Why Are Charismatics So Weird? Jesus Playing With Hair and Making Snowmen

Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Justin Peters. I hope that you and your family are doing well today.

I want to thank you so much for joining me for this podcast. This is the next installment on my ongoing series entitled

Why Are Charismatics So Weird? And today we're going to be looking at a lady named

Jenna Winston. Jenna Winston used to have addiction and mental health issues by her own admission.

She says that she got saved. More on that in just a minute. And she served for some time on the pastoral staff at Bethel Church.

This is the Bill Johnson Bethel Church, where Bethel Music comes from.

She was one of their pastors there. Of course, any time you find a church with a female pastor, you know you are dealing with a false church.

But she maintains a close relationship with Bethel. In fact, this is a screenshot of her appearing with Sean Bowles.

Sean Bowles also is there at Bethel and very close with Bill Johnson.

Sean Bowles is a fraud and a charlatan and a huckster to the nth degree.

And that will probably be a future video of mine. Trust me on this. He is a complete charlatan.

But anyway, she's a fairly well known in these circles. And she has a ministry now, quote unquote, ministry entitled

Heartscaping. I think she's kind of branched off on her own. But now she does Heartscaping and she can get to what ails you spiritually.

She says that she specializes in inner healing, prophetic deliverance, identifying and cultivating spiritual gifts and restoring your full identity.

Now, I don't know about you, but as a Christian, my identity is in Christ.

That's my full identity. I am a Christian. I belong to Christ. I don't need my identity to be restored fully or partially or otherwise.

It is in Christ and is in no need of any restoration.

I am safe and secure in the family of God by the merits of Christ, sealed by his Holy Spirit. So there's that.

But I don't know if you need prophetic deliverance or to have your identity restored or whatever that kind of mumbo -jumbo means, inner healing.

Then just contact Jenna Winston. Go to her website and you can book a session with her.

You can book a session with her, a 55 -minute session, and you can get it for the low, low price of $333 for 55 minutes.

And notice too that these individual sessions used to be $1 ,000 or at least that's what she says.

I don't know. Never booked one. But $1 ,000 for less than an hour with Jenna Winston, but at least now she's cut it down to $333 for less than an hour of her precious time.

She thinks very highly of herself. But if you think 55 minutes is just not enough with Jenna, then, well, you're in luck because she does retreats.

Apparently you can go on a full retreat somewhere. I don't know how that works exactly, but for about a two or three day retreat with Jenna, you can either do it yourself individually for $3 ,500 or if you are a couple, husband and wife,

I don't know, maybe boyfriend and girlfriend, who knows? For a couple, you can get it for $5 ,000 for a retreat with Jenna.

Now, I want to show you a clip from Jenna Winston.

And this is a clip in which she is talking about her own quote unquote deliverance from all kinds of demonic stuff, mental illness by her own admission.

She spent some time in some kind of a mental ward or something like that. It was just, you know, she was a mess and as you're about to see, still is a mess.

But watch this. And I mean no disrespect. Well, I don't respect her because she's lying.

But just watch this. Not long after I got there,

I ended up having this encounter. Well, no, I ended up having what I now know to be natural deliverance.

Okay, so much Jesus was going in. And all of a sudden, to me, it felt like I got connected to all of this rage.

And I started screaming and yelling and cussing and throwing stuff. And now I know it was actually the demons leaving.

And after it was after that happened, I literally, I've never experienced anything like it.

I was spiritually, mentally, emotionally, physically exhausted, like nothing left in me.

And I passed out on my bed. And that is when Jesus became real for me, because Jesus walked in there and laid in that bed with me and started to play with my hair.

And that is when Jesus became real for me, because Jesus walked in there and laid in that bed with me and started to play with my hair and...

Friends, that's just gross. That is, that's gross.

That is creepy. There are only two possibilities here. She is either flat out lying, or this woman is still just so messed up mentally that she is just under some serious, serious deception.

But there is no way, there's absolutely no way that this woman is converted.

I mean, her, I've watched some of her stuff, by the way, I've watched. It is absolutely painful. It is, it is profoundly unbiblical.

And dear ones, I say that she's not converted because this is supposedly her conversion story.

Notice that there's, there's nothing in here about sin, nothing in here about repentance, nothing in here about her realizing the gravity of her sin or a godly sorrow over sin.

