Special: Arrested While Singing To God In Public

Non-rockabodas must stop. I don't want to rock the boat. I want to sink it.

Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite? We're being delusional.

Delusional? Delusional is okay in your world view. I'm an animal. You don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional. So you calling me delusional using your world view is perfectly okay.

It doesn't really hurt. She hung up on me.

Courage, Truth, and the Great Commission

What? What? What? Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men. The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men, lauding them for their courage. Go into all the world and make disciples.

Not go into the world and make buddies. Not to make brosives. Don't go into the world and make homies.

Disciples. I got a bit of a jiggle neck. That's a joke, pastor. When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.

Behold my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen in whom my soul delights. I have put my spirit upon him. He will bring forth justice to the nations. He will not cry aloud or lift up his voice or make it heard in the street.

A bruised reed he will not break, and a faintly burning wick he will not quench. He will faithfully bring forth justice. He will not grow faint or be discouraged till he has established justice in the earth and the coastlands wait for his law.

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It's a special. The title is Arrested While Singing to God in Public. Arrested While Singing to God in Public. We have a very close relationship with Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho. And we love Doug, Pastor Doug Wilson, Pastor Toby, the whole crew at CrossPolitik.

Those are our very close friends. We love them. We're brothers with them. And we are going to be doing a lot of fighting with them and have done fighting with them for the cause of truth. Yesterday, Christ Church was in downtown Moscow, Idaho, and they were part of a very peaceful Christian protest.

And what did it consist of? Singing songs to Jesus Christ in downtown Moscow. And our good friend, Gabe Wrench, was arrested alongside, I believe, just two other members of Christ Church. Yes, and it was a bunch of citations as well.

That's right, citations were given out as well. And so we have Christians in America today in a very conservative state. Idaho's a conservative state. It's definitely a red state. Arrested for singing songs to Jesus apparently too close to one another is what the case is, I suppose.

So we have our good friend, Gabe Wrench, on with us today. He's going to give us the details, let us know what's going on. I want to encourage everybody who's watching this right now get to know CrossPolitik and get to make sure you share this episode as far and wide as you possibly can.

We need to let the world know what's going on. Apparently, if you're not singing songs to Marx and burning down the city, rioting and looting, if you're singing them to Jesus Christ, the King of all the Earth, then you're going to get arrested for that, but not for burning down.

If they would have just sang songs to Marx and burned some stuff, they would have been just fine. Or if they would have yelled, defund the police or F the police or something like that, it would have been all good.

So Gabe Wrench, CrossPolitik, what's up brother?

Hey man, thanks for having me on. My friend Andrew Claven this morning texted me and said if you would have shot a cop, everything would have been okay.

Apparently, that is the world that we live in right now. You can host weddings, you can participate in weddings as the mayor of Moscow with no face mask and no adequate social distancing, you can protest downtown Moscow, the police, you can talk about defunding the police, you can hate on the police and not be arrested, and your day will be smooth.

But if you sing songs to Jesus like Christchurch did, you get the risk of arrest. Yep. Yep.

What's amazing about this whole order, so the mayor signed this resolution basically telling everybody that you have to wear a mask where you can't social distance. And that started back in August and then they voted on Monday, so this is kind of what kicked off the second round of Psalm Sings for Us.

The city council voted on Monday to extend that resolution through January 5th. I mean it's just unbelievable that they did that. And that's just in Moscow, right? That's not in all of Idaho? That's just in our county.

So we live in, just to give you a little geography of Idaho, we're in Latok County, we're in northern Idaho, we're one of only two counties that vote liberal here in the state. And so we have a very, the direction, the way the wind's blowing, everything's liberal, even some of the people who call themselves conservative in town are actually liberal.

And so when they extended the resolution on Monday night, I mean guys, everybody that went to that city council meeting was against the resolution and spoke out against the resolution, except for two people.

They had hours of testimony from citizens that were against extending the resolution and only two people for it. And so they aren't listening to the community. It's very tone deaf. It's unbelievable they're not representing their community.

And so when they extended that resolution, our elders on Tuesday said, well we should, I mean let's do another Psalm Sing on Wednesday. So we got it organized on Tuesday. It went out on social media. That morning I emailed Chief Fry.

So Chief Fry, he's our police chief here in the Moscow PD, Moscow Police Department. I know him. We've had him on the show. I've met with his office. I have a good relationship with him. He's a Christian man.

