Psalm 2

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We would love to be able to do that and answer any questions that we can. We had some changes tonight.

We were going to look at the second half of Daniel chapter 11, but we had some quick changes.

So tonight we're going to look at Psalm chapter 2, and we want to continue to look at it from a post -millennial perspective.

And just to give a little reason why we want to do that, I know that a lot of our videos have been on post -millennialism, but there's good reason for that.

And this is from my perspective. This is my opinion. And Dan, you can touch on this if you want to, why you think it's important for us to have this conversation.

But excuse me, growing up, I didn't know that there were other views of eschatology or end times, eschatology meaning end times or end things.

I didn't know there were other viewpoints. I just thought there was the one. And that of the one,

I only knew certain key points that were brought out in sermons.

And learning the fine points of that one viewpoint was very difficult to try to understand and figure out.

You had to do a lot of jumping jacks and putting puzzle pieces together.

And still it was so hard to understand for me. And I'm thinking, is that the only view?

And no, that's not the only view. And not only are we not having conversation in our churches about end times, no, it's not the only doctrine.

We need to have conversations and teachings on everything in scripture. But this is one of the key doctrines in scripture, the second coming of Christ, the end times and how we view it, how we interpret it, how we understand it from scripture makes a difference in our life and how we apply it.

So when we look at scripture, when we let the

Bible tell us what eschatology, what end times doctrine it teaches, we let

God tell us that. We let God put us in a box and let him tell us who he is and what he's doing, what he's going to do.

And then once he does that, then we can look at other passages of scripture and see it in light of what

God has taught us and then apply those things. I had a couple of conversations today and they were, of course, one of the reasons you want to wear provocative shirts is to start provocative conversations.

And that's what I did today. It started the conversation. They were asking me about post -millennialism and if I knew what it meant and talking about the other views.

And of course, the mark of the beast come up. This person was actually an amillennialist, but they still believe that we're going to go through a tribulation.

And the conversation for him even led to the mark of the beast and the financial situation and how things have changed and everything's going to a digital currency.

And there's even people putting chips in their body in certain countries.

He was talking about it and he said he was warning me about the chip for the financial reason or whatever reasons and warning me not to get it because that was probably going to be the mark of the beast.

And my question, Dan, was what's wrong with the technical advancements, technology advancements in our financial services?

What's wrong with that? Theologically or practically? I give you a lot of problems practically.

Well, practically, yeah. I had my practical arguments against why I didn't want to get the chip.

But theologically, you know, coming from a post -mill perspective, you know, the conversation starts off with you have gold or whatever you barter and then you have gold and then you have eventually, however the financial system progressed, eventually you have paper money, you have

IOUs, you have coins, and then you have credit cards, debit cards, and it's all going digital.

And now, of course, there are, we do know that there are people putting chips or whatever that you can just, you know, scan.

And they make bracelets now for business cards or digital cards where you can scan it with your phone and your information pops up like a digital business card.

But theologically, you know, from a post -mill perspective, how would you answer that?

From a post -millennial perspective, I don't think it has much to do with the end times.

Now, it does have a lot to do with how we conduct ourselves as Christian. That we, as those who are supposed to be discipling the nations, you know, how are we going to teach people about being secure with their funds?

How are we going to make sure that we are being practical and wise in our business dealings? How are we, as Christians, going to be the ones who come out of the other side of a recession or even a complete global economic meltdown like it looks like we're heading into?

How are we going to be the ones who can show the rest of the world this is how you survive when, you know, you have a moment where everything kind of implodes on itself, you know?

How is it that the Christian can say that things are okay and things are going to get better? Well, how would we say that?

And we say that because of the way that the Bible has taught us to be wise with our money, to be secure in our dealings.

There's several things in the Proverbs about not giving loans to people where you don't have security in it.

Go, if you've made a, I think of one is if you make a, if you've put up a pledge for someone,

I think it's for someone you don't know or for someone that you don't trust, like run, go back, get your cloak back.

Don't fall into that trap. So as far as going on a gold standard or a bar system, we need to be anti -fragile.

But as far as looking out for a mark of the beast or a end times thing where we may inadvertently get tripped up into something, there's a lot of freedom knowing that that's not the case.

Now, it could very well be that we may back ourselves into a corner where some of this stuff may function like the mark of the beast or drop your pinch of incense here, or you can't buy or sell.

Go through your diversity training. Don't say that there's only two genders. Don't say that marriage is only between a man or a woman.

Deny these doctrines of God. Deny his creative order, the way that he said things are going to be.

Deny those things and you can have commerce. You can buy and sell and trade. We do need to take lessons from the

Bible and from the early church and things like that. So practically speaking, there's a lot that we can learn.

As far as looking for a mark of the beast or something like that,

I think that is over. I don't want to lose my train of thought, but I just had, oh yeah, just going off what you were just saying, we don't want to take the footing away from ourselves in my opinion that we have right now, the position.

We don't want to give up the position that we have right now when it comes to being able to do some of those things that you were talking about.

You think about the first century church and the position that they were in.

We talk about how from the post -mill perspective, well, it's not just the post -mill perspective.

I mean, it's just reality. The church started out small and now

I know I've heard you quote this quite a few times. There are more

Christians today than there were people alive in the time of Jesus. And so they didn't have much of a choice but to either say

Jesus is Lord or Caesar is Lord and be done with it. They didn't have much choice, but look where we are now.

Look at the footing that we have now, the position that we have now. We can, and this is part of the conversation, a different conversation that I had with somebody different after the one earlier.

We were talking about where our churches are today and they want entertainment.

We want entertainment. I want to be entertained. Our churches want to be entertained. We set aside biblical knowledge.

We set aside truth because we want our way. We want certain things. We want entertainment, whatever it is that we want in the church.

We set aside the biblical standard and biblical truth. And I said, well, there's something else that you can add to that.

We set aside scripture and all the mandates of scripture because we've been taught that the rapture is imminent and we're going to escape this world.

And so no wonder we're losing our footing. No wonder we're not taking advantage of the position that we're in.

God has given us a country where we can, Christians can hold office.

Christians can vote. Christians can have influence. But all we're doing is living out practically our eschatology we've been taught.

