January 11, 2021 Show with Paul Murphy on “Reformed Evangelism & Urban Missions”

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This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Monday on this 11th

day of January 2021, and I am absolutely thrilled to have back on

the program a friend of mine who has not been on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio for quite some time.

He's an old friend of mine going back to the 1990s.

He was a client of mine when I was an account executive at WMCA

Radio and WWDJ Radio, which are affiliates

of Salem Media, the largest Christian radio network in the world, and I worked there for 15

years, and our guest today was one of my clients.

His name is Paul Murphy, and he is the pastor of Messiah's Reform Fellowship

in New York, New York, and today we are going to be addressing Reformed Evangelism and Urban

Missions, and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back after a long absence, Paul Murphy.

Well, good afternoon.

Good to be with you, Chris, and yes, I remember

it's

quite an instrument to all that are listening.

Great.

Well, why don't you tell our listeners

something

about

Messiah's

Reform

Fellowship?

Sure.

I wouldn't

recommend

anybody

start

a church

with.

Just, we

did.

In addition to

that, we have

planted a church

ourselves in a

dark place.

Amen.

One of the, if not the most, liberal and religiously and

ideologically diverse.

Mission fields on the planet

Earth.

Well, since you

are

in Gramercy

Park now, I

was wondering.

If you know my old friend, Reverend Jacob Smith, who is the

rector at the parish of Calvary St. George's Episcopal Church, which is actually a

theologically reformed, confessional, low church, Episcopalian church

there in Gramercy Park.

Actually, I do not, but it's true.

Well, you've got to meet

Reverend Jacob.

He's a great guy.

Jacob Smith, right?

Yes.

I've known him for many years, and he has been a guest on this program.

And I discovered that church actually years ago when Calvary Press

Publishing, which was first launched by my former pastor,

Mike Gaydosh, who now operates Solid Ground Christian Books, they brought back into

print an excellent book by Stephen Ting, who was the pastor of St. George's

in the 1800s, and he was a thoroughgoing Calvinist and strong 39 articles

confessional Episcopalian.

And I love this book so much that I wanted to find out more about that church and

where it was theologically and ideologically, and that's how I met Jacob.

And thankfully, the Lord used him, and I think those that were even

prior to him, to bring that church back to its reformed,

confessional, conservative, Bible -believing roots.

And it's amazing that they can still survive in that denomination.

In the 21st century.

Are they part of the...

Well, they are part of the Episcopal Church USA,.

Which is, as you know, an extremely liberal denomination,

and they have been able to survive without compromising their beliefs, which is

really amazing to me.

Yeah, that's great.

We're there.

When COVID's over, they're going to just...

Well, you've got to take a tour of.

St. George's sometime, because very different architecture than Calvary,

because Stephen Ting, who founded St. George's, was involved in the architecture, and

it is purposely a very

non...

What's the word I'm looking for?

As far from Romish as you could get.

No statues, a simple Lord's table with

no ornate carvings or paintings, very

typical of what was at the time low -church Episcopalianism slash

Anglicanism of the 19th century and prior.

And so it's...

And Jacob was giving me quite the fascinating tour of that

church building.

In fact, there was an assassination attempt on

some very well -known figure in the early 1900s, one of the

great billionaires of Manhattan, who was a member there.

There was an assassination attempt on him, and the bullet hole is still there.

And unfortunately, somebody else was accidentally killed.

And for that reason, the hospital was built

across the street by this billionaire.

And I can find out the exact name of that individual when I'm able to confirm who it was.

But he was so grieved over the fact that somebody else was murdered,

because there was an attempt on his life that he had the hospital built right across the street because the person died

because it took so long to get the person to the hospital.

I have been in there and graduated from

their commencement ceremony.

I've never been there.

I didn't even know that's where you were worshiping before the show.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, if anybody wants more information about Messiah's Reformed Fellowship in

Manhattan, you can go to M -E -R -F -N -Y

-C .org.

That's M -E -R -F -N -Y -C .org.

And M -E -R -F is an abbreviation of Messiah's Reformed Fellowship.

And hopefully, we'll remember to repeat that later on in the program.

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And so let's start with the first half of the theme of our program today,

which is Reformed Evangelism and Urban Missions.

Reformed evangelism.

Now, why would that necessitate a different

title?

Or at least, it wouldn't necessitate it, but it's helpful to understand, perhaps, with a

specific title like a Reformed Evangelism, as opposed to.

Broadly

Christian

or

Broadly

Evangelical

Evangelism.