And I emailed him Tuesday morning when that resolution extended through January 5th, the night before, happened. And I emailed him Tuesday morning and said, don't be a Peter and run away. Be a Daniel in this.

And this is your Daniel moment. And sure enough, God gave the opportunity when we did the Psalm Sing on Wednesday at 445 and it was at our city hall. That's where the Psalm Sing was at. So we all walked over to the city hall and when we did that Psalm Sing, he was there and pooched it.

Arrest, Booking, and the Hypocrisy of Mask Enforcement

Wow. So they put out those circles right when they knew you were coming? Is that how that kind of went on? Yeah. The circles were there already before because city council meetings had been so contagious.

There's a bunch of people showing up and speaking out against the city council and all this. So they put the circles out already before that. But what they did on Wednesday, they had gotten all the cars out of the parking lot.

They'd put up signs to not let any cars come in the parking lot. They were basically trying to give us every reason to social distance is what they were trying to do. They had painted circles throughout the parking lot.

I should pull a public record request on how much it cost to paint these stupid circles on the sidewalk or the parking lot. So they had circles that are six feet apart so they could also demonstrate that you deserve to be written up.

You deserve a citation because we have the measurements here on the concrete and we can see you aren't social distancing. And so when we all started watching all these, the whole crowd, there's about 150 -200 people and they just kind of came from all over town, parked and walking and everything.

As we're all kind of walking up, the cops told Pastor Wilson, hey, if no one's social distancing and not wearing a mask, then we will give people citations or possibly arrest. And so Doug, before we started our first psalm, Doug said that.

He said, he basically relayed the police's information to us and no one really moved. Everyone just kind of stayed. You got about 150 -200 people just stayed there. No one really split up or social distanced.

And then we started singing and I was on the edge of the crowd. I was closest to the cops. I wasn't singled out. This isn't any sort of singling out thing beyond they're singling out my church and worship and First Amendment principles.

But they came up to me and asked my mom. My mom was standing to the right of me. They asked my mom, are you with this man? My mom said, yes, this is my son. So my mom was like, this is my son. She grabs my arm and then the guy next to me was Tyler, my good friend Tyler.

I put my arm around Tyler and I said, but this is my friend. And so when I did that, the cops said, well, I need to see your ID. And so my response to him was you don't need to do this. And then he said, please give me your ID.

And I said, officer, you don't need to do this. You're bigger than this. You know the truth here. And then he said, I need to see your ID. And I said, officer, you need to be out here for the citizens protecting our constitutional rights to worship and not enforcing the mayor's edict.

And he said, I don't want to arrest you. So I basically just kind of ignored what he was saying because it was a mute point. I just used that moment to kind of preach at him. I was like, you don't need to do this.

And then he said one more time, if you don't give me your driver's license, I will arrest you. And so I said, you don't need to do this. And you know better. And so he started cuffing me to the noise, to the beautiful singing of Amazing Grace.

You hear the handcuffs clicking on as my people are singing Amazing Grace in the background. It was a pretty powerful moment.

Go ahead. Well, I was going to let everyone see that, Gabe, real fast. I'll have you finish the story so you can sort of explain what happened afterwards. So here is the footage of that actually happening yesterday downtown.

He comes from heaven above us and in the strength of Austin Cherry. See this happening for BLM, Gabe?

It's unbelievable. Hey, just give us a little space, please. Yeah, just give us a little space. You guys should not be doing this and doing this kind of crap for the mayor. This is embarrassing.

You guys are stronger than this. You shouldn't be doing this. You guys are tough people. This is wrong. You're a cop.

Alright, so there was that video right there. I love how the cop had to take the hymnal from you to put cups on you. I just caught that. I was booked in jail and they took my hymnal and they gave it back to me as I'm leaving the courthouse.

It was fantastic. Well, that's good.

Unlawful Arrest, Medical Exemption, and Jailhouse Psalm Singing

Okay, so Gabe, what took place? Obviously, you get arrested. There were more people that were arrested there and so what happened as you got booked? How did this all end up?

Yeah, so my friend Sean and Rachel also got arrested. Wonderful couple. Pretty crazy moment for them also. So they put me in the back of the police car and they take me to the county jail and so both the deputies are involved in this situation and the Moskopedi are involved.

The deputies booked me and put me in jail. The Moskopedi brought me to the county jail and on the way to the county jail, it's only three minutes away. It's not very far. I'm just talking to the cop the whole time.

