect the criminal aspect of the law.

That needs to be looked at at a state federal and local level.

Those are the two pieces of the puzzle.

Yes, and the thing that is also extremely disturbing about

the modern -day Abortion so -called rights activists.

And those seeking abortions most of my life where I

was old enough to be aware and any detail at all about

Abortion.

And what was taking song?

Especially after I became a Christian though the the claim of the left

Used to be for a very long time.

No one can really say for certain when life begins.

That used to be the rhetoric.

We don't really know.

This is a human.

We don't know.

This is a baby, etc.

Etc, but according to people I know on the front lines like Jeff Durbin of

Apologia Church.

Who is very actively involved right in the trenches?

At abortion clinics at Planned Parenthood.

And infanticide mills as I think they should be more of appropriately cool.

And he has Been used by God he and his church and those who volunteer have been used by God to

rescue hundreds of babies.

From slaughter, but the thing that that that he told me a couple of years ago

that really Astonished me was that every he said every single woman

that he has stopped and spoken with as she was approaching the

Planned Parenthood about to murder her unborn child.

These women he said every one of them and he must have spoken to thousands

by now.

He said every one of them knew that they were killing a baby.

There was no excuse about a blob of cells.

Right.

That that makes it more disturbingly sinister and you have you

have a an obvious open

profession and declaration that the.

The murderers are very very aware that they are murder.

Yeah, I will tell you then like

Johnny Neano.

And you know people like that that who were out on the front lines of in fact here at my own

church here at Praise Mill Bobby McCreary.

All are women who who've gone out and been on the front lines at abortion mills.

It was it was actually a video that I watched almost eight years ago.

Probably nine years ago now of Tony Meano at a at an abortion mill that encouraged me

To go and do the same kind of thing.

So there I was in Omaha, Nebraska.

For about five years while I was there at the abortion mill.

Regularly and and I could bet the

vast majority of those of those girls who are going in new.

And and made us aware that they knew they were

kill it.

Only people that I run into that are trying to play the clump of cells with the

types of arguments.

Are those who who are trying to sway public opinion or wanting to sound softer?

To those that they recognize that they're if they're as blatant and as Open as they

need to be on this issue that it would sound Offensive that it would sound horrific.

And the reason it sounds that way is because it absolutely is.

Want you to know it's really not a not a baby.

This is no different than the arguments that were given for slavery, right?

We all what they what they didn't know those times that blacks weren't really human beings, right?

They weren't like us they were some of human or subhuman at least

in an effort to advocate.

Doing all kinds of inhumane things to slaves and so the same kind of argumentation

same kind of ideas here.

But I completely agree with you a that those men like that that were out doing the front

doing that kind of front line work work it repaired, you know.

Many many more to solve their work and was

inspired as I as I understood the issue of life as a believer.

And the need to advocate for those who can't speak for themselves.

I was definitely there for years at the abortion mill.

And of course you even have.

The murder of the unborn now being added

by the murder of the born.

You have and that's been going on for quite a while was going on even when Barack Obama

was a senator.

In.

Illinois and I don't even know how much farther but before him where

babies who were quote -quote accidentally Delivered alive

during an attempt at aborting them were merely put in a Box and put

in a storage closet and just left to die of natural causes quote -quote.

Yep utterly grotesque and just so.

Reminiscing of Nazi Germany.

I mean, it's just it's it's vile and You know, it's it's very

difficult for Christians very often to

keep their cool about this because of the intensity of how it is.

How what kind of counsel do you have as we as Christians?

Are interacting with people who are in favor of abortion and You know, you

don't want to lose your head and you don't want to be involved in a shouting match, but at the same time

you don't want to be just calm cool and collected to the point where

Your differences of opinion with a pro -infanticide individual may seem like

you're Having a discussion over your differences on eschatology or something.

I mean, right, right, right, right.

I think I think the I think Environment really plays a big deal and what I mean by that It's simply if

I'm at an abortion clinic, the conversation is going to sound very different.

Between me and someone who's an abortion minded at the clinic, right?

That's going to be very different than then what it may sound like over a dinner table conversation where maybe

relatives have come over for the holiday and the in the in the subject of Roe v. Wade

comes up and we're talking about it and interacting with one another so that that's that's the biggest.

