Talkin' Christmas & Comedy with Hans Fiene (of Lutheran Satire)

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As you can tell by looking at me today, I'm absolutely in a mood for nothing, but seriousness.

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No hijinks or shenanigans are going to play out at all in the next hour. So stay tuned.

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Hans Feeney of Lutheran Satire. Hans, thank you for coming in today. It's a pleasure to be with you.

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It was a fantastic theme song that you had at the beginning of your show. Yes, indeed it is.

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I love the fact that you say Pope of Lutheran, is it say Lutheran, Luther? Lutheranity, yeah.

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Lutheranity. I love it. You're the Pope of Lutheranity. That's right. Speaking of the theme song, almost every week when

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I play the theme song, someone will write in and say, is that Hans Feeney? Is that him singing?

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So your voice is obviously one that people recognize, and I guess that's because you've sung songs on your channel.

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I have, yeah. What's your favorite song that you've sung on your channel? Well, that's a great question.

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You know, I have one of my best friends, my buddy Justin, who I was in a band with in college.

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We did a lot of songwriting together. I wanted to be a very serious, for real songwriter for a number of years, and Justin pointed out to me a number of years ago that my gimmick songs were always my best ones, which is true, but makes me sad that I'm only really good at songwriting when

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I'm making fun of the idea of songwriting. I like the We Are the Protestants song from the

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Reformation Piggybackers video, and I've done a few videos that weren't super substantive, but they were just kind of an excuse to do a theme song.

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So I had a series that I was doing a little while ago, a number of years ago, called Your Friends and Neighbors, which were just short little videos picking apart various concepts, and I would do a theme song for each of those.

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And sometimes the theme song was longer than the actual video, and so I did one.

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I started doing them in styles of people, because that was kind of fun for me to write stuff like that. So there was one called,

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I think it was called Jerry the Contemporary Worship Pediatrician. I don't even remember what the joke was, but this theme song was done in the style of Paul Simon, and then

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I have a video called Bill the Unitarian Proctologist, and the joke was that he just wanted to focus on the parts of the colon that were already healthy, and so everyone who went to him died.

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But the theme song was done in the style of Elvis Costello, and I'm really happy, I was really pleased with how that turned out.

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But I think overall, musically, it was actually not really that much of a joke song, but the

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Diet of Worms song from the, there was a sort of a rap battle between Martin Luther and Charles V.

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Musically, I'm probably proudest of that. That I think is actually legitimately like a, it's this video, the jokes come from kind of in the video jokes, but the song itself is actually pretty straightforward and serious.

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So still laboring under the delusion that I can be a serious songwriter, that one's probably my favorite.

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I love it. I love it. And I do want to, I want to take a step back for anybody who doesn't know you, and I imagine most of my audience probably does, because we swim in the same, as far as the audiences go, we probably swim in the same streams, people who love comedy and Christian comedy.

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But how long ago did you put out your first Lutheran satire video and what, a couple of questions and you can just answer them all together.

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One, what made you think it was a good idea? What made you think comedy was the way to go and how was it received immediately?

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Did you get pushed back or did you immediately have people love it? Yeah. So it was about 14 years ago, 13 and a half, 14 years ago, something like that.

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I was supposed to do 10 videos in honor of my 10th anniversary and I got,

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I had three of them done. So, so maybe by my 20th anniversary, I'll have those,

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I'll finish celebrating the 10th anniversary. But I had written a couple of skits in years before.

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I've always kind of wanted to be a comedy writer and I never had anything to do with them.

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I would just write them for my own amusement and kind of show them to a couple of people. And I never quite knew what to do with them.

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And I had a friend who was a screenwriter or aspiring screenwriter who I sent some stuff to her and I said, how do

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I do something with this? And, and she told me, she said, well, there's this new software that had just come out back then.

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This was around 2000, early 2011, 2010, something like that, called extra normal, which was the text to type stuff from my earliest videos, which is robo voices where you type in the dialogue and the characters would say it with no inflection at all.

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It was just flatly delivered, you know, in the days before AI technology. And, um, is that the one with the dispensationalist with the mutant powers going in and out?

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Yeah. So that was back in that era. And I, um, so I started putting those, so I started putting those out and initially

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I wasn't really thinking of doing anything with it. I had to, uh, clearly I didn't have any real plans for anything by virtue of the fact that my channel is called

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Lutheran satire, because that's not a good name. It's a very, very unoriginal, boring, straightforward name that would be like, it's like if you wrote, it's like, if you made a movie and you go, this movie is called hero saves the day, uh, you know, like it's just a very straightforward description of what it is.

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I don't know what I would have called it if I thought about it more, but it was originally just kind of inside Lutheran baseball stuff, jokes about stuff that confessional

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Lutherans would kind of argue about. And, and I was just sort of making fun of the kind of unhingedness of how passionate we'd get about sort of silly things.

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And then I started to branch out a little bit more. And I, there was a video that I did.

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The first video I did that I noticed was starting to get a notable amount of views, I think was a video

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I did about, uh, responding to biblicists. And that got around 5 ,000 views.

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This was in the real early days when that was a lot. And I started noticing some ELCA guys were sharing it.

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And I thought, oh no, I don't, I want people to know I'm not on the same team that, that my objection to biblicists, to biblicism is that you're being, you're trying to be legalistic or trying to insist upon needing a

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Bible passage for something that's like a general Christian concept that you should be able to piece two and two together.

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So my objection to biblicism was, uh, someone, someone basically just like making the argument, you can't say insurance fraud is wrong because the word insurance fraud isn't anywhere in the

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Bible. Or even if, you know, someone were to say, you, uh, where's the word Trinity in the Bible, right?

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That kind of thing. And saying, well, this is a word that you're using to express a concept that's deeply biblical.

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But what I was not at all criticizing was believing that the word of God is authoritative, which

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I could, what I could tell was that's for the ELCA folks. That's what biblicism means is just actually believing in the law.

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And so I didn't want to be lumped in with those guys. So I did a video on the differences between the

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ELCA and the LCMS. And then I started to realize, oh, there are actually people who don't know this stuff.

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And people outside of my own circles are picking up on this. And I realized this could actually be a helpful venue for teaching people what it is that we believe.

