Atheists Don't Exist

The Hope Within Us and Why Unbelievers Cannot Defend Their Position

Alright guys, so. And no, we're not going to do that. So tonight is night two if you were not here last night, I want to ask. Is there anybody who was here who can tell me and tell the rest of us? What's the one main takeaway from last night?

Does anybody remember the one main thing that we talked about last night? Yeah. Well, that's we're going to talk about tonight. But last night I said this. I said you can't defend What you don't possess.

You can't defend what you don't possess and the Bible says that we are to give a defense for what? No, not for our belief. That's that's a good guess, but we're to give it a defense for the hope that is within us and If the hope isn't within us, then we can't give a defense now.

I did say something last night I want to clarify. I said if you're not a believer than the rest of this week isn't for you what I meant by that Is defending the faith is not something you do until you actually possess the faith.

But that doesn't mean that the rest of what I'm going to say doesn't apply in the sense of you learning it. What I'm saying is until you become a Christian, you're not defending what you have. If anything you're just arguing about speculation.

Right until you actually come to the Lord Jesus Christ and believe on him through repentance and faith. You're not defending something you have. You might be defending something your parents have. You might be defending something your friends have but you're not Defending what you have and the Bible says we're to give a defense for the hope that is within us.

Right, so that's the point and that was last night. And what we said is over the next three nights beginning with tonight. We're going to be looking at three categories of objections to the Christian faith tonight.

Romans 1 and the Suppression of the Truth About God

We're going to be looking at the existence and nature of God and what I told you last night was what that young man just said. Back there. This is slam-dunk. I tell you what we get to the pool quick.

Because this is a slam-dunk now the person and work of Christ takes a little bit more history and Theology to understand and defend and the nature and reliability of scripture is going to be a little bit more but but tonight and I'm not Saying that we ain't got a lot of stuff to cover tonight.

But what I am saying is this. Everybody already knows that God exists and anybody who tells you different is suppressing the truth and unrighteousness. Open your Bibles to Romans chapter 1. We're going to read Romans chapter 1.

We're going to begin at verse 18. We're going to read down to verse 23, and then we're going to pray. We're going to focus mainly on verse 20. But I want to read at least 18 and 23 to grab the context of what Paul is saying.

Paul begins with a very popular topic the wrath of God. That was kind of a joke. Notice what he says beginning in verse 18. He says for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven. Against all unright ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.

For what can be known about God is plain to them because God has shown it to them for his invisible attributes. Namely his eternal power and divine nature. Have been clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world in the things that have been made.

So they are without excuse. For although they knew God They did not honor him as God nor give thanks to him. But they became futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened claiming to be wise they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things Father in heaven.

I thank you for your word. I Want to first ask that you would keep me from error as Lord God, I pray every time I preach. I know how fallible I am, but how perfect your word is. So Lord let your word be put on display and keep me from saying things which would not be in keeping with that word.

I Pray for the young people in this room Lord. Those who know you I pray that this would give them a greater ability to make a defense for the hope that is within them. And Lord for those who do not know you I pray that this would confront them in their unbelief.

That they would recognize that not only they know God exists in their heart but Lord God they are living in rebellion and Lord God that they would turn from that and turn to the Savior the only one who can save us The Lord Jesus Christ and I pray this in his name and for his sake.

Amen, so as I said last night, I've Studied and taught on apologetics for a long time and Many years ago. I I became settled. This is one of the most important apologetics passages in the Bible Romans chapter 1 verses 18 to 23 specifically verse 20 and It's important Because it tells us something about the nature of man.

It tells us That men and women that's a generic man mankind men who deny God's existence are not just Neutral or free thinkers or you know just Just haven't been convinced. It's what a lot of people think.

You know, this tells us that people who do not believe in the existence of God are actually in denial. Because they know God exists and they suppress that truth. And notice something I want to. I want to be very clear about this.

They do not lack evidence one of the things that. And for those who know what this means I'm a presupposition list. Not an evidential list. I don't deny the value evidence, but I do believe that we have to have a starting point with some basic presuppositions for instance CS Lewis said if I didn't believe my brain was created for thinking I would have no reason to believe my own thought.

Now think about that that's what's called a scientific axiom. It means it's believed without being proven because you can't prove it you can't prove your brain is made for thinking. All you can do is think right?

