Keeping It Together When the Nation is Falling Apart

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In Matthew 16 Jesus chastised the Pharisees who could interpret the appearance of the sky but failed to interpret the signs of the time in which they lived.

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Who are the Pharisees of our day? This strong hold of sort of whiteness and white identity and pristineness is really part of what keeps us from making progress.

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It doesn't really hurt. Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men.

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Going to all the world to make disciples, not going to the world to make buddies, not to make brosives, don't go in the world to make homies, disciples.

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When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.

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He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities, all things were created through him and for him.

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Here, here, amen. Colossians 1 15 through 20. It's a good one. It's one of my faves.

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It's a great one. Who are we kidding? It's great. It's the Word of God. It's all great, but then there's nuggets like that that you just feast on.

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Yeah. We'll talk about why it's important today. Welcome back everyone to another episode of Apology Air Radio.

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Luke the Bear hosting today. Pastor Jeff is away with his family for the week, spending some time with them, getting a little breather.

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Who are you and what have you done with Zach? No, investigation pending on who stole my facial hairs.

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But yeah, you should have seen the look on my kids' faces. Did you terrify them? Oh, my baby. Like my youngest.

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I woke him up in the morning. You know, I went to get him from his little crib and he just looked up at me in amazement and horror.

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He's like, who is this guy? Yeah. So it's okay, little guy. Don't be scared. So yeah,

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I'm excited for today's show. We'll get, we'll, there's a lot going on right now.

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A lot of craziness. We haven't had a chance to talk about the presidential debate yet, which we're going to touch on briefly.

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That was fun. Yeah. I don't know if I can describe it as fun, but there are some funny moments.

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It was definitely entertaining. Yeah. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at some points.

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Actually, that is the main point. Um, as you'll see soon enough. So why don't you bring us in?

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Yeah. So, I mean, there's, there's a lot going on. So obviously we just had the presidential debate, uh,

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Trump and Biden head to head. And it was about what you would expect clown show.

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Yeah. Uh, part of the course for, uh, living in clown world there with, of course, some zingers and some entertaining moments in there where I'm sure that we could play one of your personal favorites right now.

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Is that, is that what this one? Yeah. Just to get a vibe for how things went. Um, hold on.

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Sorry. I wasn't ready. Keep talking. So that little arrow in the top or the bottom right -hand corner of the box there, that blows up the screen.

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Okay. Now we're good. All right. It's better than when he left office and I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the, the, the, the, the total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more border patrol and more asylum officers.

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President Trump. I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows what he said either. Look, people coming across the border illegally.

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So, I mean, that, that gives you an idea right there of, of how things went. And really the,

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I think the mental cognitive state of the man that occupies the Oval Office right now. That, I mean, unless you've been sleeping under a rock for the past three and a half years you've seen,

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I mean, there have been plenty of clips circulating online here. And really a lot of concern has been pressed upon the minds of the

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American people in particular, because it's hard to feel safe in your nation when the leader of your nation has to be escorted off the stage and, and more often than not forgets which way is the exit point and the entry point to the debate stage.

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Yeah. It doesn't even know where he's at half the time. Yeah. It doesn't know what year it is, forgets names, mistaken identities, you know, talking about people that have passed away, makes up words, trails off in sentences like you just saw.

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And so I think, you know, there's been concern about this, uh, given, you know, where we are, because on one side, you know, you have

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Trump, he's a mess. Obviously you have Biden on the other side who, um,

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I mean, I think incompetent to do the job is an understatement at this point. He's yeah.

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He's barely surviving. I think that's, that's kind. And really after this whole debacle, the media was ablaze with the democratic party calling for him to step down.

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It was like, it was synchronized messaging all the way across the board.

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Um, you know, people were talking about who is going to take his place at the democratic national convention, like who's going to be announced to take his place.

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And president Biden has said that he's not going anywhere. He did, which he probably didn't even write that because he probably doesn't even hunt.

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He's a keyboard right now. He was tweeting during the debate. I don't know if you saw that, but it takes a lot of skill for someone, uh, with that level of verbal mastery, um, command of the

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English language to be able to tweet simultaneously while debating. So I guess, I guess you can think whoever, whatever, 20 something intern, uh, runs his

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Twitter account. Um, I mean, but really this is kind of a picture of where we are.

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So it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence, um, of where we've been. Obviously there's a lot of problems that we see in our nation today.

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You know, the unchecked illegal immigration, uh, you know, foreign wars, encroachment on our, pretty much our entire way of life.

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If you're a, if you love God, if you love your nation, if you love your people and don't want to see it completely given over to a foreign power.

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There's a lot of fears and concerns, um, you know, going through people's minds right now. But maybe we could play that next clip too, to get an idea of what we're talking about.

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Yeah. I was just going to say, um, for just a disclaimer, because we,

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I'm not even watching the chat right now, but there's probably somebody in here, the people either are mad at us because we're not supporting

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Trump or they're mad at us because we're trashing Trump. This is not, uh, an endorsement for any candidate.

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This is just talking frankly about the debate. Uh, and if you listen to us, you know that at this point,

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Biden's clearly a mess. Like you said, um, I mean, yeah, there's not even much more

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I need to say about that. Uh, and you know, Trump, we have a lot of issues with Trump, a lot, especially what we're going to talk about today.

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Um, you know, but he is very entertaining. Oh, I, yes. He's, he's definitely a showman. I, that was my favorite part of the debate.

