Big Eva Strikes Back!, March for Life, & Russell Moore's "Pro Life" Definition

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Welcome to the Conversations That Matter podcast. My name is John Harris. The theme for today's episode is fighting back and full speed ahead.

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Evangelical elites, especially Southern Baptists in the last few weeks, have employed a new range of tactics in responding to so -called discernment blogs, even people like myself who make videos for my wife's laundry room, responding in part to social justice infiltration and evangelicalism.

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And the irony of this whole thing is they become more aggressive, but yet they are the ones in every case who hold more privilege as far as denominational positions, seminary professorships, all the bells and whistles that come with being part of these institutions.

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They get the paycheck that comes along with it, and yet they're very adamant right now about stomping out any kind of resistance against the social justice movement that they are involved in and employing and introducing to these institutions.

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So I think we can have a good laugh about that in a way, but it's also sad because it's so contradictory.

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And I think it's important for us to know how to identify and respond to the new tactics that are being used.

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And look, this is a food fight and these tactics will continue to be used and the heat will really be turned up.

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I think things are going to get ugly before the Southern Baptist convention this year. So let's just be mindful and let's do it with a cheerful disposition.

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We know Christ is our Lord, and I need to remind myself of this because it can get discouraging out there sometimes, but Jesus is

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King and we are fighting for timeless values, the sufficiency of scripture, the DNA of repentance, all the doctrines that the social justice religion, because that's what it is, challenge.

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We are standing in opposition to that movement in favor of something. We are positive. We are in favor of biblical

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Christianity and as it's been orthodox for the past 2000 years.

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So that's what we want to do. And so I'm looking forward to showing you some of these examples that I'm speaking about and getting into the nitty gritty.

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Also, I'm going to be examining Russell Moore's latest article, and I actually made up an acronym for how to man of straw, obvious target, or be evil, rule to apply, errors in interpretation.

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There's your sneak peek at what we're going to be talking about later. And this is all obviously an acronym

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I made up off of the word more. So it's Russell Moore's last name.

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Before I get into all of that, though, I want to talk about something that is perhaps more important.

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Today marks, I believe it's the 47th anniversary of Roe v. Wade. Roe v.

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Wade took place in 1973, and since then, over 60 million babies have been murdered legally in the

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United States. And some of you have a heavy heart like I do. You could cry just hearing that.

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You've done everything you know to do. You've written letters. You've gone to your local town and tried to make it a sanctuary city for the unborn.

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You don't know what to do because you've done it all, and it's still legal. And we don't have an excuse at this point.

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Not only for Christians do we have biblical revelation that has told us since it's been written that those in the womb are, in fact, human beings.

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I think of David saying, Lord, you knew me when you knit me together in my mother's womb. I think of John the

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Baptist jumping for joy when he's in close proximity to Jesus in his mother's womb. But we have scientific evidence now.

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We know what a zygote is. We have a technology to show women through ultrasound that, hey, this is a human that you have in you.

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And we're still here. I think some progress is being made. I don't know whether it's all for the right reasons.

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But the point is that this issue is still a hot -button issue.

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And one of the signs of progress, actually, is the fact that the President of the United States is attending the

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March for Life today. And that's never happened before. And whatever you think about Donald Trump, the office of the

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President is sanctifying this event in a way and saying, yeah, we're legitimizing it. Because one of the things

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I think that took place in years previous, why people like George Bush didn't go to the pro -life rallies, is it's always been popular to kind of wink at the pro -life movement and say,

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I'm pro -life, endorse me, and receive that endorsement. But to actually show up when it's called for, that'll get you kind of in trouble.

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So if you can have the pro -life people on your side without being too pro -life, in other words, if you don't go and join with pictures taking, the optics of it, pictures of you with all these hayseed rednecks who are probably bigots and they have this novel idea that children should be able to live.

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If you're in one of those positions, it's viewed as compromising. You're giving up your modicum of moderation.

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And the moderates just don't like that. And Donald Trump is someone that I did not vote for in 2016.

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I was not at swing state. Maybe that would have changed things. I don't know. But I took what I thought was a principled stand, and I'm going to be talking about what

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I'm going to do for 2020 because I think it will be different. But at the time, that's what I thought. And one of the issues was the pro -life issue.

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I didn't think Donald Trump was truly going to be pro -life. I saw those videos of him back, what, 15 years ago, saying he had

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New York values, he's pro -choice. And then all of a sudden he has this conversion to pro -life before running for the Republican Party.

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I just I didn't believe it. But to his credit, he's the first one to do this.

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And I think we need to give him credit for that. Whatever his motives are, he represents the office of the presidency and he's he's doing what all the presidents should should be doing, really.

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So so I just want to encourage you with that. You probably are already aware, but that's my take on it.

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And we need to keep fighting this on a local level. I think the

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I've been waiting for men who don't seem to have spines, but men on a local level, on the state level specifically to stand up and say we are not going to have abortion.

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And that's starting to happen. It's starting, but it's been almost 50 years and we haven't had states willing to nullify on the issue of abortion and then say, make my day.

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We have states that do it on the issue of marijuana. We have cities that do it on the issue of illegal immigration.

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But leftists have always been more well in the last hundred years, really.

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They seem to have been more bold in what they're trying to do in societal revolution.

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And they tend to hang together. We tend to be more isolated as conservatives. And and that's why the March for Life is important.

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It's important to get encouragement from people, even like myself, who agree with you.

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You're not crazy. This is morally wrong. And when God judges this country, if and when he will, but if we live to see it, to see a real judgment like an

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Old Testament type judgment, I'm sure over 60 million children will be at the top of that list.

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And so anyway, I wanted to highlight that and I'm going to circle back around to the pro -life issue because I'm going to examine

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Russell Moore's article on that later. But let's let's talk about the main theme for today's episode.

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And this is kind of my my niche right now, I guess, for lack of a better term. By the way, before I get into my niche,

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I actually need to announce this. I'm thinking of changing a few things up. I'm a very, very busy guy right now, especially right now.

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I just I'm not going to bore you with the list of all the things I have going on. But but this this is kind of a side project.

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But I've wanted to become more disciplined and streamlined in what I put out and strategic and in giving you positive things that you can share.

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Shorter, positive videos advocating Christian positions on. So maybe, for example, like let's do one on gun control.

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Let's do one on was Jesus a socialist? I've been wanting to put out some short kind of hard hitting episodes.

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And I what I'm going to try to do is put out something a little short, something a little like something you could share with maybe those who are more moderate or on the fence.

