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All right, let's open up to Revelation chapter eight, Revelation chapter eight, uh, what's
happening now in the book of Revelation, we, you know, we're calling this the tribulation
period, right?
But this is really the moment the wrath of God, uh, begins because
everything up until this point with the seal judgments, what is that?
The rise of the antichrist, uh, world war, famine, death.
A lot of that is, uh, man -made, I mean, warfare is between nations.
This is really the beginning with the trumpet judgments.
This is really the beginning of God's wrath being poured out, uh, upon the earth.
So here in Revelation chapter eight, uh, the timeline of the story is going to
advance.
I had said the overall events of revelation are in chronological order,
but every once in a while you get one of those parenthetical chapters that stands outside of the
timeline.
So we believe that in chapter four, that's when the rapture happens
as pictured with John being caught up to heaven.
He sees the 24 elders in heaven.
So that's, that's the church in heaven.
Chapter six is when the tribulation begins with the seals.
As I just mentioned, world war chapter seven was parenthetical.
So the storyline was not advanced in chapter seven.
It's telling of events that happen really in the future and in the past.
So now with revelation chapter eight, the story is advancing and we see
the trumpet judgments because the seventh seal is going to be opened and the seventh
seal really leads into the seven trumpets.
And then after the seven trumpets, you have the seven bowls.
So the seventh seal includes all of that.
So any questions about where we are in revelation, you understand, uh,
basically the chronology of events.
Okay.
So let's start reading.
Then revelation chapter eight, starting in verse one says, when he opened the
seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.
And I saw the seven angels who stand before God and to them were given seven
trumpets.
Then another angel having a golden sensor came and stood at the altar.
He was given much incense that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the
golden altar, which was before the throne.
And the smoke of the incense with the prayers of all the saints ascended before God from the angel's
hand.
Then the angel took the sensor, filled it with fire from the altar and threw it to the earth.
And there were noises, thunderings, lightnings, and an earthquake.
So the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to
sound or seven, the first angel sounded and hail and fire followed
mingled with blood.
And they were thrown to the earth and a third of the trees were burnt up in all green
grass was burned up.
Then the second angel sounded and something like a great mountain burning with fire was
thrown into the sea.
And a third of the sea became blood and a third of the living creatures in the sea
died and a third of the ships were destroyed.
Then the third angel sounded and a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch.
And it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.
And the name of the star is Wormwood.
The third of the waters became Wormwood and many men died from the water because it
was made bitter.
Then the fourth angel sounded and a third of the sun was struck a third of the moon and a third of
the stars so that a third of them were darkened.
A third of the day did not shine in likewise the night.
And I looked and I heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven saying with a loud voice,
woe, woe, woe to the inhabitants of the earth because of the remaining
blasts of the trumpet of the three angels who are about to
sound.
So you can see this, this is the beginning of God pouring out his wrath upon the earth.
Everybody, all cultures have their end of the world scenario, right?
Today we have that in our culture and it's called climate change and
they have theories of how the world will end.
And if it's not done by man, they theorize that in millions or billions of years, if
we do survive that long, the sun will burn out and then mankind will freeze
to death.
So everybody has had their idea of how the world will end.
Well, this is God's word of what he says is going to happen with the end of the world or
the end of the world as we know it, because actually revelation, this isn't the end of the world, right?
The world is going to live on, so to speak with the new heaven and the new earth.
But as you can see, things are going from bad to worse with the seal judgments you
had world war breakout.
So in chapter six, we saw warfare, famine, 25 of the
earth's population died.
And that's really nothing compared to what has started here.
Now, as we read some of these things, we run into the, maybe not the problem, but the question of
how literal do we take these things?
So that question often comes up and let's just go through that with that question in
mind.
Revelation eight, one, when he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half
an hour.
Now who opened the seal?
Jesus, right?
The seal he takes from God, the father who's sitting on the throne.
Christ takes the scroll and has seven seals.
So he's opened all the seals.