I'm like, this is unconstitutional. I have First Amendment rights. I'm just preaching to him. I know he's not really listening but just, hey man, I'm paying for a citation here. I'm paying for a court date so I'm going to use my money wisely here and I'm going to preach to everybody I can.

So we get to the county courthouse and I'm getting out of the cop car and I just said, just so you know, I also have a medical exemption in all this. And you never asked. And I do. According to that resolution, according to the local Moscow resolution, I have a medical exemption.

I'm deaf in one ear. Deaf people don't have to wear a mask. And he's like, well, I'll put that in the paperwork. So there's an unlawful arrest and then they booked me. I'm in jail for about two hours going through their process and as they're releasing me, Sean came in to Sean later followed me in jail and so me and Sean were singing psalms, praying, just having, it was actually a glorious moment in prison.

You know, this was no real Pauline crazy persecution. It was persecution-lite but it was still a glorious moment in jail with my buddy Sean. And so as they're releasing me, I'd say this is probably one of the most egregious, crazy parts about all this.

They're releasing me, I'm sitting down, they're taking my information and I look across the hallway into another office and two deputies, there's three deputies in the room and two of them are wearing no mask and not social distancing.

And as I'm leaving, I walked over, I walked right into the office. I said, hey, officer, you need to arrest these deputies. They aren't social distancing and they aren't wearing a mask. Officer, arrest them.

And the officer told me, he's like, just go. Just get out of here. Don't call out our hypocrisy. Leave. Yeah, exactly. And I said, no, you need to arrest them. They're not social distancing. They're not wearing a face mask.

You need to arrest them. So they basically, they didn't physically force me out, but they really pushed me out of the building. It was just an awkward and funny moment in it all.

Biblical Obedience, Religious Liberty, and the Tyranny of Lies

Hey, I'm grateful to God. And you're right, this could be seen as persecution-lite in a sense, but it's all meaningful because all tyranny, all major persecution, begins in seed form. And here's a moment where you have Christians in this country who are protected by the Constitution.

It gives us the privilege, they think, the right before God to worship God. It gives us the ability to practice our religion and to practice it in public. And a key part of our religion is this, and it's you shall not lie.

Thou shalt not lie. And you guys brought this up last night in your podcast, although it was very, very important. The demand of the government for me to pretend like I'm sick and to lie about being sick is sinful.

There's a religious exemption there. And also in terms of the standard of God's law and how quarantine laws are supposed to work, this is a violation of God's standards of quarantine law. So there's religious exemption across the board here, and then you have a medical exemption that is permitted within the order itself.

I had the same situation actually, Gabe, happen to me fairly recently. I've just been going everywhere, of course, without a mask on. And sometimes in Phoenix, I'm the only person in the entire store that didn't have a mask on.

But I was told I couldn't eat at a place because I didn't have a mask on. And I said, well, I have a medical exemption. And I said, are you following the governor's directives here? And she said, yes, I am.

So you have to have a mask on. I said, well, if you're following what the governor said, I have a medical exemption, as well as a religious one, but I have a medical exemption, so I don't have to do it.

If you're going to follow the governor's directive, then I don't have to wear it. And she said, no, you have to get out. And so there's an arbitrary application of all of these standards. It doesn't make any sense.

And of course, you have the right not to wear one, but you are arrested anyways, without even asking any questions. And I think, I want this to come out, because you guys brought this up yesterday, and I thought it was a critical part of the whole entire argument in terms of the injustice here against Christians, who are the peaceful ones, the actual supporters of the police department.

You've got Black Lives Matter and protests against the police, defund the police protests, that actually fairly recently happened in Moscow, Idaho, correct?

Black Lives Matter Protests, the Mayor’s Wedding, and Arbitrary Enforcement

Yeah, in July, three different Black Lives Matter protests happened in July under the governor's resolution, which which is there's some level of they were disobeying the governor's resolution, but at the same time, they got a city permit to do their Black Lives Matter protests in downtown.

It's real awkward. And the whole partiality in all this, I think that whenever you have petty law like this, it's impossible to actually enforce it without partiality. And then but what's even more egregious on this is our own mayor on September 2nd was at a gathering of more than 50 people not wearing a mask, not social distancing, and then he did a wedding.

He officiated a wedding on September 5th without a mask and without social distancing. So here I am at a worship service at City Hall, and I get arrested, and the mayor doesn't get arrested. Here I am at City Hall at a worship service, a First Amendment right.

