Sodomy: Are Gays Worse Sinners Than Normal People?
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Are some sins worse than others, or are all sins equally heinous in God's eyes?
Is Stephen Anderson right in thinking that gays are irredeemably wicked?
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- Here's Pastor Tim. In this episode of Iron Sharpening Iron, we're going to be answering the question, are gays worse sinners than normal people?
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- Now, immediately when you hear a question like that, one of the things that if you're a Christian and you have some sort of self -awareness, one of the things that you might think immediately is that you might realize that you're a sinner and that all people are sinners.
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- There's none righteous, no not one. We've all turned aside. We've all pursued our own way.
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- There's none that does good, no not one. We realize that we're all sinners. We all stand equally condemned before holy
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- God. We understand that just one sin will separate us from God. That if we're guilty of one sin, that we in some sense have rejected the whole law of God, God's standards of perfection.
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- None of us meet that standard. We all stand equally condemned. We realize that also related to this topic matter, are gays worse sinners than normal people?
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- We realize that there will be many individuals who are attracted to members of the opposite sex who will end up in hell.
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- And we also understand that there will be many people who have deviant sexual temptations who will also end up in hell.
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- The issue of the nature of a person's attractions, whether normal as God designed them to be or deviant and corrupted, that in of itself is neither salvific nor uniquely condemning.
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- Meaning that the presence of those things does not in some simplistic way guarantee that an individual will go to hell.
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- And then the absence of those things doesn't in any kind of simplistic way guarantee that they're going to go to heaven.
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- So there are plenty of wicked sinners who happen to never have been tempted towards sodomy their entire lives.
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- There's plenty of individuals. I imagine Hitler was one of those individuals who was never tempted that way in the course of his whole life.
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- Maybe there's historical evidence I'm unaware of that suggests the contrary. But I imagine that there is plenty of dictators out there who have committed a great amount of evil in the world who will no doubt end up in hell.
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- And there is no salvation through a normal sexual orientation to use the obnoxious language that our society is intent upon using.
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- So when you think about it that way, all of us stand equally condemned before God we all enter into the world with the inherited guilt of our father,
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- Adam. There's nothing we can do about it. We all stand condemned. In some sense, we all obviously fall short of God's standard of perfection.
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- We all are desperately in need of a savior. Yes and amen to all that. Now the question though remains, are gays worse sinners than normal people?
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- And that kind of person that I just said who acknowledges all those things might hear that kind of question to be the kind of question that the only person who would answer yes to would be someone like Steven Anderson or the
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- Westboro Baptist individuals who really do seem to revel in their hatred towards individuals who commit sins that they would never dare to commit.
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- And they really do seem to be the sorts of people who say, thank God I'm not like these vile sinners in their pride and their hypocrisy and everything else.
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- At the same time, however, one of the things to realize is the Bible is not the kind of book that engages in sin leveling.
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- Both on a human level and also from the divine perspective, there are sins that are clearly worse than other sins.
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- And what I mean by that is that there are any number of sins that an individual can commit, a lack of gratitude, a lack of thanklessness, pride, arrogance, boasting, covetousness, even lust.
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- An individual can commit any number of sins that are heinous and disgusting before the eyes of God.
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- And at the same time, God did not command the death penalty for every sin that happens to exist.
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- So let's change the subject to murder, for instance, and try to respond to this question as it relates to that.
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- Just pause for a second and think about the way that murder works. Now, anger is the kind of sin that inevitably if you feed it and if you feed it and if you feed it, you should not be surprised if ultimately one day your anger culminates in murder.
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- Now, when Jesus comments on anger and murder in the Sermon on the Mount, he essentially says that if you think that you're okay essentially because you haven't committed murder, but if you're angry with your brother, you basically have committed murder in your heart.
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- That's his comment. And the same thing goes for lust. You think, hey, you're fine because you didn't break the command to not have adultery.
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- But if you have lust for a woman in your heart, you committed adultery in your heart. One of the things that Jesus is doing in the
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- Sermon on the Mount is he's rebuking the kind of person who says, hey, I didn't commit physical adultery.
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- Hey, I didn't commit physical murder, so I must be okay. I've kept the commandments. But then the problem though is to say that there's more to these commandments than just the external action.
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- There's also the internal attitude. So anger in a certain sense is connected to murder. Now to give an analogy to compare the two, you might consider, and often as you read through the scriptures, the scriptures will consider anger a fire.
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- So think about anger as a fire. Now, there are forms of anger that are small, like there's different types of anger that exist in the world.
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- So like frustration and irritation and annoyance and all this. These are what many have described as baby anger.
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- Now, if you consider baby anger a fire and you think about it as a fire, is a little fire, just imagine like a little two inch by two inch fire by the side of your house, is that a problem?
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- No, it's obviously a problem. Is it bad? It's obviously bad. But is it as bad as a fire that has grown to the point where your entire house is set on fire?
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- Well, no, I think everyone would prefer that that fire remain that little baby thing.
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- Now, ultimately, if you let it go, it will not grow, it will not grow, it will not get worse. Have you not known plenty of people who are dominated by bitterness to where bitterness becomes a comprehensive state of their life?
