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August 6, 2020
Dr. RON McKINNEY, pastor of Kinsey Drive Baptist Church, Dalton, GA, who will address: “The PRACTICAL, BIBLICAL & CORRECTIVE IMPORTANCE of the DOCTRINE of ADOPTION”
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I'm thrilled to have back as a returning guest, someone who has become one of my very favorite guests, Dr. Ron McKinney. He is pastor of Kinsey Drive Baptist Church in Dalton, Georgia, and today we are addressing the theme, The Practical, Biblical, and Corrective Importance of the Doctrine of Adoption.
And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Ron McKinney.
Thank you, sir.
Yes, the pleasure is all mine, brother. And tell us about Kinsey Drive Baptist Church in Dalton, Georgia.
Well, the church is based on grace, on Christ, is what I would say, mostly. Amazing grace. I don't work, but we've been able to have a great influence. I've been here for 30 years, the church, and I have some very sweet and godly people, people that I love, and they seem to love me.
Well, you're easy to love, brother. I'm sorry?
I appreciate that. I believe almost immediately, for those that are in Christ, today when we're talking about adoption, that we have this witness of one another, knowing that we are in Christ, and having a relationship with the Lord gives us a relationship with those that are in Christ.
Praise God. I notice that you are live streaming our discussion on Facebook. I'm assuming both sides of the conversation can be heard. Am I right?
They can.
Great. Great.
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Well, you have selected this topic. It's a very important topic, and I have addressed the issue of adoption before on the show, but it's one of those doctrines that is so central to the Christian faith, and I think often overlooked, that I think it bears repeating.
Yes, sir. I think about the apparent much excited about the fact that he had these great thrills. Alien family is the only thing he can enjoy. It has been given a very small place, and it's strange that there are very few of the 19.
I want to read some to illustrate this. J .F. Packard cautiously passed when he was, being with him, when I got to pray with him. That doesn't make me any more scared. Has there been at any time since the Reformation, former teaching of the Christian life, so notably deficient here, which is one reason why legalistic misunderstandings of it.
From J .I. Palogin, and he certainly knew what the modern day puritan theology. Yes, sir. And he had written, if I were, and just as he stated, was something that was missed. Now Luther, as he said, may have had a grasp.
The men in Calvin practically ignored it, and others that...
That is quite bizarre, because...
It is.
If anybody should be speaking about, and declaring, and articulating, the doctrine of adoption, it's those who are Reformed Christians, Calvinists.
Absolutely. Now, I have a reason, I think, why that has happened. It's one of the things. But let me, first of all, I want to... Of the important people who understand comfort, and joy. Loving Father, who spent time with me, and taught me, and loved me, created a tremendous experience together.
We talk about a heavenly Father, and everything he's doing, he is doing for, not anything outside of that. Even the trial... Let me tell you, she, and her husband, and their children, about four children, I believe, and they attended.
I noticed, even when she was... He was a loving person, but... Time, and I talked with her. And what had happened is that she, and her time was about 14 or... She told me, she said, you know, he loves me.
At the same time, I think of the sin, in a way. You are received in the Beloved. An everlasting love, you know? And she, time, understanding, adopted. Amazing how it transformed. Now, I think a lot of people live with doubt, failings, and they don't understand.
God loves us. Tragedy, and with mysterious... Where do you go? To whom do you run? I go to the Father. Said, blessed be the God, and thought... Eulogize God, to praise the... We have all for Him in love.
Salvation...
You are, because this is one of those aspects of my Christian life that was absolutely revolutionized after coming to embrace the doctrines of Sovereign Grace. I know that, as you probably have heard, there are many in the Reformed faith who complain that far too many Christians have made the Christian faith overly personal and individualized, where they should be thinking of the corporate body.
Well, that might be true. But at the same time, when I discovered the doctrines of grace, it became infinitely more personal to me, because I recognized that God in His Son, Jesus Christ, did not just die on the cross for a faceless, nameless sea of humanity.
