August 31, 2018 Show with Josh Buice on “What Is Social Justice” PLUS Eli Ayala on “Angels, Demons &Satan: What Are They? What Are Their Roles, Powers & Limitations?”

What Social Justice Is and Why It Is Not the Gospel

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Lake City, Florida and the rest of humanity living on the planet earth. We're listening via live streaming at ironsharpensironradio .com. This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Friday on this last day of August 2018, October 31st and I am delighted to have two returning guests on the program today, one per hour.

The first hour we are going to be blessed with the presence of Pastor Josh Bice. He's an author, a conference speaker and pastor at Praise Mill Baptist Church of Douglasville, Georgia. He's also the founder and director of the G3 Conference which we'll be talking about a little bit since I will be heading there, God willing, in January to man another Iron Sharpens Iron exhibitors booth there.

And our first hour the topic will be what is social justice. We've dealt with this issue a number of times but I think it's so important that it bears being repeated as a topic by different guests and it seems to be pressing very heavily on the minds and hearts of a lot of my friends who have been guests on this program who request to speak on this issue.

The second hour my friend Elias Ayala returns to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio. He is on the board at the Historical Bible Society founded by my friend and client Dan Buttafuoco of the law firm of Buttafuoco and Associates and he's going to be speaking about angels, demons, and Satan.

What are they? What are their roles, powers, and limitations? So that's during the second hour but it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Pastor Josh Bice. Good to be with you Chris.

And for our listeners who have not yet heard you on the program and they may be unfamiliar with Praise Mill Baptist Church of.

Georgia, why don't you tell our listeners about that church? Yeah sure. And I have the privilege not only to show where my wife and I grew up as children. Praise God and now tell us.

Something about this exciting conference that I will be attending for the third time, God willing, in January. I don't know how many times in total you have done this but tell us about the G3.

Conference. Yes, so the G3 conference is an annual theology conference in Atlanta each January and for the theme you might say. And so we're going to be looking at things related to what it means to carry out the Great Commission, not only individual congregation, and how we should...

And I will be announcing different names who will be speaking at that conference in a bit and also you're going to be hearing some ads by some of my friends who will be speaking there including James White and Phil Johnson and Todd Friel who have all created ads for the G3 conference specifically for Iron Sharpens Iron Radio.

Well you wanted to discuss today social justice and you have as the exact theme, what is social justice? So that's a good way for me to start.

The interview. Yeah, absolutely. So social justice, we need to... Is it really... I think one of the things that we hear in Christian circles often is that, you know, if you really want to get attention idea or whatever it might be, then you talk about the fact that this is a quote-unquote.

So I think that, you know, it should be asked from the very beginning, is social justice a part of the gospel? And so my answer is going to be simply that it's not. This movement in and of itself is not really...

We think about social justice, we hear a lot of people talking about Oprah. We've held back flourishing or we've held back, you know, women from... So we've seen this type of idea and this language that's become very popular in our American culture for many years, moving its way through the civil rights movement and that type of thing.

And I'm not suggesting at all, by the way, thing to do with that or that it was negative or that it was sinful. There are lots of ideas and very much alive and well in the civil rights movement that have become in vogue methodologies, type of idea that you have to apologize to the women, to apologize to different...

Apologize to even what's now being termed, which I believe to be a false category, the LGBT and held them back from flourishing. When we think about social justice, this movement is a very pop's clothing, if that makes sense.

Yes. Well, let me start off a follow-up question.

With the LGBTQ category. The uprise of social justice rhetoric seems to be coming from within theologically reformed circles, especially those who happen to be our black brothers and sisters in Christ, although certainly many who have more melanin content than you or I do are not at all a part of this.

And we thank God for men like Daryl Bernard Harrison and Dwayne Atkinson, and I could go on and on listing names of brothers who want no part of this movement. But would you say that this LB, or I always get the acronym messed up, but LGBTQ, I think it's what it is, are the brethren from our circles, or should I say those that are closely related theologically as far as the doctrines of grace, as far as those who seem to be predominantly coming from very conservative, reformed Presbyterian backgrounds, are they the ones who are also including LGBTQ as a category of people that need to be flourishing in the church?

Well, I was criticizing it at one point. I think the problem becomes when you have really good voices, really good, capable theological minds that have become silent about these very matters. And so when you have something like the Real Presbyterian Church, which was advocating the very ideas of queer culture and redeeming queer culture and the whole idea of LGBT Christianity, there was an awful lot of silence when it came to that very conference, when there could have been very capable minds who would have spoken up and said, you know what, not only is this not good, but it's very unhelpful and it's an unbiblical category in and of itself.

