Roadtrippin' in Buffalo, Wyoming

Well, greetings and welcome to The Dividing Line. I forgot to put my, we were working so fast, I didn't even put my headset microphone on thing. We'll just have to go with it. I don't even know if I'm gonna go a full hour, but hey, it's Road Trippin' Dividing Line and that means it starts when it starts, it gets over with when it gets over with, it blitzes out because you're in the middle of nowhere, whatever.

Road Trip Setup and Buffalo, Wyoming

That's what road trippin' is all about. And I am, since I'm only gonna be here for a few hours, I can tell you where I am. I am in Buffalo, Wyoming. No, I had never heard of Buffalo, Wyoming before. I will tell you one story.

It was interesting getting out of Golden, Colorado this morning. Had a few challenges. That's what this is all about. This is about learning and getting better at stuff and overcoming problems and difficulties and yeah, that's not been my life as far as doing this kind of stuff, but here we are.

I'm sort of proud of myself. The unit is in perfect shape. I'm not sure. I'd have to look at my app how many miles we've covered so far, but we've covered a few. And so I'm in Wyoming. You know what? Folks in Wyoming are very nice and I'll tell you why.

Most of you know that there is one Mexican food place, which a lot of people wouldn't even call a Mexican food place because it's really on the level of Taco Bell. It's called Taco Time. Now some of you have written in to say, I went to Taco Time.

It wasn't anything special. I'm not interested. Don't care. You gotta understand, I think, and I think Rich might agree with this. I think the reason that I have such a special place for Taco Time in my mind is due to the fact that that was a place that there were at least two back in the 80s and 90s, right near where we would stay when we went to Salt Lake City and did our outreach at the General Conference of the Mormon Church.

And so I think a mental link was forged in my mind between the taste of crisp meat burritos and the joy of missions work amongst the Mormons in Salt Lake City. That's my decision. I'm sticking with it.

That's my story. I think that works. Anyway, but I love crisp meat burritos and Taco Time sauce. And in fact, I told the story, I think on The Dividing Line that a few months ago, I pulled out a Taco Time sauce bottle at the office and it had an expiration date of 2018 on it.

It says 2021. And I just opened it up and used it. And I was just fine. I figure it's hot sauce. If anything gets in there, it's going to get eaten by the acid anyways. We're good. And I was good. I didn't have any problems.

I just bought one bottle at the new Taco Time place. So the point is, I saw that there was a Taco Time in Casper, Wyoming, which is on my way here. And so I didn't even follow the routing, it's the same routing, but I didn't use that program that I'd be using to get here.

I put into Google that Taco Time. And I looked at it and I knew it was going to be a tight fit. But the funny thing was, they saw me coming in and I found a place in the back to sort of park without blocking anybody in.

But I was gonna have to back out of it, which if you know these big beasts, that's a bit of a challenge. But anyway, so I go in there and I'm pretty sure it was the owner is taking orders and I'm just talking to him and they are just, everybody up there, everybody I've run into so far has just been, how you doing?

What can I do for you? Hey, you know, if you go this way, that'd even be better for you. And you know, I've got a fifth wheel too. And it's just, it's like, you know what it's like when we moved from Pennsylvania in 1974, when we arrived in Arizona, that's how people in Arizona were.

People in Arizona were that nice and would talk to you. People in Pennsylvania didn't, they were too much like New York. And so I'm just sort of like, so I mean, there's this guy saying, well, if you go over this thing, it'll be easier to get out.

And as I got it backed out and got around to where I was next to the people who were in line at taco time, I saw these two guys in the truck looking at me. And so I rolled the window down and they started talking to me.

And I'm like, man, people up here are friendly. They said, where are you from? I said, Phoenix, Arizona. The heat will kill you down there. Come on up. We've got plenty of room. And so I got two wonderful, yummy, crisp meat burritos.

I was hours ago. So I need to report to Rich that I'm just fine. And so anyway, we, it was, it was challenging because I ended up having to go, man, have I had to go through some construction and it was right there because they went to taco time.