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And you can say, hey, check this out. Check out this guy's arguments. And then I want to do kind of make me a longer form discussion, which is what

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I'm doing today. And they're both going to be helpful for you. But it's just it's an idea that I have. And I do have some hard hitting content coming soon, not just the

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SBC. I'm going to do something on the PCA. I'm going to there's a lot, guys. There's a lot. But just pray for me.

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Pray for those who are on local levels trying to fight for the pro -life movement. Pray for those in the

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Southern Baptist Convention and the PCA and those who are hanging tough. I get their email sometimes privately saying, hey, keep going.

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We're doing what we can behind the scenes. And, you know, God is still at work. There are those who have not bowed the knee to bail.

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And so with that being said, let's get to the main topic, which I know you're waiting for.

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So Baptist Press puts out this article two weeks ago. I think this is the beginning of the change of tone that we see coming from the elites who want to stamp out any kind of questioning.

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The article says, Explainer, ERLC, George Soros and Evangelical Immigration Table. And the point of the article is that essentially

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George Soros is not funding the Evangelical Immigration Table because Snopes said so. Now, Snopes, they're the ones that fact check

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Babylon B, far left. We usually don't take them seriously. And, you know, many media outlets since even 2013 have reported on this and confirmed that, yes,

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George Soros does fund the Evangelical Immigration Table in part. And I'll give you an example. The Blaze right here,

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National Review, both obviously more on the right. But there's probably like six or seven outlets that have confirmed this.

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And here's the kicker, though. Look at the Blaze article. The subtitle says, If God can use the jawbone of an ass to achieve his purpose, he can use

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George Soros, too. Who said that? It was Richard Land. It was the head of the

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Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission for the Southern Baptist Convention, the URLC, the one that Russell Moore now heads up.

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So you have the previous URLC leader saying that, yes,

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George Soros funds this in part. And there was another quote I found. It was a guy, it was an URLC guy today who's saying, no, he doesn't fund it.

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And someone screenshot a couple of years ago him admitting that Soros funded it. So it's like you can laugh, but it's really sad, honestly.

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So here's the point that I'm trying to make. I'm trying to weave a narrative. I'm showing you the big picture here. And my question isn't so much about Soros.

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I mean, the reason we are concerned about Soros is because we know he's up to no good. He's for open societies. He wants to import

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Democrat voters, essentially, people that are more accustomed to socialism and will vote that way. And he's using evangelical immigration table to even just move the needle a little bit.

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If you can just move it a little bit, then you can, you know, the country's at a tipping point and you can change the very character of the country.

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And this has been proven that illegal immigration has influenced elections. And so all that to say this, you know,

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I did an episode a month ago where I talk about the evangelical immigration table and what their mission.

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I mean, they do things like they'll say, well, the image of God means you should never deport anyone. Really? The image of God says that?

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No, you're taking a concept that's biblical and then you're smuggling in your ethics underneath that concept and claiming that that's the biblical concept.

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That's not how you approach the Bible. But that's the ERLC for you. And that is the evangelical immigration table for you.

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So all that to say, that's the concern. But the greater narrative that I'm trying to weave here is that they didn't have to respond to any of this.

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They didn't have to write this article, but they did. And it's been years that so -called discernment blogs and I don't endorse every discernment blog, but but they broad brush and they'll say that it's just all these people are the same.

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They're all, you know, just discernment blogs, crazy people, whatever. They're all saying they're all lying.

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They're all slandering. And that's just not true, guys. It's just not true.

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And they could have said this much earlier. Why are they saying it now? Maybe it's because people like Todd Starnes are saying,

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I don't want to fund George Soros stuff. Don't give to the ERLC. Maybe it's because I saw it this morning as Alex McFarland, pastors of Southern Baptist Church.

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He says, yeah, you know, I don't think my church is going to be, we don't give to ERLC and you shouldn't either.

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You know, don't give to the co -operative program if you're an SBC church. Guys, mark my words. I don't think the books will ever be open to us, but they are losing money because of this.

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And now maybe they're getting it from other places, but it's got to be hurting them or else.

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I mean, they hate acknowledging these concerns that so -called discernment blogs have, but they're now starting to answer them and they're doing so by making pointing fingers and making accusations.

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And this is just kind of the beginning. This is also what happened this week. Check this out. Capstone Report.

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Actually, this was last. This was almost two weeks ago now. Capstone Report puts out, did Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary president lobby state to accept more refugees?

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And he had a lead, I guess, in the Republican Party in a state of Missouri who said, yeah, that's what happened.

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Jason Allen, the president, came of that seminary and he lobbied the governor. And so Capstone Report puts this out there.

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Well, Capstone Report made a mistake, according to them. They put out a retraction and they apologized and said, you know what, we didn't have another source to back this up.

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And we're sorry. It was wrong. It was bad journalism. And I think they still don't really know.

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I mean, it's kind of a he said, she said situation, what actually took place. But, you know, if you believe what

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Jason Allen says, and I think there was another third party there who said, hey, this didn't happen the way

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Capstone Report is reporting it. I don't know if Jason Allen went at another time, where this lead came from.

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I'm not aware of any of that. But the point is that Capstone Report could not substantiate the claim and they retracted.

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They apologized. And, you know, good on them for that. You know, we can wish that they never posted that in the first place, but that they did the right thing at the end of the day.

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They didn't double down like some ministries are likely to do, you know, double down and try to. They didn't do that.

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There was a humble approach. Well, after after they retracted at Capstone Report, this is

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January 13th. Jason Allen, denominational discourse in the future of the SBC. I'm not going to breathe the whole thing.

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I'm not going to tell you exactly what's in this. You can read it yourself. But yeah, it's pretty hard, pretty hard on Capstone Report.

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And and it's broad enough that he's talking about more than just Capstone Report. If you read it,

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Al Mohler comes out, reposts an article from NBC Pathway dot com, says this is the kind of slander that the

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Southern Baptist Convention cannot endure. This is after after the retraction, mind you.

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So very fascinating to me because it kills these guys. I know it kills these guys to have to come out and acknowledge their so -called enemies in their minds, at least.

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And because that's the sort of an elitist mentality is like these guys are so far beneath us. And Jason Allen talks about this in his article.

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We don't want to legitimize them by mentioning their name, which is why he doesn't mention the name Capstone Report. But it's hurting them.

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So they have to respond somehow. And it's just it's very hard. It's a tussle for them to figure out what to do. They'd rather ignore.

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But they're getting to the point they can't. And so it's going to get a little more vicious, I think, moving forward.

