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Could Joe Biden be a Christian? Welcome to The Rap Report with your host,

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Andrew Rappaport, where we provide biblical interpretation and application. This is a ministry of striving for eternity and the

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Christian podcast community. For more content or to request a speaker for your church, go to strivingforeternity .org.

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All right, well, welcome, by the way, if you hear some music in the background, that is provided by my co -host here,

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Bud. He wanted to have some marching music for us while we talk about these issues today.

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We'll see how long we keep that running. It's not quite marching to Zion, but still.

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Yes, well, folks, we have an interesting show for you today, because basically what we're going to have is today we want to talk about an article that was put out in The Christian Post.

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Now, this is where we're going to start. What we plan to do today is talk about Joe Biden and some of his

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Christian comments. Yes, that's right. We're going to talk about some people who are supporting him in this endeavor for election this week, and then we're going to look and evaluate what they're saying and, well, compare it to Scripture.

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And then we'll wrap up with a view that has been put out, a radical view of how to deal with those people, those people who have the nerve to support

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Trump, how to deal with them. That's right. The left is providing for us an understanding of how they plan to deal with us when

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Biden wins. That is coming to you right now on The Rap Report. So I'm your host,

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Andrew Rapaport. Here joined with me is my good friend, Bud Alheim, who is struggling in the very cold, cold weather of sunny Florida.

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Yes, it was like 77 when I got home from work yesterday. So I sat out in the back,

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I did a little Scripture reading, talked with my bride, and it just bristled at the chill. Yeah, well,

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I had that bristle this morning when I went out, you know, just to stand outside for a little bit and, you know, get to breathe in that cool air.

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You don't get that. But I am glad to see that for those who listened to the previous episode on masks, those who are

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Patreons can watch and see that Bud's microphone is still masked up.

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It has its mask on. It's saying to repent. So I'm glad that it's still wearing its mask and we will, we will be recording another episode on masks.

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That was that one we did with Dr. Silvestro, got a lot of feedback, a lot of both good and bad people who have strong views on masks.

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We've learned that and we will be doing an episode that will probably drop next week.

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I'll tell you that up front with Pastor Andrew Smith dealing with the masks issue from a biblical perspective.

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So you know, if Biden wins, that's going to be a very necessary discussion because he's claiming that we're going to be wearing masks, you know, even if we're driving alone in our car.

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But we'll get to that. All right. Let's get to this article, Bud. I was very surprised to see an article from, you know, by Joe Biden in the

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Christian Post. So this is a magazine geared toward Christians. This is something that I want us to go through and examine.

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What exactly is, whoever really wrote this, because I think we both can understand that Joe Biden didn't write it.

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He had someone write it. He probably maybe reviewed it. Maybe he didn't even review it. I mean, we don't, he doesn't even know what state he's in.

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I was going to say, there are a lot of words in this and they're actually pretty coherent. So I think he had some help probably.

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Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, he doesn't know what state he's in and I don't mean Michigan or, you know,

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Wyoming. I mean, he doesn't know what state he's in, like state of mind. State of mind.

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Yes. I mean, he doesn't know if he's running against Donald Trump or George Bush, because he actually said that, you know, in one thing.

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But he doesn't know that he isn't running for re -election. He doesn't even know, because I don't know if you heard this one this week, but he actually called himself the running mate of Harris.

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So he doesn't even know he's running for president. He thinks he's the running mate. I mean, he doesn't know what state of mind he's in.

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That's going to feed a whole lot of conspiracy. That comment. Well, I'm sure it will, but I don't think it's conspiracy.

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I think it's... Yeah, maybe true. Yeah. Yeah. I think everybody knows that if Joe Biden wins, it's a

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Harris presidency because, you know, he... Look, first off, before we get to this article, what does it tell you that the guy's best chance of winning is hiding in his basement?

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I mean, that right there should tell you something. I had a friend that sent me the rallies for Biden.

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It had like 30, 36 circles with a chair in the middle. Yeah. And a big stage.

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And for him to be up there to, you know, and six of those chairs were empty. Empty. Yeah. So that's not good.

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You know, 20 percent empty. And then you have the Trump rallies. They're packed.

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I mean, it was interesting. I forget what state he was in where the governor limited it to 250 people. And they had like tens of thousands of people that were around where the rally was because they weren't allowed into the rally that was outside.

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Yeah. And so, you know, Trump actually came out to them to greet them. That's kind of interesting. So let's deal with this article.

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I want to deal with this kind of piece by piece. But overall, and I will put the links in the show notes so you can read the article.

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But this is from The Christian Post, an article from Joe Biden that's titled

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The Greatest Commandment Has Guided My Politics. And I really want to question whether that's true. There are two underlying issues with this article.

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Two things biblically we have to address. One, that human beings are made in the image of God, the motto gay, motto gay, sorry.

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The other is that we're all children of God. So I want to address this because this is something that I think we are going to see.

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He doesn't quite know his scripture or whoever wrote the article. They're using scripture,

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OK? And this is something I want us to recognize, that they're using scripture to undermine

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Christianity. And I think this is what bothers me so much with what I'm seeing here.

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And this is what the overarching theme of today's show is going to end up being. This is unbelievers who hate

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Christianity using God and his word to undermine

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God. If I get spun up here today, if I get emotional, this is going to be the reason why.

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Because this is such a, I can't even put the right words to it, but it's such a disrespect to the

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God that I love to be taking his word and his character and taking that and twisting it to try to promote the exact opposite of what his word says.

