Road Trippin to G3: Preview of G3 and Debate Report

Well greetings and welcome to the dividing line my name is James White coming to you from um To be honest with you. I think i'm in North Carolina. Sometimes he is not even sure. Uh, it starts getting blurry after a while uh, but uh drove down from uh somewhere in Virginia to Not big places, you know, uh, if you're if if I was looking for staying at fancy spots, I Koa is generally not fancy spots.

And uh, this is definitely not a there's koa. Um, Holiday and koa journey And the holidays are fancier than the journeys i'm on a journey right now. So I don't really Take note of any of that stuff. I've never been in a pool at a koa um I do want to find the uh Laundry, I think it's over there.

I hope so Do need to do some laundry tonight um but other than that I don't really care too much about all the rest of it as long as it's got electricity water and sewer. That's all that matters. It's just all the rest of it is somewhat on the academic side of things.

So anyways, uh great to have you with us we uh I saw people who aren't who are like are like so are you seriously in an rv? Look if you've got that background That's the rv. That's this is an rv. Yes.

This is uh There's the roof up there. Um, this is the front of the unit uh, there are sadly uh many deceased bugs on the other side of that wall because that's the That's the front end. That's the business end.

That's what hits the air and uh, takes out some pretty big nasty bugs along the way and uh, Uh, we got to get that cleaned off each trip and uh, because uh, It's best not to leave that sitting there in the sun because Bug guts baked on.

Not a good not a good combination just stuff you learn. Uh when you uh, When you do the rv life and uh, so I will be parking um This little beastie in atlanta and uh, then uh Tomorrow night. I've got a I've got to pack luggage.

You know how long it's been since I've packed luggage uh, i'm gonna forget stuff you just There's just no way. I mean I had gotten really good at that. But it's been years now. And i'm gonna forget stuff.

Hopefully not underwear because that would be the worst thing to forget I think um. But I i'm gonna have to pack stuff up for three days because uh, my dear wife is flying into atlanta. She flies she doesn't care about all that stuff and uh, Uh, so we're gonna be staying at the hotel there for g3.

And so i've got to pack up what I need from here and bring it with me down to the convention center. And once again, I know i've mentioned this on Uh wednesday starting at nine o 'clock in the morning.

There is a pre-conference jeffrey johnson starts it off. I speak in the afternoon. There are 45 minute presentations, uh from people who are staff members uh faculty members at uh grace bible theological seminary and then at the end of all that will be a.

They're even calling it a mini debate and i'm like um It can't be a mini debate. I have a specific topic. My topic is government overreach masks vaccines and the navy seals. And they asked me to do that because of our involvement with the seals and the stance that we took from the start uh apology, I never closed um, we You know.

Certainly had a few people in the congregation that um. Wore masks, but I would say they might have represented one percent two percent at the most um. And certainly today I don't know of anybody. Who goes?

Oh, man. I wish I had gotten the vaccine. I'm gonna run out and get it now. I don't know anybody. Um, pretty much everybody that I know. Who withstood the pressure? Is just going whoo when you see all of the stuff going on and all the excess mortality and.

And and I honestly I don't think we've even begun to see everything. That we will eventually see well If we are allowed to eventually see it, let's let's put it that way so, um I'm going to be talking about that um, but i'm not going to be presenting a defense of um Post-millennialism or anything related to that?

So i'm not really sure what the debate part is going to be because I know that other people will be. Making positive presentations for their perspectives um in their presentations. Um, but I won't have that opportunity.

So i'm not really sure What that's going to turn out to be but we'll see uh, it'll be. It will not be boring. I can guarantee Guarantee that so that's on wednesday then on thursday. Uh, everything gets going at full speed and uh, we'll be at our.

We have a booth alpha omega has a booth. Jason. Lyle is going to be at g3 for the first time. And so i'm definitely going to pop over to jason's booth for a while and say hi to him. Uh, jason. Lyle's the smartest man i've ever met and if you don't know jason lyle and uh biblical creation institute you need to go by and you're going to be there go by his His booth and say hello and say james white said you're the smartest man alive and I wanted to come see you and he will smile and Rude the day that you met me so, um.

Go see go see jason. Lyle, um at his booth and then of course, uh, jeffrey rice is going to be there um, and uh. He will have some really cool stuff available there. And I know he's made up at least a few of his now incredibly popular and famous johnny cash rebinds and I had I guess I had seen some of them in passing, but I really hadn't made all the connections uh, but he does this, uh all black black ribbons just velvety.