I had to go through some of the narrowest, teeny tiniest little lanes, uh, that I've gone through so far, but no damage to truck or vehicle so far to report. And, um, and we got our, I've, I've even gotten a brand new bottle of taco time, taco sauce.

So I'm, I'm doing great. All right. So why in the world did I do a quick rush job getting set up? Uh, I'm only here for the night. I leave first thing in the morning. I didn't even unhook the truck, uh, just stabilize stuff and, and just could go with this.

Jonathan Merritt, LGBTQ Equality, and the Problem of Apostasy

Why, uh, why do a dividing line so quick? Well, it's been a little while, first of all. And there's a couple of things that I would like to, um, like to address, uh, last week, uh, toward the end of the week.

Um, Jonathan Merritt, uh, on his Instagram page, uh, posted in 2012, just days before my 30th birthday, I was publicly and painfully outed by a person who had earned my trust only to betray it. It took many months and a boatload of therapy to process the trauma of that experience and to learn to love the delightful human that God made when God made me.

And so for years now, um, Jonathan Merritt's son of a former president of the Southern Baptist convention has been a writer and a liberal. And when, uh, when I first started encountering his material, certain big names in big Eva, um, had done their best to cover over the reality.

Everybody knew it, but it wasn't a upfront thing in the sense of him saying it, but everybody knew that he was a homosexual. Everybody knew. Okay. Thanks. Hey, uh, we're road tripping and the park wifi went road tripping.

Just didn't bother to tell us it was going to leave left us that connection. So I'm, uh, um, tech not tech technologically I'm running through my cell phone right now. So, well, I don't know. Uh, that looked like it was a pretty solid connection to me.

Anyway, that's life. That's you, you, you work around these things. And so we're continuing. So, uh, Rich is going to edit out, hopefully not the first story. Uh, I guess that, that worked, uh, but edit out the beginning of my talking about Jonathan Merritt.

And we'll go ahead and start with that there. And that is that last week, uh, Jonathan Merritt came out on Instagram, literally came out on Instagram and, um, basically made the claim, uh, that he is a homosexual, um, that he confirmed that his words were in 2012, just days for my 30th birthday.

I was publicly and painfully outed by a person who had earned my trust only to portray it. It took many months and a boatload of therapy to process the trauma of that experience and to learn, to love the delightful human that God made when God made me that to me, it is amazing.

That anyone with a level of, of biblical literacy, uh, could be so self-deceived as to use that kind of language, but it's necessary. I mean, that, that is the life that these individuals, um, face is a life of trying to, in essence, argue that, um, their lifestyle, despite the universal approbation, condemnation, um, not approbation, condemnation of that lifestyle by scripture that this is something that God has done.

And this was, this is a gift and it's good and so on and so forth. Now, as I said, before we lost connection, um, everybody knew, but there were some big names and big Eva that used their power in the publishing industry and things like that, uh, to cover this over.

Jonathan Merritt is the son of a former president of the SBC. And so that's basically what happened. Everybody knew, um, I didn't know about this 2012 thing. I mean, I don't, I don't sit around digging dirt on people and stuff like that.

I feel sorry for people who do sit around digging dirt on people. Um, but, uh, it was obvious from the positions that he takes on all sorts of issues. It was obvious that he was in the Rachel held Evans trajectory out of any kind of historical, uh, position as far as, um, the evangelical church is concerned, uh, inspiration of scripture, uh, connection to the early church, all those things.

And so it, it, it was sort of hard to interact with him because you, you knew why he was saying the things that he was saying. He just wasn't honest enough to be open about it. And now he is, I guess.

And so it's interesting, um, that shortly after, uh, this, he tweets, let me see if I can, uh, do this here. Let's see, share screen. And here we go and share. So notice what Jonathan Merritt says, uh, young evangelicals, I suppose this is a lesbian couple walking along here.