It's unbelievable. First Amendment rights. And the deputies at the county jail are not social distancing and not wearing masks. Of course. It's absolutely.

Maddening. It's completely arbitrary. It's completely unjust, and Christians ought to care about things that are unjust and arbitrary because we believe in the Word of God as the objective standard of all truth.

We have a God who's told us what is just, what is righteous, and actually what the role of government is and the boundaries of government, and so we ought to care about these things. Christianity is a comprehensive view of reality.

It's a comprehensive worldview. We should care about these. By the way, take a look real fast at my screen here. This is an actual photograph of the wedding that Gabe is referencing there with the mayor of Moscow from Gabe's page, and so I thought it'd be important to see that.

I don't see appropriate social distancing going on there, but he's not the one who was put in cuffs yesterday. But apparently if you're downtown, single with Christchurch, a little too close, that is worthy of arrest in the city of Moscow right now.

Why Christians Should Not Yield to Mask and Social-Distance Mandates in Worship

Okay, let me ask you, Gabe, because I know your time is short here. We're going to play some more videos when we get off with you, and I'm sure we'll have you on again soon to talk about this. Gabe, I need you to tell us, from a Christian perspective, why in the world wouldn't you just yield?

Why in the world you're out there singing songs of Jesus, but the police come and they say, stop, they don't like how close you are, and it's totally arbitrary. I understand, but Gabe, why don't you just yield?

There's a number of answers that I'll give you two. First of all, if you yield in a worship service to wearing a mask or social distancing, you're saying that the government has authority over the church, and that is false.

That is not true. That is not true constitutionally, and that is not true in the Bible. Jesus is king, he's king of kings, lord of lords, and the constitution also restricts the government making any laws or restrictions or regulations against religious worship services, against churches.

And so there's a constitutional and biblical argument on why wearing a mask is giving into the lie that the government has some sort of authority over the church. Secondly, and practically in all this, there's no pandemic here in our county at all.

Period. Zero. Zilch. No one's been hospitalized, and no one's died to this virus. Zero. Define me a pandemic where no one's died and no one's been hospitalized. You can't. You can't. There's no emergency definition that you can come up with to define this as a pandemic.

And so, you know, you brought this up already, Jeff, but what we've believed a lie, and then now we want everyone to pretend the emperor has clothes on, and so Christians have a duty, whether it's a small lie, a big lie, and this is actually a big lie.

This is not a small lie. You need to wear a mask because of the pandemic. That's a big lie. And so we as Christians have a duty to lead our culture against lies and the effects of the devil, and we are not doing that.

I mean, how many pastors are standing up besides John MacArthur and, you know, a couple pastors here and there nationwide? Not very many. You can probably count on a handful of pastors that you can trust in a foxhole right now.

Yeah. That's right. You know, it's interesting. You guys said on your podcast last night, I encourage you guys all to go check it out over at CrossPolitik. Obviously, emotions were strong and I think worthy and good.

It was a great episode last night. It was phenomenal. They came fresh out of the arrest situation. Gabe came into the studio and said he got to talk about some of that stuff. Very powerful stuff. One of the things that Pastor Toby had said yesterday was that knowing Jesus makes free people.

Knowing Jesus saves people so that they actually have the spiritual, divine gift of self-control. So when you have people who know Jesus, they're under His rule. They are a self-control population. They are a self-governing population.

So when you kick Jesus out of your culture, now you have people who have no self-control. Who steps in to actually maximize the control of a culture? Well, it's government. They'll do it in unjust ways and irresponsible ways and irrational ways and completely arbitrary ways.

And so I think what's important for us as Christians in the midst of all of this is to actually face some of this stuff down with boldness and courage. Speaking of, coming soon is the Fight, Laugh, Feast Conference.

It's gonna be in Franklin, Tennessee. It was supposed to be in Nashville, Tennessee. Franklin, Tennessee. So Fight, Laugh, Feast. And you can see that they mean it when they say it in Moscow. Fight. It's important for us to make sure that we're standing up for righteousness in a culture and justice.

So real fast, Gabe, let's get everyone to the conference. Tell everyone what's happening, how to get there.

Fight, Laugh, Feast, Psalm Singing, and the Call to Stand for Righteousness

Yeah, make sure we actually can't take sign-ups anymore. We're more than full. We've overfilled past demand. And so... Club members can livestream. So anybody can sign up for a club membership and livestream.

