Everything you need to know about Redeemed Zoomer: Richard Akerman DMW#244

With tens of millions of views on YouTube. Everyone knows who redeemed zoomer is but do they really know who redeemed zoomer is. Stick around. Exploring theology doctrine and all of the fascinating subjects in between.

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Hello, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of dead men walking podcast. I'm your host Greg Moore as always you can find out more about us at DMW podcast comm check out the merch site support the Show find us on socials everywhere at dead men walking podcast and of course on Twitter X at real DMW podcast.

Thanks for listening. Thanks for telling a friend. Thanks for helping the show grow. We appreciate it. Just a Another day in paradise here. It's it's fun. You know, I got a busy week. We did three interviews this week.

We're stacking a few of them just because I'm going to be in Fort Worth, Texas at the end of the month here in just a couple weeks or maybe Probably about a week by the time you hear this I get ready for the fight-laugh-feast conference prodigal America running media road down there.

You got a podcast booth set up. We're gonna be doing some live podcasting some interviews bringing you guys some great content from that conference but I just sat down with Richard Ackerman. Probably better known as the redeemed zoomer over on YouTube you look at his YouTube channel I mean one of his videos has like 12 million views, you know a couple million for some other ones.

I mean the guy really has created this kind of following and people checking into his YouTube channel to see he thinks and he's a young guy and Fairly new Christian. We we talked and I think he Gave his heart to the Lord was saved at 14.

He's 21 now and he's in college and he's doing a lot of theological stuff. And you know his videos like denominational videos like where all the denominations came from and he's done some debates now with latent flowers on Predestination and things like that.

So a young guy that's really have been has been taking on Kind of some big names and in some big debates and big subjects and it was cool. So what we did is I told him hey, I want you to come on give a little bit of your origin story backstory.

You know where you came from parents where he grew up your testimony how you got saved all that kind of stuff but then also Wanted to ask him some fun personal questions just to get to know him more. Because when you go through his YouTube channel, he's not talking about himself that much which is good.

But we don't really know the personality of Redeemed zoomer of you know, kind of not only where he came from and kind of his journey. But where he's going and then we took kind of the fresh 10 segment idea and I expanded it to 25 questions.

So gave him some some fun ones. I gave him some serious ones what he thought about comedy. Maybe some of his favorite bands you know historical figures outside of the Bible that he reads or looks up to stuff like that just so we can kind of get an idea of Who he is.

I think it was a fun episode. He's a smart guy. He's quick. I don't agree with Everything that he believes we didn't really get into that too much. It was more of wanting to talk to him about who he was maybe someday in the future.

We'll do something together where he's on one side of an issue. I'm on the other side. I wouldn't be opposed to that but this one was more focused on just understanding who he was and I've always felt that you can give me all the theological things and doctrinal things and know and in this council and this confession and I can get a kind of a good idea of What you believe theologically?

But I don't know, you know your experience how you grew up how you came to those conclusions. Those tell a bigger story for me and that's one of the things why I like to do this podcast and even like to do.

These kind of things, you know, we did this with James White where we had a camping episode. Just kind of talked about his experiences. We did this with Doug Wilson. You can go check those episodes out on the YouTube channel or at dmw podcast Dot-com and so now we did it with redeemed zoomer.

Sometimes these guys when they become very big and they I have a lot of followers a lot of views and they're just talking about. One thing people want to know well Who's the actual person behind all these debates and you know posts and thoughts and can you know?

Defending confessions and things like that. So that's what we did and it was really good. It went a little longer than I thought I thought we could get it in about 30 minutes. But I think we ended up at about a 50 minute episode of his interview.

But I think the whole thing was was really good. We had some jokes in there. We had some fun. We had a couple points of disagreement but at the very end We got we came out in. In the end more about Richard Ackerman redeemed zoomer and who he was and it was a fun episode and he was gracious.

So guys stick around it's coming up right now. You're gonna hear redeem zoomer next. Here we go. Do people call you Richard or redeem zoomer when you're out and about like when you go to conferences or they're like, hey Richard Ackerman.

Are they like a redeem zoomer? Which one do you get more? Oh, yeah.

They call me Richard once they know me. Like sometimes like recently. Last week I went to a conference for the Reconquista movement and lots of young PC USA members came and joined me. They called me zoomer for the first day.

Then they called me Richard but older folks always just call me Richard. They don't they don't really know them zoomer or whatever, right?