He died for me, and He also, as the Father, adopted me. And even the wording of adoption is a far more personal thing than predestination, even though I believe predestination is an individual thing. The word itself just rings more clearly with a personal relationship with God.
It is. There's an intimacy about it. What a relationship we have with Him. I call Him Papa. I mean, He's my God. And because of that, I have a relationship with Him. I can go to Him with anything from Him.
Then, what I do is that I might have forgiveness and know that I am forgiven. Back in 1980, speaking at a conference, and the doctrine depicts everything else. I'm not dealing with God as my judge. I'm dealing with Him as my Father.
Now, there are house rules that are more dealing with my Father than it is dealing with a judge. My Father is forgiving. He's loving. And He will provide what I have to do. Now, let me mention this. It is important, the doctrine of 75 years, to say this.
But the Bible comes up in some way. I know a man in our city that actually teaches universalism. And yet, he doesn't know you are of your own. Even that we were the children of this chief that translated into the king.
One of the ones that we've been warned on on theonomy. And I just simply bring this up about what this is really. In turn, contingent is that and working them out in the church and in society. We do not know a believer does not aim at full obedience to by that kinds of laws.
This statement is nothing more or less. Oh, one thing I do want to say.
Since I have had many theonomists on my show as guests. And I happen to have theonomists who are friends that I love and brothers. That perhaps one day we can have you on with a theonomist to have a friendly, brotherly discussion about the differences since you find them so important.
I am not a theonomist. But I do not feel as great a distance from them as you do.
Well, I won't tell you. Greg Monson was a personal friend of mine.
Another good friend of mine. Another good friend of mine.
These are friends of mine. I political stem. I'm not trying. It's not what I'm trying to do is from what I under trying to just destroy any relationship. At the same time, you have to deal with issues, of course, here.
Now, etymology of by the Apostle Paul to do with and the other is the family. Placing of a son. In fact, I think I've not received whereby we even we are so waiting for the one in Galatians under the law that Jesus Christ find leave place and condition of not naturally belong.
John Murray defines that this is an act of trans translated children, which actually means son, which means child. Are we using the right word?
In fact, that's where we're going to pick up where you left off about the translation of children to sons. Or should I say the in your opinion, the most frequently made error in that text is the translation of children.
We'll pick up where you left off because we have to go to our first break. If anybody wants to join us, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com chrisarnson at gmail .com. Give us your first name, at least your city and state of residence and your country of.
Residence.
If you live outside the USA, only remain anonymous. If your question involves a personal and private matter, we'll be right back with Ron McKinney after these messages.
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This is Chris Einzen. If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the fascinating discussion of adoption, the doctrine of adoption, is my friend Dr. Ron McKinney, pastor of the Kinsey Drive Baptist Church in Dalton, Georgia.
If you have any questions about this doctrine, you can give us an email. Send us an email at chriseinzen at gmail .com. Chriseinzen at gmail .com. Give us your first name, at least your city and state of residence, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA.
Please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter. I had to cut you off because we were going through a station break, and you were talking about how on occasion there are things that you believe English translators have made errors on, and you were talking about one particular verse where the word for sons has been, in your opinion, incorrectly translated children.
Yes.
Pick it up where you left off.
We need to understand that God treats us, God treated us as men, as the idea of anything as far as the Jews were concerned, and among the Romans, the spy and the child from his parent would be given to the magistrate, and the present father said to the child, are you willing to be my son?
I'm willing to be my son according to the money, according to the new father, assuming his name, being subject to his authority, and was made a legal heir. When we talk about talking about what God comes as sons, not as a son, that's very important.
Now, sonship of the designation, even the father of our Lord Jesus, he never associates between and then secondly there is the, you know, Mars Hill, in him we live in the sense that God has created us.
If we are the productivity, and then call that to a remote connection to the father, and then the third believer, but his whole meaning of adoption, this adoption is dependent upon the whole.
Okay, and can you, first before we do that, I have a listener question. We have Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, and the question is, isn't the doctrine of adoption one of those even more clear doctrines, perhaps, that speaks of God adopting individuals rather than a large group, if not everyone, because it would make absolutely no sense if he were adopting everyone, and yet many, if not most, were still damned.
