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Very rare diseases floating around the waiting room at the ER. I don't need those and so I didn't do that, but Saw the ophthalmologist this morning.

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And so that's why my eyes look super puffy Because first they do the numbing drops which sting and then they so my they did the

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Dilation, so I'm sure I my eyes are nice and big and everything's sort of foggy and fuzzy at the moment

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But no retinal tear no retinal separation Basically a long story short and hey for those of you who are getting into your 60s

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I Didn't have this information. So maybe a little helpful to you The vitreous humor in your eyeball shrinks with age and As it pulls away it can

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Damage things by pulling the retina with it Or sometimes it can pull away and the retina stays right where it's supposed to But when you think about it, you don't have

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Sensing nerves in your retina You only have light sensing nerves that they don't sense pain.

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So they don't transmit Pain signals they transmit light signals So if something happens inside your eye

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Such as the vitreous humor pulling away from a part of the retina That Would cause pain

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But the only thing that those nerves can report to your brain is light Hence the flashes that I flashes light that I saw and still see a little bit

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Only once it's very very dark inside But I Well, the first things the doctor said was cataracts and I'm like,

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I don't like that But he basically said pretty much everybody at your age has them

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The question is how fast they develop And with a rather deadpan look on his face.

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I did get him to smile a few times. I did my best I really did But but he said

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I would say You might want to have these dealt with because my wife had had a cataract and she had the whole lens replaced about 10 -15 years ago probably about 15 and it was fast and she's had great vision ever since then and But he said yeah probably between 40 and 14 years from now

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So between between 76 and 102 Okay, you say so now

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I almost I almost feel like trying to talk him into it just simply I am sadly getting the point where I'm contemplating donating my

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Telescopes at least all but one of them the the smaller Lighter easy to set up one that I can look at planets and stuff like that with I'll I'll keep but the big ones

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My vision just isn't sharp enough to really Do that much with them anymore so but then, you know, the other option would be talking into replacing at least one of them and Get good vision back to be able to use telescopes.

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Who knows? Probably won't do that Probably won't do it at all. But anyway, so that's good news.

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I was very concerned that the upcoming trips to Conway and Jonesboro at the end of next month and then to Livingston Not all that long after that.

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I'm gonna drive back be home just a couple weeks and drive all the way back to Louisiana that those might get messed up by the all this but If they're gonna get messed up, they're not gonna get messed up by my eyes

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Anyways, who knows what else could Could go wrong But there you go.

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Hey just saw a picture of Joe boot At least he's not wearing those salmon colored slacks.

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That's much better Joe much better Still you know the brown and those shoes,

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I don't know guy But anyways filming worldview curriculum in Lexington, Kentucky today with my colleagues.

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Well good We need all of that that we can we can possibly get All right

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Tons and tons and tons of stuff happening in the world. Obviously as everybody knows

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I I was when

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I was driving over here and yes, I'm driving through a fog right now But it's amazing what you can see even through a fog

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You know, I'm thinking and and my fellow elders

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Mentioned this on apology a radio on Thursday I think it was yeah

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Thursday afternoon. I And I've mentioned this I mentioned this them on Monday at the inauguration.

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I was like, you know Look, I appreciate all the positive stuff that's happening. I appreciate defunding

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Planned Parenthood appreciate There's two genders and I you know all this stuff. I appreciate but I just have to have to recognize this is supposed to be being done by the

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Legislature It's supposed to be done by the legislative branch this isn't the role of the executive and it's not the role of the judicial either for that matter and I just can't imagine what we would be feeling and thinking if Things had been different in November and all this stuff was being done in reverse

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And I Also can't help but think That the

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American populace is so fickle and has such short memories

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What's going to happen when the other side gets back in power and has both the Senate in the house because they're even more radical

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It's just not how the way this isn't the way it's supposed to be done we are electing

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Kings now instead of presidents the Congress is worthless

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The left will not that there is no such thing as bipartisanship when I was young People work together for the good of the country that doesn't happen anymore

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So the legislative branch is pretty much dead the judicial has taken over a lot of that and And so who controls

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Court means everything now That's why you that's why you saw the left put pure ideologues that have absolutely no place being on the court on the court and the executive branch has become the royal branch the the king and If you rejoice in it now, you're not going to have a whole lot of basis for Griping about it when the other side is doing the same thing and it obviously can't last the

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The Constitution was written not by not not fully by Christian men.

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There's no question about that But it was written in a

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Christian milieu And it utilizes Christian categories of government law

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Mankind male -female and Hence, I don't know how long it can last

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In a context of secularism and people on the right and the left right now are secularists and they they operate within that context and that's

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Yeah, that's that's rough that's ugly and We'll see what happens with it alright so wonderful time at church last night

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Jeff got done preaching He comes down stands next to me. I think there's a song going on.

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It was yeah, it was after the supper and I looked at the clock and I went up to Jeff and I He leans over for me to talk to him when

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I go You feeling okay? He goes. Yeah Because because I the chance that there was a chance that I was got to preach yesterday evening this afternoon

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He had called me Saturday night said I may be coming down with something just give you a heads up start thinking about something okay,

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I appreciate it and so I had some thoughts in mind and and Yesterday morning we do outreach to the

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Mormons At various ward chapels around the valley there's hundreds of them and We just stand outside the entrances to the parking lots, obviously and Talk to people if they want to talk pass out tracks.

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They want to stop take a track and So I went out My son -in -law heads up our

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Outreach to the Mormons and so my most of my grandkids were out there So I went out and had a fairly lengthy conversation with the young man didn't at the time did not feel like it was overly useful

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To be honest with you, but you never know There have been many times. I I remember talking to a woman once came up to me and said, you know

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You it's no way you could remember this but years and years ago You all were outside the general conference and you're passing out tracks, man

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We said horrible things about you you folks and we took tracks and tore him up and threw him away But that was what started my journey out of Mormonism so you never know you you can't tell by that particular conversation at that particular point in time and So it had already been a

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You know long day With the outreach and The out with the

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Ward Chapel is farther away than churches and the church is 35 minutes one way on freeways, it's about that's about 35 miles and So I get home last night after a good service good time with the

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Saints and I Sit down at the computer just to sort of check stuff wondering what

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I'm gonna do depending on what happened with the I appointment this morning and Lo and behold

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Corey Mahler has decided to Come after me and I'm not sure

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What You know causes rich it are are is is

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I I don't know that you have access to this to my laptop

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Since you're remote I'm not sure if and I I certainly don't have it since I don't since the

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ATEM is not on so I have no way Of getting to it So I'm not sure whether that's even a possibility or not.

