Movie Reviews, Kentucky Baptists, SQUIRREL!, Oh, Uh, and Ehrman

And greetings welcome to the dividing line. It is a monday an unusual day for the dividing line uh the plan is to go fairly long today got a lot to talk about however i'm just letting you know right now this is my phone yes it is a nice phone i yes i gave in after years years of being a droid guy i have an iphone 6s.

It's it's it's quite a piece of equipment love it. It is on and the ringer is on and it's going to stay on because in fact you'll probably hear it making little noises during the course of the program today because that's what it does very frequently and i will look at it.

And i normally don't do that during the program but the reality is that uh my daughter is uh is pregnant and is due on thursday. And as you may know um when you're that close uh three days i could get a phone call and if i get a phone call instead of being a jumbo or a mega dividing line this could be a mini dividing line.

So i'm just letting you know right up doesn't matter what we're talking about we could be right in the middle of the most interesting video on the planet unless rich wants to take over and um review bart erman or whatever uh then it's just the way it is so just to say you know you will be hearing little noises i haven't forgotten it it's purposeful but that's just the way that it is.

So letting you know right up front uh don't text message doc not summer that i don't understand that but anyway so there you go all right got a lot to get to today. See see there was a there was there was a ding right there and uh that of course was red and channel uh who just wants you know that's his way of turning the lights off or you know doing whatever else uh you know people like him do um anything to interrupt what is important that's going on.

Yeah is what is what alan that's his real name you know that guy calls from georgia. Yeah that's same guy it's just one of those you know people that you know during this this life in this world we we just have to put up with them because sanctification is not complete in this life and someday someday so here it's here it starts there you i should have shouldn't let that go all right.

Anyway um let's start by offending lots of folks. Why not uh i have a feeling we're gonna be doing that a lot anyways um saw a movie last week i've been asked what i thought about it and i'm gonna play a portion of the trailer for the movie and then i'll give you my very honest thoughts on the film and um some of you will like that and some of you will not and that's just the way that goes.

So uh you ready in there uh with the uh super duper uh thingy here let's uh let's see how it uh let's see how it works well doug's got to be brave to go into that kind of thing just so you know there's nothing wrong with your screen it's just the um the methodology of this particular film and others like it is sort of like lens flares in star trek.

Okay it's all jumpy jumpy cut everywhere type you know black and white this really artsy really artsy okay for people my age not the best but just so you know you don't have to jump up and adjust your rabbit ears of course you're old enough to let rabbit ears anyways as a gay instructor as an atheist i mean i don't think we ever.

Had a security plan a security plan for doug before. It's an assertion of by raw power by claiming victimhood rebellion. You're a racist you're a sexist and you're anti-gay racist sexist anti-gay. Douglas wilson go away right.

And it's stated in such a way as to rhyme.

Okay i was gonna stop before then. Sorry about that. Um i didn't realize it had been going that long huh. There was a fair amount of profanity uh in the film um and i'll be perfectly honest with you as long as it was the protesters doing their thing and i didn't have any problem with it.

There was a point however where i think that it was a rap song. I generally can't understand what's being said in most rap songs honestly. But it seemed to me that there was one time where it was just doug wilson's face with a rap song in the background.

That was dropping a lot of profanity. I could be wrong because sometimes i can't understand what's being said. But anyway the free speech apocalypse. I saw it thursday night and uh appreciated the invitation to go do that and saw it with some some cool folks.

Let's start off with um with the positives and then go to the negatives. Um some of you will remember that when douglas wilson went and did that presentation uh we played a bunch of this stuff. Remember the young girl her dad stand there and the about 13 year old girl and the exchange that he had with her.

And we we played that and went through it and provide you know further response to it. And um you know and they went through a lot. They played a lot of that material. Uh in the beginning of the film the first i don't know 35 40 of the film was pretty much about that particular uh encounter.

How it came about. Um there was some footage i had not seen about what's going on outside. One of the things that was fascinating was that many of these people showed up with makeup on to make them look like they had been abused and beaten.

Uh one thing that certainly uh was made very very clear to me is these people know how to uh project the image of victimhood when they're not the victims they they use it as a means of power and to silence others.

No question about it. That was that was definitely something to be reminded of. Uh is their constant drum beat of victimhood victimhood victimhood. You see it all the time. Uh you know and it's gotten so bad that uh if if anything doesn't go the way of the homosexual cabal the first thing you hear is you will have blood on your hands.