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And by using humor, you're able to do it in a way humor allows you to really quickly unpack ideas that, and to, and to kind of hack at ideas that in normal discourse would take you a long time to sort of get near.

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And so, so I kind of found to discover that was that by doing everything with kind of a wink and a smile, and by also being willing to gore your own ox, it enabled you to get much closer to false ideas that you wanted to show people why they were wrong.

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And to do it in a way where people wouldn't be as defensive about it. And also to just to throw out there to people, hey, there's this confession of faith that you may not have heard of.

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You may not have been aware that that exists. And you'll find this. I knew this. I heard this a lot from, so when

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I went to the seminary in Concordia Theological Seminary, Fort Wayne, Indiana, I would say close to 40%,

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I think, of my classmates were adult converts to Lutheranism. And a lot of times you would hear the story from them was they'd grown up in churches and they could tell something was not quite right, but they couldn't put their finger on it and they'd read the

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Bible and they couldn't quite understand why their churches were teaching them things that really seemed to push back against what they were hearing from the scriptures.

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And then all of a sudden they discovered Lutheranism and they went, oh gosh, the things that I thought were kind of true.

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And I thought it was the only person that had sort of pieced this together. There's like a whole church body that believes this.

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And so I began to realize that there's a bunch of those people out there and it would be good to just kind of put Lutheranism on the radar for them.

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So they could say, oh, you know, this guy picked apart an idea that I had,

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I'd never really evaluated why I believe that, you know. So if I did a video on, say, a video that I might at some point redo just because I liked the idea of it.

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And it was done back in the old robo voice day, which kind of limited the way I was able to, when I was doing the robo voices, you could really only make one joke, which was you had to write in such a way that it was funnier with a deadpan delivery than it would be if you were recording your own dialogue, which is obviously what

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I transitioned to doing. And I did a video called St. Paul's Baptism Oopsie, which was seeking to show how from a

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Lutheran perspective, our understanding of every passage that describes what baptism is and what it does is describing it as God's work for us rather than our work for God.

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And showing how if you want to argue that baptism now saves you doesn't really mean baptism now saves you, that the washing of regeneration and renewal of the

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Holy Spirit doesn't actually mean that. You're putting yourself in a position where you have to repeatedly argue the

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Bible doesn't actually mean what it says about baptism a lot of times in a row when it's talking about it, which should start to kind of send off some triggers of maybe my position on baptism isn't actually right.

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Just sort of saying it's an outward sign of an inward change. There's a lot of scripture that you have to kind of twist your way around to making that work.

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And so that was kind of the gist of the video. So I wasn't, and I never have expected, like I wouldn't expect a

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Baptist to watch that and go, oh, I was wrong the whole time. Now I'm a

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Lutheran. But my hope was, oh, they'll watch this. I've picked apart something that they just never really thought about before, and I picked it apart in such a way where they go, well,

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I should probably look into that a little bit more. And then for people who may have been kind of laboring under some false doctrines that were harming them, and then they realize, oh, wait a minute, there's a way out of this that this video is sort of indicating.

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I should look into that. So the happiest I've ever been in terms of my work with Lutheran satire has been when

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I've had people email me, message me, whatever it might be, and say, hey,

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I saw a couple of your videos a number of years ago, and it made me really curious about Lutheranism. So I started looking into,

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I went to my local LCMS Lutheran church and talked to the pastor there. And then after a while, they ended up becoming

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Lutheran. So that's kind of my, has been my goal with it. And I think that using the avenue of humor helps that because part of it is a two minute response.

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If I'm going to do a video trying to teach Lutheran doctrine, two minutes, three minutes, whatever it is, four minutes for a video is not really enough time to sufficiently say anything.

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But it's enough time to hack at an idea that people haven't picked apart yet and realize, oh, there's more to that.

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And so that's kind of my goal in what it is that I do. And I think humor has been a very helpful avenue for that.

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By the way, I just noticed your ad at the bottom of the screen here, buymeacoffee .com.

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And for a second, I thought that said buy meat coffee. And I was going to ask what in Calvin's institutes, what are the institutes of John Calvin?

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It requires you, what even is meat coffee, let alone what theological rationale do you have for imposing that upon yourself?

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That's so funny. Buy me a coffee is just another version of Patreon. It's a way for people to support the show.

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I didn't want to do a Patreon and this was another way of doing it. It's like, I'm going to register by meat coffee.

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I think you should. I think once you create meat coffee, if we created bacon flavored coffee, yeah, that would rule.

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In fact, I'm going to call Squirrelly Joe as soon as we're done. I'm going to say, we got a million dollar idea. Yeah, million dollar idea.

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I feel like that's one of those ideas where you're going, I can make so much money off of this, but I really hope it doesn't actually work.

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It's not wrong, but I'd feel gross about becoming a millionaire. That's right. I'm the meat coffee guy.

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So what do you do? I make meat coffee. Yeah. That sounds awful, but I know you're going to be very successful in that.

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What's so funny is basically what you just said, going back to what you were talking about, you're basically a gateway drug to Lutheranism.

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Yeah, that's how I would hope that I am. And I'm sort of a gateway drug to Calvinism. We are the cigarettes.

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If you took health class in 1996, I think we're about the same age like we did.

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We are the cigarettes and beer of our respective theological traditions.

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You may think it's safe. You're just having fun.

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But next thing you know, you're onto the heroine of the Lutheran confessions.

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Oh my goodness. Before you know it, you thought it was safe to be hanging out with cigarettes,

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Keith Foskey. But then you're onto the crack cocaine of the Westminster Confession of Faith or whichever.

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Which one do you subscribe to? Well, we hold to the First London Confession, which is a Baptist confession.

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But it's so funny because so many people start Reformed Baptist and then immediately become Presbyterian.

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So you're right. It would just be another gateway. I have a friend who was in a

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Reformed Baptist church, and he was an elder and he switched to being a Presbyterian. That was a huge leap. I mean, he went from a leader in the church to having to step down and join a

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Presbyterian church, and now he's studying for seminary in a Presbyterian church. That's a huge jump.

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I mean, but theologically, the real big jump is a view of baptism and, of course, a view of covenant theology.

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But for us, it's like, man, he abandoned ship. So have you always,

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I know I asked you this on our Lutheran video when I did it, but I don't quite remember your answer because I had like six of you on.