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He says one second. Okay 1001 1002 1003

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You know slowly that goes Well, well Rachel's I've got it

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I've got up here on my screen we'll see if he can track it down and and put it up there for you, but I I get home and I sit down at the computer and There it is and here's

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Here's Corey J. Mahler and those who don't know Corey J. Mahler is he is an excommunicated Excommunicated Lutheran Excommunicated for general hatred of mankind is what

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I had been told The video of his excommunication was posted again today by somebody online but he is the head of the stone choir cult and it is a cult and I don't know what

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I said yesterday, honestly to trigger this but I offer you this advice

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Host L. You throw which means as free men those of you who wondering from Peter's epistles retire take what remains of your legacy and let it stand on its own without Continuing to tear it down.

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If you decline I can assure you that absolutely nothing will remain when you and we are done

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Hmm now it sounds like it's supposed to be a little bit on the threatening side, don't you think

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I Can assure you that absolutely nothing will remain when you and we are done Done with what?

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Who knows? but you know, I I Don't take real well to being threatened by cult leaders and I didn't take too well to that and I said

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I'm going to stand firm against people like you and your movement Or as long as the

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Lord gives me Breath and the ability to do so and I will train younger men to take up that task when

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I'm no longer capable of doing that because You know, I and I said in the later tweet, you know, you sound just like Joseph Smith and he does

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There there's there's a lot of parallels between this movement now what's what's different of course is this movement

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Isn't really in person very much It's primarily online

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Which allows it to spread widely but It gives it a very different character a little bit actually harder to fight in some ways because electronic access to people is ubiquitous now and But you know he was claiming to you know that he teaches the scriptures, you know

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All the rest is kind of stuff and I'm like, yeah, Joseph Smith said the same thing Charles Taze Russell judge

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Rutherford Ellen G White they all you know, they all said that they were teaching the scriptures purely and all the system

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I I challenge you to find a single lie and anything we've said on the stone choir podcast all the rest of stuff

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Well, that's it was late last evening. So I had written two or three responses and I went to bed

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I had to get up this morning get ready for a Important doctor's appointment see how things are developing and going and what's going on my eye and So after they've put the drops in you know, the the numbing drops and all that that type stuff

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Hard to see real clearly, but thankfully I was still able to pretty much read my phone because it was a busy place

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And so you have to sit in this waiting room To go to that place and do this and they take pictures and all that kind of stuff and So all of a sudden up pops this

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Out, you know that it may have maybe even been before I left the house this morning. I think about it where it started anyways

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Up starts The up comes this statement From Corey Mahler about the name

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Yahweh now, let me let me back up just one second last night

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When I responded to him one of his responses to me was I'm sure you'd have leveled the same slander against Luther among others.

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I Guess he's talking about the fact that he's ex -communicant That that's public knowledge.

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That's not slander. That's the fact he is an ex -communicated man Um The problem mr.

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White is that you are now defending what you are now defending is neither the gospel nor truth

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You are defending the sinking ship of liberalism. You are defending a false.

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God you have chosen unwisely Feel like looking for the

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Holy Grail that last line, but you are defending the sinking ship of liberalism

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Hmm now some people thought that that's a small L and So some type of liberal theology or something along those lines now.

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He's he's talking about In his own way the post -war consensus stuff globalism

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Denial of sovereign nations stuff that of course, I don't defend or promote in any way shape or form

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But in his mind, you know when you're a cult leader What you define is most important and what you say is connected something else just is because no one can question you and so for some reason he thinks and I'm since I oppose his white nationalist ethnic animus

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Cult like perspectives that that makes me a champion of Post -war consensus the rest of that kind of silliness and a false

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God. I Mean the confusion and the category Catastrophe that is

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Cory Mahler and his people is pretty pretty amazing stuff. And so at a number of people even last night saying

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Just just ignore this guy, you know, he's not worth you're taking your time and I'm like no no,

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I disagree In fact, I wrote to a guy who said you're you're wasting your time and I said he is a cult leader

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He is building a cult It is best to keep an eye on what he's up to. He had said you should block him

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I said best keep an eye on what he's up to True believers must be warned Like those that Paul fought against he and his followers

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Sneak in Parise duo I put the term from Galatians for those who would want to do that type of thing

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Sneak in in this modern period through social media Their goal is to draw away disciples after them.

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And again, I gave the quote from Acts 20 30 They are Luke boy, but ice savage wolves

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When Paul warned the Ephesian elders about such men, he did not tell them to block those folks or Ignore these false teachers, but to expose them resist them rebuke them and protect the flock no matter what the cost and I think that's

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What we need to be doing as well, and I can't help but think about Going back to the parallel of Mormonism.

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I Have it in my library over in the other room the first Book seeking to expose and repudiate

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Mormonism, I guess you'd call it the first anti Mormon book was by Edie how Mormonism unveiled

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Off top my head. I think it was 1834 and the vast majority of LDS doctrine

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That is significant today didn't exist in 1834 Joseph didn't start getting his polytheistic ideas till about 1838 18 over it says 1835, okay

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And So, you know Howe's book is very useful very interesting, you know given when it was written

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It wouldn't be all that useful or interesting today in the sense that the Mormonism he was responding to That's not what how it stayed it it changed over time

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But I've often thought what would it be like? to live in the time period where a cult was starting

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I Suppose you could argue we all always live in the time period where a cult is starting we just don't necessarily know it and When you think about early

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Mormon history the Danites, you know It would have been really hard back then for people to get hold of information until Smith started, you know a printing, you know got a printing press and started doing a newspaper and Publishing revelations and you know,

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I made it a little bit easier for people but still in comparison today It would be really hard to track down original sources have really good argumentation and stuff like that but today we have a cult starting right under our noses and Most people are like, yeah lock them ignore them too much negativity out there

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Or on the other side like oh you're being too harsh, I mean these guys have they've got good production value

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Well, so do the Mormons they've got all the money in the world to have the best films and Slick as can be man.