Black leather. I think it's the calls it double shot or something like that um, and then dyes the pages edges black as well and he calls it the johnny cash, you know, the man in black so. Um, it is it is not the bible named.

Sue so We can put that one to rest right now, but it's uh, it's it's the johnny cash. So, uh go by uh, post tennis Rebinding they've got they'll have their uh stuff there too. And I normally go over and hang out for a few minutes over there as well and say hi to folks and um.

We'll be taking all of we'll be doing all the the selfies and the book signings and and I will be at the gbts. Well, i'm supposed to be at the gbts uh booth. On friday, i've got to double check the exact time on that um, but after the debate on wednesday, who knows I I they they may have burned me an effigy by then and uh, and and so that won't happen.

So we'll see. Uh, but uh, yeah pray for me as I try to get there by nine o 'clock in the morning on wednesday because um Josh vice just sent me what he called a pro tip on how to get to downtown and avoid The worst traffic so i'm going to try to follow his instructions.

And then he made me feel much better. Uh when he told me that they have special Valet parking that you can arrange which they've arranged for me. Uh when you have a huge truck, that's you know, almost seven feet tall 21 feet long um and Uh, because josh has a truck that's even bigger.

His I think is a 350. I am mine's 2500. He'd be a 3500. So Uh, that doesn't necessarily mean it's necessarily physically bigger, but it's supposed to have stronger springs. Um because he had a 40 some odd foot rv that he was pulling mine's only 35 anyway.

Uh, his would be parked down there as well. So he's already arranged all that stuff. That makes me feel a lot better um I I just just didn't want some kid jumping in that truck and down into down into the depths of a I don't know where uh, because she doesn't fit into places like that.

She's just too big so, uh. Anyway, so that's coming up at g3 but looking forward to seeing all of you um this past weekend. Wait a minute before I Before I start talking about the conference and the debate because I do I do need to talk about the debate um before I do that, I want to uh do something that.

Again, some some folks could be like, ah, I don't care about any of this stuff. All right fine. This has obviously been a major part of my life for a long time um, I have ridden a bicycle 161 thousand miles now.

And I don't do as much riding outside anymore. Um um, we sort of lost control of my heart situation uh, not in a oh, i'm about to die type thing, but in a Um, who knows when it's going to go crazy type type thing.

For years we had that very much locked down but as I've aged that has now changed and Sometimes it'll just hit and it really impacts. It impacts the regularity of my training and the main thing it does is, you know.

Only a few years ago and I would still love to be able to do this. I'm sort of mourning the loss to be able to do this, but I would get up at 1 30 in the morning during the summers. And i'd be on the road by 2 30 and i'd do a metric century i'd ride 100 kilometers uh by time the sun rose.

And I loved that. Uh being out there in the desert dodging coyotes literally um I love that and I get a lot of stuff listened to and um. It's not that I can't do those rides anymore. I can. But I don't have the confidence to do it.

Uh, if if something happens heart-wise. Uh 50 miles from home at 3 30 in the morning. Uh, my wife's not gonna even you know. Sure, she's gonna come get me but it's gonna take her a long time to get there and so i'm doing a lot more of my riding indoors now for obvious reasons and i'm very very thankful that there are Options now to where I can get just as good a workout.

Um. Riding in Zwift or RGT or RUVI. Um. On a smart trainer as as I can outdoors and to be honest with you after COVID hit. Riding outdoors is much more dangerous. Um, I used to be able to take what's called the Arizona canal to get out of the city.

And get out where it's safer to ride. Ever since COVID The canal is basically unrideable all the underpasses have been turned into homeless drug centers. Uh, they're not safe. Between the people the dogs all the stuff that they put down there the excrement the urine, uh, and the needles.

Uh, it's just it's just not safe to do it and so Stuff has changed. It really really has so anyways point being uh I Am a cyclist and that means i'm interested in the sport as well. And uh, there are three grand tours each year.

So unlike football fans who have one day of the super bowl. We have nine weeks because a grand tour is a three-week stage race. Um, you have two rest days. But there are 20 21 stages. And they normally cover, uh, well over, you know around 20 to 2300 miles.

Depending on how much climbing is in them. And the first one's in may the giro d 'italia, so the tour of italy. The the big daddy is the tour de france, of course in july. And then the vuelta a espana the tour of spain Is in august september.

