Our 2nd Blood Red Church nominee Joe Domico | Ep. 12

Josiah and the Need to Tear Down the High Places

By the way, my firstborn son's name's Josiah. We like him because he was the only one that tore down the high places. Yes. Because all the other guys left them up. And like, you know, there's all different theories about what happened, what they did at the high places.

But the bottom line, it was bagging. Yeah. So it had to go.

Introduction to Joe D'Amico and His Ministry

And welcome to Tearin' Down High Places. My name's Average Joe. Got our normal pastors here with us. Pastor Jeff. Pastor Tim. And today we have a Red Church pastor coming in. Joe D 'Amico, welcome to Tearin' Down High Places.

Nice to meet you, sir. It's good to be here. Yeah, yeah. So we're gonna talk a little bit about Joe's church. Let me introduce you real quick. He's from Gateway Christian Church in Woodbury, New Jersey.

If you do wanna reach out to him, you're gonna love this email address. It's jdomico, J-D-O-M-I-C-O at inyourfaith .org.

In your faith. What a wonderful. In your F-A-I-T-H. Yes, yes. Very, very well said. No list. In your faith.

That's fantastic. I know. Where did that email address come from? How'd you come up with that?

We were just talking around to some radio guys, friends of mine. And they said in your faith would be because they think I'm from New York, even though I'm from South Philadelphia. And they said, in your faith.

So I don't remember if it was me or somebody else, first one that said faith, but that clicked as soon as I heard it. And that was about, wow, in about 1998.

And now it's become a radio show.

Yeah, that's what we used to use for our cassette tapes. I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember that. And then new CDs. And then for the radio show and all of our media ministry. Where can people listen to you on the radio?

They can listen to me on Hope FM Network. Here locally, it's 90 .5 FM and 4 .30 PM daily.

And also 94 .9 in Mount Laurel. It's right on top of that tower. Right up there.

They got two stations over here. Yeah, I can reach that from Westville. Oh yeah, oh nice. And what the viewers may not know.

Is I got saved through Hope FM listening to preachers on the radio. And one of those preachers was Joe D 'Amico. I used to listen all the time in your faith. So, you know, it's funny when you listen to people on the radio, you have this like vision of what they look like.

I thought Joe was a lot younger and better looking. I thought he was too.

Better looking boy, wow.

It's an honor to meet this guy because I don't know exactly who, you know, I got saved. I was listening to a bunch of preachers but God was working in my life at that time. I was driving a truck and listening to Hope FM.

And, you know, one day I hopped in the truck and was listening to these preachers. They would come on one after another. And then one day I hopped in the truck unsaved and hopped out of the truck saved.

Wow. I would say the primary guy I listened to was Joe D 'Amico. Wow.

Salvation Through Radio and the Gospel

So, yeah. I got saved, listen, well, actually, I mean, initially the first time I got saved, well, first, when I first was coming to the Lord, I mean, I decided to read through the Bible and I don't know what caused that.

I stole my roommate's, he had a stolen Gideon's Bible. Was it King James? And I didn't understand. And now I speak fluent King James. Back then, because I have a lot of King James only friends. So I only speak to them in King James.

These and nows. So I started reading through it. I did dictionary reading through it. And then one day I was really, I smoked angel dust and it was really strong. And I used to work in, at the time in Atlantic City at the Playboy Hotel Casino, I was a supervisor.

And, you know, we just got done work and I used to drive back and forth down the expressway. By the time I got home, I thought I was in on Mars or something. And I went into my parents' house because I lived in Brigantine.

I went to my parents' house in the attic. I turned on this Christian radio show, WZZD 990 AM. And I heard the word for today with Pastor Chuck Smith. And I heard it says recorded live at Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa, California.

And I was like all freaked out. What's that mean, recorded live? And so I listened to it and I made God a deal. If he got me down, if I got my brain back, I would serve him for life. And I was not faithful to that.

And then about three months later, I was watching the 700 Club. And that was about early June, 1983. And Ben Kinchler, the old host, was on there. And I was clicking, I was about to click him off. And he said, don't you dare turn that.

And I dropped the thing because I was probably intoxicated at that time too. Because I was an alcoholic at the time. And I dropped it and I listened to the gospel and I prayed with him right there. And that's the first time I ever heard the gospel.

I mean, I grew up in Catholic Church. I went to Mass every Sunday from when I was zero to 18. Now, you know, my father did not allow not showing up because you felt sick or you were up too late. So, and I went to Catholic school for 12 years.

