These Are the Days of Elijah (Special guest Ashley Shipley) | Season 5 Episode 7

What's up, everybody? We are back and excited to be here. We've got three or four episodes left in this season and then as always. Send in more ideas for next season, which you know I don't even know why we do seasons probably should just do continuing episodes because I get confused what season one.

I think we're on season five. Yes, but it gives us a break. No, I'm okay with breaks. I'll just say.

Episode 70 we're gonna take a break, but that probably is kind of stupid and they're mine. I'll just let you thank you. I was like hold the side. So as always got Anna right here to my right your left.

We got Ashley special guest today to my left your right. And our yeah, I like that. Thank you. We're doing today. The topic is these are the days of Elijah first Kings 18. So today it's gonna be a little different.

We're gonna walk through first Kings 18 and and that's with Elijah challenging the prophets of Baal. And we're going to apply it to today and I know we have a game to get to first but I just wanted to do a quick plug for our Point taken merch and here are our models are Vanna whites.

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That's right. Thank you gentlemen. Great. Thank you. That was great. We used to use a what did we call him? What did we call the mannequin Seth? I mean that low. What did we call the mannequin? But he's over there and the camera doesn't pan that far over.

He should be sitting in the corner. Yeah, he needs to be but there's a light over there. So, all right, but look before we get into our topic. My understanding is I'm holding these Legos because we have a game to play.

It's like that game that you guys did with hunter that one season. So I'm going to give you a couple of statements. Well, I have like at least ten and If we all agree on them, then no one gets one of these taken.

But if two people agree and a person disagrees, then you get one of these pegs. Take all right. Can I tell you are you. Can I tell you something? I'm not explain that right. You explained it perfectly.

Okay, can I tell you something? Do you hate this game? I love this game. Can I tell you why I remember this game? I remember it's called hive mind. Yes.

Do you remember because water is wet?

Because I've had many people many not meaning small people many in a NY as in a plethora. Come up to me and say hey I watched I watched your podcast and the game that you played the game that you played the game that you played.

I was so On your side of this one or no you were way wrong here. I've had someone who currently lives in another state. Message me who used to be here in Memphis message me and goes I cannot believe your answers to that game.

I think this was when I was on maternity leave and I was like enraged at some of these answers that you guys get. I Commented on them. I'm like, no, this is so wrong. Oh, they Beat what was that a bear would totally beat a gorilla.

Yeah. And I was the only one who said that. Okay, I would have been on your side. I did. Thank you.

You typically are on my side. Um, well. See I haven't finished last week's episode. I'm sure there was some mockery of me as with every episode that I'm not on it's because I love you. Yeah, you must love me a lot.

You're like, I love you. I say I love you. You're like, I love you more, you know, you guys always do that.

Yeah, we do. Yeah. All right. I'm ready Anna. Tell us what we're doing here. Well, I already did. Yeah, I know. Money to pay attention. All right, let's go.

So the first one you should put cereal in the bowl first followed by milk. See I've already forgotten what to do. I'm not gonna lie. Okay. So if we all agree. So if you believe if you agree that cereal should be put in the bowl before milk raise your hand.

I thought it was supposed to close your eyes.

Right. Close your eyes. Okay. Okay. Gosh, so raise your hand if I agree with that. Yes, say it again.

Cereal should be put in the bowl before the milk. One two three.

Open your eyes. Okay, only philistines and communists put milk in where.

You never have the right ratio. It depends on the cereal because the cereal floats to the top.

Can I tell you something? I have eaten cereal a total of now. This might shock you a total of one time in the past five years and it was last month. I like cereal. I'll just never eat it.

What I'm gonna eat it it's Reese's Puff Reese's Puff Reese's Puff peanut butter chocolate flavor two three four Reese's Puff.

But the thing is it's the best cereal. That's not a by the way, it's not a Statement of opinion statement of fact, but imagine putting milk in first and then pouring the circular Halfway buoyant halfway soaking.

Yeah, you're gonna have too much milk. Yeah.

Tell you I have landed Cereal like after I finished eating cereal and then I want more then I poured it on top. But then I always like add more milk if I need it. So there's a mic over there.

You can grab before and disagree next question.

Cereal close your eyes. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Cereal is soup. What? Cereal is soup. One two three.