Okay, so this is what we want to do for this episode for you guys listening. We have Richard here redeemed zoomer on YouTube millions and millions of views over all of his videos. We always seem debating.

We always seem talking theology. I actually found a couple of your denominational videos very Informative and interesting and well done for someone who just wants a 10 or 12 minute intro into like where did all these denominations come?

From that was something I was exploring years and years ago in my 20s. And it would have been helpful to have something like that available. But all kinds of cool stuff. I think I saw something you did with So theology 101.

I've had him on the podcast, what's his name? Provisional ism late flowers late flowers. Thank you. Geez. Geez. I was just at a conference a few months when.

Yeah, he's a really nice guy.

It was nice because we got him riding my dead men walking ebike at a conference and he was yelling dead men walking. So all the Calvinists got to say look at that Leighton flowers was on a dead man walking bike.

But what we want to do here is I want to talk a little bit. I want to know about you and kind of your your origin story. Give me a little bit of how you grew up. Maybe get into test them your testimony a little bit and then maybe your theological journey.

And then we're gonna get into some fun questions after that. So take it away.

Sounds great. So I did not really grow up Christian. I grew up in New York, which is a very secular and progressive environment. So I grew up just being a secular progressive. I wasn't exactly atheist.

I had some idea of a god who could help me pass my math tests, but that was it. So I was also very progressive and I just hated conservative Christians. I thought they were the ones holding society back.

And I sort of had a Damascus Road moment when I went to a summer camp like I'm classical musician so I went to a music themed summer camp in the Midwest and it was run by a Christian viola professor at Oberlin and most of the kids there were Christian and I just saw that what I had been told by the mainstream media and like the Daily Show about red state conservative Christians could not be further from the truth and Seeing the love of Christ that they showed me and each other and just seeing the beauty of Christianity in that place you know, we would sing hymns in a beautiful stained-glass chapel every day and we would do community service every week and Everyone there just had so much more life in their eyes than the people I grew up with.

So that moved me to convert to Christianity. I remember talking to my roommate there that one night and just suddenly all the dots connected for me and I was more excited than I've ever been. I was like, okay.

Finally this this Christianity stuff makes sense to me now and I want to be a Christian. So the next day I went to the church for the first time I went to church. I mean, I went to church willingly for the first time.

Okay? My parents sort of Slightly before me came to Christianity on their own. So I had been taken to church, but not willingly. I didn't like it. Because the pastor said I had to you know, forgive my enemies and love my enemies.

I barely even loved my friends. I just used them. So That was that was the first time I went willingly and because the camp director was PC USA I went to a PC USA church. It was great. I mean there wasn't anyone there except us under 60, but it was great.

And.

Because of that when I got home, I decided to attend a local PC USA Church. So that's how I convert to Christianity.

Yeah, so growing so growing up you mentioned it. Were you in and out of church. Were you in church every week and just not liking it? Like how did you. Where were you at? Like religiously or denominationally or spiritually like growing up as a young kid up until your teens or 20s.

In and out of church, so my my mom jokes that she was raised lapsed Catholic. She was raised by Catholic parents who didn't really care about it. She was seeking answers, but the Catholic Church when she was growing up.

Everyone was just so lazy there the parents the priests everyone they didn't give her any answers. So by the time I was born she was in this like new age hippie group. Not many people know about it's very obscure.

It's called the Christian community of Rudolph Steiner. That's what I was baptized in as a baby. I didn't know that it was a heretical non-trinitarian sect. But I don't really I have only the vaguest memories of it because we left it very soon after I was born.

Now my dad grew up Jewish very Jewish went to synagogue every week had sort of been Disaffected with Judaism and religion by the time I was born and we had these you know Christian neighbors these very conservative evangelical Christian neighbors.

They were sort of like the black sheep of the neighborhood because everyone else is very progressive but also everyone loved them because they would host, you know, the most welcoming block parties and They were students of my dad who was a piano teacher and they invited him to church they were going to a PCA church one of Tim Keller's church plants and that's where my dad heard the gospel for the first time and He believed and then was baptized as an adult.

Like 2012 I believe but then just due to various things, you know, my mom never really being satisfied with it. We just stopped going to church for a while. And then we didn't start we didn't start going until I had my conversion experience my born-again moment to Christianity.

Sure.

And so ever since then my dad and I have been Presbyterian and my mom eventually found her way back to the Roman Catholic Church. And that's where she is today.