Uh because of the young people who will commit suicide as a result. Never even thinking that that might say something about homosexuality not about me but about homosexuality that might mean there's something fundamentally wrong with the concept of homosexuality.

And the practice of homosexuality you know doesn't suggest itself because we are the victims. And you you will celebrate us uh and and our sexuality. So that was that was very good. And i said back when this took place what was it 2013.

Ish somewhere around there wasn't that long ago but it was about about 2013. I think you know i said at the time said man you know hats off to doug wilson for going in there for keeping us cool keeping keeping calm.

Um you know there not too many people that can do that. I've been in similar situations um not quite that nasty in that sense. But you know um it's i understand the pressures that were there and and he did a um certainly there was a lot of there's there's every reason to be talking about the fact that the homosexual totalitarians are in control.

A couple days ago uh adam 4d the christian comic writer does a great job. Uh had a a comic pulled from facebook uh where he gave three examples of real bigoted biased anti-homosexual attitudes. And then the fourth part of his panel uh he had the christians saying i i believe this is against god's law and that it's sinful behavior.

And it was called not homophobia. They pulled it it was it was clearly making the distinction pulled it. You can't. The the totalitarians don't care about fairness truth accuracy honesty integrity. These are words that have no meaning in the totalitarian universe.

Um in their universe if it does not lead to the celebration the the universal celebration of homosexuality then it's bad. Even if it even if it's just tolerance. Tolerance is not good enough. Tolerance that's old that that's that's that's passe.

Tolerance isn't good enough. It must be celebration. You must say this is good this is right this is great this is wonderful. I celebrate you you you you you. Because that's what it's all about. Is you you you you you um and so there's much to be said about the fact that our university campuses are no longer places of free speech.

It's thought the thought police have taken over every university campus in america with the small exception of a few little places. And have we thought through what that means as far as education is concerned.

And we thought we thought through what it means that that these young people who cannot think critically have never been taught to think have been taught that thinking critically is a bad thing have been taught that their brainwashed way of thinking is actually thinking critically.

That's that the self-deception. It's amazing that these people will be in charge in a matter of years. And hence when we see the government doing insane things and we go well it can't keep going because that's insane.

No it can't keep going because insanity requires some kind of standard by which you can recognize that it's insanity. And that standard is disappearing. So there's there's much to be said about the subject of free speech.

Unfortunately only about 40 of the film was on that subject. Um then it just spun off into a bunch of other stuff. That's interesting. I mean there is a there is a big long discussion about lincoln slavery um an appropriate discussion of how the what's called the civil war the war between the states direct line direct historical line from that to the overarching federal power of the government today no question about that's where states rights disappeared.

That's where any of the controls that were originally intended to be a part of the constitutional system on an on a abusive overarching federal bureaucracy that's where that all fell apart. There's no question about that it really wasn't a good connection made to help you understand why all of a sudden we're talking about this.

But and at that point it just it just started trying to talk about everything under the sun and well let's just let's negatives. Artsy artsy artsy way too artsy. I don't like artsy. Okay. Um way too much doug wilson time i'm sorry doug wilson says many great things but i think if the producer could have done it he would have stuck a camera up his nose to get that angle.

You've got angles from up above you got angles from down below. You've got all this artsy artsy artsy stuff that just i'm just like really seriously i mean after a while it's you know what it is it it's like back when i discovered all the cool stuff you could do with powerpoint you know i mean you can make your text bounce in from over here and then it can bounce it from over there and it can spin.

And i had all these presentations for a while or just you know almost give you vertigo um because of all the stuff you can do and then we got past that and realized yeah you know you don't want to do a whole lot of that you know.

No yeah once once in a while if you want to emphasize something maybe you know but yeah so artsy artsy artsy way way way way way too artsy too much doug um way too much close-ups of doug i mean seriously it was a big screen you know it's just you know you know this type of that's why i say you know if you could have got up the nostrils you could have uh would have um the film was minimally half an hour too long maybe 45 minutes too long just too long.

Uh the first part moved along fairly well and then it just started slow motion and part of that was because it turned into a new saint andrews puff piece let's promote new saint andrews and so everybody who's on staff at new saint i don't remember if the janitor got interviewed but it might have been it would have fit.

I mean there's this one this is one lady she's staying in her garden watering your lawn talking to you about feminism and i'm just like you could have lost all of that and missed none of the point of the film at all.

