August 6, 2020 Show with Dr. Ron McKinney on “The Practical, Biblical, & Corrective Importance of the Doctrine of Adoption”

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The Practical, Biblical, and Corrective Importance of Adoption

I'm thrilled to have back as a returning guest, someone who has become one of my very favorite guests, Dr. Ron McKinney. He is pastor of Kinsey Drive Baptist Church in Dalton, Georgia, and today we are addressing the theme, The Practical, Biblical, and Corrective Importance of the Doctrine of Adoption.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Ron McKinney.

Thank you, sir.

Yes, the pleasure is all mine, brother. And tell us about Kinsey Drive Baptist Church in Dalton, Georgia.

Well, the church is based on grace, on Christ, is what I would say, mostly. Amazing grace. I don't work, but we've been able to have a great influence. I've been here for 30 years, the church, and I have some very sweet and godly people, people that I love, and they seem to love me.

Well, you're easy to love, brother. I'm sorry?

I appreciate that. I believe almost immediately, for those that are in Christ, today when we're talking about adoption, that we have this witness of one another, knowing that we are in Christ, and having a relationship with the Lord gives us a relationship with those that are in Christ.

Praise God. I notice that you are live streaming our discussion on Facebook. I'm assuming both sides of the conversation can be heard. Am I right?

They can.

Great. Great.

And for those of you who want to find out more about Kinsey Drive Baptist Church of Dalton, Georgia, go to KinseyDriveBaptistChurch .com. KinseyDriveBaptistChurch .com. And Kinsey is spelled K-I-N-S-E-Y, DriveBaptistChurch .com.

Well, you have selected this topic. It's a very important topic, and I have addressed the issue of adoption before on the show, but it's one of those doctrines that is so central to the Christian faith, and I think often overlooked, that I think it bears repeating.

Yes, sir. I think about the apparent much excited about the fact that he had these great thrills. Alien family is the only thing he can enjoy. It has been given a very small place, and it's strange that there are very few of the 19.

I want to read some to illustrate this. J .F. Packard cautiously passed when he was, being with him, when I got to pray with him. That doesn't make me any more scared. Has there been at any time since the Reformation, former teaching of the Christian life, so notably deficient here, which is one reason why legalistic misunderstandings of it.

From J .I. Palogin, and he certainly knew what the modern day puritan theology. Yes, sir. And he had written, if I were, and just as he stated, was something that was missed. Now Luther, as he said, may have had a grasp.

The men in Calvin practically ignored it, and others that...

That is quite bizarre, because...

It is.

If anybody should be speaking about, and declaring, and articulating, the doctrine of adoption, it's those who are Reformed Christians, Calvinists.

Absolutely. Now, I have a reason, I think, why that has happened. It's one of the things. But let me, first of all, I want to... Of the important people who understand comfort, and joy. Loving Father, who spent time with me, and taught me, and loved me, created a tremendous experience together.

We talk about a heavenly Father, and everything he's doing, he is doing for, not anything outside of that. Even the trial... Let me tell you, she, and her husband, and their children, about four children, I believe, and they attended.

I noticed, even when she was... He was a loving person, but... Time, and I talked with her. And what had happened is that she, and her time was about 14 or... She told me, she said, you know, he loves me.

At the same time, I think of the sin, in a way. You are received in the Beloved. An everlasting love, you know? And she, time, understanding, adopted. Amazing how it transformed. Now, I think a lot of people live with doubt, failings, and they don't understand.

God loves us. Tragedy, and with mysterious... Where do you go? To whom do you run? I go to the Father. Said, blessed be the God, and thought... Eulogize God, to praise the... We have all for Him in love.

Salvation...

You are, because this is one of those aspects of my Christian life that was absolutely revolutionized after coming to embrace the doctrines of Sovereign Grace. I know that, as you probably have heard, there are many in the Reformed faith who complain that far too many Christians have made the Christian faith overly personal and individualized, where they should be thinking of the corporate body.

Well, that might be true. But at the same time, when I discovered the doctrines of grace, it became infinitely more personal to me, because I recognized that God in His Son, Jesus Christ, did not just die on the cross for a faceless, nameless sea of humanity.

He died for me, and He also, as the Father, adopted me. And even the wording of adoption is a far more personal thing than predestination, even though I believe predestination is an individual thing. The word itself just rings more clearly with a personal relationship with God.

It is. There's an intimacy about it. What a relationship we have with Him. I call Him Papa. I mean, He's my God. And because of that, I have a relationship with Him. I can go to Him with anything from Him.

Then, what I do is that I might have forgiveness and know that I am forgiven. Back in 1980, speaking at a conference, and the doctrine depicts everything else. I'm not dealing with God as my judge. I'm dealing with Him as my Father.

