November 22, 2019 Show with Geoff Thomas on “How Can I Please God in Everything?”

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And we are thrilled to have back for the second day in a row, Reverend Jeff Thomas, who, beginning in 1965, served for over 50 years as pastor at Alfred Place Baptist Church of Aberystwyth, Wales. And today we are going to be addressing his new booklet, published by Reformation Heritage Books, How Can I Please God in Everything?

And this is a part of Reformation Heritage Books' Cultivating Biblical Godliness series. And it's my honor and privilege and joy to welcome you back for the second day in a row, Reverend Jeff Thomas.

It's an honor to be here.

Amen. And for some reason, the clarity and crystal clearness of your phone connection is light years better than yesterday. I don't know why. Well, we did this yesterday, but there may be some who have tuned in to our interview for the first time and did not hear you yesterday.

Can you please let our listeners know something about Alfred Place Baptist Church of Aberystwyth, Wales, where you served for over 50 years as pastor?

Yes, and we're looking forward to that.

Yes, that's the Foundations Conference in New York City, Thursday and Friday, December 19th and 20th. And we will be giving you more details on that momentarily. But it is such a providential blessing to hear of your second marriage after your first wife went home to eternity with Christ.

This friend of yours, Barbara, has been a longtime friend, I understand, and she never married until she married you, which is quite remarkable. Well, if anybody is ever going to be either visiting Aberystwyth, Wales, or you have family, friends and loved ones near there, the website for Alfred Place Baptist Church is alfredplacechurch .org .uk.

Alfredplacechurch .org .uk. And I can tell, or perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain from your accent that you are not a native Welsh brother in Christ. You are from England, aren't you, originally?

No. Oh, so you are Welsh.

I'm Welsh, and I speak Welsh and preach in Welsh.

And now, which Westminster seminary did you attend?

Oh, Philadelphia.

Philadelphia.

Will Chantry and I were students together there.

The pastor of the church where I am now a member for 40 years before retiring. Yes, I'm a member of Grace Baptist Church here in Carlisle.

There we are. There we are.

I love to preach.

Now, how did you get a British accent from going to seminary in the United States? Okay, great. Well, the book that we are addressing today is How Can I Please God in Everything? And it's an interesting title because the booklet is a very brief booklet.

How can you fit everything in there? And I'm going to give our listeners our e-mail address right now. If you would like to join us on the air with a question of your own for Reverend Jeff Thomas, our e-mail address is ChrisArmsen at gmail .com, C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com.

Please give us your first name at least, your city and state of residence, and your country of residence if you live outside the U .S .A. Please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal or private matter.

And by the way, I want to thank you so much from the very depths of my heart, Reverend Thomas, for the wonderful commendation that you wrote for Iron Trip and Zion Radio, which is now proudly adorning my website in the commendations section, along with your photograph.

And it's a commendation I will certainly treasure as one of my most valuable commendations I have ever received, and so thorough and lengthy and just very heart-moving and so on. I just really thank you, and I can't thank you enough.

Amen. Thank you so much.

Assurance, Legalism, and Perseverance of the Saints

One of the things I wanted to ask you about this booklet, How Can I Please God and Everything, although it is probably a minority view today in the 21st century because of, unfortunately, the sins of easy believism and cheap grace and licentious living by many who profess to be Christians, even who are in the pulpit.

And although this is not, what I'm going to say, a dominant problem, as it may have been years ago, in fact it was, without question, quite a while ago, but there were churches, as you know, and they still exist, where legalism is so heavy that pleasing God and everything to some people is an arduous and nightmarish and depressing journey where they are on a treadmill in their minds trying to please God and they are failing over and over again, and they feel as if God has abandoned them, or they feel that if they are not performing to maximum capacity, God will abandon them.

Can you give our listeners, especially those who are among the minority today who are underneath that error of thinking, to give them assurance that this is not what you are trying to promote in this booklet where you are trying to instill fear, although there is a need for a God-fearing mindset in all of us, but at the same time we shouldn't be living in constant terror, constantly thinking that we are displeasing God.

If you could perhaps elaborate on what I just said. Amen. We have an anonymous listener. The anonymous listener asks, I have Roman Catholic friends and family members as well as those who are in extreme Pentecostal churches who tell me that the only way anyone will maintain an obedient life is if they are fearful of losing their salvation because doing good works, if they do not have some sort of merit behind them entering into heaven, they are useless and unnecessary.

Can you give me some advice on how to answer these friends and family members who believe that only the fear of losing your salvation will enable you to maintain good works throughout your life? Amen.

Amen. And just to clarify something, I know that you said just moments ago that you do not like the phrase, or you didn't phrase it exactly as I am saying it now, but you dismissed the concept of once saved always saved.

Now I know that being a thoroughgoing Calvinist that you are, that you believe in perseverance and preservation of the saints, which is the name or title for the doctrine of the inability for a true Christian to lose his or her salvation.

We prefer that title because it is more descriptive and sufficient in what we believe about that issue. But would you say that the reason why you and many other theologically reformed Christians do not like the once saved always saved title for this is because it gives the impression that once you think you're saved, you really are saved and always will be.

And that's where the problem comes in, is where people think they're saved very often because they've been told that by going forward at an invitation at a crusade or after a worship service. But in reality, they're just as lost as they were before they started walking down that aisle.

Am I right? Is this your concern with that phrase once saved always saved?

That is exactly it. My decision in that way to put his hands.

Amen. And when we come back from our very first break that we have to go to momentarily, I'd like you to give us some practical counsel on how a Christian can better serve Christ and please him and everything that we do every day.

And obviously knowing that we are all sinners, this side of glory and we will never completely successfully please God and everything that we do. But that must be the goal. That must be what we strive for.

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If you live outside the USA and only remain anonymous, if it's a personal and private question that you have for our guest, Reverend Jeff Thomas, and as I said before the break, Reverend Thomas, I asked you if you could please give us perhaps some practical counsel, advice, on improving our walk with Christ, making it more pleasing to him, as is the theme of your booklet How Can I Please God and Everything.

Okay, nothing I'd rather talk about now.

Practical Counsel for Pleasing God in Daily Life

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Before we return to Jeff Thomas, who happens to be a close mutual friend of Mike Gaydosch of Solid Ground Christian Books, before I return to Brother Jeff Thomas to continue our discussion on how to please God in everything, or how can I please God in everything, we have just a couple of announcements in regard to special events and one of them includes an event where Brother Jeff Thomas will be preaching this December, next month, Thursday and Friday, December 19th and 20th, in Manhattan.

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