I think there's a Difference there at the same time.

What I'm going to share in those spaces and places I think There's an aspect of it that needs to

be very matter -of -fact.

Because we need to recognize the truths that we share from the Word of God aren't our truth, right?

They're they're true whether we believe them or not.

They're God's truth and and and we're but ambassadors of that truth.

And so as ambassadors we I think there's a responsibility that we have to conduct ourselves in a way

that's befitting.

Someone who is indeed an ambassador For a kingdom and so we've got to be mindful of that.

Secondarily, I think it's critical that we engage the conversation to the degree that we can

Around the gospel because anyone who does not understand or have a biblical

worldview or be.

Their hearts and minds have been transformed by the gospel are going to even understand what

we're talking about.

We say that a human being is created in God's image has distinct value dignity and worth that.

They're not going to comprehend to understand they think they may they may give a nod to that but in their world view.

None of that makes sense.

And so I think it you know, we've got it.

We've got to think about those things and there are times when you know, I was listening to Thank Paul

Washer today was talking about sometimes.

It's important for us when we're engaged in in the in evangelism.

Rather than going at people be willing to pray for them.

There are times when maybe the conversation needs to be needs to be tailored off or tapered off.

Especially if you feel yourself getting Emotional or emotive about it to the degree that you're going to lose your

cool.

It's imperative that we step back and pray.

My wife always reminds me that that that that prayer is not the least we can do.

Prayer is the first thing that we should do and so be being prayerful about those folks who are who are just

blind.

Have no clear understanding of a biblical worldview is incredibly incredibly important.

But the gospel conversation is paramount even at the abortion mill.

I know that there are some pro -life folks who say hey don't bring that gospel to the door of the abortion clinic.

And there's there's no way for me not to do that.

That's that's got to be the case.

We have to engage With with the gospel because it really it really starts there.

We're going to offer all the free this free that free the other but we have we also have to let people know that they Can be free from their

sin as well, and that only takes place the repenting of sin and placing faith in Jesus Christ.

Wow, I didn't even know that there were pro -life individuals who would rebuke

Christian pro -life folks for bringing the gospel to the sit.

Oh, yes, absolutely.

Absolutely, there are there.

Yeah, those conversations are when you're out there, you know,

hey you could tap down the Gospel presentation just focus on getting you know.

Getting her getting this young lady to safe place and safe this and safe that.

And my response is always we're happy.

To provide all of those safe things.

But they need to know that they're coming to an abortion clinic more times than not.

For the purpose of hiding sin, right?

The baby is not the sin.

But but the issue of you know.

Having slept around having been promiscuous having had had this baby more times than not outside

of wedlock.

They're trying to cover something and we want them to know that the cover that they're looking for can only be found in

Jesus Christ by first repenting of sin and placing faith in him.

And so both kinds of things are just as important as as all the other aspects of engaging a

young lady.

At an abortion mill.

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Why are you afraid today?

We are addressing the new lows leftist protesters viewed through biblical lenses.

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We do have a listener who is not only a faithful and loyal

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In fact, you may even recognize this name yourself it's Grady from Asheboro, North

Carolina and Grady asks Brother Virgil,

please correct me if I'm wrong.

But from my viewpoint abortion for those having then Let me

Let me reread this.

I'm getting the wording a little bit awkward.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my point of view abortion for those having them

Seems to be from selfish desires not wanting the responsibility of raising a child.

However, those in authority seem to be motivate motivated by the amount of

monetary gain.

Look at the amount of dollars our government has given to the abortion industry.

Do you agree with this assessment?

I.

Think it's a sound one.

I really do.

I think most

if I their child on the altar of convenience.

It's inconvenient, you know financially

economically.

In other words, I was looking at some statistics today.

That said the vast majority of those who have abortion actually make more than 30

to the idea.

That only the impoverished only those who don't have money who don't have resources.

Who lack education are the ones getting abortion.

These people know that most of these ladies know what they're doing.

They've made a conscious decision to sacrifice their child on the altar of convenience and they do so

in some instances.

Very proudly I mean you you were witnessing that this week if you were watching the news where folks would get on

microphones and and shout their abortion out and.

Those kinds of ideas behind something so vile wicked and evil should never really be

taking place from a standpoint of Government and I really the issue is even deeper than

than you would suggest with regard to money.