He opens the final seal and there's silence.
This has been described as something like the calm before the storm.
And John, remember, John is seeing everything now from heaven's vantage point.
And he sees now seven angels in verse two.
And the seven angels are given seven trumpets.
Now, what does the trumpet signify?
So in the old Testament, they had trumpets in Israel.
And depending on the sound of the trumpet, it could either signal to the
Israelites, either a call to worship or a call to battle.
So the men had to pay attention to the noise coming from the trumpet.
Is this a call to go to the tabernacle and worship?
Or is this a call to battle?
What do you think this is here in Revelation chapter eight?
Well, it's a call to battle.
The Lord is now battling against the antichrist and
his world system.
So God is waging war upon the earth.
You could look at it that way.
Verse three, we are reminded of the tabernacle.
How, remember when God told Moses how to build it and it was set up here on earth.
The tabernacle is actually a shadow of the true tabernacle that is in heaven.
So all these things, the altar and the censer, these were objects on earth.
But there seems to be a tabernacle or temple and an altar in heaven.
Now that raises some questions, but that's what it says.
So I believe that those things actually exist in heaven.
But one of the angels takes the censer.
What's a censer?
Who's been to a Catholic mass and they have that thing that swings with the incense, right?
Well, that's what a censer is or something like that.
So the angel took the censer to offer incense and we learned that incense, it
represents the prayers of the saints.
And we remember in back in chapter six, what was the prayer the saints were offering?
They were saying, Lord, how long, how long until you avenge our blood?
So they're, they're asking God, how long until you take vengeance?
Well, their prayer is getting answered right here.
So like I said, the beginning of the trumpet judgments, this is the beginning of the wrath of God being
poured out upon the earth.
And that's really what the, in verse five, the noises and thunderings and lightnings and an
earthquake, it's just a picture, an ominous sign of what's to come.
Any questions so far?
Kind of a scary picture, right?
So this is similar to what we saw in chapter four.
It mentioned in chapter four, thunderings, lightnings, verse six, the angels are now preparing
to sound the trumpets, the first blast.
Now I have the New King James and I think it's helpful just the way they label each trumpet.
So it says the first trumpet, what is struck?
Yeah, the vegetation is struck.
And then it's going to be, you know, after that, the sea and then fresh water, and then the
heavenly bodies.
But first the vegetation is struck.
Now it says that hail and fire followed and it was mingled with blood.
So we've all been outside and it started hailing out, right?
We've seen that now fire may be lightning.
We're not exactly sure, but it says it's mingled with blood.
So whatever this storm is that starts falling upon the earth, is this literal blood here?
Because that's one thing that, okay, hail we can see, fire from heaven, okay, that happens.
But blood, like, do we take the blood literally?
Who thinks the blood is literal?
I mean, I guess there's no right or wrong answer.
I mean, there is, I guess, a right or wrong answer.
But who says literal blood?
Okay, we got like two and a half for literal blood.
Okay, now I've been telling you going through Revelation, the only way to really understand what's happening
is to take the Bible literally.
But at the same time, even some of the most literal interpreters, you know, they
don't take everything literal.
Let me just read to you what John MacArthur says about this passage.
And, you know, this is his view of it.
It doesn't settle the issue.
But he says, this may describe volcanic eruptions that could certainly result
from the earthquake in verse five.
The steam and water thrown into the sky by such eruptions could easily condense into
hail and fall to the earth along with the fiery lava.
Dust and gases may so contaminate falling liquid water so that it
appears blood red.
So at least according to John MacArthur, he is thinking this probably is not literal blood,
but it looks like literal blood.
Erin.
If you think about the force of the volcanic eruption, we just were studying this in school, but the rocks
are flung at hurricane forces.
I mean, they're moving that fast and there are birds in the air and it could hit something and there could be literal blood
from the devastation of these rocks and these hailstones hitting animals.
Right.
Of course, God is perfectly capable of allowing it to rain blood.