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Have you ever seen the Ensign magazine, you know Production value that has nothing to do with truth at all

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But I think that's that's where we are is we are we are in a situation where we have a cult starting and the cult

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Is not centered in a location It's not trying to form a actual physical church but is a cult of the internet and They are that kind of stuff already exists in You know a lot of the black

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Hebrew Israelite stuff transcends one particular area and You've got a lot of things like that within within the electronic realm

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But here's a here's a cult that sneaks in spies out Goes through the back door

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Via means of of the the iPhone and the droid and so on and so forth and Gets you know steals converts pulls pulls them away

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Gets followers for themselves and that's what stone choir is and He's like well just show me where I'm wrong and I'm like, oh, yeah

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I really want to spend a lot of time with all your stuff. But then he just comes along and Provides me with the perfect example.

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It's like what? So and so I think I saw this this morning Um Let me uh, see

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I hey I did that myself

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I Blew up a little bit. Here's um, here's what was it?

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What was the context I had done? I Had specific I was responding to someone and I had

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Well, I was responding to him. Oh, no, this is what I responded to this.

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Okay here here He says the Lord God whose name is most certainly not the demon Yahweh Rank Judaizing is a sure mark of the apostate.

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So I'm not sure if you can put that up. But I And I my response to him was

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Man, I wasn't asking for examples, but since you've provided to me great fine

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Wonderful, the Lord God whose name is most certainly not the demon Yahweh Rank Judaizing is a sure mark of the apostate

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So if you make reference to Yahweh a Name that appears over 6 ,000 times in the

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Old Testament in the original language of the Old Testament, which is Hebrew Then evidently you are some kind of a rank

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Apostate And I saw someone else mentioning that they ran this particular tweet

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Past grok the Twitter AI assistant and even he made mention of Martianism I say he it made mention of Gnosticism Martianism Things like that, which is an accurate analysis

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The real Gnostics not the Valentinian Gnostics who tried to very specifically

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Mimic Christianity But the the regular

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Gnostics probably their Mythology developed prior to encountering a lot about Jesus It's a mishmash.

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I mean there is no single Gnostic systematic theology, but the

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Gnostics who didn't Try to look like Christians Identified Yahweh as the

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Demiurge Yaldabaoth was another term they used and this was a lesser deity almost a mutation in a sense

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Because he had come about by Sophia wisdom Not remaining faithful to her consort

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It's a really messed up system, obviously, it's very strange But so there was a anti Yahweh element to Martianite Gnosticism and You you wonder if that's not

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I doubt that's the origin of this but it's a fascinating parallel that takes place and So I'm sitting here and and I responded

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I think Yeah, I think what

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I wrote Yeah, five hours ago and I just put cult leaders doing cult things and then

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I quoted Deuteronomy 435 in Hebrew and I have that in In accordance here.

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So I want you to see because you know, I put the Hebrew in there, but For me anyways, it's not all that easy to read in Twitter because of the line stuff

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You can put it in correctly, but it won't stay that way when it when it

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Everybody else reads it and So the Hebrew frequently because Hebrews obviously right to left not left, right?

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The line the line spacing is differently is different line orientation justification stuff like that So I put

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Deuteronomy 435 in and I also put in a text from Jeremiah chapter 10 But here is and if it's possible to go full screen on that Because it's just for me.

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That's way too small for me to even see it from here There we go So this is

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I've told you don't worry about putting me up. Let me blather here a second This was one of the verses that we had on our witnessing with the word t -shirt and This was a t -shirt we made in the 1980s

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Silk screening was still a fairly new thing back then and This was definitely one of them

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Deuteronomy 435 Where you can see So To you it was shown

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Uh that you might know that Yahweh who ha

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Elohim Ain't old Mill Vadoo so That you might know from yada

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What what is it? You might know Yahweh he is

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Ha Elohim the God That's an article he is God he is the

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God there is none besides him now most of the

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Disputation I would assume Because when you're when you're involved in apologetics you have to predict what your opponent is going to be how they're going to be responding to various points you make and So in general that you will find

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So much garbage About the name Yahweh Online, I mean you you can find anything and everything

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You know, I I had someone come up to me at church a couple years ago Hey, I heard someone say that Yahweh was a demon

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God and I what what in the world and and I'm like, yeah What in the world is is that all about?

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Part of the Disputation is about pronunciation. I Had a guy on Twitter just this morning say well, where did the a and the e come from in Yahweh?

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When you look at Yahweh The You need to remember if you go back to the

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Isaiah scroll Found a Quran you will find that it is consonantal text only

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Just like the earliest Quranic manuscripts are consonantal texts

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Semitic languages are Consonantal now that doesn't mean that you don't have Vowel letters

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That can function in that way but the

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Dots dashes and various and sundry other items that you see Underneath and mixed in with the letters even on the screen in front of you right now

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Were added Primarily by the Mazarites long after they're originally written.

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That's why for example Anthony buzzard is wrong with his argumentation in Psalm 110 when he says well this this can't this actually disproves deity of Christ because It's add a knee not add an eye and add a knee is always a human

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But of course whether it's add an eye or add a knee was dependent upon The people who inserted the vowel pointing at the later point in time

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And of course they were the Mazarites and they were Jews They already knew how the Christians used Psalm 110 and so they've out pointed it to try to Substantiate their side of things.

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So what what you get is you get the argument that well, we don't know what letters

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You know, they put though they put the vowel pointing for add an eye so that you'd be reminded to read add an eye

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My lord Rather than reading Yahweh But the reality is for people who aren't aren't trying to sell books aren't trying to start a cult aren't aren't trying to draw disciples away after themselves the most

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Logical reliable predictable pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton yod.

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Hey, wow. Hey right there Yod. Hey, wow. Hey right there four letters the most

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Logical way of pronouncing that is Yahweh Now if you want to argue

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Yahweh or something it then you then you have to you have to make those that type of argumentation and and You know go for it if you want to it doesn't matter

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The fact the matter is this is the covenant name of God And when it says, you know,

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I will exalt your name Oh Lord in the LSB, that'll be I'll exalt your name

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Oh Yahweh and the Jews stop pronouncing the divine name and so When the

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Greek septuagint over here on the right Was translated translated into the

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Greek language It says Hati Kourios Hathaiasu the

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Kourios Lord is your God and The same you can see the same thing

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Deuteronomy 6 4. This is very important because This ends up being cited by Paul in 1st

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Corinthians chapter 8 Etc, etc. This one is God and there is none besides him

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The the the Greek translation is accurate but instead of You know you there is a term

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Adonai Which means Lord. So how would you differentiate that the the

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Greek septuagint really doesn't you don't have any way of really knowing Where the Tetragrammaton is being used just from the

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Greek septuagint itself It uses a term Kourios. Now, of course Kourios is the term used of Jesus No one can say

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Jesus Christ is Kourios, Jesus Kourios except by the Holy Spirit So Kourios is obviously extremely important Because of the fact that it represents the divine name and When you can demonstrate that the

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Old Testament is being quoted in the new and the divine name was in the original Then that's extremely significant when you get to the

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Old Testament at the New Testament text and what the writers are Communicating to us about who

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Yahweh is and so just go back to last year's debate On is

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Jesus Yahweh and you'll see why that is very very important So most the argumentation will be well, it should be

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Jehovah or it should be this we know it's not Jehovah Jehovah is a three -syllable word. This isn't a three syllable word.