This is a religion abortion is religion to those who

Advocated for those who are advocating this.

This is abortion is a sacrament, right?

It's a it's a it's a women.

It's an effort for them to to not have to be Entrapped as they see it by the

patriarchy.

They can have you know be sexually promiscuous

without any kind of recourse without any kind of consequence.

And can go on about their lives in the same way that they see men doing.

To not to have sex outside of marriage is wrong.

It's sinful.

But what they're wanting to do is again that they're wanting to ignore God what the

faithful operate in the manner in which they do and as one sin on

top of the other the fornication.

The abortion and apart from apart from the gospel of Jesus Christ apart from

repenting of that idea.

Ideology and way of thinking and and and repenting of sin and placing their full faith in Christ.

They'll have to they'll have to give an account.

At the at the end of their days.

I have to give an account to a holy God who who will see things rightly in that day.

Amen.

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Another listener.

We have RJ in White Plains, New York and RJ

Says.

I know that you and Darrell appear to be Opposed to the leftist

infatuation with race and the highlighting of race and making

race such a matter of distinction between persons but I was

wondering are those in error who are excited about Bringing

the reformed faith to the black community where it is in such a tiny minority even more of a

minority Than it is in the white community.

Is this an improper focus wanting to see our dear black?

Neighbors in the community come to the reformed faith.

I obviously know that evangelizing Christianity is

The much more important aspect no matter what color individuals are.

But how do you feel about those who are?

Really Targeting the black community and wanting them to come to see and understand

the doctrines of sovereign grace.

Yeah.

There's a there's a fine line with that.

There's an edge of the line that you want to you want to be careful not to cross on that and that is the

assumption.

That that all blacks are are monolithic in their thought in other words

All of them are engaged in prosperity preaching and that's all they know right or all of them are engaged in

Pentecostal ism or the word of faith and so they've got to hear reformed theology.

And so we're going to that that if that's the mindset, I think that's problematic I think the better heartbeat

behind and I sense that I sense that that is where The person asking the question is going the better

heartbeat around that is this is that you want to make sure that everyone Irrespective

of ethnicity has the opportunity to hear the truth of the gospel to

hear it proclaimed with crystal clarity to be Involved in expositional preaching that is

sound that is robust that includes doctrines of grace.

That allows folks to understand the sovereignty of God.

And and and the monarchistic effort of salvation on the part of God alone.

That we're saved by grace through faith in Christ alone and and and those kinds of things are important and there's

nothing wrong with being excited to see a people group.

Come into that knowledge.

I think when we begin to say, okay, we're going to go target these folks.

These these black folks and and here's what we need to do.

We've got it.

We got him, you know, we've got a Contextualize the message in an effort to reach him and you know.

We want to we want to sound a certain way and look a certain way.

Unfortunately plagues so much of evangelicalism that the pragmatic approaches the

contextualization of Not not just a text of scripture, but the whole manner in which we share the

gospel.

Oh, you mean you mean like white Democrats typically do in black churches?

As we all saw Hillary Clinton's attempt.

And who sounded more like an Appalachian?

White woman than the black voice that she was trying to imitate.

It's not only the Condescending it's absolutely embarrassing.

What it's what those kinds of things say to me is is that you're more racist than you're trying to put on

because you think that you have to carry a sound or draw or you have to hoop or you have to you know, Just

be you and love people and share the truth of the gospel.

Those kinds of things are problematic.

So again, I as I mentioned there's a there's a line By which we want to be excited when we see any people group

regardless of the color of their skin level of melanin in their skin.

We want to be excited when we see anyone come to a saving knowledge of Christ or our greater understanding of Bible truth.

But but we want to do so in a way that doesn't solely point to their ethnicity as the as the

goal of.

You know of the message so and of course just like everything else

That kind of nonsense is not only found amongst white folk.

My dear friend who is now in heaven.

Dr. Robert J. Cameron Who was a black orthodox Presbyterian pastor in

New Jersey and before that he was in the PCA.

And before that he was in the Reformed Episcopal Church, but he told me that he couldn't even count

the number of times That black folks would visit his church and then

afterwards.

When he was greeting them at the door as people were leaving how many times the black? couple

or a person would say.

You know, we agreed with everything you said, but you just don't preach black enough.

