Scheduled Political Talk, Divine Plot Twist | EP 26

Divine Providence in the Trump Assassination Attempt

And I think we have to say that he's not the savior and we have to be careful. We're not elevating this man higher than Jesus Christ. We're not even saying that. We're not even confident that he's a Christian.

We just think that maybe God is using him to help run the country, not as a born again.

Christian.

We're hoping and praying that's the case, but we're just saying this guy is a much better choice than the alternative.

And welcome to Tearing Down High Places.

My name's Average Joe. Nice to have you today. Today, we've got Seth Brickley as our honored guest. Welcome to the show, Seth.

It's great to be back, guys.

Fantastic. Let me say hi real quick to our pastors in the house, as per usual. Pastor Tim.

Hi, Joe.

Hi, Pastor Jeff.

Greetings.

All right. Today's show is going to be exciting. We had planned several weeks ago to talk about the presidential election because why? Well, it's Republican Convention Week, but we had no idea, guys, did we, the things that we're going to transpire leading up to this convention, especially this weekend.

So I also have a video to share with you guys that I want to get your reaction on. It may lead us down to a conversation about God's providence. So let's see that video real quick. Take a look what happened, Joe.

Take a look what happened, Joe.

Whoa.

What do you guys think of that?

Wow.

Yeah, remarkable.

What's happening in that video? You got the real image up top and then like an AI generated or some kind of TikTok.

I think it's called geospatial.

Geospatial of where his head was.

Geospatial recognition that takes a graphic representation out of the video, it extracts it and then replays it and then you can add layers just like they do in any of the video.

Editing.

They're adding layers on top of layers. So I don't know if the bullets trajectory, I can't even speak to the accuracy of it, but I mean, you can see from the video compared to the geospatial rendering below it, it's super accurate from that point of view.

I mean, I can't see the bullets, but you can hear the sound effects of it to the pop and which would be just at that second.

Wow.

What do you guys think? Could God providentially have Donald Trump move like that for a purpose right in that very moment as the gun was shot? Because that was a peculiar even like the microphone is here and normal people talk like this.

He literally turned all the way like this and was like horizontal with the microphone. Not many speakers really do that.

Hey, if Genesis one, one's true, I do think it's possible.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

I was watching a sniper, an experienced sniper explained that this shot would be performed accurately nine times out of 10 by a beginner. He was only, I think a hundred, 130 some yards away, a clear shot and remarkable that that he, that he missed and he only missed of course, because he turned his head at the last minute.

Yeah.

So, so yeah, to answer your question, Tim, we know what the Bible says about the providence of God. Ephesians one 11 says that all things happen according to the counsel of his will. Proverbs 16, 33, the lot is cast into the lap, but it's every decision is from the Lord.

There are no random events.

Amen. R .C.

Sproul said there's not one maverick molecule in the universe, so yeah, this is God protecting the life of former president Trump. In fact, Psalm 91 talks about, we need not fear the arrow that flies by day or the pestilence that stalks at night, but God is covering us with his wings and he clearly watched out for president Trump.

He has yet more of a purpose for him. And I think it got, you got to see more of Trump's true character, even getting hit with the bullet. I mean, the guy's almost 80 years old, takes a little bullet to the, to the ear, but still has the presence of mind to just be like, yeah, you know, I don't know what he was yelling, but he just looked very bold.

I liked that as well. That was awesome.

And that was like Braveheart.

He was yelling fight. He was yelling fight. I was texting with another brother over the weekend about that and we're like, we're not sure what that F is, but if he's getting hit with a bullet, we're going to give him a little grace.

Right.

I think he got some street cred too. I think that's going to end up working to his, his benefit.

He's so focused, he's so focused to be saying fight, fight. I mean, I, I, I would have been probably the death bomb.

When you think of some of the iconic pictures in American history, that picture with him with the flag in the background, with his face bloody, his, his fist up, secret service carrying him off. I mean, that, that's, that's like, that's like you and Dima.