You can't step out of your brain to prove that it's made for thinking because that's the only brain you got right. So an axiom of science is that my brain was made for thinking therefore I can trust my thoughts.

Right. What do we say to something? What do we say about people who can't trust their thoughts? Something's wrong with her brain. The brain's sick. They're crazy. They're psychotic. Whatever, right? But we say the average person thinks thoughts and he trusts his own thoughts.

That's what science is all about, right? We we measure things we study things we do all that for what purpose? To convince ourselves that something is true or not true why. Because we believe we can come up with that conclusion based on our own thoughts and Lewis was making and again, I'm not a huge fan of CS Lewis and as we were in regarding theology.

But I'm a huge fan of him and regarding his writing. I think he was a tremendous Storyteller and One of the things that he said in his teaching on us. He said listen. He said imagine a milk jug was spilled out on a table and it drew out the map of London.

That wouldn't make any sense. He said if the milk jug poured out water milk just gonna go everywhere. It's not gonna make a map. It's not gonna have any sense. It's just gonna go wherever gravity takes it.

He said I would have just as much reason to believe that I could upset a milk carton and it would spell out the map Of London and to think my brain came together accidentally to give me the proper thoughts that I have in my mind.

So that's why I'm a pre-substantialist. I believe there are certain axioms that I have to. I have to at least come to the table believing certain things. And the Bible tells me that every man knows that God exists.

In fact, every man knows God exists so much. According to this verse. That they are and I'm going to write the word up here. I'm going to write it for you in the original language. Somebody's been messing with my blue.

All right. All right, all right this word is unapologetic. Big word unapologetic. What's the root of unapologetic? Yeah, well, it's yeah same root. Apologetics means to do what class to give a defense what happens when you put on a primitive at the beginning of something.

It makes it the opposite right when you say you're a theist if you put the alpha primitive beginning makes it an Atheist means you don't believe in God, right? That's what atheists is. At least they think so.

On apologies, this is putting this statement in front of the word apologetics. And it says they are without defense. Now, how are they without defense if a man tells you? That God doesn't exist. One day he's going to face God and he is going to be without defense because God made Himself known to that man and that man has no defense.

I Heard of atheists one time very famous atheist. He said when I die if I find out God exists I'm gonna look him in the eye and I'm gonna say I had no reason to believe in you because you didn't give me enough evidence.

Sorry, that's how I responded. Ha you're not gonna you're gonna you're not gonna face God and say anything. You're going to be you know, the word prostrate means. Means face down. Right, you're going to be facedown before the Lord of Glory.

Recognizing that your whole life you spent denying the very one who made himself known to you from the very moment that you came into this world and You will be without defense. You're not gonna you're not going to be able to offer up a defense for yourself.

You're not going to be able to take the stand and give evidences against God. You are going to be crushed under the weight of his majesty. There is no excuse according to the Apostle Paul. Who I tend to agree with, you know, because he was part of the writing of this thing.

We call the Bible. According to the Apostle Paul there is no excuse for not believing in the invisible God. By the way, the title of tonight's lesson is defending the invisible God and as I already said God has made himself known the invisible has made himself known.

Therefore this defense is actually fairly easy and What I'm going to teach you tonight is actually a fairly easy apologetic. Goes sort of something like this. I don't believe in God. Sure you do. That's not that easy.

But I have said that before I told you guys last night about the Fishing hole, right? We have that we have a booth that we go and we set up at Fairs and stuff like that and we have this booth and that man.

We talked to thousands of people and I stand out there and I hand out tracks and I talk to folks and I hand a track. To a young man one time. He says I don't want this. I don't believe in God. I said sure you do.

You don't even know me. I don't have to know you. I know the God who created you and he put the knowledge of himself within you. We had a 30-minute conversation. Was there some tit-for-tat was there some back-and-forth?

Yes. But at the end of the day took the track home with him. Because he recognized that I wasn't gonna put up with that nonsense. That's all it is. Atheism is nonsense. By the way, like I said last night.

It's only makes up 3 of the world atheism. It is the least likely thing you're going to run into you're much more likely to run into a Mormon Jehovah Witness a Muslim. Maybe not here in Central, Florida.

You very very very likely to run into Mormons and stuff though and. But running into an atheist, you know, maybe you'll go to college maybe you'll run into some atheists there. But even there you're gonna find it's not as popular as as people think.