So again, once we start going down the road of questions, if we're going to remain silent about the category of LGBT Christianity, if we're going to remain silent about the danger of that type of idea, then we're not helping the oppressed, we're actually aiding their oppression.

When you say that to begin to champion the cause of the LGBTQ community, so-called, that we are further oppressing them, are you saying that we are aiding and abetting in their being oppressed by this very sin that dominates their life, the very sin that they choose to identify their lives with?

They are attaching it to their Christian identity, just like someone might say, I am an Italian Christian, I am a Yugoslavian Christian, I'm a Swedish Christian, and I'm a gay Christian. Are you saying that we're aiding in their oppression by the fact that we are softening the warnings to them that they must repent, flee from, and abandon connection to that thought, life, and behavior?

Yes, absolutely. So in other words, if we're.

Going to allow them to continue to be identified as a quote-unquote gay Christian, I think that that's troublesome in inviting light in darkness. We're allowing them to remain in darkness, and so our job is to be people of the light rather than the darkness.

Again, if it's not good as far as our political maneuvering is concerned, then that's problematic. We need to be helping these people by pointing them to the gospel of Jesus.

Amen. Well, if we, for now anyway, remove the LGBTQ aspect from it, you're really talking about people calling for social justice in regard to the color of their skin or their ethnicity, and the battle cry, it seems to be, is that our society, in America especially, is dominated by a white supremacist attitude that is dominating the Caucasian culture, and that even would include the Caucasian element within evangelicalism, which is probably numerically the dominant segment of the body of Christ, even though I agree with my friend, our mutual friend Dr. James R. White, that we have to be colorblind, and we have to not be thinking of ourselves as white and black Christians and so on, but if you're going to bring this into the discussion on social justice, we have to speak in terms like that.

So basically, this is a call to us, who happen to be pale-faced, to have some kind of a group repentance, and even individual repentance, over the sin of racism, even if that has not manifested itself in our lives individually in any particular alarming way.

I mean, we are all sinners, including our black brothers and sisters and every other color and ethnicity within the body of Christ. We're all sinners, and some of that sin might be involving the pride of our own color or ethnicity in a way that causes us to look down on somebody else who differs from us.

That may be a remnant sin that's lingering around in some measure, but it doesn't dominate our lives. We have to recognize that we have to repent of every sin that we know of that we are truly guilty of, but this is being exaggerated to the point where, by virtue of us having a lack of melanin content in our skin, in other words, the fact that we are light-skinned, we are automatically to be viewed as being guilty of racism in such a manner where it actually affects how we act and think in a major way.

Am I right on that? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think you're tracking.

Down the right road there. I think as a cat of itself, again, I would like to use the train illustration, so I find this to be helpful when explaining the... I think if you have the engine okay, that's the agenda, that's the movement, and then the first shipping container behind the engine is going to be race relations.

It's going to be the whole racism issue. The second shipping container is going to be the oppression of women, and that's where we're going to carry in is on the egalitarianism and all is going to be the LGBT Christianity, which is, again, a false category, but all three of those crying out victim or crying out, and so now what we must do is we must aid in by reversing their oppression, so we empower them positions based upon the fact that, you know, we should have a certain number of people that have, you know, a different denominational rank, a certain number of women who make up denominational ranks, and we should not hold them back from, you know, flourishing and using all of their gifts for the glory of God.

Very much alive and well, but now coming on the heels of that would be the gay Christianity crowd that says, hey, now we want a seat at the table as well. Higher issues through evangelicalism, this is not a Presbyterian thing, this is an evangelical issue.

It must be addressed. All of these complex issues related to are very much alive and well and very much near the nerve center within many local churches, and that's the issue of women and their leadership role.

All right, well, I think that, to be honest, that we have to recognize that the problems that we have in our present day in regard to race relations do have some kind of root in the fact that there was a systemized, legalized, and established racism in this country going back to the 70s and, of course, escalating even more severely prior to that, especially, you know, the 60s, the 50s, and earlier, where you had, you know, Jim Crow laws, where you had, you know, I was born not long after blacks in many states in this country received the right to vote.

So, I mean, we can't be blind to the fact that there was a sin, and I'm not saying that the sin is vanished from the earth, it's just that we have to remember it's not just a sin that white people are guilty of, but how would you say, for instance, that this issue would be properly, as a Christian, responded to, especially back then, where the gospel was not eclipsed, or clouded, or muted, or twisted?