You know, set aside scripture and just look for the imminent return of Christ, the imminent rapture that's going to happen any moment and not worry about the world because it's just going downhill anyway.

And that was part of the conversation that we had. And we shouldn't lose the footing and lose the position because this could be a glorious time.

Part of the conversation that I had with folks trying to introduce them to the anti -abortion ministry that I'm a part of trying to get my county to pass a resolution that says we are a safe county for the preborn and their families.

I was telling these folks, look, this could be the Berlin Wall of our time.

We could see this wall fall down. On one side, you have babies being murdered. And on the other side, you have freedom for children and freedom for God's word and morality and freedom for life.

And we need to break down this wall. If we just continue doing as is, you know, we vote for the right politician and then we go back to our normal lives, we're just going to continue to go through the same cycle.

But there are things that we can do. God has given us this position where we can have influence and we can do things, where we can tear down walls and save babies.

We can save marriage. We can win this world for Christ.

But if we continue to set aside the knowledge, set aside the truth, set aside the

Bible, and living out that practical theology that comes from the premillennial dispensational view, we're just going to continue to cycle.

And that's why we want to have this conversation about postmillennialism and the truth of it, why we see it in scripture, why we believe that's what

God teaches, and how it can bring joy to your life, how you can actually see things change in your lifetime if we live this out practically.

If we actually preach that God is in control, that Jesus reigns, but we need to live it.

We need to live out that theology and not just, you know, have our eyes to the sky looking for this certain event.

Anything else you want to add? Well, there's so many things that we can get caught up with, thinking that we either sit back and do nothing or think that we're in such a small position that we're not going to be able to affect any change.

And not that only that we personally wouldn't be able to, but that there's no possibility of affecting any change, of course, through the preaching of the gospel.

But Proverbs 30, 28 says the lizard is easily grasped with his hand, but it's even in king's palaces.

How easy is it to take down just one Christian? I mean, it'd be super easy to cancel just one

Christian, just to put him to the side. But where are we? We're everywhere.

I mean, we're like little lizards, like crawling on walls and stuff. Think about it.

The book of Esther. Esther was just hanging out. She got scooped up by a king who got in a fight with his wife.

And all of a sudden she's in the king's palace. Why? She was pretty, because God put her there.

And then what spectacular thing did she do? She didn't do anything incredibly spectacular.

But what did she do? She was faithful. She went to her husband and said, hey, you realize that you've just said that all of my people can die.

Why would you do that to us? He's like, I did what? I shouldn't be doing this.

And then the Jews were saved, all because Esther was faithful to her

God and to her people. It doesn't take much. And that's the thing. On our end,

God's plans aren't always known. And generally it's not something large scale that's going to affect the most change.

It's just going to be the simple, basic, everyday being

God's people that is going to affect change. So when we look at certain things like Psalm 2, which we're about to look at, maybe,

I don't know, we may get lost, but there's plots and schemes and plans that the world just has no plan for God in.

And yet God is going to put his purpose forward through one little decision here, one little faithful person there, all the way to where his gospel has gone forward.

And his kingdom is established all over the earth. The knowledge of the glory of the

Lord covers the earth as the waters cover the seas, like Habakkuk and Isaiah both said.

Yeah. Yeah. And I want to latch on to what something that you said, because you said something that was brought out in our sermon at church this morning, that is so encouraging.

And I want to encourage the people that are watching the video with this word. You ask yourself, what can

I do? Who am I and what can I do? I'm just one person.

I'm just one Christian. You know, we're supposed to be changing the world, taking over the world.

What can I do? Let me encourage you with this. The sermon was from Isaiah 43, one through three.

And it says, Now thus says the Lord, your creator, O Jacob, and he who formed you,

O Israel, do not fear, for I have redeemed you. We've got to look at the weightiness of what these words are in these verses.

God is our creator and he formed us. What does that mean? It's just what Dan said about Esther. He made you and he put you where you are and he put you in those circumstances and he put you there because he made you to fit that circumstance and he's going to be with you and protect you and use you in those circumstances.

So whether you are ministering to one individual or 1 ,000 individuals, we shouldn't compare ourselves with one another.

We should be living in joy because I'm ministering where God put me and how he made me to minister.

And that's why women, especially mothers, are so important because mothers in raising their children well are doing the work of ministering to those young people's lives.

I think in the final analysis, we're going to see far more faithful women in high places for eternity because they did just that.

They were in their place of submitting to God and they did as they were supposed to do and making sure their children heard the word of God and were uplifted and raised in the faith because they were faithful to what

God had called them to do. Whereas a whole bunch of dudes out here trying to do stuff on their own strength, just messing stuff up all over the place, which guilty.

We'll probably have to answer for a bit more of why we're so boneheaded on the final analysis.

So I guess we'll keep each other honest, I guess. I'm totally on board with what you're saying.

Totally on board. We have to understand the reality.

In 100 years, nobody's going to, after we're gone 100 years later, nobody's going to remember who we are.

But God made us. We are precious to the precious one because he made us.

We're his. And he bought us with a price. He redeemed us. He made us. We're made in his image.

And we were redeemed. We were bought with a price. So we were made precious in both aspects.

And we were made for a purpose. And that purpose is the ministry in the circumstances where God put us.

And he's going to reward obedience. And it's not like the world sees it.

We want to compare ourselves with the world and how our life is turning out.

And does it look like what the world says it should look like? That's not where our reward is going to come from.

That's not where God is going to receive the glory. It's like Dan was saying. God's going to receive the glory and we're going to receive the reward for our obedience.

And we may feel like we're stuck in a dungeon and we're not making a difference, but we are glorifying

God because we're being obedient. And that's what matters. That's what counts.

And that's looking at the big picture. And that's what we want to do as post -millennialists is look at the big picture and not the small picture, because that's how

God is working over the big picture. You ready to look at Psalm chapter two?

Yeah. Let's show people how we can take down the communists. Okay, let's do it. We want to tear down that wall.

We want to save babies and we want to bring God's glory to this nation and this world. Psalm chapter two, if you're following with us, if you want to look in your

Bibles, let's take it one verse at a time. It's not very long.