But I never heard the gospel until that. It was real clear. He told the gospel, Jesus died for your sins. According to scripture, you're buried, raised third day. If you believe and trust and cling to and rely on that, you'll have forgiveness of sins.

And I prayed there. And then I got, no, I guess I got radically saved. I went, I threw everything out. I quit smoking and doing all drugs and alcohol in that same day. And then, you know, I went all the way to Philly, to church, the South Philadelphia church, where I had friends that went to.

And then started, I went to Calvary Chapel, Philadelphia, because I heard them on the radio. And I drove all around. I used to go to like Bible study, different Bible study every night of the week. I mean, I went Monday.

I didn't go, no, there were meetings for drug addicts. So I just went to Bible studies. And I met, my wife was one of the people that used to come. We were just friends and we fell in love and we got married.

And then I was peeling potatoes. Well, after a long story, after I got out of the Atlantic City casino industry, because I promised God I'll stay there. Hey, I'll use the money for you, Lord, so, you know, but I knew it was immoral.

I used to get players, prostitutes, and drugs. I mean, I used to get cocaine and hookers for a place. That's what we used to do. I mean, cause people think it's a nice clean. It's no big deal. If I go down and put a couple of quarters in, it's corrupt from the top down.

And so I was on the dead game, dead crabs game. And that means there's nobody there. It's just the dealers. And my dealer friend who I used to hang out with was telling him I read Isaiah 53. I was all excited about it.

That was Messiah. And he said, yeah, I read that before. I don't believe that. And like, that was the end of it. The next thing I knew about two hours later, I got, I already had my break that hour and they asked me to go up to the casino office.

I thought I was getting a raise or something. And I went up and I was getting written up for affirmative action for the persecution of a Jewish kid. And I said, and I was a CEO of management and he was a dealer.

So that was like a big deal. And I said, I would never do that. And I ripped it up and they called security and the Lord told me don't look back. And I went out, I went out in the boardwalk and I called the pastor of the church I was going to, told him they'd been praying and fasting for me to get out of there.

And I thought that they wanted me to get the money, you know, but.

If there's somebody listening to this podcast right now that's been saved, but they're still entangled in something, let this be a word to them to make the break right now, just like Joe did. Did you ever look back?

Did you ever wish you had gone back to the money and the? Never, no.

I saw the evil in it. Like I said, I used to, I was compromising, you know. And where I lived at my house, we rented a house. I had roommates and they were free basing cocaine all the time, which I did right before, right before I got saved, by the way, before crack came out.

It was about a month till it came to Atlantic City. If that would have happened, I probably would have been a crack head. Because those guys all, they're all still messed up. And so I started reaching out to friends.

I got a lot of my cousins and friends saved. I got in big trouble with my family because we're a conservative Italian family and the Catholic church is the one true church. And no, I was real tactical when I, I read Dave Hunt books, right?

And I was calling it the whore of Babylon and the woman that rides a beast and they didn't really appreciate that.

So you were like Paul in terms of, in Galatians, he says, I wish they would go ahead and emasculate themselves. Yes. You were not afraid of the strong rhetoric. I wasn't. Yeah.

Except when I got caught. I got caught at my grandmother's house. My grandmother was an old Italian, went to mass every day. And I paid one of my cousins $50 to throw the idol of Mary that was on the front lawn into the lake across the street, which was really just a swamp.

And before he did it, he cheesed me out and I got, he, then he did it. And then I got, I was like the devil. Like, how could you do that?

Yeah. You were like Gideon tearing down the idols. So when I was a young man, still contemplating all these things, who I was listening to was this guy. Wow. And I. Because he's in the Roman Catholic.

Yeah. And I respected what he was saying so much that like, I was encouraged to start living like that. So you would share stories like that. And I'm like, wow, this guy is like still going, you know?

So I was like, so encouraging to hear. A lot of trouble with my family though.

I have to say that. Now my, I was drug dealing and doing all kinds of things. And my mom, I was an angel. I never did anything wrong. Cause she never noticed that. And I never did anything in front of her.

When I got baptized, that's what it was. When I got baptized, I was so excited. I was like, you know, I came home and I told my parents, my mother, it was on the phone. She took the wired phone and threw it at me.

She never did anything like that. Get out of my house, you blank, blank. And like, how dare you disrespect? And I thought it was like the greatest thing in the world. And yeah. And my dad would say, you know, we have Jesus in our church too and all.

