"Your Line Of Questioning Is Transphobic"

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Frying pan to the head. Spatulas. Alright everybody, welcome back to Apologia Radio.

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A little bit heavier, a little bit happier. Well, and just to clarify,

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I did not go on a sabbatical because I am not a pastor. No, no. In case this is your first time watching.

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State the obvious. It's almost like, did you guys see that crazy video? Did you see the crazy? I got to find it. I have to do it.

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I have to find it. I think I know what you're talking about. What is happening in our world right now? Did I say world?

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It's been a long two weeks. Joy, did you enjoy your time off from us? I think that came out weird.

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I feel like it would be offensive to say yes very much. And just for the record, Joy did not come back heavier.

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I did. No, come on. I hate when they do this with these. What is it?

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I wonder if Armored Republic can create like a bulletproof frying pan. You can just carry with you.

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Keep up the conversation. If you have a cast iron pan, I feel like it would do something.

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I feel like that could be pretty. It depends on the gun probably. May not have the right coating, but I mean,

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I'll have to bring that up to them in there. I don't know if they have like a box where you can put in suggestions. Right.

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Also known as a suggestion box. A box where you put in suggestions. It's a lengthy way of getting it across.

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My sister used to take me to this. I don't even know if they still have them. But this sub shop and my brother worked there.

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Sub machine gun shop? We'd go visit them. No, no, actually not related in that way. Related in the suggestion box way.

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But we would always put don't eat yellow snow in the suggestion box. Did they ever listen?

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My brother opened that and not some other poor person. Okay, so I found it.

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I think sometimes, I'm thinking some of these platforms actually hide the videos. Oh my gosh.

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They hide the videos. They hide the videos that are like damaging to the left and their leadership.

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Like they're hard to find. It's like these videos are out there and this is like a viral video. Why is it so hard for me to find this right now?

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I think sometimes I've been like I can't find that video and I should be able to find it. We should start introducing ourselves like this. Yeah, what?

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What you're about to play. Oh, yeah. By the way, welcome everybody to Apologia. My name is

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Jeff. Pronouns are he and him. And I'm wearing tattoos and a grayish.

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Grayish. Grayish. Grayish shirt. Most importantly though, are you white?

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I'm a white cis male. You look tan though. You're tan now. Just got back from that sabbatical.

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Nothing really to do except just walk around and be in the sun. I didn't get tan. And eat food.

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Well, you were in the Midwest. All right, here we go. So this is the video. It took us ten minutes to introduce because we couldn't find it.

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This is crazy stating the obvious. What is happening in our world? Good afternoon.

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I want to welcome these leaders for coming in to have this very important discussion. About some of the most pressing issues of our time.

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I am Kamala Harris. My pronouns are she and her. I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit.

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I was going to say, does it say she, her underneath on the name plate?

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What does that say? There's like a little tiny message underneath. It may say that, yeah.

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Because I feel like it would be offensive. I'd like her to define what a woman is. Yeah, exactly.

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She said she's a woman. A person who wears blue suits. By the way, she's not the only one.

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I watched a little bit more of this. She's not the only one that did it. They all did it at the table. They all did it. They all said the gender.

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They said their pronouns. And then they said what they were wearing. Why? They're re -inhaling all their own breath.

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It's a weird delusional disorder. And they're wearing masks. Here's what's so interesting, too.

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Just think about the complicated nature of this depravity and insanity. And how sin corrupts your reasoning processes.

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The noetic effect of sin. Corrupting even your reasoning processes. I don't know.

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I can't really understand. Because there is no rational. There's no rational justification for this.

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That makes any sense. Outside of this madness. When she says, I'm Kamala Harris.

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I'm a woman. It's she and her. And I'm wearing a blue suit. And then everyone follows along.

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Why? We want to identify everything that's in front of everybody. Objectivity matters.

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All of a sudden. Just so everyone knows. I am wearing a blue suit. What you see in front of you is blue.

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I am wearing a suit. And it is blue. So what's the point of defining your pronouns?

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Because they are saying. That you aren't necessarily what appears. Right? They're saying in their world view.

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No. Just because you think you see a woman in front of you. And just because there are lady bits. Doesn't mean that I'm actually a woman.

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I identify as something different. So think about the madness. The complicated nature of their reasoning processes.

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They're saying. I want to identify what people see in front of them. So what I have is a red suit, a red tie, a blue suit.

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What you see in front of you is what I have on. I'll identify with what's objectively true. It's a suit. Does that count for gender?

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Does it count for gender? Or no? Why are you even identifying blue suit? Why can't she say?

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Why can't Kamala Harris say with her world view? Why can't she say. I'm Kamala Harris. I'm an aunt.

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My pronouns are shim -shim. Shim -a -da -do. And I am wearing.

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She's wearing a blue suit. And I am wearing a purple striped dress. Why can't she say that?

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Why are you identifying blue suit? As though objectivity mattered. In your world view.

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That's what's so maddening about where we're at right now. And I just feel like the world. When sin corrupts your mind like this.

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It's like the world. Is run by adolescence. Adolescence.

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And that's actually one of the judgments of God. Not only is it women ruling over a nation. But also putting youths.

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Immature. Unwise people over a nation. As John Calvin said. When God wants to judge a nation.

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He puts these kinds of people. In charge. It's judgment. This is judgment.

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You have Kamala Harris. In one of the highest offices of our country. And she has the mental capacity.

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I heard she's the first ant vice president. Why not? Why not? Hi I'm Kamala.

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I'm a member of the furry tribe. Furry is a thing too. It's a movement. Furry is a movement.

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People identifying as animals. Loving to dress like animals. Just when you thought pedophilia was weird.

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People dressing up as animals. And then fornicating with each other. It's that blurring of the image of God.

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It's taking what God created. Identified as image of God. And it's morphing it into something else.

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Gender is one of those things. Gender today. Bending gender. You're not really a man.