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But have you always been Lutheran? You grew up Lutheran or did you become a Lutheran? Yeah. No, so I've come from a long line of Lutheran pastors.

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My dad's a Lutheran pastor. His father was a mortician. His father was a farmer.

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But then back on up, it was about Lutheran pastors all the way back into the days of the Reformation. And then on my mom's side as well, my mom's father was a pastor, seminary professor, seminary president.

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His father was a politician, had been the governor of Minnesota. He was my great -grandfather.

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This is a thing. This is a free -form podcast. So I feel free to go wherever I want.

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My great -grandfather, Jacob L. Otteson Price, was the governor of Minnesota back in the 1920s.

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And he is historically notable because he's the first person to sign anti -lynching legislation.

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There was a terrible lynching in Duluth, Minnesota. So he's the first governor to sign a bill against lynching, which on the one hand,

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I'm very proud of. And on the other hand, I'm very confused by because I always assumed that the law against murder just covered all of the ways that you could murder someone.

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And so I learned that. And I was like, that's so cool. And then you go, wait, does there need to be a law?

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Do you have, does the government just have to think of every possible way to kill someone?

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And they have to make a law about every specific? If you stab a guy to death with a frozen ear of corn, and you're just like, well, is there a frozen ear of corn law?

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And they're like, shoot, no. So he just gets away with it. I don't know the answer to that.

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I want to jump to a quick question. I was going to bring this in later, but I'm going to go ahead and do it now. You also do stand up, which is something that I think is awesome.

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I have done stand up. I've done it a couple of times. Haven't done it in about a year. Well, I love that because it's a dream of mine to do it.

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And I've done it a few times and I know you do have done it. And so would that, what you just said about your grandfather, would that be an example?

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Would that be a bit? That would be. Oh yeah, I think that could be a bit. Yeah, there's a good chunk of thing there.

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Just like working your way into like the, again, the concept of the rule is you have to make a law against every specific way that you could murder someone.

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And, and how, if you're just incredibly creative, you're allowed to, you're allowed to kill people.

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You just can get away with it every time. There's definitely a bit there. So how do you, when you did stand up, was your stand up more from stories of your own life or did you actually write jokes?

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How did you, what was your? Yeah, I don't really do like jokes, jokes. I, so I did it a couple of times.

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It got really just, I just got really busy and had some, had some other things going on that didn't make the timing of it work out.

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At some point I'll go back out there. But yeah, no, I would do routine, the bits, you know, so I like funny ideas that you can just kind of pick apart.

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So the first time I did it, I, I mean, I wrote out the whole routine and memorized it. Basically. It was a, a bit about, and part of this is true.

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How, when I was in middle school in social studies, they would do this thing when I was in middle school, where they,

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I, so again, I'm almost 44. I was, I went to school at an interesting time.

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So the nineties was like, it was not, things hadn't gone fully woke, but they were kind of working their way that way.

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So they were working their way towards it in the sense of like, you would learn that they would try to teach you.

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Everyone has contributed. Every culture has contributed something to the treasury of knowledge that we all have.

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So the idea was, you know, like, oh, it's not all Europeans and do everything. We have other cultures that have done really great things too.

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And so they would teach us, they taught us that the Aztecs invented the number zero. And I'm sure there's some degree of truth to that, but they presented it as though no one else had a number to represent the idea of nothing, which obviously was not the case.

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And so I did a routine. Didn't the Latin to have knee hello. And that, didn't that. Yeah, right. So, so I, so it was a stand up bit about like, you know, you're the teacher getting increasingly and this part was made up, but it was part of the joke.

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It was part of the bit was the teacher getting increasingly frustrated because we didn't believe that only the

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Aztecs had zero and the teacher getting mad at us for being racist, for not letting the Aztecs have zero.

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So the, you know, the idea was, was like, so part of the jokes were, you know, the, you go, wait, they, nobody else had zero.

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And she goes, no, only the Aztecs had that. And you go, wait, did people have 10? And they go, yeah, she goes, yeah, people had 10 and you go, wait, they had one zero, but they couldn't figure out zero.

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That doesn't make any sense. It said, that's like, that'd be like, if you went to the doctor and you'd go, can you look at this mole?

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And the doctor goes, oh no, you got to get rid of that. That's pre -cancerous. And you go, oh no, does that mean it's going to turn into cancer?

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And the doctor goes, what's cancer? Right. So, so like it's, and then, so then, and it was a thing about how, like, how would this really work out if you didn't have a number for zero?

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So, you know, you're in ancient Greece and you're walking down the road and some guy named Demetrius jumps out and he's like, ah, give me all your drachmas.

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And you go, I don't, sorry, buddy. Like I'm, I'm broke. And he goes, well, how many drachmas do you have?

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And you go, oh, I got one. And he goes, okay, well, give me that. And you go, no, I don't, I don't have the kind of one where I have one.

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I have, I have the kind of one where I don't have that.

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So, so there was, so that kind of stuff, you know, is interesting to me. Whether you can just sort of pick apart.

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There's one bit I'm planning on doing at some point. I learned this a while ago. I think about this all the time.

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So I don't know, about a year, half a year ago or so, I was in the car with my son, taking him to school. And we saw this gal who was riding a bike and we could only see her from behind.

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And I couldn't tell, I couldn't tell if she was a little person or just like a big kid.

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And, but she looked kind of tall to be a, to have dwarfism, right?

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So no judgment at all. I was just curious. And so then I started to wonder and I asked my son, I said,

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I thought, I said, is dwarfism, like, is that just a genetic thing?

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Is it a genetic marker? Or is it just if you're under a certain height? And I didn't know.

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And so what I meant to, what I was trying to figure out was how tall can you be and still be considered a dwarf?

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But what I, what I asked my phone was, who is the tallest dwarf?

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And my phone told me, I was not expecting this answer. The tallest dwarf in history was seven feet, nine inches tall.

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Because there was a Swiss man named Adam Rainer. He was born in the early, in 1899.

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And he had dwarfism. So when he was 18 years old, he was four feet tall. And then he developed, shortly thereafter, developed a tumor on his pituitary gland, which is what causes gigantism.

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So he had the same condition as Andra the Giant. And by the time he died in his 30, in his like late, or in his 40s, he was seven feet, nine inches tall.