But what was really neat is about four years later, my wife got to lead my dad to the Lord. She was out walking in the town and the Lord told, directed her to go to the house. And she just went there.

She's prompted her and she went and he was trying to read the Bible. And he, and so she explained him being born again, John chapter three, and they read and he accepted the Lord. That Sunday, because Gateway had already started, we were meeting in the YMCA in Woodbury and that my dad wanted to be baptized.

And so I went, you know, got the lifeguard and said, before you guys open, I'm gonna have a quick baptism. And my dad got baptized and my mom really was upset. Like really, she couldn't believe it. He did something so horrible, even though he was a gambler and whatever else, all of his life, she couldn't believe he did that.

Then very next day, he was driving home from a store called Hechinger's, like an Home Depot. And he had a massive stroke and he still lived after that. But he was never the same, but he had, before he was unable to do everything, he made that decision to follow Jesus.

And it was really powerful. Wow, that is powerful. My mom stayed with Rome till the end. She used to come to church, at our church, to support me once a month, but you know, she never responded. And my, you know, all my sisters, I have five sisters, three brothers, and the five sisters all think she's an angel saint.

And because she went, she died in 2005. And it's not, you know, that's how they are. I mean, and, you know, they believe that she, my dad really isn't, because look, my dad used to do this and this. But I said, but he was forgiven of all the sin.

And they just couldn't receive that. So that's the offense of the cross. Yeah.

Family Opposition, Catholicism, and the Offense of the Cross

Wow. And listen, although, I want to say this, we were a real conservative Catholic family. Like, you know, living together before he got married, that was still unheard of. But what happened was, I had a sister who was married to a police officer.

And he was a real nice guy, except, you know, she wanted, they wanted to have a baby, and he didn't want to have any babies. But the police officer got a younger girl pregnant while I was still married to my sister.

And she freaked out and kicked him out of the house. And she started hanging around with the softball team. And she said, you know, one of the softball people, you know, said, maybe you're gay. And she became a lesbian.

Like, because she was bitter against men. It's a lot longer story than that, but my parents were very totally against it, my mom. But what happened was, they had her friend or whatever you call it, swept my parents' sidewalk, mowed the lawn, shoveled the snow before any of her, their other kids, you know, they had eight kids and me, and did it, she did it.

And then they said, oh, well, she's really nice. My mom said, they're just roommates. I said, come on, that's what she said. I mean, just the blindness of religion. I mean, it's very upsetting.

I liked what you said about, you used to be an alcoholic. You know, that sounded like a purposeful statement that you said it in a certain way. I did, yeah. Like, instead of saying that, you know, you're still an alcoholic, right?

Like a lot of alcoholics say, or people easily say.

I was a rock and roll band guy, and tried to, you know, one of these guys tried to start a band when we were teenagers. And we started going back into the Texaco woods in Westville every late afternoon.

And we would, each of us would bring a case of beer that, I don't know how we afforded that. And we would steal a bag of ice from the ice house that was there at the time. And we would go pour the ice into the box and just in the woods back there, and just drank every day, and did it every day.

And that's what happened. See, I didn't know I was an alcoholic. I drank every day. And by the time I was working at the swing shift, which starts at 4 p .m. or 6 p .m., in the casino, when I woke up, I used to drink a glass of scotch.

I didn't know I was an alcoholic. I just thought it helped me feel better in the morning.

Seminary, Greek, and Biblical Languages

So then you started Greek class. When did that start?

Well, I went back. My dad had a diner on Route 130, which is now 295 in West Stafford. And I went back working for him, which I did since I was a little kid, managing the diner in the morning. And I had to get up at like 3 .30, 4 o 'clock in the morning.

So I was there, and I think it was peeling boiled potatoes for home fries in the morning. What diner is this? Joe's number two diner in Virga. Joe's number one was Gateway Diner in Westville, but it used to be called Joe's Diner.

That's my grandfather's diner. Is it called something different now? It's closed. They're rebuilding the area because of flooding, and Joe's number two got knocked down because it's an interstate 295.

You can't have businesses on it. So I was there, and then I really... The two times I've heard the Lord is when he said, don't look back at the casino, and he said, you're gonna preach the gospel. I thought there was somebody there.

I went and checked, because it was before anybody got there to the diner. And then the waitress came in. I said, is anyone else here? No, no other cars out there. And so I started, I said, I need to start my education.

