May 17, 2021 Show with Tommy Nelson on “The Disunity of Wokeness vs. the Uniting Power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ”

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And I'm really excited about heading down to Texas. Actually, for the first time in my life, I've been on layover at the airport in Texas, but I've never spent a day or more in Texas. And I'm looking forward to my first trip to Denton, Texas, specifically this June for the Wokeness and the Gospel Conference.

I will be manning an exhibitor's booth there, God willing. And in order to promote this very vital conference, we have been interviewing a number of the speakers who are going to be featured at this conference.

And we have one of them today on the program for the very first time, Tommy Nelson. And Tommy is an author of a number of books and resources, including The Story of God, A Life Well Lived, The Book of Romance, and Walking on Water.

He's a national conference speaker and senior pastor of Denton Bible Church of Denton, Texas. Today, we are going to be specifically addressing the theme, The Disunity of Wokeness versus the Uniting Power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Awning Trip and Zion Radio, Pastor Tommy Nelson.

Well, thank you, Chris. You know, one of my heroes when I was a boy, I read his biography 12 times about his growing up.

Amen.

And somebody in this town has got to erect a monument to Jim Thorpe.

Really?

There is no that I'm aware of. If it exists somewhere, I have not yet seen it. I've been living here since 2014.

And he was voted the greatest athlete of the Habor.

Yes.

And has anybody officially restored, obviously post-mortem, restored his medals?

I am told that they have to his daughter in Oklahoma.

Oh, great.

Praise God for that. Quite a hero indeed. And I am surprised that there isn't more of a known presence of his having lived here and so forth. But tell us more before we go into our very important topic.

Tell us more about Denton Bible Church of Denton, Texas.

Denton Bible Church was the church nobody wanted.

I'm the congregation member. Nobody wanted.

I was the quarterback. I played quarterback at North Texas. My junior, my roommate, I'm one that keeps a 10. Couldn't find him. He had already came and died in 1977.

Praise God. And what would be the theological makeup in summary of that church?

We are.

Well, at least one of them had your Calvinistic theology, that S. Lewis Johnson.

Yes, he did.

What a great man of God. I had the privilege of having lunch with him at a Bible conference once.

Well, if anybody wants to know more about Denton Bible Church in Denton, Texas,.

Go to dentonbible .org, D-E-N-T-O-N, Bible .org. And hopefully I'll remember to repeat that at the end of the program as well. And also we have a tradition here on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio where whenever we have a first-time guest, we have that guest give a summary of their salvation testimony.

What kind of religious atmosphere, if any, they were raised in and what kind of providential occurrences our sovereign Lord raised up in the individual's life that drew him to himself and saved him or her.

And I would love to hear your story.

I came to North Texas, Pennsylvania.

You mean Joe Green.

And so I came there in 69. They found out, Chris, I wasn't the moral kid that I was.

Oh, yeah.

And I read that. So many are in that paragraph. 72. And I thought I'd discovered something altogether new to Western man. I didn't know anybody knew this, but me. I found out. So I never really made a plan.

That I'm not familiar with.

I began learning.

Well, praise God for that wonderful testimony of God's mercy and grace upon your life. And as I already announced at the very beginning of the show, you are hosting at Denton Bible Church of Denton, Texas.

The Wokeness and the Gospel Conference. Obviously, this is a theme that you believe has great urgency to it, since you are hosting this conference and also speaking at it as well.

It is the most sinister ideology.

Wow, that's saying a lot in the 21st century.

The guy that said the same thing was a guy named John MacArthur.

Yeah.

And I would agree with him. I have never seen. It's more sinister.

Why don't you tell us how you really think about this?

Communism, you see it coming. You see communism coming. You see Nazism.

Yeah, and one of the things that makes it doubly disturbing is that men of God that are theologically on the same page as you and I are on the most important things, or at least they were for many years.

In fact, I have interviewed quite a number of men on this program as little as nine years ago who would never have back then publicly uttered the grotesque heresies of the Wokeness movement, who are now among the leaders of it.

And I cannot figure that out as best I can. I cannot. It has given us a means to learning that if you don't like salvation by heterosexual males.

Yeah, the woke movement reminds me of the insanity and the hypocrisy of an occurrence that happened a number of years ago prior to the current pope. Right now, for some reason, that pope's name draws a blank in my mind, other than he was Cardinal Ratzinger before he became the pope.

Benedict, Pope Benedict.

Yeah.

He, in some kind of public statement, accused Islam of being guilty of violence. And how did the militant Muslims in Rome react? They murdered nuns in protest to that statement. So, I mean, that is what the woke movement reminds me of, because they claim to be all about an opposition to racism, and yet they are vehemently racist.

Yeah, you just revoked social justice autocratically being imposed. I didn't know that it would do...

Yeah, by the way, I don't know if you were aware of this. I think we should alert the listening public who starts to explore Denton Bible Church, their website and so forth, so that they can get more information and perhaps visit your church, perhaps attend the Wokeness in the Gospel conference.

I don't know if you're even aware of this, because I forgot to mention it before the show, but there are some charlatans out there that slanderously invented a Twitter account for Denton Bible Church that is obviously intended to be a white racist, a white supremacist account.

You're aware of that?

No, no.

Amen.

And really, the only thing you can do, Chris, you have to circle up your church and say, you know, we're not commanded to commandeer the world and their belief system. We're commanded to win people out of it and influence it, but it ain't going to come in here.

We're not going to have it in here. Think of the Edomites, the...

You wanted to today, under the umbrella of Wokeness, because there are a lot of facets to this heretical movement, you wanted to discuss specifically the disunity of Wokeness versus the uniting power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is the only way sinners can truly have unity amongst those on this planet that differ on comparatively minor and not even at all important reasons, like the content of melanin in your skin.