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And I was like dying laughing when I heard that part, because he said what everyone else is thinking, which is one reason if I, if I, if there's something

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I like about Trump is that he's usually good about saying what everyone's thinking, just not saying out loud. Um, right.

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But yeah, it was, it's either way. It's, it's a hot mess. Um, and, uh, yeah.

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So let's go right into the next clip. Gabe, if you want to play this. Well, other networks lie to you about what's happening now.

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Info Wars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Now, I mean, obviously there's some comedic license taken there to highlight the discrepancy, but I think we all see the problem, um, going on and have for a long time.

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And I think we should just feel confident to say that it's unfortunate that this man has been paraded around.

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Um, and that someone that really no one loves him enough to step in. But at the same time,

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I think his pride as well, um, won't, he won't allow himself to drop out.

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And so you have, it's kind of a bizarre and strange turn of events. Like I know David Bonson posted something on his page today, like this, like it's the first time in his life, like viewing things in the political realm as the

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Democrats seem to be, uh, begging for Biden to step in it even further.

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So that way they have a greater justification to remove him and replace him with something. And then on the other side, you have the

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Republicans who are saying, um, no, like we hope that he stays in because it'll be the easiest political victory in history.

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For Trump, if, if, if these are the two choices in front of us, but that was until also, uh, the

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Republican platform, or I guess I should say the GOP, the good old party dropped their recent, uh, policy list of things that they're emphasizing at their platform and conspicuously missing from those things that upset quite a few people on the internet, uh, were marriage and a solid statement on the issue of life and abortion.

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Yeah. Before we get into that real quick, I was just going to say one more thing about the debate, just if you watched it,

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I mean, it was just, it was just, you know, like they're literally just trying to one -up one another.

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I mean, it's even talking, started talking about golf scores and handicaps and I was like, goodness gracious. Um, but so many lies, so many lies, just blatant as if it's truth, you know?

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And I mean, I don't know if I heard one true thing come out of Biden's mouth. Um, Trump, I don't know.

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I, I really don't, he probably was making things up too. Um, but I know some of the stuff that Biden said was just flat out.

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Like the, the, especially when it came to the border stuff. Like, look, we, we, we have the border here in Arizona.

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I have men in my church that work in that department. And some of the things that Biden was saying were just blatantly false.

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And, you know, and, and I even saw the next day Biden sent out an email or something saying every single thing that Trump said was a lie and I'm like,

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Oh my gosh, this is like, I'm going, are people really this stupid? And sadly, I think the answer is yes.

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I think at least some people, yeah, some people, not everyone. Um, so yeah. So the, you know, before we get into the, the

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GOP debacle, like there's a lot of people kind of freaking out right now. And this is kind of the theme we're going to talk about today is just, you know, those are right now are probably the two best options we have is this guy who, which, by the way, if you didn't see one of Doug Wilson's podcasts this week, this week, or maybe, so you got to, you know, you got an old geriatric dude who doesn't even know where he's at half the time, possibly run the country, or you got a loud mouth bumbling idiot who did some great things.

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I'll give him that. He exceeded my expectations and did some great things. There was some major issues and flaws with him, but, um, you know, the, what's scary,

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I think, and maybe scary is not the right word concerning. It's just the, how soft he's getting on some of the, uh, moral essentials.

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And so that brings us right into this conversation. You want me to play this clip right here or you want to talk about it first?

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Yeah, let's go ahead and jump right in. So this is, you know, just after the GOP finalized their new platform.

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Oh, Gabe, can you, uh, Oh, that's my fault.

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Why is it muted? Sorry. My bad. Try that again. The question of the abortion pill.

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What so many of us have said is that, look, um, we, we certainly don't, the Supreme court made a decision saying, uh, that the

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American people should have access to that medication. Donald Trump has supported that opinion. I support that opinion.

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I think it's important to say that we, we actually have to have an important conversation in this country about what our abortion policy should be.

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Donald Trump is the pragmatic leader here. He's saying most abortion policy is going to be decided by the

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States. Uh, we want to make it easier and more affordable for young women and parents to have families to begin with.

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We want to lower housing costs, eliminate the surprise medical bills that so many families see after they have a baby.

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That's the Trump and Republican approach to this issue. Meanwhile, Joe Biden wants taxpayer funded abortion up to the moment of birth.

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It's so crazy to me how the Democrats frame this as Republicans. Let me finish

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Kristen. D D D Democrat, they frame Democrats as being reasonable and pragmatic when in reality,

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Republicans are the one trying to find some common ground. As you know, abortions, very few abortions take place later in pregnancy and almost always because there is a medical emergency.

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I know Trump is trying to distance himself from project 2025, but we have to point out that a number of people who are involved with it are former

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Trump officials, Ben Carson, Peter Navarro, Ross Vought, and others.

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But just to be clear, you support MIFA -Pristone being accessible. Yes, Kristen, I do.

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But again, on the project 2025 issue, what the media and the Democrats are trying to do is attach its most unpopular elements to the

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Trump administration. It's a 900 page document. I guarantee there are things that Trump likes and dislikes about that 900 page document, but he is the person who will determine the agenda of the next administration.

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All he said very explicitly is, I am in charge of the next administration because I'm the person running for president.

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It's just important to make that clarification. So maybe help to to read the platform that they did pass.

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It's brief beer, but it says we proudly stand for families and life. We believe that the 14th

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Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied life or liberty without due process and that the states are therefore free to pass laws protecting those rights.

