Should You Always Comfort A Crying Baby?

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Welcome to Bible Bash, where we aim to equip the saints for the works of ministry by answering the questions you're not allowed to ask. We're your hosts, Harrison Kerrig and Pastor Tim Mullett, and today we'll seek to answer the age-old question, should you always comfort a crying baby?

Tim, this is definitely one that I myself have had to really wrestle through the answer over the last, I guess, two years or so, because that's when I had my first, when I had my first daughter was, she just turned two right at the end of last year, and there's definitely, it's obviously a big life change in a lot of different ways, and it can be pretty chaotic, especially if you and your wife are not on the same page.

That wasn't necessarily the case with my wife and I, but then I know that that is a pretty common thing to not really have talked through a lot of what it means to actually, your family, to be more than just you and your spouse anymore, right?

And a lot of people This is a male-female fight that normally goes on in most marriages, and we, considering that we're men, we're uniquely qualified to speak to this issue.

We're uniquely gifted to give our specific insight, and so you need to listen to it and respect it, that's right. That's right.

Well, you know I mean, I say that, but most people would dismiss us completely.

Oh, yeah, like, oh, you're a man, you don't know the first thing about taking care of a baby. Yeah, that's right. But the reality is, it is a pretty big point of contention for a lot of couples, especially just because, honestly, I mean, in a lot of ways, it is really hard to anticipate all of the ways your life is going to change when you have your first child.

Now, when you have the second and the third one, I guess I can't speak to the third one from personal experience, but I've at least had a second one. It gets easier. It feels like it gets a lot easier because you've kind of already been through the process in a lot of ways, and a lot of the decisions were hopefully made with the first baby, so with the second one, ideally, it should be a lot easier, at least in terms of communicating with your spouse on it.

But then one of the issues that a lot of married couples run into when it comes to having children is this idea of, I mean, here's the reality. The baby's gonna cry, and the baby's gonna cry a lot because the baby can't communicate in any other way besides crying, especially newborns, right?

They don't have any other way of communicating, and so they just cry for everything all the time. And it's not like our crying. It's like a, you know Ear-splitting, banshee scream. Yeah, it is sometimes likened to a banshee scream.

And crying, baby's crying is kind of this thing that it seems like our society frowns upon. So if you're out in public and your baby starts crying, the temptation is to immediately think, oh, everyone's like, number one, everyone is now inconvenienced by my baby who is crying.

And number two, they think I'm a bad parent because my baby's crying, right? And so I need to respond knowing that now I have inconvenienced everyone and they think I'm a terrible parent because my baby's crying in public.

That's a common thought that a lot of people have, and they feel like, oh, I've got to do whatever it takes to get this baby to shut up because everyone is looking at me. So all that being said, it's this big point of contention.

There are very real decisions that have to be made in terms of how do we actually respond to our baby when they cry. And I know you ran a Twitter poll on this, and you asking this question, basically, what should you do, right?

And so tell us a little bit about what the responses were with that poll and what some of the answers we got were.

Yeah, well, I think a lot of our audience is male, so I think the poll, or our followers are male, so I think the poll kind of ran its course somewhat along general lines, but not really. I mean, I think you got more, it's okay to strategically let your baby cry than not, the responses on that, but then the ones that were not were pretty, they were what you can imagine in terms of they were pretty unreasonable kind of responses in general.

Meaning there is a type of, mostly it's a type of lady, like there's a type of lady who has basically made it her goal, like her mission that you always comfort a crying baby. And most women are not absolutely consistent with that as a rule, because it really does get pretty unwieldy really quickly if you have a rule that you always comfort a crying baby.

Most women are blessedly not perfectly consistent on that, but if they try, they will drive everyone crazy in the household. Like themselves, they'll drive themselves crazy, they'll be at their husband's throat and their husband will be at their throat, and then the baby is just kind of, you can kind of turn a baby into a clingy kind of monster at that point where there's no brakes on this thing at all.

And then not only that, I mean, your house just can go to, basically you could be eating fast food for the first couple of years of your life. Every time you, because you make it this demand that I always have to comfort a crying baby and life happens.

So as far as that goes though, I think there is a type of, mostly that's kind of a lady response to go there with it and to clamp down with an iron knuckle grip. And then if you push back on it at all, there's kind of like this, you're a literally abusive parent kind of thing.