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So let me start with God's word on this. Who are the children of God? He's going to,

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Biden's going to make the argument that we're all children of God. Is that true? No, we're not

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Mormonism, which teaches that. We're not many other false religions, man -made religions that teach that.

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What does God say on the issue? Turn in your Bibles. Well, OK, not if you're driving. If you're driving, just listen.

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But if you're not driving, pause, open your Bible, because I want you to see what

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God actually says. And if you're driving, just go to John 1, 12 later, not now, later when you're not driving.

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Hands on the reel. All right. So John 1, 12 and 13 says this, but as many as receive him, to them, he gave the right to become children of God.

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Even to those who believe in his name, who were born not of blood, not of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

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Not everybody is a child of God. Only those who receive him, according to this text, have the right.

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So not everyone has the right to claim they're a child of God. So as we go through this article that Biden writes, you see over and over again, he appeals to the fact that we're all children of God.

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No. Only those that receive him, who believe on his name, have that right.

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And that doesn't come by blood. That means genealogy. It doesn't mean that I was raised

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Jewish and believed that my Judaism was saving me. The fact that I was born of the chosen people, that I was chosen and going to heaven.

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No. So if you're born Jewish, if you're born Catholic, you're not automatically going to heaven.

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So it's not that you're born of blood that's going to, it's not your genealogy that's going to give you this right.

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It's also means that just because you're part of the human race, you don't get that right. Nor does the will of flesh.

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So it's not just the desire that you have, that you want to be a Christian, that you want to be a child of God.

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Nor is it the will of man. In other words, nor is it your works, your good works are not going to get you to be a child of God.

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The only thing that gets a person to have the right to be called a child of God is

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God. But God. Well, I was going to say, it's that scripture from John ties directly to what

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Paul wrote in Ephesians 2 .4. But God, you are all these things, but God, this is sovereignty.

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But your comment, I think, with regard to Imago Dei, certainly you see

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Roman Catholics, I think, promoting this notion born out of a misunderstanding of that doctrine, of that clear teaching of scripture, that because we're all made in the image of God, we're all children of God.

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And that is absolutely incorrect. And many evangelicals have adopted that misunderstanding of Imago Dei as well to completely distinct things.

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Everyone is made in the image of God, but only in Christ are we being transformed into the conformity with Christ where we can rightly reflect that image of God that we were made in.

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So we're not all children of God, but, you know, you talk to the typical evangelical pew sitter now,

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I think they're going to adopt that understanding because it sounds gracious and it sounds tolerant and noble, but it is just not biblical.

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And this is the thing, let's let us first start by addressing what does it mean to be made in the image of God?

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Because people misunderstand this, and this is why they think they're children of God. Because they think being made in the image of God means we're like Him in some way.

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You have the little God's doctrine that Word of Faith teaches. Right. That God, we're made in His image and we're like Him in deity.

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We're little gods. You have a lot of differing views. This is, theologically, the way we understand the image of God is that we have certain attributes communicated to us that God also has.

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So the theologians break up when we do a study on the attributes of God into generally two categories, communicable and incommunicable.

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It just means communicated or not communicated. So those attributes that we share with God are those communicated.

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Things like emotion, intelligence, justice. These are things God communicates to us, but not all of His attributes are.

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His omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence, those are not. We don't have those things.

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So there's certain attributes that are of God alone. There are certain attributes that are communicated to us as human beings.

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And that is what it means to be made in the image of God. Now, I differentiate the attributes of God a little bit differently because there are attributes that are shared not only with men, but also with angels and angels are not made in the image of God.

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Therefore, how do we distinguish them? So when I, if you do at Striving Fraternity, if you take our Striving Fraternity Academy on systematic theology, like 80 lessons on theology, have workbooks to go along with it.

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Great for homeschooling, by the way, a lot of people use it. But those classes, free, by the way, on YouTube, I go through starting with the attributes of God.

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Why? Because all your theology is going to be based on that. But how do I break them down? First, I break it down by the attributes of deity.

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Those attributes that are of God alone, they're not communicated or shared with angels or nor humans.

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Then there are attributes of personality. Those attributes that are shared by both angels and human beings.

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And then there's attributes of morality, which only are shared with human beings.

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So I've chosen to break it down that way because I think that then that shows us what it means to be made in the image of God is that we have certain attributes that angels cannot have.

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They can't share in certain moral things because they don't have that freedom.

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Shall we say, I want to say will, but we know that free wills, we have a will.

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It's just not free. Angels have a will. It's just theirs also is not free.

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That's right. By the way, bud, this is, I saw the look on your face. I didn't want to go off in that direction.

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I know. I saw the look on your face. We got a rabbit hole here. Yeah. So let me just say, I've been changing the term.

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I don't want to use free will because theologically that's a problem. Free will means you have a will that is not influenced by anything outside of the will itself.

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That's what it means to be theologically free. God has a free will. He isn't influenced by anything outside of his nature.

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We have a enslaved will. We have a will that's enslaved to sin and it's not free.

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However, as Christians, we have a free will. So I am using the term human will. It's something

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I started using in the last month to distinguish when I, instead of saying free will that people understand,

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I refer to it as human will and human will is enslaved to sin until someone is

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Christian. Now let's get back on topic, Ephesians chapter two, because you brought up, you brought up verse four, but I think what's essential to this is really starting in verse one.

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This is going to help us walk through this and you were dead in your trespasses and sins in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.

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Among them, we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indwelling the desire of the flesh and of the mind and were by nature, children of wrath, even as the rest, but God, that's great.