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You're not really a woman. You can be whatever you like. Even things like the furry movement. Same situation.

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It's trying to blur the image of God. You're not really human. You're not really image of God. You can be an animal.

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And then they start going into more grotesque things. By dressing like animals.

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And doing all kinds of crazy things. It's all a blurring of the image of God. It's madness. If someone wanted to show up at that meeting.

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Butt naked. And they're like. You need to have clothes on. I'm wearing a blue suit. You're naked.

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My nakedness is identifying as a blue suit. It's my birthday suit. Right. It's like a great

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SNL skit. It pans to somebody. My name is Bob. My pronouns are he and him.

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And I'm wearing my birthday suit. Oh man. That's good.

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That would actually work really well. We'll have to keep that in mind for any other projects we do. Alright.

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Getting to what we're talking about. I titled the show today. Your line of questioning is transphobic.

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Because it's a hot video right now. Out from questioning. Berkeley law professor.

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I want to make sure I say her name correctly. I don't know if it's Kiara. Or Kiara Bridges. She's a law professor.

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Berkeley. You would think that means something. Being a law professor.

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At Berkeley. You would hope that that would mean something. In terms of someone's ability to reason. To be cogent in their reasoning.

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One would hope. But we're not living in that world. We're living in a world of identifying the color of suit that you're wearing in a meeting.

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So strange. But this is an important video right now. I think because of what it teaches us about the moment we're in culturally.

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Make sure I get their names right here. It's this Berkeley law professor. And it's Senator Josh Hawley.

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Some of you guys probably already seen this. But it's good to review. You guys let me know when you want to stop. Here we go.

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Professor Bridges. You said several times. You've used a phrase. I want to make sure I understand what you mean by it. You've referred to people with a capacity for pregnancy.

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Would that be women? Many women. Cis women have the capacity for pregnancy.

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Many cis women do not have the capacity for pregnancy. There are also trans men who are capable of pregnancy.

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As well as non -binary people who are capable of pregnancy. So this isn't really a women's rights issue.

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We can recognize that this impacts women. While also recognizing that it impacts other groups.

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Those things are not mutually exclusive. Senator Hawley. So your view is that the core of this right then is about what?

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So I want to recognize that your line of questioning is transphobic. Huh? What?

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I don't even. It's transphobic? He just asked. Are you talking about women? Women?

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And then she blurs the line. It's always this manipulation of language. Many cis women.

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Now cisgendered means that you identify as a gender that you actually are. Let's just call it what it is.

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So in other words. I'm saying I'm a man. Because I'm identifying with the parts that I have.

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And the biological makeup that makes me a man. That's cisgender. That's what it means. Many cisgendered women can be pregnant.

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And many cisgendered women are not. Many cisgendered women can't be pregnant. But here's the thing. Are you ready? Only women can get pregnant.

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That was the question being asked. Are you talking about women? And so she tries to smokescreen.

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By identifying a problem. Because of the fall. Many cisgendered women. In other words women. Many women can get pregnant.

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And many women can't get pregnant. Well that wasn't the question being asked. The question being asked is.

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What kind of human being gets pregnant? It's a woman.

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It's a woman that gets pregnant. And so smokescreen comes up. And you bring up the issue of.

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Well some cis women can't get pregnant. But there's still women right? And only women can actually get pregnant.

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Right? And then she brings up of course the other issue of. Transgendered men and everything else. But he asked this simple question.

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You're talking about women. When you talk about a person that can get pregnant. You're talking about a woman right?

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All he's doing is asking that question. And then she turns it into. You're being transphobic.

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Transphobic because you asked the question. About what is biologically true in this world. There's a term.

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There's a specific term for that. I think that C .S. Lewis. Came up with it.

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But it's basically. When you don't respond. To their argument.

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You bypass the argument. And you. You attack.

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What you presume. Their opinion. Like the.

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You attack. Their motive. As to why.

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They're asking the question. So that's. Man I wish. It's like blue vism or something like that.

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But yeah. So yeah. It's a logical fallacy. Where you just. You go to the person's motive.

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And not actually what they said. And their motive. Is something that you're assuming.

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Unless they tell you what their motive is. You don't actually know. So she's not actually having a conversation with him.

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She is assuming. That probably because of his position. Politically. Maybe how he looks.

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He thinks it's women who can get pregnant. And then yes. The obvious statement. Where he thinks that women.

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Can only get pregnant. So yeah. Let's go back a second. Just to examine what she says here. I'll do that again.

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Do not have the capacity for pregnancy. There are also trans men. Who are capable of pregnancy. As well as non -binary people.

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Who are capable of. And let's dissect it. Let's challenge it. When you say trans men and non -binary persons.

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Who can get pregnant. What are you referring to biologically? What is that trans man? And that non -binary person.

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What are they actually? What are they actually? They are.

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Biological females. Because. Men have penises.

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Women have vaginas. There is sperm. There is egg. There is all of that.

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There's a womb. There's a womb. Only in one kind.

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That comes down in our biological species. And that is. Women.

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I hate to announce the obvious. Like the fact that I'm wearing a gray shirt. Or that someone might have a red shirt on. Or a

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Soledil Gloria shirt on. It's weird to have to announce the obvious. Isn't it? Isn't it so strange.

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That we live in a time where you have to announce the obvious. Like the color of suit you're wearing. Like announcing the obvious.

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That when you say trans men and non -binary persons. What you're really referring to.

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Outside of that language. And manipulation of language. Is what you're really referring to is a female.

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It is a woman. It's a female of the human species. Biologically female. Only they have wombs.

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And if a woman. Dresses up like a man. Her blue suit is only covering.

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The womb. That she has. She's the one with the womb. She can call herself a man. Trans man.

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All she wants. But what is she actually. Biologically. Down to the objective. What's in front of me.

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It's a woman. It's a woman. But where she goes is interesting here. And again this is a Berkeley law professor.