Now,

when you

say

that

Reformed.

Evangelism makes every effort, if it's actually living up accurately to its

label, to a God -centered evangelism, a God -centered worship,

there are very few people that would be failing miserably on that

issue that would actually admit that they were not God -centered.

Obviously, we would think, being Reformed ourselves, that the majority of Christendom in the 21st century

is failing miserably in being God -centered in worship, in practice, in evangelism.

But nobody is typically going to say, well, we have designed our church to be more man -centered than God

-centered.

So how would you say a church accurately could be

described in both of those ways, one being the biblically faithful way,

being God -centered, and one being.

Man

-centered?

Sure, I

think that, you know, I

don't

want

to desire with all

that,

and I think

we'll

elaborate if

you'd like, but the other thing I found in working with people from various

charities, when I

was in seminary, we used to, I

led up a, and we would go out every Friday afternoon,

evangelists, we would

often go out with open -air

campaigners.

I don't know if you're, excuse me, are you familiar with them, Chris?

Yes, yes, I am.

Yeah, anyway, the people, but when we would

drive down from, they would be

praying, Lord, we pray that you would open people's hearts.

Lord, we pray that you would make a path for us, go before us

to hear the gospel, give them ears to hear, give them hearts, that we pray that

you would save people today.

We pray that you would bring people to yourself, which, of

course, but when they got down, they'd

say, well, God,

I do think that it's helpful to remember that people are often better than their theology, and

as a corrective to us who call ourselves Reformed,

if you'd

like.

Oh

yeah,

definitely.

Man

-centered

approach,

we

want

to, that, no, the

problem is that man needs a new mind, he needs a new heart, he needs a new will,

he

needs,

it's not lack of knowledge.

The Bible says in Romans 1, for example, no God.

They

don't lack

because they

love

sin,

and

Jesus Christ, you often have an emphasis on his crucifixion and

his death.

God's requirements from the Garden of Eden going forward was that man be

perfectly for disobedience,

so one

doesn't

need, you're

aware,

Christ is Christ.

It was a controversy 20, 30 years ago with John McArthur

up in California, and that you can have Jesus

as Savior, he doesn't have to be.

From everything that the Bible says, the attitude of submission to Christ's Lordship,

former Christ is not Lord.

Like, just in

promoting the idea that Jesus can be Savior without being Lord,

then you're promoted to be saved without any change of

behavior in your life, without any repentance, without any new

devotion to the Lord.

And I can't tell you how many people I've met over the years walking around the streets in New York, and, you know, generate

discussions when you're out on the streets and you find out somebody claims to be a Christian,

oh, whatever, but hear

Jesus say to

them,

you

know,

away from me, I never knew you,

you doers of

lawlessness.

In fact, if we

could pick

up right on the

invitation system when we.

Come back from our first station break, because that's a very important and controversial and

highly misunderstood area, and if anybody would like to join us on the

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And we are discussing reform evangelism and urban missions.

And right before the break, we were just starting to enter into a discussion

on the altar call system, also called the invitation

system, something that most, but not all, but the vast majority of

Reformed Christians reject, not only as being something unbiblical, but something being

ahistorical, something that really came into being after

the revivals of Charles Finney, who most Reformed Christians would view as a

very dangerous heretic.

But we have a listener who has a question that is on that

issue, so I figured I would take that listener's question

right away, now that we're back from the break.

And this is from Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina, a very long -time faithful

listener of the show, very generous supporter of the show.

Grady says, Greetings, brothers living in the South.

I find that most people will say they're Christians if you ask them, and that's

because of the invitation system.

They think it's enough to believe about Christ, and because they walked an aisle, were

baptized, and joined a church.

This is all they have to do.

No change of direction, just continuing on in their sin.

Was Charles Finney the inventor of the invitation system, or did it exist before

he made it popular?

I know it's done more to fuel easy believism than anything else I know.

That's Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina.

Do you have an answer,.

Paul?

Yeah.

Hi,

Grady.

What leads

to

that

is that

somehow

we have the power, we make a

decision,

and God

responds

to

the

Gospel,

recognize

them,

acknowledge

them mentally,

without

any

change

of walk, the sawdust trail, as is often said.

And once you do that, then you are often provided with assurance.

Nothing you do now can cause you.

You can be assured that because you prayed that

prayer, action in response, that you are now a Christian, God loves you, and eternal

destiny.

But that is not

from applying biblical promises to affecting a changed life.