Okay, so so dad is goes from Judaism to Presbyterianism. Your mom's back into Catholicism. Well, how old are you at this?

Conversion at this band camp. This was not wasn't banned. It was just like orchestra like viola cello. Okay, so 14 now. I'm 21. I've been Christian for seven years and.

I I know I.

14 is a difficult age to say. You really had any beliefs. When I was 14 I called myself a socialist not because I read any socialist literature because I liked the Soviet anthem. But even so based on what I was taught in public school because I didn't go to public school for 13 years I was taught that white Christian men are the source of all the world's problems.

And I believed it. I mean these days like kids nowadays like young men are hearing that and rejecting it as BS. I didn't reject it as because back then even like the guys in class believed like yeah, man straight white man.

They're behind all the world's problems.

Yeah, you know what's crazy is when you say like back then I kind of chuckle. I'm 43 years old so I'm twice your age and I've noticed that Generationally things can move much much swifter than they did in the past and something that took maybe 10 or 20 years.

To work through generation I've seen from millennial to Gen Z to Gen Alpha. You can have a shift in ideas and theological thought within a few years a half a decade even and it's very interesting to me.

Because you know a lot of boomers a lot of Gen X even a lot of Millennials. They they kind of go. Oh my gosh, Lord. When are you bringing justice and how can we turn this ship and write this ship of what's going on and in?

Churches in the secular realm and I'm kind of encouraged because I've seen Generational shifts now in just a few years and you just kind of made that point. I mean you're talking seven years ago. You're talking about that back then.

I mean things are moving so quickly. I think it can be a positive sometimes that God can move on the hearts of a generation. Instantaneously, and we can see real change. So You're at the camp you go to a PCA Church.

You're kind of unchurched. PC USA. Yep, and I mean, do you dive right in. I mean you're well educated you're intelligent. You know how to hold your own and theological discussions. Have you always been that kind of guy that just like really dives into a subject and want to learn about it?

Or was that something that? The Lord kind of turned your heart from stone to flesh and then you were just super excited about it.

Like what was that journey like ever since I converted? I've always had an interest in theology. But the first like 18 months I was trying to figure it out all by myself. Like I didn't actually read the Bible.

I just tried to Philosophize the big questions about God and evil and all these things. So my theology was garbage. It was a weird mix of semi Pelagian ism. And I still retained a lot of liberalism because I went overnight from not Christian to Christian, but I didn't go from not Not Christian to conservative.

I was still a liberal for like a long time after conversion. So I still retained a lot of ideas like supporting gay marriage supporting women's ordination. Supporting the progressive stance on most points and even to this day.

I wouldn't say I am like 100 right-wing or Republican or conservative whatever you want to call it, but I think I am I'm definitely not on the left either. Right, so it was it was a long process though.

So what really got me to study reformed theology specifically was when I started having doubts about my faith the first year. It was just fun being a Christian, but then I started to face serious intellectual challenges.

Especially because my good PC USA pastor retired and was replaced by a series of liberal women pastors who their whole theology was just God is love and nothing else and That lack of intellectual rigor really caused me to question my faith and It was in my period of questioning that I actually started pursuing answers from good sources.

Like the Bible and then when I first learned what Presbyterians actually believe. When I first learned what Calvinism was I was like, what the heck is that and I hated it, but then it's a funny story.

So even though my church had a liberal pastor at the time just like an interim pastor I still had a mentor for confirmation and he was really solid. He's this Really smart, you know theology scholar. He's also a an Ivy League professor.

He was an elder at the Presbyterian Church and He told me he was gonna teach me reformed theology and I was I learned about Calvinism. I I seem to hate reformed theology and I never touched a Bible, but I thought you know, I'm seeing him tonight I should open my Bible for the first time just so I'm prepared So I opened my Bible randomly with Calvinism on my mind having no background in Scripture.

Where did I turn Romans 9?

And I.

Was reading through that I was like, this is totally Calvinism and I hate it. But then after talking to him a bit He helped it make sense to me and then soon I began to fall in love with Calvinism and reformed theology and predestination.

And then I was willing to be confirmed in the PCUSA. It was funny like at first I was like I hope the PCUSA doesn't teach Calvinism and then turns out it does. Then the second I fell in love with it I realized the PCUSA doesn't actually teach Calvinism anymore.