Wait a minute, absolutely not. I forgot. This is the one to wear if I don't go along with the masses. I lose the point. Yeah, that's right. Like I explained your logic. Sorry. Yeah your logic explain.

No, I'm gonna pull the Jesus and answer a question with the question What is soup?

Are you asking me? What's very clearly based on my contact with? It's an edible liquid.

Okay, okay, thank you for saying that. Here's what just happened. Everyone in the room just said. If they agree with your definition and cereal is soup. That's what just happened. Can everyone agree if we agreed with her definition of It's a liquid was edible.

Technically Cereal is green. But if you mean like putting it in the bowl with milk and that I don't mean grabbing cereal out of the box is soup. I mean putting it in the bowl with milk. Of course. It's a pastor.

Master manipulator, why do you keep saying that?

Oh my gosh, so.

There's a difference. So soup. Requires some form of cooking process. Now. I know you're about to say something like gazpacho or like cold soups or some soup requires.

I'm not gonna say words. I don't know what they mean what I will say. Super quiet. 100 of cereal.

It is a it is 100 of cereals. It is it is a meal. It is a whole meal in a bowl.

Here is a dollar if you can name a cereal that's not cooked.

Like if you're making no if you know, you do not have to cook. Cereal can be made with just like whole grains and just.

Milk, okay. Have you okay. We have someone that works at Kellogg's, you know, they have ovens there.

Yes, they do have ovens, but they also.

Bake it or heat it up in order to eat it. You know, I'm right. It is food that is cooked.

Okay, it is a food that is cooked with a variety of other ingredients.

Even milk it. Okay. All right, it's fine. It's cool, but you don't cook that. Are we isn't the topic today about going on with the masses? It is a fitting game. Savory it has to be savory to be a soup.

No, no, is that a all-inclusive statement you saying normally because I am about the counter and before I'll let you have a moment.

Normally, oh Michelle get the mic give her the mic we have a whole you can't we have a comment.

You have to. Yeah, we have a hand in the audience that is being raised. From the art gallery soup is normally savory. However, there are some Exceptions. There are some soups that are sweet. Cereal is not a soup.

Okay, what soup is sweet? There are some Polish soups that are made with yogurt and fruit, yes, she is correct. Could you.

Gently explain to me How cereal is so far out of that category that it can't be in that category?

Aside from gazpacho, which was mentioned, which is a classy soup. That is assembled. Assembled in a similar manner to yeah cereal. Why did you put quotes? Was it Michelle's point. I think what she's trying to get even gazpacho it is still there's still a cooking process because it's usually cooked.

With some sort of acid like citric acid or like a tartar. Yes. It is a prepared now. Yeah, real in it in and of itself is not baked. If they have a if they have an oven at Kellogg's it may be tried. Now I might be wrong.

It's probably baked. However, it is not Assembled and cooked. Would you agree with me that cinnamon toast crunch is baked before. Probably however that I probably do.

You said cooked. I heard you say cook and you emphasize the word cook. Toasting is cooked in a pot on the stove I.

Actually, let's let's go with that definition a little bit because okay. So already seeded pre-assemble your cereal and put it in the fridge and use it as leftovers and tell me that it's gonna still be.

Edible, I'm not. No that wasn't no it is no longer cereal. It is now a casserole apart from apart from norms in your life. Can anyone give me a a definition of soup with that cereals not included?

We just did no.

You said that's not good. It is liquid. It is like Solid bit. You didn't say savory. She did and I'm adding that because a savory liquid.

Definition. It is a meal that you must eat in a bowl. That is cooked in some way in a pot.

All right. I'm googling the soup definition because I'm not I'm asking based on that division.

No, sarcasm the the ramen cup noodles. Do y 'all call that soup? I call. I would consider it a type of soup. Yes, so the bowl thing you didn't actually mean a bowl. Fine.

Traditional ramen. Ramen is served in a bowl.

Yes, ma 'am soup noun. A Liquid food prepared from meat fish or vegetable stock combined with various other ingredients and often containing solid pieces.

Wait a minute. Your punchline went along with cereal.

But what were they. You said you said vegetable meat. What was the fish or vegetable stock. So it's a broth.

Yeah chicken broth things like that. Okay. All right, if that's if that's the definition we're going to use. Then if that's the definition we're going to use our potatoes vegetables. Yes. Mmm. Are they?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean it has to throw out a lot of soups.