It's starting at verse one. Why are the nations in an uproar? When I read that verse,

Dan, I'm sorry to stop already, but when I read that verse, I think about conversations that I've had with folks that are, you know, pre -millennial dispensation with Amil.

They can't help but remind me of how bad things look.

Things are looking so bad. And I read this verse and I'm like, so did the

Psalmist. You know, we are not unique in things looking bad.

Yeah, kind of though, because he real quick changes his tune, but we'll get there in a little bit.

I wanted to say that it's tempting to look at the world as being horrific and wrong when we see the,

I got the new King James in front of me today for some reason. It says, why do the nations rage?

You know, why are they up in arms? Why are they brah? Why are they doing stuff against God?

And then to remember on our end that sin is self -destructive. Like what is the end of sin?

It's death. It implodes on itself. So the nastier, the more wicked a nation becomes, it's not something to fear.

It's something to say, all right, God's about to do something because he said, hold on for a second.

I've got to let the Amorites fill up their wickedness. But 400 years later, when they'd filled up their wickedness, they were destroyed.

It's the we look out at the nations raging against God today. What do we think?

Do we, as they get worse, do we think, oh no, here it comes? Or do we think, all right, here it comes.

Right, right. And just to hear you say that brings me joy. I'm looking at Christ and I'm being filled with joy because of my perspective, because of the perspective that you're talking about.

And I won't, I so desire, I don't want to use the word won't, but I so desire that, and I faced difficulties in the past and the difficulties that God has brought in my life.

But when I face difficulties in the future, my desire is for the

Holy Spirit to continue to work that perspective in my heart.

Look, God is doing something and God is going to do something. God is accomplishing something and it's for his, for my good and his glory.

And, instead of doom and gloom, instead of self absorbing self, um, you know, woe is me, have that perspective that you're talking about.

Because, and I think now's the time to do it. And we shouldn't feel guilty for having that joy right now because it's, that was another point in the sermon that we heard today, is that for us to have that perspective, then you've got to be practicing that perspective now.

I think it's good for us to do that. Yeah. It's good to remember that Christians are like cockroaches and Twinkies.

When everything melts down, we're still going to be here. Right. It said so in, uh, in Romans eight, um, it gives a long list, you know, what can separate us from the love of Christ, can peril or famine or sword, or it lists four or five other things.

And then it says in things, you know, in those things, in the tribulation and the trial and the persecution in, you know, when you're starving to death, when people are trying to cancel you and put you out, it's in those moments that you are more than a conqueror through him who loved us.

So it's in, it's in those moments that we see our victory. You know, people think that victory looks like, uh,

World War II. They think it looks like, Hey, America came in swinging and we won.

We put those, those folks back over there in Germany. We'll put those folks back over there in Japan and Italy kind of took care of itself.

Who knows what they were doing. And, uh, but it's not like that, uh, because, you know,

I forget where, um, but he says that, uh, that God's going to get the glory for it.

And that, uh, it was, it was a story of Gideon. Um, he says, uh, I basically told him,

I whittled you down to 300 people because in the end, I want you to be able to point and say,

God gave us this victory. Yeah. And when, when, when you think the enemy's looking at you and they're just seeing, you know, one, um, it may be that circumstance where they're, they're looking and they see the whole ridge full of torches and soldiers.

And it's, and we need to remember that visible or not the ridge behind it, the ridge beside of us on either side of us, the

Lord will never leave us nor forsake us. So our, our quiver is always full of arrows because we've got the

Lord. Um, our, our ridge is always full of soldiers because we have the

Lord. Um, and just, just having Him is, is all we need.

Right. And that's why you should have children. I'm serious. That's what the whole, uh, having quiver full is about.

It's about having children and then firing your arrows at the devil. That's right. You know, you're not just having children to, to say one one's pink and one's blue who, who now we're through having children because it is a means of combating evil.

No, I should be able to take my sons and my daughter and, you know, they turn 18 and kind of draw back and let an arrow fly.

And then, you know, watch what havoc my, if my son's wrecked half the havoc on the kingdom of Satan as they have on my living room, they're going to tear some stuff up.

Well, and that's another reason why we're in the shape that we're in is because we want to, uh, we've been duped into thinking that we should be striving for the

American dream instead of the creation mandate. Right. And that creation mandate has extended through all the, all the forefathers throughout the old

Testament up until Jesus who, um, through us, he is going to be the one who successfully fulfills that mandate.

And we're, we get to be a part of that. And so we, we need to leave this, um, self -absorbed

American dream, you know, to the side in the trash and follow the creation mandate and the great commission.

Let's get, let's go on to a verse one, part B, and then I'll read, maybe read a two or three and the, and the people's devising a vain thing.

The Kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers take counsel together against the

Lord is anointed. Let us tear their fetters apart and cast away their cords from us.

What's going on here, Dan? Um, it, uh,

I guess the best way to look at it is that people are trying to assert their own autonomy and we've seen it all the way back in the garden.

Um, Eve knew what was right and what was wrong. Um, I don't know if she added in the extra rule of, you know, don't touch because she had been mistaught or because she understood the seriousness of, of what she was up against and touching the fruit or not tasting the fruit or, or whatever.

But, but the, the big thing that happened there was that she thought that she could determine what was right and wrong for herself.

Um, Adam, you know, seeing nothing happened to his wife said, well, Hey, that's pretty good. Let me try to determine what was right and wrong for myself as well.

And, um, instead of being deceived, he up and does something willfully sinful.

Um, we see it, um, all over the place. Folks do not want to listen to what

God has to say. We see it in the abortion issue in, uh, people making, uh, evil, evil laws in regards to finance.

Uh, we think just back in our own country's history of, uh, redlining, um, different bank practices, uh, subprime mortgages.

Um, back in Israel's history, if you look at, uh, Micah, uh, he talks about people who would make laws in order to steal money from folks.

Um, they do things, the nations, we as humans want to determine what is right or wrong.

So that way we can live the lot, our lives the way that we want to, in order to live without having that judge over top of us.

And that that's what it gets down to. It's not so much, we want this law or that law because this makes us feel good.

It's, we do not want to have a God over us who can tell us what to do. They're plotting a vain thing.