Young evangelicals are leaving church resistance to LGBTQ equality is driving them away. And it's a link to an RNS, um, RNS article. I responded to this, uh, of course, and I responded rather, um, straight forwardly with a reference first John chapter two, they went out from us.

So it demonstrated they were not truly of us true believers in Christ are obedient to his word. And then I quoted first Corinthians six, uh, from the Greek language and said, Jonathan, you need to repent.

Um, if there are any responses that I didn't see him, um, Twitter is a hit and run type place, to be honest with you. Uh, in the sense that long-term conversations just rarely, rarely able to take place there, but, um, this kind of, uh, you know, you know, how often I've addressed arson, a quote, a source of a quote, I, we've talked about the 1946 movie coming out.

I I've spoken with some stuff, some folks yesterday at two different churches that I because they're encountering it. You're going to be encountering it. We will be doing more on it in the more in the future.

I've written to the 1946 people, challenged them to public debate on the subject, not even a response. Um, so, uh, that whole area remains not the focus, but very much a part of the crowbar that's being used to bring about separation within the church and division within the church.

And it will come to your fellowship as well. It will come to your fellowship as well. You, you have to, if you love your fellowship, you need to be listening to what people say, not in some type of inquisitorial sense, but, you know, I think back on 2018, I did not hear it.

And remember we played the clip from Jarvis Williams from 2018, you know, just filled with critical race theory and, and all the woke stuff. And if that was later in 2018, I might've recognized some language by then, but honestly, if that had been 2017, I would have been wondering what in the world he was talking about.

I would have been very hesitant to have said anything about it because I'm not really sure what the background is. And so it would, this stuff came in and a lot of us just didn't see it coming. We didn't have the vocabulary and it got past us and now we're paying for it.

I, I can't tell you how many church splits, how many people are leaving churches, the fundamental changes and shifts in churches as a result of all of this. It is, um, it is amazing. So there's a balance to be had.

You want to hear what people are saying. And when you hear certain buzzwords, you want to find out, do they really mean that? Or they just heard that from someplace. Does it just sound good? Just trying to be loving, whatever, uh, this kind of thing.

What's, what's the story we, we need to keep our ears and listen and, and consider what is being said. I think it's a vitally important aspect of things and it's a way of showing love for the church. And it's interesting.

I had a lengthy conversation while driving today, um, with Michael Fallon who heads up Sovereign Nations. Um, and of course you've, anyone who's watched any number of my debates has seen Michael Fallon introducing them, moderating them.

He had a major part in a lot of the real big ones with, uh, Bart Ehrman and John Dominic Crossan and John Shelby Fong. Some really interesting ones along the way, uh, Shabir Ali and, uh, uh, the, the, the resurrection debate on a cruise and all these things.

Um, but I've said, you know, and I said to him on the phone today, I, this is, this is not my area. Certainly I'm, I'm addressed. Anybody who's been listening carefully knows that I've addressed it primarily as a theologian.

I don't claim to be some expert. I Jacques Derrida, I, uh, reading the Frankfurt school stuff is just not a part of what I want to be doing in my life. Um, it's, it's, it's depressing material, somebody has got to do it, but we've all been dependent upon other people to give us a warning and to learn from them.

And there were other people who saw these things coming a lot earlier than I did. And I don't want anybody saying that, well, you know, go talk to James White. He's an expert. No, I, I don't, I don't make that claim at all.

Um, I've learned from others and do I have some level of some expertise to add in the biblical aspect of things? I, I suppose, but you got to stay in your wheelhouse. You got it. You, uh, don't, don't try to pretend like you're something that you're not.

Uh, don't try to try to convince people that you are all that when you're new to the game. And most of us are, are new to this game. So stick with your strengths, learn from others. Um, I've, you know, people are always bragging on me.

You, you are so arrogant. I'm the guy that has said more than once that when I ran and crossed the term intersectionality for the first time, I called my daughter because I knew she'd know she's been doing stuff on feminism and first and second and third wave.

And now I don't know what the fourth or fifth wave, whatever else, all that kind of stuff is. Um, I've learned from a lot of folks, um, and we all do, and just, just be honest about your sources and about where you got your information.