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And so I was just fascinated by the concept of being a little person and then becoming a giant.

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And at what point, like, in what ways do you stay a little person? And in what ways, like, so did he keep going to the little person support group meetings when he was seven feet tall?

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And he like, he gets kicked out of them. Because he, you know, everyone's going. Everybody else thinks he's mocking you. Like, they're trying to put us in the circus.

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And he's like, yeah, I know exactly how that feels. And they're like, no, they're putting us in the circus to fire us out of cannons. Not, that's not why, that's not why you're in the circus, you know?

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Or like, you know, did he have a, did he have a grandmother who just kept praying for him to grow?

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And he just, you know, so he's like, so he's praying like, Lord, please let me grow. And he does. And all of a sudden, he's five nine. He's like, whoa, this is amazing.

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All right, I'm going to aim for six foot. And so he keeps praying. Then all of a sudden, he hits six foot and six, two, six, five. And then he's six, eight.

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He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who's still praying? And then, you know, and his grandmother's still praying.

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It's true. Because you know how grandmothers, it takes them five years to download new information about you.

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So like, he shows up at his grandmother's house, you know, with his eye peering in the window, like the, like the jolly great giant.

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And she's on at the side of her bed. Just, and please let my grandson, Adam, grow. I know that's very important.

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He's going, Grandma, no, that's enough. Please stop praying for that. So anything where you can just sort of see layers of jokes and anything that sort of why, how did this work out as funny to me?

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So that's the kind of stuff I've done when I've done standup. I love that. I, I didn't realize we're almost the same age.

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And by the way, I haven't mentioned it yet, but I've been wearing this hat this whole time, just as a goof. I'm going to take it off. And yes, I do keep a brush right next to me in my office so I can fix my hair.

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Anyway. It's very nice now. Yes. Well, thank you. I feel much more professional. Yeah. But the, and I'm wearing my

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Christmas tie too. So very nice, but no, when we grew up in the same time, so we probably grew up with the same movies.

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I don't know if your family, you know, being that you grew up, I grew up in a Christian home, but, but movies are sort of allowed, you know, some people don't allow movies.

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Oh yeah. We weren't like, we weren't allowed to watch stuff that had sexual content in it. And violence was not like what my parents didn't like horror movies.

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My mom came home from, I was at the, at my house watching the Texas chainsaw massacre with my friend

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Jason. When I was, and we were too young to have rented it for kids who don't understand. I guess everything, no one will understand this.

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I don't know how things work now. I guess you watch movies on Netflix and there's no like guardrails for anything that we used to sort of have guardrails back in the day was you weren't allowed to like rent, you know,

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R rated movies to kids who are under a certain age you weren't allowed to, but it happened all, all of the time at rainbow video in Zionsville, Indiana.

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And so we had rented the Texas chainsaw massacre. And there's a scene where leather face like hangs a girl on a meat hook and the violence is totally implied.

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It doesn't actually show anything, but my parents came home at that moment and walked in the room at that exact moment.

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And my mom still to this day, we'll talk about how that was the most graphic thing she's ever seen.

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And I pointed out to her, they don't actually, there's no blood and there's no actual like hook going into flesh, but she doesn't believe me.

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Even though I'm objectively correct about that. But so we weren't stuff like that was, was, we weren't allowed to, even though it was the nineties, like your parents aren't around, you know?

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So, yeah, so there were some rules, but I saw just kind of everything, you know, the typical stuff that everyone saw.

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I do a bit about how, how eighties movies lied to us about karate.

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Cause I do karate. I've been in karate for 30 years and how Daniel son, if you watch the first karate kid, it begins on the first day of school.

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He gets beat up on before the first day of school and the tournament is on December 9th.

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So he goes from the first day of school to December. No, maybe December 19th, but it's, it's right.

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Yes. The day before my birthday. I remember that from the movie. Yeah. And he doesn't actually start training until the day after Halloween.

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Cause he gets beat up on Halloween night. So he gets, he goes from no karate to the undisputed champion of the all valley under 18 karate championship in six weeks of training without ever sparring or knowing the rules.

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But he did trim a bonsai tree. Say that again.

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He trimmed a bonsai tree. That's right. That's right. He waxed. He did the wax on wax off with the car and he watched

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Mr. Miyagi do the crane thing. So that's better than learning how to do karate.

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Do you know, do you know Gary Goldman? The comedian is, I don't think so. No, he's a, he's a Jewish comedian, very funny guy.

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And he, he talks about karate kid. He said, he said, Mr. Miyagi says, if you do crane kick, right?

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No can defend. He said, when I was in school, I tried it. Trust me, can defend.

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Yeah, it's not, it's not an efficient way, especially cause now that may have been true before everyone knew what the crane kick was.

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Yeah, exactly. What would actually work now is if you did it and then just went like this with the leg that's already out and then, and then delicately kicks the guy.

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But that doesn't seem like it would be a real forceful kick. Or dive in, like lift your hands and then fall on the guy or something.

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Yeah. Yeah. That's what we all knew. It was, we all know it was coming. But we all loved that movie as a kid. I showed that movie to my kids and they were bored out of their minds until the fight scene.

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They're complaining the whole time. And then they get to the fight scene and they go, that was the awesomest movie I've ever seen dad.

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I was like, all right, I'm glad, glad it redeemed it. But I, it's weird. Cause I don't remember, I mean, I was fascinated by that movie the whole way along and I was five years old.

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Something like that was the first time I saw it. I've been for like, I, I, I'm pretty sure I saw that movie in theaters.

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I know. I saw part two in theaters. I don't think I saw it. I definitely saw part two in theaters. My first movie ever seen in a theater, if this is weird, but I've just remembered, cause it was after my parents got divorced.

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I know how old I was. My, my stepbrother took me to my first movie and it was American Ninja too.

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Michael Dudikoff. Yes. Michael Dudikoff. Oh, that's amazing. That's marvelous. The early, my earliest memory, or one of my earliest memories is going to see

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Return of the Jedi in theaters. I was only two. So I was not quite three years old yet. Oh, wow.

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Okay. And I saw, I saw Christmas Vacation, which is still my favorite

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Christmas movie. I saw that in theaters. I saw that as well. I tweeted about this just yesterday. How, so my dad's a pastor as well.