And just for a moment, I'd like to also deal with the consequences,

as I mentioned that previously.

How do you deal with the concept of being misled into thinking

that easy believism, decisional regeneration, that by simply praying a

prayer, they're assured of salvation without any change in their life?

You have to turn to

those passages, like I mentioned earlier, Matthew chapter 7, where Jesus says,

away from me, you evildoers, right?

I never knew you, to false prophet,

and

follows him faithfully, then

that would apply to you as well.

I think other passages,

like

Corinthians, do you not know that the

unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?

Do not be deceived.

Neither the sexually immoral nor idolatrous adulterers, men who practice homosexuality,

inherit the kingdom of God.

Warnings, I

think, are

who apparently were, that they could live an

unchanged life, a profligate life, and still be assured of heaven as their eternal destiny.

And he warns them not to be deceived.

You mentioned, Grady, I think that's an approach

ahead, but I think, gently,

you can just say, your life doesn't

to the Bible.

And you ought to consider what Jesus, what the apostles say.

She had

undergone some

apparently in her younger years, and when she moved to New York, she was working with,

you would never know it, your life doesn't.

That really caused my wife to really think about what

it meant to be a Christian, and led her to where she is now.

That's interesting.

My dear friend, William Webster, who's a very well -known Reformed Baptist

author, has written things for Banner of Truth, and has published his own books as

well.

But his late wife, in fact, I interviewed her on her testimony,

she was raised in the Christian Reformed Church, and as you were saying before, sometimes

Reformed Christians are guilty of doing things that are not

necessarily the hallmarks of our theological system, that are

basically aberrancies from it.

And Bill's wife was raised believing she was a Christian, just

because she was raised in a Christian home.

And so, just because she was born of Christian parents, and baptized as an infant, and so on, that she

later came to realize that her life really gave no true evidence of

new life.

And she had a real difficult time of soul -searching, and

realized that she had come to believe that she was never saved to begin with, and she cried out to the

Lord and was truly saved.

And so, that's just an interesting providential thing that his wife

had a similar.

Circumstance that

yours did.

Yeah, yeah, I think that's been a

problem historically.

There's two things, actually, that are very important, I think, to clarify

in this discussion.

The first is that easy believism or cheap

grace, what we are basically talking about, when somebody believes that somebody can be

truly born again, and be headed for heaven,

and nothing's going to change that, and yet there has been no transformation, no evidence of a

rebirth in their life, that sometimes has been

an overreaction to the heresies of Roman Catholicism,

where a sacerdotal system of people believing that they

are not only becoming Christian, but maintaining and preserving their Christianity

through their obedience, through their observance of sacraments and rites and rituals,

and so on.

And some evangelicals have, running away from that or those heresies,

adopted other heresies, where repentance is not even a

necessity in the life of a person who can claim to be a Christian,

and that those that would dare, like you and I, Pastor Paul, that would dare to say, no,

repentance is an essential element of true salvation, they would even say very often that we are

guilty of teaching a works righteousness salvation and a Roman heresy.

Now, both of those.

Things are very dangerous and damnable,

aren't they?

Yeah, they are.

John MacArthur, you know, 20, 30 years ago, whenever that was, and today.

Well, we

have

to go

to our

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We are just continuing our discussion on Reform Evangelism and Urban Missions, and we would love to hear from

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And before I go to a listener question, Pastor Paul, I just wanted to have one more thing said about

the invitation system, because there are evangelicals who are

sometimes astonished, and they're disturbed, deeply

disturbed and shocked when they visit a reformed church, and they may even hear a

powerful message, a powerful message about sin and repentance.

And they say to themselves when the service is over, what?

There was no altar call?

What an opportunity for an altar call!

What an opportunity to get a soul saved at that point when

such a powerful, penetrating message was delivered.

And many folks, because that is their tradition that they know,

that if you are a person who believes in the Bible, if you believe in the necessity

of Christ's death, burial and resurrection and faith in Him

to be saved, they think that the altar call or the invitation system

is just as important as other elements of the service.

They might even, without calling it that, treat it as a third ordinance of the church.

And they know that liberals and leftists and apostates and many in the mainline churches who don't care about

salvation don't practice the invitation system or the altar call.

But that's for a completely different reason, isn't it?

Yes,

that

happens.

There

are

unbelievers

present in

a

corporate

worship setting, and

we should make the message comprehensible.

I'm not talking about watering it down at all, but being sensitive to the fact that people may not be

logical, vocabulary amongst Reformed people, and

therefore to that.