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Those two words, but God being rich in mercy because of his great love, which he loved us even when we were dead in our trespasses, our transgressions made us alive with Christ by grace, you have been saved and raised up with him and seated with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

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So that in the ages to come, he might show the surpassing riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

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And then the passage that so many know for by grace, you have been saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God, not as a result of works so that no one may boast.

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Now so not as a result of works would also mean not as a result of politics.

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Yeah. Yeah. Politics won't save politics, won't save us.

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And now I'm going to say something shocking. Politics won't save our country, our nation either.

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Amen. Amen. Okay. That is the problem for many as they think that the solution is political.

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The politicians will follow the culture. So what we need to do is see a saved culture.

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But because before, we will eventually get this article from Biden, but I want to give this as the underpinning because this is so essential to what we're going to see.

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There is a contrast here in Ephesians 2 between the way the world is. And by the way, if you saw in that verse 3, by nature, we are children of wrath, not children of God.

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So when we compare this with John 1 12, we see this distinction between the children of wrath and the children of God.

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There is a very clear distinction between the two. And what we see going on for political gains is a muddying of these waters.

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And I want this to be clear as we go through this. So you see, these are children of wrath telling the world that they're children of God.

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These are children of wrath trying to redefine what it is children of God should be believing and practicing and doing.

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And what is it that defines or characterizes these children of God? Well, the way that we used to formally walk, the lust of the flesh, indulging in the desires of the flesh and of the mind, right?

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This is what describes us. And this is a way as Christians, we formally walked, which means we turn away from those things.

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We don't follow those things anymore. We follow Christ. That's the distinction being made here.

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Yeah, exactly. I think, you know, a couple of, two, three, four times maybe in the last half of that section, the emphasis is in Christ Jesus, in Christ Jesus, in Christ Jesus.

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God did this, made us alive together with Christ. There's a clear distinction. You're, you're a child of wrath or you're a child of God's love and grace.

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You're a slave of righteousness, you're a slave of unrighteousness. And to your point earlier, the most offensive thing is something that should be easily discerned by Christians is when we see scripture quoted and used for,

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I mean, they're pandering for the sake of temporal benefit. We've got the eternal word of God here.

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It has effects and impact on our temporal obedience, what our life looks like, how we need to live, how we need to obey.

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But when you see it taken out of context, applied, especially by a guy that does not believe anything that the entirety of scripture teaches.

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When you see it applied that way, it's offensive. There is severe judgment for mishandling or misappropriating the word of God, particularly for a temporal political purpose.

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You talk now, I'm sorry. Yeah, no, because there's one thing I want to say, because we're going to get to this later on, you know, on this, but in verse two, it says that the world is walking according to the prince of the power of the air.

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And he's also described as the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.

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So not only are we children of wrath naturally, so the natural state of man is the children of wrath.

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But if you're in Christ, as Bud was saying, if you're in Christ, then you have a right to be called the child of God.

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These are also called sons of disobedience. Okay. So I just wanted to lay this as a groundwork because we're going to come back to this spirit that is now working.

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And we're going to see this from a very surprising source later on. So I'm just asking you to hold that thought.

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Let's go through this article now, Bud. This is, it starts off, he starts off by saying in the gospel of Matthew, Jesus is asking, teacher, what is the greatest commandment of the law?

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To love the Lord your God with all your mind, heart, with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind.

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And he said, this is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it, love your neighbor as yourself.

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All the laws and the prophets hang on these two commandments. Now we wouldn't disagree with anything there, right?

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No, that's Matthew 22. There you go. So you have this guy quoting scripture, writing in the

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Christian post. And what's he then say? He then says, these abiding principles, loving

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God and loving others are the very foundation of my faith. Wait, stop.

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What, let's ask, what is his faith? His faith is Roman Catholicism. He's a Roman Catholic.

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Now, why might he have written this article? Could it be, could it be, but I could be wrong.

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But I mean, this, this is came out yesterday. Could it be that the Democrats just spent several weeks bashing

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Catholicism because of Justice Barrett? And now they realize, wait a minute, we need those

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Catholic votes. Let's sound like good Catholics, because all of a sudden, Biden's coming out announcing he's

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Catholic. Pelosi came out and announced she's Catholic. All of a sudden, all these Democrats are

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Catholic. They're good Catholics. So is Catholicism Christianity?

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That's the first question we have to ask. I think Bud is going to make me answer first. I'll say no.

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All right, now move on. It's not. Go ahead. It's not. And by the way, the Catholic church says so.

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Remember, it was the Catholic church that killed Christians. The Catholic church that said, if you believe in what we just read in Ephesians 2, 8, 9, if you believe that you're saved by grace through faith, apart from works, then you are damned.

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You are a curse. That's the Catholic church. And they killed Christians for that.

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So there's no way you could say that they would kill those of us that are hold to evangelical

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Christianity is the same as Catholicism when they called us cursed, going to hell.

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What I'm saying when I say that I believe the same about Catholics is I agree with them. We are not the same.

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Okay. But I could justify it and say the reason that they would be cursed and going to hell is because as we read, their natural state is sons of wrath, children of wrath, sons of disobedience.

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That's their natural state. And apart from a working of God alone, not through works, they're not a child of God.

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That's not me saying it. That's God. We read this earlier. So his faith that he talks about is one of his

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Catholic and he ends up saying next paragraph, My Catholic faith drilled this into me at a core truth.

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But is he really believing that? Does he really hold to love God and love your neighbor?