But things like that do divide sinners on this planet, and the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only thing that can truly bring about unity. But as far as unity, is the woke movement, as far as you are aware of it, and the social justice warrior movement, and all of that stuff, the buzz phrases that come along with that, is unity even really a part of their rhetoric?

No, it is not. It doesn't even claim to. Marx has said, well, we don't need to evolve. We just need to get rid of them.

Amen.

And we have to go to our first break right now. If anybody would like to send in a question to Pastor Tommy Nelson, our email address is ChrisArnzen at gmail .com, C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com.

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Let's say you are in a church that has been overtaken by the woke movement, and you're not ready to identify yourself publicly as someone in opposition to that, or you're a pastor even, and you're at odds with your fellow elders or your denomination over this issue.

Whatever the case is that would compel you to remain anonymous, please feel free to do so. But if you are just asking a general question about wokeness and the disunity it brings, and about the uniting power of the gospel of Jesus Christ, if you're just asking general questions, please give us your first name, city and state, and country of residence.

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This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpen's Iron Radio. If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the full program is Tommy Nelson, pastor of Denton Bible Church in Denton, Texas. We are discussing the disunity of wokeness versus the uniting power of the gospel of Jesus Christ and we're also promoting the Wokeness and the Gospel Conference that I will be attending and where I will be manning an Iron Sharpen's Iron Radio exhibitor's booth.

The conference is June 11th and 12th and for more details go to Wokenessandgospel .org. Wokenessandgospel .org. We hope to see you there at the Wokeness and the Gospel Conference. Before the break we were talking about how wokeness brings disunity rather than unity.

It seems to me that many of the spokespersons for this movement who happen to be white, they seem to be in their rhetoric under the impression that this is somehow bringing them greater unity with the black community and with others that this movement claims to represent.

I mean even when you look and listen to the rhetoric of President Joe Biden, not only when he was running for president but even after he was elected, he was stressing how he had as his intention the bringing about of unity in this country between people who disagree and he also at the same time appears to be right on board the wokeness train promoting and celebrating this nonsense, this heresy.

But these people are really either very stupid and not listening to the rhetoric itself or they are just going along with the program because they think it either somehow builds up their credibility in the minds of the audience they want to impress or perhaps will help secure them financially in whatever career they are in.

Am I making sense here?

Yes, it's good until you start looking at the will once you get it.

It seems that those in the wokeness movement have taken their cue not from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. They've taken it from the Nation of Islam it seems.

Yes, Martin Luther King's idea was let justice flow happen now after it. It's just like the 60s were attractive to life without Jesus. It's unity without Jesus just like the French Revolution, Russian Revolution.

Yeah, it's interesting that during the 60s when the Nation of Islam was rising to prominence taking as their battle cry that they are going to achieve their intended goals by any means necessary and they were opposed to Martin Luther King's view of man being judged by the content of his character not by the color of his skin and that seems to be viewed as racist today by the woke movement.

But it's interesting and this may be news to some of our listeners and of course some may be already aware of this. But the Nation of Islam even though it was and is a black supremacist group and a group really founded on hatred and bigotry ironically they had allies with the American Nazi Party and the Elisha Muhammad when he had at least two I believe of his rallies in Madison Square Garden.

They invited none other than George Lincoln Rockwell to be one of their keynote speakers. This man who hated black people George Lincoln Rockwell the founder of the American Nazi Party but they saw in him an ally that even though he was on the opposite end of the hatred ladder he hated blacks and the blacks in this group hated whites they still viewed him as a powerful ally because he was a segregationist and so are they.

And it seems that this insanity of thinking that this is somehow an improvement to the love promoted in the scriptures where we love people regardless of what color skin they are and what financial status they are in and what position of leadership or servitude they are in.

There seems to be a strong push towards segregation where even in some professedly Calvinistic churches that were previously conservative and still may be on certain issues they are calling for blacks having their own Lord's Supper celebrations and times for blacks to get together to do their black thing without the problem of having whitey in the midst of them.

Isn't this just sheer insanity?

Yes, as one man a nation of the law underneath Christ you see all these alien guys rejected and the judgment of the tribulation comes from the Bible. But the medicine...

Hey man, we have a listener who happens to be a dear friend of mine and I'm sure must be at the very least an acquaintance of yours since he lives in Denton, Texas. My dear friend Pastor Mac Tomlinson of Providence Chapel in Denton, Texas who's been a guest on this program many times.

Pastor Mac says, as a pastor what is the single most important thing to say to any of our flock regarding the fallacy of the woke movement and what is most important for them to know where they will not be deceived by this false movement?

The biggest thing... Amen. And he walked through a nation by faith.

Yeah, this movement you wonder how long it could possibly survive because it is by nature cannibalistic.

Yes.

People can never keep up with the ever-changing rules. And of course, I think it was Votie Baucom who said, he who controls the dictionary wins the war. And they're constantly rewriting their own dictionary even.

Not only the real dictionary, they're rewriting their own dictionary. It seems that you can never catch up with what they are demanding of you as far as not only how you think and behave, but also how you define things and refer to things in either official public statements or casual conversations.

I've never understood how it got into the... How colleges picked it up. It got in the...

Yeah.

Instantly.

Yeah.

By the way, thank you so much, Pastor Mac Tomlinson. And I hope to get to see you at some point. I know you're going to be away, unfortunately, when I'm in Denton, Texas at the conference. But I hope that I see you soon.

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If you just buy this ideology, the world's gonna be made right. No, it's not. Only Jesus Christ makes the world right.

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Like Satan in the Garden, woke hermeneutics undermines the very authority of the word of God. I don't say that lightly. Also hear from Tommy Nelson, Charles Stolfus and Rodney Brown confronting the lies being impressed upon the culture today, threatening even to divide the church and answering with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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