So we really doubt we're going to be returning.

So sorry about that.

Yeah, you see you see that the other way and at the end of the

day truth that

the Understanding of Bible truths sound theology

Does not does not can is not concerned with a level of melanin in someone's skin and so I

I remember when when someone introduced me to on theology, I

Didn't care whether the guy who I didn't know what the color of this was I had

no idea all I did was I read it and and and God's show based on

Scripture and That that's all that mattered to me.

And so I didn't care what he sounded like or then or did he preach like that?

You know have a thrall or or you know, or you know, I

didn't care about any of that all I cared about was God had illuminated my mind to his to

to the beauty and glory of Salvation and that it had nothing to do with me

the only thing I had to add to that was that was the sin that required the Sacrifice of his son.

And so when I understood that to the degree that I did through that book, I just It was

like a whole new Way for it was like it was like that a

cloudy sky had gotten bright and clear with the brightness of the Sun.

I mean that was how it was for me and and my my encouragement would be go share that truth

Irrespective of of ethnicity go share the beauty of Christ and make that central.

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Give us your first name at least city and state and country of residence and Don't we

Have to always remind ourselves if we want to Be ambassadors

for Christ in this very evil world that we have to remind ourselves that it is not only a

battlefield that we are on but it's also a mission field and that

Souls far more wicked than ones we are confronting have been brought to Christ by his

mercy.

Are you there?

Yeah.

Yeah now I can.

Good good.

Good. Good.

Well, there's a couple a couple things man as you kind of came out of announcements I

encourage

you folks

to the local church and then you've been such a friend not only to me to Darrell But to

so many I know to the G to g3 and the g3 family what a blessing you've been.

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Come with you in September man, and me too.

They're in Washington DC.

Yeah, but as far as the the question I asked.

When we Get when we find ourselves getting furious.

And we are filled and rightfully so with righteous indignation.

Don't we have to keep reminding ourselves that we're not only on a battlefield, but we're also on a mission field.

It doesn't happen, but we have to constantly remind ourselves.

That we may be facing in a confrontation somebody that we are viewing as

vile and satanic and they may indeed be but they also may be a person for whom

Christ died and I say it like that because I believe in limited atonement or definite atonement.

I don't believe Christ died for every single human being that ever lived, but we don't know who the elect

are.

Unless they have already become born again, and they are regenerate and they're bearing fruit of that.

But when we are facing and either an evil mob or an evil

individual Instead of being just stirred up with anger We have to remind

ourselves that this soul may be saved may be rescued from the pit of hell.

Yeah, I think about that just kind of separating those

ideas that where we are doing battle or if

you will.

At the end of the day winning that war only only lends itself To moralism

right people are acting better doing better.

Living living by the Ten Commandments, but but that only that only goes so far one They're never

able to fulfill the law.

We know that right if they were if we were able to fulfill the law Christ would have had to come but two

I have to remember and remind myself that Were it not for the grace of God

there go I.

One of the things that is helpful from a standpoint of understanding doctrines of grace you mentioned limited atonement

understanding understanding our total depravity understanding our you know our own

Wicked evilness right and it's the Puritans who do such a great job it.

If you ever get a opportunity for those who had a chance to read the Puritans their their Devotion

to the Lord they that they thought about sin and their

own sinfulness the prayers that they prayed.

As a result of rip to remind

us that apart from Christ.

That's that's me and so oftentimes when whether whether it was an abortion mill or whether it's a an

issue that I'm having a Pool of an interaction about

something sinful.

Maybe someone's embraced an area of sin in their lives.

I constantly remind myself that man.

That's me.

I remember when the when the whole happened I remember having

interview conversations where I told people that they were.

That the public narrative was such that if you were black you had to identify With

George Floyd or if you were a sympathizer to the cause.

You identified with George Floyd as a victim and and out of that victim hood.

There were some things that that that you know, those who didn't look like you needed to be responsible for.

No one would identify themselves with the police officer Derek Chauvin

and and so I Remember being on on radio broadcasts where I said, you know what?

I see myself in both men not as a victim per se.

But as someone who's someone someone has done something wrong to you.

So look someone has has wronged me and I've experienced that but I've also been the perpetrator of wrong, right?

I've been the guy who who hated my brother scripture tells us if we hate our brother.