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You have to look at the platform he stands on and ask that question. Okay. Now, I will say for the record,

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Mike Pence, who is a genuine Christian, did write an article as well. They both have op -ed pieces that came out.

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Mike Pence, I actually do know people that know him personally. I've been to the church where he used to attend.

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I do know people that know him and have confirmed that, yes, he is someone that has a genuine faith, genuine belief in Christ.

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Joe Biden is a Roman Catholic. And therefore, if he holds to Roman Catholic teachings, he would not be able to be saved because Roman Catholicism teaches that you are saved by works plus faith.

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That is going to be different than what we would see in Scripture. Okay. So it's not me being mean to Catholics.

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I'm just stating the facts of what their church teaches compared to what Scripture teaches.

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All right. So, They need to repent. Repent. Yeah, exactly what it says on your microphone.

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That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And people should be patrons just to see that your repent has flames and all on it.

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So, so, so here's the thing. We have to first identify that he's, he's writing to evangelical

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Christians, but about his Catholic faith. And there's far too many people that are trying to argue that, see, he's a man of faith and Trump is not.

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Well, neither one of them are. No, no, exactly. I mean, and, you know, we happen to be recording this on Reformation Day.

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It cannot go without notice that even the rich ecumenical movement with evangelicals and Catholics, this is completely wrong.

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This is contrary to what Scripture says, especially what we've just read in Ephesians. We need to pray for Catholics.

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We need to witness to Catholics. We need to share the gospel with them. But to say that Joe Biden is a

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Christian. No, that's false. Now, he goes on to say, and this is amazing, you know, sometimes it's what people say that, you know, they stumble into truth, which exposes that they know the truth.

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They just deny it because he says in the same creed that is at the core of our

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American experience and written into our founding documents that we are all created equal and endowed by our creator with inalienable rights.

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Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Is he saying that we were built on Christian values? Because that's all what they are trying to argue against.

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So he's right. We were. This country was founded on Christian values. It wasn't a

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Christian nation. It was on Christian values. And that is why the

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American experiment has been so prosperous, I believe, is because of those values that we held and ways of trying to keep that.

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Now, he's going to end up referring to Dr. King and, you know, argue, you know, because, you know, he's going to bring up race issues later.

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So you got to always throw Dr. King in. But I think that's just him giving a token. He doesn't quote him just for personal, you know.

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So he does say, though, that we're facing a crisis. And on this, I will agree with him.

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We are facing a crisis. However, he says the crisis is threats to the very, you know,

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Amigo Dei. Are we really facing a crisis of the image of God?

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Well, we are, but not the way he's saying it. He says it's a battle for the nation. Now, he's going to argue that the battle is over systemic racism.

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But see, you don't have people arguing that African -Americans are not human anymore.

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That's not an argument people are making. So that's not where we see the argument of the

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Amigo Dei being argued. Actually, where we see the argument that humans are not human is in Joe Biden's party that says that children in the womb are not human beings.

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That's where you see that. So he wants to argue for, you know, that the very fabric of our country is under crisis because the image of God is not being valued.

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Well, he's right, but it's not with racism. That issue has been dealt with in the past.

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And we don't see people making that argument today. What we do see people making an argument is that children in the womb are not humans.

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That's where the battle is. There is a crisis there. But the argument that we end up seeing there is that he's on the wrong side of history.

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He's arguing for the murder of millions of children, mostly black.

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So clearly he doesn't believe black lives matter. He only believes black lives matter at the voting booth.

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That's where he thinks black lives matter. If you don't vote for him, as he has said, then you're not really black.

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He has said that to a black man on air. You know, if you don't vote for him, you're not black.

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He degrades black people. He has a low view of black people. Blacks are there to vote for him.

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That's what they're there for. That seems to be his view. He doesn't care about blacks in the womb.

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Black lives don't matter to him in the womb. There is a crisis of the image of God.

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Why? Because those in the womb are being said that they are not human beings. And therefore, the woman who owns the body can kill them.

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I just ask the question, what is the difference between this is my property and this is my body?

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They are both ownership issues. The difference is, this is my property required the owner to care for, provide for the slave.

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Not kill them. They were useless dead. Abortion is an ownership issue where the goal is the slaughter of another human being.

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Claiming they're not human so that you can kill them. That is where the real crisis is.

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And he is on the wrong side of God on that crisis. God is a

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God of life. He's the source of life. And Biden is of the party of death.

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They want to kill children in the womb. They want to support assisted suicide so you can kill your elderly.

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And just remember, they're the party that wants to control your healthcare. So they're a party of death and you're not valuable if you're not working.

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What's going to happen when you get older? Oh, you say, hey, I don't care. That's 60 years from now.

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But when you're 60 years later, you're going to lose the argument. The argument is now that has to be made. If you don't fight for your rights now, you're not going to have them 60 years from now.

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And the government is going to say, well, you're not adding to our culture. You're not adding to the government. Gone.

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We're not going to pay for your healthcare. You're going to have nowhere to turn by then. So in this article, he says he is running for president and he's asking for our vote.

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Now, he's writing this to Christians because he's saying the reason is that we stand on, you know, he says we, we, sorry, who are we, what we stand for, and maybe the most important, who we want to be as a nation are at stake.

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Character is at the ballot. Now, character of our nation, the core values that define this nation are on the ballot.

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While I'm running as a proud Democrat, I will serve president for all Americans. Let's break that up and seize this because character, the character of a man who lies, who says that he has nothing to do with foreign dignitaries, but proudly announces when he was vice president that he got a prosecutor removed, who is investigating a company that his son just months before became on the ballot, or sorry, on the board of directors.

