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December 14, 2020
Dr. JOE MORECRAFT, author & pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, GA, who will address:
“The HOLY TRINITY & Its Implications On Salvation, Politics & the Structure of Human Society”
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I'm thrilled to have back on the program Dr. Joe Moorcraft, one of my favorite guests of all time. He is an author and pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia, and he is going to be addressing the Holy Trinity and its implications on salvation, politics, and the structure of human society.
And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back again to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III. Well, as we always do, especially for the sake of those who are hearing you for the first time, tell our listeners about Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.
With all of our efforts is evangelism.
Amen. Well, it fits the description of a church I would certainly want to be a member of if I was living in the Cumming, Georgia area, that's for sure. And if you want to look up more information about this church, folks, you can go to heritagepresbyterianchurch .com, heritagepresbyterianchurch .com.
Now, tell our listeners, for those of them who have not heard about your commentary on the Westminster Larger Catechism known as Authentic Christianity, an exposition of the theology and ethics of the Westminster Larger Catechism, and this very huge, really phenomenal contribution to the body of Christ comes, if I'm not mistaken, in eight volumes?
Yes, sir, it's eightvolumetary .com, and you'll know.
Amen. Well, it obviously means a lot to you to be bringing you to such an emotional state over this, and it blesses my heart to hear that. And I also want to read a plug for this commentary series, a commendation by someone who I am confident will be well known to our Reformed listeners, anyway, our theologically Reformed listeners, which would probably be the majority.
Dr. Joseph A. Piper, Jr., president of Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary in South Carolina, says, Every Christian who is serious about the Reformed faith and the Westminster standards should have and use this set.
It is much more than an exposition of the Larger Catechism. It is a thoroughly researched work that utilizes biblical exegesis, as well as historical and systematic theology. That is quite a commendation from somebody of the caliber of Dr. Joseph A. Piper, Jr.
Yeah, I really appreciate it.
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We have done quite a number of programs on the Holy Trinity and in particular its implications on salvation, but to my knowledge I cannot recall ever doing a program that involved the Holy Trinity's implications on politics and the structure of human society.
But if you could start the program with a biblical definition of the Holy Trinity, and obviously you have those who are in cults or in religions that deny the Trinity, they will say there is no such thing as a biblical definition, and they will scoff and say the word isn't even in there.
And I'm sure if they are hearing lectures or sermons or whatever they call the messages delivered to those that gather together in whatever religion they're a part of, or whatever they read as far as literature promoting their religion, I'm sure that they're just not quoting the Bible word for word.
In fact, if somebody is to preach, they're supposed to exegete the Bible. They have to use their own words as a minister. In addition, of course, to Bible reading aloud and so on, I'm not trying to undermine that, but even before you give us a definition of the Holy Trinity, Joe, isn't what I'm said a very important thing that is a guardrail of preventing the more easy derailment of people into heresy, the fact that we need to use words that have historically been developed to help us better understand the Bible in a clearer manner, that are using words that aren't necessarily in the Bible itself?
Yes, sir. About a trinity...
Even the modern Roman Catholic catechism says that it is the same God that they adore, which is obviously really seriously heretical. In fact, I had a Muslim years ago on my show to debate a Christian apologist, and I asked him, do you adore the same one true God as the Roman Catholics do?
He said, absolutely not.
Right. They understand it's a different God. Why? Because the God of Christianity is what, I mean, no human being in a million years would have...
Going back to just briefly why, or should I say biblical proof, that when we teach what is in the Bible, when we teach what is taught in the Bible, the need for using words that aren't necessarily all in the Bible is that an elder, for instance, according to the scriptures themselves, needs to be apt to teach.
It doesn't say he needs to be literate and able to read the scriptures aloud, which of course he would, but he needs to be able to teach, and teaching is more than just reading exactly the wording that's in the Bible.
It's exegeting it. It's drawing out of the Bible the truths that are contained in there, which would require, from time to time, using words that are not in there. Am I right? And civilianism, correct?
Yes, sir. That it's like God has three faces, and yet mysterious.
Yes.
There is a very well-known heretic who's an extremely popular author and speaker. In fact, he was at one time the best-selling Christian author in the United States, if not the world, and obviously I use the term Christian loosely, because that's the way he was described in this survey.