How could they possibly be his adopted children, if indeed they would spend an eternity in hell?
Well, you know, that kind of thing, sons, and you know, we're all brothers, that's contrary to all of scripture, that we, Christ, and then we are called by the Holy Spirit, we become a relationship that now we have.
Everybody has that, and he's fond. It's an indigenous thing, because I think the realization of it is something. The point is, Dan, that now our family of God, and Christ being my brother, and my Lord and Master, is my Savior.
And I wanted to say something of clarification also, I don't know if Susan, I don't know if our listener, Susan Margaret, intended this in her question, so I don't want to jump to a conclusion, but there is a misconception that we who are believers in the doctrines of Sovereign Grace believe that the elect are a tiny number of people.
We believe that it is an enormous number of people, I mean, more than the grains of sand and stars in the heaven.
Yeah, I mean, the number is certainly, in fact, we're taught that they're from every nation, kindred, tribe, and tongue, and they're going to be, so God numbered them by choosing His names. He didn't have to choose anybody.
In fact, if God is trying to go and write nobody, salvation is not anything with Him, and He perfectly redeems us on the cross. When He went to the cross, He died for His people. That's what the angel said at random.
Their names, their names, who's the foundation of the world. You see, you know, when we talk about God's salvation, it's something in the triune God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen. And if you just tuned us in, our guest today is Dr. Ron McKinney. And he is on our program for the full two hours today. Before we return to our discussion, the practical, biblical, and corrective importance of the doctrine of adoption, I have some important announcements to make.
First of all, tomorrow on the program, we have returning for a part two interview with Adam B. Dooley. In fact, Adam was highly recommended by my guest today, Dr. Ron McKinney, which is where I first heard about Adam.
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And Dr. McKinney, if you could pick up where you left off there.
It's the time when the spirit applies. It becomes holding today. In fact, we have a, we have a question from a listener I'd like to ask now at this point.
We have from CJ in Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York. Isn't the doctrine of adoption one of those corrective areas of falsehood where people will say that we are all children of God? I have even heard professing evangelical Christians who are talk hosts on Fox News say things like that, where they lump into the same group.
Those of all religions, we're all children of God. And this could not be farther from the truth, because all but those who are truly born again are children of the devil, are they not?
Oh, yes. You are of your father, the devil.
That includes us before our regeneration. That includes us before our regeneration, am I right? And before.
Our conflict, what we, what is hellish. When we say that God is the, no God has been amazing to me, is that I'm telling you, and I see that is calling me to see who's in control of all of this. Come to him and give him, and not everybody's going to understand.
Be added unto you, truly American. No, make it and make it an honor to preach Christ and him. We need to come to worship and praise.
And we have another question from Bobby in Hartsdale, New York. And Bobby asks, isn't the doctrine of adoption also a reminder to us not to be overly harsh in our judgment and criticism of our precious brothers and sisters in Christ who disagree with us over matters?
I am not saying that we should have a modern day ecumenical mindset where we are embracing as brothers those that deny the gospel. Please don't get me wrong. But I am talking about when we set ourselves up in judgment against brothers who truly have embraced the gospel, but who obviously teach and believe things that are secondary or tertiary in their importance.
We must remember that they have been adopted as we have been, that we are all from the children of Satan. We are all from the same lump of clay. And it is only by the mercy and grace of God that we have been rescued from that and adopted by God.
And this should remind us to be more loving and caring and patient with our own brothers and sisters.
Amen.
And I agree with that 100%.
I've had some cooperation from a lot of people.
There is a difference between someone who has beliefs that either are in contradiction to the very gospel itself or the doctrine of the triune Godhead or the deity of Christ or some of these pillars of the faith.
There is a difference between that and somebody who has a different view of eschatology. Although I think that someone who, for instance, is a hyper-preterist is a heretic and outside the true brotherhood in Christ because they're denying, I think, essentials.