Naturally, yeah, of course. You just hate, you're just an incompetent man who, but mostly, like what's happening though in most relationships is that the man, because men are geared to be tough, like courageous and tough, and they don't have quite the level of sensitivity as a woman.

And that's a little bit of an understatement. What's normally happening is the man is wanting the baby to kind of grow up and have the skin of a rhinoceros, two months old kind of thing. So he's trying to mold that baby into a rock of unyielding granite.

But then what's happening on the other end is like lady sees baby and baby is crying because lady is compassionate. Lady, typically women much more struggle.

They can't turn it out as well as men. Yeah, and I think they're a lot more tempted to get frazzled.

Get frazzled, they can't turn it out, like they get frazzled. But then they just, like they're made to be nurturing and caring, and I think there's just this sense in which baby is crying, you need to fix it, you need to nurture the thing.

And this can get pretty extreme to where your babies are sleeping in your bed like with you and your husband, in between you two for years of your life because the mom doesn't know how to say no to the baby.

So you can get kind of, if the mom's compassion and sensitivity, if there's no check on it, you can imagine how we got where we were in COVID because you had feminine impulse of sensitivity and compassion with no check.

And then on the other end of it, you have the man, if he's left to his own end, he's going to turn his babies into Spartans who are fully capable of sword combat by the age of six months.

But then That would be, honestly, that would be impressive at six months. That would be. That would be pretty scary.

Who have basically successfully tamed all of their emotions by then at that point. But it's just, I think what you need is you need both shock, scandal, and awe. Like you do need both sexes here to, they're both pushing in different directions and you need both of those kind of impulses in order to really have a health, like a good parenting strategy.

If you only have the mom input, it's going to go a certain way. If you only have the dad input, it's going to go another way. And you really do need both in order to do this well. So in order to handle crying babies, you need both men and women impulses on that, or else you're just going to, you're going to go in one of two ditches basically.

Okay. And most people can't handle hearing that you need the dad impulse because despite the fact that we've overturned the patriarchy, most people still think that infants are the province of women, which they are.

But then the thing is, you just need both impulses in order to do it well.

Okay, so the title question is, should you always comfort a crying baby? So what is your response specifically to that question? Yes or no? No.

No? Okay. I mean, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

It sounds pretty exhausting. I mean, it's literally,.

Like there's no way to do it, man. So if you're going to do, I mean, some babies are really easy and you may be able to pull it off, okay? Yeah. But some babies are real hard. And like, if you try to do that plan, you're going to make everyone miserable.

Yourself, the baby, your husband. There are inconsolable clingy babies out there who will make your life miserable. You know, so, and I mean, there are moms who try to do this kind of thing where, and you know, basically they're eating out like for a year.

They haven't bathed in months, you know, because the baby, they can't ever get the baby to stop crying, you know, but you have to have some place to say, hey, I have to clean my house. I have to, I have other kids to feed, right?

I can't just order fast food every meal, right? Right. I have other kids to feed, so I'm going to have to

Your other kids are going to turn into fat little chicken McNuggets.

Right, and that's where like this, like a baby is, like, you know, I brought up the concept of like, no, like you shouldn't, or should you strategically let a baby cry? Yes, like child-centered home equals bad is kind of what I said, but like, I had like, you know, people on there basically saying that there's no such thing as a child-centered home.

That's just an abusive term that people use to subhuman, like to turn the babies into like, or to dehumanize their babies or whatever. And it's just like, no, I mean, you have to have some category for it.

Like a child-centered home is a real category that you have to acknowledge actually exist. Like meaning, like, I mean, let's say you have three kids and the other kids have to eat and the baby's crying.

What are you going to do? Do you accept upon yourself this moral obligation that whenever the baby is crying, you have to figure out what to do? Or are you gonna feed the rest of your family, right? And so sometimes like love for your family means that you have to say no to baby.

And I'm sorry, like, it's just the way it works, you know? So I think like when babies are Gotta let that sucker cry, huh? I mean, it's either that or, you know, you better be made of money because you're gonna be eating out every meal, you know, and everyone's gonna get fat, you know?

