If They're DEMONS, What About Alien BODIES in Mexico?!

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In this case, this is one of those that is media hype. To be honest, they look fake, and I think it's because they are.

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How many of you saw the headline about alien bodies in Mexico last year, and you thought, oh, wow, alien bodies?

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They must be physical beings from another planet. Why would people make this up? Why would they fake the bodies of alleged alien beings?

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If it's gonna further the cause, they'll say and do whatever it takes. They found alien bodies in Mexico?

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Mexico? Now what? So here's the deal. We've discussed what's really going on in the skies above us.

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These UFOs and alien abduction cases are not really physical creatures from another galaxy.

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They are spirit beings from another dimension. But wait a second, if that's the case, what about those alien bodies pulled from crash sites?

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Doesn't that disprove your theory, Nate? That's a good question. Let's take a look at an interview with ufologist and Christian Gary Bates, author of a very helpful book called

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Alien Intrusion. I highly recommend y 'all take a look at that book. Bates talks about these bodies that had been discovered.

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But wait a sec, what does that do to our theory? Is the spirit being explanation undermined?

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We're about to find out. But first, if you're new here, welcome to Wise Disciple. My name is Nate Sala, and I'm helping you become the effective Christian that you were meant to be.

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What causes people to interpret things that way are kind of their worldviews. And what I call pop culture.

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UFOs are interpreted like many things in our world based on our belief systems. If you believe that there was a Big Bang 14 billion years ago, and that our

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Earth is in a relatively young part of the universe, there are alien races that could be millions or billions of years older than us on the evolutionary scale.

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And could you imagine the advances in technology they've developed in that time? And that's how come they can fly millions of light years across the galaxy or the universe?

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Yeah, yeah. So this is the Joe Rogan view. This is the view of skeptics who, as I've pointed out in previous videos, they see what they wanna see, right?

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They're looking at the same evidence that we are, but they've limited themselves too much to the point where the only explanation for the sightings in the skies and the instances of what's called

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CAS, which is classic abduction syndrome is a materialist explanation.

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It has to be physical beings. And if they're physical, well, they must be coming from another part of the galaxy.

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But if you stop being so narrow -minded and you open your mind to align with what the

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Bible teaches, well, then you have an explanation that brings in the supernatural realm and other dimensions.

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And that is a much better explanation for not only UFO sightings, but also CAS cases.

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Universe rather and stealthily abduct people from their beds in the middle of the night. Now, the other option of course is, which we can talk about later is, well, there's evolution or there's creation.

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So that then begs the question, did God create aliens? But we can do that one probably later on. Yeah, and I think something -

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Yeah, God created aliens, okay? But we don't call them aliens in the Bible.

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We call them angels, don't we? We call them demons. These are terms, these are names for what they really are.

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We call them God's heavenly host. What we are seeing in the skies, which may be good or bad, although I would argue like the abduction cases are all bad, but they all fit into a biblical category that is more than adequate to provide an explanation.

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God originally created these beings and they are part of the unseen realm that is all around us.

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Very interesting. I think I got this from your movie as well, is that 200 years ago, if a farmer, I think you mentioned an example like this, if a farmer in his field saw a flash in the sky, he probably wouldn't be able to say it's a

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UFO, would he? He wouldn't know what it means. He probably doesn't even realise they're a distant star system. So he interprets it within his cultural understanding of the day.

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Maybe I need to go and get my eyes checked or maybe it's a spiritual phenomenon, a demon or whatever, depending what religion they believe in.

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We've talked about the July, 2023 congressional hearings, but what about there's something even more recent than that?

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September, 2023, we had the little aliens in the Mexican government. What's that all about?

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Yeah, and look. Well, now for reference, here is an article attached to that.

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So this is a Reuters article. It says alien bodies presented in Mexican Congress.

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Okay, here's the photo of the remains of an allegedly non -human being put on display in Mexico City.

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Little bit of this article, this is what it says. A UFO hearing in Mexico's Congress that featured the presentation of alleged remains of non -human beings faced swift international backlash on Thursday with critics labelling it a stunt and questions from officials in Peru where the apparent specimens first emerged.

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Mexican journalist and longtime UFO enthusiast, Jamie Maussan, showed politicians at the hearing on Tuesday two tiny bodies displayed in cases with three fingers on each hand and elongated heads.

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I guess, yeah, those are three fingers. Elongated heads. He claimed they were found in Peru in 2017 and were not related to any life on earth.