And of course coven messed all the all of them up, too. But i've been following these for years 10 years ago chris horner an american Won the vuelta a espana and I thought that was great because chris horner was 42 stinking years old when he won the vuelta in 2013 and All us old guys are like Yeah, we can still do it.

It was great. So that was really pulling for him but um this year There has been one team that has become completely predominant for a long time. It was called sky then they changed their name to inios the inios grenadiers.

They're Being eclipsed now By a team called jumbo visma, which is a european sponsored by a european grocery store chain. And they have the two biggest General what called general category uh riders. Uh, jonas vingegaard who interestingly enough worked in a fish factory until just a few years ago.

He he they would take fish in. And He sorted fish. That's what he did and until it was found out he could really ride a bike and I mean he Went to the top of his sport at an incredible speed. And he's won the last two tour de france Editions toddy bogaccio won the two before that and They also have primo's rugglage uh from slovenia and uh he's just been a force for a long long time now.

And he's won the vuelta I think four times and he won the zero this year. So the point is Jumbo visma visma won the zero with primo's rugglage in may. They won the tour de france With jonas vingegaard in july.

And then they brought both rugglage and vingegaard To the vuelta a espana which made everybody go this will be interesting. When you have two leaders, they both want to win. Um what happens because I I know a lot of people don't understand this.

This is a team sport. I mean you look at stuff like football rugby soccer football in the rest of the world. Uh baseball, these are all team sports and everybody goes. Yeah, you need to have good pitching good catching.

You need to have a good quarterback. You have to have wide receivers got a good defensive line. Depends on what sport you're looking at. Believe it or not cycling is very much a team sport in the grand tours.

You're you're riding literally 100 to 120 miles per day for three weeks. Okay. Being in the peloton drafting having a team around you is absolutely vital. You cannot win One of these things on your own.

You can't just go in there and i'm not gonna worry about anybody else. I'm, just gonna blow everybody away. Can't be done um. The the sport is just too competitive so Everybody was wondering what's going to happen and for many years there's been a american.

From durango colorado. My name was sepcus. And sep is what's called a super domestique. Which means he's a worker. And it's his job to protect the gc riders. How do you protect somebody? Well you um, literally literally for example if the gc guy uh, it's it's a really important part of the climb and their Bike brakes you jump off yours and give him yours.

And wait for the car to come get you and get you a new bike um. But more normally you sit in front of that gc guy and you draft for him you break the wind for him. So it's easier for him to get up the hill and you just kill yourself literally you just.

When when you see these domestiques when they get done with their pull at the front. Sometimes they come to a complete stop. They are wiped which means they don't end up normally very high up in the standings because you know, then they Lose a whole lot of time going the rest of the way up.

Uh, but he's called a super domestique and probably recognized as the best in the business. Well, here's the point. This is why i'm telling you all this um Vinga go and here's by the way here. Um here.

Um, that's not what I wanted. I wanted uh. This sorry about that here's uh. Here's here's what happened. Uh three guys in the colorful jerseys the guy in the yellow is is vinga go. The yellow jersey is the winner of the tour de france the guy on the right.

That's primo's ruglich. He's in the pink jersey winner of the giro d 'italia. The guy in the middle is sepcus and he is in a red jersey. Red jersey is the winner of the vuelta a espana. And so one team.

One all had one had different guys when. Each one of the grand tours now. Oh stop that so. But what happened was. That's not what their plan was. A sep got into a what's called a breakaway the breakaway got a bunch of time.

Everybody expected him to lose it in the time trial, but he didn't. He he defended it and so they go into the last week and all the discussion was about okay. They have the leader and in fact, they're one two three.

But they have two guys who are the gc, you know, they've won grand tours. But every grand tour that they won all four that roguelich won and the two that vina go won. Guess who pulled them through those things?

Sepcus. They wouldn't have won those without sepcus. And so it was amazing to me to watch The ethical and moral discussion going on in the cycling world. When roguelich and vina go kept getting closer and closer and closer to taking sep out of the red jersey.

Uh because they you know top of mountains all of a sudden they take off and Get time on their teammate you're not supposed to do that. And it was fascinating to watch the Morality play that ended up taking place um in regards to cycling and.

Did these guys owe anything to sepcus? If you had seen him on the 20th stage in tour de france he crashed at high speed. He had blood all over his face most of this tour most of the of the vuelta. He had band he still had bandages over his left eye.