They just teach liberalism. Yeah, I said to my mentor like hey, I want to leave this denomination and go PCA and he explained to me. He was like Richard the reason it got this bad is because people kept running away.

You have to stay and not run away and that has stuck with me ever since so I've been trying to learn more theology ever.

Since yeah, and you know Presbyterianism, I mean not only Calvinistic but a good solid Presbyterian Church is going to be reformed. Which I would say those those are two distinctions as well. We kind of lump Calvinism and reformed in the same kind of we use them interchangeably when in fact reformed tradition is Is is definitely different than just when you're talking about the theological system, you know true and I'm and I'm reformed Presbyterian myself, so We're you're in good company.

So so can I ask you though? Because this I had the kind of a same journey with reformed theology coming out of a very legalistic church when I was younger and Then we swung to a very Pentecostal kind of charismatic Bethel Redding, you know.

Gold coming from the ceilings and stuff feathers floating in the air and when I looked at Reformed theology for the first time. It's just started all making sense to me. I saw a stripped-down version of the Word of God without the traditions and I actually had the opposite reaction I go.

Oh my gosh. This is what I've been missing my whole life. You said you Kind of hated it at first. So you're a year or two into your your Christianity walk your sanctification and you say you hate it. What did you what did you find repulsive or what didn't you like about it when you started reading it?

Oh, just the predestination thing. That was all at the time. That's all I knew of Calvinism now. Of course, I know Calvinism includes a lot of other things including infant baptism. At the time I I was thinking about predestination and yeah I first started having doubts about my faith rather than going to the Word of God.

I went to other sources just to help me believe in God like I wanted to believe in God. Writing atheism not. I wasn't trying. I wasn't trying to convince myself of Reformed theology. I was trying to convince myself of theism.

I didn't know. So the sources I turned to were like Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager and like a lot of Jewish sources. Right and at the time I still had a big affinity for Judaism and free will is extremely important in Judaism.

They teach straight-up free will and workspace salvation like Judaism is what Protestants think Catholicism is but Catholicism actually isn't. Judaism actually does teach you earn your salvation and yeah, they Very big emphasis on free.

Well, they teach we're all a blank slate. What makes us human is our free will ability to do either right or wrong and that listening to Shapiro and Prager helped sort of Mitigate my atheist doubts, but it wasn't good enough.

It wasn't till I got into Reformed theology and started listening to Tim Keller. That I all my doubts really went away. So I know people have criticisms of Tim Keller. Yes, he woke late in life if it weren't for him.

I mean, I totally wouldn't be reformed. I don't know if I'd still be Christian because I just had so many doubts about the faith and his simple stuff. We forgot his sermons like a lot of people say. They did not believe they believed the Bible was the inerrant Word of God because their pastor told them and then they read the Bible.

And they realized oh, this can't be the Word of God it's got like contradictions and it's not just a book of magical sayings like I thought it was. I Disbelieved the Bible was the inerrant Word of God even when I was Christian I believe in Jesus, but I've been told at school that the Bible is full of contradictions and lies.

So I just thought that was a fact. I thought everyone knew that. But when I read the Bible, I was like this actually is the infallible Word of God. It's completely self-consistent doesn't say anything.

That's actually wrong. So that's what convinced me and listening to Tim Keller exposit the Bible very well. That's what convinced me the Bible is the infallible Word of God.

Yeah, it's a beautiful thing that God's Word doesn't go void. I mean there's some teachers early in my walk and some pastors that I Listened to that heavily pointed me in the right direction and influenced me and now to this day look back and I go I probably don't align with them on most things.

I Think they've probably gone a little too far you know, I like a Matt Chandler for instance was someone that I really enjoyed listening to him preach and. And now you go, you know, we're so far apart on some stuff.

But the Lord will use anyone anywhere and his true word doesn't go void. So yeah, I get that early Tim Keller was pretty revolutionary. Like you said probably the last seven or eight years I kind of was like, okay I just I just see a lot of seeding ground to secularism and trying to be neutral and we're living in a in a day Where I don't know if you necessarily can have can have neutrality.

It's you're either serving Christ or you're serving Satan, you know. But yeah.

Good. I'm sorry. I feel like in the 90s when he when most of his good stuff came out. That was when it was kind of kind of made sense to balance left and right. But now the both the left and the right have shifted way to the left since then.

So now if you try to balance the two, you're just gonna be a leftist.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you'll be sitting on one side of the seesaw all by yourself, I guess, huh? All right, so. So 14 we have the experience. You start diving in start learning other than Tim Keller.