We're as a murderer and so having that hatred in your heart I could see myself as an image

bearer of God in both of those men and their own sinful conditions.

Which is all the more reason why my appeal is not to man not to a group not to a race not to an

ethnicity.

But to a sovereign God who can who can ransom me who can redeem me who can save me from the muck and mire.

But once saved once cleansed once justified once made right with a true and living God.

I don't forget that it was not my goodness that got me there.

It was all him and none of me and so those kinds of things are important for us to remember as we engage in these kinds of conversations.

Amen.

We have Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania.

Who has said who asks have you ever had your life

threatened because of your stances against the justice warrior.

I'm sorry.

The social justice warrior movement critical race theory or anything under that umbrella.

Because of the fact that in the media you and Darrell are rare voices from the black

community.

Yeah, well, I appreciate so much for that.

I try not to talk much about the kinds of threats that we get the kinds of.

You know folks who say things about us and only because I recognize two things one that they're minor

compared to what others have dealt with those who maybe fought in and you know for civil rights or some other

other thing and What what they endured as a result of standing on truth that

they believe to hold dear.

Mine is mainly keyboard warriors right these guys who get on the internet and want to want to want to

engage us or or send us hateful emails or or Look through my

personal data and information and post that somewhere in an effort to embarrass me in some Kind of way shape or

form so those kinds of things do happen.

They happen often but again Darrell and and I have been party to those kinds of things for such a long time

long before social justice was an issue.

That we just those kinds of things don't really bother us and I don't I don't get concerned.

The thing that I'm concerned with is Am I standing on the truth of the word?

Am I am I rightly defied?

Scripture.

Am I saying things in a way that would honor God as an ambassador of the cross?

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We have CJ from Lindenhurst Long Island, New York.

Who says what do you think.

The attraction to critical race theory and all of the heresies? affiliated

with it are.

To reformed people and churches.

That is utterly amazing to me and I can't figure it out.

Yeah, I Appreciate the question and and it is something I mean while I'm in no way

Able to examine the heart of every person and understand their motivation in a general sense.

You think about the issue of justice?

I think I think one of the things that that progressives and leftists are so good at.

Is that they're able to capture language and then leverage it to to push forward a

cause.

Black lives matter.

Well it on its face those words put together in that framework Seem innocuous.

Yeah, sure black lives matter.

It isn't until you begin to peel back the layers of what that means of the Marxist Origins

of that of the of the desire of the or of the folks who put together the movement to that their

desire to Really destroy the nuclear family that that you begin to feel the ideology is

flawed and here's why but they've leveraged Language in such a way that it's difficult to say well I don't I don't agree

with that if you don't you've got to have a backbone and have an explanation, right?

Yeah, because black lives matter in so much as or only in regard to the fact that all of us as human beings

as image bearers of God matter.

Critical race theory.

Social justice who's not for justice.

Everyone wants to be for justice.

And so it feels good.

It feels right there's a sense of self -righteousness that that aligns itself back by a by a

Historic narrative of oppression and racism and those kinds of the old the history can't be

denied, right?

So it's with that that they leverage based upon again.

We don't even have time to explain that the experiment of education in

our country that has lent itself to these leftist ideas, but That those kinds of things

that the proper language the fact that no one should you know, everyone for justice you put the idea of

Social justice attached to it.

Then the thought is yeah, I'd be for that why not the pragmatic approach that we've taken in every

area of Church of worship and the like that's problematic.

The sense of mentalism that has invaded our church system.

Darrell and I talked at great length about all of those pieces of the puzzle lend themselves

to seeing even solidly reformed people adopt the Political

narrative right that's out there that blacks are somehow It's the highest form of white

supremacy that plaque the idea that blacks are so a victim of a system.

I want to I want to shake those who believe that are hold of that.

Especially in reform circles and say well, don't they believe in a God who's able to overcome don't they believe me?

What where where do we come up with the idea that the only one that can save them is our sensitive white people?

How does that come to be the case?

Right?

Yeah, remember the white man's burden.

Right, right, so.