Because he had gotten torn up so bad and most people figured. Oh, he won't go to the vuelta now. He's just all beat up and he's like, oh no. No, in fact, that's the amazing thing. He rode all three grand tours.

Most professionals you did you don't have enough time to recover. But he did he survived it and he won it and eventually jumbo visma. The pressure on them, well, it's amazing they did the right thing.

They restrained vingago and roglitch. And i'm hoping you know, i'm i like to think the best of people i'm hoping. That when they rode across the line together, you know, one two three. And they have their arms around each other and all the rest of stuff.

I i'm hoping they really meant that. There's a lot of people that are like man, they must have really threatened vingago and roglitch uh with a gun, uh to get them to not Take the jersey away from sapkos because the team would have just been Ravaged if they had by everybody in the sport and everything else, uh, christian van de vel.

Uh had was commenting on it and he he said the same thing. So it was fascinating though to see The the morality play. And because I'm sitting back going y 'all don't really have any any basis for saying all this stuff.

Um, you don't realize how much you're borrowing from the christian worldview for all the categories you're using here. So it is interesting to see it. And again, a lot of that goes back years and years and years the traditions and cycling and stuff like that.

Where'd that come from? Well primarily from the christian worldview. And um, but it was fascinating to see and congratulations to sapkos um, he says In fact, it was really funny. The mics were open at the at the finish line with the final stage.

And so he's it's done. He's won it. And his wife's there. And I hear it very clearly you hear her say don't you ever do this to me again. Hahaha. And and sepp has pretty much said he says hey i'm back to my domestique role I I My intention in 2024 is to be leading Um primoz roglic and jonas finger go up the mountains in the grand tours.

Again, and it won't be me going for the wins. I will be doing what i've done all along. I'm perfectly happy with that um, this was awesome, this was incredible, but I'm not going to become a gc contender.

I'm not going to be one of the One of those types of guys and that's sort of the kind of guy he is. I don't see any evidence. He's a christian um given some of the language i've heard, uh on open mics, but um, he does seem just just to be a really really Um giving guy he's always asking other people how they're doing and stuff like that.

So yeah. Certainly pray for all of them. I'd love to see all them come to know. Know the lord they were they would they would be great testimonies at that point. So anyway, just wanted to mention that.

Um, Was was at the gospel at war uh conference, uh. This weekend, obviously I I opened it on thursday night. Uh. You know, I forgot to check didn't have time to check. I don't know how much has been put on um Mid-atlantic reformation society's.

Um um youtube page uh I don't know if they're doing editing or something. I I just don't know and Actually, i'm not 100 certain Exactly how the debates can be made available and my understanding is it's still on our twitter feed.

Uh, because we live streamed it and let me just mention. Why did we do that? They they weren't going to do it. But when I walked in thursday night Before I gave my first talk I look over. And I know you can't see it sitting here.

But there is an atem mini pro sitting right here. That's how i'm you'll see me reach over here and do stuff and make mistakes and things like that. That's why I put the alpha omega logo up instead of the screen and blah blah um.

But I know how to use this. Um. The fact that you're able to watch me right now demonstrates. I at least have some level of proficiency with it. And so they're using the exact same software. And so I was like, so Are you all gonna live stream it as well?

We've told people we're not going to. I said well, um, I know a lot of people would really like to watch it. Um, how about we live stream it? Uh, we'll we'll. We can i'll use the software and we'll set it up the way we set it up and We can live stream it.

So that's what we ended up doing. And so if you did get a chance to watch it, uh, that was why it happened. I happen to look back and go i've seen that screen before. It's right in front of me right now.

Um. And so that's how and I don't know if that has been posted yet outside of that. Or how that's going to work. I imagine rich is probably communicating with folks somewhere um. Hmm, okay. Uh rich says he has a list of stuff for me to pack for me to pack you mean like Yes, it's still on our twitter thing.

You mean stuff that I need to bring from the from the rv? I'm, i'm supposed to be putting stuff. I don't got much room man. I got very very very little room. Uh, so the uh, Oh, I gotta bring the cameras.

Oh good grief I didn't. What am I supposed to put them in? Okay, you are now seeing live right now, uh that rich did not communicate with me. That I was gonna be needing to pack anything other because I have one little double bag and my garment bag.