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And just as if you're keeping score, by the way, and I'm going to do an episode on Al Mohler at some point soon. But but if you notice,

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Al Mohler is almost like a knee -jerk reaction when any of the institutions are attacked. He'll circle the wagons around Matt Hall, around Adam Greenway, around Jason Allen, around Danny Akin, but his friends,

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John MacArthur, Tom Askell, James White, when they're attacked, nothing, silence.

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That's interesting. And look, whatever you think about Al Mohler, you need to come up with a paradigm that makes sense of that.

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So moving on, though, let's let's keep talking about what's going on in the

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SBC. Here's me. I talked about this last week, so I'm not going to spend a lot of time, but I didn't show you these tweets.

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So I put out this montage on what's happening at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.

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Well, Danny Akin comes out right afterward, same day that Jason Allen posted his article. I so appreciate my brother and friend,

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Walter Strickland. He's a wonderful gift to SCBTS and our convention of churches. Read this article and be blessed. Malcolm Yarnell from Midwestern, or no, he's from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, where Robert Oscar Lopez got fired from.

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He says, We need each other. This is the best theology video I have seen in a good while. Walter Strickland of Southeastern demonstrates why

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Christians must find their unity in Christ, which means a multi -ethnic unity. And that was also on January 13th. And the point is that they're circling the wagons.

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They're really trying hard to defend. And Walter Strickland was not the only one in that montage, but he has been the flash point for liberation theology being taught in the

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SBC. So they want to defend him. And what's more interesting is the character assassination.

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I talked about that last time. People trying to switch the conversation to, well, what about John?

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What are John's motives? He's a white supremacist, which is absolutely ridiculous. And I proved that in the last video

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I did or two videos ago last week. But that's pretty vicious, guys. And there are some some bigger evangelicals getting into that mix a bit.

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I got a private email, and I'm not going to say who it is or exactly.

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I'm not going to quote from it at this point or give you the exact nature of it. But someone who was in that montage is very upset at me and thinks

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I'm being very deceitful. And we've gone back and forth. And, you know, it's interesting. It was kind of like in the first email

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I was like I was basically given till Friday. It almost sounded like it was an insinuation that like, you know, until Friday, which is today, like you have to retract and apologize.

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And all I did was play a clip from from them in this montage. I didn't really even comment on it. And what's interesting,

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I'm not going to tell you all the there's some really ridiculous things in the email, in my opinion.

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But what what the main point is, there was an elitist attitude coming from the gentleman who sent it to me.

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He's a doctor. I clearly didn't do my homework. I don't know what I'm talking about. And he this man, though, so far has refused to just answer very basic questions about the quotations that were included in that montage.

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And this is, I think, how we need to proceed. We need to be very respectful. And I want to be I don't know the guy very well.

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I just know what he said at Southeastern. And it wasn't good. I won't say what it is because then you'll identify who it is at this point.

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And I'm going to kind of keep that under wraps. But for now, but, you know, if you just stick to the facts, if you just stick to this is what you said, do you still believe that?

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Do you endorse what you said? What kind of teaching have you put out there that clarifies what you say?

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If you just stick to the facts and you're respectful about it, these these guys get angry, man.

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And it because it frustrates them. It calls them out and it shows the utter futility of their efforts to object to the material that's been exposed.

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So that's two pointers I just want to give you is, you know, keep a humble attitude and and just stick to the facts when you can.

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But anyway, so that was my little scuffle. And then you have this guy named Josh Sommer, January 21st.

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Now, this article was picked up by Sovereign Nations and I reposted it as well.

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Critical Theory Right Under Al Mohler's Nose at SBTS by Josh Sommer. You can go read that article if you want.

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I will put it in the info section if I remember to do that for this video. Well, it was an interview that Herschel York, who teaches at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, where Al Mohler is president, had put out there.

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And York sits down with Trillia Newbell. I think I'm pronouncing her name correctly.

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And it's this interview that's filmed. And he asked her, she says, tell me, how can churches have been historically and traditionally white

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Anglo be open to reaching different ethnicities? And I'm giving us some advice. Give us some advice.

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And Newbell responds. Yeah, well, do we have a few days to have this podcast? I think the first thing is repent if you are struggling to reach your neighbor.

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Why is it? What is it that's holding you back? Which a lot of people just don't realize that they're struggling.

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Maybe they're struggling with the sin of partiality. And there's more in this.

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But the implication is that if you don't have a diverse congregation, you just need to repent. And so Josh Sommer does,

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I think, a very balanced analysis of this and shows how the whole decentering of whiteness concept and critical theory plays into this.

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And so he actually tags the professor, Herschel York. Hey, this is what I wrote. You care to respond, basically.

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And this is what Herschel York writes. And I'm not going to read the whole thing, but he says, you know, he starts off,

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Josh, I do not know you. I am not going to get into a back and forth by tagging me. You obviously want to see what you think.

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So I'll respond. And he goes on. It's a wall of words. And he's talking about basically how great the congregation is that he's part of in Kentucky.

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You know, we are in the top two percent in giving to missions. We're just the greatest place ever.

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His church is so great. And and this has been recklessly misinterpreted. He doesn't specifically show why it's been interpreted.

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Again, you need to listen to the hundreds of hours of my sermons and teachings that can easily be found on the

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Internet to understand this, this half an hour video and, you know, just rip some apart.

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Personally, I hope you remain teachable, whether you accept my words or not. I mean, look, this this is the kind of attitude that I got from the professor who contacted me regarding the month.

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It was the same thing. It's like you need to read all my books. It's like, I don't have time to do that. Just tell me what you meant by these words. And that's what they don't want to do.

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And and then Josh wanted to go back and forth more. He just wanted to say, like, hey, could we maybe do like a video chat or something and talk about this?

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And it's like, no, I don't have time to do that. So this is kind of the the lashing out that we're starting to see in the

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Southern Baptist Convention. They're not ignoring it anymore, which they were for a long time. And I think part of it is this, guys.

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This is key, the traffic going to so -called discernment blogs versus the traffic going to establishment websites in the convention.

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And a gentleman named Peter Lumpkins put this together, which I'm thankful for the information. For some reason,

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I was thinking Peter Lumpkins. I thought I feel like I've heard that name on like a James White dividing line, like Radio Free Geneva show or something.

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I tend to be more on the reform side of that question. If my memory serves me, I think Peter Lumpkins is on more of an

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Armenian side. But here's the thing. We're both, it looks like at least, concerned about the social justice infiltration.

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And he put out a great article with information on it. And here's the information, guys.

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Just check out these numbers. Almolar .com, this traffic ranking in the USA is around 83 ,000.

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Russell Moore, 183 ,000. J .D. Greer is not even listed.