Um or it could have all been done much easier than that. Um so you know the one guy they showed there had some interesting comments about how easy it is to get into universities things like that. There was some chuckles uh on on that one uh one of the guys on staff but most of the stuff was just completely unnecessary.

Uh didn't need to be there could have been a lot a lot a lot faster than it was uh like i said uh the profanity that was used by the protesters in bloomington i get it you want to show them for what they really are.

I i got i mean it was i don't know how in the world they got footage these people putting makeup on themselves to make them look like they had been beaten up but that was i was like wow uh that's that's amazing.

Um i i get that part but if i'm right and if during that one scene where it's just doug wilson and there's this this hip-hop rap thing in the background and if i'm right and that whoever it was was dropping profanity in that why why that that wasn't protesters that didn't get that anyway.

Um so all in all uh you know i i felt it was very poorly put together um tried to cover way way way way way way way too much ground and i don't i don't care there was there was a nice long presentation on post-millennialism at the end and stuff i i'm not criticizing that i mean we could debate that we could argue that i i've got my problems with some of the interpretation but i that didn't bother me.

That's that's where they're coming from. Fine whatever. Um just simply looking at it and going you know what's this supposed to accomplish and what could it have accomplished. I'd give it a c minus c minus.

I'm not sure if that's a rotten tomato or how many stars or any rest rest that kind of stuff but um i teach classes and uh so uh and i know that these days and no matter where i teach you give somebody a c anything and they're ready to have you lynched.

Um uh vast majority of students today expect walking through the door to to leave that class with an a and once you get to an a minus or a b now you're you're the terrible horrible mean nasty dude. So it's interesting um so c-minus for free speech apocalypse.

Um and it had nothing to do with the fact that while my car was parked in the parking lot during the film some bozo pulling couldn't lack the skills to pull out of the parking place next to me and about took my rear bumper off.

So um had nothing to do with i i i did not know that that had happened until after i reviewed the uh the film in my mind so so it didn't have anything to do with that even though if you are the one that did that i just want you to know that someday god will get you for that.

Um all right. Um um let's go to an audio thing now uh and i saw a note on facebook about an upcoming election in the southern baptist convention the kentucky state convention specifically and the two primary people one is a preaching professor from southern and uh one is not and uh the fellow who is not is named jerry tooley and evidently uh brother tooley's primary qualification for being president of the kentucky state baptist.

Um is that uh he doesn't think that everything should be coming out of louisville southern seminarians specifically and all this newfangled calvinism. Newfangled calvin that's that's his terminology. Newfangled um so he knows about the old fangled stuff.

No i don't i don't get the feeling the brother tooley is is uh real up on his uh church history. So he's got his fangles all messed up. Yeah that's it's yeah a tangle of fangled. Yes um and uh i yeah i don't either that or he he studied at the emir kanner school of uh his baptist history one of the two uh that's possibility too.

Uh there's some weird stuff going out there. You got yarnell and the revisionists trying to get rid of all the uh the calvinists in southern baptist history. But so here's um there's some interesting comments in channel right now that i won't i won't but but no yeah oh his name is adam ford.

So adam 4d not adam 4d ford. Well it's how it's spelled. It's you wouldn't find if i said adam ford. You wouldn't be able to find him. It it's adam 4d is how you find it when you google it and stuff like that whatever.

Anyway uh i just want you to listen to this is an announcement that i'm gonna not i but that brother tooley is is gonna be running for the presidency and uh this is i don't know it just sort of speaks for itself.

You ready for this.

All right here here we go. I don't know if you know it or not. Uh back a few months ago back in november of last year i was elected first vice president the kentucky baptist convention. I've had some folks approach me and i am running for the presidency of the kentucky baptist convention this year.

And the reason why i'm running uh thank you is i feel like that there are that somebody needs to stand up and say something for folks that are in the pew. And i don't think that that comes out of louisville.

I don't think that has to come through southern seminary is what i'm saying to you. And i had a number of people approach me and asked me to run and i am some have asked me. Well brother jerry we want you to get it if uh we do want you to get it.

But will you be leaving if you. If you do. And no of course i won't be leaving. I'm still going to be here uh we'll still be the director of missions here uh we'll just be a little uh added run to louisville.

And putting up with a whole lot of crazy stuff and that kind of thing. But i feel like it's important that we stand up for what's right. And i think that it's time that somebody had enough gumption and brass about them to stand up for what's right and what's true.

