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January 11, 2021
PAUL MURPHY, pastor @ Messiah’s Reformed Fellowship, New York, New York, who will address:
“REFORMED EVANGELISM & URBAN MISSIONS”
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Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, Lake City, Florida, and the rest of humanity living on the planet Earth who are listening via live streaming at ironsharpensironradio .com. This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Monday on this 11th day of January 2021, and I am absolutely thrilled to have back on the program a friend of mine who has not been on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio for quite some time.
He's an old friend of mine going back to the 1990s. He was a client of mine when I was an account executive at WMCA Radio and WWDJ Radio, which are affiliates of Salem Media, the largest Christian radio network in the world, and I worked there for 15 years, and our guest today was one of my clients.
His name is Paul Murphy, and he is the pastor of Messiah's Reform Fellowship in New York, New York, and today we are going to be addressing Reformed Evangelism and Urban Missions, and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back after a long absence, Paul Murphy.
Well, good afternoon. Good to be with you, Chris, and yes, I remember it's quite an instrument to all that are listening. Great. Well, why don't you tell our listeners something about Messiah's Reform Fellowship?
Sure. I wouldn't recommend anybody start a church with. Just, we did. In addition to that, we have planted a church ourselves in a dark place.
Amen. One of the, if not the most, liberal and religiously and ideologically diverse.
Mission fields on the planet Earth. Well, since you are in Gramercy Park now, I was wondering.
If you know my old friend, Reverend Jacob Smith, who is the rector at the parish of Calvary St. George's Episcopal Church, which is actually a theologically reformed, confessional, low church, Episcopalian church there in Gramercy Park.
Actually, I do not, but it's true. Well, you've got to meet Reverend Jacob. He's a great guy.
Jacob Smith, right? Yes. I've known him for many years, and he has been a guest on this program. And I discovered that church actually years ago when Calvary Press Publishing, which was first launched by my former pastor, Mike Gaydosh, who now operates Solid Ground Christian Books, they brought back into print an excellent book by Stephen Ting, who was the pastor of St. George's in the 1800s, and he was a thoroughgoing Calvinist and strong 39 articles confessional Episcopalian.
And I love this book so much that I wanted to find out more about that church and where it was theologically and ideologically, and that's how I met Jacob. And thankfully, the Lord used him, and I think those that were even prior to him, to bring that church back to its reformed, confessional, conservative, Bible-believing roots.
And it's amazing that they can still survive in that denomination.
In the 21st century. Are they part of the... Well, they are part of the Episcopal Church USA,.
Which is, as you know, an extremely liberal denomination, and they have been able to survive without compromising their beliefs, which is really amazing to me. Yeah, that's great.
We're there. When COVID's over, they're going to just... Well, you've got to take a tour of.
St. George's sometime, because very different architecture than Calvary, because Stephen Ting, who founded St. George's, was involved in the architecture, and it is purposely a very non... What's the word I'm looking for?
As far from Romish as you could get. No statues, a simple Lord's table with no ornate carvings or paintings, very typical of what was at the time low-church Episcopalianism slash Anglicanism of the 19th century and prior.
And so it's... And Jacob was giving me quite the fascinating tour of that church building. In fact, there was an assassination attempt on some very well-known figure in the early 1900s, one of the great billionaires of Manhattan, who was a member there.
There was an assassination attempt on him, and the bullet hole is still there. And unfortunately, somebody else was accidentally killed. And for that reason, the hospital was built across the street by this billionaire.
And I can find out the exact name of that individual when I'm able to confirm who it was. But he was so grieved over the fact that somebody else was murdered, because there was an attempt on his life that he had the hospital built right across the street because the person died because it took so long to get the person to the hospital.
I have been in there and graduated from their commencement ceremony. I've never been there.
I didn't even know that's where you were worshiping before the show.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, if anybody wants more information about Messiah's Reformed Fellowship in Manhattan, you can go to M-E-R-F-N-Y-C .org. That's M-E-R-F-N-Y-C .org. And M-E-R-F is an abbreviation of Messiah's Reformed Fellowship.
And hopefully, we'll remember to repeat that later on in the program. If anybody would like to join us on the air with a question of your own, our email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com. C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N gmail .com.