That's like somebody's grandpa, you know?

Very cool.

So everyone's saying he's planned it now because of that.

Right.

So it's so perfect. It's so perfect. It's so providential that of course, Trump planned to get shot in the ear.

Somebody planned it.

Somebody did plan it.

It couldn't have been done by humanity because the, the odds of turning just that slight second for just the fact that God allowed him to get hit in order to have blood on his.

Face.

It shows everyone just how close it was so that nobody could say, ah, these bullets, you know, he was just shooting, taking pot shots from a distance or something. Wasn't that close. It shows that it was God who saved his life.

Yeah.

Have you heard the comparisons to Leviticus eight, 23 no eight, 23. Moses, Moses slaughtered the ram and took some of its blood and put it on the lobe of Aaron's right ear. So now he's part of the Levitical priesthood.

That sounds more like the Bible code kind of stuff to me. You know how like numerology out of the scripture and everything.

Yeah.

I brought that up.

I like it.

It's fun.

But no, I'm not going to give you that one.

You're not going to go on that side of the ditch. You're not going to go that far and anoint Donald Trump.

He is not for you. You know, he's not a Levitical priest.

Trump, Globalism, and the Hatred of an Outsider

But I think one thing we need to consider here is the hatred toward this man. It's I mean, it's rare to see this deep of hatred directed toward one man. And we see it, of course, with Donald J. Trump.

And we've seen it. And this is nothing new. Right. It goes back all the way to when he was running for the presidency back in 2015 and 2016. Where do you guys think this is? This hatred is coming from?

Why?

Why is this?

From the platform worldview difference between the Republican National Convention. Yesterday, I read the whole platform in the RNC. And the difference between that and the Democratic National Convention, they still have their 2020 out.

They haven't brought out the new one. But the desire to murder babies versus the Republican platform, which is to save the lives of babies and not just with abortion, but with the LGBTQ agenda and pushing so many of these things that there is a qualitative difference between these two platforms.

That's the difference. It really comes down to different worldviews.

Go ahead, Joe.

What about now? I'm watching this convention and I'm seeing a whole lot of promotion of homosexuality. And this is this big tent thing now has sin issues included, you know, certainly not. We're protecting life, but we're not recognizing a lot of a lot of bad stuff.

Yeah.

Of what they're platforming at the convention. I agree.

Yeah.

But this hate for Trump has been like for a long time. When I was in California, I lived in California for like three months during his first election and or in 2020. And I went on a dating site for maybe I think I had it downloaded for 10 minutes.

And every girl that was on there, it would show like a little profile, every single one of them. I'm going to say 99 out of 100. It started with like F Trump. I hate Trump. Trump is bad. Like something bad about him.

And I'm just like, is this like real people or is this like big tech or something? I have no clue. But I just deleted the app. But I thought it was insane that so many people hated him. I believe that if anybody else had been elected in 2016, by 2020, the same outrage and hatred would have been there.

Do you remember when George H .W. Bush was the president and Jeremiah Wright was saying things like, not God bless America, goddamn America, he said. And then he said, because you're killing innocent people and he has these reasons.

The primary person that he thought was Hitler at that time was George H .W. Bush. Think about that. Because he thought that Bush was like this extremist of conservatism. Think about that. George W. Bush, an extremist of conservatism, which is absolutely not true at all.

What we see, what we see is Trump is, he's this great enemy of globalism. And I just want to look at some of the policy, some of the things he did in his first term. He declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel.

He kept America out of wars and the world was a safer place. Of course, immigration, strong on immigration. Oil production in America. So he's against the climate change agenda. He supported Americans to find lockdowns.

And I know, of course, there's the whole Operation Warp Speed thing that he was involved in. But he was an opponent of Anthony Fauci. I mean, that's clear. When John MacArthur opened up his church in the summer of 2020, Donald Trump called John MacArthur to support him in opening his church, right?