They're taking counsel together saying, well, if we just set ourselves up like this, that God guy won't be a problem anymore.

We can put Christianity to bed once and for all. We don't have to listen to that, to that garbage that hate speech.

Yeah. Um, that's why it says their bonds, let's break their bonds because they think that, that the reason they think that it's a really twisted way of looking at sin.

Um, they look at the problem of sin as if, if there was no one there to tell us it was wrong, it wouldn't actually be wrong.

So they're saying that because there is a law giver, they're breaking of the law, uh, puts them in bondage to sin.

So if you do away with the law, there is no sin. Therefore they don't have any bonds.

They don't have any fetters. They don't have any chains on them. They can be free. Um, and you, you hear that language, uh, the sexual revolution, um, different things going on in our culture today with the, uh, the

LGBTQ plus, um, agenda, um, reproductive, you hear reproductive freedom.

It's not reproductive freedom. You're murdering a child. You just don't want the consequences.

Uh, you, they, and cast their cords away from us. We don't want you to bind us to, we don't want our consciences bound to what

God has to say. We want to take that, tear it down, throw it away. And we want to live lives on our own terms. They want to be

God. It's pure paganism is what it is. And I'm getting,

I'm getting this, um, the taking their stand and, and let us, let us break the chains or tear the bonds that you were talking about.

And, and that connection that the Psalmist is making with, um, his anointed.

So the, the, um, casting away of the, the chains, the, the bonds is, is an attack on, on the anointed, on the

Messiah. Right. Which is coming to take away sins of the world anyway. Yeah. Yeah.

It doesn't make a lot of sense. It's like, we don't want your, we don't, you're the one who caused the problem and we don't want your solution anyway.

So please leave us alone. Yeah. Uh, it takes, takes tons of different forms.

I was only half playing about how to take down the communist. It takes the communism is one of them that where they set themselves up to be

God law giver. Um, we're seeing America where we're just, we're trying to do it in a more

Republic, uh, democracy type setting.

Uh, you saw it in the monarchs, you know, people who, the Caesars claim to be deity.

Yeah. Well, and you can see this, um, you can see this in the conversations that you have with the, uh, uh, going back to your perspective coming from the, the pre meal dispensation coming from a, um, milk coming from post meal.

Um, you can see that in the conversations you have with them. Um, because the, the, the folks that are looking for the, or they're seeing the gradual or continual decline, everything's going to get, continue to get worse and worse and worse.

Um, they're usually the ones that, that have the perspective. Um, we don't need to mix religion and politics.

I can't speak to this from the pulpit because it's, it's political. I don't need to get political.

Um, uh, you know, we just, uh, need to keep it separate from religion. You have that perspective and they hold that perspective.

Uh, but here that those political, um, conversations that you were bringing up, the, the life issue, the, the gender issue, the marriage issue, you know, all those political issues, the psalmist is telling us is an attack against the

Messiah. Yeah. And so therefore it becomes, um, uh, an, uh, attack against us attacking against our team and it becomes part of our battle.

Right. You almost, and it's, I don't think it's on purpose. So if anybody's listening from one of these perspectives, um, especially the guys that we do, uh, these programs,

I'm not trying to like put this on y 'all. Right. Right. It's not everybody using, uh, but it, it looks

Gnostic. And here's what I mean by that. It looks like we've made a distinction between the physical realm that we live in and the spiritual realm as the physical realm that we live in being evil and lost and the spiritual realm being good and positive.

Yes. And they don't mix. Right. Whereas we know that the earth is the

Lord's and all that's in it. It's not just a spiritual thing when, or it's not just a physical thing, an earthly temporal thing.

When these, uh, political leaders are acting out against God, it is also inherently spiritual because the, the, the spiritual and physical realms are well distinct.

They are a part of one reality. So to say that, you know, I can't get political from the pulpit.

Like you have to, like, you don't have a choice. Like everything that is done in the political realm is a spiritual act as well.

There's, there's no, uh, division there, which is why I don't see, I don't see that argument as being very valid.

Um, it's, it's not just a spiritual thing or a physical thing. There is one reality that we're a part of.

And while there are different aspects of that reality, we have to live with the understanding of there being a whole, a whole thing there.

So while we are, while we may go out at, um, specifically like what you're doing in Lincoln County with the, with the abortion issue, trying to do those things, you're not just trying to do that for as a political stand.

Um, no, go elephants, Republicans, you're going to win what you're the whole reason behind is because Jesus is

Lord. And because people need salvation and healing from that center of abortion that is so prevalent in the area.

Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Uh, that was pretty much it.

I was just going to say, I'll say it again. Go ahead. Oh, well, I'm, I'm just reminded of more things that were brought up in the conversation that I had today, even though, even though the person that I was talking to is, is more on meal, they also see the need to be, um, you know, politically, uh, motivated and the fact that we need believers in office and that, and this person saw the, um, they saw that, um, the fact that Jesus is on his throne,

Jesus is King. So therefore, um, it is political in and of itself because he's, he's

King, he's Lord, he's ruler. And so therefore it makes, it makes it political. It's not just spiritual and, you know, and invisible world versus physical material world.

No, Jesus is King. Therefore he's overall. Um, he quoted the hymn.

This is my father's world. He talked about God being the God of this world. Um, back, you know, come that will be done on earth as is in heaven.

He keep, he kept putting these post meal verses and I'm like, yeah, yeah. Um, so with, with Jesus being

King, that is a political position and he is ruling and reigning and putting all of, all of his enemies under his feet.

And this is, um, this, this battle takes place, um, on all fronts on this entire globe, not just in the spiritual evangelistic world.

Right. It's almost as if we think that because we can distinguish things theologically, because we can systematize things into different systematic theologies or whatever, um, that because they can be distinguished, they can be divided.

Um, and they, they can't be, we can distinguish them because they are different, but we can't divide them because they're all part of a one, a big holistic universe, a reality that was created by God for his purposes.

So if we, at some point tried to divide those things and put the, you know, this is in this realm, this is in that realm and they'll never meet.

Well, of course they meet because they have one creator, they have one ruler and one set of laws that govern everything based on the character of God.