Livestream Jeff Durbin, Pastor Doug Wilson, Glenn Sunshine, Rod Martin. So it's gonna be a great time. The conference actually kicks off with a psalm sing which is what I got arrested for last night. I can't wait to fellowship and hang out with everybody and just get into a crowd that wants to fight and wants to love Jesus and wants the gospel to take over the world.

I also want to make sure I invite everybody to a psalm sing tomorrow night at 5 o 'clock at City Hall here in Moscow, Idaho. So please, if you're around the area, if you're in driving distance, get down here.

Love to have a thousand people at City Hall singing psalms to Jesus. Woo! I love it.

No, you need to do it. There's two things happening in Moscow here with the psalm singing. One, they're both legitimate. It's worship of our God. Two, it's peaceful protest. And singing psalms is warfare, baby.

So it needs to be done. And Paul says it's not against flesh and blood. That's right. So Gabe, I love you, brother. Proud of you. And I'm grateful to God for your stand. And looking forward to see the faithfulness of Christchurch.

You, other members, CrossPolitik, our boys. Tell everyone we said hi. And we're looking forward to seeing them next week.

Hey, man. Love you guys. Thank you. Hey, bro. You can't see me, but your show last night inspired me to wear my rowdy Christian media shirt. Awesome, man. I got you. And we will have a booth. Jeff will be speaking.

No, Gabe mentioned that. And we'll have an EndAbortionNow booth at the conference. So come and say hi if you're coming to that conference.

But we'll be there anyway, so if you guys can't get tickets, definitely do what Gabe said. Make sure you guys livestream that. Take a look at everything going on. Great speakers. Important stuff we're talking about.

And Gabe, real fast. Have you left yet? Nope. I'm here. So I think with the message that I was trying to contemplate, like, why did Gabe give me this message? I think it's a great message, but it's something I would probably do over three.

I was like, he either hates me or he knows that I, if he split it into three, I'd probably go for like hours. So he's like, I'll make this where Jeff has to like, squeeze, he has to condense. You got 60 minutes, man.

He has to condense. And I think the title is how Van Til would take down BLM, LGBT, and.

Abortion. Only 60 minutes? 60 minutes.

You better have an air horn ready, Gabe. Yeah, exactly. I'm excited to do it, man. I'm actually working on it, so I'm excited. Good. Well, man, we put that together. We know that that's your lane, and we want to hear from you, man.

Good, brother. Alright, man. Love you, dude. I'll see you next week. Alright, guys. Love you. Later. Hey, everybody. I want to show you more. I got more video. Gabe was short on time, so we weren't able to keep him on.

We'd like to keep him on the whole time, but I wanted to show you some more video. So, I'll do it this way. This is a little gentler version. So here are two of the other members of Christchurch. This was their interaction with the police.

I won't play all of it, because it is three minutes long. It's a little longer. So this was two of the other members. There was just three arrested. Others were cited. If you see this couple, they are the most gentle looking, gracious couple ever.

And they're the ones being arrested. So here you go. Here's the content.

So, you got all these people close together here, worshipping Jesus.

And here's the part where they get arrested. Why pick out these two people? They look rowdy. They look like they're just up to no good. Singing the doxology, baby. That's a powerful moment right there.

You can tell that these Moscowites are used to this sort of thing, because they're not even phased by it. They just keep singing like nothing's going down.

They're focused on Jesus right there. Singing the doxology while getting cuffs on. That's got to be a pretty cool milestone in your life. What would the context look like if you were going to be arrested?

I'd love to go out and sing the doxology. It's great.

Pray for this young couple. I can't remember their names. I know Gabe was saying that they weren't handling it as well as he was.

You can tell she looks pretty terrified. It gets real when people put cuffs on you. My son August, at the end of church we do the doxology and apology at church always, and everyone comes and raises their hands to do the doxology.

That's what he's been raised in since he was born last December. Now when we go to the front of church, he has his hand up. He's only nine months old, and he puts his hand up for the doxology and for the other songs because he sees everyone doing it.

He loves it. I wanted to show you that moment. They're all singing to Jesus. Obviously it's an intense situation. Nobody knows what's going to happen exactly. Gabe's arrested. This brother and sister are arrested.

Then I think when they cart Gabe off, that is where our boy Darren Doan has some words. You see here is going to be Chocolate Knox and Darren Doan have words for the police.