And by george when they asked me i figured i was the guy uh. And so uh we believe in a whosoever will gospel that whosoever shall call upon the name of the lord shall be saved. And that that's who has made that's what has made us as baptists who we are.

And that somebody needs to stand up and say we're tired of this highfalutin new stuff that's coming around. It's time for somebody to stand up and try to change some things. And uh that's what we're going to try to do.

Okay.

Highfalutin new stuff the highfalutin new stuff now the the the lowfalutin new stuff is okay but the highfalutin new stuff that's what i i qualify to run for this office because all the stuff that i'm against that's basically it yep i don't want no no more this highfalutin new stuff highfalutin new stuff.

That's right out. You're you know i i didn't do the accent you did. Yeah but i can do it uh just because the camera's on you don't mean you can do that because you get to handle all the complaints you're going to get from all of our brethren in kentucky.

So yeah there you go. Uh i i don't i don't i don't even know um what to say about that. Uh then we we can hope that the relative qualifications of the two brethren who are put forward for the office will be appropriately analyzed and dealt with.

Um but um yeah there's there's uh there's there's a little bit of uh of anti anti-reformed uh sentiment out there somewhere. Um did y 'all see i i don't i don't talk politics very much here i mean we touch on it when it's it's cultural and things like that.

But i did make comment on facebook last night because i saw a meme on facebook and it did strike me and it it struck me because i i think for a long time i have been pretty consistent in emphasizing the need for equal standards and hence i must confess i am in constant agony these days when i contemplate the mainstream media in the united states of america and this is true in all socializing cultures and that's a i think it's a good term this is a socializing culture.

We are moving into socialism. Uh we fought it for a long time but now the next generation doesn't even know what it is knows nothing about our history and has been convinced that all generations before ours were a bunch of privileged evil bigoted people anyways.

So we we have been defeated by our enemies because they took over the educational system and in socializing cultures the first thing they do is they take over the media. The media which is supposed to do journalism um no longer even pretends to do journalism.

Now this past weekend story broke about politico going after ben carson. Now i i mentioned on facebook ben carson is not my number one candidate. I am not a democrat and i'm not a republican. I'm neither one um i am independent because neither one of them are conservative enough for me.

I mean as if there is such thing as a conservative democrat anymore anyways and i'd rather straightforwardly on facebook said i think they should change the name to the socialist parties. They'd be more honest um and few republicans maybe to the semi-socialist party because they would be more honest too.

But anyway um but this hit piece came out on ben carson about west point and this meme came up and i reposted it or whatever you do on facebook because it said so much and it said congratulations dr ben carson for being the first african-american candidate for the president united states whose background has been investigated by the mainstream media by the press.

And it's exactly right. It's exactly right. I mean there's another meme out there i didn't try looking for it i could probably find just by scrolling on my feed here. But there's another meme out here uh that has on the the top ben carson uh and on the bottom barack obama.

And what. Uh and it says um you know it talks about top s8 for for for carson top sat score in michigan um you know 20 honorary doctorates and you know all all the rest of this stuff. Um and then below it has brock obama.

It says records sealed. And that's true. That's true. I remember 2007 and 2008 and i remember all sorts of people going yeah there it is um yeah highest sat score in detroit 20 year history graduated honors and accepted to yale awarded 60 honorary doctorates.

That's carson. Then it's got a picture of obama records sealed and the media is perfectly fine with that. And if you don't think that that's not an example of double standards um i don't even know what to say to you.

And so i'm i'm in agony because i'm looking at this and and it's just the constant reminder of the hypocrisy uh that it has become absolutely established in our society. And that is absolutely how we are going to be um treated by this society as well.

And and you know we saw it on cnn we if you go in expecting these people to treat you fairly you're going to be sorely disappointed. So go in expecting reality and you might be able to make something good come out of it.

But as i said on facebook you know i'd love to talk with dr carson about the investigative judgment. Really what i someone said that i should read his book. Does he mention it in there. Could someone tell me could someone maybe tweet me or facebook me or something to where there is a mention or an explanation in dr carson's book about his theology and specifically the concept of investigative judgment.

Because for me that's the dividing line. Uh that's the dividing line if you accept and function on the basis of the concept investigative judgment i believe it's false gospel. I really do. That's the dividing line.