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Which is really interesting. Because the reason that the 14th Amendment exists federally, uh, was because a certain group of people were being dehumanized and needed to have protection or the law, equal protection.

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So it's ironic that in distancing themselves from a federal abortion ban, um, the

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GOP is saying, no, let the states handle it. Well, the problem with that is that when left to the ballot, our population is a wicked population that wants the murder of children on demand.

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And so surrendering it over, uh, is immoral. It's wrong.

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And this is really the downfall and the, I mean, I should say the fallout of Roe being overturned as well.

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Um, but continuing on here after 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the states and to a vote of the people.

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We will oppose late term abortion while supporting mothers and policies that advance prenatal care, access to birth control and IVF treatments.

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So just like Vance said in the clip, um, I don't think he would put it this way, but this is what they're doing.

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They're trying to moderate to the center in order to gain the appeal of those who would not normally favor the

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Trump, uh, platform. Um, they're trying to tailor the platform to the candidate is what they're trying to do right now in order to reach people in the middle and get votes.

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So it's not about standing on the protection of life. The anchor was actually correct.

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The majority of abortions are not late term. They take place with the abortion bill, which that administration is for obtaining.

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Okay. So again, there's so many problems here with it, but the idea is that if we can placate to the middle, we can get these votes and we can win the election.

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So the principle becomes placed on the altar of what will get us the victory.

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Yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And it's, it's, was apparent in the last election in the midterms that, uh, abortion was the hot topic that for whatever reason, it seemed like the

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Republicans were not ready for, it seemed like it caught them off guard. They didn't have an answer to that's also true.

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Um, you know, and so I know there's, they've, the Republicans, the GOP feels that they lost a lot of these seats in all these elections because of that issue and they didn't have, they just weren't prepared for it.

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Like distancing themselves from it now. Exactly. I mean, that's been so obvious this year within abortion now and red state reform, we're going to all these states trying to get these equal protection bills.

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And I, we've talked about this, but time and time again, the majority of our legislators that we've been working with that are faithful men that love

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God and want to do the right thing. They've, they folded and, and a lot of it's been because the

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Republican party has been like, we can't do this this year. We have to win this election. Right.

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Um, and that's exactly what this is. It's, it's capitulating, um, to, to try to win this election and it's just pragmatism and no one is willing to stand up and say, no, we're going to do the right thing because it's the right thing, um, not, not, we're going to do this because we want to make sure we win.

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Yeah. And it's been blatantly obvious. Well, the unfortunate thing about that too, is it, it, it picks a fight amongst conservative voters because there's good men on both sides that are arguing for both positions.

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Exactly. No, I'm not willing to compromise and reward this betrayal with my vote. Get it completely on the other side.

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Then it's like, well, listen, someone's going to be in office. I don't want 30 million illegal immigrants in my country.

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Um, making it unrecognizable so that we can't pass any kind of change at the state and local level.

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We won't have a nation if we don't win this election. I get both sides and I'm sympathetic to both sides, honestly.

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Um, so the, the, the problem is it's like, okay. Since there hasn't been accountability in wrangling in our side also, like political accountability, like Donald Trump knows that he's not going to get pushback really.

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Oh, right. From the pro -life side. He could, I, I, I certainly hope so.

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Um, I, I pray to God so, um, but it was a tactical decision on his point.

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Um, to say, I don't care. I have unfeigned support now, basically for the last eight years.

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Um, I can do what I want really. That's really where we're at right now. And the unfortunate thing about that is if we don't hold him accountable, then he will continue to drift and we will continue to see what we don't quite see yet, and that is when we don't hold our leaders accountable to the word of God.

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Yep. Um, they will inevitably drift and affect these issues that we care deeply about.

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We've already seen it in our own state, uh, with our own abortion ban, you know, Trump and his influence directly affected that here, that policy.

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So really, I mean, there's no telling where things could end up at this point.

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I'm sympathetic to both sides. I see the points on both sides. Um, it's hard to say though.

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I mean, we can't, we can't defeat our enemies by becoming them. Yeah. Right. It's not, if you can't beat them, join them.

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So we're just going to moderate to the center here in hopes that we win. Um, you know, there, there has to be a principle, but I mean, even amidst this discussion,

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Luke, like the reaction to this whole thing, like, okay, we're even further divided now, really.

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So like, what's next? Are we just like, are we screwed? Like, and if so, I'm feeling a little fearful.

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I'm feeling a little fearful for my family, my people. Um, a little bit of panic sets in, you know, uh, how vulnerable is our nation going to be?

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Is it going to look unrecognizable? Um, all of these things start to cloud our judgment, creep in that worry, that anxiety sets in.

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And then even that pessimism, um, which I want to hear you speak to. Yeah. Well, I was gonna say just quickly to your point about Trump not feeling any pushback,

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I mean, the pro -life industry for 50 years has been playing the pragmatic game and so the seeds have been sown by them really.

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So at this point, they're just going to say, well, if we don't get Trump elected, we have no chance of doing anything.

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So they're willing to say, well, we'll give in here and sacrifice the, you know, these lives here in order to preserve more here.

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Uh, and that's just awful. And, you know, we've gotten where we are again, because no one's been willing to stand up and do the right thing and keep our legislators accountable.

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Like you said. So it's going to be interesting the next, uh, we'll see. We're already in July. So the next four months or so, five months, um, it's going to be really interesting to see, uh, how things go.