It's all I got um. So the cameras will be in plastic bags plastic grocery bags. Um, and uh, that's how they'll that's how they'll have to get where they're going, I guess um. So but yeah, but you've got cables and lights and oh man, dude.

Dude, uh, we're gonna have to have a conversation about this. I'm starting to go. Mm. Mm. Mm. Not sure that that. Not sure that's gonna work, um, but we'll have to figure it out later on anyway, um. About the debate so.

The debate was on saturday afternoon from 3 30 to 6 30 approximately. Unusual time of day i'll have to admit it felt like night time in there. There weren't any windows in the venue we were at and so it was interesting and I think.

Both myself and dr. Cole sort of defaulted to saying things like this evening and stuff like that um before very long, um. This was his first debate. Okay. So it's not like you can go back and go. You know, this is how he handles.

This is how he handles that. The only thing I had to go on. Was his or his books? And then I watched a number of presentations that he has made um in evangelical mainly calvary chapel-ish type of context.

And so I knew there were a couple different directions he could go. And if he went the direction of most of his presentations. Um I sort of expected a pretty heavily personal story narrative because that's what he likes to do that is his books after well, even a christian gay single.

Um gay christian single or something like that. Um. Even uh, even that was heavy on the personal narrative and background story and and things like that. So I was sort of expecting that but what happened was um.

He was very well prepared and what he did is he looked up the organization that was putting this on. And realizing that we're a bunch of raving calvinists. Uh, he modified his presentation to be more uh communicative and um Convincing I guess to Us folks he even even Quoted the famous abraham kuiper Uh line, you know, there's not a single Um square inch of of the world were over which christ does not cry mine um.

Which I'd never ever ever ever heard him quote before. But he did in his opening statement. Um, and he was always within time Um was a very clear speaker. And uh, so very impressive on on that level. But I told a number of people and I think I mentioned on this program.

That I knew this was going to be a very challenging debate for one simple reason the vast majority of people from a reform perspective a conservative bible-believing Evangelical perspective. Have never read or even listened to the side b Gay christian narrative and as a result.

And I had heard this over and over again coming into the debate from people on my side. Oh, this would be a slaughter. This would be easy for you Don't even have to prepare for this etc, etc, etc, and i'm like no no no That's not the case.

This is going to be very challenging the argumentation utilized by the side b advocates Is um Nuanced. And it it cannot be responded to without understanding what the the presuppositional claims it's making are.

And especially to understand the role of external sources of authority specifically modern psychological categories such as sexual identity um all that stuff that is Become central to transgender issues and all the the sexual revolution.

Um that that comes in and yet it it comes in in revoice in in the writers for revoice and for the organization that dr. Coles works for. That comes in in the context of but we affirm a biblical theology of marriage and sexuality.

And I I think most evangelicals just go Well, that's just not possible you just all you have to do is say you can't do that um. But they do do that and so How do you respond to that? And so What I did uh For the debate was again.

And and i'm sure Many people will fault me for how I handled the debate. I just simply say to anybody who does fine and dandy. I'll Be happy to hear what you're going to do. When you engage with these folks, I'll we'll see how it works then.

And that's fine. Uh, someone might do a far better job than I did but my focus Because of the the way that the thesis was stated um, my focus was on Scripture is gay christian a biblically Acceptable identity for a member of christ's church.

So you could you could argue I didn't try to just use this as a Sledgehammer, but you could argue that to win the thesis statement. Um any utilization of any source of authority other than scripture violates the statement biblically acceptable, but of course then you have It's Believe it or not. There's actual controversy over What's biblical?

What's biblicist? Um all that kind of stuff so I believe That the way to deal with this or any other subject Is to bring the word of god to bear and so when I look at scriptural passages first corinthians 6 9 to 11 is the key text.

It's plainly is talking about homosexuals whether whether it's effeminate and homosexuals or malakoi and arson arson koitai are taken together as a full description of a male homosexual Relationship aggressor and passive.

Either way the text is making reference to saying That there were in the church in corinth former homosexuals. Former malakoi former arson koitai. And then it says such were some of you not such are some of you.

But I was Well aware of the fact that The side b people Have read that passage. And they have a response. They have a way of of arguing from the other other perspective. And as they say well Yeah, that's why we are committed to celibacy that's why we do not Push for gay marriage or at least.