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Maussan has made similar controversial claims in the past. The images from the congressional hearing, the first of its kind in Mexico, sparked international curiosity as well as substantial scorn.

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Former US Navy pilot, Ryan Graves, who also attended the hearing to share his personal experience with sightings of unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAP, heaped criticism on the presentation.

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Yesterday's demonstration was a huge step backwards for this issue, Graves said. So they already knew.

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This was one year ago today. I mean, as of this recording.

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They already suspected that it was a stunt, but this was not the first quote -unquote body that was produced.

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My reaction to this news story... So wait, let me back up. I've been very clear about this since I've started making these videos.

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These alleged aliens are not actually material beings from another part of the universe. They are spiritual beings from the unseen realm.

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They are demons, particularly those who conduct the alleged abductions of people.

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That's what I've said. That makes alien abduction cases more in line with paranormal experiences, but also with some of these

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UFO sightings, you know? So in other words, these are not actual physical abductions where people are taken aboard a mothership or something.

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And if you look closer at CAS cases, you'll see that. I mean, these are people who have not only levitated off their beds in the middle of the night, but they've passed through physical walls as if those physical objects were not even there.

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Hello? Hello? They're not physically floating through a wall, guys. This is a paranormal supernatural experience that they're having.

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So when physical bodies of alleged aliens are produced, I'm skeptical, okay?

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But I'm also open. I'm open to revising my view on this issue when new evidence comes in.

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I mean, there's still a lot that we don't know about these mysterious objects in the sky.

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Right? Let me also say this, the vast majority of UAP are still plausibly explained away by natural phenomena.

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But there are these instances where natural phenomena cannot explain what we're seeing in the skies.

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And yeah, there have been claims in the past about discovering the dead physical bodies of these alleged aliens.

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Okay. But now we're seeing, I mean, at least in this case, last year in Mexico, this was a hoax.

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Watch this. Okay, there's a term in ufology, which is kind of the study of UFOs.

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I suppose I qualify as a ufologist. But, and it's called debunker. So when something comes up, you're always too eager to put it down.

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So let me just say, I've already said there is something going on that we need to quantify. But in this case, this is one of those that is media hype.

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And unfortunately, the gentleman who brought forward these two supposedly alien bodies, and look, to be honest, they look fake, and I think it's because they are.

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You've got to dive between, dive underneath and deeper in the press reports. So you see things like alien bodies.

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Now, the gentleman that produced these, his name is Jamie Mouson. I mentioned him in my book. He's a well -known Mexican ufologist.

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He's been criticized and found out hoaxing and faking stuff before. Hoaxing and faking stuff before.

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Look at this. This is an article from space .com, and it talks about Mouson.

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Listen to this. As it turns out, Mouson has a history of wheeling out fake alien remains. Micah Hanks, editor of The Debrief, and a longtime

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UAP researcher, says that Mouson's latest alien body hoax is unfortunately not the first time this sort of thing has happened.

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In 2015, Mouson organized an event in Mexico City, marking the release of a blurry photograph depicting what appeared to be the remains of a small mummified humanoid alien.

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However, once clear copies of the image were circulated online just hours after their unveiling at the event, it was quickly determined that the image actually depicted historic remains belonging to an indigenous

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American child, which decades ago had been displayed for a time in a museum. So this man has a history of perpetrating hoaxes and being debunked.

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I mean, why is he being taken seriously again? Well, I mean, I guess that's the thing, isn't it?

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I mean, like, he's not, though. But you wouldn't know that if you had just seen some of these headlines last year, right?

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How many of you saw the headline about alien bodies in Mexico last year, and you thought, oh, wow, alien bodies?

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They must be physical beings from another planet. Et cetera, there was a Peruvian mummy that was allegedly alien in the past.

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And what they say are things like, we are getting scientific research done on this. So they're not telling you the results of that.

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So when you hear, oh, they're getting scientific research, the initial inclination is to think, oh, the scientific research is supporting the claim.

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But you can go on there and you can see that the scientists and the body that he sent it to have distanced themselves from his claims, right?

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And the best we can find out, because it takes a while, and they'll officially publish a report and probably a journal article somewhere that it's an assemblage of llama bones and there are some human bones in there and all sorts of stuff like that.

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And this reminds me of another episode, which I wrote about, another famous ufologist called Stephen Greer.

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He was a former medical doctor. He had a movie called Sirius. I've written a review on creation .com about that. But it was one called the

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Atacama alien, and there were pictures of it. And it looks humanoid, but it's got a very weird shaped head, et cetera.