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That's not applicable, I guess. Baptist Press, 39 ,000. SBC Voices, 88.

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Baptist News Global, 32. All right. Anyway, there's just a sample for you. Pope and Penn is at 5 ,000.

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5 ,716. Capstone Report, 25 ,000. The Warburg Watch, 111 ,000.

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Reformation Charlotte, 8 ,000. Guys, like be encouraged by this.

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Look, I don't, it's not like I'm endorsing every single article on all these websites or anything. But here's what

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I'm saying, though. These are more populist kind of like, they're watchdog websites saying, we're paying attention to what's going on in Big Eva.

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And come to our website and we'll show you. And there's a lot more people going to those websites.

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That's got to bother them. It has got to bother them. And this is the encouraging part, is there's a lot of people that are just as concerned as you guys.

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All right. The folks who watch this and listen to what I have to say, you are in the majority if that, if what

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I just showed you is true. Those who are concerned about social justice infiltration, there are more of them. And so don't pay attention to the

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Twitter mob. All right. Don't don't view that as your barometer for whether people truly care about this or not.

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It can get discouraging. And I'll tell you, even this week, I was struggling a little with some discouragement. I'm like, man, where are the men?

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Where are the people that are going to stand up? Why am I doing this? And I just started thinking like, you know, praise

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God. When I saw this, I'm like, not not only I mean, the Lord, he's enough. He should be right. But but look, there are many who are probably blue collar workers working class people and they haven't bowed the knee.

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And so anyway, there you go. There's some encouragement for you now. What I'm really waiting for them to react to is this,

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Eric Metaxas did an interview with Bobby Lopez. Bobby Lopez was the professor that got fired from Southwestern for not towing the

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ERLC's line on homosexuality being an innate orientation and conversion therapy being bad.

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Bobby Lopez said no, shared his testimony. He was converted from homosexuality to Christianity, but also to heterosexuality.

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He's got kids. He's got a wife. And so he got in trouble, got fired. Eric Metaxas is a big platform and had him on yesterday.

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So I'll try to remember to put that in the info section. Go ahead and share that, guys, that this is a big deal.

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And I'd be really curious to see what the reaction is going to be on this. But as promised, we need to talk a little bit about Russell Moore.

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And remember, remember this. I'm going to just explain this to you real quick.

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So I came up with a simple acronym for Moore. She's like, how do you how do you examine

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Russell Moore? He's uses all these weasel words. He's so vague. He can say a lot without really saying anything.

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But he means something. There's a lot of like shadowboxing, like very against ideas that hardly anyone holds.

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And so I thought, what are some good rules of thumb to keep in mind when approaching

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Russell Moore? Well, here's one. The man of straw. So the acronym is Moore. So M is the first letter.

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Man of straw, man of straw. Look for straw men in Russell Moore articles and podcasts, whatever he puts out there, because Russell Moore is really good at saying, you know, for example, if we're talking about racism, he'll say, you know, talk about someone who is the most horrible bigot ever, someone who just thinks that, like, you know, people that come from Mexico must be the scum of the earth.

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I think he even used that line in the article we're about to examine. But they're just scum.

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And, you know, he's like, that's not a Christian position. Well, think to yourself, who did you hear last who said

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Hispanics are scum? Is there anyone who said that? They literally said that. They believe that.

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They advocate that. Yeah, chances are probably not. And if you do know someone, they're probably really, really fringe.

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And Russell Moore will treat that position like it's some mainstream problem evangelicals have, like there's so many evangelicals out there that just think immigrants are scum.

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So or Hispanics are scum or pick your I think in this article, I didn't quote it, but it was like prisoners are scum, you know, someone who believes that is wrong.

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It's like, yeah, they're wrong, but that's a straw man. And why are you bringing that up?

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Why are you, you know, trying to you're getting your readers to agree with you on something that everyone agrees on just about.

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And then you're using that to make a point. So so look for the man of straw.

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The second part here is obvious target. So who's

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Russell Moore obviously talking about when he's vague in this particular situation,

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I I'm pretty sure he's talking about Donald Trump, but he doesn't want to say Donald Trump.

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So he gives describers. He throws things out there to put questions in your mind about someone who

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I don't know would use political power to use the pro -life movement for political power reasons.

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Well, who might that be? Well, he's doing this the day before Donald Trump is the first president to speak at the pro -life march.

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We know who he's talking about. OK, so think through who who must he be talking about?

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Because he used vague, vague descriptions and then he hides behind it. All right, so the next letter is, oh, so more so we got man of straw, obvious target or be evil or be evil.

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So this is the false dichotomy. So it's like either agree with me or be evil. So if you don't agree with my plan on how to tackle an issue or my concerns about a certain issue, then you're like that guy who calls prisoners scum.

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So just be with him. So look out for false dichotomies. So it's either individualism or it's communitarianism.

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It's one or the other. I'm going to do a video at some point where I point out that that's a false dichotomy.

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There's actually a tradition which takes into account individual rights that are God given that parallel responsibilities

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God has given and the attachments that organically just take place in community.

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It's not like, well, you know, you're either an Ayn Rand kind of libertarian or you're a socialist.

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Like there's it's not just like those are the only two options. And I'm giving that as one example that gets thrown out there all the time as you're an individualist or you're communitarian.

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No, there's actually that's those aren't the only two positions. And there's even differences within these supposed positions.

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And Russell Moore is a master at doing this. He will throw out false dichotomies. And in this one, he does it with you're either pro justice or you're pro family.

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And we need to somehow wed these two together. And you can't find yourself on really one of the other side or else you're compromising something.

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So so if you're on the pro family side and you don't care. About like Black Lives Matter, then, well, you're not pro justice.

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So he's describing a label to you. And so this is what's called a false dichotomy.

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All right. What's the next one? We got more. We got man of straw, obvious target or be evil. And then we have rule to apply.

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R is rule to apply. What's the rule that Russell Moore wants you to apply to situations now?

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So, for example, in the article, the podcast, it's a transcript of became an article, the article

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I'm about to go over with you, what you need to be asking yourself is what what does he how does he want you to change after you read that article?

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What's the interpretive framework he'd like you to apply to situations? What's the rule? And and there might be a few in this particular one.

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But one of them, I think, is he wants you to go through life now and scrutinize those the motivations of people who are pro life.

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Are they doing it for power or are they doing it because they're truly pro life? That's just that's one of the things now that you're the thought you're going to have in your head that maybe wasn't there before.

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And it can look that that kind of thing can cause conflict within a pro life movement.

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And I'm not saying there's not a legitimate, perhaps, concern there. But but but you got to be asking yourself, what's the motivation?