And his name is T .D. Jakes, and T .D. Jakes, when Trinitarians have urged him and even pled with him to be crystal clear on what he believes about God in reference to the Trinity, he has continually said, acting as if he is taking higher ground and more biblical ground, I will not be forced to use a man-made term like the Trinity, and this is what I believe about what and who God is, and when he describes it in writing, it's not the historical view that the Church has embraced for two millennia, over two millennia, it is a modalist understanding that you were just describing.
And I've even seen on websites of churches, sometimes I'll get, in fact I frequently get requests from folks to be guests on this program, and I have to vet them obviously, and I will typically go to a website and look up the church where they are a member, where they may be a pastor, an elder, what their church teaches, and when it comes to the description of God, you will find on some occasions, again, a refusal to use the word Trinity, and they may begin in a good way that sounds orthodox, but then as you read on, you see things begin to fall apart, and you will hear very often the Holy Spirit, for instance, not described in the language of a person, but of a force, and the Holy Spirit will be referred to it, rather than he.
In a way, not just one of the names that only apply to God, one Father, Son, and Holy Spirit of them, and we may only worship God.
In fact, we have to pick up right where you left off on the point of worship, because we have to go to our first break. If anybody wants to join us on the air with a question of your own, again, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com, chrisarnson at gmail .com.
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Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen, the host of I Am Sharp in Zion Radio. If you just tuned this in, our guest today is Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III, who is an author and pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.
Today we are addressing the Holy Trinity, its implications on salvation, politics, and the structure of human society. And right before the break, Dr. Moorcraft, you were beginning to discuss how each of the three co-eternal and equal persons of the Godhead receive worship.
And if you could, continue.
Yes, sir, I understand. We call God, given the names of God, we need to know about predominantly to God the Father, through God the Son, but to Christ many times during communion. Right before we read the scriptures, we pray to the Holy Spirit.
So, the implication of the doctrine of the Trinity is for the way we worship God. And the second is our understanding of salvation, as I'm sure you have had a lot of other. Do not be saved, salvation.
Now, it's interesting going back to the whole aspect of worship. I think one of the most clear proofs of the deity of Jesus, when you are having conversations with Jehovah's Witnesses or anybody else who has some form of view of God, of Christ, that they think is a high view of Christ, but it is actually a heretically low view of Christ, because Jehovah's Witnesses obviously do not believe in the deity of Jesus.
But one of the clearest proofs is the fact that he received worship, clearly, in the New Testament. It's inescapable, isn't it?
Preached on John. It's about this. And it was lying by the pool to get in it, because everybody, they made the Sabbath. You couldn't.
In fact, we got a pickup right where you left off there, because we have to go to our midway break.
Yes, sir.
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First of all, tomorrow we have returning to our program a dear friend of mine, Dr. Tom Askell, who is the Executive Director of Founders Ministries, which is a theologically reformed ministry within the Southern Baptist Convention.
They are a minority in that huge denomination and have battlegrounds on many fronts, and they continue to remain steadfast to the truth, not only the truth of the Bible, which is first and foremost, obviously, the truth of history, but the truth of their own denomination's founding.
That's why they call it the Founders Conference, because the Southern Baptist Convention, when it was founded, was entirely comprised of thoroughly reformed men, soteriologically. So it is quite amazing how that denomination, for the most part, as far as percentages, has abandoned these precious truths, and some of the pastors within that denomination have become enemies of these truths.
But Tom Askell has a big surprise that I don't even know what it is, but he is going to be announcing this big news tomorrow on Iron Sherpa's Iron Radio. Then on Wednesday, we have a guest that was actually referred to me by Dr. Joe Moorcraft, my guest today.
His name is Phil Kaiser, and I don't know yet what we're going to talk about. I'm going to have to straighten it out with Phil tomorrow, most likely. But he has degrees in education, theology, and philosophy.
He was ordained in 1987 and currently serves as Senior Pastor of Dominion Covenant Church, a Presbyterian church in Omaha, Nebraska. And he also serves as Professor of Ethics at Whitfield Theological Seminary and President of the Providential History Festival.
And Dr. Moorcraft, could you say a few more words about Phil Kaiser, since you were the one that urged me to interview him? He's one of my very favorite.
People. Oh, praise God. Well, that's this Wednesday, so mark down your calendar. In fact,.
I think I'm going to urge him to discuss December 25th, Jewish style, the ancient Jewish celebration, anticipating the birth of Christ. So that should be very timely. I don't know if he'll agree to that, but that's one of the booklets that he wrote.
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And if you could pick up where you left off, I believe you're talking about the pool of.
Bethesda. And just if you don't mind me inserting here, as you know, there are, though, libertarians.