So you see a man who is, who hates globalism. I mean, he's an American first guy. I mean, think of his opponents here, Klaus Schwab, Yuval Noah Harari. Is that a name you guys are familiar with? I mean, he's about as evil as it gets.

Bill Gates, the Democratic Party in America, which includes, of course, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton. I mean, all the big names. He pulled America out of the World Health Organization.

Love that.

Yeah.

I mean, he's against NATO. He's against the mainstream media. He's against academia. And of course, and here's the connection with us, the elite evangelicals can't stand him either.

Right.

Which is interesting.

Joe, I got to send you a video I took yesterday. Maybe you can even get it into this episode. I don't know if you can cut and paste later. I took it on my cell phone.

Okay.

Curtis Chang from The After Party, who we talked about last week.

Yeah.

The After Party is so-called evangelicals, Russell Moore, David French, Curtis Chang. Well, he was doing a question and answer time on a Zoom call, and I jumped on it. And he was even less guarded on that Zoom call than he is in The After Party for public consumption.

He said that he's voting for Joe Biden.

Wow.

That's an episode in itself, Jeff. We got to interact with Curtis Chang because I'm telling you what, you resonated with a lot of people with last week's episode. You know, that was

Well, whether you put it in there or not, I can say this much for this week. There is leftist evangelicals, some of them probably funded by Soros, who are political operatives trying to move evangelicalism, which has been united, 85%, united around the ethics of Christianity in the public square, reflected in the Republican National Convention platform, not in everybody that they put on the platform, but in their actual written policies.

You have leftist progressives who are trying to move evangelicalism away from the truth of the Christian ethic.

And it's working, though. I mean, the Hegelian dialectic, every time I look, they're doing that. I mean, isn't that what homosexuality is? We're going to take the LGBTQ++ and we're going to accept the G and throw out the rest as the Republican Party.

Yeah, so you're saying the Republicans aren't pure.

Heck to the no.

I have that. Actually, I've got a confession, guys. While I really want Donald Trump to win, and I was very, very happy with a lot of the things that Seth brought up, although I think he needs to confess a little poor management with Fauci and that.

He's not taking any accountability for that. But I've never voted for Trump. And I may still not. So you guys got this episode to convince me. I'm still leaning towards RFK because I live in Jersey, and I think a vote for RFK is a vote for Trump in a blue state like New Jersey.

That's a bombshell, Joe. I just see that as no shot, though. If you think Trump has no shot, I also think RFK has no shot. So I don't see the difference of your vote going to RFK or Trump. You know what I mean?

Why not just vote for Trump? Because I think he'll still beat RFK, no?

Here's the thinking. Here's the thought process. In New Jersey, totally blue, completely blue, in our state primaries, the Trump-backed candidate. And now the shooting the other day may change all this upside down.

So I don't really know. But in the primary last month, the Trump-backed candidate, a woman, was not only did she lose to a homosexual man who's a Republican. She got pummeled. She wasn't even close. So in the Republican primary, Trump's not carrying New Jersey in the Republican primary.

However, everything that happened last week could change everything. So I don't know. But I don't think I trust polls. And so I'm not sure. But in a state where RFK is extremely liberal, but nobody's happy with the establishment.

So in New Jersey, too. I mean, we finally got Menendez thrown in jail or convicted the other day. Unfortunately, I think that's just in time for Biden to pardon him on the way out.

So I just want to get my hands around Operation Average Joe.

So how does this help to vote for RFK?

Is the idea that maybe RFK could win New Jersey?

RFK could beat Biden in New Jersey. I mean, Biden's a walking corpse. Am I going to vote for... But if I'm a never-Trumper in New Jersey, I could pull the lever for RFK. I'm never pulling that, Trump.

So if...

But see, wouldn't that not make any sense if some of the Biden people are going to vote for RFK? That works to Trump's favor. Now people just... People who are supposed to vote for Trump just continue with Trump.

And then he beats both of them.