I mean, that would be a supernatural event.
And I realize someone's thinking, well, I just can't picture that, you know.
Well, we don't really know, but God could do it is the point.
Yeah, well, okay.
And Jana mentions the plagues in Egypt.
So we should start thinking about that because there are some parallels here, right?
In the book of Exodus, Aaron.
I was thinking it was Moses, but I went back and I read it.
It was Aaron who turned the water in the Nile River and all the waters around there.
He turned it into blood.
I mean, it says he turned it into blood.
And in Exodus chapter nine, with the seventh plague that fell on Egypt, it was
hail mingled with fire or most assume it'd be lightning.
So there are some parallels with the plagues that rain down upon Egypt with what's happening in
Revelation.
Either way, this isn't just a really bad storm.
I mean, this is a supernatural storm like the world has never seen.
Yes. There's something to it, but in verse eight, after the seed becomes blood.
Yeah.
You notice it doesn't say it became as blood because that's what you would want to look for.
It was like blood or it was as blood.
That would tell you it's not literal, but when it says it turned into blood, I mean, it sounds
literal, but that's something you don't want to fight with people about, but it is a
question.
So what's happening here?
I mean, this is a real climate disaster, you could say.
So I don't know the first trumpet, second trumpet.
Are there weeks or days in between the trumpet judge weeks, months?
We don't really know.
But as time goes on in Revelation, things are going to start happening quicker and it's going to get more and more
intense.
Remember in Matthew 24, Jesus talked about the end times and he talked about birth
pangs, right?
Labor pains.
So when a woman is about to give birth, right?
The contractions, they start to increase in frequency and intensity.
And that's what's going to happen as you go forward in Revelation.
The judgments are going to start coming quicker and they're going to get worse and worse in just kind of escalates from there.
Now, this next thing, verse eight, notice it says something like a great mountain.
It doesn't say a great mountain was cast into the sea, something like.
So that is a signal that it's not literal.
So it says something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea
and a third of the sea became blood.
So, I mean, that's what it says.
Became blood.
Marcus.
Well, there's another time where John describing Jesus in the
garden of Gethsemane was in such an anguish of prayer that he was
sweating so severely.
It was like blood.
Some say, well, the blood vessels in your forehead are very close to the skin and so forth,
but it does say swept like blood.
So it's just so he might be saying, but he didn't say it was
like blood here.
He said it was blood, right?
I forget the verse.
I think it's in Revelation somewhere.
Probably we'll get to it.
A statement that like they killed the saints.
They shed the blood of the saints.
So God is going to give them blood to drink like it's their just do.
So that's what it sounds like.
It would be literal.
But anyways, this something like a mountain being cast into the sea.
Verse nine, it says a third of the living creatures in the sea died and a third of the ships were
destroyed.
Now, what is this mountain or something like a mountain?
The theories I've heard something like a large meteor.
That's one idea.
Some believe it's a nuclear explosion.
It's either way.
The first trumpet, a third of the vegetation is struck.
The second trumpet, a third of the sea is struck.
So is that do you guys have any notes in like maybe a study Bible that theorizes?
These are just theory.
We don't know exactly what it is, but John is doing his best to describe what
he's seeing in the vision.
I tend to think it's something like a meteor.
I mean, that's where I would lean.
This next thing that happens because the sea is struck.
Now it's the freshwater that God is going to strike.
This might be something like a comet falling to the earth.
Verse 10.
Then the third angel sounded and a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch,
and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.
Now, the reason why some people think it's a comet because, you know, as it moves, it's burning like a
torch, like it would have a tail behind it.
So that's why some commentators say it's a comet.
If that's the case, if it's big enough and it's dropping as it's going across
the sky, it could drop particles, chemicals, whatever,
to where it's actually covering a large part of the earth.
And that's how it's able to contaminate much of the fresh water.
Now, what is this star called?
You say, well, it says a star.
Yeah, but in the Bible, a star is not like we think of a star.