Okay, some of them might but at least what they would say is um I I do not believe that I can seek out a same-sex partner. They tend to sort of leave that option open for others. Um, and I cannot engage in same-sex sexual activity and so they would say The reason they call that that he calls himself a gay christian.

And and here's where the language came in is that He has the capacity to experience The temptation of same-sex attraction. And that's that's a big thing most of us ever talk and most of us don't think about this this issue in the category of Having the capacity to experience temptation in a certain way.

That's not the normal language we use and it's not the language of scripture either. But they would say that's because Paul's dealing in a different context and and honestly what's really behind it is Paul didn't know what we know today.

Paul didn't know about um monogamous loving same-sex relationships. Or the whole concept of identity and and things like that. And and again, it depends on Depends on the person you're talking to. How they put all these blocks together as as to exactly where they're going to come from so one of the One of the obvious responses that people always give when you hear Gay christian and they reject that is what am I supposed to call myself?

An adulterous christian. Am I supposed to call myself a thieving christian? Am I supposed to call myself? A greedy christian, you know, and you just take one of these sins. And you plop it in front of christian.

Okay. Okay. And the response from side B advocates is but that Isn't the point. What paul was talking about was action? They had engaged in these things. And we're not engaging in these things. And so we're only talking about Um desires we're only talking about Attractions we're not talking about actions.

And so i'm simply saying that I am a follower of jesus. Who can experience temptation towards sexual sin in a same-sex context? And you are a follower of jesus who can experience Temptation to sin in a heterosexual context.

And you heard this in debate numerous times and then they'll say. And the one's not worse than the other. It's just it's just the area that i'm tempted in is different than the area that you're tempted in.

But we're all we're all subject to temptation. And so that's why there shouldn't be this. You know that that's why I should be able to call myself a gay christian. I am celibate. I'm not following through on that.

I recognize what bible teaches and therefore I should be able to be in leadership in the church lead in worship. Whatever else it might be. And that's not how most people have ever even thought about any of this.

And so as you listen to the to the cross-examination. And it sort of ended up. When I saw that it worked out this way I said, yeah, we should have done it differently. We switched the order. In the second half the cross-ex.

So we had done half an hour 15 15. And the next 15 15 we switched order which meant I got the first 15 minutes and the last 15 minutes. But he had 30 minutes in a row. Where he's asking me questions. And I think that was an advantage honestly um to have that Amount of time to be trying to craft a narrative because that's what he was trying to do.

That's that's what he was attempting to. Um. Um, so what I did is I Looked at these sins. Mentioned in first corinthians chapter 6. And uh, let me remind you of What they what they are. Do you not know the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of god?

Yeah, I could put this up but that's right. Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor effeminate nor homosexuals. Nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor revilers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of god.

And such were some of you but you were washed but you were sanctified. But you were justified in the name of lord jesus christ in the spirit of our god. So I looked at The sins obviously there's other lists of sins I could have gone to.

But it seemed fair and appropriate To go to the ones that are right there in the context. And what I did was I. Here's here's here's my notes. Um I said so we come to the center of my denial of thesis this evening.

Please note again the inspired text such were Some of you but you were washed but you were sanctified but you were justified In the name of lord jesus christ in the spirit of our god. Here is the key.

There is hope for all those Who have been marked by all the sins previously listed. And please note These were not just sins of overt action. One of those sins listed was greed or covetousness. Pleonecti is the greek term.

Coveting is an inward Disposition. It's a mindset a regular experience of the desire For the things of others. And so I had spoken to some other authors and people work in this area. And we've all been doing the same thing and that is.

How do you come up with a Appropriate parallelism something along those lines to uh address that and so I Said the verb paul uses is in the imperfect eta such were. It refers the ongoing experience these sins and their results in the past um.

But then there is a change described gloriously as you were washed you were sanctified you were justified. These are placed in the aris to point to an action that changes the continuing experience of those in corinth Who had now been freed from the dominion of these sins?

So here's my denial the thesis asks if gay christian is a biblically Acceptable identity for a member of christ church. Paul's answer is unequivocal. No. If the sin was ongoing in the past the washing sanctifying and justifying in christ Breaks that dominion and results in a new reality a new creation.

And then I made application. And by the way, dr. Cole's never touched the covetous argument. And I brought it up three or four times and so he would have had all the time in the world. Even during the q a at the end.

During the audience questions. He could have brought it up. He didn't touch it. I think he found that to be. I don't think that was something that he had attempted to work with before so he just decided not to not to go there.