You know, Tim, I know you're in the trenches here in New Jersey. And you're witnessing to all the heathen. Maybe you don't know how many heathen there are. But hey, this is a blue state.

South Carolina seems to be like a split. Just I think North Jersey probably is mainly Democrat, right? I like how Joe's thinking outside of the box. I just don't think the math is there. I think Trump will probably get like 45 of the votes in all of New Jersey.

The problem is that Biden's going to get 55%. And so, you know, RFK is just... Maybe it's like 60 to 40 or something like that.

If he couldn't carry the primary candidate, right? That means he got 25 of the total vote max.

What did he get in 2020?

Oh my gosh.

I mean, I don't know. The numbers were so...

He's going to do better than 2020.

Now that he's like Braveheart. So I was looking at something that said, Ronald, I wasn't alive at this time. Maybe some of you guys were. But it says when Ronald Reagan was running for president, someone attempted to assassinate him.

And the entire country turned red.

And then they voted him.

Yes.

He had a landslide in his first election, too.

Reagan had a landslide in his first election, too. He lost one state in his first election and one state in his second election.

Oh, okay. My home state, Minnesota.

It's Minnesota.

Yeah, that's what it says here.

That's where Mondale was from. And he lost Georgia in the first election against Jimmy Carter.

That's where Jimmy Carter was from.

Yeah, the assassination attempt was in 1981. So the next election wasn't until 84.

There's another video.

I should have grabbed that video. And there's another video of Ronald Reagan speaking in Berlin, I think. And he's after his assassination attempt. And they're comparing Trump to this. Because while he's speaking, a balloon pops in the audience.

And Ronald Reagan goes like this.

Missed me.

And then he continues to speak.

It's just a miracle. It is so fascinating.

By its very existence and character, Berlin remains the most compelling argument for an open world. We're reminded of the many traditions of openness and democracy that have marked the history of this city.

Amir, missed me.

Yeah, so what's interesting, guys, I think that if you look back at Bush and Kerry and Romney and Obama, those elections, I think it was an establishment candidate versus an establishment candidate, even though it was Republican and Democrat.

What happened in 2016 was different in the sense that Donald Trump is this outsider. He's one of those guys. He isn't going to do what he's told. He's going to do what he wants to do. He just makes his own decisions, right?

And the Republican Party, the establishment, he terrified them because of that. So I think that even though Bush was hated, no question about it, even though McCain was hated when he ran in Romney, even Romney was hated.

It was tolerable. We really don't like this guy, but we can tolerate him. With Trump, look at what's happened. During his first term as a president, and I'm saying first term because I'm hopeful that there will be a second term.

During his first term, he was impeached twice. And then, of course, in his reelection bid, once he starts running for president and they realize he's running again, he goes through all these legal issues where they're trying to find a crime, right?

They're trying to throw him in jail. And of course, we want to be careful how we say this because we don't know everything with the Thomas Matthew Crooks shooting here. But to say that this is isolated from all of that, I think would be naive.

Things have just been ramped up, impeachment, jail, assassination attempt. So I find that very interesting. He is a threat. He's an existential threat to this evil globalistic push that we see taking place all over the place in America and all over the world.

Globalism, the Beast System, and the Restrainer

Pastors, do you guys think the average Christian sees how wicked and potentially church-crushing the globalist agenda is?

I think those who watch a lot of the Calvary Chapel and kind of End Times teachers have been more aware, like Jack Hibbs and Understanding the Times with Jan Markell and Amir Safari. There's a number who are focusing on what's happening with globalism.

But I think most have not been aware of where this world goes. Because ultimately, what's going to happen is a one-world government, Babylon, mystery Babylon, with a one-world religion. And that is what falls in Revelation 17 and 18 at the end of the tribulation.

So it has to gain momentum.

It has to gain speed. And it's restrained.

That's the key point that we need to focus on.

That's good.

The restrainer is holding it back until the restrainer is taken out of the way. Who is the restrainer of 2 Thessalonians 2, 7?