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So this isn't really a women's rights issue. We can recognize that this impacts women.

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While also recognizing that it impacts other groups. Those things are not mutually exclusive. Senator Hawley. So your view is.

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This right then is about what? So I want to recognize.

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That your line of questioning. Is transphobic. And it opens up trans people.

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To violence by not recognizing that. You're saying that I'm opening up people to violence. By asking whether or not women.

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Are the folks who can have pregnancies. So I want to note that one out of five. Transgender persons.

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Have attempted suicide. So I think it's important. Because of my line of questioning. So we can't talk about it.

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Because denying that trans people exist. And pretending not to know that they exist. I'm denying that trans people exist.

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By asking you if you're talking about women. Are you? Do you believe that men can get pregnant?

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No. So you're denying that trans people exist? She's a law professor? Just so you know.

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That's not why. Transgender people kill themselves. That's not why.

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Us having a conversation. About people that are confused. And wicked.

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And lost. Is not why. And you not acknowledging someone as a person.

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Is not why anyone. Commits suicide. And asking if it's only biological females.

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That can get pregnant. Is not denying the existence. Of a person who says that they're trans.

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So that's the problem. This is a Berkeley law professor. And she doesn't understand argument. Language. Logic enough to take the question.

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Isn't it only women that can get pregnant? And to turn that into. You're denying trans people exist.

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No. There's all kinds of people that claim to be trans. I'm not denying their existence.

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I'm asking a biological question. Isn't it only women that have wombs? Guess what? That line of reasoning she just said.

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Isn't going to work in a court of law. That's for sure. No. She's redefining woman as.

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A person capable of. Becoming pregnant. That's what they're redefining it as now.

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As I'm watching this. I can't help but think. This is. A result of feminism.

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Ultimately. Feminists came in years ago. They wanted to redefine stuff.

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This is a result of. Not having Christ. It's chaos. It's coming full circle.

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As a woman. This has to be offensive. They won't even answer.

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They won't even give you a definition. I know we're going to watch more of that. They won't even give you a definition. Of what a woman is.

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Now just being a woman. It's like being a white. Cisgender male. You can't even define that.

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Christ or chaos. It's just. It's this weird. Hyper celebration of women.

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To the point where they can kill their own children. But also. Women is a social construct.

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That doctors define. When you're born. I don't know. Geneticists.

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They trust geneticists so much. Except for when it comes to this. Very simple topic.

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It really is an incredible thing. Because you can see them. Constantly shifting positions. You see that with image bearers of God.

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Regardless. Atheists will claim atheism. That there's no purpose. No meaning. It's all chaos.

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Time and chance. Acting on matter. Sound and fury. Signifying nothing. They have to live in the world in a different way.

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Constantly borrowing from the Christian world view. Day by day by day. They have to. They can't live in the world that they say is the case.

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They have to live in the Christian world. Borrow capital from God. Constantly. Being a woman is nothing.

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It's fluid. It can be whatever you want. You can claim to be it. What is a woman? We don't know. Then they say.

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What are you doing to women? What are you doing to women? They start to pull on the heart strings.

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Every one of us has instinctively. That's protect this person next to me.

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She's the woman. Every man has that instinct as image bearer of God. Protect the woman. Guard the woman.

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Treat her as a weaker vessel. That's inside all of us. They borrow from that natural.

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God given. Divinely inspired instinct in men. That's to protect women. Guard women.

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You have to. They use that only when it's convenient for them. They say being a woman is meaningless.

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I don't even know what it is. It doesn't matter at all. When something like this comes up that will go against their system and their injustices.

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They say look what you're doing to women. Everyone has to see it.

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It's just madness. It's absolutely madness. This is a Berkeley law professor.

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A law professor who can't understand language and definitions and logic and argument enough.

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Why? The question has to be asked. Why is a person like this heralded in our society as somebody that we should be actually listening to?

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This is a minute and a half long clip. She can't hold together an argument for a minute and a half.

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She's a law professor. She's teaching people law. It gets worse. You're going to see in a moment. It'll get worse in a different clip.

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Let's see if there's more here. Is this how you run your classroom? Are students allowed to question you?

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Absolutely. Or are they also treated like this? They're opening up people to violence. We have a good time in my class.

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You should join. You might learn a lot. I would learn a lot. Extraordinary.

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Yikes. That last part was intense. Wasn't it? She's got crazy eyes too.

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Did you feel that? That's intense. That was intense.

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It's a good thing for him to point out. What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

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But do you treat people like this in your classroom? This is abusive. We can't just have a rational engagement and discussion.

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I can't ask you questions about your world view without being accused of being transphobic and putting people's lives in danger for asking the question as to whether or not it's women who have the wombs.

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Can I ask that question in today's world? Flip it. Answer the fool according to their folly. Why can't

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I ask that question in today's world? Answer the fool according to their folly. Why can't I ask that question in today's world? Why can't I say, when she says that men can get pregnant, trans men can get pregnant, cisgender people can get pregnant, why can't

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I say, I just want to point out that your words right now, your line of questioning, and your claims are a bit

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Christophobic. It's Christianphobic. I feel like you're inciting feelings of persecution that I and my brothers and sisters in Christ worldwide are going to feel based upon your world view.

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You're making claims about men getting pregnant that honestly, make me feel a sense of persecution and I might go and hurt myself because of it.

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You might put me into a state of depression because, well actually you do, to be honest. It makes me very sad.

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I get very depressed when I hear this stuff. Why can't I say it back? Aren't we going to start recognizing that we're being children.

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We haven't graduated from third grade apparently. When I can ask a question, a question that has to do with objectivity, genetics, biology,

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I can't ask the question without being threatened with you're putting people's lives in danger.

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Can't we just keep doing that back and forth to each other? Your line of questioning is making me feel really sad. You're going to ruin my week.