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And I mean, as far as like, I mean, Trump even said this in the debate. And I see some of this conversation here in the, in the chat thread, you know, he mentioned, uh, the

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Dobbs decision and, um, you know, the Supreme court sent it back to the

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States and he applauded that. And it's like, on one hand it's like, okay, yeah, that's how our nation was set up as a, as a constitutional

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Republic that, you know, these things are handled in the States, but at the same time, the

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Supreme court could have, you know, grown a pair of testicles and done the right thing and said, no, like this is, you know, when we, when we say they had an obligation.

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Yeah. When we, when we, the constitution, you know, we're talking about the right to pursuit of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

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I mean, like, um, life right there. Like they could have said, no, it starts at conception here.

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They could have done that federally. And again, they don't make laws. Maybe you're clear about that, but they could have set a precedent that said, no, it's, it's life of conception across the board.

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Um, and they took the, although the pilots way out, although not, although technically correct in their thing, they did, they took the coward's way out on that ruling.

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And so now everyone's applauding that it's gone and say it's blah, blah, blah. But now what we have is what we're fighting here in Arizona.

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We're a bunch of these conservative States is these ballot initiatives where they're trying to make abortion up to birth legal, um, by amending their constitutions, you know?

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And so again, if the, if the, if SCOTUS would have done the right thing, um, I would have shut a lot of that down,

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I think to begin with, but. And what is the 14th amendment all about? Really? It says no state shall deprive to any person within its jurisdiction, the equal protection of the laws.

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Yeah. So if, if the 14th amendment says that, and then you turn around and say, let the States decide who lives and who dies.

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Yeah. It's a contradictory message. Exactly. Exactly. Right. You're exactly right. So, yeah.

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So, I mean, that, that brings us to the kind of the theme we were going through going, trying to accomplish with all this, if I could talk today, um,

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I mean, I've seen, I've seen faithful men that I know that love

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Jesus, great Christian men, just let go, go full

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Eeyore, you know, woe is me. Oh bother. You know, like just tail between the legs, like saying things like every politician is corrupt, um, you know, just ready to like, just throw in the towel, um, which for the record, there may be a lot of,

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I'm not going to argue that a lot of the politicians aren't corrupt, but I know plenty that, uh, that are not corrupt, excuse me.

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And, and so I, you know, I have a problem when you start whitewashing every politician, you know, but the point being is like, and I saw one of Andrew's Sandlin's posts the other day,

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I think it was yesterday. Tried to get him on today, but he couldn't do it. Um, he had this whole post about pessimism and he's like, you know, people are being very pessimistic around and there's like, he's like, that's not in scripture.

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There's no pessimistic verses in scripture. And, and I was like, it just fires me up, um, to see, see men, like what we need is men, faithful men saying, uh,

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I'm not going to back down. I'm going to do the right thing. I'm going to, I'm going to stand up for what's right.

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Um, you know, one of my favorite stories I've preached about a lot for end abortion now events is

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David and Goliath, right. And it's a perfect, David's a perfect picture of, of where we are now, right?

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We got those big, ugly, scary culture coming at us and threatening us and, you know, cursing our

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God. And David's like, who are you on circumcised Philistine to come against the army of the

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Lord, living God. Like that should be our mentality is like, I don't care. I don't care who Joe Biden thinks he is.

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I don't care who any of these liberals think they are. Like, who are you on circumcised culture to come against the army of the living

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God, that should be our mentality. Um, and it's not in, in like the cowards are being revealed very quickly.

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Um, and so that's kind of the theme and, and, um, I'll say one more thing and then

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I'll turn it back over to, so not, not panic, not panic, not pessimism. Courage, courage.

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Yeah, exactly. And, you know, I chose, uh, Colossians one on purpose because the whole point is like,

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God is sovereign, right? Over all of this. None of these leaders have any authority unless God has given it to them.

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And so for us to start throwing our hands up in the air, which Proverbs 24, 10 is one of my favorite verses.

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If you faint in the day of adversity, your strength is small. Seen a lot of that right now in the church, men are throwing their hands up in the air, showing that their strength is small and.

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They're fainting in the day of adversity. Um, but God's sovereign over all of this. Biden is in power because God chose for him to be in power.

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Obviously it's judgment on our nation. If Trump wins and he's in power, that's God's sovereign over that.

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And, and so we need to trust that. Right. And I think we get too, uh, narrow focused on what's directly in front of us.

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We don't look at the big picture. Uh, you know, I've been studying, um, I don't know if you've read, uh,

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CR Wiley's, um, household in the battle for the cosmos, but like the big picture is like, that's why

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I chose that verse. Right. Christ came to reconcile all things to himself. That's our job as a church, like it starts in the garden where Adam's working.

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God says, take dominion. That's where it starts. And we're not even willing to take dominion over our own households, let alone the culture.

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Um, and so if we think big picture, like, and stop getting so narrow minded and focused on what's directly in front of us, like, this is all part of a bigger plan, a bigger picture and it's

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Christ come to reconcile all things to himself. Um, one thing I learned from Andrew Sandlin, I missed my whole life growing up in the church.

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Um, I forget the reference. I think it's first John. I think, um, he says

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Christ came to vanquish the works of Satan. Yeah. First John. And we get, we get so like,

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Oh, Christ came to save me. That's part of it. That's, but that's part of vanquishing the works of Satan's of Satan is saving his people because we are the hands and feet that will accomplish that.