So like the thing is, like, there's more commands that God has given us than one. And what's happening here is that this one command is taking over life, right? And I think there's certainly a place for like the baby crying, taking over, like taking a very big place.

I mean, particularly like before they're sturdy, you know? Like in the first few months, like when they're... But I mean, you know, honestly, like during the early months they just sleep all the time anyways, you know?

So They do. They sleep a lot. They sleep all the time, they don't move, they don't do hardly anything. I mean, yeah, I mean, it feels like you're constantly doing stuff because every couple hours you're feeding them for 30 minutes or something.

But then for the other hour and a half, they're sleeping, you know, that's the way it typically works. So, but I mean, so when they're young like that, yeah, I think you need, like everything can be put on hold.

Everyone can wait, you know, for your 30 minutes until the baby passes out again. Whatever, fine, like everyone can, you know, life can revolve more around baby for a little bit. But once they get sturdy, you know, once they're sitting up, once they're starting to get mobile, once they can hold their head up without doing all this stuff, you know, the bobblehead stuff, like at a certain point, it's just like, you're gonna have to be okay.

You're changed, you're fed, right? You're changed, you're fed, you're not sick. And I gotta take a shower, okay? You know, I haven't taken a shower in three days. I have to take a shower. You're changed, you're fed, you're not sick.

You're not hurt. You're not hurt. Like, you're gonna have to be okay because I have to cook your brother and sister food because I can't keep on buying McDonald's every meal, you know, so you're gonna have to be okay.

You're gonna, you know, you're gonna have to be fine. Like, you know, unless you just have like no standard of homemaking whatsoever that you're shooting for. And, you know, basically you've chucked everything that it means to be like a homemaker.

You know, you've reduced it to basically a baby comforter. Like, there are other things in life that you have to take care of. And so, baby's gonna have to learn to be okay sometimes, for sure.

So, if the baby starts crying and you leave the baby, are you a failure as a parent if you let them cry? This is assuming like they're not hurt, you know, they're nothing like that. They're just crying because they're a baby.

Are you a failure?

A lot of moms feel like that, you know?

No, no, I mean, I'm asking it kind of, you know, like I'm obviously making a bit of a joke out of the question, but the reality is a lot of people feel that way. And I think there's even pressure from, you know, from just society in general to like, and there's an expectation that you almost kind of feel like you are a failure if your baby cries, especially if you're in public.

Yeah, yeah, right. So, I mean, I think you're, depending on what we're talking about, you know, I think the first few months of, you know, baby's life, they require a lot more attention and time and, you know, I think

It's just real sporadic, right? Yeah, it's just real sporadic. But I think the more that you're, the more sturdy they get, you know. I think around six months, like six months to eight months, like right around that range, you should be able to tell the difference between different types of cries, right?

Yeah. Like, you know, at that point, like the baby should be able to like not have to be constantly attached to your person, you know, every single moment in order to be okay, you know? And if you're allowing that, you're, you know, you're doing the baby a little bit of a disservice.

And so I think what people hear is like, if the baby's crying, like their mind instantaneously goes to the idea of just let the baby cry, like cry it out kind of thing, right? So just like, so what you're saying is just let the baby cry for three hours in a row and, you know, because you want to be on your phone or something like that, right?

And I would say, if that's why you're letting the baby cry for three hours so that you can be on your phone, then yeah, you're a bad parent, okay? You're a bad parent, yes. And you failed, yeah, sure.

So like the point of what we're talking about is not like letting the baby cry just so you can be selfish, right?

Yeah, not neglecting them.

Yeah, so that's not what we're talking about. But I mean, there are things you're called to do besides comfort a baby. And the more that you, like they move beyond like a newborn phase, like you are having to transition away from like, like you get all of the attention, the attention in the home to now you're going to have to take a more reasonable spot of attention here, right?

And then, you know, by the time you're one years old or whatever, it's like, you got to exercise a little more independence than you did when you were, you know, two weeks old here, you know? So like the issue though is that like, yes, I think if you're just like ignoring your baby, like, you know, men do this more than women, but like, you know, if I can, like if a man is in charge of the baby and, you know, he'll, you know, have something he wants to do, whether looking at his phone or the TV or whatever, some game or whatever, you know, and the wife is asking him to watch the baby and, you know, he's like, all right, tries to comfort him for, you know, 30 seconds in a rushed way.