I took classes at Villanova. I did not matriculate any kind. I just took classes because I had to take Englishes and all that to get a Bible degree, and I decided I was gonna go to get an undergraduate degree, and I just thought the best thing was biblical languages, because I used to listen to expository teaching.

I listened to John MacArthur, and I said, listen, if I don't learn Greek, I'm not gonna, I don't wanna be, I wanna be able to read it myself. So I found out there was Pepperdine University on the West Coast, and there was Abilene Christian.

Both had undergraduate biblical language degrees. So I never knew nothing about Texas, and we, my wife and I, we quit, newly wed. We were only married for a couple months. We packed everything into a trailer and went to Abilene, Texas.

And I'm telling you, after you drive down the interstate 20 past Dallas-Fort Worth, there's nothing but desert and armadillos and scorpions. That's all, not rattlesnakes. They're not run out of gas. And then you came to Abilene, and they're like, there were no trees.

My wife's cried when she saw there's so few, there's no trees. Wow. How do you say scorpion in Greek? I think it's scorpionos. Scorpionos, makes sense. So, so anyway, went there, and I went, and I was a, no, thought it'd be real easy, but I didn't know, like I said, I used to do good in college until I started hanging around my rock and roll friends, because then it, I guess, it wasn't cool to get good grades.

And so I actually didn't go to classes so I could be accepted, which was kind of crazy. I was in Catholic school, and I got, they asked my parents to withdraw me, because they thought I was selling marijuana, which, by the way, I wasn't.

I smoked, we used to, Gloucester Catholic High School, you could smoke it between buildings, because you walked between buildings. But we smoked cigarettes, too, and somebody said I was selling it. Anyway, so I went to public school, and I did real bad there.

And so I wasn't real good on parts of speech or English, but I went right into a Greek, you know, Greek and New Testament major. And I had to take, I took four years of Greek, I had to take a year of Hebrew, and we had a semester of Aramaic, which was a lot of fun.

And I started using my Greek texts, that's because there were the guys that used the inner linears and cheated, and I just decided that you may as well learn it. And I still use it every day. I, you know, I think words, and I've learned modern Greek since, so I can speak to Greek people, because it's all different pronunciations.

And yeah, it's fun.

And you're gonna be putting on a class in the near future for some of us lay people that might be interested?

Yes, Lord Willing, Calvary Chapel Bible College, which is out of Calvary Chapel, Marlton is gonna have a Greek class and I'll be doing the teaching. My friend Danny Barger is the, I guess we would call him the headmaster there right now.

And they have classes every semester, including spring and summer classes. But that's supposed to be in the fall of 2024.

So anybody that wants to take the class could sign up and join you. It's either gonna be in Woodbury or in Marlton.

Yeah, you'd sign up through ccmarlton .org and look for Calvary Bible College and sign up. Awesome.

Evangelizing Muslims in Dearborn and the Authority of Scripture

All right, you mentioned Danny Barger. He was a missionary to the Middle East and still goes back there, I think. Amazing man. We have to have him on TDHP at some point. But he reached out to Muslims a lot.

I wanted to ask you about something that happened in your ministry. We're friends here with David Wood. David Wood's been in our church and preached a couple of times. And Nabil Qureshi has since gone to be with the Lord.

The two of them would go evangelize in Michigan. Tell me about your experiences evangelizing Muslims.

Well, we were there because of Danny Barger. Danny Barger was Oh, Danny was part of that too. Danny Barger was a missionary in Egypt. So he knew Egyptian, Arabic really well. And we went to, we did the Musa, Moses tour.

Started out in Goshen and went all the way, the steps of Moses to Mount Nebo in Jordan. That'd be cool. So it was great. And we went to Jerusalem after that. That was the first time I went to Israel. And it was a beautiful trip.

And I always describe it like all the lands around Israel were one way. It was all dirt, desert, and dirty. And when we walked into Nueva, or really when we came into Israel from the border, as soon as you got to the border, it was like the Wizard of Oz where it goes from black and white to color.

Wow. That's not a lie. I mean, because there was vegetation and life. And we're just like a quarter mile away. It was just dirt. But anyway, but they're trying. And so we just were on that. And then we went to the Arab Fest.

And at the same time, Dave and Nabil, they were going, I guess about a year. I'm trying to think, to 2004. It was every year. They had 2004, 2005, 2006. And we used to go to Dearborn, which is a suburb of Detroit that was started by Henry Ford, who was an anti-Semite, and brought Arabs in just to annoy Jews.