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And so the important things to know about the story, my dad's a pastor and my parents never knew what was in any movie ever.

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I somehow knew all of the content that was in movies, which is why I've guarded my kids far more from what they've watched.

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My parents just wouldn't know what was in things and then would, would rent movies and then turn them off and kick us out of the room or whatever it was.

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But my dad, for my birthday, I, my dad took me and a bunch of my friends to go see

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Christmas Vacation. And I think maybe my dad had seen it on bits and pieces of, of the original

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Vacation on television, but didn't know the kind of general body genre of the, of the films.

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And so after the movie, we got into the car and my dad apologized to all of the kids for taking them to a movie that was entirely inappropriate.

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And I will always remember that. And, and, but also that movie is not good.

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I don't know why that movie is so beloved by people of our generation, other than they grew up with it. Not particularly funny.

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I don't, I don't see the appeal. Oh man. Now, now, now we may have to debate. This is no,

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I, I, I guess I did. I do have a spot in my heart for it. Cause I love it. And I bought a version of it.

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That's edited. You want to talk about showing stuff to your kids? I buy movies that are, I don't use vid angel.

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There's actually a company that sells movies that are edited. I'm not sure how legal it is, but I just pretend it is.

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And, and so we have a version. And so when he says bad words, it's not there. And my kids have, my kids have shirts that I made them cause

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I have a t -shirt press. And, and it says the jolliest bunch of Foskey's this side of the house, which is a line from the movie, of course, taking out the bad word.

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Yeah. So, all right. So you don't love Christmas vacation. I just, I don't know.

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I feel, I feel, I feel betrayed. I'm sorry to have done that to you. And I do want to apologize.

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If anybody hears my voice sounding a little weird today, I am getting over a cold.

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So forgive me. Well, I do want to talk a little bit about Christmas since I have you. And I want to,

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I want to, first of all, thank you. Because the, the, the contribution that you have made with Lutheran satire, even though, as you said, it's sort of a gateway drug for Lutheranism.

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It has also crossed the, the, the span of denominations to be a value to many people when it comes to just orthodoxy.

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And one of the greatest videos, and I have shown this video while teaching, just to, just to let you know how, how valued, valuable it's been for me.

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I've, I've used this video in teaching is the video where you have Horace, the, the

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Egyptian God saying that he is really the reason for Christmas. For those who haven't seen it, this is just a quick.

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Not so fast preacher man. Behold, it is I Horace, Egyptian God of the sun.

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And value all believes that you've been celebrating the birth of your Lord Jesus. You've really been celebrating the birth of me.

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All right. So one, is that your voice? Yes. You voicing all the characters?

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Yeah. I voice most of my characters. The only times I've ever. So I'm obnoxiously perfectionistic about things.

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And I don't mind making myself do 400 takes, but I feel bad making someone else do it, but I will make them do as many takes as it takes until I get it right.

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So my wife has voiced a few characters, but she really hates when I asked her to do it. Cause I give her direction and that's, she's not a big fan of that.

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So I've done most of the characters. I'll sometimes pull someone else in. If they're just,

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I try to make my voice sound a little bit different, but if there's just too many characters for me to do that, or obviously playing female characters doesn't really work so well for me.

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But yeah, Horace was, that voice came from, I was trying to kind of find.

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So Horace is really just an avatar for. Idiot, neck beard, meme, atheism.

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And a lot of these dumb arguments that you see floating around, you know, that people are just sharing all the time as though no, no actual study into these things, no interrogation of claims or anything of that nature, and just easy, immediate excuses to dismiss the

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Christian faith. And so I wanted to find something, I wanted to find a voice that was reflective of both the haughtiness and arrogance, and also the just juvenile silliness of it all.

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So Horace's voice was a mixture of, there's a character on the

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Flintstones called the Great Gazoo, who was in later episodes.

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For those of you who don't know, they added a character to make the show more interesting in the later years, which always means that your show is dying.

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And he was a little Martian who would appear to Fred Flintstone, and he would always call him Dum Dum. And so that voice, that sort of condescendingness, and then

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Uter, the German foreign exchange student from The Simpsons. Yes, Uter, oh my goodness.

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So that's where the sort of silly voice came from. So sort of like, I'm so much smarter than you, but I'm also sort of silly, so you can't take me too seriously.

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So that was where, that's where the Horace voice came from. Oh my goodness,

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Uter. I just, the fact that we know so much of the same thing, Uter from The Simpsons. Yeah, there's a line like where they're chasing him through the locker room, like, don't chase me,

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I'm full of chocolates. Yes, exactly. But it was mainly the line.

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Don't make me run, I'm full of chocolate. Yeah, the diorama episode, where, and now we come to Uter, the

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German foreign exchange student and his diorama about Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and Uter looks up in his handsome face covered in chocolate and he says,

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I begged you to look at mine first. I begged you. So that's, so that was kind of where the voice of Horace came from.

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And then the running joke became, people would ask, why does Horace have a German accent? To which

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I would reply, that's not a German accent. It's an ancient Egyptian accent. You're just illiterate and you need to study more to understand that that's actually how ancient

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Egyptians sounded. It's just a direct line from ancient Egypt all the way to Germany.

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So that's hilarious. And when I say I've used it for teaching, there was a few years ago where the movie

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Zeitgeist had come out. And of course, there was Bill Maher's Religious, which makes an attempt to argue that there's nothing really unique about Christianity, but it is just a rehashing of all these religions.

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And even Rob Bell, when he was doing his Numa, I don't know if you know who that is.

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And he said, well, every religion had dying and rising gods. Christianity wasn't unique.

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And it's like, when you hear people say that, even people who are supposed to be Christians representing

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Christianity, it's like, but wait a minute, a lot of this stuff is not true. And when you call Gerald Massey, a cuckoo bird,

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I forget, I think he said cuckoo. Self -taught cuckoo birds.

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Yeah, I don't remember the phrase. Yes, lunatics, self -taught Egyptologists or something like that.

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Yeah, that was so great because I actually looked that up. I wanted to see what people say about him.

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And there are still people, there are a lot of people who try to defend his work. And it's because they're trying to defend this idea that Jesus is just a rehash of Horace or whoever else.