Repent, no. Jesus became real to her when he crawled into bed with her and started playing with her hair.

That's not a conversion. Friends, that's gross. That is just gross.

Creepy in the extreme that Jesus crawled into bed with her and started playing with her hair.

I mean, for one thing, Jesus is, is sitting at the right hand of the Father right now. He's not on earth.

Sorry, not showing up your bedroom, playing a saxophone, Kevin Zaydi. He's not crawling into anybody's bed and playing with anybody's hair.

He's in heaven with the Father. So that, that is just profoundly unbiblical.

And I've watched a lot of her stuff. I say a lot, I've watched some of her stuff. It's just this nonsensical, endless stream of stories and feelings and emotions completely devoid of anything resembling any kind of biblical theology.

But that, that is a, I guess some have called it theo -eroticism, looking at God and or Jesus as in a romantic way.

And here's something that I've noticed, and maybe many of you have noticed too, and even Mia is, is upset.

This makes Mia uncomfortable. Sorry. Something that I've noticed with a lot of these popular female

Bible teachers, with rare exception, Jesus is their boyfriend.

They speak of Jesus in a very romanticized way. It's not just Jenna Winston.

I've heard many others do it. Not the least of which is Beth Moore. And Beth Moore has made some equally, maybe not quite that bizarre, but along the same vein.

In fact, let me show you this. This is from her book, When Godly People Do Ungodly Things.

Ironically, the subtitle is Arming Yourself in the Age of Seduction. But Beth Moore says this, she says,

I heard the voice of God speak to my heart, come and play. I love that he said, come, not go, come.

That meant he was already there, which she should have known from scripture.

But anyway, I also love how I could tell by the sweet tone of his silent voice.

I don't even know what that means. Sweet tone of a silent voice?

What is a silent voice? And if the voice is silent, how does it have a tone to it?

I don't know. Maybe I'm just not smart enough to figure this out. But I could tell by the sweet tone of his silent voice that he was smiling.

I could have outlined his expression with my finger. Ooh, I could have outlined his expression with my finger.

That's creepy. Then she says, I built a snowman. I laughed with God. He laughed with me. I am so in love with him.

I am so in love with him. If you've watched Beth Moore much at all, and even read much of her stuff, it's just a very, very emotionally based, emotionally driven, romanticized view of God and or Christ.

This is typical amongst a lot of popular female Bible teachers.

So anyway, now I've saved what may be, if you can believe it, even more disturbing than Jesus crawling into her bed and playing with her hair is what she says immediately after that.

Watch this. Instead of telling me all the things I needed to fix, he said,

I am so sorry for all the things that happened to you that made you not want to feel. Friends, that is heretical.

That's outright blasphemy to say that Jesus Christ would apologize to you.

The thrice holy sinless son of God apologizing? No, sir. No, ma 'am.

Not in a million lifetimes would that ever happen. And I'm going to show in a future video that this notion of Jesus apologizing, this is not a one -off with Bethel.

It's been said before, and I'm going to save that for a future video, a more expansive video that I'm going to do on Bethel music and Hillsong music.

But anyway, that's a little teaser. Maybe that's coming up. Don't be singing Bethel and Hillsong music in your churches, by the way.

And I'll just go ahead and tell you, I'm working on something and it's going to be definitive in my view, that there you can make no excuse.

There is no rational reason to ever, under any circumstances, ever sing

Bethel music or Hillsong music or Elevation music in your church. Anyway, I just kind of went off on a tangent.

I wouldn't plan on saying that, but that's coming up. But this notion of asking of Jesus, asking forgiveness or apologizing, it's not a one -off with Bethel.

And the difference between Beth Moore saying that she is so in love with Jesus, I'm so in love with him, going out and outlining the expression of his face with her finger, and she could tell by the sweet tone of his voice, he was smiling,

I'm so in love with him. The difference between Beth Moore and Jenna Winston, I don't think Beth Moore would ever say that Jesus ever crawled into her bed and started playing with her hair.

But the difference between Beth Moore and Jenna Winston is not a difference of substance.

It's only a difference of degree, but it's the same basic error. Once you take that charismatic position, then the sufficiency of scripture is out the window.

All right, dear ones, thank you very much for watching. Until our next time together, may the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the fellowship of his