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I just want to let you know you're Christophobic. That's when they have to slam down the whole privilege like their belief is that Christianity and its tenants are what created a lot of the systemic oppression and that's why we're trying to move away from it just to further the delusion.

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They can say all that and they still have no coherent way to organize any of their thoughts or knowledge claims but that's just how they're deluding themselves.

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They just would say, I don't have to listen to you, Mr. White male politician who probably makes

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X amount of dollars every year. You're a part of the system that wants to keep women down.

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Why would I listen to you? You're not a credible source of information. I'm a credible source of information and there you go.

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Gaslighting 101. Did you guys learn anything? That's funny because that's about exactly what she's going to say in the next clip.

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Alright, here we go. So next clip. This is more along the question here, not on gender but on the pro -choice and pro -abort position and it's a little lengthier so we'll have a little more to interact with here.

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Mr. Chairman, Professor Bridges, you in your testimony talked about the prevalence of abortion, the percentage of black babies that are aborted as opposed to non -black babies.

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I think you said three or four times more black babies than non -black babies are aborted.

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You also talk about systemic racism. Do you see any systemic racism associated with the prevalence of abortion for black babies as opposed to non -black babies?

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Absolutely. The higher rates of unintended pregnancy that lead to higher abortion rates among black people is a result of structural racism, systemic racism.

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I understand systemic racism not to be boogeymen who are... Wait. Wait. Wait. He asked a question about the rates of black babies being killed, which he's absolutely right.

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Far more black. It's black genocide is what it is. Wiping out the black population among us, killing our black brothers and sisters, image bearers of God, far more, far more.

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That was the original intent. That was the original intent. Thank you, Margaret Sanger. So talk about systemic racism. Systemic racism is something like Margaret Sanger in Planned Parenthood.

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That is systemic racism because she was a racist and she specifically wanted to wipe out the black population.

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So talk about systemic racism. It's the people that you're supporting. It's the organizations. They started that.

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She called them dysgenic stock. That's what she called them. Oh yeah.

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Poor people, black people. I have a quote from her here. She wanted to apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to the offspring.

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She was a eugenicist and she believed everything that the

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Nazis believed. If you don't believe me, you can read Mein Kampf. She was

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BFFs with those guys. If there is any provable systemic racism in our country right now, it is abortion.

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Absolutely. 100%. For sure. The question being asked is the rate of black babies being killed over against other kinds of human beings.

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Whether it's white, whether it's Asian, whether it's Latino, whatever. She then moves to try to suggest that the issue of unintended pregnancies in black communities are the result of systemic racism and racist issues.

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Wait a second. The issue of unintended pregnancies is actually a moral issue within any tribe.

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I'm going to use biblical terminology. Tribes. We're all from one mom and dad and there's different tribes.

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You've got white tribes, black tribes. You've got all kinds of different tribes. Biblical language, tribes. We're all from the same mom and dad.

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All of us are related. We're all image of God. We all go back to the same parents. We're just different tribes of human beings around the world.

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She's suggesting here that the issue of more black babies being killed is the issue of some sort of racial issue related to black people that causes them to have more unintended pregnancies.

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You've got issues of poverty. No, I'm sorry. The issue of unintended pregnancies is a moral issue.

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It's an issue of fornication. If you have a group of people who are getting pregnant and killing their children and you move it back and back and back and back, you're talking about the issue of sex outside of marriage.

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That's really the issue. The question really has to go down to wait, are you suggesting that black people because this is what she's saying.

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Are you suggesting that black people have sex before marriage at higher rates because of poverty and racism?

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Is that how you handle sexual morality? By claiming it's because of poverty and racism or systemic racism?

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People having sex as black people more with unintended pregnancies because of racism?

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No, it's a moral issue. I would actually say this. I would look more whether it's a black group, a black population, a white population, an

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Asian population, whatever kind of population and you're saying there's some real issues of morality here where people are not being married and committed together to have children.

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They're having children and killing their children. I would say let's check out the culture. Let's check out the culture going on.

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If we're saying white people do this, I would say let's take a look at white culture and let's see what would be happening in white culture to create that kind of environment.

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Especially with something so specific. There is only one act that creates a child.

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It would be very easy to actually get some legitimate statistics.

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You'd have to have willing participants but you could actually this is an investigation you could actually have if anyone was interested in telling people they shouldn't have sex outside of marriage.

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Yeah, it's not wrong to look into the white community, white population and ask questions culturally to say well what's going on there with moral issues?

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Where could that come from? What's the instigator that creates that situation? It's not wrong to look in the black community and say well what's creating it within your community?

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What's the world view? What's the belief system? How is it happening? It's just known.

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We understand this. We've got black brothers and sisters, solid pastors and others, leaders who point this out to us, their white brothers and sisters and say we've got a problem with fatherlessness in the black community.

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We've got a problem with fatherlessness. I just had a conversation in the last week as a father

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I've had three conversations just spiritual conversations with family and with others young teenagers talking about faithfulness, fidelity and talking about sex before marriage and why

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God calls us to not live that way. That's what I do as a father. That's what I do in my community as I promote the way that God made the world and made us and why it's so beautiful in this way and it's such a gift and why you have to protect that and preserve that and don't have sex outside of marriage.

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I just had that conversation at 6 o 'clock last night with a young guy. That's what happens in my community.

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My community is not a white community. Our church is blended. That's what fathers do and that's what men who are leaders do.

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They preach that stuff. If you've got a problem with fatherlessness in the black community, probably the reason that there's a moral problem of sexual immorality in any group is that there's no fathers and men leading that.

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When you look at the situation, you've got all these unintended pregnancies. It's a moral question.

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I'd be looking more into WAP. Right? Is it wrong to suggest that?

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If the culture and music and environment being promoted is about sex and WAP and all the other things and money and drugs and all the rest, if that's what you're feeding to your population, is it any surprise that people are actually living according to it?