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And we now see that there's from his son's emails that he was receiving 10 % of these millions of dollars.

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He was receiving from China, from Russia. This is character? We know two things about the character of Trump and Biden.

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Trump, though his character morally we're going to disagree with, but what we know about his character, he does what he says he's going to do.

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He's done that for four years. Biden, we know his character. He is like us, a shaft thrown into the wind, just a feather thrown in the wind.

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Whatever way the wind blows, he's going to do that. Remember, this is a guy that supported white supremacy and is now arguing for black supremacy.

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Black lives, yes. Okay. Chameleon, completely political chameleon. So he has no character.

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He's got no backbone. You know, he's not coherent, which is why they got to hide him away in a basement.

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That should be pathetic. This is the best way to get a vote for Joe Biden is to keep him shut up.

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If he wins, can you shut him up in the White House? Yes, you can, Andrew. You know there's a basement in the

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White House. It happens to be, I think, where the war room is from which you can launch missiles and stuff like that.

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So they can put him in the basement there where he can do much more damage potentially. Well, the point is that their goal is to keep him out.

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I mean, the best way for him to win is to not be seen or heard. That tells you something about his character.

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Yeah. Okay. And that he's going to be a president for all Americans, really. He's going to be a president for Christians.

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He's writing this to Christians. What is his party, what are they saying? We're going to get to this later.

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But they basically say that churches should be shut down. Protests, rioting, looting, that should run freely.

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But church, you should not be allowed to go to church. Yeah, you know, and that's the other thing.

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When he says character is on the ballot, the character of our nation. And you just glance around at some of the

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Democratic strongholds, cities that have had these riots, these protests, all this

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Black Lives Matter, Antifa, all of these things that are driven by a Democratic worldview.

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Is that the character of our nation that we want to move to? Well, let's have a look at that because we do have a clear example with this

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COVID thing that he's going to bring up in his article. We do have a clear thing. The president let the states run their state.

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That's actually the way our country is set up. And now they want to blame, he blames 220 ,000 deaths on Trump.

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Well, that is, you know, Trump has some things that he's done. But what's clear is what were the

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Democrats doing when Trump was trying to deal with this virus? They were calling him xenophobic, racist.

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And in the House, Pelosi was actually trying to create a bill at the time that he was banning travel from China.

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She was trying to create a bill to limit his ability to do that. So if the

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Democrats had their way, there would be far more than 220 ,000 deaths because it would have spread a lot more.

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He shut it down early and they criticized him for it. They didn't want him shutting down. Remember, the

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Democrats were the ones going into Chinatown going, let's all be in public. Let's all go here. Let's all, you know, show support for Chinese people.

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So this is what they wanted to do. Now, in this article, he claims not only does he try to say that it's all

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Trump's fault for all the deaths, which, by the way, I think Trump did a great job in the last debate in exposing the fact that when there was something that was far less deadly as this virus during the

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Obama administration, what did they do? They failed. I mean, even Biden's own, you know, the guy who worked for Biden at that time said it was just luck they did everything wrong.

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It was just luck that it wasn't deadly and didn't kill more people. But if far more people got it, if that was as deadly as this virus, we would be in the millions.

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OK, so that's what it is. So he says, but he ends up saying this amazing quote.

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Yet eight months in, this administration has no plan and no intention of enacting a strategy to get ahead of the virus so we can safely get back to our lives, unquote.

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All right. Let's see if this is true. Characters on the ballot. Lying is a sin.

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Does Trump have no plan and no intention of enacting a strategy to get us ahead of the virus, to get us back to our lives?

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That's patently false. How do I know? Because the very next paragraph, Biden's going to lay out his plan. He goes,

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I'm going to choose a different way. What is he going to do? He says his administration is going to lead a decisive public health response that ramps up free testing.

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I could be wrong here, bud. But are we doing any testing right now for COVID virus?

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It's funny. As I drive back and forth to work, these little signs are popping up, same day

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COVID test results. Testing is everywhere. And the test numbers are going up and up and up.

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And that's actually a good thing because it gives us even more data on how truly lethal this is across the general population.

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The testing, let's look at the numbers. 142 million tests have been done.

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That's like a third of the population or something. Yeah. Yeah. The total population is 331 million.

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So it is almost half of the population. That's how many tests have been done. Okay. China has the most tests with 160 million.

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But they also have 1 .4 billion people. So that is nowhere near.

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They're at almost a little bit over a tenth of their population testing. Okay. We have almost half.

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So when he makes this claim that there's nothing, there's no plan, that Trump is doing nothing, 142 million tests, they don't talk about that.

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So he's going to do testing. He's going to ramp it up. Ramp what up? It's already been done. Okay. What next will he do?

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He's going to ramp up free testing so that we can trace the virus and curb the spread.

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He's going to eliminate all cost barriers for treatments. I don't think there is a cost barrier right now.

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So, again, he's going to do Trump's plan. He's going to increase manufacturing and distribution of personal protective equipment to our frontline workers.

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I could be wrong, but, bud, that's exactly what Trump did. In fact, Trump did it in a way that the

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Democrats didn't want. The Democrats wanted to force the businesses to make these products at no cost.

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Trump gave incentives to businesses so that you had a pillow company, MyPillow.

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MyPillow was creating masks. And you have companies that were 3M was making ventilators.

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What did they do? They figured out, they realized, okay, we can't make the things we were going to do. GM making ventilators. They make cars.