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What's the rule that he wants you to apply? What's the takeaway? And then fifth, we got man of straw, obvious target or be evil rule to apply.

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And then E for more errors in interpretation, errors in interpretation. Look for it every single time

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Russell Moore opens his mouth. Look for when he says something like the Imago Dei or something like treating your neighbor like you would want to be treated or he throws out the

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Good Samaritan and or some biblical passage principle, something he throws out there and he does not apply it or interpret it correctly.

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And you got to be paying attention to this because he's really sneaky with how he does it. I pointed out earlier with the evangelical immigration table, they'll throw out like, you know, it's wrong to deport because image of God.

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Well, that's image of God doesn't say it's wrong to deport. Russell Moore does that kind of thing all the time. So back to the drawing board here, man of straw, obvious target or be evil rule to apply errors of interpretation.

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And I don't expect everyone, including myself, to remember all that. But I thought it was fun and helpful. And maybe when you're watching

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Russell Moore stuff in the future, it will come to you and you'll remember that. So how do we have discernment and apply these rules?

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Let's go over this article and I'm just going to read you some of the quotes. So Russell Moore says, one thing

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I've noticed happening at the pro -life rally in D .C. is that you'll have, you know, two, for lack of a better word, tribes of evangelicals that sometimes will be there.

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And he says, for lack of a better word, there's pro -family people and there's pro -justice people. So Russell Moore is giving you a dichotomy off off the top.

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And then he says, here's what the pro -life people do. They come to you and they come to him and they say, you know, my church,

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I can talk about abortion because people sort of politically and culturally are opposed to abortion. I can't talk about race without causing an uproar and I can't talk about sexual abuse of women without causing an uproar.

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And he says, you know, the pro -justice people, they come to me, they say, you know, my church or my setting, it's very easy for me to talk about racism and human trafficking and caring for the poor.

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But I can't talk about the unborn because, well, there'll be a backlash happening for people in the congregation about the unborn.

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Now, what's going on here? I said before, I think there's a false dichotomy. Actually, what I think's happening is Russell Moore setting up a false dichotomy, but he wants you to recognize that it's a false dichotomy and he wants you to buy into really this new synthesis.

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He wants you to think pro -family is good, pro -justice is good, wed them together, create a synthesis, be both.

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And really what this is, is a straw man argument, the wedding of these two things.

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And this debate's been going on for a long time, to be honest with you. I mean, people who are my age who think that, oh, the wisdom of Russell Moore, goodness gracious, we've been so long, we've been under the shackles of fundamentalism.

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And finally, we know how to engage culture. They just don't realize that this debate was happening through the 70s and 80s.

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I mean, Ron Sider and Jim Wallace and John Alexander and Tony Campolo in the 90s.

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And the list goes on. There's a lot of names out there, people who are trying this very tactic.

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Why can't we be pro -life, so like anti -abortion, but at the same time be pro -women and increase women's health care and be pro -nuclear disarmament, because that's a pro -life issue.

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And they just smuggle in every kind of leftist concern and platform into this pro -life cause.

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And what they do is they take quality of life issues and they put them on the same platform, the same moral high ground as a life issue, an actual life issue.

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And there's no comparison there. I mean, the Bible is very clear about the image of God being violated. If you shed man's blood, by man, your blood shall be shed.

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Murder is wrong. Government does not bear the sword in vain. There's a clear pattern in scripture of calling this evil and murder.

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And it's an unjust killing of someone, right? Taking someone's life, direct violation. And if you want to say euthanasia issues are in there, yeah, they are, because that's murder, right?

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It's in that category. But how would you feel if someone, let's use this example. What if someone came in 1943 and someone said, well, you know, you got your pro -Nazi side and then you got your pro -Jew side.

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And, you know, the Nazis had a green movement. Hitler was into animal rights. You know, those are also life issues.

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And, you know, the Dietrich Bonhoeffers, they come to me, they tell me, you know, man, I can't talk about the whole pro -life or rather I can't talk about the pro -vegetarian and animal rights in my congregation because, you know, they're just so concerned about the

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Jews. And then, you know, a Nazi pastor come to you and say, well, you know, I can talk about what's happening with animal rights, but I can't talk about what's happening with the

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Holocaust. You would laugh that out of the room, that logic. You'd say that's ridiculous. There's a Holocaust going on. Forget about your plants and go save some people.

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And I just want to kind of morally shock you out of, I think, the spell Russell Moore is trying to put on you.

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Remember, there's over 60 million dead people legally killed. And, you know, we're going to put, you know, all these other issues on the same level as that is quality of life issues.

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Now, the other thing going on here, and you need to recognize it, is that there's a reason there's supposedly two groups and they're more or less separate.

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And it's because there's two basic understandings or worldviews, if you want to use that word, or there's two basic philosophies that people are coming at this with.

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Now, overwhelmingly, most of the people are pro -family. They're not this pro -justice side Russell Moore's talking about. And there's some people like that, but a lot of pro -family people at the

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March for Life. And the reason that that issue, I think, has resonated in that community, in a conservative community that believes in kind of a limited government, which they find their responsibilities to government outlined in scripture, and they want those limitations.

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They believe in rights being wedded to responsibilities God has given. I mean, there really is a tradition that goes back to a biblical understanding of government that these guys have.

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And life is just the premier thing that government should defend. And to have government not defending it, to actually forcing local municipalities and states to not do their jobs from a national government in order to allow murder to happen, that's just that's unconscionable.

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And so for someone who's trying to operate from a biblical framework to be against abortion and to also be against, let's say, welfare, the kind of welfare that is from the top down, federal, that, let's say, does not take into account whether someone's working or not.

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It actually rewards it, incentivizes people not to work. I mean, that's anti -biblical as well.

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And I could even make an argument that that's denying someone their dignity. There's dignity in work. And so anyway,

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I don't want to get on every single issue here, but I just want to make the point that there's actually a consistency in the pro -family side.

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And to say that that kind of person, well, you're just not concerned about the poor caring for the poor. It's like that person, they may be the biggest charitable givers ever.

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So watch out for those weasel words when someone says, well, caring for the poor is...

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no. One side, the pro -supposedly justice side, does not have a monopoly on caring for the poor.

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The pro -family side, actually, in general, from what I've observed, they have another way to care for the poor.

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It's called being in localized communities, especially families. And it's called working and supporting a safety net for those who, you know, for special situations.

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But it's on a local level. It's more it's more vetted. It's more those safety nets should have some kind of a work attached to them or an understanding that this person is looking for employment.

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So their work is to look for employment. So anyways, that is actually caring for the poor.