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Living according to, we can just have sex and it's okay to have sex and have babies and not have a father in the home and to not be connected and to not have a unit.

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I'd be looking more at things like that rather than systemic racism and poverty as the reason why people are having sex.

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People are having sex and having babies because of systemic racism and poverty and those sorts of things. Really? Really?

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The numbers of our Black brothers and sisters who are slaughtered in the womb are so much higher in the

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Black community and I would say push it back a bit. Maybe look at the person who originated this stuff in the

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United States of America and made it popular. Let's look at Margaret Sanger and see what she was up to and let's see if that has any effect.

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Hey, why don't we do something here? Why don't we actually take a look across the landscape and ask the question, where are the majority of these

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Planned Parenthoods and abortion facilities located? Where are they located? Guess what?

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They're located where their business is. They're located really close to dormitories and college campuses, female dormitories.

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They're located close to college campuses because sex outside of marriage is rampant and you're going to have babies and people are going to kill their babies.

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And hey, weird, oddly, strange, we've got a bunch of Planned Parenthoods and abortion facilities that are located smack dab right in the middle of Black communities.

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Hey, that makes sense. That's precisely the dream of Margaret Sanger. Well, and she was not quiet about her convictions either, so while what you're saying is funny, she actually said, she said, the whole point of it, she said what this woman, who is an accidental eugenicist, said, which is that this is the argument, if you can't provide for your child, you should kill them.

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Meaning we can't keep this system going because people will be too poor.

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They won't be able to feed their kids. We can't keep this system of poverty in action.

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The only thing is that Margaret Sanger wanted to end impoverished groups of people by killing them.

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And this is exactly what we're doing. She's saying that due to systemic racism,

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Black women have more of a reason to kill their children. And Margaret Sanger said,

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Black and poor people have more of a reason to kill their children because they're dysgenic stock.

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There is the talking point. Passed along a generation later by a

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Black woman. By a beautiful Black woman. Passed along, coming out of her mouth. That's her system. Wow.

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Alright, here we go. I'm trying to dupe Black people into abortion care. I understand structural racism to be the systems that have made it so that Black people disproportionately bear the burdens of poverty in this country.

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The systems that have denied them the basics that they need in order to live humane lives like food, clothing, shelter, health care.

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A system that responds with the criminal legal system. You believe there ought to be more Black babies aborted, is that right?

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I believe that we ought to create the conditions under which people can lead lives that are filled with dignity and humanity.

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That's precisely what you pointed out. Nailed it. You really did. You nailed it.

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That was the principled position of Margaret Sanger. Exactly that. We can't have people growing up in poverty, so kill them.

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That's precisely the principle she's adopted. We're doing it in the name. This is how well the delusion's going.

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We're doing it in the name of virtue. Right. It's virtuous. You want them in poverty, so kill them.

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Margaret Sanger, she didn't have nearly as much traction when she was into all her other crazy stuff, like being against charity, which she was also against.

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She changed because she wasn't gaining traction, and she was in exile in the UK. She changed because people weren't receptive to her very controversial beliefs.

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She just toned them down a little bit. That's why she said things like, we don't want the word to get out. She said things like in letters, we don't want the word to get out that we're trying to exterminate the

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Black population. She had to tone it down. Here she, this is on multiple levels,

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Margaret Sanger's dream come to fruition. She was a wicked, wicked woman that wanted people to look at evil and say, that's good.

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Here we are. I was just going to say, notice that she, in order to answer his question, it's because there's not enough socialism.

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We're going to solve the problem of killing babies. That's what Margaret Sanger came up with. She was like, let's go a little more socialism.

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The whole intention behind her socialism was to segregate undesirables.

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I mean, so much easier to deal with an undesirable population if you know who they all are, and then you know where to send the sterilization clinics.

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Like Jews, for example. Right. There's a reason these two groups of people look so very similar.

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And down to the same followers of the same people. We're not just saying their principles were finding a correlation between their principles.

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No, they were educated by the same people. Yeah, and when you suggest that we can take down the number of abortions or stop the level of abortions that are happening by creating an environment where people actually can flourish and not be poor.

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Again, just like Joy said, the real principle there is kill the poor people because, why not?

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I mean, it's a better life by not having a life because you're in poverty. Just so you guys know, that's a totally disproven economic philosophy.

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There was a guy, I think Malthus, I have a weird last name, Malthus, but he thought that, basically, he thought that production of goods and resources wouldn't be able to keep up with the rising amount of the population, which we also believe.

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I mean, it's been totally disproven economically because what always happens, whenever there's more population, there's always more innovation.

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There's more people creating and growing and producing. And so it's been disproven and yet it's written all over our culture.

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He said enough for us to just tuck it away and be like, oh, we'll live by that forever.

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Yeah, exactly. How many Einsteins and Newtons and Teslas have we killed?

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Seriously, you want to talk about climate change? All in the name of virtue. Environmentalism? People's automatic assumption is that overpopulation is the problem.

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It's like, undeniably, we have changed the environment of this planet, but I don't necessarily think it's going to be going back to the 1950s to get our planet back.

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There is probably innovation or discovery of new resources.

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There's all that kind of stuff. And we slaughtered millions and we slaughtered an unimaginable amount of people.

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Because we thought there shouldn't be more people. And that's just all the only reason you would think, you would never read the

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Bible and think, we should stop. There should be no more people. It's entirely undeniable. It typically tends to be also, you look at liberals who live in coastal cities, cities, they live in a city that's crowded, people everywhere.

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They tend to think like there's no more space in the world, there's just no more room, there's people everywhere. It's like, have you driven through Texas?

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Or Oklahoma? Or have you driven through Arizona? Yeah. No, you think that way because you live in a coastal city, you live on the high end of life, but you see people everywhere and it seems super crowded because of your lifestyle.

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That's what you've chosen. That's where you live. There is a little town in Canada that is basically our highest up in North America.