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The big picture is he came to defeat Satan and we need to get out of our Christian ghettos and get in, open our eyes up and be like, this is just a, this is just a part of the bigger picture of the bigger battle.

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Our nation isn't the end all be all. And if God destroys our nation, so be it, you know, the next few years, the next generation, maybe two generations may be really hard and really difficult and suck for our kids and grandkids.

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But we know that God is faithful. We know it's part of his plan to reconcile all things to himself.

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And we need to trust him in that. And we need to prepare our kids and train our kids to be a part of that. And, um, you know, if our nation doesn't exist, when

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Christ returns, who cares? So what? What's important is that Christ's kingdom is growing and expanding, and it will do so until all enemies are placed under his feet,

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Zachary, well, along those same lines, you know, God is shaking things right now.

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I don't think anyone could deny that. I mean, Hebrews 12, 26, at that time, his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised yet once more,

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I will shake not only the earth, but also the heavens. This phrase yet once more indicates the removal of things that are shaken.

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That is things that have been made in order that the things that cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken and let us offer to God acceptable worship with reverence and awe for our

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God is a consuming fire. So our nations are getting shaken up right now. And I think really what you're getting at here is not just the sovereignty of God, which is really along the lines of what

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I wanted to talk about, and that is the providence of God. Yeah. Understanding and having a providential view of history, like the same one our founding fathers had.

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If you don't understand this, um, this idea that God is intimately concerned and connected with the affairs of mankind and involved at the national level, right?

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Everything Luke was saying is dead on in terms of, you know, if we want revival in the white house, we need to start in our prayer closets.

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Yeah, exactly. Like it, you can do something right now. And that's go to the secret place of prayer and cry out to the

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Lord almighty for mercy upon our nation and to rule your household and your family. Well, like that would be a great place to start, but I mean, what view of providence did the founders have?

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We talked about that with, uh, Lautenschlager when he gave us this like incredible history lesson on the history of the

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American revolution here. I mean, but really the founders had a providential view of history.

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What does the declaration of independence say right at the end? And for the support of this declaration with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence.

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We mutually pledged to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. It's important to know how that word was defined during the time that that was written.

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Webster's dictionary defines it saying, in theology, providence is the care and superintendence, which

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God exercises over his creatures. He that acknowledges a creation and denies a providence involves himself in a palpable contradiction for the same power, which caused a thing to exist as necessary to continue its existence, a belief in divine providence is a source of great consolation to good men.

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Divine providence is often understood as God himself. So when the founders wrote that, when they penned our declaration of independence, they had a particular view of history.

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It wasn't a view of all things that says God is at war with the material world, like a

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Gnostic view. It wasn't a view of history that was materialist in nature that said there is no God, just the material universe.

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It wasn't a view of history that was pantheistic that said, well,

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God is everything and everything is God. Okay. It wasn't any of these pagan views of history.

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It was a view in which they saw the biblical view of the

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King, the sovereign, the almighty as transcendent and imminent, right? God is not his creation.

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He exists over it, ruling over it, but he is intimately involved with it. This is not the deist

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God that winds up the universe like a watch and then steps away and allows it to run under its own power.

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Okay. This is the God who carries all things along to their intended destination and conclusion.

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That's what Hebrews 1 .3 tells us about Jesus. He created all things.

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By him, all things exist. You just read Colossians 1, right? All things hold together in him, consist in him, find their coherence in him.

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And he makes sure that history gets where it's going and that it's moving towards the predetermined ends

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God has decreed. So all of this, God's sovereignty, you've used that word. I'm using providence, which really is just purposeful sovereignty.

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Okay. So God's sovereignty is his right and his power to do as he pleases with his creation.

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Yeah. Okay. That's his sovereignty. God has the right to do what he wants. He's the author. He has authority. Providence is when he exercises that power and that authority with wisdom purposefully.

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So providence is, I mean, it really comes from a word that means to see or to look forward to, we kind of have an idiom like that in our

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English language. It says, Hey Luke, see to that for me. Hmm. Right. You see to it. So what is providence, but God seeing to it in terms of history, in terms of the things that he's made, see to that.

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And God is seeing to it. Like a good father, he foresees the needs of his world.

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This is true in a very common sense, general creation, right? He sends rain on the just and the unjust. He takes care of the animal world, the physical world.

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He presides over the choices of men, even the sinful ones and overturns all of them for his glory so that they work out according to his plan.

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All that's true. Um, but he makes sure that history gets where it's going.

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Okay. And it's moving in the direction that accords with his decree.

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He has an eternal plan that he's working out in history. You and I are involved in that. And providence is everything he does along the way to get us there.

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Like a good father, he provides, he sees to it that the needs of his children are met.

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Okay. That's the God that you and I worship. That's the God of providence. So, I mean, I guess

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I'd love to hear what you have to say just to that. I know I said a lot there, but really I think understanding this will give us a foundation, a providential view of history.

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Because, I mean, you said so much that was good in terms of who

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God raises up over our nation, even. Like there's so many texts that you could go to that talk about, um, you know,

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God is the one who ordains our rulers to office. He's the one that disposes them. Like here, here's where the founders got it.

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Just to give you a brief, a brief smattering here. Daniel 2 .21. He changes times and seasons.

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He removes kings and sets up kings. Daniel 4 .17. This is after the judgment of Nebuchadnezzar.