Because, to be perfectly honest, it's obvious that many of the white churches in the United States were sinning, either by being militantly opposed to the equality of our black brothers and sisters in Christ and others of different colors, or they were cowards who just didn't want to come out and publicly say that.

And, you know, people would actually complain to Martin Luther King Jr., who, I agree with you, that he should not be considered, by any stretch of the imagination, a Bible-believing Christian, because there's no clear, irrefutable evidence that he ever repented of the heresies that he held to very strongly, such as a denial of the duty of Christ, a denial of the substitutionary atonement of Christ, the bodily resurrection, and so on.

But, if you're just talking about the civil rights issue, white pastors and clergy would complain to him that he was trying to move things too fast, that he had to be more patient with civil rights rising up in our country in a more gradual fashion.

And he was basically saying that, I don't even want to be doing this, but it's because you have remained silent about it, and still remain silent, that it compels me to do this. And, of course, that was a paraphrase.

But, I mean, on a human level, if you remove Christian theology from it, you could see that as a reasonable response from King to the white pastors that he was communicating with, couldn't you? Yeah, I mean, I want to be.

Very clear. I don't believe that, think that they accomplished some really good things. I think that there were necessary, by and large now, way on the other side of seeing now a bi-ethnic, you know, lots of really good leaders who have, some not so good, in my opinion, but at least, you know, that they weren't marginalized or held back to their skin color.

And so what I would simply state is, almost as if we're back to that. When I look at the evangelical culture at large, it's difficult sometimes for us to look at the entire culture, because when I look at, say, the Baptist circles, I don't see that we're holding back people of color, or black men, or even women, from serving in their God-given roles.

I simply see that we're trying to be biblical and stand on specific... I don't think that we need to apologize to women. I don't think that we need to apologize that we've not allowed them to speak at conferences to mixed audiences, or to preach on, you know, at a gathered church, applying the office of elder.

I don't think we need to apologize for that. So I think that, back to your initial question, Chris, I think that the answer, called savvy, or the different methodologies, or intersectionality, or anything else, I think that the answer is the gospel of Jesus.

You see a need to try to utilize these different methodologies to create this unity, or to create this lack of oppression within evangelical circles. I see that the scriptures alone are sufficient.

I agree, and I do believe that especially the pastors that preceded us for decades, who happened to be white, many of them, I'm not going to broad brush, I'm not going to be guilty of the same thing that's happening today in the social justice movement, with broad brushed accusations, but many of the pastors from behind pulpits were not boldly preaching against the wickedness and sin of racism, just as we need to preach out against abortion, and homosexuality, and every other sin that blots the reputation of this nation, and the church in this nation.

But the issue that I find troubling is that I happen to believe, and I'm assuming that you would agree with me, I'm pretty confident you would agree, that racism is a very wicked and evil sin. In fact, if it dominated somebody's life, I would question very seriously that they were saved if they were claiming to be a Christian, especially when you're reaching severe levels of racist thought and activity, like somebody actually being in the Klan, or the Kinnist group, or one of these other racist organizations.

But the thing that troubles me is because of the fact that I believe racism is so evil and vile, I am troubled that many of the voices from our black brothers and sisters who are championing social justice, they are using, in my opinion, very often racism itself to combat racism.

Is that too far of a leap that I just made? I think that you can easily turn this whole thing into a reverse racism type of agenda. I'm not saying that's the case for everyone involved, and I'm certainly not stating that that's the case for even the most well-known voices, but I am suggesting that as this thing continues to go unchecked, that you're going to see lots of other people that are going to swing this thing so far to the opposite direction that it's going to.

Land in a reverse racism position. All right, we have to go to our first station break now. If anybody wants to join us on the air with a question of your own for Pastor Josh Bice on social justice, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com.

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Social Justice, White Privilege, and Biblical Justice

And uh how is the social justice uh movement different from a very common tenet within reformed christianity that has existed for centuries in varying degrees. Uh there there is even disagreement amongst uh reformed christians on what level of activity.

Uh changing the culture uh involves. Uh but you have you have long had an idea that the gospel is not only intended to save lost souls uh to get individuals to repent of their sin to cling to their one and only hope jesus christ and his redeeming death on calvary and his resurrection as their one and only hope for eternal life and to see multitudes rescued out of darkness and brought into eternal life by christ through his grace.

Uh but there has also been a very common thread amongst calvinists and reformed christians that when these people are indeed regenerate that we have evangelized and that have been raised up to new life by christ himself by his grace that cultures do change.