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It's as close as we get to the North Pole in terms of people living.

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And there are major cities in Russia where people live at the same distance from the

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North Pole. Oh yeah. Those people are tough. I'm not saying they're not eating.

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They're not living a good life. It's a tough one. But there's a lot of space.

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We got space. All the pragmatism aside, you're not going to get anything from the

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Bible about population control. We're actually in the problem area at this point in this generation.

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Globally, in the U .S., Japan is... I don't know how they're going to pull themselves out of this situation in terms of not producing the amount of children necessary to move your culture, your people into the next generation.

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Japanese people, lack of having children, their birth rates are so low that statistically speaking, like a generation or two, they're going to be out of existence if they keep that up.

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I mean, they've got to work hard to get themselves out of this situation. Our birth rates are low. Globally, birth rates are very, very low.

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And the issue of abortion is a big issue. And so, we're actually not in the problem of overpopulation. We're in the problem of underpopulation, and we're not producing enough children to actually get on to the next generation.

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There are subcategories of humans and others in this world, like Muslims, who are having large amounts of children, large families.

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They're not doing bad because of their religious system that doesn't see children in the family like that as a curse.

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And so, we do. But just real fast, the issue of she thinks that she can solve.

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As a law professor now, someone who's supposed to be good at reasoning, good at definitions, all of that, you know, cogent thinker, coherent, all that stuff.

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She thinks that if you can create the social benefits for people, in other words, like Luke said, socialism, if we can create that, then people aren't going to be having unintended pregnancies and killing their children.

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How many rich white people do we see killing their children? Lots of them. I mean, we've been doing abortion ministry for years, and I'll tell you the truth.

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The people are pulling up, by and large, many of them driving nice cars, and they're doing fine.

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A lot of white people. I'll tell you right now, in Arizona, where we live, very few black people on a daily basis going into the abortion facilities.

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What do we see mostly? White people. White college students. White people. I see white people. I know plenty of well -to -do white people that have killed their...

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I know well -to -do rich white people who have had three, four abortions. How's that work for them?

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No systemic racism on their part, right? And they're not in poverty, and they're still having unintended pregnancies, and they're still killing their children.

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No, people don't kill their children because of that. We're not giving enough money to people.

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And by the way, you don't solve the problem that she's referring to. You don't solve it by, again, government handouts.

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Like, okay, if a person it doesn't matter what color they are. White, black, Asian, doesn't make a difference what color they are.

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If their worldview, their mindset is, I don't want to work. I don't want to create.

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I don't want to feel any pain. I don't want to be stressed. I just want to, you know, smoke weed and drink all day. That happens across cultures.

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It doesn't matter. Black, white, it's not... It's everywhere, right? If someone's mindset is that,

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I do not want to work for what I receive. I just want it handed to me. If that's how they are, like, that's their poverty lifestyle.

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They don't have any drive or ambition or discipline or perseverance or creativity.

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If they're not like that, then when you give them... Sorry, if they are like that and you give them a check and say,

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I'll pay for all your needs. I'll pay for your home. Pay for all your food and everything else. You don't solve the problem of their lack of ambition and their lack of discipline by handing them more money.

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It's a hard issue. The point of the early socialists was to create control over a population.

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That's the point. Socialism is not about fixing a problem. So that they could get rid of them. Not so that they could take care of them.

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So that they could exterminate them. The anti -Christian worldview of the socialists is not going to solve any problems.

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It doesn't solve the problem of the heart. It doesn't solve the problem of the discipline or the lack of discipline.

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It doesn't do that. You know who does solve that problem? The Spirit of God. When you're reconciled to God through Christ, through faith in Him alone, you have a new heart.

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You have the mind of Christ. You desire the things of God. You also desire wisdom.

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As imperfect as that might look in your life, there's the conviction of the Holy Spirit. It's the work of the Spirit of God in your life. The Spirit of God convicts you.

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For what? Your laziness. For your lack of discipline. For your lack of self -control.

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You get convicted of those things. In reality, if you want people out of poverty and that kind of drive to live under the government's money and not do anything.

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If you want to get them out of that, socialism is not going to solve the problem. More government help isn't going to solve the problem. The problem is the problem of the heart.

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It's a lack of discipline. It's sin. Ultimately, idolatry. All the rest with addiction. You need new hearts.

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It's only Christ that can solve this. It is Christ or chaos. Period. You're not going to solve the problem she's aiming at by giving more money and creating the environment where the government basically hands this out and solves the problem of poverty.

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The problem of poverty is a problem of the heart and the mind. That's it.

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I can prove it too. How many people do you need, presented before you, who came to this country with nothing.

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With nothing. With literally $20 in their pocket. They become some of the most wealthiest and stars of our culture.

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Just one story. It just popped in my head. There's so many stories. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Arnold Schwarzenegger comes to this country.

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He's got nothing. He comes with a few dollars in his pocket. He becomes one of the...

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He came with drive. He came with ambition. He came with a work ethic, clearly.

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Seriously, look at the man's body in the 70s. He knows how to work. That wasn't an accident. It didn't happen overnight.

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He didn't take a pill for that. He labored and hurt for that. Someone didn't give him those muscles. The point is there's so many stories of people like that that were poor.

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Technically poor. But there was something different in them in terms of discipline, perseverance, the willingness to suffer, the desire to work and to labor.

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And they pulled themselves out of poverty. And they did it without the government's help. How'd they do that?

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It's a heart issue. It's a worldview issue. It's work ethic. And you're not going to solve the lack of work ethic in any community by handing them more money and giving stuff away to them for free.

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Didn't solve the problem. Like you were talking about too, if the real issue is fatherlessness, there's a kind of work.

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You require discipline and self -control to make money and not be starving.

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But the amount of work and discipline that it requires to be a father or a mother, and if you can't expect people to work hard daily in their vocation or for anything, then it's definitely not making it to parenting.