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Well, and yeah, I mean, I think there are kind of a couple of things on that point. So I mean, the thing with Gerald Massey is, first of all, now he's old and ancient.

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And anything that's from a long time ago has the sort of automatic veneer of legitimacy.

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And then if you traffic in kind of conspiracy theories about how Christianity has sort of ideologically ghettoized those who had a handle on the truth.

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But you can read stuff from his contemporaries who are just going, I mean, you just say he's an idiot and he's very clearly making things up.

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And there have been hucksters from every generation. And again, it's not hard to see that the stuff he claimed about the mythology of Horace just isn't there.

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There's no evidence for it at all. It's not. And there's plenty of evidence for the actual claims about the mythology of Horace that don't fit the story of Christ.

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But even a part of the baptizers, the funny one of the baptizer, right.

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You're going, that's, gee, that's pretty on the nose. So, you know, and and likewise, the whole like, oh, he was born on December 25th.

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And you're going, you don't even the Bible doesn't claim Jesus was born on December 25th. It was there's a kind of a, you know, complex stories to where that date comes from.

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But but you're but by claiming, oh, no, he was really born on a day in which

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Christians didn't sort of definitively say have never definitively said that's when Jesus was born.

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Just reflects you don't even understand the faith that you're trying to discredit.

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But the thing like going back to the Rob Bell point, this idea of, oh, well, Christianity is not unique.

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All religions have some sort of, you know, dying and resurrection motif. Well, Christianity sort of does have a very clear and obvious answer for why that would be the case, which is it goes back to the whole thing of I've heard people say this so many times, not realizing it's a complete own goal where they where you go, where they say, well, you know, this flood story from the

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Bible. I mean, every culture in the world has some sort of apocalyptic flood narrative.

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And you go, yeah, that's a point for me. How do you how do you not realize that's a me point?

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Because what I'm saying is every human being alive and thus every culture that has ever existed has descended from one of those three sons who came off of the

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Ark, who all so like that's I win. I game over. And so in the same way, all everyone coming off of that Ark has faith.

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And I mean, maybe not in Ham's case has faith in that sense, but is theologically aware of what

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Noah's father said when he picked him up in his hands when he was born. This is the one who's going to save us from the painful toil of our hands and that knew the promise given to Adam and Eve that the offspring of the woman is going to crush the head of the serpent, even as the serpent strikes his heel.

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So the idea of a savior who comes into this world and is struck by death in order to overcome death is is that's the story of known by every person who comes off of the

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Ark. So if you do, in fact, have common themes between all religions of the world, it's because they have a common theological ancestor in Shem, Ham and Japheth.

46:22

That's a very good point. Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad that we're pointing out how

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Rob Bell is wrong about things 500 years after anyone has talked about Rob Bell.

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Well, as I said, I was I I used this in a lesson years ago, but I used your video and I had just referenced

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Rob Bell. But again, it's it keeps coming up. It's just new people saying it, you know,

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Rob. Rob is, you know, I talk like we're on a first name basis, but Mr. Bell has, you know, has sort of been out of any relevancy for more than a decade.

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But but he's got people right behind him doing the same craziness. Now, this this

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I'm going to show what is my favorite part of any of your videos. You know what's coming, but they don't.

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This is in this and I and I love Donald and Connell. They've actually made their way into one of my videos, with your permission. Yes, I love all these things.

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But the greatest moment in any video, again, was the Horace video. And it was when Horace chose this form.

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Gozer the Gozerian is from Ghostbusters.

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That just when I first I remember when I first saw that and I just I was like, wow. I just doubled over with laughter that that is such that again,

47:34

I should have known we were the same age because that is an 80s kid joke, 90s kid joke right there.

47:41

Yeah, I don't I remember writing that video and not quite not quite knowing how to work my way out of it, because that's always the challenge with writing sketches is is coming up with the ending.

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You know, you can watch years of Saturday Night Live or Monty Python skits from their TV show or whatever it might be.

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And that's always the challenge is like, how do you have some sort of resolution so that and I remember kind of with that is, you know, he's

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Horace is cycling through all of these other gods that are supposed to be that were the

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Jesus mythology was ripped off of them. And so the joke kind of was they're getting less and less believable as he goes along.

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And so I needed something and I'm just sort of puzzling about it and thinking about it. And then I stumbled across, well, there's that speech from Ghostbusters about this sort of wrath of Gozer, the

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Gozerian. And I thought I thought I could write that in in such a way. And a lot of that is just taken verbatim from it's the speech that Dan Aykroyd's character gives.

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But I figured if you and what I also thought would be funny about it was there will be people who don't get the joke until I mean, there will be,

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I suppose, people, especially like the younger generation that doesn't necessarily see everything. So they won't get that at all. But that's fine. There's no hope for them.

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And then there but there are the people I thought there will be some that won't pick it up at all. And then they'll hear Gozer, the Gozerian, and they'll recognize that character from Ghostbusters.

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And that'll be funny. And then there will be those that will pick it up fairly early on into the joke.

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Yeah. And then that will be funny because they'll get the payoff of, oh, I was right about that.

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So I like a joke that germinates at different stages for different people.

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That's that's fun for me. So that was how I kind of stumbled upon that. That's awesome. Well, hey,

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I reached out to some people on Twitter and Facebook before we started, and we're getting close to the hour mark now.

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And I know I don't want to take too much of your time, but I do want to ask if I could maybe just ask a few of the questions that people asked.

49:43

Yeah. If that's OK with you, we'll do sort of like maybe a lightning round here. Let's do it. All right.

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Well, this was I said, I'll be interviewing the brilliant and talented Hans Feeney.

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And so that is you. And and the first question, I love this question.

50:00

This was from the office Calvinist. He says, hey, can you make a heavy metal version of your

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Calvinist intro? I could. It would take a while. I don't have the voice for heavy metal, so I'd have to outsource that to someone who could do it.

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But it's within the realm of possibility. Well, I'm going to jump from that question to another one, because, again, the intro is such a blessing to me.

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But my friend who is in the video with me, Richard, he asked this question. He said, why

50:28

Pepsi and shoe polish? And I remember the conversation. I was in BJ's wholesale when you called me and we talked about the

50:34

Pepsi and shoe polish conversation. Yeah. Because you had another idea. I don't remember what it was.