That's what he really did. Wow. He wrote a series of books that Adolf Hitler had published into German because he was a severe anti-Semite. Anyway, so we went there. And to me, it was amazing, first of all, because Dearborn, they have a Yemeni section.

And when you're there, it's like in Yemen. You go to a store. It's like being in Yemen. If I didn't know where I was at, because everybody speaks Arabic, that's where I think I was at. Then they have a big Lebanese section, which is really nice and Americanized.

And then they got a Saudi section. And so we went there and went the first year. And a lot of stuff going on. It was kind of, you know, we had met in the street there, and we had our own booth. And the pastor from California we were with, he had like a question and answer thing, and it was real nice.

Second year we went, Nabil and David were there again. They had this thing set up inside the main tent. And it said, any question you have, you ask. So we went, and there was a bunch of these scholars there.

And they had a sign, just like every sign set, had it hanging up. It said, the prophet Mohammed is prophesied by Jesus. I knew what it was. And then I went there and asked a question. He showed me, you know, in John 16, when the spirit of truth has come, he will lead you into all truth.

And I said, no, no, no.

I said, ruach haqodes, that's Arabic for the Holy Spirit. And he said, no. And so he said, the big guy came. The big guy came to study with me. And I was there for about, I would say, 45 minutes. And I tore in part with it as talking about ruach haqodes.

And they told me there's no such thing, because they don't believe in that. And I said, well, that's what Isa was talking about. And I said, you guys are wrong. And so this other guy came up, and these other guys are with him.

And as I was talking, because it was getting a little heated, because I was not intimidated by them at all, I got picked up. Now, listen, I weigh 250 pounds. These two guys picked me up, and they took me outside and threw me over this wall, which I was able to land on my hands and save myself.

And they told me I'm kicked out. How big was the wall? It was about six foot. Yeah, and it was like, I didn't even know what happened. Well, they said to ask any questions. So, smart me, I went right back.

They said, well, get the hell away. Let's go. Let's go right back. Lystra, yes. I sat at the camera. Paul got back up and went in. What are you doing? And they acted all different, because the camera was there, even though it was just me.

So I went back with a couple of my friends. You went right back in. Oh. We did it again. We did it again. This time, all day was gone. And so then David and Nabil were there. They heard about it, and they decided to do something.

So they went, and they went and really pressed these same guys, and they ended up getting arrested.

I remember seeing videos of them getting arrested.

They got two years in a row. And it's a shame, because there was a lawsuit. They closed down the Arab Fest, which I used to love going to it. It was good food, and it was a good time. It was, and it was a great time.

Like, we talked to a lot. I didn't see anybody get saved, which was not a person from Islam that became a Christian. I haven't seen that. Now it could happen, but I would have liked to. Yeah. It's so much a process.

Like, the way Nabil came, he was talking to David Wood for years on the debate club and all before Nabil actually got saved. Yeah. So it could have been in time. Through your life, you lost your job by sharing Isaiah 53, and then you went on to get baptized, and your own mom threw a phone at you and kicked you out.

And then later down the road, you actually were in Israel, and Muslims picked you up and threw you over a wall. Yeah. And some people would look at that and be like.

Well, that happened in Dearborn, Michigan. Oh, sorry, Dearborn, Michigan. Right here in America. I've been to Dearborn. I also got arrested at the Liberty Bell. Because I was. Oh, do tell. I was with my friends from college, graduate school students from Abilene Christian, and they'd never been to Philly before, and they lived with Cheese State, yeah, and we went to Liberty Bell, and proclaimed liberty.

And I said, is scripture on there? And I said, yeah. And there was a bunch of people there, and I started explaining them what that meant, that Moses said that following Torah brings freedom, and freedom, and that's what they brought into this country, that kind of liberty, the liberty that only can give by the Lord.

And so the guy comes up. You're not supposed to talk about that. Why? There's nobody else here. And next thing I know, police come, and they took three of us away. Oh, there was like 10 of us, but only three of us got arrested.

Wow. And they thought I was the main speaker, so I got taken to the roundhouse in Philly. Wow. And then they let us go, no charges, but it was still, I didn't like that, because that's what, the things that go on now, as you know, on college campuses, there's not freedom of speech anymore.

Right. Because you know that. I mean, they're, I call them jerks. I don't know what else to say, but they don't let you say anything if you disagree with their view of the gospel.

So I was drawn to this type of preaching, because he was just so direct. That's what made me keep listening to Joe D 'Amico. So there are people out there that need to hear it. You do it when you have to.