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And then yeah, you just see just swaths of unwise people that are just figuring things out for themselves.

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And then you introduce public education, which teaches you a bunch of knowledge claims and no actual system to organize them in.

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And it's like, we gotta stop it. Stop. Stop. It's in Berkeley.

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It's Berkeley. I mean Margaret Sanger, yeah. Well the last thing she said,

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I want to make sure we don't skip over, which is like the height of ignorance from her is she's talking about humanity and dignity while she's talking about murdering babies.

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She specifically says it next. Actually, I think you had just ended right there. Go ahead. I was hoping that we would catch that.

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I hope I didn't miss it. Your way of thinking that happens when more black babies are aborted.

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I believe, I trust, I love black people with the capacity for pregnancy. I think they have agency, they have intelligence, they know what is best for themselves, and I would love to create the conditions under which they can live lives that are filled with dignity and humanity.

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Do you think of... Yeah. Yeah. Dignity and what?

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Humanity. Humanity. But only after being born. Why are you bringing it up?

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Why are you bringing up humanity as though that was something that was meaningful or significant in this debate? Humanity?

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Because if you really believe, I'm so glad you brought that up because I was like, I knew there was something we were missing here. The issue of humanity is the issue.

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You're talking about in the womb, from the moment of conception, fully human. Humanity.

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Right there at the moment of conception. So don't talk to us about dignity and humanity. Don't use those

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Christian words. Don't use that in order to propagate your system that says we should kill the babies and treat them with no dignity and treat them as though there is no humanity.

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Because they're poor. Well, and when we were talking about trans people, she was very concerned about death and people not feeling like they're seen as a human.

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There's the borrowing again. She's got baby phobia. I'm sure there's a term for that, but I don't know what it is.

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Transphobia, baby phobia, Christophobia. I mean, yeah. She stood up and she championed for the trans community and said, you can't make people feel like they're not human.

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They'll want to take their own lives. Good point. Always point at the person's feet.

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It's always important for us as Christians to look at our own feet, too. Really, let's not just place it on the professor from Berkeley.

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Let's say to Christians it's always important for us to look at our own feet and say, am I being consistent with what

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I say I'm standing on? But Joy brings up a phenomenal point. In the last clip with the transphobia and the issue there was she wants to pull on the heartstrings and use an emotional argument by saying you're going to force people to kill themselves because you asked a question about whether women are the ones that actually can get pregnant.

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You're going to force people to kill themselves if you do this. What are you doing there? You're borrowing Christian capital as though we should care about other human beings in that way.

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We should care about death in that way. So there's the borrowing once again. Use the Christian worldview against the

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Christian worldview. In this case, she's using terms like dignity and humanity. It's like wait, wait, wait.

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No, no, no. That's mine. That's ours. You're borrowing from the Christian worldview. You don't get that.

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You already abandoned Christ. You don't get dignity and humanity as though that mattered at all because you're showing us that it doesn't matter at all because you think we should kill all the black babies because they're poor.

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It's brephophobia, by the way, or infophobia. Infophobia? Is that a real word? Brephophobia.

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Brephos is baby in Greek, I believe. Oh, okay. Brephophobia. Try to say that five times fast.

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Next time we're talking to someone at the mill or at LSU or something, we'll be like, you're brephophobic.

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You're brephophobe. I'm using it. You should use it. Try to memorize it. I think a baby that is delivered alive has value.

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Yes. Listen to that long pause. She had to really think through that one. To everyone watching live right now, if I asked you that question, believers who love

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Jesus and love other image bearers of God, if I asked that question, how long would it take you to answer that question?

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I would be answering it while you were asking. Yes! I think we can all understand why.

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It should have an obvious answer to any human being. It should be immediately, yes, of course.

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But she has to think through it because she's wondering, am I going to say something that's going to indict me? Yeah, exactly. After it's born, is that going to indict me in any way?

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Yes, I believe that. Why does it take you so long to answer that question? It's too late. We already know. Just be honest.

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Yeah, right. Why is it taking you so long to answer the question? We have to at least point out that she is of the conviction that that baby has value when it's born, but let's point out over the last year, we've got two suggestions in two different states,

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California and Maryland, I believe, where they were arguing about legislation that would allow you to kill the baby up to 28 days or so after it's born.

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So maybe not so much, in their case, valuable when they're born. She thinks they are when they're born, at least.

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But not everyone believes that because not everyone holds to the dignity and humanity of other human beings.

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Even in her previous statement, I think she would probably qualify that statement with as long as the capable person who is aborting them or as long as they want them.

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As long as that capable person with agency wants the baby, then yes, they have value.

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But she didn't. She kept it simple, as far as I know. Yeah, and here's the next portion. A baby that is not yet born has value?

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I believe that a person with a capacity for pregnancy has value. They have intelligence. They have agency.

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I'm talking about the baby. And I'm talking about the person with the capacity for pregnancy. And you're not answering the question. I'm answering a more interesting question to me.

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Right there. I'm answering a more interesting question to me. I almost crashed when I heard that part because I was driving.

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That's a part of that delusion, that I have no way to organize my knowledge claims, so I am just going to talk about what

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I want to talk about. I can't answer your question because it would indict me morally. And so I'm just going to say the woman is supreme in this case.

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What's more interesting to me. Again, that's not going to work in the court of law. I'm asking you a direct question on a cross examination.

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Yeah, but I don't really like that question. Did you murder that person? How about I answer another question? She knows all about it.

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She's a lawyer. She knows all about not answering the question. Your Honor, that's a fantastic question.

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I'd actually like to answer a more interesting one to me. No, it doesn't work.

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She's a professor at Berkeley. What's interesting here is this is the key issue.

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In saying, how do I take down this argument? When a person says that, look, this person, this woman in front of me, she is to be valued.

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Right? Not the human being inside of her. I start asking the questions. Why? Why should

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I value this person? Why? Then you have to get them answering the question.