It's like, oh, not working, right? Just put him on the ground, just let him scream, you know, or put him in the crib and let him scream so that he can get back to the other thing. I think that's just being a bad parent, you know?

Like, I think you make a real effort to try to comfort the baby is, but then you have other things that you have to do, you know, and so I think that you have to be able to make distinctions between like letting a baby cry for 15 minutes while you make lunch for the family, you know, like letting the baby cry for 15 minutes so you can take a shower kind of thing, you know, and then you check on them to make sure they're okay, you know, like, mommy loves you, daddy loves you, you know, you're gonna have to be okay for a few minutes, rub their head, you know, all right, we have other things we have to do, you know, and then, like, I think there's strategic times where you just, like, practically, if you're gonna do everything God's called you to do without, like, hiring a live-in nanny or a maid or something like that, like, you're gonna have to, like, the baby's gonna have to be okay for 15 minutes at a time or, you know, I mean, there are times where, like, babies are just completely inconsolable and they're screaming at you, you're trying to get them to be comforted, there's nothing you're doing that's working, they're grabbing your skin and hitting you and mad, you know, and at a certain point, like, I think both men and women need to, like, if you're starting to get frustrated, you go put the baby down, you know, put the baby down, you, like, shut the door, take a deep breath, you know, go pray for a few minutes, come back and try again, you know, in another 15 minutes, but everyone has to have some sort of category for letting the baby cry for a few minutes and, you know, and trying again, and if they're just completely inconsolable, then, like, that may be your routine for a little bit, but.

It feels like, it feels like you've got some kind of distinction in your mind between basically, like, a newborn all the way up to, you know, give or take, like, six months or something like that. Maybe that's not where you wanna put the distinction exactly but it seems like you're making a distinction between, like, that newborn, you know, infant baby kind of stage and then the more, like, you know, grown-up baby kind of stage, like, six months to, like, a year, maybe, where you're treating the crying of those two types of babies differently.

That's just the impression I'm getting listening to you. So is that the case? Like, are you saying, you know, hey, when they're a newborn, when they're a baby, you go to them when they're crying but then that's different when they, you know, when they're able to sort of move around on their own and prop themselves up and whatnot.

Is that what you're saying or are you saying, no, actually, you treat them the same way, it's just, you know, infant babies are more sporadic and, you know, because they need to eat every two hours, basically, and they eat for about, yeah, like, you know, maybe 15 minutes at the very least and 30 minutes at the most.

So what exactly are you saying there? Are there two categories where you do treat them differently or are they only treated different in terms of the frequency at which they need certain things?

Yeah, I mean, obviously, like, you know, like, a little baby comes out of the mother's womb very dependent and unable to do anything for itself whatsoever, right? So, like, it just sits there. It can't even hold its neck up, right?

Like, meaning, like, you know, if you were to take a little one-month-old baby and put it on its stomach and its face is, like, buried into the sheet or something, it's not gonna be able to move.

Yeah, and the baby, I mean, would probably die, you know?

Yeah, so, like, what you're talking about, you're talking about something very helpless, you know, at that point, and then at a certain point, yeah, obviously, like, by the time they're three years old or two years old, right, by the time they're two years old, if you're still carrying them around in a...

Right, yeah. Like, a little carrying a sack or whatever, everywhere you go.

You're letting them down as a parent.

You've let them down. I mean, so, meaning, like, they should, you know, they obviously, they're transitioning from, like, completely helpless to, then, like, they go through the different stages, right, where they can crawl and they can move and they can walk, and, you know, all of our kids now, basically, are, most of our kids right now, we have five, are, they're almost all kind of self-sufficient in certain ways, right?

I mean, you still have to kind of get, I mean, they can open the refrigerator up and grab their drink bottle and things like that now. I mean, not, like, baby bottle bottle, but, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah. Like, so, most of them are, like, they can all use the bathroom themselves, okay? Uh-huh. And, you know, kind of care for their basic kind of needs at this point. So, we're kind of at that point in parenting.

But, so, the issue, then, is just, like, how quickly are you going from, like, a completely helpless little baby into a, like, you gotta be okay for a little bit kind of thing. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah.