50:39

Yeah. Well, the idea was we could still do this, was to do a couple of different versions of the song where we just plugged in something different every time, because I couldn't remember if it was like,

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I didn't know if your audience was so Baptist that they would be scandalized by Jack and Coke or something like that.

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I think you said whiskey and shoe polish was what you first told me. And I said, why shoe polish?

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And you just said, I think it's funny. And you're right. It is funny. And there are a lot of people email me and ask me what you're saying, because some people don't get why you would put

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Pepsi and shoe polish. I said, it's not supposed to make sense. It's supposed to be funny. Right. It's supposed to be just why on earth would that be a thing that you would drink?

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So I think that was the original idea was that I would record a bunch of different sort of ad libbed weird combination drinks,

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Sprite and oyster juice or whatever it might be.

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And then just kind of run with it from there. Awesome. What are your thoughts on me saying that Presbyterians have superior theology?

51:45

Give it to them. Well, you're wrong. I mean, Lutherans are right about everything. We're also handsomer and stronger.

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And so we win, but I'm glad that you're trying. I think it's sweet.

51:59

Well, it's funny because I'm not a Presbyterian either. I give it to them as a sort of a backdoor joke.

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Yeah. Let's see. A lot of people just saying they love the show. A lot of people saying they enjoy it.

52:13

Do you have any new Patrick videos coming out? Donald and Connell. Is there anything fresh coming for Donald and Connell?

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Not on the Donald and Connell front right now. A lot of times those videos are pretty fast to make.

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I have a handful of videos that are going to be way more time consuming. And so I kind of try to chip away at them as I have time.

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But the Donald and Connell ones take far less time than anyone else because the characters don't move at all and they don't blink.

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And blinking and moving will literally make a video take five times as long to make.

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And then, well, maybe two, three times as long to make. And then any videos with songs in them take a lot longer to make.

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So Donald and Connell typically aren't singing. So if I have a good idea for that, those will typically come out pretty quickly.

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But I haven't had anything pop into my head that's real kind of compelling on that front. Do you think all

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Baptists hate their children or just some of us? Yeah, I talked about this yesterday when

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I was speaking at the Lutheran Seminary here in St. Louis. So I did a video called Jim the

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Anabaptist Fireman, where the joke was that he wouldn't rescue children from a burning hospital until they asked to be rescued.

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And when someone said, aren't you afraid about those babies burning up? He said, no, everyone knows children are flame retardant until they reach the age of accountability.

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So when I did that, I had people say, look, I think your other videos are funny. But in this video, this sounds like you're saying that Baptists hate their children.

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To which my response was, that's exactly what I'm saying. Do I believe that Baptists hate their children?

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No, not in like a personal way, not in a disposition of the heart way.

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But do I believe that they are harming their children by denying them the precious gift of rebirth and renewal of the

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Holy Spirit? I certainly do believe that. That's fair. All right.

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Scottish Lutheran asked this question. He said, you are a voice in my conversion to Lutheranism.

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So tell people why they should become Lutheran. I'm actually giving you a platform to say this.

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I think it's very nice that you've done this. I would not give you this platform if I had my own podcast.

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So I don't know why you're doing this. This is like McDonald's having a podcast and inviting

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Burger King on and saying, tell us why people should go to your restaurant instead. Maybe I'm just so confident.

54:56

Maybe that's what it is. Maybe I'm just, yeah. No. Yeah. I mean, I guess this is always the question about like, is there an elevator pitch for Lutheranism?

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And there is, I suppose, if you know what a person's background is and where the person is coming from.

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But it's kind of hard to do in a generic sense, because what might be comforting or what a person might need to hear if they're coming from no background at all is maybe different than if they're coming from a

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Roman Catholic background, if they're coming from a Baptist background, whatever it might be. The closest thing

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I have to an elevator pitch is just simply comfort. That as a Lutheran, I know, here's what

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I know. What I definitively know based upon the word of God and what the

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Lutheran confession of faith, how we understand the word of God, which is that I am a sinner hopelessly lost in condemnation on account of my own sins.

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I have no capacity for saving myself. I have no capacity for lifting myself up out of the muck of condemnation.

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But God sent his son, Jesus Christ, into this world to be my savior from before the foundation of the world.

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My father in heaven loved me and sought to rescue me from the destruction of my own making. He sent his only begotten son into the flesh to be born under the law, to keep the law in my place, to offer up the life of perfection that I could not offer.

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He gave that life for me upon the cross. I can know that he gave that life for me because he gave that life for all men.

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And so I know that salvation was achieved. It was won for me through the cross and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

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And I can know that I have received that death and resurrection. I have received that salvation and personally appropriated it through the means of grace, which is through baptism and through the gifts of God.

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So in holy baptism, God made me his own. He called me to the faith. The Holy Spirit has created faith in my heart to receive that promise.

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That faith is not of my own making. It's not my own decision. My ability to believe is not contingent upon an act of my own will, if it were.

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I certainly would have rejected the faith. But God, in his mercy, created faith in my heart and in the waters of baptism has given me that promise.

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Whenever I hear the word proclaimed, that is Jesus Christ, my Lord, speaking through the mouth of the pastor to give me the word of absolution, to give me the word of peace and forgiveness, that when

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I commune, I receive the very body and blood of Jesus Christ that won salvation for me and have now delivered it to me.

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And it is my own possession to feast upon. And so everything in the end, why be a

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Lutheran? Everything that God, everything that I need to inherit eternal life has been freely and fully given to me in the ministry of Jesus Christ and his death and resurrection.

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And I can be certain that those gifts are for me because God has called me to receive them in the sacraments of the church.

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That would be my, it's a long elevator ride. I mean, so that's my elevator pitch for going from the ground floor to the 20th floor, maybe with a stop or two.

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So it's not a one, it's not a one floor elevator pitch, but that's about the best I can do. Sure.

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And it is amazing. I think, and you may disagree and that's okay, but it is amazing how much

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I would agree with you. I mean, I would hope that. Yeah. Well, we're going to get you eventually, Keith Foskey. I may not know it.

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Do you know who Josh Howard is of Eschatology Matters? No. Okay. Somebody said you are his doppelganger and I agree.