So it's all inherently intertwined and interconnected, even though we can make distinctions on a philosophical or a theological level.

Um, I think, and, and just for example, when I was in a

Bible college, one of the things that we did in a system, we had systematic theology for two semesters and we would take each area and we would study each area of that bit of theology.

And then we would say, okay, well, here are the different positions and which one will

I pick? Well, I'm going to pick the one that sounds the most, um, the most biblical to me.

And you'd go through and say, okay, well, I'm going to be a creationist on this standpoint, a continuationist here, no premillennialist here.

I'm going to be a quasi Calvinist there. And you go through and you can pick out all of your different, no smorgasbord of systematics and put it together.

That's my theology. And then you're never really challenged to kind of see how they all intermingle. Um, it's the same type of thing.

When we look at the world around us, we can say, okay, well, these are going to be my political beliefs in regard to abortion or in regards to, you know, marriage in regards to, um, finances, economy, these things, these are going to be my stances on spiritual matters.

And then we don't see how they kind of come together and are interconnected. So we almost take a smorgasbord approach to the world around us when we can't.

Uh, somebody said something. Oh, I'm glad you noticed that.

Um, I wasn't even paying attention. I was, I was thinking of something. I'll, I'll pin it up here. If that would be done on earth, this isn't heaven.

Postmill has given me an all new meaning to the Lord's prayer. Sure. It doesn't sound like it is a separate round to me.

Yeah, absolutely. And as you were talking,

I was thinking about, um, one of the sermons I heard in the, uh, I believe it was going back to the postmill conference that, that cruciform ministries did.

Um, and I think it was Peter Boland that, that did this message. I really appreciated his message in that conference, but he was talking about, um,

I think it was apologetics and post -millennialism and, and the fact, and you know, that's what you were bringing up, all your different theologies, your, your apologetics, your, your eschatology, your ecclesiology, every, every system of beliefs that you, that you form.

One of his main themes and emphasis in that message was it's got to be consistent.

It will be consistent. If you're holding to something and believing something that's not jiving, that's not, that's not fitting with everything else, then you may need to rethink it and look at it again because, um,

God is consistent and your theologies will, will flow and have some consistency to it.

They will build upon one another. Um, and, and that's one of the things that drew me to post -millennialism because it was,

I mean, it was just seemed like the, the natural flow into the direction that I needed to go from, you know, learning all these other different theologies and drawing them from scripture, uh, where else do

I need to go? Post -millennialism just, just fit right in there.

And, and so it just, everything should be consistent. Um, and I think, you know, challenging, uh, doing what you said, they didn't give you the chance to do, challenging those, uh, they, they let you go through the smorgasbord of, of different doctrines and theologies, but, but giving, taking the time and giving yourself a chance to, to challenge those things, um, and not keep them separate, but see how they build on one another and see how they, they fit together.

Um, I think helps out a lot too, to make sure that you're, you're on the right course, going in the right direction.

Does that make sense? Absolutely. All right. Let's, let's look at four and on verse four.

He who sits in the heavens laughs, the Lord scoffs at them. So why does he scoff at them?

Why is he laughing? Have you ever seen your, your kids try to play a prank on you and you see it coming a mile away and there's nothing that they can do to actually make it happen?

You, you, you're on top of it. Yeah. It, it's kind of the same, the same thing.

Um, God is so much higher, better, more powerful, glorious, and good than we are.

And for these people to plot and scheme so hard, like they have a chance.

He sits up in the heavens and goes, is that all you got? Like, you, you know, this isn't going to end well for you.

Like I, I promised that the seed of, of the woman was going to crush the head of the serpent, you know, right after the first sin.

Why do you think this is a viable course of action for you? Yeah. Um, and he even says, so he goes, how, he's like, really, this, this is your plan.

I, I've already set up my counter plan, you know, before the foundations of the world. That's what he gets into.

And, and, uh, verse five and especially six, then he will speak to them in his anger and terrify them in his fury.

But as for me, I have installed my King upon Zion, my holy mountain.

Yeah. Uh, this, this vividly in my head is imprinted just the way that God is responding here because he is at first he's, he's laughing.

He's like, is that all you, you got? And he's got that, that little smirk, that smile on his face. And then it changes to a very serious, intense, wrathful, righteous anger.

I have set my King on my hill in Zion. Who are you to do anything else?

Who are you to set yourself up to plot and scheme against my King who I've set up overall of creation?

It's, oh man, it just kind of like, ah, I don't,

I don't want to be on the wrong end of this because if he is so not worried about me, that he's going to laugh.

And yet he's so serious about his own holiness and glory that he's going to just respond with.

I've already set up my King and he's on my holy hill. Are you seeing this as prophetic?

Uh, yeah, I think it's talking about the coming of Christ. Okay. Uh, well prophetic then historic now.

Okay. So he was talking about the coming of Christ to the world. Right. Right. Which to David, right.

Would have been then would have been future to us would have been past. So who is, no, he, he lasted those who are setting up their, their kingdoms and their ways to fight against God.

And his response is I'm sending my son to sit on the throne. Yeah. What's amazing is that now that Christ is sitting on the throne, he is on his holy hill of Zion.

The nations haven't gotten the hint yet. Like, like the, the wrath, the, the displeasure, the, the doing end of sin has been accomplished and sits in, in plain view to the nations and yet they, they rebel.

Um, yeah, but it's, it gets better.

All right. Let's look at verse seven. I will surely tell the, the decree of the Lord. He said to me, thou art my son today.

I have begotten thee. Now that sounds familiar. Ask, ask of me. And I earth as that position.

Right. I think, I think, I don't think

Jesus forgot to ask. No, no, I don't. I don't think he did.

I think that that is, that is what we're seeing that even as, um, these nations are plotting and scheming and it's

God and his, his system, his right to rule over his own creation. Um, the son has asked for the nations as his inheritance.

And that's why he tells us in, in Matthew 28 to go and disciple the nations, teaching them all that I've commanded.

Why? Because we're his, uh, even if our, our political structures are in rebellion, we are his and we need to answer to him as if we are his, um, which, which is why, and I may catch flack for this.