So but going back to Specifically what you know, I'm reformed and I don't know if it's

because I'm Remaining too isolated and the reformed orbit, but

nearly all of the non secular Activists

in the limelight who are pushing a social justice and critical race theory

agenda are reformed or at least by profession and You know, there may be many many

Arminians also involved in it, but it is strange because the the major tenets

of the reformed faith would seem to Militate against these things these these unique

Heretical concepts of critical race theory in the socialist justice warrior movement.

Yeah, well, you know, I I go back to something that that that I've heard said many times

men like John MacArthur who in his critique of the young restless and reformed

movement said that they were only Reformed insofar as they had adopted a Calvinistic idea about

theology.

The reform really had not taken root to the degree that that they were truly reformed in every

aspect of Theology right of theology property.

They take bits and pieces and and put some things together.

I'd argue that a lot of folks get kind of jumped on a bandwagon that was moving at the time and

and now this this idea around social justice is just the next bandwagon to jump on

that they see Advantage in and they've moved on to that that that's kind of how I see

these kinds of things when you go back and critique.

Some some some of those folks who are who are you know, loud proponents Advocating

for social justice today that there was there were some cracks in the arm that we could go back and and take a closer look At that

would give us some telltale signs of what of what was you know, what was to come?

You know, I know I know you're not a mind reader, but I can only wonder how much of this is.

Especially when you're considering reformed individuals and churches buying into this concept.

It's Reformed entities borrowing from the

Arminian concept of luring people into

their numbers and appeasing the crowds around

them by Really imitating Those

things of the world that at least right now the world seems to delight in.

And that isn't that is a non reformed Missiology it's a non

reformed understanding of how God saves sinners to appeal to

the desires and likes and tastes and lusts of

the lost Society around us in order to win them to Christ.

That's not how the Bible explains how these things happen.

That's why throughout the centuries of Christianity. There have always been martyrs.

I.

Totally, I totally I think there's another thing at work as well, though.

It really it really appeals the idea that that perhaps you Let

me say this looks perhaps someone who holds to the idea of CRT, especially if they're white right that

that they that they're the ones who are enlightened that they're the ones who who have

this knowledge about History and about culture and society and and how how we need to view

people right but particularly black people In this current cultural environment that we find

ourselves in so there's a sense of pride about that there's a there's this kind of this this intellectualism

about knowing that story that narrative that begins to be a part of adopting

this particular worldview and then add to it the sense of Self -righteousness, this is no different

than what we would see in Scripture from the Pharisees the idea that you know, what we Christ, you know, they

wouldn't say it this way that Christ was Christ the work of Christ was insufficient.

They no one would say that but at the end of the day They're treating issues of race and ethnicity in

that same light when they believe that that people need to be involved in Antiracism for the rest

of their lives those kinds of things are our works based righteousness.

And they're arbitrary and and never -ending and all of it just to just to feel better about who

you are about about about what you know and about about you know being.

Being benevolent to what you've achieved.

We have a listener Joseph and South Central, Pennsylvania.

Who wants to know are there any new projects that you and Daryl are involved in or

perhaps even?

Josh Bice.

That you have not yet announced it.

That you have not yet announced today.

Oh.

Wow, yeah, there are tons of them.

It's a question.

Thanks so much for asking and for the opportunity to share that right now.

In fact, I was just just connected with Josh we were working with the team.

We're we're trying to put the finishing touches on a studio.

They're on the campus where they're at g3 we'll have a Video recording studio

where we'll be able to produce all kinds of video teaching tools and

resources.

There's gonna be a lot of stuff.

The exciting thing for Daryl and me is again with our that studio

will be co -branded.

Meaning it will be a g3 studio.

But we'll also be a just thinking studio and we are intending to take of what's what's been

incredibly successful.

By way of an audio podcast.

We're about to transform into a video format.

For those who would who would appreciate seeing Daryl and I interact.

On a regular basis to see that interaction live.

So they'll get a chance to witness that and we've got a number of different things in the works with regard to that.

So that's probably one of the biggest projects that we have going on right now.

Daryl and I are working on our second book that will be published Under founders

press and we're excited about that.

Just thinking about ethnicity book.

Yeah, that book that book is in the works and we're we're quickly and fast and fiercely trying to

put that together.

I don't have a date for that drop yet.

But just be on the lookout for announcements that they as they come in will be we pushing that forward as well.

So we've got a few things in the works.

Well, since you mentioned founders tomorrow, my guest for the first hour is Tom Askell.

