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So reading Greg Cole's book, reading Preston's book, Embodied, checking out other resources that Preston has put out. Everything's always couched like, let me show you how complicated and how hard. It's always that, he'll land at spots where you go, so do you see I land at this orthodox position?
Preston will freely say that he thinks that your gender is tied to your biologically created body. And we would go, well, I agree with that. But what he does to subtly move the line is he goes, listen to these guys, listen to how hard this is, their experience that's so difficult.
Do you see even how they read certain texts and it's like a predestination versus free will, infant baptism or baptizing adults. Like the churches, we've had disagreements over stuff like that, we've been able to walk together.
Well, we need to be able to walk together on issues like this.