We see guys like Christopher Hitchens who is now dead. So we don't see him anymore. But we see guys like Richard Dawkins and men who are popular level atheists and we think oh man. They represent such a large swath of people even atheists don't like those guys.

You have to understand when somebody says well, I don't believe in God. They are denying what is according to the Bible so obvious that there's no defense for for believing that. In fact, you understand that it's only been in the last hundred and fifty years or so.

That atheism has even been really in the in the market of ideas in Fact Richard Dawkins actually one of the one of the atheists has come out. Richard Dawkins did say this he said that it was because of Darwin who was the one who popularized the idea of Evolution yet was that you're gonna say Yes.

Yes he studied finches on the Galapagos Islands and he noticed that different finches had different size beaks because of their mating habits feeding habits things like that and he determined that that was a type of Change which that's what word evolution means is change and therefore he argued that all of us have come from a single ancestor.

So Darwin's theory was not new evolution's been around for a long time. But Darwin's theory was this was that that we all descended from a single ancestor. So Darwinian evolution is that we all came from the same single-celled organism and it's just been branched out over billions of years.

Well Richard Dawkins said that Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist. Here listen again what he was saying. He was saying up until the time of Darwin. You really couldn't be an intellectually fulfilled atheist because there was no real way to believe that this came about accidentally.

But Darwin comes along he gives this fanciful of an idea of how it could have come about accidentally and therefore people Gravitated towards that began to believe in that and now he says you can be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.

I'm here to tell you you can't but that's what he says. He says if you believe in Darwin, you can be an intellectually fulfilled atheist. The problem is Darwinism doesn't work either. But it's amazing what people will believe if they don't want to believe in God and let me tell you this.

We talk about atheism. I'm going to tell you what an atheist is. An atheist is not a person who doesn't believe in God. An atheist is a person Who doesn't want to believe in God? That's the difference people say oh atheists are just neutral people who don't believe in God.

No, they are people who do not want to believe in God and when you don't want to believe in something. You will do anything in the world to prove it. You guys ever heard about the man who believed he was dead.

You've heard this story. Who hasn't that's enough for me to tell the story. Okay, just making sure I don't know if everybody heard I'll move on. There was a guy who believed he was dead. That sounds stupid but go with me on this he believed that he was dead.

He told his wife I died and I'm dead. She said no, you're not you're up. You're walking around you breathing you ate breakfast. You're not dead. No, no, honey. I'm convinced. She said well, I'm gonna take you to the doctor because something's wrong with you.

So she took him to the doctor. Doctor sits down with him. Runs a test his heart's beating. Hey, man, your heart's beating. I'm dead. Got a pulse man. You got a pulse. I am dead. I Can hear breath entering and exhaling from your mouth.

You are alive. I am dead. This guy was convinced He was dead. So The doctor said listen. Dead men don't bleed. That's actually a fact you look it up if you want to. I used to work in a funeral home. That's true.

You cut a cadaver. It doesn't bleed. Dead men don't bleed and He goes. Oh really? He said yeah, he showed him in a medical textbook dead men don't bleed. He convinced them that dead men don't bleed. And the guy was like, okay.

You convinced me to which the doctor took out a needle and poked him in the arm and blood starts pouring out of his arm. He said look at that dead men bleed after all. You see people Will believe will convince themselves and once they've convinced themselves they are.

They are sold and you and that's the tough part people say I don't believe God exists. They don't want to believe God exists. You say why would a man not want God to exist? Well There's an old saying and I don't remember who said it.

I believe it was a Protestant theologian, but I could be wrong about that. I just tend to believe that because I like them. But he said If there is no God all things are permissible. If there is no God all things are permissible.

And think about the world we live in right now. Don't we live in a world that wants everything to be permissible? Don't we live in a world that does not want to live under the authority of anyone or anything?

Don't we live in a world that says I can be anything I want to even a snapping turtle doesn't matter. I'm bit because all I got to do is declare it. Now you laugh at me. What's any different that me stand up here and say and I'm a six foot tall black woman.

I don't make any sense neither, but that's the kind of crazy stuff people say. Right people say things and it ain't right, but we are expected to listen to them. Why because there's no authority. They say I am and I went into myself and when I say it I declared and it is Like Michael Scott declaring he was bankrupt.