And I also think that unbelievers can be addressed in

that they...

Also, the term we're using, invitation system, might also confuse people when they are hearing

us saying that we reject it.

We do invite people to repent and flee to Christ, do we not?

And is there not a difference between that and saying that if somebody goes

through a physical motion of walking forward at an aisle to a so -called

altar, which in reality, historically, Protestant churches don't have altars.

It's a Roman Catholic phenomenon.

But to have somebody come forward and act as if this prayer

uttered by a minister that is parroted by the sinner, almost like

a magic spell or like a sacrament, is going to

bring that person to eternal life, even if there's no genuine change in the person,

that is what we're condemning, is the danger of giving people false assurance and even adding something to

the practice of the church that is unbiblical or not even existing in the scriptures

or in church history until rather.

Recently.

Yeah, I take

that

by the word.

Okay, we

have

an

anonymous

listener who says,.

I know that before you were talking about the difference between man -centered worship, which is false, and God

-centered worship.

And very often, we who are Reformed will point to churches that have

big rock performances with their praise and worship bands, where the congregation

itself is not really participating, but observing and, dare I say, even just being

entertained.

Well, before we only point the fingers at others, don't Reformed churches also have to be very careful

about some of our magnificent choral arrangements and choirs and even

classical performances of music that may be very acceptable and historical

and may have lyrics that are God -centered, but the congregation itself is

robbed of participation.

I'm not saying that those things should never take place, but don't they happen sometimes too often

and where the congregation, even in solid theological churches, are sitting back watching,

observing, and being.

Entertained?

Yeah,

many churches,

but

it needs

to

happen.

We want to

have

performances,

but

if

we want an

emphasis...

Well,

let's enter into

the second half of our theme today, which is urban.

Missions, and we were giving some of the reasons in the very beginning when I was

introducing you as to why there is a unique aspect of

urban missions.

They're very often places where liberalism or even

leftist totalitarianism have a stronghold, where people are more outwardly

in opposition to the gospel, to a literal understanding

of the scriptures and a view that they are truly God -breathed and that they

are inerrant and infallible, and that Jesus

Christ is the one and only way to salvation.

You have many urban areas, probably most, at least in the

northern part of the United States, where this is anathema.

This is the very antithesis of what love and

kindness are, and so, therefore, the gospel is

more outwardly an enemy than typically may be found in a more rural area,

where even if people are as dead as a doornail spiritually,

in the Bible Belt in many places, there are places where Christianity

is beloved, not when people are telling an individual to repent necessarily, but

the existence of the churches and the hearing of

gospel music and even preaching on the radio and television.

It's a part of Americana.

It's something that is just as American as hot dogs and baseball,

apple pie, etc., but if you could tell us specifically what you want to address about.

Urban

missions,

what

makes

it unique?

Yeah,

two -thirds of the

tiny area,

immigrants

and their children accounting for 60 percent,

at least there

are more Jamaicans in New York City than any city in

Jamaica, 100 ,000 Russians in

five boroughs.

I emphasize that.

We preach the gospel in accordance with the Great Commission.

You can

fulfill the Great

Commission with the

gospel of Jesus Christ, but we have a human

without ever leaving home, but it is the same, you don't

have to go here in New

York City, and

that's increasingly,

although there are 35

different nationalities, immigrants are feeling

a unique opportunity to reach them with the gospel,

and it's

interesting to have

had the gospel,

second, third,

descendants of, they

know what

the Bible is, but they by and large reject the other hand, have by and large

never heard of it.

Immigrants are often more open than

we

ought to recognize and capitalize on, and I think that historically,

seeing them

as those which are opposed to

Christianity, and we need to reconsider

what the Bible has to say about cities as well.

You know, the Bible

begins with the Great

Commission.

I'm imagining that a challenge of urban missions is

something that involves a phrase that I am about to use, that

I hear it regurgitated so much in the media that it makes my skin crawl, because it's

usually used in slanderous ways by leftists who

anchor people on news programs and hosts of talk shows, but I'm going to use the term

xenophobia.

People are hurling the accusation of xenophobia against anybody who

believes that we should take seriously illegal immigration into our country and that kind of a thing.

We're automatically labeled as a racist, and it's, they like, the leftists like

to appear to be intellectual, so they'll throw out the phrase

xenophobia on a daily basis, multiple times a day in the media, but they'll never define it.

But what it basically means, for those of you listening who don't know, it is a fear

of foreigners or a fear of anybody that's different from you.