Oh, that's great.

The president of founders ministries and we're going to be discussing his candidacy For president of the Southern Baptist

Convention something that's very controversial.

It seems to have divided reformed Christians on whether someone should even remain within

Southern Baptist Convention and those who choose to remain as a light for truth so it's

it's one of those issues where since we are on earth and None of us have

all truth.

None of us are inerrant.

We're always going to be bumping heads or Disagreeing with our

brethren over things as long as we're on this earth.

But it will be.

I'm looking forward to the interview.

I've known Tom for many years many decades and Looking forward to having him on again.

Well, Tom Tom is it.

Tom is a dear dear brother.

We absolutely love him.

It's been a joy to work with him on on founders with founders press and as just a brother in

Christ a Cobelligerent for the cause and sake of Christ and while while the church that I'm at at

praise bill.

We're no longer a part of of the Southern Baptist Convention.

We do wish Tom all the best.

And what he's doing.

Excited to see his candidacy and hopeful about what what will take place in the days to come.

Let's see.

By the way. I just want to make sure that all of our more recent Questioners know that you have

won also a free copy of why are you afraid by Darrell Harrison and Virgil Walker?

We have a question from Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County and

The question is Do you think that the tearing down of monuments is?

An enormous deal that we as Christians should be extremely concerned about

or is it one of those things?

That is of far less importance that is going on in this battle for truth in our

nation.

Yeah.

So appreciate the question.

The tearing down of monuments is illegal.

We can we can start there and so those age in that kind of behavior and

breadth and depth of the law the reality is.

Unfortunately, the current state of jurisprudence.

Of even law enforcement there.

They're more fearful to put anyone and you know behind bars or charge anyone with with that kind of

Vandalism with regards of believers in Christ.

I think we we stand for truth.

We say what we need to say about about the idea that.

That that lawlessness scripture says lawlessness is Sin, and so when we know that

and see that we call what we see as it is.

And and challenge those who are engaged in that behavior to repent to repent.

Absolutely.

You know and those actions are The vast majority of time in fact probably

every time they're occurring.

They are Really one of the the key sins

involved in what they're doing.

In addition to what you just mentioned they're breaking the law by Defiling private

property or government property, but they're also Most of the time it's not all the time

involved in heinous slander Against the individual who's being

honored by the monument.

Right, they're distorting the the sins involved in that individual that

are publicly known anyway, and sometimes imputing sins to them that they didn't even commit at all and

You could only imagine If we were to go in the graveyards where some of these

people who are destroying monuments Where their their parents their grandparents

or other loved ones are buried.

Can you imagine if we were to go in those graveyards and because we know about some sins of their family members?

We're going to take a sledgehammer To the tombstones the gravestones of these people.

I mean, there's there's no difference at all.

No, not not at all.

No, I mean, it's a backwards look.

I mean, it's as if folks believe that That there's that that someone is without

sin.

I keep in my mind.

I keep thinking of you know The story where Christ, you know makes the woman found in adultery caught in

adultery and again I know from a biblical standpoint there's questions about you know about the nature of the story

where it came from and all that from a and you need to have James White come on and talk to you about the

about that with regard to with regard to there, you know the variations of text

sexual variance.

The Principle is still there the idea that those who without the first that matter without

sin are able at their end to cast The first stones that those those kinds of things

We need to think about with it goes back to our conversation earlier about total depravity if you understand that your

own sinfulness You're you're not quick to make judgments about the sins

of others.

And when we have that those kinds of lines of demarcation that clarity of thought going

and desecrating a Monument for the purpose of what it accomplishes what at the end of

the day all it exposes is your own sinfulness.

Your own lawlessness and your own need for repentance.

That's really what it exposes at the end of the day.

Yeah.

These people have to really look at their own family tree because it is doubtful that most of

their parents or grandparents and especially their great -great -grandparents would have ever

shared their views of race and gender and therefore Would they

want their? own relatives if they were alive to be

terrorized and tormented and perhaps even physically harmed.

Maybe some of them would but It's a lot of this is just enough

nothing more than self -righteousness and a absolutely delusion of Self -importance and

thinking thinking more highly of oneself than one ought.

But we have to go to our final break it's gonna be a lot more brief than the other breaks.