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Right. So also war is being sneaky here, I think. And you hear this all the time about like Republicans.

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They just don't care about minorities. They just don't care about the poor. And really what it is is they don't agree with the problems that are identified by the left and the supposed solutions to those problems, because they are smart enough to see some cures are worse than diseases.

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And you create generational welfare when you when the government becomes the daddy. Right. So there's there's all sorts of complexities that Russell Moore just brushing over and saying, yeah, you know, those pro -justice people who care about the poor where what's the pro -family people don't.

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So I want to point that out. That's very sneaky. And if we're if we're operating by the acronym, you'd be looking at.

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Man of straw and or be evil, man of straw and or be evil, because he sets up a straw man that we're supposed to be against both these sides, they're both, you know, these these straw men and then we're going to create a synthesis.

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And if you don't go along with that, well, you're just evil, man. You just don't care. You don't care about poor people,

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I guess. All right. So then he says in the pro -life movement, we're constantly asking ourselves, who are the people that we don't want to think about?

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Hmm. In the same way, when an abortion culture says, let's just not think about unborn children, let's call them clinical words and try to find some ways to erase them from our minds.

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Where is that tendency showing up in us? This is where Russell Moore thinks he's being prophetic, you know, to speak truth to the church, and he's using us to kind of like soften the blow.

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So I'm involved in this, too, like us, us evangelicals. Really, it's us on the pro -family side.

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You know, where's that tendency in us? We remember the babies, but do we forget about A, B or C?

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So let's keep reading here. Let's see what he means by what kinds of groups he may be thinking about.

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He says, you believe that the unborn child bears the image of God, and rightly so. And you want to protect the life of that unborn child, and rightly so.

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Therefore, care about people in your neighborhoods who are racially different than you. And that maybe the people around you would say, they don't matter.

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Don't care about them. Now, which one are we looking for here? What's he talking about? Well, this is kind of like a straw man again.

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Who are those people who say to you, they don't matter? Those racially different people, man.

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You know, we don't care about them. They don't matter at all. Like, who are those? I mean, is his name

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Bob? Does he live out in Oklahoma? Like, where is this person? And this is,

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I think, what confuses a lot of people when they read this. They're like, who's he shadowboxing? Well, he's trying to get you to agree on something you already, with him, on something you already know innately.

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That kind of attitude is wrong. Right. But he wants you to stand against it. But is it really that,

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I mean, we're talking about over 60 million babies. And then he's saying, yeah, there's these people going around saying, you know, racially different people.

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They just don't matter, don't care about them. Who is he talking about? And here's where you also need to realize the rule, the obvious target.

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Who is it? Is it Republicans? Is it Donald Trump? Is it, you know, he's angry about something.

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There's some person that fits this description who he thinks is an actual major problem in your life.

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You know, there's enough of them around there that you hear this. It's not

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Bob out in Oklahoma. It's a force of some kind. And I'd like to suggest to you, it's got to be people who don't go along with maybe quotas and affirmative action.

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And maybe they think those monuments should stay up and, you know, pick your issue. But that's who he's talking about.

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All right. So there's a reason. And how do I know that, by the way? I should probably reiterate this. How do I know that? I know that because he's treating them like they're a big force that somehow is influencing things on the pro -family side.

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And yet, you and I probably can't hardly think of anyone who fits this bill who would say something like that, who has influence.

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That's why I know that. All right. There's a reason why most evangelical Protestants were nowhere to be found at Roe v.

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Wade, with some notable exceptions. And why? There was often on the other side, the pro -abortion side of the equation.

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Well, why? Why, he asks. Is it because you had people talk about the image of God, they would talk about family stability and sexual morality and all those sorts of things, but they would not, they were not equipped to see how that applies to the unborn child.

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They averted their eyes from that. And here's the key quote. In order for evangelicals to be ready to speak a prophetic word against Roe v.

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Wade, they had to have a theology of human life. And they didn't, for the most part. Now, I think he might be on to something partially here.

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Yeah, you know, it took some of these even religious right leaders, it took them a little while to start responding.

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But there's actually, I think, another reason for it that he's ignoring. And that is, there's an anti -revolutionary tendency evangelicals had, especially in the sixties and into the seventies.

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And part of it, I think, comes from just a biblical teaching. Like Paul wasn't a revolutionary. Jesus wasn't a revolutionary.

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Like they didn't overturn the social structures of their day, the oppressive systems of their day. They actually wanted you to be salt and light in those systems.

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Now, it doesn't mean that they didn't stand for the truth or that they didn't have a public theology.

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I think they did. But it was more the idea of let's immediately take our signs and go protest something.

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That's just not how they are. And I think that was an impulse in evangelicalism, right or wrong. I think it was. And I think with Roe v.

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Wade being passed, it took some time for people to realize, for it to work its way into conservative communities, for them to start really realizing, wait a minute, this is affecting someone

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I know. Someone I know just had an abortion. That takes a few years. And for them to now see it in their local life,

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I think the same thing with the school prayer issue. And there was a lawsuit,

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I think it was in Florida, where there was a Christian school that was also, it was a big flashpoint in the 70s, was being sued because they were supposedly violating civil rights.

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And it wasn't based on a racial issue. It was a religious test and so forth. So all that to say, all these issues are kind of hitting evangelicals, working class evangelicals at the same time.

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And they're realizing they're a community. The people they know around them. This isn't an abstract thing. This is my real everyday life.

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It's hitting them. And that's when they're saying, hey, national government, get out of my community.

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Stop imposing these things. We don't want to see you around here. We're fine where we're at. Leave us alone. And so it was actually not this kind of, it wasn't as much of a, let's go and change

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Washington because we're revolutionaries and we're just going to overturn things. It was more like, hey, revolutionaries have changed things and we're going to put a stop gap measure in.

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We're going to stop them from doing what they're trying to do. That's why it was a conservative move and a populist move.

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All right. All that to say, and I know I waxed long about that. Russell Moore, though, I don't think sees that as much because he is a modern state, kind of propositional nation, top down, abstract principles kind of guy.

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He's not a populist. He's an elitist. And that's why I think he looks at these kinds of issues and he says things like this that, well, they just didn't know.

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There was some information missing from them that they didn't speak out right away. Almost like you have to have this impulse right away to lash out or else it doesn't, like if a rule is violated, you must immediately stand up against it.

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And people aren't, working class people especially just weren't wired that way. And so anyway,

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I could say a lot more about that. Maybe I'll do a program on it one day, but I think because Russell Moore is missing, I think a crucial angle to all this.