What were some guys early that you. I'm always interested in this that you know. Because for me it was James White. RC Sproul. It was believe it or not It was Keith Green from some of his sermons in the 70s that were uploaded to YouTube like a weird eclectic.

You know, I got a reformed Baptist. I got RC Sproul. Who's got some, you know, some weird stuff. People say Oh, well, he's not right, you know, right? I mean Keith Green was very charismatic and not even in the reformer but the Lord used some of those things balanced against the Word of God to really Point me in the right direction.

What were some of yours early besides Tim Keller? Did you have any or was it just like diving into the word and reading?

Theology. Oh, yeah, so I listen to sermons all the time from all sorts of different people especially because School really sucked being basically the only Christian there. I would always eat lunch behind the school so nobody would see me eating alone.

Because I got canceled by my friend group the second I stopped believing in LGBT and transgenderism. Wow. So school would suck. I would come home play Minecraft and listen to sermons. My schoolwork got pushed to the side, but if I hadn't done that I wouldn't be able to make the videos I do today.

So I would listen I call. I was sort of like a presbacterian back then. I listen to Tim Keller a little bit of RC Sproul here and there never really went that deep. I listened to a lot of John MacArthur who today is not someone I would recommend to people.

But it did listening to him did help me through high school because hearing everyone blaspheme God all around me it helps to listen to someone who had a Strong confidence in the Word of God, even though I was never quite as conservative as him I still respected him.

Like I never believed Catholics are damned. I never I always believed in evolution. I never didn't believe in it and I Was a bit more open-minded towards like other Christian traditions than he was but I still listen to him a lot.

Yes, I listen to James White, especially as debates with like Muslims and stuff. I also listen to just youtubers like Matt Whitman the 10-minute Bible hour that's how I started to learn about denominations and I had a blessed to have a conversation with them super nice and humble guy and Yeah, just your average, you know YouTube Reformed Baptist people and it wasn't until college that I actually left my mainline PC USA Church and experienced Evangelicalism for the first time like until I went off to college I had never actually gone to an evangelical church and I saw how I saw how like Unsacramental it was how individualistic it was.

So that's when I started college. I had like my high church phase I stopped listening to all those Reformed Baptists. I started listening to like Jordan Cooper Who's a Lutheran and he's got great lectures on just all areas of theology so he started to inform my theology for the next few years and As I have progressed throughout college and as my platform has grown I've had a growing understanding that I should be reading primary sources and not just listening to YouTube pastors.

So it wasn't until college. I started actually reading the confessions of my church reading the Scots confession realizing that not only are Reformed Baptists not performed most Presbyterians don't even believe the Reformed view of the sacraments anymore and In just the past few years.

I've been just the past year I probably read more in the past year and the rest of my life put together I'm reading lots of church fathers lots of books from American Presbyterians lots of Reformers all that stuff.

So let me ask you this. You're a young guy. You said you're 21, right? So and it seems like you have enough self-awareness to understand that your. That your beliefs can evolve. And when I say beliefs, maybe I'm saying that wrong.

Maybe I'm saying the doctrines that you hold to or the systematic theology. Can evolve Over time and I'm gonna tell you right now. Like I said as someone in his 40s, it will evolve. I've evolved on many things, right?

So. So because I think when you mentioned evolution it brought to my mind. I think I saw something with you and Keith Foskey. Did you guys do something on evolution? And I think your position was God still the creator but could use the system of evolution to essentially.

What we have now create what we have now, is that kind of. Am I encapsulating. Encapsulating that right? That's correct.

Yeah, I did a date with Foskey. I mean, I love Keith Foskey. He's such an awesome guy. Yeah, and we've done lots of discussions. We did an infant baptism debate and then the evolution debate and lots of other videos together.

But you know, we did that evolution debate and that's pretty much my position.

Yeah.

So let me ask you this do you just on that one thing or maybe other things that make maybe on evolution because I had An uncle who was an engineer super intelligent guy super smart. My mom was the only saved person in her family.

She witnessed him all the time and I remember him coming over when I was young and making that argument. The same argument you did and he said I will always hold to that. There's that's that's exactly how I mean, he was so confident.

Right when he when he first got saved after you know in his late 20s early 30s and now, you know 20 years later. He's totally flipped on that and he's a young earth Creationist. Then I always wonder, you know, it's good when I'm talking to the younger generation.