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So It's not that But that's generally what the argumentation is.

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Well, we don't know the pronunciation blah blah blah blah. That's irrelevant Yahweh is the best pronunciation by people who aren't trying to sell books

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And then how it is then used in the New Testament is extremely important and the fact the matter is

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Yahweh He is God. This is God the Old Testament Once you start saying the God the

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Old Testament the God New Testament are different gods You have graduated to full -blown

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Gnosticism And are the heretic that everyone knew you were all along and your mom probably knew that too.

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So anyway So there's Deuteronomy 435 Yahweh he is ha

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Elohim and by the way for those of you who witness to Mormons This is the verse you're looking at the verse on the screen right now

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That got me kicked out of the visitor's center at the Mesa LDS temple many many years ago

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They've closed that visitor center down open a different one up across the street now But I was asking two elderly missionaries

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To explain this to me to explain how I was using the King James version of the Bible their version of the

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Bible showed it to them they I'd show them how Lord L -O -R -D in all caps is is

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Jehovah and in 1901 the Mormon Church first presidency put out an official statement identifying the father is

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Elohim and the son as Jehovah and you can go ahead and take that down and That actually probably goes against Joseph Smith, I saw

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I just Smith didn't understand these things Joseph Smith could not read these languages did not have access to these languages

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And So when I showed them, you know in the LDS temple ceremonies

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Jehovah and Elohim are separate distinct individuals But in the news in the

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Bible They're not separate distinct individuals is there's only one God Yahweh and so they asked me to leave and This was the verse that's got me in trouble at that particular point in time.

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So this is one of two I also went to Jeremiah chapter 10 and which we talked about on the vine line just last week and talked about how that likewise identifies

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Yahweh and Elohim and So if you're talking to a Mormon This is valuable stuff to use but I am uncertain of exactly

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What Mahler's problem is I would assume it is some kind of The Jews are so terrible terrible terrible terribly terribly terribly bad that the name of God that they used

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We can't have anything to do with that so Here is the next thing that Mahler posts and I'm like, well

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There we go. Nothing like providing me with all the examples I could ever want of Just how messed up your theology really is

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God not only caused his word to be translated into Greek But he then went one step further and destroyed the

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Hebrew language Which remained extinct for nearly 2 ,000 years God could not have been more clear the scriptures are

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Greek now, this is Fascinating now, we know Mahler is a cultist. We know he's cult leader. Okay, you can't take anything.

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He says seriously, but It it struck me as fascinating So God inspired the

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Septuagint which one Which one there is no one Septuagint Anyone who is familiar with the history of that venerable ancient translation

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Knows that there isn't just one of them because it wasn't all done at one time the

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Mythological story that was passed around even amongst Christians Was it 70 or in some versions 72?

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Scholars were brought together. They all went into caves They translated the entire Old Testament came back out compared their translations and they were word -for -word the same which demonstrated that this was a tremendous miracle and therefore this is

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This is how God wants his scriptures to be the Old Testament scriptures to be understood because this took place before the birth of Christ and The problem is of course

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Once you actually work with the Septuagint Well Let's take that in the other room

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Why would I do that? I don't know but it looks like I did because Yep, wow, that's weird.

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I thought for sure I had left at least one of them in here for For Illustrative purposes shall we say but no it

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It done be gone. I'm not gonna run to the room grab one, but I mean I The anyone who spends a lot of time and if you

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If you work with New Testament citations of the Old Testament You will be spending a lot of time with the Greek Septuagint because at least 85 to 95 depending on whose study you're reading 85 to 95 percent of the citations of the

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Old Testament in the New Testament are from the Greek and There are some differences

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Between what is cited For example, we've talked about this many times on the program

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Hebrews chapter 8 He was chapter 8 Jeremiah chapter 31 in the

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Hebrew Though I was a husband to them but when it's cited in Hebrews chapter 8 in the

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Greek is though I did not care for them and This is a textual variant in the

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Hebrew between Baal and Gaal Bet and Gimel look somewhat alike that at least they're not completely different and So it's just it's just a one -letter difference and You can see the manuscripts that have the different readings.

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You can see that represented. There's something called the Gertingen Septuagint that is as far as I know the most extensive

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Critical text of the Greek Septuagint so it gives you all the variant readings and stuff like that You can get it in Logos you can get in accordance and You'll be able to see the

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Cross contamination between the various traditions between the Hebrew Masoretic text

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There was no Masoretic text at that time. There was what we would call a proto Masoretic text The Masoretic text really develops long after the time of Christ And it certainly existed in its earliest form in the days of Christ you see that in the

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Isaiah scroll or the Leviticus scroll where you have Scrolls who were written a hundred years before Christ and That now that we can read them they've been discovered are basically unchanged a

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Thousand years later nine hundred years after Christ when the first Great Hebrew codices become available

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So you do not have to have corruption, but you can have corruption It's not just a necessary element of the transmission of the text in handwritten form.

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Anyway The the textual history of the

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Old Testament in the first century is extremely complicated extremely complex The vast majority of people have not ever read

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Immanuel Tov or anything like that To have any type of background in that area. It's not easy to discuss and to go through but the point is there is no one

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Greek Septuagint, you know that the translation Excuse me the translation

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Wet the whistle there a second the translation varies greatly in its quality

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So the Pentateuch well done Psalter yeah really can be

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Made your profits. Yeah, but yeah, you get into some of the historical books and some of the minor prophets and Not only do you have?