That's all. That's, that's, uh, I think, I think important and then get back to the battle. And this is part of the battle. All of that simply come back to, you know, merits really not on the tip of the spear as far as the, the cutting edge topic any longer.

Um, because I've observed many times. It just seemed to me that after June was June 26th, I believe of 2015, uh, was the day after my anniversary of that, uh, that, uh, a switch was just flipped and the emphasis went from homosexuality.

That was the Obergefell decision, Supreme court travesty joke. Absolute joke. I can't even mention it without expressing heartfelt disgust at that decision because it is written. Anthony Kennedy wrote it on the level of fourth grade.

It's emotional, it's emotive, and it's a betrayal of everything that made Western culture successful. And they gave us so much freedom and gave us so many of the things we're doing now, but we'll lose in the very near future because of men like him and worldviews, like the one that he embodied in the Obergefell decision, go back to 2015.

I, when I got back from the trip I was on at that time, I, I read portions of it on the dividing line and grab them while you can, because, uh, eventually they, they won't be there, but so merit isn't, you know, cutting edge anymore.

I mean, homosexual, you know, Hey, um, you've got a Republican transgender dude running for, uh, for office in California. That's homosexual, uh, Pete Buttigieg, you know, big deal, you know, all the rest of that stuff, all of that to normalize and to move past normalization so quickly that, that you're always keeping the same people off balance basically is, is what's going on there.

Uh, in those, those situations. So, uh, there you go. Um, young evangelicals are leaving church, but price sheep are not, there is a purification going on. No question about it needs to happen. And young evangelicals who were, uh, a part of the church for entertainment, advancement, comfort tradition.

Um, we don't need them in the church. They need to be converted. That's, that's the reality. They need to be converted. And if they're going to tell God, I don't like your law. Oh, there you go. There's a problem.

Textual Criticism, Matthew 28:19-20, and the Great Commission

Now I'm going to try something here. And we did not, because we did this fast. Um, I did not have time to, um, test this out. So I'm hoping that the sound will be good enough. I'm going to make sure the sound is up on, on my end because the recollection is the sound here.

Isn't all that good. Sort of interesting. Um, I, I should bring this up on Twitter, but again, while driving, uh, up here, um, I listened to this because, uh, someone on Twitter, I did stop a few times.

You have to, I think by the way, rich, I think on, on the first leg up here, 11 .2 miles per gallon. When I it's funny because the truck, when I, when I don't have the trailer on the back, it got 23, five and I was climbing mountains.

So I was going up to evergreen and stuff like that. So it's doing a lot of up and down so it can get 24, 25 easy, but man, double the way, half the, half the gas mileage is sort of how it works. Uh, that's just, just, and it happens to be the most expensive gas I've ever seen.

Thank you to the Biden regime, uh, that we are, are spending 75 bucks, uh, uh, fill up, uh, right now, uh, thanks to the Biden regime. We inflation through the roof gas prices through the roof. And who does that hurt the most?

Well, and right after shutting all the businesses down, well, I, I will never, ever, ever, ever believe that 80 some odd million people believe are voted for this insanity. Uh, but certainly a lot of people did, and I hope you enjoy what you're getting.

And some of you do, I know you do, but very few of you watch this program anyway. So I listened to this one too. I also listened. I retweeted a guy who spoke before a school board meeting, a medical doctor loved it.

I love when someone is confident in their position and can just rip and snort the facts. And he did. And I retweeted that, look it up. It's well worth taking a look at. Uh, it was a really, really interesting, but anyway, uh, here's a video that illustrates everything wrong with apostate Christendom, because that's, that's what this woman is.

She pretends she's a minister. She's not, she pretends to be a Christian. She's not, she, um, this is, I'm sure she's TLCA. I met, um, but this is, this is the Walker seminary. You know, um, I've talked about these, this kind of stuff that cease being Christian long, long, long ago.