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Okay, let's take a look at that one. Okay, this is from the

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New York Times. Was a tiny mummy in the Atacama an alien? No, but the real story is almost as strange.

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Look at this thing. A mummified skeleton from the Atacama desert in Chile has been described as alien, but genetic analysis shows that she was a human and may have had a previously unknown bone disorder.

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This thing was six inches long.

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Yeah, here it is. Six inch long skeleton. This thing was found by an amateur collector exploring a ghost town.

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And there were some striking anomalies. It only had 10 ribs, giant eye sockets, and a long skull.

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But as it turns out, it was suffering from some kind of bone disorder, a group of mutations in the genes that related to bone development.

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So, okay. So Stephen Greer bandied about with this particular story, and as it turns out, this was also a hoax.

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Definitely a mummified organism. So in the movie, he said, we are getting DNA testing done on this.

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Wow, they're getting DNA testing. It must be real. But then later, the organization that was doing the

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DNA testing came out and they said, it's human. It was a deformed fetus. It was the case of dwarfism.

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And in the very, very dry desert in Peru, it had desiccated the body. But because of its abnormalities, it had a weird shaped head and so on.

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And that kind of reminds me, just on that, we mentioned the congressional hearings. There was a former military intelligence officer,

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Air Force officer named David Grouch, and I've been sent a lot of emails about this. I watched it. He was asked by one of the politicians, he said, and the question was, have you recovered alien bodies?

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And again, I'm gonna be fairly critical here because his answer really told me everything that I needed to know. He didn't answer yes or no.

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He said, we have recovered non -human biological material. I mean, what does that mean? Right?

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It means we have something physical and not human, right? Okay. But is alien from another planet the only explanation for something physical and not human?

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Could sheep bones and mummified remains of other animals also be an explanation?

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Of course. Now, the question is, why would people make this up?

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Why would they, if they're genuinely seeking truth on this issue, why would they fake the bodies of alleged alien beings?

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Bates has an interesting take on this. Take a look. I mean, it could have been a bug on the windscreen. I mean, it's anything that is non -human could be biological material.

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So why do I say this? People are complex beings. We either put them into categories, they're mad or they're bad, but we talked about our worldviews and our beliefs shaping apart.

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And I've experienced that there are very, very sincere people who believe that aliens are visiting us and the government's covering it up.

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And sometimes the end justifies the means. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want you to believe, Scott, what I believe.

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So if I'm not quite candid with the truth and it causes you to investigate more, maybe I can get you on board with us, et cetera.

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So - Did you track that? For some people, the ends justify the means.

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If it's gonna further the cause, they'll say and do whatever it takes. It's interesting. Do you remember the folks who would claim to have been the victims of racial crimes only to find out that they had made it all up later?

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They had perpetrated a hoax. So these stories would come out every now and then. You remember this about students of color, right?

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College students at universities who discover something like a noose hanging outside their dorm room or something like that.

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You know what I mean? Like a racial slur written on their car and they would do an investigation, like the university would, and discover that it was actually the alleged victim who did these things to themselves.

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And then when you ask them, why did you do that? They all essentially had the same answer. We're raising awareness for the real issue of racism or whatever their cause was.

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That, I think, is a perfect example of the ends justifying the means. That is what

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Bates is talking about. Are people capable of doing this with regard to the UFO issue?

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100 % yes. Does this do anything to, I don't know, undermine the explanation that I've given for these beings that other

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Christians have given that they are spiritual beings from another dimension? No. As of this recording, there is still no real evidence that these alleged aliens are physical beings from another galaxy.

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And I would propose to you, the Christian explanation makes the most sense of what we're seeing today.

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But that requires you to let go of your materialist presuppositions and acknowledge that there is an unseen realm, a paranormal dimension, that there are such things as supernatural beings, and that they can interact and engage with us in order to go along with their own agenda.

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And as we've seen from CAS and other abduction reports, the end result is an embrace of the occult and a rejection of the

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God of heaven. When somebody gives a bit of an evasive answer like that, it tells me, ah, okay, he's not playing with a straight bat, as we'd say in Australia.

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Interesting, but you said you're not a debunker. And so you recognize these experiences that these people have had. So I think what you're saying,

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Gary, correct me if I'm wrong, is that you're saying, okay, I acknowledge that some of these people, even the people that are fraudsters, for want of a better word, that are putting forward things as real alien bodies, but they're not.