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questionable translation but questionable text it didn't all happen at once maybe the

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Pentateuch was done at once and Then some of the major prophets after that and the Psalter, you know

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The more the more popular stuff and then later stuff comes later and it's not all done by the same group of people

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It's not of the same quality It's not all done at the same time. So there isn't just one

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Septuagint At all so is Cory Mahler actually

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Pretending that the Septuagint is inspired. Now the Septuagint was The Bible of the early church.

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There's no question about that Very early on as the gospel went into the

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Greek speaking world and then into the Latin speaking world The bridge that allowed that to happen was the

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Greek Septuagint Sure, the New Testament writings are in Greek, but they're in Koine Greek. Septuagint is

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Very much readable to a Koine reader, but there are some Eccentricities there's some there were some developments in the 200 years, but not not massively different and So having the

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Septuagint allowed for this transition And You know when you start having early translations of The Christian scriptures

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Into other languages whether it be the old Latin Syriac Boheric Sahitic Coptic all that kind of stuff

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Those are very very important witnesses to the development of the text of the New Testament But you have the same thing happening with the

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Old Testament not as widely and What ends up happening and this has a huge impact on things follow follow the line here as In the history of the church in the

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New Testament reveals a Division Developed very early on between the church and the synagogue

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John tells us that anyone who confessed Jesus was gonna be put out of the synagogue and we see this later in history taking place and Then you have persecution against the

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Christians by the Jews Paul the situation it takes place there and documented for us in the book of Acts then that unfortunately then leads to a

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Division that results in an ignorance on the part of most

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People who are handling the scriptures of the original languages of the Old Testament and So, you know

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Augustine isn't reading the Old Testament Hebrew He's not really reading it in Greek either though he has some functionality in Greek primarily reads

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Latin and so you you had Latin translations and then

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Jerome comes along and He translates and there had been people who had done portions of before, you know,

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Melito talks about a little bit a century beforehand But you eventually have the

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Latin Vulgate as the standard text for the Old Testament even superseding the

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Greek all the way up to the time of the Reformation and So One of the this is fascinating because I was gonna be talking about this anyway

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So track with me here. Try to try to stay with me I'm literally gonna make a connection between Cory Mahler and the stone cult group the stone cold cult group

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And Eastern Orthodoxy How in the world am

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I do that? Let's see if I can do it so The early church.

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I told the story in the King James only controversy 30 years ago when

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Jerome translated the book of Jonah Jerome had moved to Bethlehem he had more direct access to native

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Hebrew reading rabbis and things like that and so he rendered the story of the gourd growing over Jonah's head

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Differently than the Greek Septuagint did when he rendered it in Latin Because living in Bethlehem.

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He was able to go to the Jewish rabbis and go What's this referring to and they're like, well, that's such and such a plant.

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That's one of the biggest It's one of the toughest areas is flora and fauna If you don't live in the area

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Then what's this talking about? What what kind of a plant is is what kind of an animal is this?

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You know and in some places that we really struggle to know We've gotten better over the years because we've

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Found all these other languages that have maybe cognate terms and stuff like that so we can shed some light out that way

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But he goes and he asks the rabbis and they say what this is such as such a plant So that's how he renders it in the

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Latin, which is different than Greek Septuagint So the first time that that was read in public in Carthage there was a riot in the streets people rioted because the story had been changed from what they were accustomed to and The irony of course is that the

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Greek Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate becomes the standard text over time

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And has to be displaced by Well by the original languages and it eventually is

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I mean Rome defended the Latin for a long time, but eventually Gave in on that too. So here's where the connection is

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The Hebrew term ahav is used many times in the

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Old Testament and Words have what's called a semantic domain

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Some words have a very narrow semantic domain. They are very technical words. They refer to only one thing

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Some words have a very large Semantic domain they can be used to refer to all sorts of stuff and the term ahav

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Can be Understood in the Hebrew language to refer to worship and Service so you shall not

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Serve other gods You shall not worship other gods. The one

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Hebrew term ahav can be used For both And is

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Translated by different terms in the Greek Septuagint part of that being The Septuagint is not a single translation again.

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It's it's You had one group over here and they did a translation and 30 years later These these guys do a different translation of different books and there's no communication between them

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And so you you get you you can't say there is a specific choice on the part of the

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Septuagint translators because we don't know who they were and They didn't live at the same time and they weren't in the same place and they didn't have each other's fax numbers and things like that so John of Damascus John Damascene, you'll see his name in both places

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Saint John of Damascus in Roman Catholic and Orthodox parlance is a famous bishop theologian who lives after His city and land has been taken over by the

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Muslims. It's a whole new world and He wrote in defense of the veneration of icons his defense of veneration of icons was

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Absolutely foundational central To The arguments conclusions and decrees of the seventh ecumenical council in 787 called

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Nicaea to That council is considered

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Ecumenical by both the Eastern Orthodox Churches and by Roman Catholicism That council anathematized

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Anyone who would either positively say that icons and images are not to be venerated

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Not to be kissed Or teach anyone else the same thing so the the council said you have to do this

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This is not something you can be neutral on it's not something you go. I don't really care for it myself. No These have been given to the church as representations and the key arguments now, you know, they went to John Damascene and He Gives a lot of quotes from the early church that weren't

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Valid. I'm not saying he made them up but you have to understand that Very early on There was a lot of forgery going on if you want to get a book published you put somebody else's name on your book

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So Ignatius of Antioch was a big name. And so we have the genuine epistles of Ignatius Written at the beginning of the 2nd century and then you have a whole bunch of Pseudo Ignatian epistles

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You remember when Layton flowers got caught up in our debate in 2015 2016 on Romans 9 and he quotes from Clement and He identified it as being

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Clement of Rome hence late 1st century early 2nd century

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When he was actually talking about second Clement which came long after that completely different author So You you have but they the point is they use

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Clemens name to get the Clicks if what want to use modern terminology

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You know if you want to get your book copied and make some money off of it get clicks

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Then you use names of famous people so Melito of Sardis famous person and there's pseudo

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Melito and those modern designations

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Have only come after the Renaissance than the Reformation Where we've come to learn to recognize anachronism.

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This is one of the big problems. That's why Forgeries were so important the development of the papacy The Pseudo -Isidorean

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Decretals vital to the development of the papacy Majority of the citations they give early church writings are fraudulent.