Now, there are house rules that are more dealing with my Father than it is dealing with a judge. My Father is forgiving. He's loving. And He will provide what I have to do. Now, let me mention this. It is important, the doctrine of 75 years, to say this.

But the Bible comes up in some way. I know a man in our city that actually teaches universalism. And yet, he doesn't know you are of your own. Even that we were the children of this chief that translated into the king.

One of the ones that we've been warned on on theonomy. And I just simply bring this up about what this is really. In turn, contingent is that and working them out in the church and in society. We do not know a believer does not aim at full obedience to by that kinds of laws.

This statement is nothing more or less. Oh, one thing I do want to say.

Since I have had many theonomists on my show as guests. And I happen to have theonomists who are friends that I love and brothers. That perhaps one day we can have you on with a theonomist to have a friendly, brotherly discussion about the differences since you find them so important.

I am not a theonomist. But I do not feel as great a distance from them as you do.

Well, I won't tell you. Greg Monson was a personal friend of mine.

Another good friend of mine. Another good friend of mine.

These are friends of mine. I political stem. I'm not trying. It's not what I'm trying to do is from what I under trying to just destroy any relationship. At the same time, you have to deal with issues, of course, here.

Now, etymology of by the Apostle Paul to do with and the other is the family. Placing of a son. In fact, I think I've not received whereby we even we are so waiting for the one in Galatians under the law that Jesus Christ find leave place and condition of not naturally belong.

John Murray defines that this is an act of trans translated children, which actually means son, which means child. Are we using the right word?

In fact, that's where we're going to pick up where you left off about the translation of children to sons. Or should I say the in your opinion, the most frequently made error in that text is the translation of children.

We'll pick up where you left off because we have to go to our first break. If anybody wants to join us, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com chrisarnson at gmail .com. Give us your first name, at least your city and state of residence and your country of.

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Adoption as a Personal and Corporate Blessing

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This is Chris Einzen. If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the fascinating discussion of adoption, the doctrine of adoption, is my friend Dr. Ron McKinney, pastor of the Kinsey Drive Baptist Church in Dalton, Georgia.

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Please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter. I had to cut you off because we were going through a station break, and you were talking about how on occasion there are things that you believe English translators have made errors on, and you were talking about one particular verse where the word for sons has been, in your opinion, incorrectly translated children.

Yes.

Pick it up where you left off.

We need to understand that God treats us, God treated us as men, as the idea of anything as far as the Jews were concerned, and among the Romans, the spy and the child from his parent would be given to the magistrate, and the present father said to the child, are you willing to be my son?

I'm willing to be my son according to the money, according to the new father, assuming his name, being subject to his authority, and was made a legal heir. When we talk about talking about what God comes as sons, not as a son, that's very important.

Now, sonship of the designation, even the father of our Lord Jesus, he never associates between and then secondly there is the, you know, Mars Hill, in him we live in the sense that God has created us.

If we are the productivity, and then call that to a remote connection to the father, and then the third believer, but his whole meaning of adoption, this adoption is dependent upon the whole.

Okay, and can you, first before we do that, I have a listener question. We have Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, and the question is, isn't the doctrine of adoption one of those even more clear doctrines, perhaps, that speaks of God adopting individuals rather than a large group, if not everyone, because it would make absolutely no sense if he were adopting everyone, and yet many, if not most, were still damned.

How could they possibly be his adopted children, if indeed they would spend an eternity in hell?

Well, you know, that kind of thing, sons, and you know, we're all brothers, that's contrary to all of scripture, that we, Christ, and then we are called by the Holy Spirit, we become a relationship that now we have.

Everybody has that, and he's fond. It's an indigenous thing, because I think the realization of it is something. The point is, Dan, that now our family of God, and Christ being my brother, and my Lord and Master, is my Savior.

And I wanted to say something of clarification also, I don't know if Susan, I don't know if our listener, Susan Margaret, intended this in her question, so I don't want to jump to a conclusion, but there is a misconception that we who are believers in the doctrines of Sovereign Grace believe that the elect are a tiny number of people.

We believe that it is an enormous number of people, I mean, more than the grains of sand and stars in the heaven.

Yeah, I mean, the number is certainly, in fact, we're taught that they're from every nation, kindred, tribe, and tongue, and they're going to be, so God numbered them by choosing His names. He didn't have to choose anybody.

In fact, if God is trying to go and write nobody, salvation is not anything with Him, and He perfectly redeems us on the cross. When He went to the cross, He died for His people. That's what the angel said at random.

Their names, their names, who's the foundation of the world. You see, you know, when we talk about God's salvation, it's something in the triune God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

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Adoption, Regeneration, and the Children of God

Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen. And if you just tuned us in, our guest today is Dr. Ron McKinney. And he is on our program for the full two hours today. Before we return to our discussion, the practical, biblical, and corrective importance of the doctrine of adoption, I have some important announcements to make.

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