If you go to their episode they did last night like emergency episode they call it or something, there's another video between what we just showed you and between this one that they play on the show. I think it was Darren's raw footage that he's using for something else.

I don't think it's up anywhere, but there's a lot more going on there. You guys need to check that out if you haven't seen it.

Righteous Anger, Police Hypocrisy, and the Need for Christian Courage

This is the conflict after Gabe is taken off. This is Darren Doan and Chocolate Knox interacting with the police. I think you should listen to what's being said. I just want to prepare you for this. Christchurch has the City of Moscow Police Department they have their back.

They've encouraged them. They've sent encouraging messages to them during this whole pandemic and rioting and looting and all the rest. They've told them that we're here to encourage you, to bless you.

When there was defund the police stuff going on Christchurch was making sure the police knew that we love you guys we want to encourage you, we want to support you and now that same police department is taking away members of Christchurch for a completely arbitrary reason and for something that is not ultimately just in terms of an arrest and punishment.

It's an intense moment, but I think it's righteous anger.

Everybody here backed you up when they said defund you. Everybody came here to back you up and you didn't arrest anybody over there. You did nothing while they said defund you. Everybody here would back you up.

Everybody here would take a bullet for any of you and everybody there that wanted you dead, that wanted you defunded, you didn't do anything. My wife called you guys and said we had your back. We were with you.

Everybody here, you crossed the line today. You crossed the line today. You broke your oath. You're oath breakers.

That's Aaron Wrench by the way, the basemouth. Gabe's brother, you can shroom. What do you call him? He's your favorite wrench? I love Gabe, I love Aaron, they're both awesome. It's an intense moment.

And an important moment. What's difficult obviously for everyone to wrap their minds around here is how we can have riots and looting taking place across the entire country. You can have people standing side by side together doing protests for Black Lives Matter for Karl Marx for all that they are doing and that's called peaceful protest and we say guys, we really understand.

You have a First Amendment protected speech right you have the right to gather, peacefully protest, all that, so you're allowed to do these things even in the midst of a pandemic. But as soon as you have the same city that there was just defund the police and BLM protests in, as soon as you have Christchurch, people singing songs to Jesus outside of City Hall in Moscow, Idaho that's where you start seeing people getting citations and arrests.

Obviously it's unjust and obviously we need to start caring as Christians because listen, here's the deal if this can happen, and by the way, we love Moscow, Idaho. Whenever I get a chance to go up there to film stuff with them, to speak with Doug or whatever the case may be they're like family to us Moscow feels like a second home in many ways to us because we go there and we know our way around, we get to stay at Darren's house most of the time it really is like family.

You've got to understand, and Gabe's right Moscow, Idaho very conservative area but at the same time it's right next to the University of Idaho, which is hyper-liberal liberal hyper-liberal and just dramatic in the sense of the commitments that they have and the worldview that they have in its opposition to the Christian worldview.

So it's a weird area because sometimes you're there and you're like man, does Christchurch own this whole town? They own the great businesses on Main Street they own businesses all over town you run into Christchurch members all over town you see the impact that church is having for the glory of God on their city and then globally, and sometimes you're like man, this place, Christchurch is doing it right but there's this other segment of Moscow that is very liberal, leftist, unbelieving radical, and so you see those two communities coming into collision quite a lot.

And there's Washington State right across. That's right, they're right there. It's right on the edge there Pullman, yeah.

Knowing the context of the area you can see it's obvious it's obvious that the government and police department in Moscow, Idaho is really siding with a more leftist, destructive ideology in terms of what will be permitted within the city limits but what is apparently not permitted is worshipping Jesus too closely together and it is interesting too we talk about government in America, you can thank God for the Christian worldview for the formal government that was supposed to be operating and is supposed to be operating today.

You should thank the Christian worldview for that the checks and balances, representative government, understanding that look, we have Jesus he's the king, we don't need another king. There's no king but Christ, that sort of a thing.

You know, there's a context that gave us this nation, and it's a Christian context it's a biblical context. Thank God for the Scottish covenanters who helped create this country, the Puritans the biblical worldview, those post-millennialist baby, they did a good job.

It wasn't perfection, it wasn't a utopia. But what was good, was definitely good because it was from God's word. But we think about, when we hear about representative government, it means that from a Christian perspective the government is supposed to be under God first and foremost, but it's supposed to represent the will of the people.