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But they have the tools to also be able to make ventilators. Why did they do it?

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Because they realize their business cannot function, but they can continue working in a different way.

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Trump incentivized them to create the PPE, the personal protective equipment.

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So Biden says he's going to increase manufacturing distribution. But right now we have a surplus.

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We didn't have a surplus before. Where did the surplus come from? Oh, Trump. So he says no intention, no strategy.

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And so far, three of the things he's going to do, Trump's already done. I'm confused on this.

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He's going to also ensure a rapid distribution of a safe and effective vaccine when it's ready.

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Well, Trump has already said he's got the military ramped up, ready to do that. They're waiting on the vaccine. So you look at this and go, what's he going to do?

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Everything he's proposing is what Trump's already done. They're going to lead in an economic response with emergency pay for those who are hit hard.

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But which party is holding that up right now? The Republicans had four different stimulus packages, and Nancy Pelosi has held them all up.

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It's the Democrats holding them up. So you look at his plan. He says there's no intention of enacting a strategy by Trump, and yet every single one of the points he says he's going to do is what

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Trump has already done. So why not just stick with the guy that's actually done it then, right?

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I mean, this is where he's outright lying. Orange man bad. Yes. Well, that's the whole theme of this election, right?

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Yeah, right. You don't think this through. Don't pay attention to details.

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It's just orange man bad. I mean, I think that Pence said it in his debate with Harris, right?

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You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts, and you're not entitled to your own truth.

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Sorry. All right? So he ends up arguing that he's going to work closely with the governors,

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Democrat and Republican. Wait. Again, that's exactly what Trump's administration did.

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So he says they had no plan, but what you end up seeing is everything he's suggesting is what

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Trump has already done. Now, here's what really frustrated me in this article, other than the fact that here you have a guy that's using

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God's word to argue that Christians should vote for a party that is anti -Christian.

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But here he had the nerve, the audacity to quote Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

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The iron is here, bud. You skipped so much good stuff too, but yes, I agree with you.

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Go for it. Okay. Yes, I did. Yeah. We should deal with that.

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I just wanted to make a comment about, you know, to beat COVID, back on the COVID thing. Yeah. To quote the article, he says, to beat

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COVID -19, we must all work together to pull our country out of this crisis. We must all wear masks.

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It's not a political statement. It's a manifestation of God's commandment to love our neighbors as ourselves so we can save lives.

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So he's, you know, he's doing a Christian thing there. But what gets me, and it was a pundit, and I don't know who it was that said this, and I thought it was pretty jocular.

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He said, of all elections that we've had, this will probably be the easiest one for exit polling because all of the people coming out wearing masks voted

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Democrat. All the ones coming out not wearing masks. Now, that's certainly not true, but I thought, well, that's pretty funny.

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But we must all wear masks, and we've dealt with the mask issue.

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Is it actually a manifestation of God's commandment to love our neighbor? Well, we're going to deal with that next episode.

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Yeah, so we'll get to that. So I do want people to tune in. But he is saying that he wants the economy to come back, but what has he said he's going to do?

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He wants to do a complete shutdown. His complaint is that we didn't shut down enough now.

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So they want to shut everything down. And how's that going to help get our economy and our lives back quickly?

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It's not. The reality is what we need to do to get things back to normal, to get the economy back quickly, is to tell the truth about these numbers, to tell the truth about that 0 .03

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% are going to die from this, that if you're under the age of 50, you have a 99 % chance of recovery.

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The fact that 0 .37 % to 0 .34

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% have a chance of getting it. So the chance of you getting this and the chance of you dying from this is slim.

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So go about your day. That's what's going to recover. People are trusting in a vaccine.

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Give everyone a placebo then because it's just a thought that there's a vaccine. Now he gets into the systemic racism.

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Now we did cover this because he deals with this as the issue of the image of God. And he ends up saying this is going to be the core part of his administration.

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He says rightly that systemic racism is antithetical to the idea of the

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Imago Dei. The issue there is there is no systemic racism.

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If we are truly a systemic racist country, then there's only one thing to do.

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Ship every black out to Africa. Because he can't fix it. If it's systemic, you can't fix it.

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Okay? That's the only solution. It's a systemic problem. You can't fix it then.

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That's not what God's word says. It is true that if you had a view that people are not human beings that are human beings, that is antithetical to the

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Imago Dei. But it's not in racism that we see that. That's an abortion.

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The very thing his party and he supports. That is antithetical.

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It's not systemic racism because that isn't what the systemic racism that we had in an earlier part of this country.

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And by the way, it's impossible that this country was systemically racist for one simple reason.

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Slavery was not part of the country. It was the South. You know where the

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Democrats were fighting for it? It was the South, the Democrats. That was where the systemic racism, you could argue, was.

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Because that's the party that said they were not human, they were slaves. It was the North, where the abolitionists were.

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It's the North where people were fighting to end slavery. So, you can't argue it's a systemic issue when it took white people to end it.

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Okay? So, if it was systemic, they would not have done that. They would have no choice but to be racist.

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So, the argument breaks down, but you're not supposed to think about that, bud. No, no. Don't bring facts into this, please.

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Don't confuse me with the facts. I have my opinions. This is

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Bonhoeffer. I'm sorry now. I distracted you. No, no, no. Because I was going to bring in the

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Bonhoeffer because he uses Bonhoeffer to argue for this. And he's going to end up arguing, you know, we need economic relief and unemployment, all these things.

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You know, it's just he wants to throw money at everything. But the fact that he quotes

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Bonhoeffer to justify his racism, okay, because he's the racist.