That uh i can still remember my friend peter jeffrey from wales who is now in eternity with christ. But he was speaking uh at the congregation where i was a member of the welch revival. Where in wales you had a revival in the 19th century and perhaps early 20th century where uh after miners coal miners were getting saved uh they were returning the tools that they stole from working in the mines.

And there were so many tools uh that were being returned that there was a problem by the the mine owners on where to store the extra tools that came up that appeared out of nowhere because of the fact that people were returning them.

But there was there is culture change when when people get saved especially when they begin becoming saved in mass. How is that relationship to the gospel different from racism when we are preaching the gospel.

How is this social justice movement different from what i just said.

Well i think that one of the main reasons that it's different we have is very much uh interested in in utilizing political ideas and methodologies so like intersectionality which is a particular method that uh was coined uh years ago in the late 80s by a woman named kimberly crenshaw and her idea was that as she was trying to aid the oppressed uh homosexual woman a lesbian she was suggesting that there is a woman in our culture today that just by the mere fact that she's a woman that she is.

And then if you add and now if you add a first woman is black but now she's also a lesbian where they intersect that intersection unity of oppression for that particular individual. Which of who that individual is according to kimberly crenshaw when you have that type of idea that's circulated in the culture that's now being brought into evangelicalism that suggests well because i happen to be now i need uh that much more liberation so i need you to liberate me and so their voice now takes priority over everyone else's voice and now we have a movement that's helping that individual sectionality.

Or do we need the christ. So i appeal to paul and we see him to the jews and their privilege to apologize because of the fact that we were born white in america and the question what do we see paul definitely privileged people that they had the or and given the commandments they had been given for life to the gentiles and they you know that that they walked past them they ignored them they they refused to minister to them and so born with them apologized for their privilege he asked them and caused them to repent of not carrying out the great commission which again the covenant of abraham was never just for when we think about the reason that it's different from the example that you gave it's simply because of the fact that we're not alone.

Now we're trying to think about these political maneuver and i believe that the script question from susan margaret.

In dauphin county pennsylvania she said i have heard that john macarthur is identifying this social justice heresy as one of the greatest attacks upon the gospel of jesus christ in modern history. Would you concur with that.

I would absolutely agree that i i think.

In the last one to two hundred years. Yes absolutely. Now could you explain a little.

Bit in more detail why that is. Yes so the reason is simply because of the fact that it's such a.

Fluid apologizing for preaching a truncated gospel and they're suggesting that they haven't preaching to the gospel yet. And the idea of woke is this idea that if you don't see systemic racism in evangelical circles then you simply haven't been awakened to the reality that it's there now.

Let's just be clear uh there is no system that's made up of sinners. But we must also be clear that the system of evangelicalism or denominational life what whatever denomination or group of churches that you might associate with is not uh there are individuals who might be guilty of personal racism but not as a as a system you know uh for layers of complexity moving together in a very fluid complex.

Because now you have to ask yourself is the gospel enough or must we now add something other than the gospel be made right. You might have issues and so now we have a whole list of questions that must be addressed.

And so do we need a new definition of complementarianism. And so this is not just the gospel itself that's under attack but it's the whole foundation of the church in the crosshairs. But now you have the other issues surrounding the gospel such as the role of women and is lgbt christian agenda.

That's.

I have uh let's see here. We have ronald in eastern suffolk county long island new york and ronald says shouldn't one of the brightest red lights that is flashing before our eyes. As far as a warning about this social justice movement is that it seems to be mirroring what the pagan society around us is complaining about and what they are charging society with especially those who happen to perhaps have white skin.

Shouldn't that be a troubling factor when the most rebellious against christ who are among us are seemingly saying the same things as the just.

Social justice warriors champions are saying yeah yeah absolutely. Um again i think that what is the definition. And then who's making this statement. Are they still within the orthodox camp. But they're just making some.

But yeah i think that we need to evaluate and uh examine everything that's being stated through the lens of the gospel to be very clear as to where our.

Land on this very amen. And we have. Uh let's see. John and banger main says. Would you agree that one of the problems with the social justice rhetoric is that it forces those who happen to be white into a corner where we sound as if we are proud and arrogant and self-righteous merely by defending ourselves that we are not racist.

Yeah i think that that's again one of the.

Massive problems with the social justice movement is the idea that there is this uh that there's white privilege. And let's just be honest when we start to champion that idea we have at that very moment we have created another category called black privilege.

Because right you have when you have someone that says uh there's this category of white privilege that's driving uh the the political system in america and the evangelical system uh in our particular context go with that.

We need to be very clear that at that moment you have now elevated another skin color. Their voice now takes priority over everyone else because now they're the victim. And so i like to say it like this in evangelical circles has now replaced theology and that's a serious serious problem.