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No one today defends them and It's not that people were stupid

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It's that people didn't have the perspective To be able to recognize anachronism when it was present in a text

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That was something that didn't develop with the Reformation Lorenzo Valla really in the West was one of the first people

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To really start developing that idea and it caught on pretty quickly as it needed to So the point is

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John Damascus is using lots of forged citations and his primary biblical

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Argumentation remember this becomes without this you don't have second Nicaea without this you do not have iconography

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You do not have you have iconoclasm not iconophilia You you don't have the practice of Eastern Orthodoxy today without John Damascus's defense of the veneration of icons

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And what was all of that based on it was based on the fact that he didn't know Hebrew Almost nobody at the time did in fact there are only a few early church fathers

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That were proficient in both Greek and Hebrew That doesn't make you that doesn't mean that you're going to handle the languages right, but it at least gives you all the data and Jerome was one of them and John of Damascus was the one who really

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Popularized I'm not gonna say he developed it, but he certainly Put the finishing touches on the argument that there is a difference between Veneration and worship that you can venerate an image without worshiping the image

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You can bow to an image. You can kiss an image. You can light candles to an image without worshiping it and This was based upon it.

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It's called proskune isis from the verbal form is proskune. Oh and in the

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New Testament you can proskune oh a human being So certain

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Roman centurions are proskune owed Okay, you bow down in front of a human being

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But it's not a religious context. It's a military con in Revelation chapter 19 when

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John tries to proskune. Oh the angel was the angel say don't

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Do that worship only God so clearly There is a context

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Where proskune. Oh is full -on worship When the disciples saw

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Jesus after his resurrection, they bowed down they worshipped him proskune. Oh now there's another term

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Latruo and Latruo is normally used of worship in the temple highest form of worship.

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So in Daniel chapter 7 when The Son of Man appears for the

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Ancient of Days He's given a people and they Latruo him Now here's here's the point both

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Latruo and proskune. Oh are Used to translate the one Hebrew term aha, which means to worship or serve

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So if you ask the question does this Ironclad distinction exists biblically between veneration and worship

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If you start with the original language given to us the language that God gave us his law in biblical

01:00:05

Hebrew No only the context determines that and so you can

01:00:15

Worship and Serve in a religious context or a non -religious context, but you are to worship and serve

01:00:22

God In the religious context only

01:00:28

So a have is only to be given to God in any religious context anything else is idolatry and you tell me that when someone holds that icon up and Kisses it and prays to it and lights candles to it.

01:00:42

That's not a religious context. Of course it is hence It's idolatry period end of discussion the entirety of John Damascene's Damascene's argument is invalid

01:00:55

Biblically now if you're not a Roman Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox and you're arguing that well, good luck.

01:01:03

You have fun now But that's the truth that's the reality and that's the cost of having lost

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Hebrew in Fact I've told the story before but At the time of the

01:01:20

Reformation it was dangerous to learn Hebrew Johannes, Reuchlin Interesting fellow got into some weird

01:01:30

Numerology stuff and things like that Sorry, I went long here. Oh, that's alright rich.

01:01:36

We'll try to wrap up here fairly soon Johannes, Reuchlin risked his life to learn biblical

01:01:46

Hebrew and The Reformers Were dependent upon work that he did in producing a

01:01:59

Hebrew grammar See if he had been caught meeting with a rabbi studying

01:02:04

Hebrew he would have burned the stake And burned at the stake in those days learning the language of the

01:02:11

Greeks. They were heretics. You could have been burned for that and so Hebrew was just Was unknown by the vast majority of people now very quickly

01:02:25

The Reform the Reformation started changing that and Hebrew began to be studied and it became a part of the regular

01:02:32

Curriculum of biblical studies and and so a lot of the errors that had developed really starting by the third century

01:02:42

That were based upon an ignorance of Hebrew Began to be corrected and That has been wonderfully helpful in providing accurate translations understanding of Cognate terms and and all sorts of things like that Since that has taken place

01:03:02

So There's the connection that loss of Hebrew allowed the development of a completely anti biblical and idolatrous tradition that was

01:03:17

Formalized by John of Damascus and became the foundation of the anathemas of the

01:03:25

Seventh Ecumenical Council and Became definitional of the religious worship of Eastern Orthodoxy to this day

01:03:38

To this day And it came from ignorance of Hebrew now, it's very obvious Corey Mahler couldn't identify a

01:03:45

Hebrew word for walked up and slapped him to face He has no earthly idea what he's talking about and his ethnic animus against Jews is

01:03:56

Certainly a part of why he would actually identify The name Yahweh as a demon.

01:04:03

The man doesn't know what he's talking about. He is consumed in his self aggrandizing

01:04:10

Cultmanship but leaving that aside the rest of us need to realize wow, this is this is why we need no church history

01:04:18

This is why Sound Seminary educations will still

01:04:26

Emphasize the biblical languages both of them Over so much of the stuff that people have to take these days instead of actually becoming students the word they become students of something else current growth philosophies and things like them and Why when you look at the history of the

01:04:49

Reformation This was central you had to learn this stuff you had to know this you had to be able to deal with the biblical languages and What a blessing to be able to have them.

01:05:01

I mean, I have I have more biblical language material on my

01:05:13

Simply my phone Than almost any person possessed Only 50 years ago, it's a it's so Anyway got got distracted by by something there so that's why the biblical languages are important and That's why when

01:05:42

Corey Mahler goes God not only caused his word to be translated into Greek But he then went one step further and destroyed the

01:05:48

Hebrew language this man Again Joseph Smith very very similar

01:05:55

Would say just this wild crazy stuff, you know, Noah landed in North Carolina and the cart of Eden was in,

01:06:03

Missouri and Give these guys some more time just keep giving them rope and They're gonna absolutely positively hang themselves they really really are there's just there's no toys about it but for the

01:06:20

For the rest of us You know, God could not have been more clear. The scriptures are

01:06:26

Greek. Well, I have on this program many times said that it's vitally important to recognize the importance of The Greek translation of the

01:06:39

Old Testament in the history of the New Testament very very important But it doesn't change the fact that when

01:06:48

Jesus Read from the prophet Isaiah. He was reading from the Hebrew Scrolls not from the

01:06:55

Greek Septuagint and That remains the original language that God used to reveal his law and it was the

01:07:03

Gnostics who attempted to get rid of the Old Testament and Anything that said anything positive about the

01:07:10

Jews in the New Testament? Corey Corey Mahler is a modern -day Gnostic and I say that as a person who's read a lot of Gnostic material

01:07:20

I've warned against people don't don't use the term Gnosticism unless you know what you're talking about. I know what

01:07:26

I'm talking about and That's where these guys are coming from They really are so keep that in mind as you run into this stuff warn people when you hear

01:07:35

Hey, did you hear the most most recent Stone Choir podcast? red flags everywhere warning

01:07:41

Gnosticism Run run from the Gnostic heretics

01:07:48

So All right couple other things here Yeah, you know

01:07:55

Wow, I still have two things I'll tell you what here's my thinking rich you've got

01:08:03

You've got travel coming up and that means that normally means you got a lot of stuff going on I know

01:08:10

I do Let's let's finish this stuff up today and and make it the program for the week

01:08:18

And if I need to respond to other stuff, I can record a audio.