Uh are there seventh day of venice that reject that. Yes there are. I would i would be overjoyed if he was one of them. But then we'd have to start talking about when life begins because i don't think he's quite right on that he he says about seven weeks and uh when the heart starts beating that's that's his his position.

Um so like i said um and i also said this uh of all the candidates i do get the feeling that if the founders the founders were looking at those candidates and just on the basis of what they envisioned the presidency to be ben carson would be exactly who they would they would think should be present for one reason they didn't envision this kind of political animal uh where you have to have come up to the ranks of politics they wanted people who were citizen patriots who would come to washington do the right thing do what was best for america and then leave.

You know i i heard somebody i forget who it was talking about harry truman. Harry truman you know harry truman was concerned when he left the white house as to whether he was going to be able to feed his family after he left the white house.

Because unlike pretty much every president since then truman refused to use his position to enrich himself to establish all those relationships that would well just look at certain people who are running for the office today who have already been grossly enriched by their political machinations.

Shall we say um that's the kind of person they're looking for and i think on that level ben carson would be exactly the type of person they would be looking for so but just just the hypocrisy the double standards the and and i and what i said was you know i i think he's too nice a guy to run for president he is going to be scarred by this no matter what no matter what whether he gets it or not no matter what happens the the price that he and his family will have to pay.

Um man it's awful. It's it's it's it's a big price and it's not a price that should be exacted. That's what i'm saying. At least not in a nation that. Well anyway i'm talking about a nation doesn't exist anymore.

To be perfectly honest with you um so we'll we'll move on from there. I um have said for a couple of weeks now that i wanted to address a particular question in the um atheist debate in the debate on atheism that took place i don't even know what the date was but it what a month ago um and si and jeff durbin were on the christian side with the pastor of the church that the bonson conference was held at and even up until even up until the day of the of the debate all i could find online was versus atheists.

It's just sort of generic. You know we just sort of walked through a university uh mall and grabbed three people and they had long hair. So it worked you know uh type thing so so um you know once it was made available i downloaded i listened to it on a ride and and uh it was it was a free-for-all and it was meant to be a free-for-all they kept reminding us that sort of meant to be this way and people are supposed to be talking over each other and stuff like that and um that kind of stuff.

But what you know there's lots of stuff i could have said. I mean the opening atheist guy was it doug or gary. He was the one they caught on on open mic saying never again si um his opening statement was just this this shotgun blast of disconnected unsubstantiated non-reflective standard dan barker um dennis mckinsey style surface level shallow blah.

I mean it was just there was no no worth to it at all. No no worth to it at all. Your standard american atheist drivel um shows no meaningful knowledge of the subject though some of the other atheists were a little more reflective.

Um but anyway but of all that i heard there was this one audience question that made me go. I mean it was it would have been the picard reichard double uh facepalm. You know what i mean. So those of you in facebook know exactly what you've seen the picard reichard double facepalm.

Okay uh some people have even photoshopped that and threw in a third reichard when it's real a third picard or a second picard. For when it's really really bad uh. But the sad thing is i know which episode that was from that's that's the really sad part about the whole thing is i remember that never mind um so it's a it's a picard reichard double facepalm question thing here.

And the the question was an honest and good question. The response illustrated the fundamental ignorance even of this entire atheist panel. This entire atheist panel demonstrated a fundamental ignorance about the issue of intelligent design and what is evidence of intelligent design.

And i think it'd be worthwhile for us to listen to it and then point out what the problems are. Because you'll run into this all the time. And if you encounter an atheist that answers like these atheists did then you know you're you're talking to someone who has never either been willing to or been had explained to them what the evidence of intelligent design actually is.

Because their response here is completely out of bounds completely out of bounds. So let's uh hope i've got the right one here get the cursor all the way back across four screens.

And uh here we go. Yes uh i'd like to ask a practical question. Get a little away from some theology now. But i've always wanted to ask an atheist this question but i never found one that it would admit that he was.

And i'm glad that i finally got to do this. I'm available online thank you. At my age i go to doctors quite a bit and when i look in the doctor's office i see what the human body looks like and where all the parts are placed.

And it all works real fine. And every once in a while some part doesn't work. That's why you go to the doctor so you can get it fixed. Now i'm kind of setting the table for a question. So please be patient with me.

Now when i we had my first my wife deliver our first child i went to the hospital and brought this little baby home. All the parts were in the right place all the parts worked. And i thought to myself who designed this.