It's hundreds of millions of miles away.
A star would include a meteor, any heavenly body, basically.
There's the sun, the moon, everything else up there is a star.
What's it called?
What's the name of the star?
Wormwood.
Now, interesting side note.
Those of you who remember the nuclear meltdown, I think it was in the 1980s, Chernobyl,
right?
Was it 86?
When was it?
Anyways, in, I don't know if it's Russian, but the name Chernobyl
means wormwood.
So there's all sorts of, you know, different theories about that.
Of course it was a disaster and it did pollute the environment.
I remember, I think it was on the Jim Baker show.
I think I saw a clip of this and there, you know, there's this guy who had this theory about we're already living in
revelation because the, what is it?
Third trumpet.
That's already happened.
It happened back in the eighties.
So we're already in the middle of this thing.
I don't listen.
I don't believe that.
It's an interesting coincidence maybe, but yeah.
So just in case you hear that, I wouldn't make too much of it.
I looked it up today.
Like, does that really mean wormwood?
And then one site said, yes, that's what it means.
And then another site said, well, no, it means it's a different word, but it's something like
wormwood.
So anyways, I just thought it was interesting.
So either way, I believe it's something from outer space.
I guess it's something that John saw.
It came and it, it came down to earth because we're taking this literally, right?
So what's the position of revelation that we take as, as a church.
And I realized there might be, I say we, I mean, there could be someone in the room that takes a different approach
and I appreciate you not fighting me on this, but as a church, this is our position.
What do we call this position?
Futurist.
Yes, we are futurist as opposed to the other three, three ways revelation
is interpreted.
There's the preterist view, historicist view, and the spiritualist view.
So we're taking things literal.
We think revelation is, is future prophecy.
So if it says a star, yeah, it's something like that.
Meteor, comet, something falling from the heavens.
So I think we covered the four interpretations.
Do you remember that?
Did I cover the four interpretations back in chapter one with the preterist and everything who remembers me talking about it?
So, okay.
So I don't need to go over all of that again, but I did want to read because I
have this book.
Who has the, who's seen this?
I remember.
Marcus has one.
This is called revelation for views, a parallel commentary.
So I would recommend this book.
If you want to learn more about revelation, it gives you the futurist view.
And I don't even agree with everything that says, but, but it also gives you the other three viewpoints.
So every page it'll give you, okay.
This is what the historicists say.
This is what the preterists say for every verse, every passage, it gives all four viewpoints.
So I want to read to you what some of the other viewpoints are on this passage, but yes.
I've forgotten the author.
I was going to mention Steve Gregg.
The last name?
Steve Gregg with two G's or three G's G R E G G.
So we believe it says a star.
What is the star?
It's a star.
It's a meteor.
It's a comma.
Here's what the historicists say about Wormwood.
You ready?
They say that the great star of this vision is Attila the Hun.
Who's Attila that you, you know, Attila the Hun.
Did you learn about him and history?
They say the great star is Attila the Hun.
Now, how do you come to that conclusion?
Is that in the text?
It's probably not drugs, but okay.
It's not in the text.
They say the, how did they come to that conclusion?
They say the Romans knew very little about the Huns before 440.
Their emergence was sudden as a blazing meteor.
So the Huns broke on the scene and it was sudden like a meteor.
Therefore, Attila the Hun is Wormwood.
I mean, I'm trying to be kind here, but that's, I don't think that's true.
That is a classic case of eisegesis.
That's just a fancy word for you're reading your own ideas into the text of scripture.
That is not there at all.
So the historicists say that Wormwood is Attila the Hun.
What do the preterists say?
You ready for the preterists?
So historicists, what they do is they take the events of revelation.
And then they take a timeline of church history and they lay one on top of the other.
So they take events in revelation and they tie it to events throughout history.
That's how they do it.
The preterists say this all happened in the past.
So the second coming of Jesus was 70 AD when the Romans destroyed the temple.
That was Jesus coming back in judgment.