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He's the one that sees color. We see human beings. There's one race, the human race.

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I see people. I see people that need Christ or people that need discipleship, right?

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I know that's true. Here's an interesting thing I noticed yesterday in my scripture reading that I really haven't noticed before.

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If you get to Acts 10, Cornelius, Peter, Acts 10, let me find the verse here.

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Acts 10, 24, on the following day, he entered Caesarea. Now, Cornelius was waiting for them and had called together his relatives and close friends.

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When Peter entered, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet and worshiped him.

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Cornelius falls at his feet and worships Peter. But Peter raised him up saying, stand up,

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I too am just a man. And then if you skip down a few verses, he says, and he said to them,

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Peter said to them, you yourselves know how unlawful it is for a man who is a Jew to associate with a foreigner or to visit him.

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Yet God has shown me through the vision of the animals coming down and God saying kill, eat.

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Yet God has shown me that I should not call any man unholy or unclean. I mean, what you've tacitly got right there is

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Peter, a Jew, a faithful Jew, in the home of a

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Gentile and not only a Gentile, but a Roman who happened to be a fear, a

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God fearer. But, but Peter there recognizes I'm just a man like you, but they are worlds apart.

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Ethnically, politically, socially, they're worlds apart, but I am a man just like you. And Peter identifies the issue as I should not call any man unholy or unclean.

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The issue is, are we in Christ or are we not in Christ? This is the distinction. Yeah. And, and if you're not in Christ, you need the gospel.

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And that's when it needs to hear that you need to share the gospel with. And if they know Christ, Matthew 28, 19 and 20, you teach them all things

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Christ has taught you. So I see the world as two groups of people, those that need the gospel, those that need discipleship.

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That's it. That's, that's how I see the, if you want to say races of people. Again, though, in this article, but it's what sometimes people say where they accidentally say the truth.

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Because he ends up saying, quote, as a country, we are blessed with the world's greatest GDP and incredible national resources, unquote.

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Who gave us those? Let's remember this folks. Under the Barack Obama administration that Biden was the vice president of, we were told we had to accept a new normal.

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We had to accept that, you know, high unemployment. We had to accept lower wages.

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This was supposed to be the new normal we were to accept. He's now admitting that, yes, we have the highest

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GPA and incredible natural resources. Those are his words. Why do we have that?

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Because of Donald Trump cutting regulation. It's the government that's in the way of our economy.

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And all Trump has done, look, it should tell people how bad our government wants us to be poor.

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They say they're fighting for the poor, but they want us to be poor and they want them to be rich. How do we know this? Because all

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Trump did was get rid of regulation. Yes, he gave a tax cut. He did a tax cut, just like Bush did a tax cut.

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And we saw a bump from that, but we didn't see anything near what we've seen in the economy.

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We saw George Reagan gave a tax cut, a very big one, and we saw a big bump from that.

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But we also saw lots of spending that limited that. We see a lot more of an economy now.

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Before COVID, we were at the peak of an economy. Why? Because Trump removed regulation.

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And to have this guy quote Bonhoeffer, for those who don't know who Bonhoeffer is,

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Bonhoeffer stood up to the Nazis, to the fascists on Christian values.

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He stood up against everything Biden is for. That is why the audacity of him to mention and quote

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Bonhoeffer to support him. First, he's quoting God. Then he quotes Bonhoeffer. Then he's going to say that building economy is expressed in Isaiah 65.

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I was like, what? You have to sit here because if you read

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Isaiah 65, it talks about a rebellious people. I think, again, maybe he didn't do his homework well enough.

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He should have given the verse because if you read the beginning of Isaiah 65, it's talking about Biden's party.

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But here's the thing. He's arguing for this. He's going to say that his faith is what leads him to all of this.

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His faith is leading him to kill millions of children in the womb.

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Really? The Catholic Church does not support the stance that his party stands on.

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He ends up trying to argue that the Old and New Testament taught that we should welcome strangers. And therefore, he's arguing for illegal immigration.

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No one has an issue with legal immigration. Nobody. It's illegal immigration.

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So here's a verse Biden doesn't refer to, Romans 13, obeying the law.

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No, no, no, no. We can't have that, bud. We can't do that. We just want to say you have to love your neighbor.

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Well, you also have to obey the law. So he wants to co -sponsor legislation with a refugee bill.

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We already allow refugees in. So again, everything he's offering is stuff we already have.

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There's like nothing new. That's the thing that's puzzling. So there's some other things.

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We're only like almost an hour in, bud. So I think we're going to go long today. Oh, all right.

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Well, I'm here. Because we got a lot more we want to go over with this, but I wanted to go through this.

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So you realize this is I agree with Biden. We do have a lot at stake. The problem is Joe Biden and his party is on the wrong side of history.

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And to use God and his word, Joe Biden and his party are on the wrong side of God and his word.

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Abraham Lincoln, who said it's not a question of whether, you know, we're on whether God's on our side, but whether we're on his.

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Joe Biden, you're not on God's side. And to try to write an article to evangelical Christians asking for their vote while you twist the scriptures is that's audacity.

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And but it's having it's having a play because you send me an article about a pastor quit his.

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I love how they say he quit his conservative church. I don't know anything about his church. I do know he went to Fuller.

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So that causes me question right there because that's a liberal seminary. But, you know, they you know, he left his church over Trump and now he's fighting for Biden.

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We see Joe John Piper, who's come out and said, you know, Christians shouldn't vote for for Biden. There have been a big push for evangelicals or Christians voting for Biden.