Okay, the second part, you know how they have like different definitions like one two, and three. Yes, ma 'am. The second one is something having the appearance of or consistency suggested of soup. I.

Will go in that definition then. I guess cereal is not a soup.

Okay, all right, let's move on to the next. I'm gonna play right and close my eyes. I'm reading the question, but I'll cover my eyes. I'll cover it to where I can't see all. Summer is better than winter.

Wait, we raise our hands if we agree. Yes. Okay. Summer is better than winter. Pastor I'm assuming is still struggling to vote. I'm ready. Okay, one, two, three. Yes.

I'll give you the I'll give you the block. Thank you. Calm down. No, because yeah, we would forget with our laser.

Cereal yeah. That's my favorite. And this is subjective, but for me summer is better because I hate I hate being cold.

I hope God calls you mission field. Okay. I have one. Just one thing Summer is always more expensive. The air condition. The cost of Summer is more expensive on gas. Points made. Expensive on gas because there's more travel somewhere is more expensive on your electric bill because of the air conditioning somewhere's more expensive all around.

No, but with the winter we just had the time change not too long ago. So it's gloomy. It gets dark earlier. You can't do as many things because it's cold and wet and depressing. The only fun part about winter is like Christmas with the lights and then after that like my birthday falls after Christmas.

You're just not trying hard enough.

You know, I actually see both those points so I actually struggle with it, okay.

I really do but that's why I prefer summer over what like I and I've always called my husband instead of increasing the heat. Because we went over that one of the last episodes when like I heated our apartment to like 80 degrees and it Was like $300 bill for a three bedroom.

You got in trouble. I didn't so I can't test the thermostat anymore. So he bought me an electric blanket. So I stay huddled in that thing.

There's good parts about both those. If you had said fall. Christmas is the only good part. Oh, yeah fall, which is clearly.

It's the superior season for sure. All right. Okay, so I'll I will I will go with that. Okay, go ahead and remove one. I did. No, you didn't. No, she did you were full of crap. We all started out with four.

See he's cheater.

The more she accused me to hire her voice like there's I did.

Okay, werewolves are more dangerous than vampires. Okay, you ready. Yeah, one two three.

Guys this is you saw her and y 'all. All right, I live in the forest and never come out unless there's a full moon. Oh I can fly Every night like come on, but they can have you seen Ben Helsing. I.

Don't like watch movies that are.

Popular werewolves have an easier time blending in with the general population and I'm just throwing stuff out there. They can blend in there. I mean, I guess it depends. What kind of vampire are we talking about here?

We talked about Stephanie Myers vampires. We're talking about actual like real traditional.

I'm sorry. I am gonna interrupt here. And this is the first time I've interrupted today. I'm gonna look this way. Okay, go ahead. Did you just say real vampires?

Not the gay vampires but the one not the sparkly ones that are being rewritten to just make things weird. The like vampires of Tradition the vampires that legends were made from.

Yeah, because the only thing that vampires like the legend vampires can do or like I want to suck your blood like. That's how I imagine. Think of Harry Potter. I don't remember which episode it is or like which.

Which movie are you counting serious black as a werewolf? No, it wasn't a werewolf. No, it's the other guy. It's Lupin was. Yes. Yes, and so which was. I think that is he was pretty vicious and scary-looking.

So that's why I said there.

They're more. The only thing that I will give vampires are more.

Rolling do not write about a vampire. I.

Mean she did. They were they were alluded to yes.

All right, whatever. What's the next one? Oh.

This one this one I put specifically for Ashley, oh, okay her eyes are open. I can't wait. I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay, books are better than movies. One two three all the way up just.

Wait a minute. What in the world is wrong? Books have far more.

Yes, and you can use your imagination. I.

Wanted a follow-up question, but as always I was silenced. I wanted to know did you mean a book in a movie about the same material and one's made. A book one's made.

Made into a movie like which is better. Okay. Okay, like Harry Potter books or Harry Potter movies.

Okay, so the question is if if there is a book and a movie the question is which one those two are better.

Yes, so like the books are better than movies.

Before I take my block back there are probably only four or five Movies slash books that I have both read the book and watched the movie. Okay, I and in those examples are Sherlock Holmes Hobbit Lord of the Rings.