Who is he?

The pronoun he. It's the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit ministry in the church is what is restraining this mystery of lawlessness. So there will be an antichrist. There's been many antichrists in the world, and many have wanted to unify the world in a one-world government.

But the restrainer has kept it at bay. God has been doing that through the church. Did you know that Donald Trump does have a boss? He does submit to someone. I just watched a clip recently where he said, Oh, I have a boss.

There's a boss higher than me. And then he went on to say, A lot of people tell me that I'm the most famous man in the world. And I tell them, I'm not the most famous man in the world. And they say, well, who is?

And Trump said, Jesus Christ.

Amen. Man. Yeah.

And he says, it's not even close.

Yes.

There are people who point out the fact that he said he never repents. That's true. He said that.

I saw that.

Nothing has changed. And maybe it will change even more now that he knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that only God spared his life by making him turn like this. The second that a bullet whizzed by his head.

There's actually a video that I saw of a, I think he was a pastor or a prophet or I'm not sure if it was legit. But apparently he made this video and prediction that Donald Trump was going to get shot in the ear and his eardrum was going to be hurt or something.

And then he was going to fall on his knees and become a born again Christian. And this was predicted before it happened. So apparently, I have to look into it, but I saw it floating around on the internet.

I think it was Jeremiah Johnson. Who's famous as part of the prophetic camp. A bit of the NAR kind of prophet. And he shut down his ministry in 2021 because he had predicted Trump into the White House.

Oh, he started his ministry under a different title. He's back again. Now I saw that video. The problem is I haven't been able to validate because I went to his own website to see if he and there's no video with him saying that three months ago, but it's on TikTok.

So is it possible that he said that the day it happened? I kind of said, you know, I don't know if it's true or not.

Because I do believe God could do that.

God could give a prophetic word. I watched it. I was like, what?

He said that?

I'm hopeful that it's true.

I hope it is true.

When he was down, he prayed to the Lord and then the Lord brought him back up. And then he really was a true Christian. And he's going to lead the whole nation. If Jeremiah Johnson said that three months ago, that's crazy.

That is awesome.

But I got it. I hope he did say it three months ago.

Yeah.

But we'd be naive to just take it because someone put three months ago on TikTok, you know?

Right. Yeah.

That's why I have to look more into it.

Yeah.

I think one of the great weaknesses of the anti -social justice evangelicals, this is a critique I'm offering, is they don't often talk about the relationship between this problem and eschatology, right?

And how the social justice movement, what is it? I mean, it's this oppressor, oppressed system that gives power to a small group of people who frankly want to rule the world. And they're all globalists, right?

And Jeff, I'll read this here. Revelation 13, verses 5 through 8. So we don't know how long it's going to take, but this is where the world is heading. And Donald Trump, in God's wisdom, is an obstacle to this.

I mean, think about that. I mean, all his agenda is against, I mean, even if he's not a born, I don't believe he's a born again Christian yet. I mean, let's pray that he becomes one. But it's remarkable.

Do you think he's a lot like Cyrus of Persia?

Yes, that's a good comparison.

Yeah, that's a great comparison. I like that.

I was going to say Nebuchadnezzar before he occurs.

Well, and guys, as we connect this with evangelicalism, American evangelicalism, think of how naive a lot of these men, you know, I mean, the Tim Kellers, you know, John Piper. I mean, I used to read up everything John Piper wrote.

I loved John Piper until I started to realize, you know, this liberal drift that was there, this progressiveness that seemed to be in his heart. You know, he had sympathies towards social justice, no question about it.

And even when the COVID stuff came out, he was forgetting the jab. And I'm thinking, like, he might not know this, but he's actually supporting this beast system that's coming on the world. And it's really frightening when you think about it, to be honest with you.

As the non-pastor in this quad, I want to say how important it is for me to have my pastor help me look at current events, you know, and I feel sad for any Christian who's going to a church where that's not happening.