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All right. So something else Russell Moore says, he says, so when we're asking who is my neighbor?

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The answer is those who are bearing the image of God and are vulnerable and hurting in front of us. Those who are hurting.

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Yes. And often the people that we don't want to acknowledge at all. Are there people that you don't want to acknowledge?

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Again, this is, we're setting up, I think the straw man, and he's using the we to soften the blow, the corporate nature of this.

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Now, why don't we? Why don't we? He says, well, there are all sorts of reasons. Now listen to this guys. But one of the reasons is a tendency towards a herd mentality.

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In John 12, John tells us about people who hearing Jesus teach, they didn't commit themselves to Jesus because they were afraid that they would be put out of the synagogue, that they would lose their place in the tribe.

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And the reason for that, John says, is that because they love the glory that comes from man more than the glory that comes from God.

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There's a fallen human tendency to say, what is my herd? And what is my tribe? And so let me just adapt myself completely to that herd and to that tribe.

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Who's he talking about? This is where we have to apply the rule, obvious target. Who's he talking about?

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People who just want power. I mean, he's talking about, I think people, well, it's the herd mentality.

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It's people that they're just going to stick to the people that are like them. He's talking to the pro -family side.

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He's saying there's some bad motivations. He's putting the thought in their mind, in your mind, that maybe you have a bad motivation.

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Maybe you're not thinking about the person who's hurting because you just want to stick with your herd.

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Or maybe it's because we're not abstract thinkers who just are constantly are mulling over in our heads.

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Well, who's not being treated equally somewhere and what can I do about it? Maybe most people have families they're providing for.

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They're working every day. They're doing their best to give to their church. And if someone comes across their path who

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God has ordained through his providence for them to minister to, they'll minister to them. But they're not the kind of people that have the time to go and get behind every cause there is out there.

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And maybe the last gasping breath they have is, you know what? The pro -life thing is really important. This is murder. I'm going to try to give a little time to that.

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How dare someone take someone like that and then starts putting into their mind the idea that, well, maybe you're the problem.

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Maybe because you have a selfish herd mentality. The herd mentality.

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So it's creating a new reason for why you might be the way that you are. And of course, no one wants to have the herd mentality.

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So you can change your position because it's kind of like, or be evil. It's that other rule.

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It's like, or be evil. It's like either care about these specific examples of quality of life issues or be evil because you just care maybe about the herd mentality.

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So he says here, I won't talk about the who is my neighbor question when it applies to say race or to say the disabled or to say the elderly person with Alzheimer's who is being ignored or in some cases around the world is actually being killed.

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So he's putting some meat on the bones here. He's getting a little more specific. You know, the elderly person with Alzheimer's.

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Now that working class person who doesn't have all the time in the world, it'd be great. I know some people, some great people who go to nursing homes and they minister.

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But if you don't go and minister, is it because of the herd mentality?

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He's acting like there's this big group of people who refuse and he's part of that group. It's we, he's saying he's part of that group, right?

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So it's either the Southern Baptist or it's the pro family people or it's evangelicals. Like there's this big group out there.

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And because of the herd mentality, they're refusing to minister to the people with Alzheimer's. That's what he's saying.

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He's saying also, he says, well, that's not teaching one another and that's not actually standing up for human life.

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That's just standing up for whatever the political values are of the group that you're with at the time, if you're pro -life for the reason of the herd mentality, that is.

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He goes on, he says, and what that actually means is that what we're saying is that your visibility to us is based upon your power.

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The power that comes with whether or not the majority of the people around me right now want to talk about you.

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That's Planned Parenthood. That not only isn't an alternative to the pro -abortion mindset, that is the pro -abortion mindset.

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If an unborn children are useful to you, so you talk about abortion, then you're not really talking about abortion. You're talking about using these unborn children.

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All right, I've had it. That's it. He's saying if you are pro -life and you speak about pro -life things because you're for the purpose of power and you're using these children, you don't really believe in the pro -life cause.

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You're the same as Planned Parenthood. Guys, those two things are not morally equivalent.

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They're not morally equivalent. If you speak against the killing of the

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Jews in Europe and you're only doing it because you know people will agree with you in America, you're just as bad as the

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Nazis. Does that work? Nope. No, it doesn't work. Again, who's the obvious target here?

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I think it's Donald Trump. Who is he? Is he talking about politicians? Because he switched from the we.

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He was saying we have this problem. We have this. And he started to go to you. If you do this, if you do that, who's the you?

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He does these switcheroos where he gets you on your side because we don't want to be bigots. Oh, no, no, we don't.

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And then he switches it to if you and you start and that's when you start after you've kind of started to drink the medicine, you're now, it's going down and you start thinking, yeah, yeah, it's an us -them thing.

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It starts with us, us, us, and then he starts making the switch to them. And the you is part of that separation,

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I think. But I think the obvious target he's talking about, the day before Trump is the first president to speak at the pro -life rally, who do you think it is?

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Who do you think he's talking about using the pro -life position and speaking about it with wrong motives? All right, we're almost done here.

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When we say every human being bears the image of God, every human being bears dignity, our children are watching and saying, okay, does that appear to the stripper who's being trafficked down the street?

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If she shows up in your church, do you see her? Does that apply to the guy who has AIDS and wants to hear the gospel?

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Does that apply to the child with cognitive disabilities who's yelling in the middle of the worship service? Or are you going to say, those people are not useful to me?

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Those people disrupt what it is that we want to do. I mean, a child yelling could disrupt the service.

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I'm just saying. Therefore, we're going to ignore them and move them to the side. Who says that?

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Who says that? Who says, child's yelling in the worship service, we're going to ignore them because they're not useful to me.

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I mean, he must have been in the worst churches I've ever heard of. I've never been, I've been in, I don't know, how many churches have

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I been a member of? I've moved around a lot, so I've never heard anything remotely close to that ever. Of course, you're going to move someone to the side if they're disrupting a service, but you're going to tackle that afterward, hopefully with the elders, right?

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Like, I've seen this happen and I've seen the way it's handled, and that's usually how it's handled. But it's the shadowboxing thing.

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It's the straw man being set up once again and trying to flatline, flatlining sin.

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Abortions here, well, so is someone getting up and disrupting the service, I guess. It's kind of disgusting, to be honest with you.

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The more, you know, yeah. So, let's go over, let's see, we got two more quotes here.

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He says, to care about human life doesn't mean that we're necessarily going to agree on what healthcare system model ought to look like, but it does mean that we agree that sick people matter.

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Okay, but you're saying, so who are the people that are saying that sick people don't matter then, right? Because it doesn't everyone say sick, everyone gets sick.