01:08:25

I know how to Upload I've uploaded in the past or you can help me upload To some place that would get to everybody but we'll just call it good because Like I said rich goes out of town

01:08:38

Later in the week, and so we were going to be limited. Anyways, I didn't know what was going to happen with the I appointment and all that other kind of stuff and And so let's just I'm gonna press on here try to get this done and and Get all the topics in that we need to get to Two other three other three other topics real quick First of all was

01:09:05

Soteriology 101 late in flowers Responded to Baptist Bovink Baptist Bovink had pointed out that provisionalism as An actual system is like what ten years old some maybe around there something like that I forget the first person used the term, but it was not very long ago and Layton had responded

01:09:34

Only one of our belief system is only one of our belief. It should be systems

01:09:40

Okay only one of our belief systems is consistent with that of the first 400 years of Christian teachings and it isn't

01:09:46

Calvinism and And I Responded I think

01:09:52

I was at church. I responded. Oh Layton You really should avoid church history stuff you have

01:10:02

You know people start off with a low amount of credibility in church history to begin with and you've you've burned yours up you

01:10:09

You confused first and second Clement in our debate and then tried to fight that Against the obvious reality that you would just face planted on it and then your your defense of Ken Wilson and his outrageously absurd stuff

01:10:30

Has you know finished that off? so as I've explained so many times before and Layton you just you just do not have the background to be even addressing this.

01:10:41

You just don't just admit it Calvinism Arminianism provisionalism all this stuff was not the focus of The writings of the early church.

01:10:56

Oh, you can look at this person and go well, you know He uses this phrase geology uses that phrase geology.

01:11:02

You can you can try to Construct as Best you can a general

01:11:12

Idea of where various people were but it's that was not what they were focused on There were no councils that met that talked about this stuff not until Council of orange.

01:11:21

It's not until Pelagianism and and Augustine and all the stuff that comes at that particular point in time which is developing in the context of All the controversies of the church to follow the

01:11:37

Western Empire All that kind of stuff You can start talking about at that point but By then you're getting well past any kind of apostolic period there's all sorts of One of the biggest things that developed has developed by that point that has massive impact

01:12:00

Across Christian theology That that impacts the the ecumenical councils and the development of Marian theology and adoration and Mariolatry is the rise of the monastic movement the

01:12:22

Desert Fathers monks become central and look

01:12:28

Men who are in a traditional system that is

01:12:34

Specifically in opposition to biblical teaching They're forbidding to marry

01:12:40

They are there they are Going well, well well beyond what the

01:12:46

Apostles ever envisioned Simon Stilotes is on his pillar over there and Being up on that pillar does not give you spiritual insight.

01:12:57

It really doesn't Um That's all there now and that's impacting

01:13:07

Exegesis and understanding and teaching and Leighton you just don't know anything about that stuff.

01:13:16

You just don't and So you say dumb stuff because you don't know what you're talking about.

01:13:22

Stop it a Lot of people do a lot of people do no question about it

01:13:29

But you just don't understand the development of theology and understand and it really it's scary

01:13:34

I I I would Really struggle to see you consistently defend solo scripture.

01:13:40

I really would I'm not sure how you pull it off But I just said hey, dude

01:13:46

Back away from that. That's that's not going to help you at all. You don't want to go there Then there was a meme and I don't think

01:13:53

I could pull it up fast enough to To display it for you, but there was a meme that someone put up and It had

01:14:04

John MacArthur The guy from Houston with the

01:14:12

What's his face? I'm trying to find it here. Yeah, I can't find it.

01:14:18

Um, John MacArthur Kenneth Copeland The smiley -tooth guy and then some

01:14:29

Joel Osteen Joel Osteen and then some Rainbow -frocked priestess chick.

01:14:36

Okay, there's a Catholic going so how's solo scriptura going for you or which one of these practices solo scripture something that and You know,

01:14:46

I just briefly Commented not there's only one person in this meme There's finally one person's mean even knows what solo scriptura is

01:14:54

I don't think Joel Osteen knows the solo scriptura is I Don't think I don't think

01:15:01

That you know the liberal priestess knows what solo scriptura is or would care about it Copeland are you kidding?

01:15:10

no idea and Copeland's constantly sitting there going and the Lord told me this and the

01:15:15

Lord told me that and have almost everything he's ever says has been complete lie Joel Osteen Is in no way shape or form limited by the canon to to God's revelation and the the the priestess lady

01:15:32

Doesn't believe God's spoken at all. So You know, I was just like There is only one person here who is literally seeking

01:15:43

To practice solo scriptura now, you can disagree with it. You can disagree him on his eschatology It's fine.

01:15:49

Most of us do but He's trying To practice solo scriptura, it's interesting.

01:15:56

There would be some today in the Super confessional reformed community

01:16:05

That would dismiss him would even dismiss him and Say that he's not solo scriptura, but solo scriptura.

01:16:13

I'll bet you they're I'll bet you if I did just a little bit of digging on that thread. I would have found somebody making that kind of argument

01:16:21

But I think it's important to understand Roman Catholics think that all Protestants believe in solo scriptura and believe you me

01:16:29

That is not the case That is not the case by a long long long long shot

01:16:38

So keep okay, hold on a second over pedo baptism, please

01:16:48

Did he did he did he what's that? Oh Okay, I'm sorry. I thought someone was commenting on what

01:16:54

I was saying right now and it was It you know, it really throws me off when someone comments on a tweet.

01:17:02

You wrote three months ago Cuz you're like, I don't don't even remember writing that, you know, you have to go back and go.

01:17:08

Oh, wow What 2023 what you know, how did you even run across that it really leads to people going?