So I'm assuming that a genuine challenge, when you're evangelizing, and you may have

a specific ethnic group in your area that you want to reach with the gospel, that there is a hurdle,

perhaps, that has to be overcome for these people to feel a certain

level of acceptance and welcome and safety

and peace and so on by entering through your doors without giving

them a false gospel message.

Now, obviously, our duty as Christians is not to make people feel comfortable in their

sin, but there is an aspect where we want people to feel comfortable

to know that we are not racists, we are not bigots, we don't

hate these people in our surrounding area who are from a different ethnic group

or color than maybe the.

Dominant presence in our church.

So

if you

could, just

touch

on what I've just

said.

When

you

look at

identified by God as close to him, them

when they and

on church

back in, I

think it

was

maybe

the 20s

or 30s, his

name was Albert

Heyschen, H -U -I -S

-J, he formulated a whole

mission where

the Dutch immigrants were located right next door

to Chicago or New York,

and I

think

last time

I checked, what 28 different nationalities in our

congregation, and

that's what unites us.

And it's a beautiful, beautiful reflection, multi

-ethnic, and yet,

oh, here you come to a kind of a different

torn about.

You can

have 28

different

nationalities

on how

they were into the church.

There wasn't an interrogation, there wasn't looking down their noses at anybody, there wasn't, you know,

judging anyone, they were just warmly welcomed.

Praise

God.

Those from out of every.

Tribe and tongue and people and nation.

And we're going to our final break right now.

It's a lot more brief than the last breaks.

If you have a question you'd like to ask, send it in immediately because we are rapidly running out of time.

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Please feel free to contact me if you have more questions about Grace Church at Franklin.

Our website is gracechurchatfranklin .org.

That's gracechurchatfranklin .org.

This is pastor Bill Sousa wishing you all the richest blessings of our Sovereign

Lord God Savior and King Jesus Christ today and

always.

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Welcome back and this is our final segment of today's.

Interview with Paul Murphy of Messiah's Reformed Fellowship in Gramercy Park in New York City.

We are at this section of the show focusing on urban missions and

our email address is ChrisArnzen at gmail .com.

ChrisArnzen at gmail .com.

We have RJ in White Plains, New York who wants to know does Pastor Murphy have any

practical advice on how we can overcome the xenophobia in

different racial and ethnic groups in our area that may be preventing them from

coming into our church to visit our worship services just out of fear that they might be treated with bigotry

or hostility.

Sure.

Projects

which

are a

curriculum

with

feature in

New

York

City.

Any

potential

antagonism.

So you serve the community.

Did

anyone from your congregation or does anyone from your.

Congregation speak the foreign languages of those that are coming

to these meetings or are you able to teach English as a second language without knowing their

the audience's native tongue?

I'd like you to have now about four minutes of uninterrupted time where you can

summarize all that you most want to be etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners.

Today

before they leave

this

program.

Sure.

Well what I would like

to

leave.

Oh God has

sent.

We need to

to see them come to know Jesus Christ as we

want them to.

Of course that

is the great end.

As great an end as it is

the great end we need to

want to do.

Would say all teaching about evangelism is done when that's

received by churches.

The received often with enthusiasm of people want to program their church.

If your heart

for the gospel then

you don't need

program

pertains to

are in desperate need.

As we've talked about liberalism and secular humanism

we are engaged in an ideological.

Corinthians 10 says we do not fight with weapons of

we are

involved in an ideological

that reign in our cities by

the Spirit of God and

by the Word of God that comes from the Word of God that is living and active and

sharper than any two -edged sword.

And rather than shrink back in defeat or shrink back in fear we ought to go

boldly not arrogantly not defiantly not as Bible bangers not shoving it down people's

throats and in

reigning Lord in

the affairs of men and nation

from sin

which ultimately will empty lives and

ultimately prove amen.

And once

again the.

Website for the messiah's reform fellowship in Gramercy Park New York City is m er f

nyc .org m e r f nyc .org.

I also want to invite our listeners to join me on January 28th in Mifflinburg

Pennsylvania to attend an event with Vody Balcom who is going to be speaking

against critical race theory.

And if you want more information on registering for that event uh

you can contact uh Jacob Tanner who is orchestrating this event

and his email address is jacob at mount bethel mcclure

and that's m t b e t h e l m c c l u r e dot

com.

You can also send me an email and i'll make sure you get that information to chris arnson at gmail .com.

Chris arnson at gmail .com.

I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater savior than you

are a sinner.