And then we've already even seen very recently in fact maybe yesterday or the day before uh how this is actually coming to fruition with asian folks where asian folks have lost opportunities in ivy league schools and so on because merely because of the the color of their skin where black applicants were given a privilege over them simply because of race or skin color.

Yeah yeah again that's what we call affirmative action. That's uh taken on religious clothing so to speak. And so we see that in evangelicalism today where certain schools and institutions are giving priority to applicants simply because of the fact that they happen to have now let me be clear about this.

Um i don't think that we should ever hold back individuals. And for an individual who is now promoted to a position or elected to a position they have to. Honestly was it because of the because of the it's given me that has placed me in this particular position at this time in history.

And so we certainly don't need that conversation. It's not helpful.

It's very confusing. Well uh i'd like you to uh in two minutes time really wrap up what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners in regarding to this theme uh and then i want you to uh give another plug to uh the g3 conference.

Uh i'm very excited about it as i always am but perhaps even specifically uh in regard to those applying to register for uh exhibitors booths because i really think that this above all past g3 conferences there will be opportunities uh that are really overwhelming and exciting uh because of the fact that you're expecting between four and five thousand people in january.

But but before we go to that if you could summarize what you most want etched in hearts and minds of our listeners about the social justice issue.

Well i just want to simply drive home the point our god is a just god. Okay. So if we want an accurate definition of justice we need to look at the scriptures. We need to see. The revelation of to see that god is opposed has given us an accurate understanding of what justice looks like.

And so when he saves us through christ jesus when he saves us through the blood we need to understand that we have received grace but yet the justice was fulfilled in the death blow of his. So we need to understand what a proper understanding of justice looks like.

And then now as we're called to be people who love our neighbor as ourselves we're called to be people who stand against oppression. But let's be clear the gospel of jesus christ is what brings us together and bands us together within the church of jesus christ.

Don't need the political maneuvering we don't need intersectionality. We don't need to embrace ideas such as woke or lgbt christianity or any of these other things simply need to be champions and heralds of the good news of jesus christ.

And so as we think about the gospel itself god sending his son dying upon the cross jesus coming to justice being that salvation is ours in jesus alone champions of the gospel of jesus christ. And then this whole itself i believe is built upon a foundation that is certainly not the rock anyone else apologize for what the scripture is actually oh praise god uh we have.

A question from. I usually don't um give out full names but since it's a pastor i figured i'd give the full name a pastor mike reed of grace fellowship church in davenport iowa. He says i praise god for the clarity with which my brother josh speaks to this threat to the gospel as well as your boldness in combating it.

Brother chris would you not agree that racism is a worldview that cannot be acknowledged in the church. Um i'm not sure if he means that should not be tolerated uh because obviously racism exists in the church as much as we are saying that it's not the the dominant sin of our country or church that it's claimed to be.

But i mean i'm assuming he means.

Tolerated by. Yeah that's the way i take it as well. I would simply state that i agree with that. I think it's a worldview i think it's a sinful um uh manifestation of the depravity of the human heart.

And i i think that whether it be the idea of first idea of seeking to become so that you can have a privileged voice uh i think both ideas are wrong and they should not. Well uh if you could.

Give a quick plug to the g3 conference and tell people how they can register also not only to attend but for an exhibitor's booth and what some of the criteria for that would be. Because i'm i'm so excited about it i can't contain myself i'm not exaggerating.

Yeah great. So um yeah we invite.

Uh various ministries or institutions uh denominational entities or you might say colleges or seminaries if you have a specific ministry the website you can look for. Staff will meet periodically uh over the fall month so we're email but again i think they provide not only in current missions within the praise god and that's g3 conference .com.

G3 conference .com. Also if you happen to be uh visiting or you live near uh douglasville georgia and you want to visit praise mill baptist church or if you have family friends or loved ones that live near there or are visiting there go to praise mill .com p-r-a-y-s mill .com and that's the website for praise mill baptist church.

I am so thankful uh pastor josh that you were on the program today and i look forward to many many future returns from you as a guest on iron sharpens iron. Thank you chris. It's been a privilege brother.

God bless you. And don't go away folks. We have elias aiella coming up in the second hour of the program uh eli aiella is going to be talking about angels demons satan uh what are their roles their powers and their limitations.

I think a fascinating topic awaits us so make sure you stay with us. And if you have questions on angels demons and satan send in an email to chris arnzen at gmail .com. C-h-r-i-s-a-r-n-z-e-n at gmail .com please give us your first name city and state and country of residence.

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