There has to be something out there now. You don't believe there's a god straight to the question please. So let me ask you this. How is it that the human body is designed in such a way. In an absolute way.

Who designed it.

I'm afraid the the question i i can't make a lot of sense of simply because i i don't think that a designer is necessary. Um i also don't think a designer is necessary. Every time a beautiful snowflake is created i don't think someone drew that and and then gave the plans to the.

To the moisture in the air. Um now let me let me stop it right there because that's what caught me. Now i want to address the rest of what the answer is given as well that demonstrates that this man i don't know what his name is i'm sorry couldn't keep track of who was what.

And so on. So tell you. But the middle atheist there has no earthly clue if this is an honest response. Okay if he's playing games maybe maybe he does know. And he's being purposely deceptive. I don't know i don't know.

But if this is an honest response then he has no earthly clue what intelligent design means or even how to recognize intelligent design. Because notice the error that he just made he talked about how a snowflake can be beautiful.

Not that we see many of them around here in uh in arizona uh well okay south of mogollon rim uh they had snow in flagstaff so just two days ago um but uh we don't get much snow. But i did. I lived in minnesota and so i've seen a little snow seen a little snow.

And uh snowflakes are beautiful. Snow is beautiful. Well to a point just a inter-family text. Any news. And the answer is new. Uh summer may be watching. And this actually may be uh delaying because she may find the program so fascinating that uh that even the baby is is fascinated as well and is watch.

Word of the day be anxious for nothing anyway. Uh the problem is this there are are beautiful structures in nature such as snowflakes minerals some crystalline forms a beautiful lattice work and and just you know gorgeous.

But they don't carry information. A snowflake the design may be complex and beautiful but it's not informational. It's not informational. Now the dna strand in the nucleus with the specific coding that produces millions of differing proteins and all of the incredibly complex structures of living cells and living bodies nanomachines that we cannot with our greatest technology reproduce to this day using all of the intelligent design that we can come up with that dna may not be nearly as pretty as a snowflake but it carries information.

Now some might say well you know some information in a mineral lattice. Well yeah. And it'll tell you what the various molecules are made of and how they're arranged. But again the point is the ability to communicate data.

The very building plans of a complex structure such as the human body are not found in the random joining together of molecules in a in a crystal or in the formation of water molecules in the air that is completely random.

It may be beautiful but that's not the same thing as passing the test for communicating information. Now for example i was pointing to my phone here uh and everything about this screams design everything about it.

There is a screen that happens to radiate electromagnetic radiation within the visible realm of my eyeballs. Otherwise it would always look like that even went on because it could put out radiation outside of the realm that i could see.

But no it uh see it it puts out puts out radiation and you can see it too. Isn't that amazing. Yeah. And there are these buttons that i happen to be able to push with my fingers and when i hold it up to my ear the sound comes out to where i can hear it and my voice goes into where the other person can then hear.

And the apps have buttons in them that i can utilize so as to obtain further information and perform certain tasks. And everybody looks at this and goes. This is designed to be able to accomplish a particular task.

And man we keep asking more and more and more and more of these little things uh every six months or so. And people are more than happy to provide us with that because they then charge us great large amounts of money.

The design that is found in biochemistry has a purpose and a function. It communicates information. And it communicates that over multiple generations complex information and specific information. When you understand for example how enzymes work and how they have to have a particular molecular form and how they have to bind in a particular way and if there's so much as one molecule in the wrong place so many of the diseases we now have come to understand have incredibly minor causes minor in the sense of it's it's just one little thing out of place that level of specificity is absolutely necessary.

And so i don't know if this gentleman understands that i don't know if he understands what you know what biochemistry has has revealed to us that darwin knew nothing about had no clue about at all but that the level of complexity and interaction and function all of which goes far beyond anything that i'm holding in my hand.

And no rational human being would ever say that this arose accidentally. None none. But there they sit. And with the very minds and bodies that exhibit that clear unequivocal unquestionable evidence of absolute intelligent design they will use their intelligence to say i don't see a designer.

Where is it. There's i don't see a designer anywhere. It's amazing. The only way these are intelligent men it's a spiritual issue a spiritual issue. So when you hear somebody saying that and referring to snowflakes or crystals or things like that they don't get it they don't get it.

They've they've they've completely and totally missed it missed it. They don't get it. As as you.

Well know and alluded to the human body does not work so well. So sometimes um i shouldn't be here right now if it wasn't for modern medicine and science and logic and reason and all those things.