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Well, because it's a human being. Because she has bodily autonomy. Okay, I agree with both of those things.

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That that's a human being and the human beings are to have bodily autonomy. But here's the deal.

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If you make an argument about the value of a person, in this case the pregnancy capable person, if your argument is that they're human and they have bodily autonomy, then you just gave me the argument for abolition.

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Right? Because the argument for abolition is that. That's a human being in the womb and that human being in the womb has bodily autonomy.

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If you like the bodily autonomy arguments, welcome to the pro -life abolitionist

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Christian movement. That's our argument. Human beings are to be valued and given equal protection and you cannot do things to their bodies apart from their will or consent.

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Right? And so just you have to dissect the position they're standing on.

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Push through the emotional arguments that are used to manipulate the audience when these debates go down.

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Because, again, bodily autonomy arguments are Christian arguments and the problem is the body inside the mother's body is not her body.

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And so if you believe in bodily autonomy and you believe in the dignity of humanity and the value of humanity, then you have to say that we need to abolish abortion.

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A baby that is not yet born, let's say the day before the mother delivers, do you think that baby has value?

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I think that the person with the capacity for pregnancy has value and they should have the ability to control what happens to their lives.

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Didn't answer. Once again. So she was honest, but there was a little bit of an omission.

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Like, she didn't answer the question fully, but she was honest when she said, my concern is for the born person.

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I just note you refused to answer the question. Ms. Harrell. So there you go.

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Professor of Berkeley, two important clips. I'm sure we could do this for days and dissect more details about them.

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It just dawned on me. I thought it was hilarious how it's the senators or whoever,

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I don't know if it's a senator or congress, that's asking the questions and while she's being questioned she's like,

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I'd just like to note that blah blah blah. And it's like, no, you're not the one asking the question. You're not allowed to note anything.

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Just answer the question. My time. Can't answer the question. And I guess one of the things that is important about a show like this and engaging with this is we hope to encourage, inspire other brothers and sisters in Christ to recognize that you have to start engaging this stuff in the public square.

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And you can. Their position is suspended on nothing.

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And it is inconsistent. It is incoherent. And we need to just start engaging. We as Christians have to actually engage in the public realm, in the public square against this stuff.

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And we have to speak the truth against it because honestly it's not that hard to do. You just saw.

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And he just was like alright, I'll make a note that you didn't my notes that count I'll make a note that you refused to answer the question.

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And so only the light of the gospel can dispel this darkness.

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And so we have to start preaching it. We have to start teaching it. We have to get away from the modern

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Christian in the West mindset of like let me just be light. Let me just make friends.

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Let me try to make the life of Christ as attractive to others as I possibly can.

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I don't ever want to look like a meanie. I don't want to ever look confrontational. I just want to win people with my life.

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It's like, you know, it's a given that the Christian life is supposed to be light to the world and we're not supposed to be hypocrites and all of that.

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That's just a given. That's like identifying I'm wearing a blue suit today. Why are you stating the obvious?

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That's not the question. The question is how do you win someone to Christ? And the answer from Scripture is it's the gospel.

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It's the power of God for salvation. And so if you don't proclaim the gospel to the world around you, it's just going to be overcome with darkness.

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You can't hide your light. We sing songs about that as young people in church and it might be a silly

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Christian song to some, but actually it's profound. It's very profound. And so we have to start preaching the gospel to the world.

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We have to do it without neutrality and we've got to not link up with a

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Christ -less conservatism. We're not trying to make the world conservative in red states apart from Jesus Christ.

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We want people to know Jesus. We want this Berkeley professor to know Jesus. We want everyone to know Jesus. And the only way to do that is to call people to repentance and faith in Christ, to take down their arguments, every argument that exalts itself against the knowledge of God.

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We've got to take it down. And so we do shows like this and we engage with this stuff, not simply to laugh at it.

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Some of it is funny. Some of it is just stunning. But we do it to engage to say, look, the

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Christian worldview can engage with this. The Christian worldview can take this down. So start going out and preaching the gospel.

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Do it with love. Do it with grace. But do it. Do it sometimes with a serrated edge because it sometimes needs it.

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Sometimes you need to ask if your God is on the toilet. That's a good question to ask sometimes. Yeah.

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It is biblical. So apologiastudios .com is where you guys go to get more.

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Go to ReformCon .org to get your tickets. We have limited seating so you do need to get your tickets because when they run out, they run out.

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We have a great thing lined up for everyone with after party, with time to hang out and fellowship. We're going to have performances from some leaders in their fields, whether it's economics, whether it's education, whether it's sports, arts, all that stuff.

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It's an amazing lineup. You're going to get filled with truth. You're going to get encouraged and you're going to spend a lot of time with Christians who are going to be basically sent out to fight, to fight for the gospel.

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And it's a Christian conference. We're trying to make it like no other where you're going to just have a blast, a lot of fun. It's not just all talking, being talked to.

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Don't forget to pray for EndAbortionNow .com. Sign up with your church to come out and save lives. We just saved a baby here in Phoenix yesterday or two days ago, and today that mother and father are coming in to meet with one of our pastors.

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Oh, no way. I missed that. Yeah, because they want to no longer kill the baby, but put it up for adoption. Oh, praise

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God. How do you like that? Praise the Lord. So EndAbortionNow .com. Your church can be involved in exactly the same thing.

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It's all free. We train you for free. We equip you for free. Go there. EndAbortionNow .com to get involved.

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We've got stories happening constantly of what God does to these ministries. There's almost 900 churches globally who are doing all this work, and we have states that are coming and working on them right now with bills of abolition that we hope to have happening end of this year, beginning of next year.

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So pray for those, and if you can, please give at EndAbortionNow .com. We do need financial help to do this work.

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It does cost money to go to these states, to talk to these legislators, to get these things happening, to preach the gospel in conflict with abortion.

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