They're denying the future resurrection and the future return of Christ. But somebody who... I know churches that disfellowship people who at one time shared in their pre-tribulational dispensational understanding of the... and times and things like that.
And they have been disfellowshipped. They've been written off as heretics. And I think that that's absurd. I think that there is, as we were just saying, there is a difference between things that are pillars of the faith and essential and those things that leave room for debate amongst brothers in Christ.
I will... At one time, we had various eschatological decisions. One historical premillennialism, anomalism, and postmillennialism. Congregation and... I mean, there were good decisions. But then there are other things that I think, for instance, sometimes when somebody sees... shown that there's certain situations trying to be an antinomian or treat each other kindly.
Yes, I do actually. We have Harrison in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. And Harrison...
I know where that is.
You know where Mechanicsburg is? Yeah, it's just one town over from me.
Yeah, I've been there.
Let's see here. And Harrison in Mechanicsburg says, What are some of the erroneous views of adoption that we should be on the lookout for in the church that might be prominent today?
Well, I think there are very few... ...of evangelical church would not even think related to what we have today in adoption. The adoption from what we call, there may be similar... ...because I have two and I love them dearly.
They're precious. When we talk about Nikon, but one of the things that happened is that two youths, where they come in and they would have five Roman citizens to witness it. And they would buy this child and they would become part of their family.
And that was the... In terms of... They have very... But it is the greatest... I believe it's the greatest blessing, the highest blessing that we can have in this life. Knowing that we have... And He loves us and He cares for us.
Everything He does for us. And one of the beautiful things is, is when you see it and it's full, it gives you a salvation. Live any way I want to. No, no, no. I am in Him. I'm in Christ. And He is caring for me.
And all of my needs will be met according to His riches in glory. We have... That is sure. Had leukemia. And we went through that right now. She's had some problems. But it's been 20, 23 years ago. But what I'm saying is, all of that time, I could go to Him for...
And to know that He cares for me more. Because I think it is so wonderful to know.
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Thank you.
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I'd like to. We might say that this never just come into our lives. We don't know.
We have another listener who has a question. We have, let's see here, I was just looking at the question. Oh, it's from John in Bangor, Maine, who asks, Is not the adoption that God mercily bestows upon those who are his own a very vivid picture of the permanence and eternality of the fact that we become his children?
Adoption is a very powerful word in my opinion that would remove the idea of God giving away those whom he has adopted or even throwing away as those outside of the sovereign grace of God believe that someone could be adopted and yet still go to hell.
Now that's, that's a, there's a sense, one of the interest. You adopted children in the court. If you, you know, it's born to your, into your family, that they can disown you as parents. Are you convinced that you cannot charity?
We have no he that endures friend. We have, and that's such a, well, I'd like you to give us.
At least two minutes of summary of what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners today regarding adoption.
Okay, I'll do that. Formity to Christ likeness in being the rod of courage rather to remembering that the same God who grace and grace and mercy.
Amen. Well, I want to make sure our listeners have your contact information. Again, the website for Kinsey drive. Baptist church of Dalton, Georgia is Kinsey drive. Baptist church .com. That's K I N S E Y drive.
Baptist church .com. And also folks, I don't want you to forget. If you can, please join me in Scranton, Pennsylvania on the 28th and 29th of August, Friday and Saturday, the 28th and 29th for the ACBC conference that stands for the association of certified biblical counselors.
And that is going to be on the theme, the basics of biblical counseling. And it's going to be held at high point Baptist church in Larksville, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Scarsdale. And I keep saying Scarsdale, a suburb of Scranton, Pennsylvania.
And if you want to register, go to biblical counseling .com forward slash Scranton dash PA dot dash training. That's biblical counseling .com forward slash S C R A N T O N dash PA dash training. And you could also get more details on the venue.
High point Baptist church of Larksville, Pennsylvania at high point Baptist church, high point Baptist church. Thank you so much. Dr. McKinney. And thank you everybody who listened today. I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater savior than you are a sinner.