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Would you say that maybe they're probably an experiencer, someone that's had an experience, because as we said, it's 4 million people, and that's just in the

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US, experienced alien abductions. They're an experiencer, and they want other people to know that this is a real thing, because to them, it was very real.

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Is that a fair assessment? Yeah, I think that can be part of it. They might not be experiencers themselves, but they've met lots of people who've had experiences.

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They have similar stories that you think, well, they can't be watching all the same science fiction movies, so there has to be something going on.

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And that is the experience of genuine researchers. And indeed, it's my experience. When I'm meeting people, you can find a pattern, particularly at the levels of abductions, which is where I think, later on we can talk about that, but I think that's where we're gonna really unpick or unpack what's going on.

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Yeah, no. So what is Bates' view? Well, he takes the same view that I do.

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As a matter of fact, Bates' book, as I've mentioned, Alien Intrusion, was very helpful for me to collect together the

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UFO and the alleged abduction experiences of people in a manner that is both thorough, but also makes a great case for the paranormal explanation that Christians posit.

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Gary, you said that we have the answer. We have the answer as Christians. So I guess we have the answer in the Bible. What is the answer?

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We've established this as a real phenomenon, happens to many people. What's the answer? Well, let me just repeat something too.

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It's not a case where some people have accused, well, you're a Christian, you're just trying to shoehorn it within your Christian worldview. We've established that the appearances of UFOs themselves seem to be supernatural.

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We're gonna talk about the experience and have done about abductees and it being spiritual in nature. And why are they giving messages to people about Jesus Christ?

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Why are they obsessed with him, this supposedly mythical religious figure? Why do aliens travel millions of light years to talk about Jesus?

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I'm gonna mention that. But I wanna read out some examples from scripture with some notes here, because I said the

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Bible's always indicated there's another realm or dimension. The most famous visitor we ever had from that other realm was the

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Lord Jesus. And he stood before Pilate during his trial and he said, my kingdom is not of this world.

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My kingdom is from another place. The nature of angels we've discussed, there are good ones, there are bad ones.

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People record, the Bible records encounters with them. And the Bible also tells us never to seek after them.

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There are multiple warnings in scripture not to seek after the starry host, for example. We talked about the change in the nature of people, how their worldviews are changed to a very, very more definite non -Christian view.

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Like the Bible is really just an old kind of fuddy -buddy book. Jesus says in Matthew 24, false

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Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect.

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If that were possible, who's the elect? That's the church he's talking about. So there's a warning to be careful of some of these signs and wonders.

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Now I'm not saying that uniquely applies to the UFO phenomenon, but it could be part of that. Because if you are seeing things that define naturalistic laws and you don't have a

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Christian worldview and you come up with ideas of multiverse, et cetera, then you think that aliens are visiting us and they're our creators.

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But here's the real kicker, Scott. There's over 400 cases that I'm aware of with collaborators that I work with where these abductions have been halted by people calling on the name of Jesus Christ.

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Now I don't - And that's it. We've talked about this before, but it's good to hear one more time.

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What are these beings? If when they try to quote unquote abduct you, you can stop them in their tracks and force them to retreat by calling out the name of Jesus Christ.

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If I described these experiences to you and I said, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, these things or whatever they are, they're trying to get at me and take me with them.

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But when I call out the name of Jesus Christ, they flee. Come on, you know what those are.

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You would say those are demons. Those are enemies who stand in opposition to our

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God. But if you say aliens, oh, all of a sudden people are like, well, hold on, that's different now.

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No, it's not. It's the same old tired strategy of the enemy to deceive and to confuse

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Take a look at this. Jesus says in John eight, why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.

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You are of your father, the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires.

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That's why the apostle Paul also says this. Second Corinthians four, four in their case, the God of this world, who's that?

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Has blinded the minds of the unbelievers to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

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The God of this world is the devil. And so many have become blind to his lies.

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Don't fall for it, ladies and gentlemen. The end of that road leads away from God and into the occult.

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And the false promises of new age mysticism. It's all a path that ends directly in hell.

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Don't believe it. Let God's word guide you and give you discernment when it comes to these kinds of stories.

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Well, this is a very interesting interview. Lots of helpful information in this one.

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I highly encourage you to check out the whole thing. I'm gonna leave a link to the full interview below, but now it's your turn. What are those physical bodies they found in Mexico?

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Is this a defeater for the Christian position or do we just not know enough yet to say one way or the other?

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