That's for you office fans. One guy. Thank you. You can't just say you're bankrupt. I didn't say it I declared it. Okay. Sorry. That's it. All right. Yeah, when you derail you got to bring it back right there.

Okay, I bring it back. So when we talk about this subject. When we talk about the idea of talking to someone about God and them saying I don't believe in God or maybe that's maybe that's some of you. And I want you to know I'm not trying to be insulting tonight I'm not coming up here and I'm not trying to trying to you know, give you a piece of ice.

It was just touching somebody's foot. I ain't trying to do that to you. I Am I'm trying to point out the reason why there's no defense. Because that's what God said through the Apostle Paul, there's no defense for that.

There's absolutely no defense for that years ago I was um There's some houses behind our church and I was walking around House to house handing out gospel tracts. I'm a real big fan of gospel tracts. And if you don't know why come and talk to me sometime, I really think they're usable I think God uses them and they're important and I was handing out gospel tracts at at house to house just walking up hand it.

You know going on to the next house. Well the guy He said to me He said man, I'm an atheist and at the time I was I was a little uncomfortable you ever get uncomfortable. I get uncomfortable all the time and I was a little uncomfortable.

I didn't want to argue with a man on his own steps. All right. So I took the track back and I walked on kind of had my tail tucked between my legs kind of like, you know Be a puppy and I went back got in my truck drove around for a little while and I realized I Can't let it go.

I Can't I can't leave it at that. So I went back. I Walk up to the guy's house. Not know you up. Hello. You're back. Yes. I have to tell you this. I know you told me you're an atheist. I just want you to know That is not true.

Am I am I saying are you saying I'm a liar? No, I'm not saying you're a liar, but I am saying this the Bible says That you are currently suppressing the truth and unrighteousness that what can be known about God namely his invisible attributes and his divine nature have been clearly perceived and the things that have been made and Every time you walk out of your house and you see the Sun or you see the moon or you see trees or you see Grass or you see your children or your grandchildren that is testimony to you that there is a God who made you.

I'd like to say he fell on his knees and trust in Jesus. He did not. But at least I got to tell him that I got to interact with what he said more than just okay. All right. Everybody turn to Psalm 19 and you ought to know this one because you're studying it in your memory verses.

In fact right now for a hundred cool points who can stand up without looking at their Bible and quote Psalm 19 verse 1. Do it. Okay, I thought I had one up. I thought you were saying yes nobody. Thank you.

You get a hundred cool points. Those are worth nothing. To anyone but me they worth it to me. Thank you. What's your name? Charles you got a hundred cool points. Okay Charles is right the heavens declare the glory of God in the sky above proclaim his handiwork if you're there.

I want to keep reading though. It says day to day pours out speech and night to night reveals knowledge. There is no speech nor are there words whose voice is not heard. Their voice goes out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world in them.

He has set a tent for the Sun which comes out like a bridegroom leaving its chamber and like a strong man runs its course with Joy, it's rising is from the end of the heavens and its circuit to the end of them and there is nothing hidden from its heat.

Now that's poetic. So let me break down poetry. I'm not real good with poetry, but I understand this. What he is saying? It's the heavens and that doesn't mean God's house. We always think like heaven is where God lives.

No, the heavens in this particular context is the sky above us and He says the heavens declare the glory of God and last time I was here a couple of years ago I did the five solos and the last one is solely dough glory and I explained what glory is.

Glory is God's holiness on display. Demonstrating God's power and magnificence and his might that's what his holiness on display is and that's his glory. And the Bible says the heavens declare the glory of God and the sky above Declares his handiwork, but then it goes into verse 2.

It's his day today. It pours out speech and night to night it reveals knowledge. What that means is every single day and every single night God's glory is on display. Every person everywhere you go you can't escape it.

And that's what he says if the voice goes out through all the earth and the Sun is like a preacher the Sun. We know that we are going around the Sun and the earth is turning towards the Sun and away from the Sun but from our perspective the Sun comes up in the morning goes down the evening, right and What he's saying is the Sun is like a preacher the Sun gets up in the morning.

He rises and he comes up and he spends all day going across the sky. Until he goes to bed at night and that is a symbol of a preacher crying out. Look at me. Look at the majesty of God. Look at what I put on display.