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And so let's start with the first half of the theme of our program today, which is Reformed Evangelism and Urban Missions. Reformed evangelism. Now, why would that necessitate a different title? Or at least, it wouldn't necessitate it, but it's helpful to understand, perhaps, with a specific title like a Reformed Evangelism, as opposed to.
Broadly Christian or Broadly Evangelical Evangelism. Now, when you say that Reformed.
Evangelism makes every effort, if it's actually living up accurately to its label, to a God-centered evangelism, a God-centered worship, there are very few people that would be failing miserably on that issue that would actually admit that they were not God-centered.
Obviously, we would think, being Reformed ourselves, that the majority of Christendom in the 21st century is failing miserably in being God-centered in worship, in practice, in evangelism. But nobody is typically going to say, well, we have designed our church to be more man-centered than God-centered.
So how would you say a church accurately could be described in both of those ways, one being the biblically faithful way, being God-centered, and one being.
Man-centered? Sure, I think that, you know, I don't want to desire with all that, and I think we'll elaborate if you'd like, but the other thing I found in working with people from various charities, when I was in seminary, we used to, I led up a, and we would go out every Friday afternoon, evangelists, we would often go out with open-air campaigners.
I don't know if you're, excuse me, are you familiar with them, Chris? Yes, yes, I am. Yeah, anyway, the people, but when we would drive down from, they would be praying, Lord, we pray that you would open people's hearts.
Lord, we pray that you would make a path for us, go before us to hear the gospel, give them ears to hear, give them hearts, that we pray that you would save people today. We pray that you would bring people to yourself, which, of course, but when they got down, they'd say, well, God, I do think that it's helpful to remember that people are often better than their theology, and as a corrective to us who call ourselves Reformed, if you'd like.
Oh yeah, definitely. Man-centered approach, we want to, that, no, the problem is that man needs a new mind, he needs a new heart, he needs a new will, he needs, it's not lack of knowledge. The Bible says in Romans 1, for example, no God.
They don't lack because they love sin, and Jesus Christ, you often have an emphasis on his crucifixion and his death. God's requirements from the Garden of Eden going forward was that man be perfectly for disobedience, so one doesn't need, you're aware, Christ is Christ.
It was a controversy 20, 30 years ago with John McArthur up in California, and that you can have Jesus as Savior, he doesn't have to be. From everything that the Bible says, the attitude of submission to Christ's Lordship, former Christ is not Lord.
Like, just in promoting the idea that Jesus can be Savior without being Lord, then you're promoted to be saved without any change of behavior in your life, without any repentance, without any new devotion to the Lord.
And I can't tell you how many people I've met over the years walking around the streets in New York, and, you know, generate discussions when you're out on the streets and you find out somebody claims to be a Christian, oh, whatever, but hear Jesus say to them, you know, away from me, I never knew you, you doers of lawlessness.
In fact, if we could pick up right on the invitation system when we.
Come back from our first station break, because that's a very important and controversial and highly misunderstood area, and if anybody would like to join us on the air with a question of your own for Pastor Paul Murphy of Messiah's Reformed Fellowship in Manhattan, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com.
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In his design. Thank you. Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen. If you have just tuned us in, our guest today for the entire program today is Paul Murphy, who is pastor of Messiah's Reform Fellowship in Gramercy Park, New York City, and if you would like to join us on the air with a question, our email address is chrisarnzen at gmail .com.
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And we are discussing reform evangelism and urban missions. And right before the break, we were just starting to enter into a discussion on the altar call system, also called the invitation system, something that most, but not all, but the vast majority of Reformed Christians reject, not only as being something unbiblical, but something being ahistorical, something that really came into being after the revivals of Charles Finney, who most Reformed Christians would view as a very dangerous heretic.
But we have a listener who has a question that is on that issue, so I figured I would take that listener's question right away, now that we're back from the break. And this is from Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina, a very long-time faithful listener of the show, very generous supporter of the show.
Grady says, Greetings, brothers living in the South. I find that most people will say they're Christians if you ask them, and that's because of the invitation system. They think it's enough to believe about Christ, and because they walked an aisle, were baptized, and joined a church.