And yet for some reason, these people continue to, for some strange, odd motivation, pretend to be Christians, even though they've gutted the faith. And so here is this quote, unquote woman minister, um, false teacher fraud all the way along.

I'm just, I'm just gonna be honest with you. Some people, you're just so harsh. We'll listen to what she's going to say. And you'll, you'll go, okay, you were being nice. Um, and I think the reason that it was sent to me on Twitter only a few hours ago, how do you like this for service?

Okay. I'm hoping that the person that sent this to me is going, man, I sent that tweet a few hours ago and boom, we're doing a dividing line. How's that? Yeah. Okay. Um, so the, the whole thing in the background, this check could be in Sedona and she'd fit it real well.

If you don't know what Sedona is, Sedona is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. I'll be honest with you really, really is a red rock country up in the middle of the state of Arizona. But the, the, the new age wackos took it over for the harmonic convergence.

I don't even remember what year that was, but they took it over and then they decided to stay. And so if you want crystals and every kind of new age, woo woo ism, uh, you can find it in Sedona. And this chick looks like she lives there or something, the background and everything else.

It's true. Um, but the reason it was sent to me is if I recall, she's some kind of super leftist, liberal, uh, Lutheran up in Canada. Um, and she makes a claim about the text history of the ending of the gospel of Matthew.

Now, what's interesting is a lot of groups will make claims like that. The one that's Pentecostals will make claims about the ending of the gospel of Matthew, the great commission and baptizing, especially their concern, the UPCI, the one that's Pentecostals, their concern is baptizing them in the name of father, son, Holy spirit, because they baptized in the name of Jesus only.

And so there have been people who have advanced the theory that the ending of Matthew, uh, is a later edition. This woman loves to talk about new Testament scholarship. She's a little bit like Shabir Ali in this way.

Shabir Ali will quote any scholar, no matter how wildly out of bounds they are, no matter, you know, if they're a plane that have two left wings, whatever, and he'll quote them. And then within 30 seconds, that's now scholarship has spoken.

Uh, this happens a lot. Um, I'll leave out anybody else for now, but certain recent people I've had interaction with and fall into the same category, but new Testament scholars have determined this, that, or the other thing.

This works with a lot of people because most Christians aren't sitting around reading new Testament scholarship. And if the church that you are normally serving in, notice, I didn't say attending. If you're in a church and you'd be serving them and you say, well, my schedule doesn't allow me to serve.

You can always find a way to serve you. Let me tell you something. This is a free sermon that has nothing to do with what I'm about to show you. If you go to your church with the attitude that today I am going to serve Christ by serving others in this body, you know what's going to happen.

You're going to find out that you are not easily offended by everything everyone says and does around you. You're going to become one of the people that's an encouragement to the pastor, not a discouragement, and you're going to spread joy and love everywhere you go.

Just a little, a little suggestion there. Before you go to church next time, pray, Lord, you know, hey, if you want to use the old make me an instrument of your peace, go ahead, but just put legs on it.

Let me serve you today amongst your people. Changes everything because there are those people who do come in, to be perfectly honest with you, with a chip on their shoulder going, I dare you to offend me or say to those of us who have to bring the Word of God, I dare you to bless me.

And then at the end, you didn't bless me. Okay. Yeah. That was sort of expected. That's how that works. Anyhow, what were we talking about? Oh, yes. Crazy lady here. So she quotes New Testament scholarship and literally says that the end of Matthew was added around the time of the Council of Nicaea.

Okay. So we have at some point in time, I don't remember. This was probably before we were doing the tag. I know it was before we were doing the tagging stuff. And so I do remember and maybe Rich can pull something up, but I remember a dividing line we did where I addressed this rather fully and had, I brought up the textual data and all that kind of stuff.

And we talked a little bit about it. But the reality is that it's real easy for people to make accusations about textual changes to the beginnings and especially the ends of books. And there's a reason for that.

This is one of those opportunities where, again, I get to talk about textual criticism and I get to do what I think the Lord has called me to try to do for a lot of people. And that is give you a foundation that you're generally not gonna get anyplace else.