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Everyone thinks sick people matter at some point. It doesn't mean that we're necessarily going to agree on what sorts of affirmative action programs we ought to have in our colleges and universities, but it has to mean that we understand and know that black lives matter, black people matter.

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Now, look guys, that sentence is really disturbing, and here's why. He says, he doesn't say whether affirmative action is legitimate or not, right?

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He's not saying like, some people don't think affirmative action is good for the communities that it's supposed to serve, because it's not.

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What he actually says instead is what sorts of affirmative action programs we ought to have.

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He's assuming from the get -go that affirmative action is necessary, that we should have that. It's just what sorts of programs.

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So he's giving himself away here on what he believes. And using the phrase black lives matter, he knows that that's a weasel word.

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He knows that there is an organization called Black Lives Matter, and that everyone associates the term with that organization, that is also pro -LGBTQ +, has also promoted violence, also has tons of other problems with it that are anti -Christian, and he knows by bringing up that word that that's what he's evoking.

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It's strategic. But we should all, yeah, of course black lives, of course black people matter, obviously.

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But to use the phrase the way he's using it, it's sneaky. It's, you know, we should all be in favor of that organization somehow, and those who use that word on a daily basis.

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Is that what he's saying? We don't know. He says, it doesn't necessarily mean that we agree on how many immigrants ought to come into the country every year, but it has to mean that the lives of immigrants and strangers and sojourners matter to God, and ought to matter to us.

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Is there anyone who says that immigrants don't matter to them? And he goes, those lives don't matter to me.

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Someone out there who's saying, black lives don't matter to me at all. No, it's usually people who say, I don't, I disagree with that organization.

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I think all lives matter, including black lives, and I don't agree with the narrowing it down to this one issue to then try to use it as a wedge by which to attack police officers and say that they don't care about it.

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Aye yai yai. All right, let's get to the end of this. So we can't be the people who say, these people are parasites.

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Oh my gosh, there it is. Who, who is he talking about?

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Who is the straw man who's out there, this evil person? He's saying it's us, it's we, we are saying, guys, the only way that this logic makes sense is you don't give into the democratic party solutions to these supposed problems.

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That's the only way that this makes any sense. Russell Moore is showing his true colors in this article.

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I hope you see it. So we can't be the people that say that these people are parasites. We have to say, these are the people creating the image of God.

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So there's your false dichotomy. There it is. Boom. That's the or be evil.

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It's either they're parasites or image of God. And you got to support, if you don't support affirmative action on some level, they're parasites.

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You're in that group. I'm sure, you know, Russell Moore may be a nice guy. I don't know. But this, his logic is just downright evil.

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If the majority decides who a person is, then that's called pro -abortion. Regardless of whether or not you call yourself pro -life or not.

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So if we're going to combat that, we can't say, well, I'm pro -life or I'm pro -justice. We have to say, we're pro -life.

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We're pro -justice. We're pro -family. There it is. The synthesis. We're pro -vulnerable. We're pro -Jesus. And our question cannot be, well, who then is my neighbor?

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The pro -life movement can only go forward by saying the life of every person is bound up in the question of who

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God is and therefore matters. So there's your takeaway. There is the rule to apply.

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And you also probably notice errors in interpretation with just, he just throws out image of God and just, you know, hey, image of God means affirmative action,

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I guess. The rule to apply is the takeaway is you got to be pro -justice and pro -family.

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So when you walk away from the article, you think, man, I'm not going to be like those people who they think other people are parasites.

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And I'm not, I don't want to be that. And he's putting the thought in your mind that you could be that person because he uses we a lot.

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And then at the end of it, you're convinced at that point, like, I just don't want to be that evil person.

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I am going to be pro -justice too. I'm going to tack that on. And that means, according to Russell Moore, that means

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I'm going to support at least some kind of affirmative action. And I'm going to care about immigrant.

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Well, what does that mean? What does that mean? It's very vague now that it opens the door. Now, if you keep listening to Russell Moore, you're going to find out, oh, evangelical immigration table,

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I'll take their platform. And so I think this is a purposeful, calculated move right before the march for life to knock those who the majority who are there who are pro -family.

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And we got to see it, guys. We got to see it because it is changing the face of evangelicalism and it will continue to do so,

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I'm afraid. So to reiterate, to go over, I'll show you one more time. Man of straw, obvious target, or be evil, rule to apply, errors in interpretation.

01:02:37

That is how you analyze a Russell Moore article. And that is the end of my slideshow. I have no more material for you today.

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I do want to play one thing, though, for you, because if you are subscribed to me on Facebook, then you would have seen this.

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But if you're on YouTube, you would not have seen this. So I'm going to play a montage that I just threw it together real quick last,

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I guess it was Monday. It was MLK Junior Day. And it's just showing some of MLK's beliefs contrasted with some of the modern social justice warriors and what they believe.

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And you might find it kind of humorous because they're not quite in lockstep. They kind of contradict each other.

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So the same people that love MLK and will excuse his heresy and his running around on his wife and his plagiarism and use him and say, you know, he's our hero.

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They actually don't believe what MLK taught in every sense from the I Have a

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Dream speech. And you're going to see that. So I'm going to end with that. Hopefully you enjoy. Stay tuned.

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Just let me know you'd like a copy of that book and I'll be sure to get it to you. God bless. How is it now that there seems to be a strange convergence between nationalism and Christianity in America?

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Will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed.

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We hold these truths to be self -evident that all men are created equal.

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For every one book that you read by an Anglo, I need you to read two books by a non -Anglo.

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I have a dream that one day on the Red Hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

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You are sons and daughters of those who murdered Martin Luther King Jr. Fill up then the measure of your slaveholding and segregationist fathers and mothers.

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You racists, you racial moderates. How are you to escape being sentenced to hell?

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If you really want to go all the way down and say, I'm only responsible for what I have done and only I have done, there is no gospel.

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We will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood.

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An African -American cannot thrive in a white evangelical space.

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It's just a matter of time before I hit the brick wall. You know, all my assimilation and everything. Somebody's still going to call me the

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N -word somewhere along the line. I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

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I think a lot of white men, especially seminarians, have to die to the idea of being the pastor of a multi -ethnic church.

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I once told a white friend of mine that that's the one thing in the United States of America that it probably was a good idea for him not to do.

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He began to weep and cry because he had never been told that there was something that he can't do in America.

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One day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

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I have a dream today. If you live in the middle of a place that is just overwhelmingly white, there's hardly any people of color where you live at all in your town.

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This sounds like a harsh thing to say, but you probably should not adopt a non -white kid.