This is all they have to do. No change of direction, just continuing on in their sin. Was Charles Finney the inventor of the invitation system, or did it exist before he made it popular? I know it's done more to fuel easy believism than anything else I know.
That's Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina. Do you have an answer,.
Paul? Yeah. Hi, Grady. What leads to that is that somehow we have the power, we make a decision, and God responds to the Gospel, recognize them, acknowledge them mentally, without any change of walk, the sawdust trail, as is often said.
And once you do that, then you are often provided with assurance. Nothing you do now can cause you. You can be assured that because you prayed that prayer, action in response, that you are now a Christian, God loves you, and eternal destiny.
But that is not from applying biblical promises to affecting a changed life. And just for a moment, I'd like to also deal with the consequences, as I mentioned that previously. How do you deal with the concept of being misled into thinking that easy believism, decisional regeneration, that by simply praying a prayer, they're assured of salvation without any change in their life?
You have to turn to those passages, like I mentioned earlier, Matthew chapter 7, where Jesus says, away from me, you evildoers, right? I never knew you, to false prophet, and follows him faithfully, then that would apply to you as well.
I think other passages, like Corinthians, do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral nor idolatrous adulterers, men who practice homosexuality, inherit the kingdom of God.
Warnings, I think, are who apparently were, that they could live an unchanged life, a profligate life, and still be assured of heaven as their eternal destiny. And he warns them not to be deceived. You mentioned, Grady, I think that's an approach ahead, but I think, gently, you can just say, your life doesn't to the Bible.
And you ought to consider what Jesus, what the apostles say. She had undergone some apparently in her younger years, and when she moved to New York, she was working with, you would never know it, your life doesn't.
That really caused my wife to really think about what it meant to be a Christian, and led her to where she is now.
That's interesting. My dear friend, William Webster, who's a very well-known Reformed Baptist author, has written things for Banner of Truth, and has published his own books as well. But his late wife, in fact, I interviewed her on her testimony, she was raised in the Christian Reformed Church, and as you were saying before, sometimes Reformed Christians are guilty of doing things that are not necessarily the hallmarks of our theological system, that are basically aberrancies from it.
And Bill's wife was raised believing she was a Christian, just because she was raised in a Christian home. And so, just because she was born of Christian parents, and baptized as an infant, and so on, that she later came to realize that her life really gave no true evidence of new life.
And she had a real difficult time of soul-searching, and realized that she had come to believe that she was never saved to begin with, and she cried out to the Lord and was truly saved. And so, that's just an interesting providential thing that his wife had a similar.
Circumstance that yours did. Yeah, yeah, I think that's been a problem historically.
There's two things, actually, that are very important, I think, to clarify in this discussion. The first is that easy believism or cheap grace, what we are basically talking about, when somebody believes that somebody can be truly born again, and be headed for heaven, and nothing's going to change that, and yet there has been no transformation, no evidence of a rebirth in their life, that sometimes has been an overreaction to the heresies of Roman Catholicism, where a sacerdotal system of people believing that they are not only becoming Christian, but maintaining and preserving their Christianity through their obedience, through their observance of sacraments and rites and rituals, and so on.
And some evangelicals have, running away from that or those heresies, adopted other heresies, where repentance is not even a necessity in the life of a person who can claim to be a Christian, and that those that would dare, like you and I, Pastor Paul, that would dare to say, no, repentance is an essential element of true salvation, they would even say very often that we are guilty of teaching a works righteousness salvation and a Roman heresy.
Now, both of those.
Things are very dangerous and damnable, aren't they? Yeah, they are. John MacArthur, you know, 20, 30 years ago, whenever that was, and today. Well, we have to go to our midway break right now.
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And before I go to a listener question, Pastor Paul, I just wanted to have one more thing said about the invitation system, because there are evangelicals who are sometimes astonished, and they're disturbed, deeply disturbed and shocked when they visit a reformed church, and they may even hear a powerful message, a powerful message about sin and repentance.
And they say to themselves when the service is over, what? There was no altar call? What an opportunity for an altar call! What an opportunity to get a soul saved at that point when such a powerful, penetrating message was delivered.