I'm counting as one Hobbit Lord of the Rings. I didn't read Harry Potter man. We're not counting the Chosen as a movie about. There's only a handful and with Sherlock Holmes, they were both great, but the problem is Downey jr.

And What's his name? Dr. Strange. Oh. Those movies were fantastic. So I am a sick of my original Tolkien was better than Peter Jackson. Okay, listen, listen, though.

I'm I mean you can still have a movie that is fantastic and does follow the book. Well but the book is still I mean the the whole Essence of the book no matter what you do when you turn it into a movie.

You're not gonna have the the art at the original artists or the the writers. That's fair.

Original soul in that movie that I can give you I can give you oh. Yeah, Caspian was a horrible movie. Oh, that was a good book. Chronicles and Arnie of a second. Yeah, but I will say this I Will say this now the Hobbit was better as a book.

Let me tell you something. Fellowship Towers and Return of the King as movies were better. Oh.

If any was once when was to make an argument that Somebody stayed as true to the soul of the book. Peter Jackson did one time.

I watched a movie made after a video game and it was one of the way biggest waste of times I've ever seen. Well, of course, it's a I want to say it was Assassin's Creed. It was it was horrible. I did.

Let me let me come back and win this. I'm ready. You're gonna come back. I'm gonna just listen for one. Y 'all raise your hand.

Okay, um the person in the middle seat of an airline row automatically gets both armrests. You said it's a rerun. Did we do this one before. I don't remember this one. Okay, hold on. I haven't voted yet.

Okay, everyone got their answers. Hmm. Okay. All right. All right, great. See. But the thing is like we were talking about this one beforehand. Like everyone can get both armrests like on either side of the middle person like the person in the middle gets like the back of the armrest and the person next to him can get.

Let me be honest with you.

Probably be that person who wouldn't share just because I'd be like I just be like this. But I don't want them to be upset that I'm taking the armrest that belongs to me. I.

Will say as a person who travels a lot like a lot That is what you're paying for. So there's a reason why the the seats are different prices and you're the prices are what you are paying for. So if you're getting an aisle seat, you're paying for the aisle.

You're paying to be able to get out extra leg extra leg room. But you're paying to be able to get out easily if you're getting a window seat. You're paying for that window because you want something to look out at if you're in the middle seat.

You have to get both armrests because you don't have any either one of those benefits.

And so that's kind of where that rule comes from. If I've ever sat in a middle seat because it's always been the worst it's. Hate the middle seat so much. I would not. If I had a choice I would not pay for.

I don't want people touch. Touching me I would. I would not enjoy that. Okay last one and then we can get started. I'm ready. Okay, this is the Golden Girls question. Dorothy is the best Golden Girl. Yeah, I think so, okay.

One two three. Yes.

The mom Sophia Sophia Sophia. Because she's a grouchy old lady just like me.

Dorothy is just so quick-witted and she totally hates on Rose. Well, but let's be real though.

Dorothy gets it from her mother. Her mother is the OG quick-witted old lady, but Dorothy is better. He's great.

What's the score. We all have three. You had one.

Adding to. You are left to this, sir. No, there's three right here. Put something in here. Okay. I can't wait. He's gonna do a slow-mo replay. You're both right here.

It's a tie I didn't win. It was a tie. Good job guys.

Good job, everybody. See Anna is so incensed, but I grew up with you. So it really doesn't shock me all that much.

So, so you're not gonna be good sport. Who's who's the sore loser.

Okay, the reason I did that is because my mom growing up she would always play Candyland with us. To teach us, you know, like, you know, like morals and all that crap and whatever, but every time I morals.

You know like how to be good sport, you know. So she would sometimes win and then sometimes she would let me win so like she would miss a couple of spaces or whatever and then when I won I was like like your dad like.

And then I would always have to like, oh, you know good game good game, you know, whatever but when she would win I was. She always she always made me shake her hand afterwards, so I wanted to prove a point.

My mom watches mom. I'm good job, Lisa. Good job Linda you know that meme. Mom like has a hard time listening to me. So I'm like really not listening. You have a hard time accepting a tie anyway, you Cheated okay, and I hope that Lowell can find the footage to replay it and add something spectacular like.

It would make me so. That's awesome. I'm glad for you. Okay, it won't be that.