So historicists, or excuse me, preterists say it's in the past.
Here's what they say about Wormwood.
The turning of fresh water sources bitter and toxic may be in
part a literal result of decaying corpses that lay in the Sea of
Galilee and in the river as the result of war.
So when it says star, they interpret star as not a star.
The Roman army came in, slaughtered the Jews, and all these corpses laying
around polluted the water.
So that's Wormwood.
Again, I mean, that's not quite as far out as Attila the Hun, but is it in
the text?
What is in the text?
That it's a star because that's what it says.
So that's what we believe.
Here's the other viewpoint.
The spiritual interpretation.
They say the turning of pure waters, bitter and undrinkable might reflect the fact that God
in the Old Testament refers to himself as the fountain of living waters and
complains that his people have forsaken him for idols, which pollute their worship.
Jeremiah 2, 13 and 23.
When men prefer the bitter waters of idolatry to the fountain of living water, they will
receive these bitter waters with the fatal consequences which follow.
Now, while I don't hold to the spiritualist view of Revelation, that is much more reasonable
than the other two.
But still, you know, it's just not what it says.
So I believe this now more than ever.
The only right way to understand Revelation is to take it literally.
And if you take it literally, you have to hold to the futurist view.
Amen.
All right.
So let's speaking of sticking to the text, let's get back to the text.
You know, but one problem, though, with taking it, you know, allegorically or spiritually,
if the text doesn't mean what it says, what does it mean?
If Wormwood is not literal, how do you know the new heaven and new earth isn't literal?
Maybe Jesus coming back at all isn't literal.
Hey, maybe heaven isn't.
Maybe heaven is symbolic.
Maybe none of this is real.
Maybe it's all symbolic for something.
See, that's the road that once you get on this track of everything spiritual, everything's
allegorical, you take that too far.
Next thing you know, the resurrection of Jesus is allegorical and you have no savior.
And that's really what the mainline Protestant denominations have done with
the book of Revelation.
So why do they do that?
What's behind this desire,
this reinterpreting of Revelation so where it doesn't actually mean what it says?
You know, I can understand this because when you read Revelation and God is pouring out his wrath upon
planet Earth, I can understand somebody thinking, you know what, I really wish this
isn't real.
I really wish that this isn't going to happen or something like that.
Right?
The human heart doesn't want this to be true.
This is, I said I'd get into the text and I will in one moment, but this is an illustration.
Who saw the Super Bowl commercials, the one in
particular about Jesus called the He Gets Us ad campaign?
Um, basically he gets us, it's paid for to have a Super
Bowl commercial.
I mean, you have to pay like $3 ,000 a second, $3 ,000 for
15 seconds.
Well, it's going to be like 30 ,000.
It's going to be like 30 million for like one commercial or something.
Anyways, it was a three.
300 million.
I don't know.
Some crazy number, but there is this commercial and the whole premise is, you know, Jesus,
he gets us.
So it showed a woman outside of an abortion clinic and had Christian protesters in the
background.
Like they're the bad guys.
Like these protesters, they're not like Jesus.
And it had somebody washing her feet.
So, Hey, if, you know, if you're in that situation, then Jesus under, he, he gets you,
uh, had a, a priest washing the feet of a homosexual.
Um, so, you know, Jesus, he understands, uh, it had a police officer washing the
feet of, uh, like, uh, I don't know, some guy in an alleyway who looked a little
rough around the edges.
I mean, there's all these scenarios.
And at the end it says, Jesus did not preach hate.
He washed feet.
Now did Jesus preach hate?
Here's the thing.
You know, when people say things like that in a Christian context about
hate and being against hate, you, you know, what they're saying, Christians are a bunch of haters
and the real Jesus isn't like that.
My interpretation of that commercial and just the, the mainstream way Jesus
is presented when powerful people talk about Jesus, when Hollywood talks about Jesus,
their Jesus has no wrath.
He's fine with sin.