And many folks, because that is their tradition that they know, that if you are a person who believes in the Bible, if you believe in the necessity of Christ's death, burial and resurrection and faith in Him to be saved, they think that the altar call or the invitation system is just as important as other elements of the service.
They might even, without calling it that, treat it as a third ordinance of the church. And they know that liberals and leftists and apostates and many in the mainline churches who don't care about salvation don't practice the invitation system or the altar call.
But that's for a completely different reason, isn't it?
Yes, that happens. There are unbelievers present in a corporate worship setting, and we should make the message comprehensible. I'm not talking about watering it down at all, but being sensitive to the fact that people may not be logical, vocabulary amongst Reformed people, and therefore to that.
And I also think that unbelievers can be addressed in that they...
Also, the term we're using, invitation system, might also confuse people when they are hearing us saying that we reject it. We do invite people to repent and flee to Christ, do we not? And is there not a difference between that and saying that if somebody goes through a physical motion of walking forward at an aisle to a so-called altar, which in reality, historically, Protestant churches don't have altars.
It's a Roman Catholic phenomenon. But to have somebody come forward and act as if this prayer uttered by a minister that is parroted by the sinner, almost like a magic spell or like a sacrament, is going to bring that person to eternal life, even if there's no genuine change in the person, that is what we're condemning, is the danger of giving people false assurance and even adding something to the practice of the church that is unbiblical or not even existing in the scriptures or in church history until rather.
Recently. Yeah, I take that by the word. Okay, we have an anonymous listener who says,.
I know that before you were talking about the difference between man-centered worship, which is false, and God-centered worship. And very often, we who are Reformed will point to churches that have big rock performances with their praise and worship bands, where the congregation itself is not really participating, but observing and, dare I say, even just being entertained.
Well, before we only point the fingers at others, don't Reformed churches also have to be very careful about some of our magnificent choral arrangements and choirs and even classical performances of music that may be very acceptable and historical and may have lyrics that are God-centered, but the congregation itself is robbed of participation.
I'm not saying that those things should never take place, but don't they happen sometimes too often and where the congregation, even in solid theological churches, are sitting back watching, observing, and being.
Entertained? Yeah, many churches, but it needs to happen. We want to have performances, but if we want an emphasis... Well, let's enter into the second half of our theme today, which is urban.
Missions, and we were giving some of the reasons in the very beginning when I was introducing you as to why there is a unique aspect of urban missions. They're very often places where liberalism or even leftist totalitarianism have a stronghold, where people are more outwardly in opposition to the gospel, to a literal understanding of the scriptures and a view that they are truly God-breathed and that they are inerrant and infallible, and that Jesus Christ is the one and only way to salvation.
You have many urban areas, probably most, at least in the northern part of the United States, where this is anathema. This is the very antithesis of what love and kindness are, and so, therefore, the gospel is more outwardly an enemy than typically may be found in a more rural area, where even if people are as dead as a doornail spiritually, in the Bible Belt in many places, there are places where Christianity is beloved, not when people are telling an individual to repent necessarily, but the existence of the churches and the hearing of gospel music and even preaching on the radio and television.
It's a part of Americana. It's something that is just as American as hot dogs and baseball, apple pie, etc., but if you could tell us specifically what you want to address about.
Urban missions, what makes it unique? Yeah, two-thirds of the tiny area, immigrants and their children accounting for 60 percent, at least there are more Jamaicans in New York City than any city in Jamaica, 100 ,000 Russians in five boroughs.
I emphasize that. We preach the gospel in accordance with the Great Commission. You can fulfill the Great Commission with the gospel of Jesus Christ, but we have a human without ever leaving home, but it is the same, you don't have to go here in New York City, and that's increasingly, although there are 35 different nationalities, immigrants are feeling a unique opportunity to reach them with the gospel, and it's interesting to have had the gospel, second, third, descendants of, they know what the Bible is, but they by and large reject the other hand, have by and large never heard of it.
Immigrants are often more open than we ought to recognize and capitalize on, and I think that historically, seeing them as those which are opposed to Christianity, and we need to reconsider what the Bible has to say about cities as well.
You know, the Bible begins with the Great Commission.