So, I mean, I think with a newborn, like, I think the mom's impulses are going to be just off the charts. Like, nurture, baby's crying, figure out what's wrong. And a lot of times, it's hard to know at first, right?

Yeah. It's a lot more confusing, but then

It's kind of like trial and error, and then you hope something works.

Now, once you have a few, you get it down to where it's not nearly as mysterious anymore, right? What's going on? Like, so, even when they're younger. But, you know, what I'm basically trying to say, though, is that, like, when they're really helpless and really young like that, and they're screaming, and, like, they don't have a lot of impulse control, they don't have, like, you have lower expectations for them, but then there's still kind of a place, even when they're young like that, to say, hey, I've fed you, and I gotta step away for 10 minutes here to feed the rest of your family so they don't die, right?

Yeah. And, like, so, like, let's say you have a really colicky baby who's crying all the time. There's still kind of categories to do the kind of things I'm saying, but I think, Tip, but what I'm trying to say is, like, you, like, you are growing in kind of a, like, if at one year's old, you're still carrying that baby around everywhere you go because they're inconsolable without mom, and, like, you're doing something wrong, okay?

Like, so what you need to be doing is, like, the heavier they're getting, the more stable they're getting, the more they're, like, more mobile they're getting and all that, like, they do have to learn to, like, be okay.

It's, like, this is a project to teach them to be okay and not have to be joined to the mom nonstop, okay? Yeah. It's just a matter of how long does that take, right? And so, I mean, it may be that, like, as a little baby, you carry them around in a swing, like in a sling or whatever, and they're comforted that way, and you can get things done, and you can do that, but, I mean, once you're getting around six months or, you know, seven months, you should have, the baby should not be glued to your hip everywhere you go.

They have to be okay, you know? So, now, I mean, those are arbitrary numbers. I mean, those are, they're not completely arbitrary numbers, but I'm not, like, sold on the numbers. I'm just saying, once you start having a baby who's heavy, you know?

Yeah. And gonna give you back problems and, like, is interfering with what you're doing, you know, at some point, you have other things that God's called you to do besides just tote a baby around everywhere you go.

Yeah, especially when you start thinking about you're getting into the, you know, like the eight month, you know, around eight months or so, you're starting to get back into, like, the, I could be pregnant at any moment here, you know?

Right. And so, trying to tote around, essentially,.

Two babies at that point. Yeah, I mean, if you wanna give yourself back problems and permanently and all that, like, at some point, you just have to say, hey, but I think you should be training your baby all along the way just to be okay, you know?

To not just have to, like, I always think it's, like, I always thought it was a problem as a, like, a husband when the baby never wanted me and only wanted mom. Like, I would declare war on that. I would say, no, we're gonna, I'm gonna get you used to me, you know?

And we're gonna, like, you can cry at me all you want. You know, I'll figure you out, you know? That kind of thing. I'll break you, you know? Like, I'll break your stubborn will. You'll learn to like me, you know?

But I wasn't content with just, like, I wanted to be helpful, like, and give my wife a break. And I mean, I like babies too, so whatever, you know? So I wasn't content with just, like, let her deal with it kind of thing.

It's like, no, I want you to not have to be dependent on mom everywhere you go in order to be okay. Like, and you need to learn to get used to other people and I'm another person you need to get used to, you know?

And so, but yeah, it's part of it.

So, oh, did you have more you wanted to say?

No, I'm basically just saying, I just think the more sturdy they're getting, the more, like around that six, you know, you know, around that six month kind of area, they're sturdy, they're stable.

Starting to become a little more independent.

Yeah, and you, you know, they have to learn that they can't be, you know, attached to mom all the time. I mean, they're just, they're a sinner too, you know, just like everyone else.

So basically, the long and short of it is, you know, at every stage, there needs to be some sort of like, okay, you've just got to cry for now. You know, it just, it might look different in terms of, you know, how long you let them cry, you know, how often you check them.

Yeah, those kinds of things, right? And it's hard to, in one sense, it is kind of hard to nail down, like here's exactly what you do at this exact stage just because all babies are different in terms of how they develop anyways.

So it's hard to give like a full-on blanket statement that perfectly fits every single scenario.

Right, so what you have in the background of this discussion is like the baby wise kind of discussion where you have books that are basically training the baby to sleep train, you know, and so they promise that the baby will be able to sleep through the night in the first few weeks of like infancy or whatever.