Not that I'm the only person who knows this stuff, but I'm the only person dumb enough to think it's entertaining on a webcast. So that works. I'm sitting in a fifth wheel in Wyoming talking to about this.

So put that all together. Anyway, why would the beginning and the end of a book be the easiest ones to make accusations about? Because of the nature of the transmission of texts over time and specifically Christian texts.

Think about a scroll. A scroll, you could see some way in which the beginning and the end of a scroll could be endangered, depending on how the scroll was rolled up. If you roll it up where the beginning to open it, it's right there, then yeah, that's now the outer part of the scroll and that could be damaged.

But some scrolls you read all the way through and then you left it there. And so now it's the end that's the outer part because it's been rolled between the two staves. And so you could have damage there too.

But the thing that I think you all should know, and I don't care if you're a new believer, I talked to a couple, they're just brand new believers. I talked to a bunch of really brand new believers. Can you tell?

It is encouraging to me to get out again and shake hands and see people and hear their stories. And a fellow said that my stuff, my material is so important to him in his Roman Catholic background and then coming out of the UPCI, coming out of this Pentecostalism.

And oh, by the way, we don't have them yet, but there's now a Spanish edition of the Forgotten Trinity. We probably need to get some of those. We need to have some of those available to give to folks because I can't, I don't know how many times I've had people requesting that one.

It looks real good too. So that's exciting. But anyway, I think even new believers need to have these basic foundations underneath them. And if you're not getting it at church, then I'm really happy to help try to provide it in this context.

I really, really am. So here's the issue. Christians didn't like these scrolls. We've only found about half a dozen of them of Christian scriptures. And we don't know why. There are theories, fascinating stuff that you can read about, you know, why this may have been and stuff like that.

But the reality is the vast majority of manuscripts of the New Testament are codices. It's in the codex form, the modern book form. That was not the most common way of doing books in that day at all. So the fact that Christians for some reason seem to do this, like I said, has caused a lot of consternation and theorizing and everything else in the process.

But when you think about a codex, it's real easy to understand how, especially a papyrus, a papyri codex, which is what you have almost, you know, for the first three centuries, almost completely just that.

And they go, we have papyri that date into the 8th and 9th centuries, actually, before they're pretty much completely replaced by parchment, vellum, that type of thing. But when you think about ancient, ancient books, when you think about books you own, if you're, well, as old as I am, and we're buying books when you're in your teens, a lot of the paper back then is yellowed and edges have been damaged.

And of course, the problem we have is the cheapness of the way that we bind our books together. So, you know, I'm thinking about one of my early chess books, there was a really good Reinhart, Reinhart, Reinhart, anyway, thinking ahead in chess, I think is what it was called.

And the spine broke, and it was that cheap glue, you know, so you'd have an entire section of edges, it would just fall out. And similar things happen with the codices, as well, historically. But what we discover when we look at our early papyri, is even, and I've shown this picture before, I'm not gonna do it right now, because I have shown it on the program before.

But when you look at P66, for example, which is one of our earliest papyri manuscripts of the Gospel of John, we have the beginning of the Gospel of John, but the end is extremely fragmentary. Remember when I responded that one Muslim apologist that was saying, hey, P66 doesn't have John 2028 in it.

Well, it has portions of it. But P66 is extremely fragmentary at the end of John. But we have the beginning, we have John 1 -1, but that's because it had material before that, it wasn't just a copy of John.

You had Luke, and it was all four Gospels, initially, anyways. And so obviously, then, the first part of the book would be safe inside, if there was a book before it. Or the reverse situation would be the end of the book might be safe because there's a book coming after.

All of that to say that we don't have papyri materials yet. There's always interesting discoveries being made. But we do not have papyri materials for Matthew 28 -19 and following. So the earliest we have is Sinaiticus.