So, you know what we're doing now, are we ready? Yeah, we're ready. We can move on with the all right. You already get to work.

First Kings 18. So Ashley was inspired By something she heard in Sunday school. For it for a lot of you Christians out there Sunday school is a Bible study you get to Before morning service probably should consider doing that and then you're right sleeping in like you can on Saturday.

Yeah, and sometimes I make breakfast. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm turning the first Kings in Revelation. Yeah, she makes excellent breakfast. So first Kings Ashley, why don't you give us? Succinctly the overall flavor of what you want to talk about.

Yeah, so When we were talking about first Kings 18 I was in the middle of doing another Bible study on the psychology of demons and angels. Really weird study was actually kind of interesting. But we were talking about the prophets of Baal and Moloch and all of these People there during this chapter and it led me on a study of like who these people are, you know what were some of the rites and Religious What's the word I'm looking for Practices, thank you practices that these people did and so I felt very convicted as I was reading some of this because it also was I was you know reading about the Israelites because they were there what their part was in in this and it started convicting me heavily in how much of a mirror image I got into what is going on today and which was also really interesting because the week leading up to you in the week following Us doing this Bible study in Sunday school the song.

These are the days of Elijah was coming going over and over. Yes It is a pump song, but it took on that song like took on a whole new meaning to me after reading You know going through doing this Bible study.

So that's kind of where a lot of this happened. And then of course Elena and Anna kind of drugged me up here after I was telling them about it. So.

Do you mind if I read a portion of it real quick, yeah, please so so guys I'm gonna read a portion for those of you not familiar. Let me slow down for a little bit. I'm writing a paper. So this is fresh in my mind, but In general in general there are only three stages of history where God allowed Supernatural miracle workers Moses and Joshua Elijah and Elisha Christ and the Apostles now, there are others that can interpret dreams or things like that but I'm talking about Physics defying going against the laws of nature type miracles and making axe heads float, right?

Parting seas. I mean that kind of stuff. It's really only three beards in history. It really is the law Moses and Joshua Elijah and Elisha Prophets Christ and the Apostles and I'm writing a paper on this right now.

At any rate we're in one of those times. So one of the very few times in Scripture where God allows Supernatural miracle workers and we have Elisha now. Sure was Elijah's Disciple but here we're at Elijah.

I said that right? I think I said sure I think Elijah. Excuse me and There are goodness hundreds of false prophets here and they're on Mount Carmel and They're having a challenge, so this is what Elijah says he says I am in verse I'm starting in 19 now therefore sin and gather all Israel to meet me in Mount Carmel and the 450 prophets of Baal and the 400 prophets of Asherah who eat at Jezebel's table.

No. Well, Ashley's gonna get into this in a minute notice the false prophets are meeting at the king and queen of Israel's table. That's that's how far they have given over and then in verse 21 Elijah came near to all the people.

This is the people of Israel and said how long we go limping between two different opinions if Yahweh is God follow him. But at Baal follow him and the people didn't answer him a word. Yeah, I am I Was witnessing to a young man that goes to our MMA ministry here.

He might actually watch this our MMA minister our song soldiers God ministry, by the way. We're probably gonna have four or five fighters next year in 2024. I'm very excited about that and Someone he loves recently got saved actually converted regenerated their life has changed and he told me Um, I don't know what y 'all told him, but he's like totally different now.

He's like a different person. I would love to believe that stuff. Hmm and I said well. Look, man Try to disprove the Bible. If it comes up to be false, you don't have to worry about it. Yep, if it comes out to be true, then you have a decision to make.

I kind of like see Elijah saying Don't quit limping between two different opinions. If Yahweh's God, you don't have a choice. You will worship him. But if Baal is God follow him. Don't be lukewarm in the middle at any rate Ash tell us some of your initial thoughts about first Kings 18.

Okay, so.

First before I do I wanted to give a little bit more background on what is kind of cuz you know Give shoulder ground. Like foot ground all of it. So So I in doing my study on this I did a little bit of extra biblical study on this.

So I wanted to give a little bit of perspective and why when I was doing some of those studies. Why it shocked me so much. So we have 450 prophets of Baal and 450 or 400 prophets of Yeah, there's 850 people here.

So they are prophets of Baal and Asherah and then it's you know, there's all there's Moloch. There's all these other guys so one of the things the rites that you would do and the and the practices that these people do.