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So I'm gonna have to send you his picture. If he's not handsome, I will be upset. Have you ever had that thing where people go, do you know who you look like?

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And then they say an ugly person and you're going, why? First of all, it hurts that you would think that, but why on earth would you say that?

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I used to wait tables and within the same day, I had someone tell me,

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I had one person tell me that I looked like Alton Brown, you know, the chef, a celebrity chef who is,

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I would say not as good looking as I am. And then I had someone tell me that I looked like Brad Pitt, who is significantly better looking than I am.

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So in the end, you're just like, well, this is, this is worthless. This is an absolute wash. So people will always tell you, you look like someone who's better looking than you or worse looking than you, but never someone who just sort of looks like you, but a word of advice to people.

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If you ever tell someone that they look like someone and they go, oh gosh, don't double down telling them that you have hurt their feelings and then say, oh wait, no, that's the wrong name.

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I was thinking of Ryan Gosling, say that, just work your way out of it.

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Well, I can tell you that both you and Josh are much more handsome than I. Well, but imagine how handsome you'd be if you became a

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Lutheran. You can't disprove it. People have told me I look like Russell Crowe, but only now.

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He's older. 2000 Russell Crowe is a pretty big compliment. Now Russell Crowe, bless his heart.

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That's fine. He's living his life. He's just, he's just thicker in the face.

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That's all. There's, there's no crime in that. That happens to all of us. Yeah. There's a picture of him from that movie he did where he was having a crazy moment in the car and he was getting angry and, but he's heavier and he's smoking a cigarette and he's got like spit on his shirt and stuff.

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Everybody sends me that picture and says, you look just like me. Yeah. You guys got to stop doing that.

01:00:40

Send, send LA confidential pictures of Russell Crowe to Keith Foskey and say, you look like this.

01:00:46

That's nicer. There you go. All right. Well, let me pull up a couple more real quick, fast ones here.

01:00:53

I asked you already, if you're making any more videos, well, I guess I asked you about Donald Connell. You have any other, you have anything new coming, not

01:01:00

Donald Connell, but just new videos that you're working on? Slowly, but surely. Yeah. Hopefully I should have a couple coming in the next few months.

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What's your favorite hymn? And I'm going to ask you this two ways. What's your favorite hymn of all time? And then what's your favorite Christmas hymn?

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Cause I know we're in the Christmas season. My favorite hymn of all time is probably, oh gosh, that's a, that's a tough one.

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It kind of depends on the season. Um, but, uh, wake awake for night is flying is a

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Lutheran hymn that not a whole lot of folks know. Look it up. Read, uh, you can find the lyrics, uh, on the internet.

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Wake awake for night is flying is written by a Lutheran pastor named Philip Nikolai, who was a pastor in Germany during I think 30 years war.

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And then an outbreak of the plague, he buried 1700 members in a span of nine months and was around the time that he wrote that hymn.

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So it's, it's marvelously beautiful. You will, if you're not Lutheran and you read it, you will be angry at the fact that this hymn just has been around your whole life and you never knew it.

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So that's, uh, that's my favorite hymn overall. My favorite Christmas hymn, again, another one that probably most, a lot of Lutherans don't know it, um, but that hardly anyone would know is, um, it was the hymn that I used in the

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Martin Luther yells about inferior Anglican Christmas hymns video or whatever that was called. Uh, and, um,

01:02:24

I'm now I'm totally blanking on the name. Hold on. Oh Jesus Christ thy manger is, which is a hymn written by Paul Gerhart, who for my money is the greatest hymnist of all time.

01:02:35

That's a beautiful meditation upon the incarnation of our Lord. So that would be a big one as well as, um, uh, of the father's love begotten would be another one, very ancient, ancient hymn there.

01:02:48

Awesome. Well, a lot of these are just thanking you for your work. A couple of people asked you if you're friends with Chris Roseboro.

01:02:54

I think you, I know Chris. Yeah, I've met him. I've met him a couple of times. So, uh, we are, we are friendly and you're both

01:03:01

LCMS, right? He is AALC, which is, um, where they're in fellowship with us, but it's a separate church body for long, boring, uninteresting reasons.

01:03:12

Well, last one, somebody sent me this picture. I don't know if you'd be able to see it, but this is a picture of you in a, uh,

01:03:17

It's my, yeah. My Advent Chausable. I took that, posted it on Twitter yesterday. Yeah. Well, someone asked who made it for you.

01:03:24

Did you, did you buy that or just, uh, So there's a group called Ecclesial Sewing. Uh, if you just Google Ecclesial Sewing, you should find them.

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They have a Twitter handle. It's not their Twitter handles, not Ecclesial Sewing. So you'd have to kind of look around for that, but yeah, they do marvelous, marvelous work.

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If you go to a church that, whether you're a pastor uses vestments, I highly, highly recommend them.

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I have a incredibly generous member who's, uh, ordered and helped design a whole set of those for me.

01:03:51

Uh, so marvelous stuff. Awesome. Well, brother, I'm, I'm so grateful that you spent the last hour with me and we got a chance to talk and catch up.

01:03:59

It's always a joy talking to you. Well, I appreciate that very much. And I'm going to bring us out with the slow version of the song that you wrote.

01:04:08

It was the first one you sent to me and I still use it. Oh, it's the demo version. Okay. Yeah. But I didn't auto tune my vocals on that one.

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So I'm a little afraid to hear it. It's so great to me, but here's the thing. I, this one,

01:04:21

I think of the first one makes me think of Perfect Strangers. Yeah, that was, that was what I was going for. Yeah. But this one is

01:04:27

Cheers. So I tell people think of Cheers. So guys, if you like this video, first of all, let me say this, uh,

01:04:33

Hans, thank you. If you want to learn more about Hans, check out Lutheran satire on YouTube.

01:04:38

You can, if you don't know where he is, go find him and watch all the videos. You'll love him. Is there anything you want to tell people as far as how to contact you or any questions about that or anything?

01:04:46

Oh, you can find me at Hans Feeney on Twitter. Uh, that's probably the best way to, uh, to learn what nonsense is running through my head at any given moment.

01:04:56

Awesome. Well, again, thank you for being on the show, Hans. I appreciate it. My pleasure. Thank you guys for watching and supporting the show.

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