I don't care. That's why the founding of America was such a weird thing that when we put in our constitution, we didn't say that we were under the leadership and rule of Jesus Christ up until that point.

Um, in history, it had been explicitly stated in the year, at least the European context, the

Christian European nations, all when they set up their government said under the rule and authority of Jesus Christ, we act like this.

Yeah. And then when you come to the constitution of the United States, Jesus is not there.

Right. And even when the Kings didn't, that, you know, they may have said it, it may have been in their documents, you know, and even though they didn't live it, it was still, you know, there, it was still understood, you know, and you had the, the, the church, the church and the government were, you know, they were either the same or, you know, on par with one another, um, throughout that time.

And then when you had, you had the pilgrims come over, you know, we just celebrate Thanksgiving and you've got the

Mayflower compact and they come over, you know, honoring the King of England, the

King of France. And I think it was Ireland that mentioned, um, but in that, you know, that first statement of the

Mayflower compact, they, they are coming, um, to glorify God and to, and to evangelize, you know, and, and how do you evangelize?

What's the good news? It's, it's Jesus Christ. Right. Um, and so up until that point, you, you have this, this notion that, that we are living for the glory of God and the advancement of the gospel.

Right. Which is why, uh, you hear, uh, John the Baptist and Jesus saying that, um, the, the, the, he was preaching the gospel of the kingdom.

What, what kingdom without a King? What King without a throne? And here it's saying, I've declared, no, you are my son to death, uh, begotten you.

Uh, I have set my, my King, uh, on my holy mountain, um, asked for, uh, the nations for your inheritance, and I will give them to you and you're going to rule over them.

No, there's your kingdom. It was established at the coming of Christ. Um, no, basically the, the constitution of his kingdom ratified in the blood of Jesus who takes away the sin of the world.

Um, it's a very, very, uh, serious thing. Yeah. Especially to see us, um, and our political structures today, just kind of not take that very seriously.

So it seems like, you know, just tagging onto what you were saying in that conversation, it seems like we could be, it could have been a lot further than we are in this process of, um, submitting to the

Lordship of Christ, that the Kingship of Christ, if we would have started at the beginning of the nation, like you were talking about with the, with the declaration, with the constitution, with our founding documents, but potentially, yeah, it could have gone south other ways, but potentially because if we would have held ourselves to that standard, that Christ is our

King as a nation, if we would have held ourselves to that standard, um, instead of, uh, the standard that we had, that, that we would allow religious freedom.

And we did that with good intentions that we wouldn't have, you know, a tyrant

King come and tell us that we couldn't worship Christ, which is, which is why, um, which is why we, we, we set it up the way that we did here in America.

Um, but we also shot ourselves in the foot because we didn't give ourselves the standard of worshiping

Christ to Christ alone. So that way in the name of, um, in the name of tolerance and the name of trying to maintain religious freedom for ourselves, uh, we allowed any, uh,

Tom, Dick, and Harry to come in and, you know, I want to be a

Satanist. Cool. Uh, you know, I guess we'll let you have equal time in the classroom.

Wait, Christian, since this is your country, even though you don't have Christ on the documents anywhere, uh, you don't get to talk, but we're going to let the, the atheists and the

Muslim and the Satanist and the Hindu and all these are going to be able to share their religion. And, you know, you're just inherently

Christian nation. So you get to be quiet. Um, it, yeah, it, it, it could pretend we could have potentially staved off a lot of issue, but then again, uh, just like the, the

Kings, um, of the European nations, uh, they had those things in writing and ignored it and didn't care.

And they faced their own sort of judgment. Well, and this is just me thinking, thinking things through on the fly, uh, since you brought it up, but I mean, going back to across the pond,

I mean, I w I would see that will be the consequences of having two Kings.

Um, yeah, in our documentation, Jesus is King, but you know, I'm also King, I'm the

King of this country. And so they're going to be ruling and they're going to desire that rule and power, uh, above submission to Christ.

And, and that was probably where a lot the rub came from. Um, and a lot of people see here in America where they don't think that that could have worked.

What like, we're not under a theocracy, you know, um, we're, we're God's, God's laws and the church rules

America, but, but I think it could have worked. Um, not, not theocracy, you know, not those labels, but you in our documentation, in our founding,

Jesus, Jesus is King over the universe. Jesus is King over the globe. Jesus is

King over our country. And we don't have a King, but we have this, you know, constitutional, uh,

Republic that, that we have now. And, and you private citizen, work out your own theology.

We're not going to tell you, you know, what eschatology to believe or whatever, but we submit to Jesus in this country.

You work out your eschatology, you work out your infant or believers, Baptist, whatever you want to do, but we submit to Jesus and, you know, anything other than that, no, but you work out the other stuff.

Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. Uh, it's actually one of the, the, uh, distinctives of the

Reformed Presbyterian Church. Uh, the Reformed Presbyterian Church, uh, believes in, in what's called the mediatorial kingship of Christ.

Uh, basically what that means is if you go to Romans 13 or in, uh, man, it's getting late somewhere in Peter, he talks about, um, basically the same thing.

It says that, that the, the government, the basically the crown, the throne, the, whatever your civil government is, has been given the sword by God in order to be an instrument for good.

Um, in other words, Christ having ultimate authority and kingship from heaven is ruling the earth mediatorially through these earthly governments.

And so what each and every, uh, magistrate King County commissioner, president, vice president, whatever, if you hold an office in the land, you're responsible primarily first and foremost to uphold the, the, uh, the rule, reign and kingship of Christ.

And if you're, you're a part of a government that is not doing so, then it is your responsibility to work to rectify that.

Say, we are, you know, call the rest of the people on your board to repentance, call the nation that you're leading to repentance, call the, the

Congress that you're a part of to repentance, the school board that you're a part of call them to repentance.

So that way, Christ kingship is made a reality in, in all of life.

Let's mosey on. Um, I did want to make some more comments, but I think we should move on.

Um, going, going to verse eight, right before we move on. Um, I noticed something in verse where it says, uh,

I will surely give you the nation, the nations as thine inheritance. And the first place that my mind went to was the, um, um, the temptation in the wilderness was

Satan where, where Satan promises him, you worship me and I'll give you, you know, all these nations.