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- Sure. And doesn't that lead to all sorts of other problems? Sure. But here's the thing. Not all sin is the same.
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- So anger is not the same as murder. It's just coming from the same kind of thing. So both anger and murder are fire.
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- You might want to picture it that way. But essentially, murder is the fire of anger when it has grown and grown and grown and at some point got out of control.
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- Now, one of the things that happens is when Jesus comes along and says, hey, anger is essentially heart murder.
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- One of the things he's not doing is essentially saying that anytime anyone expresses anger, you need to put them to death.
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- No, because anger is obviously sinful, but it's not sinful to the degree in terms of its functionality or practice.
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- It's not as sinful in degree as when you take anger to the point where you are so mad at a person that you want to remove their existence from the earth.
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- So obviously, anger, when it's metastasized to that level, has become a significantly worse moral issue.
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- Now, none of it's good. None of it's right. None of it will justify you or all of it will equally condemn you before holy
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- God. But at the same time, there are obviously levels of consequences to certain things, and if you let your anger get out of control and out of control, you should warn people that one day you may commit murder and you hold on to that anger, you don't know where it's going to lead you.
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- But at the same time, murder is objectively, both on a human level and from the divine perspective, worse than anger.
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- Now, in the same way, lust is a problem. So heterosexual lust can lead to all sorts of problems.
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- Heterosexual lust can lead to infidelity. Heterosexual lust can lead to all sorts of significant moral problems.
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- But then when you're talking about an issue like sodomy, one of the things you might realize is that sodomy is also a sin that was listed under the old covenant as the type of sin that if an individual engaged in it, they were to be put to death.
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- It was a capital punishment offense. So from God's perspective, yes, sodomy is far worse than just normal lust.
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- When you let this deviant lust advance to the level where you actually act on it, that is the type of sin that God considers to be a death penalty offense.
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- It considers it to be an abomination. Now, in the language of Romans 1, one of the things that you're going to find is if you go to Romans 1 and you think about what's happening, mankind rejects
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- God. It refuses to worship God. It refuses to glorify God as God or give thanks, rejects the knowledge of God found in nature and professing to be wise, becomes fools.
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- And one of the things that realize in Romans 1, 18, God says this, for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.
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- So here's the thing, verse 21, for although they knew God, they did not honor him or give thanks, but became feeble in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened.
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- Verse 24, therefore God gave them up to the lust of their hearts, to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies, among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the creator who is blessed forever.
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- Amen. For this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions for their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature.
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- And men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
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- One of the things to realize is that when individuals are given over to sodomy, this is a particularly advanced form of the rejection of the knowledge of God.
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- It is a sign itself of God's judgment against the society. And it's obviously a sign of God's judgment against the society because there is nothing that stands more against God's fundamental purposes for human beings in this world than the idea of same -sex relations.
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- One of the first commands that God has given to the human race is the command to be fruitful and multiply. And same -sex relationships, if you want to call them that, are relationships which fundamentally stand at total odds with all of God's purposes.
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- And whenever you reject God's purposes in such a comprehensive way, one of the things to realize is that there are entailments and there are consequences to that sort of thing.
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- And so one of the things that we can't do as Christians is to simply pretend as if all sin is equally heinous in the eyes of God and all sin is equally as bad.
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- It would be far better for a society, let me say something that's outrageous, be far better for a society to be filled with normal lust than it would be for a society to be filled with same -sex lust.
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- And the reason for that is obvious. If the entire society was given over to same -sex lust, one of the things that would happen is the human race would cease to exist.
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- So this is a significant problem and it's a kind of problem that shows a particular advanced form of rebellion against God.
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- And it's the kind of problem that God reserves the death penalty for. So we shouldn't, in some simplistic kind of way, pretend as if all sins are the same.
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- Now, obviously there's a kind of person who basically pats himself on the back with that kind of knowledge and say, hey, well, thank
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- God I'm not like these homosexuals with their filthy attractions. And individuals like that may be
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- Steven Anderson and Westboro Baptist. And there are errors that are made along those lines where individuals like Steven Anderson really do seem to think, and some independent fundamentalist
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- Baptist seem to really think that sodomy is the kind of sin that results, that there's evidence of such a perversion that this person is fundamentally unable to be saved.
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- And the Bible never describes any class of person as being fundamentally irredeemable by nature of any sin that they commit.
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- In fact, it's in the Bible, some of the individuals who commit the most scandalous sins are the ones who become the best followers of Christ.
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- And so part of that is because the one who's been forgiven much, loves much. And the worst sins that functionally sometimes people commit in this life, the more it reminds them of grace.
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- And the more they're devoted to turning from those things with the whole heart instead of being like the older brother who can't see their own sin.
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- And so there's that, there's always an offer of salvation given to anyone who will repent of their sins and believe the good news and put their faith in Christ.
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- This is true for individuals with normal sexual attractions. And this is true for individuals who are tempted towards deviant forms of sexual immorality.
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- There's always hope that if you repent of your sins, put your faith in Christ and turn from it, that you will be saved.
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- But at the same time, not all sins are equal and not all sins are equally bad in terms of God's perspective of it or the punishments that are associated with it as well.
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