Do you have that self-awareness where you go and I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm saying do you ever think that's something where I might be open to believing something different years down the road if Evidence presents itself or the Lord changes my heart on it or something like that.

Or is that something you look at an issue for you and you go? I'll always be on that side of the fence on let's say evolution.

Right, I mean I'm aware that my beliefs always could change because many times they have and usually when I do change my beliefs It's a change in the conservative direction. Like I'm not one of them deconstructors.

The only thing I deconstructed was my leftist upbringing. I changed my mind on gay marriage after two years. I changed my mind on women pastors. After three years I was actually I was Pretty conservative but still trying to make an argument for women pastors.

Which my wife when I first met her metaphorically tore apart and explained why it's unbiblical. So now I don't believe in women pastors anymore.

Well, that's hilarious. I have the same story. I was soft on it. I I was kind of more like Egalitarian they can still teach let's just not call him a pastor. My wife is like no that does not work. And this is why and really turn kind of turned me in the right direction on that.

I'm not, you know I'm not afraid to say that because that that's that's part of what the Lord does with a helpmate like that, you know.

Yeah, I yeah, I was. I was like saying they are pastors we can call them that and it's a good thing. Yeah, and I even tried to make a biblical argument and even to this day. I'm working for reform in the PC USA.

There's a lot of great Bible-believing pastors in the PC USA who still through some mental gymnastics support women's ordination and are trying to convince me to. But none of the arguments they give for women's ordination is anything is.

Anything I didn't already try to use in high school and got debunked by my girlfriend. So yeah.

Yeah, it's tough when the work when the Word of God ties it right to a creation mandate, you know. It's it's really tough argue culture and things like that. But alright, so we're up to you're in college now.

Are you college right now? Is that what I heard? Yeah finishing it up even though I'm married. Yeah.

That's awesome though, man. Where are you going to school at?

So I go to a school in Texas. Okay. Oh, you're in Texas. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay, and it's a good school. It's not like an explicitly Christian school. But it is like one of those historically Christian schools that were Christian like a hundred years ago.

So they have a really awesome mainline seminary library and lately I've been taking advantage of it to read.

Bunch of.

Like mainline libraries have just so many more resources. They have so many books you wouldn't even think to read. They have like 11 dusty thick volumes on Welsh Calvinistic Methodism in upstate, New York.

It's like stuff you wouldn't think to read. Like you wouldn't just sit down one day and Google that on your computer.

It's just.

The internet is great, but it's not everything being part of like a physical tradition is still very valuable. No, absolutely.

Okay. So let's get into some fun questions here because I want to know a little bit more about you and I want the listeners. To know a little bit more about you and hopefully some of my listeners. They'll go check out your channel and see what they like see what they don't like.

I mean, that's the great thing about The internet. We all get opinions and we can watch what we want, but I think there's some valuable content. So guys if you're listening and we're gonna link up and if you haven't heard of redeem zoomer.

You're gonna go check out his his YouTube channel. But the very first thing. So where you grew up at. Yeah, what's. What city and state? How did that affect your childhood and your upbringing. The physical location of where you grew up at.

New York, New York City and.

The way I grew up being very progressive and you know when I.

Met my.

Midwestern wife from Kansas I learned that the rest of the country thinks we don't have any manners at all. And then after spending like a month in the Midwest and then going back I started to see why and I still act like a New Yorker in many ways like even in my tweets.

I just espouse opinions. Even if they sound offensive, I'm like, I don't know. I didn't care about offending the leftists in high school. I don't care about offending the conservatives in college. I don't care.

But I love it. Yeah. Yeah, I got it. I grew up in the Midwest, but I've got a little New York in me. And when I was in a band, I was signed to a label and we went out to LA and it was everyone just talking about things they were going to do and then we went to New York for a week and I was like, I like New York a lot better people getting stuff done telling you exactly how they feel.

Like no one's afraid to offend you out in Los Angeles. It's all you know, they're just blowing smoke. So yeah, I get it. I kind of get that a little bit from you too, even in your tweets and online. You're just very direct and I am too.

I like that. So, all right, we're gonna try to get through these. You don't have to elaborate a whole bunch on these comes once you can get through them all. What is your favorite funny story or joke to tell people like if you're introducing yourself or you've just met someone you have a funny Antidote a funny joke a story that you tell something you go to or do you not have one at all?