Um, but the, the greater promise came from the father.

Right. Right. Um, I've, I've heard this put a couple of different ways.

This, this is my take on it. Um, the, the nations were absolutely under the sway and power of, of Satan in the sense that, uh, they had been stolen through the fall.

Um, now obviously the whole world is God's and he has ultimate control over everything.

Uh, but Satan, uh, being that sort of, uh, ruler for a time, you know, a prince, so to speak, um, he actually did have some authority to give away leadership and rulership of the nations, um, in the world, but he would have then said

Jesus would have then set himself up as enemy of God, the father in heaven. So Jesus's task before he came to the earth, you know, worked out among the

Godhead was that he would come to redeem what was lost. So the nations were to be

Christ. So what Satan was tempting him to do was to forego the payment of sins, uh, the undoing of, you know,

Satan's big power grab, which is sin. The bondage of sin, uh, forego the undoing of that and receiving his blessing, his reward without doing the work of going to the cross.

Um, so it wasn't some little, you know, bow down and worship me. And he's like,

Oh, well, who would do that? Uh, there was real, there was, there was more at stake there.

There was no, why would you being basically what Satan was saying, what

Satan was saying was you being God, why should you have to die? Why should you have to do this?

Why should you have to do that? Just come on over here, you know, pay me some homage and I'll let you have what's rightfully yours.

Yeah. Say, Oh man, that no, from my perspective, right. Hey, you know, there's an easy way.

It's not any way. It's just going to give it to you from God's perspective. He saw how incredibly wicked that was and said, no, if I do that, no one on the face of the planet will have forgiveness of sins because without the shedding of blood, there's no redemption.

So, uh, Jesus knowing the wickedness of Satan, then to get lost and came and died in our place anyway, because this promise was there.

What, what good would be having all those nations? If they, like you said, they can't be saved.

There was no, there was no price paid for those nations for those people.

What good would be having those nations if they're all going to be destroyed because of their sin? Well, and that, that's the thing it's, it's sin is always enticing, but yet wicked and dissolves in the hand.

Um, if, if Jesus were to take that, um, he would be ruler over a world where every single person who passed through it died and ended up in the flames of hell.

Yeah. Um, and if he were uncaring and unloving and John three 16 did not exist, you know, maybe, but that's not who

God is. God is not one who doesn't care for his creation. He's one who loved the world, the cosmos, his creation so much that he gave his son that whoever, uh, believes won't perish, but we'll have eternal life.

Uh, that is what Satan was trying to get Christ to forego was the salvation of the world.

The promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, uh, the promise not to destroy the world through flood, the promise to Adam, all the covenants, he was just trying to get him to throw all that away.

And Jesus said his face like Flint toward Jerusalem and Jesus faced the cross head on and, and took it and bore it because of the father, because of the glory of the father, because of love for the father, because of his obedience and submission to the father.

And that goes back to what we were talking about earlier, you know, sin is temptation.

The easy way out. Um, the, the fact that who God made us to be, um, and, and where he, um, where he made us to be may, may not be appealing as in worldly standards.

And there may be suffering involved, but Jesus saw beyond the suffering into the, the, the glories of God and, and the, the promises of God and, and, and the benefits of it.

Right. That's one of the reasons why the early church had such a, a trouble.

No. What do we do with people who have no face persecution and then taken the easy way out and given in and now they want to come back to the church.

No. One of those who would face with the same temptation as Jesus, uh, would have given in, uh, those who, you know, okay, let me, you're going to kill me.

Yeah. I'll throw some incense on the altar. No, I'll, I'll say, uh, Caesar is Lord. No, whatever will keep me alive.

No, what do we do with those people? Um, they saw the, the, the fullness of what

Christ had done and, uh, you know, had, had questions, but, but I do like, um, and I don't know if you've heard any of Douglas Wilson's conversations on this topic, but I do appreciate his perspective and his thoughts on this, where, you know, you have to deal with the, uh, the situation with, with and she, she told the soldiers a lot to protect, um,

God's God's men, the spies. Um, and so, you know, the persecution or, um, suffering is not something that we, we have to go searching for looking for.

Um, and in some circumstances, you know, we can, we can flee, we can prep, we can hide, you know, we, we don't have to, um, self -martyr ourself.

Um, if that's a good way to put it. So that, I mean, I didn't want people to think that that's what we were, we were preaching that we're, um, just supposed to set our course, the course of our life for, for martyrdom.

Um, that, you know, that's not necessarily where God wants you to head.

Yeah. It'll find you if you're supposed to go that way. Yeah. Yeah. No need to self -flagellate.

Right. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Let's go to verse nine. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron.

Thou shalt shatter them like earthenware. Now, therefore, O Kings, show discernment, take warning,

O judges of the earth. Worship the Lord with reverence and rejoice with trembling.

Do homage to the son, lest he become angry and you perish in the way for his wrath may soon be kindled.

How blessed are all who take refuge in him. Take us through those verses.

All right. So you get to the end after all that, where you see the people raging and plotting and doing their own thing.

Uh, God laughing and then coming at them with a serious warning of judgment, showing his whole hand that here is my

King that I've set up. You need to listen to him. Um, showing that they will be destroyed completely and utterly.

Um, he says, Hey, listen up. You've got something to do. Serve the

Lord with fear and rejoice with trembling. Now, what were they doing?

They weren't serving him with fear and they weren't rejoicing in him with trembling. They're saying, no, get away from us.

We don't want you. You have no rule here. You have no power here. We're going to do things our own way.

We wish you would just go on and die. So the exact opposite of that is is serve the

Lord with fear and rejoice with trembling. It's repentance. What is, that's not just for Kings and rulers and county commissioners and their city council members and mayors and stuff.

That's for each and every one of us, each and every one of us. What are you doing when you scheme to be

Lord of your life? When you say, I have the right to determine what is right and wrong, what's good and evil.

I have the right to determine how things should go and how things should proceed in my life. Um, you know, how the, how the world should act around me.

That's why, why Satanism is so heinous. They, they believe that you can actually, uh, or should, um, change and morph reality to whatever it is that you want to occur, whatever you want to manifest.