Is the whole sale slaughter of children, right they would sacrifice children to these bales now one thing that I think a lot of people don't know about Bale. Bale is not a proper name. Bale is not the name of a god.

Bale actually means Possessor or Lord. So one of the things that they would do is they would Worship the bale of a mountain or the bale of a city gate so one of the things that they would do is they would take their children and they would sacrifice them to the bale of the City or so and you know, it says in the Bible a lot where the prince of this city or the the bale of this city.

They considered these gods which Spoiler alert, you know, they're demons that are the lords or the possessors of this little area. They could be a possessor of a tree of mountain a city gate but what they would do is they would kill their children and then bury them either in the Foundations or underneath these trees at the foot of these mountains as an offering to these gods or these bales Asherah kind of similar things.

She was more of a goddess of fertility and so There were a lot of prostitution and other Sexually immoral acts that were done in her temples her temples were basically brothels then you have. Then you have other gods who their Practices had to do with mutilation.

So and you actually see it as we continue in chapter 18. You will see that part of their. As they're worshiping their God and sacrifice if they are Bible gets a little bit graphic on what they are doing to themselves.

Which is why there are laws in the law of God say Leviticus. Talk about not cutting yourselves and making Tattoo marks for the dead and all these. Exactly exactly.

Exactly, then you go.

Hold on I just lost my thought. No, I'm not. How they sacrifice children and cut themselves like like these guys are about right.

Oh, and then the other thing that I did find out. And this is the part that just made me sick to my stomach. So the people of Israel they're here they're on the mountain, you know. You have the prophets of Baal and Moloch and Asherah here you have the people of God and then it says that the the prophets of Yahweh they were in hiding because They were being hunted.

It doesn't say necessarily that they were there. It says that Elijah had called them. It doesn't necessarily say specifically that they were if they were there or not but It says that they stayed silent through all of this.

And there's a few things that I found out because I kind of was looking into that. There is actual ancient pottery and writings from this time where the Whatever you want to call it the lore the Religious belief at the time was more pantheistic and so the Israelites would try to shoehorn God into the beliefs of Baal Asherah And Moloch so there were actual writings talking about how Yahweh is the husband of Asherah or talking about Yahweh in a female form or talking about God as the brother of this specific Baal so it was one of those things where the people of Israel were trying to basically make their religion and the religion of the world coexist.

Right. So you if we fast forward here and we get back to the the point get back to the the topic here. We've got the people of God standing on Mount Carmel. They have Survived a three and a half year drought.

I believe it's three and a half. Is it three or three and a half? Is it one and a half? Yeah, okay. It's a it's a drought so We're sitting here in the middle of a drought. Are you gonna look it up? Yeah, you keep going.

Okay, we're sitting in the middle of a drought and the people of God have suffered and so God tells Elijah's like, all right, go to Ahab show yourself to him. We're gonna settle this. So get the prophets of Baal prophets of all of them and all the people of Israel and Elijah's sitting there looking at them as As once they all get gathering he's like how long are you guys going to limp along between two different opinions two different gods if God is God serve him if Baal or Moloch are the gods you serve them, right and they said nothing.

So here's here's where I really get sick to my stomach. How long you know This is what I think that the people of God now, how long are we going to sit silent? We're doing the same things now. We are killing babies right by the millions by the day.

We have young kids. We have people who you know, I've watched a lot of these interviews lately we've have young kids and young people who they are being pulled into ideologies that Demand that they mutilate themselves, right and we have people who celebrate death that they celebrate when somebody else who Thinks differently than them loses their life in my study with Like the psychology of demons and stuff that's one of the things that I think I can just boil everything down to is you know, what is considered because For a long time and it's lost its Strength, but you know anything that was considered, you know, not biblical or something that Christians didn't like we would say Oh, that's just demonic.

That's it. Okay, we can boil things down that are demonic to anything that celebrates Or encourages the defacement or the defilement of the image of God. That is what that is and that includes Abortion you are killing an image of God and you are defaced you are defacing it.

You're dehumanizing it. You're well to dehumanize something is to make it less than what it is. And that is an image of God to Deform yourself or mutilate yourself for an ideology. That is a defacement of the image of God to celebrate death to celebrate the death of any creature That has the image of God.