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The sentence is by the decree of the watchers, the decision by the word of the holy ones to the end that the living may know that the most high rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will.

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And sets it over, sets over at the lowliest of men. Or Job 12 .23.

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He makes nations great and he destroys them. He enlarges nations and leads them away.

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Or Psalm 33 .10. The Lord brings the counsel of the nations to nothing. He frustrates the plans of the peoples.

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The counsel of the Lord stands forever. The plans of his heart to all generations.

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Or Psalm 22. All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord and all the families of the nations shall worship before you.

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For kingship, another way you could say that would be sovereignty belongs to the Lord and he rules over the nations.

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Psalm 46 verse eight. Come behold the works of the Lord, how he has brought desolations on the earth.

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He makes wars cease to the end of the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the spear. He burns the chariots with fire.

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Be still. Or some translations say, stop your fighting and know that I am

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God. I will be exalted among the nations. I will be exalted in the earth. The Lord of hosts is with us.

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The God of Jacob is our fortress. So these texts and others remind us that no matter what's going on in the world, and it might sound really cliche to say this as a bottom line,

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God's in control. Yeah. Bingo. Um, yeah, you know, I've been, uh, going through Joseph right now with my three year old and talking about God's being sovereign over nations and, you know,

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I'm sure days are late. So we're, we're freaking out thinking like a lot of our Christians are right now.

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Just the end is, the end is near. We're done, you know, and here the whole time God's preserving

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Joseph in Egypt. And, you know, we all know the story to provide and protect his people.

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And, um, and so, yeah, we just gotta be faithful. Like I want part of my bedtime routine with my son is putting them down.

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I always pray over him every night while he's going to sleep. And I just, a lot of times to contemplate, I'm thinking a lot about just the

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Christian heritage that's been passed down to me, you know, through multiple generations,

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I can trace it back at least four or five generations, maybe more. Um, you know, and same with my wife and, you know, my prayer is always just the, um, that I'd be able to pass it on to my children and they can pass it on their children and so forth and so on until the end of time.

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And if you just like, just thinking about that a lot at night, just this, how that multiplies through faithful generations.

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Like I've, I've said this a lot and I got this from Joe boot. Um, but I truly believe that the way this culture is going can only last for so long, right?

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Because they're killing their babies or they're homosexual, not having babies. Um, and so if we're just being faithful Christians and raising up our children faithfully, we should outlive this nonsense just by sheer numbers.

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But that means as long as we're not giving our kids away, exactly. Well, that's the point. That's the whole point. Like we need to be intentional with our kids and if, and you know, we need to be having kids and, and, and training them up.

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Right. And so my whole thing lately has just been, just, I mean, we're having a household leadership class at our church here at the end of August and, and like, just,

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I want to challenge, not just the men in our church, but if you're watching this and you're a man, you have a wife, you have kids, like, don't be fearful.

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Like one, even if, even if Biden were to win again,

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God forbid, like you saw the last four years, which we don't want, by the way, we don't want, but I wasn't clear.

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Yeah. Obviously things have sucked. Yeah. Like I've been, we've been having the conversation this last week.

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Like my AC bill been like, well, like that's great. Cause like last, last year in June it was $4 a day.

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This year it's $11 a day. So like everything is like that. And it's not because I'm using more electricity.

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It's because everything's double, everything's double. And, um, but like, um, that's not going to be the end all, or that's not going to end our nation if he, you know, wins one more term.

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Um, because we have to start, everything's gotta be local. We gotta start in our own families. So like, what

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I want to impress upon our dads is like, be faithful with your family, focus on that, let God sort out the rest, right?

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That is so you can control that too. Exactly. Oh man. That's so dude, you're going to be on so many rabbit trails. I just talked to Darrell today on the way in here, you know, we're doing this ballot initiative stuff and he's got like 20 people that are working, working right now.

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And he was just amazed at how much they can get done from 20 people. And he's like, it's so cool. I'm seeing everyone's talents come out.

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And I'm like, bro, we could do so much more. Like our, our nation, our culture would suck far less if we just had people putting the effort in and being intentional.

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We've gotten so lazy. We've, we've trusted the GOP for so many years to do the right thing. And they're clearly not like, we need people to just be faithful with their families, be active, be involved politically, start small, start in your own communities, know who's running for mayor, know who's running for your city council, because you're going to have a better chance of impacting things locally before you get, you know, federally.

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And it's basically like, it's just, it's just most likely it's probably gonna be another four years of just going back and forth and not accomplishing anything, just jacking out the national debt.

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That's basically what's going on at the national level. So like, I want to challenge our dads to start in your homes, be faithful with your family.

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You know, there's the four roles of a dad, provider, protector, priest, prophet, provide, start there.

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We got a lot. And then we got a lot of dads that are doing great jobs providing and maybe protecting, but they suck at being prophets and priests in their home.

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And that prophet is someone who speaks for God, to his people. So that's through the reading of the word and the priest stands for his people to God.

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So that's leading them in prayer and worship. Like start with your families, raise up your kids, focus on that, be intentional with them.

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And, and God's sovereign over everything. He's, he's directing all this stuff going around us. Let, let him handle that stuff.

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Um, not that we can't, you know, play a role in that, not that we should just completely ignore it, but if we're focused on our family to start there, um,

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I think it's going to make a huge difference. So. Amen to all that, man. I got so many things based on what you said there, but I mean, the idea that God has shaken things up is usually the sign that he is getting ready to sweep one thing away in preparation for another two, like in every generation, there's a faithful remnant.