Um, you know, if you see somebody that's going to harm you, take care of it before it gets to you. Um, it is that, uh, self rule that autonomy, um, that he's saying, put those things away.

And then it says, uh, pay homage in, was that the NASB that you're using?

Yeah. Uh, the, the King James and the new King James. Um, I don't know if it's any better of a translation, but I just like it more.

It says to kiss the sun. Yeah. Lest he be angry.

Uh, kiss the sun has the idea of kissing one who is a

King, no bowing down. Here's my ring. Kiss the ring. You're paying proper respect and paying homage to the sun.

It's an act of humility. You are repenting, humbling yourself before God. He doesn't want you to fall into this.

So that's why I say, Hey, listen up, be wise, repent, uh, turn from your sins, pay homage to the sun, kiss the sun, worship him, or he will be angry with you because you are actively rebelling against him and you'll be perishing away.

And it says when his wrath is kindled, but a little, he doesn't even have to get fully angry with us to take us out.

Yeah. Just get angry a little bit. And then it said, then it ends just wonderful with hope.

Blessed are all those who put their trust in him. So what is it that we take away from Psalm two?

When we see the world around us going in every different direction, when we see things moving in ways that we think that they shouldn't, we shouldn't fear them because those actions are doomed.

Those people have been commanded to repent, believe, and obey the sun.

And in the final analysis, those who are wicked and rebel will be dealt with.

And those who put their trust in, in, uh, God and in his anointed in Christ will be blessed, uh, blessed with, as we know from the rest of the scriptures, no eternal life with, uh, joy and in heaven with, uh, goodness and life of forever.

So basically it doesn't matter what happens in this world. We can have because we know the trajectory of the way things are going.

Um, and as post -millennialist, we believe that that reality is taking place now and not only at the consummation because each of each of the other, uh, major eschatological positions believe in this, but most of them believe it's either going to take place after a rapture and a tribulation during a millennial kingdom or at the consummation.

The distinction of, of a post -millennial hope is that he is, he has asked for the nations.

He's told us to disciple the nations and that those nations are being brought to him and being brought under the subjection of Christ.

Um, the last enemy being death and then he returns. Uh, so that's how it would mix in with that eschatology discussion.

Right. And, you know, I look at that last, um, that last phrase, how blessed, how blessed are those who, who take refuge in him and, um, talking about the, the other views.

A lot of times they don't, they make distinctions that they don't mix the two worlds.

You know, it's, uh, the evangelistic side of things versus, um, the, the rest of life.

And, but, but if you look at it, how blessed are, are all who take refuge in him?

Yes, that is, that is the gospel. Um, we, we find refuge in Jesus when we believe the gospel, when we find our salvation, um, our soul salvation in him, our eternal life in heaven in him.

But, you know, when you talk about wanting to look at Psalm two and I looked at a few of these verses, um, it recalled to mind, um, some verses in Hebrews that I, I probably was going to bring up anyway, even if we looked at Daniel chapter 11, but Daniel chapter 12, um, versus, versus starting in verse 26.

Um, and his voice shook the earth in, but now he has promised saying yet once more,

I will shake not the, not only the earth, but also the heaven. And this expression yet once more denotes the removing of things, which can be shaken as of created things in order that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Therefore, since we receive a kingdom, which cannot be shaken, let us show gratitude by which we may offer to God an acceptable service with reverence and awe.

There's the admonition again, reverence and awe for our God, who is a consuming fire.

So yes, taking refuge in Jesus is, is that future hope? Yes. But taking refuge in Jesus will, we will find ourselves remaining because we are in his kingdom.

God is, God is shaking this earth and the heavens so that those things that can be shaken will be, and they will be removed.

But that which can't be shaken, the kingdom of Jesus, it will remain through all this shaking and through all this removing and cleaning of the threshing floor, his kingdom will remain.

If we find our refuge in Jesus Christ, we will be remaining. We, we are, we are in the walls of his kingdom and his kingdom will be the only one that's, that's remaining.

And his walls are going to expand until it covers all the nations. And so Dan and I would love nothing more than for you to get out of our time together that Jesus from the foundations of the world was with God and was

God and became flesh as John 1 tells us.

And he came outside of this world, into this world to rescue us, to, to bring us to himself, to draw us into his kingdom.

He, he redeemed us as Isaiah 42 says, he redeemed us. He bought us with the price so that we could be purchased out of sin.

We're taught in scripture that we are dead in our trespasses and sin. No one can do good. No, not one.

No one seeks after God. No one searches after God. We are hopeless and helpless because of our sin.

And it's only through Jesus Christ, his sinless life, his death on the cross, his burial and his resurrection, his ascension, his, his life, his payment is the only way to the father.

Jesus says, I'm the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the father except through me.

There's only one way to the father. There's only one way into his kingdom. And that's through him, through us repenting of our sins, repenting of being like these people in Psalm 2, where they, we, we were these people.

We wanted to be autonomous. We wanted to be antinomian. We wanted to break the chains of God telling us what to do, living according to, to his ways, being obedient to him and being submissive, submissive to him.

Every single one of us, there's no exception. Every single human being wants to go their own way.

We've got to repent of our unbelief, believing that God's way is the, is the only right way, repenting of our sin.

Transgressing against the law. There, there's only one way. And we want you to be found unshakable because you were found in Christ.

We, we don't desire that you, after all this shaking, are found lacking and malting and not in Christ and, and removed from this earth.

And in the final judgment thrown into the lake of fire with Satan and all the demons and eventually death, we want you to have life.

We want our brothers and sisters, our parents, our family, our community.

We want to see life from Jesus Christ fill our families and fill our community.

So if you, if you do not know him as your Lord and savior, as a savior, as if you're not born again, if God has not saved you, we would plead with you that you would repent of your sins and put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ tonight.

Thank you for watching. If you have any questions, please feel free to send us a question.

If you'd like for us to pray for you, we'd love to be able to do that. And with that,

Dan, would you mind to close us in prayer? Sure. All right. Dear heavenly father, thank you for today.

Thank you for all of the goodness that you have given to us. Thank you for our church families and for your rule and reign over this earth.

Pray that things would go as you have planned them and that you would draw people to yourself using us to do that.