Cuz guess what you ever seen those pictures on the internet would show you how small we are compared to the Sun. Like the earth is here and the Sun's here. Guess what? God's bigger than all that. So when we see the Sun and we say wow, look at that giant floating burning orb.

Look at this big thing and we see this and it's it's hot. And we feel its heat. Even though it's billions of light-years away. We can feel it weird and we say that is not an accident. That came about by some design there is.

There is an amazing symmetry in the world that causes us to step back and say this. This bears the handprints of a designer. I Went to a Hospital years and years ago and the man who was in the hospital had just had his intestines removed.

He hadn't had a terrible disease and he was now going to live the rest of his life with a bag on his body because of his. Because of this disease that he had had in his intestines terrible terrible thing.

He was an atheist. I knew this because he was related to somebody in my family. He did not ask me to come my family member asked me to come and all the preachers in the room. Y 'all know what that's like.

Hey, can you go talk to somebody who don't want to see you? Oh, by the way, he's having the worst day of his life. Sure. We'd love to go. That's what we do. So I get up and go to the hospital to see the man who doesn't want to see me on the absolute worst day of his life.

Walk in the room he does not look happy to see me, but I began to strike up a cordial conversation with him and He was nice to me and we had a nice maybe five minute of you know. How are you feeling which is the worst thing to ask you on the worst day of his life?

But I asked it anyway, how you feeling bad? Okay, and he brought up God and I was thankful. Because I knew he didn't believe in God at least he said he didn't. I would clarify said he was naked. Didn't want to believe in God and he said you know what?

I came to your church a few years ago, and I didn't like it. Thanks. Of course you didn't but I don't get into that. He said I came to your church a few years ago. I didn't like it. I Said okay, why? Well, I came and you preached on hell and I think that was very nice.

Okay. So I let that one go. I'm not here to argue hell, but I did circle back. I Guess I said, okay. So, let me ask you a question. You're sitting in front of a big window. The hospital bed was turned toward the window and the window was open.

So I walked over to the window and I pointed at a building across the street very nice big tall Building 15 floors or so big tall building. I Said hey, man, you see that he said yeah. I said how do you suppose that got there?

He said what do you mean? I said well, do you think somebody built that? He said well, of course somebody built that. I said you think it had a designer. He said yeah. I said you think it had an architect?

Yeah, I said you think it had workers laborers. It came and put the bricks down and all this stuff. I said you think that happened. He said well, of course. I Said yeah, cuz you'd be a fool to look at that and think it came about all by itself, right?

And he got the thing. Yeah, I said your whole body. That is now crumbling does show evidence of design in fact the doctors who worked on you show evidence of design because their brains were smart enough to figure out how to take out all of your insides and replace it with a ziploc bag.

I Mean that takes some smarts, right? Yeah, you think that happened by accident? So now we're now we're talking. Because he's starting to he's starting to recognize the the unapologetic. He's starting to realize his his argument does not have a defense.

And before I left I said this. I said, you know what? You didn't like the sermon when you came to hear me preach years ago. Because I talked about hell I said but understand the reason I talked about hell is because it's real.

You may not like that it's real but what you believe and what you think doesn't change what's true. You not believe in gravity you stand on that building and jump off gravity is gonna kick your behind all the way down and then.

It's gonna smush you when you hit bottom. Because what you believe don't change what is? The heavens declare the glory of God. Everything we see around us is evidence. Telling us that God exists. How many of you have heard of the James Webb Space Telescope?

Okay, this is a new thing when I was a kid. It was the Hubble Space Telescope. That was a big deal. They sent this space telescope out into the universe and it sent back pictures that were amazing. And and and that's the pictures we've had for 40 years.

But just a few weeks ago They sent the James Webb Space Telescope that has given now through infrared technology a much clearer picture of the universe. Showing us the very handprints of God on everything that it's not just a molten mass of chaos, but it is a beautiful tapestry showing us a picture of the hands of God.

And If the universe is so magnificent and so vast, what does that tell you about the one who made it? That he is even greater and even more magnificent and. And some people will ask me well doesn't science tell us that we don't need a creator.

No, it does not. In fact, I want to introduce you to another term. Some of you may know what this is. Some of you may not. Metaphysics, I think I spelled it, right? I'll make sure be a little embarrassing if I did I misspelled it.