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Um, and that's our call to fix our eyes on his hand of providence and be faithful.

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What has he called you to do right now? Like, where has he placed you at this current moment? And think about all that he's done for you too.

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Like that should increase your love for him, your dependence upon him. Um, and think about like, start with this, start with the ultimate provision.

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Okay. There is again, providence. Start with the ultimate provision he's made for you in Christ. Like start there.

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Um, think about like Romans eight. Okay. So for the elect, like for God's people, because God is

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God, what does Paul say in Romans chapter eight, after he expands on this amazing theology of what

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God has done to reconcile us to himself through the work of his son, right?

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Um, those whom he foreknew, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers, right?

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And the golden chain of redemption there. Um, those whom he called, he also justified, justified, glorified and all the rest.

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And then at the end of that amazing theological treatise, he says, what shall we say to these things?

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Like, in other words, what's our response to God working out his divine purpose in the world and in our lives?

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If God is for us, who can be against us? In other words, I mean, recognizing his providence.

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Providence is recognizing that God is for you. He's with you. Um, it's a recognition that nothing we endure can separate us from his love and his perfect plan to make us perfect in Christ Jesus.

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That's why Paul lists all the things there in that list. And he goes to great lengths. He exhausts the vocabulary to say, no, honestly, it's nothing.

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Like nothing, uh, trial, danger, famine, nakedness, sword, anything in creation, high, low, nothing can separate us from the love of God.

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Which is to say that nothing can separate us from his purpose being brought to pass. Like God's not going to be thwarted. He's not going to be taken by surprise in this.

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Like the servant of the Lord will not grow faint or weary until he has established justice in the earth and the coastlands wait for his law.

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And so remember the former things of old Isaiah 46, nine, for I am

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God. And there is no other I am God. And there is none like me declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times, things not yet done saying my counsel shall stand and I will accomplish.

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All my purpose. And if you're in Christ and God is accomplishing his purposes in you and in the world, then guess what?

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All things, even the hard things, the things that we might be in store for in our nation. Okay. This is not like the blind optimist view of the future.

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Okay. It could get really rough for us. Like, let's just say that, but we have the promise in Romans chapter eight and in other places that God is going to bend all of reality, even those tough things to serve the good of his people, right?

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He causes all things to work together for the good of those that love him and are the called according to his purposes, right?

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Anything that happens to us is ultimately meant to serve us for the sake of making us look more like Christ and for advancing his purposes in the world.

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And I just want to end maybe on this right here and give us some practical application here of how providence equips us for the future.

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So, I mean, we've defined what it is, see a little bit of it in scripture, but understanding providence allows us to number one, walk by faith and not by sight.

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Yeah. Proverbs chapter three, trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

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In all your ways, acknowledge him and he will direct your paths. We do a very good job of trusting the evidence of our eyes.

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When like Elisha, we need to have our eyes open to see the army of the Lord's hosts that the bad guys can't see surrounding us.

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We need to look with the eyes of faith on the promises of God so that we can see the victory and the victory is this, the meek inherit the earth.

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Like the wicked are the ones that are uprooted and thrown out eventually. So understanding providence allows us to walk by faith and not by sight.

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Um, which incidentally causes us to focus on doing the right thing and leaving the results to God.

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Do the right thing and leave the results to God because he's in control. What's your duty?

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Faithfulness, not trusting in horses or chariots for the battle is the Lord's. And then number three, understanding providence allows us to fix our eyes heavenward on God's promises and reflect on all of his benefits.

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Uh, Puritan John Flavel states, it's the duty of the saints, especially in times of straits to reflect upon the performances of providence for them in all the states and throughout all the stages in their life.

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Why? Because in reflecting on God's goodness to you, your heart is filled with thankfulness and it causes you to number four, understanding providence allows us to wage our warfare with a heart of worship.

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If your heart is grateful and your heart is clean because you know what Christ has done to forgive you, your life will be carried out from a heart of worship and you will be able to fight from a place of worship and recognizing that God is in control, right?

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This understanding of providence, thankfulness, gratefulness, all of that causes us to realize our dependence upon him for everything, which increases our love and our affections for him, which is what we need to fight, right?

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If our affections are not sold out for God, if our dependence is not completely on him, if it's in some way on our own self -reliance, on our own preparation, on our own abilities, then we're going to unravel and we won't be good leaders and we won't be good to our people.

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So understanding providence in a world that's going mad really is like our nation is seemingly falling apart.

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Like, I think we can all see that. So what does it look like to do what the

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Bible calls us to do, which is to be sober -minded, to have nerve, which just means to not let our emotions or our passions overwhelm us, to have a mind that governs our passions and to have

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God be the governor of our minds, right? So that's the need of the hour really.

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And I think understanding the doctrine of divine providence can help us that if we would, but meditate on some of these truths.

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Yeah. So speaking of Bill Rapier just texting me, you probably saw the, uh,

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DOJ released a list of like, uh, Homeland terrorist groups or whatever, and all the pro -life groups are in there, which is just hilarious.

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Not like national right to life. I think I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. They're listed on the, like the logos on there. And do you, you saw even too, like the

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Susan B. Like they were like praising the GOP for removing the pro -life position from the platform.

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I don't know if you saw it. I did not see that, but it's like, Oh, thank you for, for taking out the core issue that we stand for.