01:17:16

I don't know what's going on here Anyway, sorry Philip you you completely threw me off there.

01:17:21

All right solo scriptura meme Stuff along those lines.

01:17:27

I think it's important to keep that keep that stuff in mind as well All right.

01:17:32

What's there to do to do to do? I Don't know

01:17:40

Yeah, I guess we've Covered most of that stuff there Yeah, yeah,

01:17:46

I think we did all right, there have been a few people who

01:17:56

I'm just Checking a few checking a few things here. I don't want to miss anything. It's going going on here.

01:18:02

I haven't seen anything else All right. Well, I guess Did it today get all the

01:18:08

Corey Mahler stuff Yahweh John and Damascus icons a triology 101

01:18:15

And solo scriptura, I think we're pretty well covered there So as it looks right now

01:18:25

Next program will probably be a week from Tuesday We'll see, you know if if some emergency thing came up I Would imagine rich could probably do what he's doing right now

01:18:44

Maybe on the road. I don't want to make him do that. But I mean I can do it from here with a little bit of Help.

01:18:52

See I've got to see you can see it right there. There's this is an ATEM kids This is an

01:18:57

ATEM mini mini Pro and that's what I have in the RV when

01:19:03

I'm traveling as well and Richard's just telling me today that The place where we have it right now where it's they're working on repair stuff

01:19:15

Has found an inverter that will work for our unit. That's more powerful than what we've got right now We were having some electrical issues

01:19:22

You know, I'd get out there in the morning to retract the the struts and it would say low voltage and That's not supposed to happen if it's plugged into shore power those batteries should be

01:19:35

Juiced up and ready to go first thing in the morning, but we're having problems and so we're gonna have some new stuff going

01:19:42

I'm really looking forward to getting back there on the road as soon as I have The specifics now, there's already been an announcement made that on that I'll be in Conway Arkansas to speak at the seminary on Monday and Tuesday night.

01:20:03

I'm I don't think that the one is open I'm not sure if they're both open or you have to have to call the seminary.

01:20:10

I don't think they are But I should be there the 24th and 25th of February and that means

01:20:20

I'll be in Jonesboro 27th through the 2nd of February and we are trying to set up we have one debate pretty much confirmed

01:20:33

For the 28th of the 1st. I'm not sure which one those two and then Jeremiah Nortier and I are supposed are trying to Do find somebody to do a two -on -two debate, but we're struggling with that right now we're gonna keep

01:20:48

Keep working. He works hard and pushes on stuff We're gonna try to do two debates on the 28th and the 1st and then

01:20:54

I'll be preaching at 12 five Church on the 2nd of March Lord willing

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And my eyeballs don't fall on my head and you know all that kind of stuff going on so that will be that will be coming up and after today's

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Medical exam that's looking more likely to happen, which I'm very thankful for.

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So anyways, I hope all that information was Helpful. Oh, oh

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That was the other thing That's that was the other thing, okay Where did that come from?

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Oh I knew I had forgotten to bring something up There was a

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Forget who sent it to me I'll just I'll just be brief on this because I was already wrapping everything up there rich probably started the music or something

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Let me just I'll just be very straightforward here I asked the question

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Do the elders of whatever church it is that JD Hall is attending know That he has gone back to doing what he was doing only a few years ago

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Those who don't know JD Hall founded Protestia pulpit and pen When I first met him years ago up in Montana for the first time he was just a

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Southern Baptist pastor and Concerned about what was going on the Southern Baptist Convention and Then he just swung out into outer space the stuff that he did for years with pulpit and pen the

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Literally Calling family members up calling children up to try to get dirt on their parents and Promising to burn ministries to the ground and just Just daily and weekly haranguing of the brethren

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The man had no control and Eventually it caught up with him.

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He was sued by numerous people lost He eventually

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Blamed everything on drugs. He had had some type of surgery got hooked on a prescription drug

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The pain meds and it was it was all do that and a couple years ago He was removed from the pastorate and disqualified and and basically left public ministry as he had to should have

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And for a lot of us it was like thank you Lord The the the constant

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Haranguing and and stuff has finally come to an end the man who said I'll burn everybody else down has burned himself down We all saw it coming.

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We all knew it was just getting the spin was getting tighter and tighter and eventually was gonna implode

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And it didn't we figured okay, and I saw something. I don't know 18 months about no about six months ago

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Get an interview, but it still seemed to me like hey I'm out here on my farm

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I'm happy here. This is where Lord need me to be and I'm like good stay there well he's back and Nothing's changed

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There's still no breaks, there's still no Ability to it's still the he still has the same attitude that He can read hearts from afar.

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He can come to conclusions about situations about which is completely ignorant he has some special spiritual ability that nobody else has and He's back to it.

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I'm one already one of his favorite targets to attack me nothing new there

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It's sad I It's it's amazing the people that are promoting him don't seem to know what his history is and then again

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There's certain elements that history that there's no reason that they would know because it was just so Such a violation of foundational biblical principles of what you should and shouldn't be doing

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And so I simply asked the question What church? Knowing what this man's history is now, maybe they don't know maybe they only know a part of it

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Maybe they only know what he's told. I don't know But I will say to them whoever they are

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This man is not qualified to be doing what he's doing He will self -destruct

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He will do a tremendous amount of damage and he will damage you as well Your church you better believe it you had better believe it.

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I don't know what you're thinking but doing this kind of stuff is what got him into the situation that that he crashed and burned in and brought so much disrepute to the name of Christ and to Discernment ministry polemics ministry, whatever you want to call it

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He's He's right back where he was what do you guys know this have you given him permission to do this

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I Just cannot imagine any sound group of elders

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Knowing what I know, and I don't know all of it, but knowing what I know going Hey, yeah, you go right back at it

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You start throwing those fire bombs at people and you just you know, you you go ahead and do all that stuff

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Be nice to know be nice to know if they know and if they approve it

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That's a sad thing because they need to realize you got a ticking time bomb on your hands and Evidently two years off didn't stop any of it.

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It's it's a shame. Okay, that was the other thing All right.

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Oh, we are wrapped up. Well, look at that come right up on two o 'clock our time. That's just about right

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Almost a perfect 90 minutes. That'll do it and Obviously if there's other stuff we need to address we will let you know on the app

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And maybe figure out a way to do it on my own I've done it before we can make it work again till then at least till next