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We're discussing the new lows of leftist protesters viewed through biblical lenses.

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We have an anonymous listener.

Who says that I am in the middle of disputes with people on both sides of the spectrum?

Who are my brothers in Christ who actually agree with me theologically?

There are those on one side of me that are almost acting as if we should be like the

Amish and retreat from all political involvement and interaction.

And we have those on the other side who seem to make Politics too much a part of

the gospel.

I was wondering where you and Darrell are on this equation.

And I know that there are many facets on the spectrum involving the church and politics,

but I'm just curious How you would counsel me to behave in the midst of being on

two battlefields.

Great question.

Thanks so much for the question anonymous.

I would I would encourage you.

There's a episode that we did Called the doctrine of elections and the doctrine of elections.

It's kind of a play on the idea of the doctrines of grace.

But we dealt with election cycles and that elections for the most part are all about

world.

What happens in the voting booth is really The

byproduct and so while during you'll be happy to know

given your situation that during our I think it's two and a half hour episode.

We didn't bring up a political party nor a politician.

All of it was about biblical worldview and where we should stand.

I think there are two ditches that people can fall into and The Questioner

landed on those one is the idea that that government is the Savior, right?

So that we need that we have a responsibility to save America.

We have a responsibility to see others saved right and that and that the only way

for that to take place is through some form of government intervention to the point that we vote every four

years and and are excited if our candidate wins and Devastated if our candidate loses the reality is

God is still on the throne regardless of the candidate that is actually in office and we have To be mindful of that.

The other side of the ditch that one can fall into is the idea that we duck our head in the sand.

We absolutely do nothing.

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We attend church and quietly maintain a very quiet existence.

And so I don't think we do that either.

I think there's a there's in a in a in a Democratic Republic like the one we have

we have a responsibility To be engaged in the areas of politics that that

that that call for our engagement.

Understand what's happening in the world around us be engaged in the bills that are having met now

with regard to the issue of abortion.

It's going to come to your front doorstep rather than a federal issue.

What if if Roe v. Wade is actually struck down?

This will be a this will be a backyard issue.

This will now be an issue that goes to the states and you'll need to advocate for life, right?

Because biblically speaking that's what we indeed are about and for so I think there's a balance that can

be struck I don't know the particulars about the about the friends and where they're siding on those two issues.

I do think there are some ditches.

I think the ditch where you're where people are seeing government as the as the solution.

Just need to be informed by the Bible by a biblical worldview bringing bringing the gospel into conflict

with culture in those areas where.

Where there's where there's opportunities, so.

Well, Darrell, I'd like you to have several minutes to really summarize What you most want to have etched in

the hearts and minds of our listeners today before we go off the air.

Oh.

Brother as he's writing the church at Corinth.

So that there's this one thing of greatest importance.

And that is the life the death the burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

For the forgiveness of sins that God came in the form of a human being.

That that he lived a perfect life died a death he did not

deserve as a result of sin that was in the world and he Sacrificed

his life as a ransom for hours.

That if we would but repent of our sin and place our full faith in Jesus Christ We would indeed experience

and have eternal life when we what we actually Deserve is separation from God and hell

forever for our sins against the Holy God.

But in his kindness and his goodness and his mercy he sends his son as a sacrifice.

He who again lives that perfect life dies.

The death that we rightly deserve as Prisoners right as enemies

of God.

That we would we would but repent of our sin place our faith in him.

We would indeed have eternal life.

My hope would be anyone who had the opportunity to listen today if they have not already Made a

decision to follow Christ that given the gift that is that is afforded you even in this

moment.

Today is the day of salvation.

That you would repent place your full faith in Jesus Christ.

Amen and I have seen you and Darrell Speak at

several churches outside of the g3 conferences.

How available are you either both together or individually to be invited to a church to a

school?

The organization to speak.

Yeah, we're open to that always and we love the opportunity to come and really unpack

Issues around social justice and CRT, but also just remember we we are expositors and theologians.

And so we love just cracking open scripture and diving into the truth of the Word of God as well.

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Thank you so much Virgil Walker for doing such an extraordinary job today as I knew you would.

I want to thank everybody.

Thanks for having me and I want to thank everybody for listening and especially those who took the time to write questions.

I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior

than you are a sinner.

Yes.