He's cool with whatever.
He has no wrath at all.
The book of revelation says the exact opposite.
Not only does God have wrath, he's going to pour it out and he's going to pour it out on the whole world.
And people just don't want that to be true.
Yes.
He, he gets us.
Yep.
Then you can say, yep, he gets us.
But if you buy into it, uh, you know, further what they're
saying is he condones and approves of all
these things that Christians disapprove of.
That's what it is.
Jews disapprove of, of, uh, abortion.
We do.
But this is the idea that, uh, Jesus, uh, has no wrath.
He is, he's yes, he does get us, but here's, here's what they always leave out.
Whether it's them, these mega churches that are punting the football across the city, all of these people,
the one thing they always leave out are two things.
Repentance is one thing you'll never hear about repentance and God's wrath.
You'll never hear about it because they're, they have an idol and the idol that they
worship, they call them God or Jesus, but he has no wrath and
revelation.
I don't know how they view revelation, but it's nothing you need to worry about.
But, and I don't think you have to worry about it.
If you're saved, you don't have to worry about it, but the world does.
It was, uh, the green family that owns or started Hobby Lobby.
They're the primary donors.
Of course, you know, I have to say this, that sometimes, um, this
happened with Chick -fil -A.
Like the guy who founded it may have been solid or someone who is a Christian.
They started an organization.
That organization is solid, but then they have kids and their kids take over or they have
grandkids.
So, and you know what, maybe they're, maybe they're rich and they're out of touch and they don't even know what is
happening with the money.
So I'm not, I don't want to place blame on any one individual.
Cause I don't know.
All I know is that the ad campaign is trash.
I'll say that.
Let's, let's get back.
Let's get back to the text.
Dearly beloved.
Verse 12.
And then the fourth angel sounded in a third of the sun was struck in a third
of the moon in a third of the stars.
So that a third of them were darkened.
A third of the day did not shine.
And likewise the night.
So the vegetation is struck.
The sea is struck the fresh water.
And now the heavenly bodies.
So one commentator says this, that God will supernaturally reduce the
intensity of the celestial bodies by one third.
The loss of solar heat will cause a radical drop in the biological
cycles.
The three woes to come one for each remaining trumpet blast.
Uh, basically all the, they say, although these four judgments are unimaginable,
the ones we've looked at, but the three that are to come are far, far worse.
So we'll, uh, cover that next week, but let's just finish with verse 13.
He says, and I looked and I heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven saying with a loud voice, whoa,
whoa, whoa.
So these are the three woes, the three remaining trumpets, whoa, whoa, whoa.
To the inhabitants of the earth because of the remaining blasts of the trumpet and of the three
angels who are about to sound.
Now I had said earlier, I'll just wrap it up with this.
The trumpet judgments are likely based on the trumpets in ancient Israel.
Again, when they were, when they would sound, it was either a call to worship
or a call to battle.
I find it interesting, even though God is doing battle with the inhabitants of the earth in
heaven, what's happening.
Every time something happens on earth, every time a judgment is poured down, what's going
on in heaven?
Oh God, you're so great.
Holy is it?
You know, God is being praised every step along the way.
So in conclusion, if a person refuses to heed the call to worship, if
you hear that trumpet that signifies worship, so to speak, you know, if you don't
worship the God of heaven, the person who refuses to worship the Lord is going
to be, if they're on earth at this time, they're going to be on the receiving end as
God is waging war with mankind.
You say, well, that's terrible.
My God would never do that.
Man, man fired the first shot.
This war between God and the inhabitants of the earth who started the war.
God created man, put them in a garden, gave him paradise on earth.
What did man do?
He rebelled.
He's been rebelling ever since.
And the book of revelation is finally God stepping in and saying enough is
enough.
But the good news of the gospel is if a person replaced their faith in Jesus, the
true Jesus, the true Jesus that calls people to repent and believe on him, we
will be spared from these judgments because as the scripture says, we are not
appointed to wrath.