What is metaphysics you may know? All right, the word meta means above. All right. It's a prefix. Above or beyond something. All right, and Physics is how we understand the world. Physics is how we do science, right?

I Want to read to you the reason why I was explaining this is I want to read to you a quote this is from a book called the problem of God by Mark Clark and He is going to quote an evolutionary biologist named Stephen Jay Gould.

Now Stephen Jay Gould is not a believer. But he's quoting him to show when people say oh well science disproves God. It does not and it cannot and this is the reason why. Because science can only deal with the physical world.

Science cannot deal with that. Which is beyond the physical world. Science does not deal with the metaphysical world. It does not deal with anything beyond the physical. So listen to this quote. Science has come to terms with the fact that nothing it deduces.

Can re nothing it deduces about reality can really disprove the existence of God. Hear that again? Nothing, it proves about reality can disprove the existence of God. Why? Science studies the natural physical world, but the existence of God is what is called a metaphysical question.

God is being found beyond the physical world. Thus the question of his existence is beyond what physics can evaluate. Whatever power atheists think lies in science it by itself can speak cannot speak to the question of God's existence.

Harvard professor Stephen Jay Gould the most celebrated atheist evolutionary biologist paleontologist and historian of science of the last generation Understood this fact deeply arguing that nature listen to what he said.

This is the the greatest mind of the other side says this nature just is. We cannot use nature for our moral instruction or for answering any question within the magisterium of religion. To say it for my colleagues and for the umpteenth million time.

Science cannot by its legitimate methods Adjudicate the issue of God's possible superintendents of nature. We neither affirm it nor deny it. We simply cannot comment to comment on it as scientists. Science Cannot prove the existence of God.

It cannot disprove the existence of God because it only deals with the physical and God made the physical. Therefore he's not a part of creation. By the way understand that God is not part of creation.

God is outside of creation. Everything that is created was created by him and therefore he's not part of it. If you believe God's part of creation that's called pantheism. God's the trees. God's the air.

God's the bushes. No, that's not Christian theism. That is pantheism. And that's not what the Bible teaches. So when we talk about science and religion and people say all science has disproven God it can't and it won't.

Because it's not even in the same. It's not even the same classification of ideas. In fact, maybe you've heard this one. Maybe you've heard that over the years especially back during the Middle Ages the church persecuted scientists.

You've ever heard that. That the church and science have been at odds with one another. Let me read to you another quote. This is from historian David Lindbergh. Speaking about the medieval period where in these supposed persecutions of science took place.

He says this there was no warfare between science and the church. Historians agree the science versus religion story and a 19th century is a 19th century fabrication. The church did not persecute Those who taught scientific theories.

Now we could argue. People say what about Galileo. Wasn't Galileo persecuted because he believed in a heliocentric universe meaning the Sun's in the middle. Let me read you this. Galileo was a friend of the church for most of his life.

He was a practicing Catholic and in 1616 he came to Rome. He met with the Pope multiple times as time went on. He did become more critical of the church and its views and the church did persecute Galileo, but here's how.

Here's how he was never charged with heresy. He was never placed in a dungeon. He was never tortured. All that is popular mythology. Here's what happened. He was on house arrest in In the custody of Archbishop of Siena who housed him in his palace for five months didn't let him go home.

Yeah, that's that's some terrible persecution. He got to live in a palace for five months then he went home to Vienna. Well, I'm sorry. He returned to his villa in Florence. Excuse me continuing his scientific work.

He even published his scientific work before he died of natural causes in 1642 wasn't burned to the stake. Wasn't killed for his ideas. The church didn't like what he was saying. They had some disagreements and there were some issues but the whole idea all what Galileo was just punished and persecuted.

No, guess where the greatest advancements in science and art were in the world before the 19th century. In the church in the church. Yes. According to this he died of natural causes in 1642. You don't know about that one.

Okay. Well, I'll tell you what later on. We'll Google it. How about that? Cuz Google's the answer to everything. One more quote. I hate reading quotes because if you could read this for yourself, but let me just finish with this one.

This is Oxford professor Alistair McGrath. And he says this the idea that science and religion are in perpetual Conflict is no longer taken seriously by any major historian of science. One of the last remaining bastions of atheism which survives only at the popular level.