I'm imagining that a challenge of urban missions is something that involves a phrase that I am about to use, that I hear it regurgitated so much in the media that it makes my skin crawl, because it's usually used in slanderous ways by leftists who anchor people on news programs and hosts of talk shows, but I'm going to use the term xenophobia.
People are hurling the accusation of xenophobia against anybody who believes that we should take seriously illegal immigration into our country and that kind of a thing. We're automatically labeled as a racist, and it's, they like, the leftists like to appear to be intellectual, so they'll throw out the phrase xenophobia on a daily basis, multiple times a day in the media, but they'll never define it.
But what it basically means, for those of you listening who don't know, it is a fear of foreigners or a fear of anybody that's different from you. So I'm assuming that a genuine challenge, when you're evangelizing, and you may have a specific ethnic group in your area that you want to reach with the gospel, that there is a hurdle, perhaps, that has to be overcome for these people to feel a certain level of acceptance and welcome and safety and peace and so on by entering through your doors without giving them a false gospel message.
Now, obviously, our duty as Christians is not to make people feel comfortable in their sin, but there is an aspect where we want people to feel comfortable to know that we are not racists, we are not bigots, we don't hate these people in our surrounding area who are from a different ethnic group or color than maybe the.
Dominant presence in our church. So if you could, just touch on what I've just said. When you look at identified by God as close to him, them when they and on church back in, I think it was maybe the 20s or 30s, his name was Albert Heyschen, H-U-I-S-J, he formulated a whole mission where the Dutch immigrants were located right next door to Chicago or New York, and I think last time I checked, what 28 different nationalities in our congregation, and that's what unites us.
And it's a beautiful, beautiful reflection, multi-ethnic, and yet, oh, here you come to a kind of a different torn about. You can have 28 different nationalities on how they were into the church. There wasn't an interrogation, there wasn't looking down their noses at anybody, there wasn't, you know, judging anyone, they were just warmly welcomed.
Praise God. Those from out of every.
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Interview with Paul Murphy of Messiah's Reformed Fellowship in Gramercy Park in New York City. We are at this section of the show focusing on urban missions and our email address is ChrisArnzen at gmail .com.
ChrisArnzen at gmail .com. We have RJ in White Plains, New York who wants to know does Pastor Murphy have any practical advice on how we can overcome the xenophobia in different racial and ethnic groups in our area that may be preventing them from coming into our church to visit our worship services just out of fear that they might be treated with bigotry or hostility.
Sure. Projects which are a curriculum with feature in New York City. Any potential antagonism. So you serve the community. Did anyone from your congregation or does anyone from your.
Congregation speak the foreign languages of those that are coming to these meetings or are you able to teach English as a second language without knowing their the audience's native tongue? I'd like you to have now about four minutes of uninterrupted time where you can summarize all that you most want to be etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners.
Today before they leave this program. Sure. Well what I would like to leave. Oh God has sent. We need to to see them come to know Jesus Christ as we want them to. Of course that is the great end. As great an end as it is the great end we need to want to do.
Would say all teaching about evangelism is done when that's received by churches. The received often with enthusiasm of people want to program their church. If your heart for the gospel then you don't need program pertains to are in desperate need.
As we've talked about liberalism and secular humanism we are engaged in an ideological. Corinthians 10 says we do not fight with weapons of we are involved in an ideological that reign in our cities by the Spirit of God and by the Word of God that comes from the Word of God that is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword.
And rather than shrink back in defeat or shrink back in fear we ought to go boldly not arrogantly not defiantly not as Bible bangers not shoving it down people's throats and in reigning Lord in the affairs of men and nation from sin which ultimately will empty lives and ultimately prove amen.
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Website for the messiah's reform fellowship in Gramercy Park New York City is m er f nyc .org m e r f nyc .org. I also want to invite our listeners to join me on January 28th in Mifflinburg Pennsylvania to attend an event with Vody Balcom who is going to be speaking against critical race theory.
And if you want more information on registering for that event uh you can contact uh Jacob Tanner who is orchestrating this event and his email address is jacob at mount bethel mcclure and that's m t b e t h e l m c c l u r e dot com.
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