Because my Christian worldview is not as strong as it should be. I've been steeped in this cultural trash for so long. And, you know, to be able to discern really what's going on through a biblical lens is the thing we need to promote, to provoke even revival, you know?

Amen.

So one of the things that struck me when I read the Republican National Convention platform is that they explicitly call for protecting religious liberty and standing up for Christians when Christians are being persecuted.

It wasn't that big of a deal before 2020. But in 2020, you have in Canada, Pastor James Coates thrown in jail for resisting big government, the rise of big government and its totalitarian control over churches.

It could happen again. And the same people who were doing this kind of thing are part of that globalist system. So things like forcing masks upon the faces of Christians in church, forcing or requiring injections.

And I didn't catch, Seth, what you said about Piper and that.

And then he was saying, he wrote an article saying, get the jab. I mean, saying it was the moral, the right thing to do. And, you know, just following, I don't know if he is following Francis Collins instructions, but we know that Big Eva elite establishment, they're all connected in this group think.

Didn't you tell me one time that Piper registered as a Democrat?

Correct.

Yeah, and this is a bombshell. My wife is an eyewitness to this.

So you can't possibly be a true Christian if you're a Democrat.

There we go.

Yeah, so, I mean, there's actually been documentation about people like, you know, Tim Keller was a lifelong registered Democrat. Mark Dever, of course, Jeff, you know, Mark Dever was a registered Democrat.

You showed paperwork to show that.

Yeah.

So John Piper. So my wife was, look, she actually had a really silly infraction for tinted windows. And she was always bothered that it was on her record. You know, and so there is actually this site where you could actually see things that are on your record.

And she went on there to see if it was on there and it wasn't on there anymore. And you can actually look up other people on this site as well to see their records. And I was just kind of joking. I'm like, oh, let's try John Piper.

And she types in John Piper's name. And what comes up on there is, I remember this vividly. I wish I would have taken a picture of it. But I mean, I'm sure it's still on there. It was, I believe it was February 2012, registered Democrat.

And think about this. November of 2012 is when Obama ran against Mitt Romney. So I'm just, I mean, it makes sense that, well, apparently he voted for Obama in the 2012 election. Now, he didn't vote for Obama in the 2008 election.

I know that. So Piper has not been a lifelong Democrat like a Tim Keller and possibly a Mark Dever. But you see this kind of thinking here, though. There's this connection between this globalistic, this beast system that is coming on this world, this social justice push, this COVID -19, climate change.

I mean, the WHO organization, I mean, it's all connected, right?

But Romney is all about that. Romney was a globalist. Romney is a globalist and a Mormon. And he implemented a more socialistic version of Obamacare than Obama did. So, I mean, if I'm John Piper, why wouldn't I vote for racial healing over globalism?

It makes more sense. And I didn't want to talk about Piper. I don't know why it just kind of came up in this conversation. But Piper wrote that book, Bloodlines. And in that book, it shows he has a social justice understanding of race.

So that's been his weak point. So if you have one candidate where you can elevate Black voices and the other, well, he's a Mormon anyway. And they're both compromised. Why not just pick this compromise over that compromise?

But even in the 2012 election, the difference between the Republican National Convention platform and the movement and trajectory of it versus the Democrat was enormous. I mean, you talk about Obergefell was yet to happen at that point in 2015.

The LGBTQ agenda being pushed and foisted all upon our country, the socialist economics, because all that Barack was advocating for was healthcare being centralized by government, Obamacare, all of these things.

It's socialism. There were so many other things. It just seems to me that Piper is one of the best expositors of Scripture. When he just opens the text and says, this is how this word relates to that word.

Look at the book, circle and underline, make connections and handle the text. Well, he's the best. But why does that not translate into Christian ethics and applying those in the public square? That's what I can't understand about it.

And there's a video of him where he was asked, can a Christian vote for Obama? And of course, we said, absolutely not. But he said, well, it's the time. I know people in my church who did. I was always bothered by that answer.