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It's like just bizarre. Yeah. So you exactly is exactly right. Ha ha ha. Be faithful.

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God does always preserve a remnant. Be faithful. You'll be part of that remnant. Even if our nation goes bye -bye.

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Be faithful. And trust him and stop worrying. Stop being yours. Stop being fearful.

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Be courageous. Um, I, I really believe I got this from Dr. White. He's, he said this once like last year, maybe

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I think that God's allowing a lot of this nonsense to run its course so that we can look back and be like, well, that was a dumb experiment.

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Obviously we feel that way, but history will look back and say that was, that was dumb. That didn't work. Yeah. Um, and we're just going to be just a blip on that radar, you know, in history and, but be faithful and, and trust

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God. And, um, that's, that's what we gotta do. And so, so bury the fear, bury the, the worry, um, and be faithful with your families, trust

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God, and, um, that's all we can do. And you look at Gideon, I think that, uh,

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COVID really exposed, we've said this a lot, but COVID exposed a lot of our cultural idols, especially within the church, it exposed a lot of the fake pastors and the fake churches and the cowards for, for who they are.

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Um, and God doesn't need, God doesn't need a gazillion people. He just needs the faithful remnant.

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He needs that Gideon's army. Um, we just read about that in family worship too. Yeah. They started out with how many 30 something thousand.

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Yeah. And God whittled it down to arms. It might've been 20 or 30 ,000, but God whittled it down to 300, 300.

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And they surrounded their enemies who were far and away larger than they were.

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And God threw them into a panic and scattered them. And guess why, guess, uh, why

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God chose those 300. I mean, obviously it was part of his plan, but they, there's a common,

01:04:45

I mean, I, well, I taught on this passage once and I completely had it wrong my whole life. Again, the flannel graph version of this just had me all messed up.

01:04:53

Um, I always thought that God chose the 300, um, that were, uh, had their face down to the water, not the, not the ones that were lapping it like dogs.

01:05:06

I was like, no, read it again. He chose the ones that were bringing the water up to their mouths and lapping up like dogs.

01:05:12

And why? It's because they were vigilant. They were ready. They were prepared. They were watchful.

01:05:17

Exactly. Stand firm in the faith. Be watchful, be strong. Act like men. That's exactly why

01:05:23

God chose them. So be faithful, be watchful, get, put your head up, quit burying it in the sand and hoping, uh, that life doesn't suck because I ain't going to solve anything.

01:05:36

Um, yeah, be faithful. So that's, that's it. Um, we will do an after show.

01:05:42

I don't know what Zach may have to take off. So it may just be me, but if you want to stick around, I'll access sirs. Stick around for the after show and I'll bring some questions.

01:05:49

I'll try to answer them. I think we got a question. Yes. Liam Baker. Uh, thank you. Thank you, man. Uh, he says 16 year old theology lover here.

01:05:56

Can men have long hair? First Corinthians 11. I just want to live in God's will. Thank you for your huge impact in my life. Thank you for blessing us.

01:06:03

Um, I'm not going to dive deep into that passage because it makes people want to fight. Um, I will say that I believe that passage is primarily eschatological and I would recommend, um, actually pastor

01:06:16

Wade apology at Utah did an excellent little short video on that. If you go to apology,

01:06:21

Utah on YouTube and look up that passage, I don't remember what it's titled. Maybe head covering it or something like that.

01:06:29

Um, he did an excellent, excellent little video on that would, uh, I would hold to the same position. Yeah. And there is something to be said,

01:06:36

Liam, too, for, you know, we, we, we live in clown world where the lines are more blurry than they've ever been in terms of our androgynous feminized culture, um, where the lines between men and women are not distinct.

01:06:51

And so I would say just as a matter of practical godliness, um, the more you can look like a man in this culture, the more you can, uh, act like a man, of course, and the, the conduct and character that you embody that Luke was talking about from that verse in Corinthians, but also in your physical appearance, uh, all the better if you can keep the lines clear.

01:07:12

Yeah. Amen to that. Cause that's the knee of the hour is clarity. Amen to that. Well, thank you everyone.

01:07:18

It's been a great show. Um, and we, oh, I won't be here next week. Actually. I leave next week for my sabbatical.

01:07:24

So I'll be gone for two weeks. So I don't know what's going on. That should be a good passage of, um, but thank you.

01:07:30

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Um, and of course, um, EAN, we, we love all of our people that support

01:08:00

EAN. You're the best for that. You're helping us every day. I mean, there's so much going on literally every single day.

01:08:07

Um, trying to save babies and end abortion in our nation. And we can't do it without the faithfulness of God's people supporting us.

01:08:13

So, um, anything you want to mention along those lines? I echo it. Okay.

01:08:19

Well, we will be, uh, in Louisiana and Baton Rouge at pastor Brian Gunter church first weekend.

01:08:25

I think in September, I believe it's the sixth. So be watching for that. If you're able to make it, we'll be having a pastor's meeting there.

01:08:31

And then, um, I believe it's September 20th, whatever that third weekend is. We're going to be in, uh,

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North Dakota. Um, which I'm excited about that. We have not been there yet. So we're going to be there trying to end abortion in North Dakota as well.

01:08:46

So, um, that's all I got. Anything else there, Mr. Babyface McGee?

01:08:52

Nope. Thanks for tuning in guys. Really appreciate it. Hope it was a blessing. All right. We're grateful for you all.