You do it when you have to. Yeah, I don't, like I said, I don't like to be like that all the time. Yeah. People's faith. Yeah, people get offended. And again, I go to, like I said, when I first became a Christian, I went to the priest, the parish I grew up in, and I became equipped, and he couldn't answer any questions.

And what's worse is he didn't care. He told me to go study church history. I studied church history. I came back, and he's still, you know, it's like, you know, he tells my parents, and I'm, don't worry, he's gonna come back to the faith.

I am. That's what, I was like, really, you know, because he, but, you know, they didn't, so me and my, when I got married, me and my wife went there, and we wanted our names removed from the rolls of Rome.

Because, you know, like, because I was new Christian. I was like, you know, it's the whore of Babylon. I told them that. And I told the bishop in Camden that. It didn't go over real well, but I mean, I said, well, I said, have you ever thought about that before?

And so I'm there in Revelations trying to read it to them, and they tell me, you know, they say, hey, you need to get going. We're gonna get security. Security? I said, what, I thought you guys were priests.

What do you mean security? I'm asking you a question. I really want to know what your answer is.

And they never, I never got it. So some of the viewers might be looking like, in the lifestyle that you're living and what you chose, they might look at you for all this persecution that you suffered, and they might think like, why are you doing that?

That sounds like an awful, what's the purpose for all that? And do you regret any of that?

No, I really did all those things, because I really cared. Or like with the guys at the sign up, ask us any question about Torah, and they have that Prophet Muhammad's prophesied by Jesus. And I said, really?

I said, I want to know what that was. And so that's what we got, what happened. And they had the one guy and he didn't know enough. So they went and got the other guy. Because see, I knew enough Arabic to be dangerous.

So they didn't like that. But you cared about them and wanted them to know the truth. I was the truth. And they just want to throw you over a wall.

I tried to tell them about that. I tried to, again, preach into them about the Holy Spirit. And that he will help you come to Jesus. He'll help you come to Isa. Isa's not a prophet. What you heard is true.

And I said, if you read the Quran, it doesn't tell you what you guys say today. The Quran says to read the Injil, the gospel. It says to read the Torah. It says to read the Psalms of David. And you guys say it's corrupt.

But it doesn't say that anywhere in any of the writings until way after Muhammad. So how do you do that? Instead of answering, they get mad. They get upset.

And that's the anger because they can't answer the truth. I think in our culture, people act as if Muslims are persecuted in America. All this Islamophobia. They think that everybody is being persecuted, but not Christians.

It's exactly the opposite. Christians, it's open season on all times. It's open season on Christians.

Yeah, yeah. It really is. It really is, yeah. I mean, we get accused of things. I remember in Dearborn, there's the three angel satellite network. And they would have, during the time we were there, they would have, like James White came in, and him and Dave Wood did it.

A bunch of teachings on there. And they would say that these guys are evil and wicked. They were just firm in saying this. You know, especially Dave Wood, because he tells you what a pervert Muhammad was.

And he's just telling you the truth. He's not doing it to disrespect them. He's telling you, it's just like if we were to talk about what Joseph Smith did. You know them by their fruits. Joseph Smith was a, you know, what's a nice bad word for him?

Sleaze that used to try to witch wells and make money however he can, sell potions or whatever. And he found a way with religion, because he found a bunch of people who were really serious about wanting to have an American denomination.

And he took them and led them astray.

And they're still that way today. When you were talking about evangelizing and Greek languages, and you're talking about the history of the church, I was thinking of James White. I was thinking of very James White.

He says that's the most important thing you need for evangelism is to be able to know church history and the languages.

And yeah, James White's great with the Greek texts too. I mean, yeah.

Persecution in New Jersey, Cultural Collapse, and the Need for Boldness

So Joe, we bought land not far from here for a future building. And when we went over there to pray for it, somehow the night before, someone came and implanted spikes this big in the concrete, in the asphalt of our road going in to pop the tires of all the cars that came in.

This just happened a couple of years ago. That doesn't make the news. If that happened to a local mosque or a synagogue, what would, how many helicopters would be out reporting?

There was just a kid arrested, 18-year-old kid, I forget, in the Midwest, Iowa, Coeur d 'Alene, Iowa, was arrested because he was gonna kill all these Christians in seven churches on one day. And he was a pledged member to ISIS, even though he didn't know the first thing about Islam, which is kind of weird.