And so, and then what it's happening is you're letting the baby cry for long periods of time in order to kind of get them used to crying it out, right? And so what's happening is that there's a lot of moms who viscerally react against like that baby wise approach.

And like, and then when everything that we're talking about, they're hearing through that lens, basically, of like cry it out for three hours kind of thing where we're talking about like stepping away for 15 minutes.

Right, yeah. And yeah, coming back and just checking on to make sure they're okay. And so not just neglectful hours, but so there's like that approach. And then there's a lot of, you know, moms who are tying that to biology basically and saying, hey, that's very unhealthy for them to be sleeping through the night that early because they need to eat every few hours, all that.

So you have that kind of discussion that's live in this, you know, and I don't, there's people who obviously have done that and they didn't kill their babies, right? Sure, yeah. I can, it worked, you know, there's a guy on Twitter who basically said that he was a single parent and, because his wife had died and he was, you know, he had the newborn baby and, you know, by the time like he had resisted like letting the baby cry it out until he was about a year old or whatever, the baby was about a year old.

And at that point he was just getting so little sleep and he had to work and he had all this stuff, you know, he was like, all right, I'm done, you know? So you're gonna cry it out, you know? And so, you know, at the year mark, like he said the first night, the baby cried for like two and a half hours.

The second night, the baby cried for an hour and a half. And then the third night, the baby slept through the night. You know? And so he took his stand, you know, he made it, you know, and I think that like

And the Lord delivered him, huh? Yeah, the Lord delivered him. And I think that like there has to be some kind of sanity introduced into this discussion along those lines where like there is a place to make a stand at some point, you know, to where

You gotta pull the helms deep on them. Yeah, yeah, and I don't know that like, you know, if you don't have any category for doing it at a year, you know, then you're way too hyper, you know?

Yeah, I mean, I guess it makes sense to say, you know, like as a newborn, you can't, you can't let them sleep through the entire night. I mean, I remember the doctors would tell us, you know, if the baby doesn't wake up after like two hours since their last feeding or what, I can't remember the number exactly.

Wake them up and feed them because they have to eat. So I understand that, but then

I think, I will tell you, I will tell you, I'm not taking us, we didn't do the baby wise thing. Okay. We didn't. I know a lot of couples who did, particularly in seminary, they did it. And I'm not throwing stones at them.

You know, I think a lot of women like react really like bolsey red kind of at that approach. But I mean, it worked for a lot of people, you know, and it wasn't what they thought, you know? So I'm not, we didn't actually do that ourself, but then I don't, we didn't religiously wake our baby up every two hours either.

We kind of just, like what we did with our five kids practically was we just, if they started crying, we would, you know, Elizabeth would go feed them. But then, and I would tell men, don't feed your baby at night.

So I didn't know, we're not talking about that. Men specifically? Is that what you're getting at? That's stupid. Yeah. That's just stupid. You know, like you have a job that you have to go to, you know, and if you're gonna go, if you're gonna make yourself like getting up every few hours at night, like you could lose your job because you're, you know, like this is something that God has called your wife to do.

Yeah. And she is, you know, she has the ability to stay at home and not operate, not be driving cars around. Yeah, there's different expectations.

And different responsibilities for it also. It makes more sense for the wife.

To be the one doing that, right? Yes, it does. So, but with our kids, we generally let them sleep as long as they want to sleep, give or take, you know, maybe when they're really small, we wake them up a little bit, you know, but the more that you do that, the more that you're sleep deprived and pretty soon you can't do it, you know?

You just let them, and once they cry, they, you have a baby monitor, they wake you up and you, you know, and I would encourage, you know, parents to not just have the baby in the room and definitely to, because it just, if you want everyone to not sleep for the first, you know, six months of your life, like, you know, there was points where we just like, okay, we got to get the baby out of here, okay?

Okay, we're going to go crazy. I'm evicting the baby. We have a baby monitor, we have to get the baby out of here or else, you know, I'm going to lose my job, okay? Kind of thing, and so like, so there's that, but anyways, I mean, like, I'm not throwing stones at anyone who goes like the baby wise approach or whatever, but, and I have not known any babies who died of it, you know?