Who are strongly pro-life. And I know that you even supported the presidential candidacy in the past of Rand Paul, or Ron Paul, I'm sorry, of Ron Paul, who is a very pro-life medical doctor.
Well, my answer to that is viva la inconsistency.
Well, they would say that the individuals being murdered are a part of the individuals whose.
Rights they're trying to protect. Yeah, that's exactly right. So praise the Lord for those libertarians who are not consistent in human society. And equal if they said the white race, that you are a racist by virtue of being a member of that group.
Or if you are a member of a non-white race, whatever you as an individual experience, you are.
In fact, we got to pick up because we got to go to our final break. It's gonna be a lot more brief than the others. And we'll pick up on that phrase tolerance there. Very frequently heard word today. Don't go away.
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Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen, and this is the final 15 minutes or so with our guest today, Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III, and we have been discussing the Holy Trinity and its implications on salvation politics and the structure of human society.
If you have a question, send it in immediately because we're rapidly running out of time. We do have a few people waiting to have their questions asked, but I wanted you to finish your thought on compromise, not compromise, tolerance, where people are demanding tolerance in a day and age when those very same people refuse to tolerate the existence of a voice for Christianity in the Bible in the public arena.
Okay, well, let's take some listener questions. We have Christopher from Western Suffolk County,.
Long Island, New York. In fact, he's asking a question that you actually confirmed. What he is asking about is a very good book last night during our private phone conversation on the phone. Obviously, every phone conversation is on the phone.
There's a redundancy there. He asks, Christopher asks,. I have heard about a book by Dr. James E. Dolezal titled All That is in God, Evangelical Theology and the Challenge of Classical Christian Theism.
Is this a book you would recommend if you have ever heard of it?
Magnificent it is. God loves you. He doesn't have...
Well, Christopher, you can also hear an interview I did with James E. Dolezal on that book. I did it, we conducted it on August 28th of 2017. And if you go to irontriponsirenradio .com, if you go to the podcast past shows section, type in D-O-L-E-Z-A-L, that's how you spell his last name, you will get that interview come up the audio link.
Also, you could purchase the book from cvbbs .com, Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service, one of our sponsors, cv as in Cumberland Valley, bbs as in Bible Book Service .com, cvbbs .com. We do have Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County, Long Island, New York, who says, just for the sake of clarification, in the event that any of the listeners misunderstood you, when you were trying to say we should not emphasize whether we are conservative or liberal when we are Christians, there are some who might wrongly think you are saying that we should be moderately conservative, but I know, having heard you on this program, that it has nothing to do with what you are saying,.
So please clarify. I think we should be king of kings, it's got to be that. Well, thank you, Ronald. We have Arnie in Perry County, Pennsylvania,.
Who says, I know that you just earlier were talking about not being conservative or liberal, but don't you think that the term conservative is helpful when we are actually addressing political areas outside of our own congregation or outside of our conversations with brothers and sisters in Christ, especially because labels can be helpful in differentiating us.
From other people? I'm not conservative, I'm distinctively Christian, and that's the way we must begin. If we're going to conserve anything, we want to conserve the Trinity and Christianity.
How would you respond to a person who you're trying to get people to vote for, let's say you have a candidate that you are supporting, and perhaps this candidate is a Christian, perhaps even a Christian from your own congregation, and you are trying to get people in the community to support him, how would you convince non-Christians to vote for this person when you're emphasizing, in fact, even exclusively saying, well, we want to preserve Trinitarian.
Christianity, so that's why we want... Well, that's a very good question, and a person... I remember that. And Jay Adams wrote, you never want to... I said, no, are you as an atheist trying to get me as a Trinitarian Christian elected because I know you as a Christian would preserve.
My wealth and the liberals are robbing me blind? Well, we are actually out of time, but that was an excellent way to end the program. And if anybody wants to find out more about our guest, Joe Moorcraft, go to heritagepresbyterianchurch .com, heritagepresbyterianchurch .com.
You could also go to comprehensivechristianity .com, comprehensivechristianity .com, where some of Dr. Moorcraft's books are published and offered. And then don't forget about westminstercommentary .com, westminstercommentary .com, where you can purchase Authentic Christianity, an Exposition of the Theology and Ethics of the Westminster Lord of Catechism in eight volumes, is it?
Yes, sir. Eight volumes. Well, thank you so much, Dr. Moorcraft, for being such a superb guest again. Thank you, everybody who listened today, and I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you are a sinner.