And Sinaiticus is 325 -350. So some might say, oh, so maybe it was added. What is wrong with that kind of argumentation? Well, it should be fairly obvious that if you're trying to be honest and fair in your analysis of an ancient document such as the Gospel of Matthew, and we do have papyri, early papyri, of other portions of Matthew that read just as Codex Sinaiticus reads, and we do, for example, I call it mine, but it's not mine, personally.

But we've spent a lot of time talking about P45. There are portions of the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Acts in P45, but not the beginnings or ends of any of those books. All that has survived was internal to those particular individual books, even though they were once one codex that had five books in it.

And why that is, just think of all the different ways to destroy papyrus in 2000 years. Humidity, and water, and fire, and war, all highly effective ways of destroying manuscripts. And the Romans. The Romans did a real good job, especially between 303 and 313, in destroying tens of thousands of manuscripts and copies of the Christian scriptures during the Great Persecution at that time.

And had been doing that earlier as well, but really got professional at it at that particular point in time. So when you look at Matthew 28, we have earlier manuscript evidence than almost any other work of antiquity would have for its text.

But critics don't care about that. They are not going to allow the New Testament to be compared with other books of antiquity, because that's not going to fit their purposes. So Sinaiticus, very, very early.

And Alexandrinus, maybe 75 years later. But again, extremely early. But we do have papyri that contain portions of the Gospel of Matthew that read just as Sinaiticus does. So the burden of proof is upon the theorist, who is theorizing that anything has been taken out or added in.

Now, there are, there's more to this than that. I don't have time to go into it right now. Again, because we just, I pulled in, put the struts down, connected up the water and electricity and got in here, we got to it.

It's fascinating. Dan Wallace has some articles on this, as do others. And I don't, there's something telling me that in the book that Peter Gurry was involved with about two years ago now, on common errors that apologists make in regards to New Testament stuff.

Either that or something related to that, there was a discussion of how you can, even in an incomplete manuscript, it's fascinating, but unfortunately involves a whole lot of math, figure out what might or might not have been in a particular of finished codices, given the number of pages.

If you can figure out what the number of pages, sometimes you can, because the pages may be missing, but some of the spine is still there. And so you figure out the average number of letters that this particular scribe utilized and how much that would take up.

And it's fascinating, really is fascinating. There's it's quite complex, but there are some super geeks out there that that's what they do. And they work through this stuff and go, yeah, this, this probably was not a part of the reading of this manuscript because we, we know it picks up here and there just wasn't enough space for it to have been, to have been there and, or vice versa, that there was plenty of space for it.

So this, this particular manuscript can't help us one way or the other. It depends, but fair people do that kind of analysis. What you need to understand is that when liberals, I haven't even played this chick.

When liberals make these kinds of claims, they're normally not talking about what's called lower criticism, which is what text criticism is, where you're dealing with actual manuscripts, where you actually have something to look at.

You can collate manuscripts and you can, you can check out readings, things like that. They're normally talking about quote unquote, higher criticism, which is all theoretical. You don't have to have any facts.

You don't have to have any manuscript. You just theorize that it wants read such and such. So I do need to at least play some of this for you. It's eight and a half minutes long. I don't think I can play all that though.

The whole thing's sort of worth listening to, but at least this, this thing, I want you to hear it. So share screen and share and Rich, let me know if this is going to work. Here we go.

This prescribed reading is known by the church as the great commission. Now I deliberately did not read the great commission. And indeed I doubt that I will ever again, read the great commission.

And publicly claim it as the gospel over the, I'm not going to bother with the share screen thing. Just don't have time to, but did you hear that? I will never read it again and claim it as the to be the gospel, claim it to be the gospel.

Yeah. I know it's still on share. I'm not going to bother going back and forth. Just don't have the time to I'm not going to claim this to be the gospel. That's absolutely astonishing. I mean, I mean, this is the, you are listening to the voice of apostasy.

You should have known that from the start, but here is what apostate Christianity looks like and how it speaks many years of study. I have come to believe that many years of study, I can guarantee you this woman couldn't collate a manuscript.

If you put a gun to her head, no way she has no textual critical background at all called great commission is.