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I'm seeing this. Now, it's interesting. Biden is writing to the Christian Post where this pastor is in the

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L .A. Times. Right. So they want that piece. But but have you have you seen the articles, all the articles on gays for Trump?

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No. Have you seen all the articles and highlights of the blacks for Trump?

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Oh, no, no, no. I see you don't get to see this. They're actually struggling to get a voice out there.

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The blacks for Trump are being told they're not black. Well, in that circumstance, black lives matter.

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But black voices don't. I mean, maybe that's it. I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, maybe that's it.

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Only certain black voices count. So you're seeing where Christians are being preyed upon by the world.

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Remember, remember what we read in Ephesians four. OK, you have to remember this. I'm sorry,

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Ephesians two. Ephesians two. Yeah. These are the children that are by nature children of wrath.

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Who do they follow? The prince of the power of this era, the spirit that is now working in what? The sons of disobedience.

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That is the Democrat Party. That is who the Democrat Party is. They stand for calling people not human so they can kill them, not enslave them, kill them.

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I'm sorry, but any Democrat that argues against racism because of slavery and support abortion are hypocrites.

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Plain and simple. The argument for slavery is the same they make for abortion.

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I don't have the source for this. I did write the transcript out.

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And it was from MacArthur. And he's been very vocal about these things.

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And it was an interview that he has had subsequent to the lawsuits that the church has been going through trying to fight the onerous activities of the governor in the state of California.

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But it was with regards to the Trump phone call that MacArthur got. And this is what he had been asked about on this particular show.

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But here's what MacArthur said. It's just a brief little paragraph. MacArthur, regarding his

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Trump phone call, says, We talked a little bit about why, certainly from a biblical standpoint,

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Christians could not vote Democratic. Because there's no way that a Christian can affirm the slaughter of babies, homosexual activity, homosexual marriage, or any kind of gross immorality.

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No way we could stand behind a candidate who is affirming transgender behavior, which is really the reprobate mind of Romans 1.

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These things aren't even political for us. These things are biblical. And I thought that was really astute, particularly in light of the question that Biden apparently got regarding the 8 -year -old boy that wanted to be transgender.

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Think about the implications of this for the family, for parents. And this certainly destroys the foundation of the country, the family.

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Biden thinks an 8 -year -old understands enough to know the rest of his life, his gender, knows that he doesn't want to have children ever.

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Because once you do these sex changes, it pretty much ends that chance.

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But he understands all that. This 8 -year -old child understands that. And yet he's not old enough to drink because, well, you've got to be 21 for that because you can't be trusted to drink alcohol.

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You can't smoke cigarettes until you're 18 because you can't be trusted for that. You can't be trusted to vote, although now they want to drop that to 16.

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But you can know, you understand enough. You haven't even gotten through puberty, but you understand enough to know what gender you were supposed to be.

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You don't even know how to drive yet. Yeah, you can't be trusted to drive until you're 16 or 17.

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Let's see the impact that this is having. But you sent this over to me. This was mind -blowing. This is two minutes.

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And I want to play this video that you sent. And I want us to remember, this is where I said, remember what we said.

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Who is the spirit of this world? Where these things are. I want to play this clip that we have from Billy Graham's granddaughter.

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So here it is. And then we'll deal with this after. Okay, I got to stop it.

01:00:28

I just can't help myself. So, you know, women. She's only targeting women.

01:00:33

Why? What's the issue with the women? Abortion. Abortion. The killing of human beings.

01:00:38

Saying that they're not human. So you can kill them at the offering of your convenience, because it might affect your life.

01:00:46

Now, if you watch the video, I'll put the video in the show notes. But what do you see? You see them putting clips of him meeting with, you know, all the negative things.

01:00:56

They have one thing where he's, it makes him look like he's, you know, making fun of people.

01:01:02

You have the clips of him meeting women. You're going to have a clip with him with Jeffrey Epstein. Tying him to Jeffrey Epstein.

01:01:08

However, what, what do we end up learning about Jeffrey Epstein? I'm going to, it's like, it's amazing. Cause I won't put this in. It was, it was bill

01:01:15

Clinton that was flying around the world and doing things with bit with Epstein. Trump was working with Epstein.

01:01:23

And when he found out about some of the nonsense Epstein does, he cut off relations with them. So just remember it was the

01:01:29

Democrat party that was supporting Epstein working with Epstein. It was Trump who was like, no, you know what?

01:01:34

This is you and you have all these girls around these young girls, right? I'm not being part of you. He separated from Epstein just for the record.

01:01:41

Okay. So she's saying women, because this is about abortion. Let's keep going.

01:01:48

Spirit that tug on your heart. I believe that that's the Holy spirit. Tugging on your heart.

01:01:58

I don't think Billy even would have believed that even, even in his more later years of dementia.

01:02:06

She needs a copy of this book. God whisper by Jim Osmond. Yeah. Hugging on your heart.

01:02:13

That's the spirit. That's the spirit. What is that spirit? We've already dealt with this, that spirit according to feed

01:02:19

Ephesians two, that's the spirit that's now working in the sons of disobedience. That's what she is attributing the works of the devil to the

01:02:28

Holy spirit. That's blasphemy. Yep. I don't care if your father was this great evangelist grandfather.

01:02:36

And you need to take a breath, dude. Yeah. Grandfather. That doesn't mean she's a Christian. No, you don't like to, to attribute the works of Satan to the

01:02:48

Holy spirit is blasphemy. Blasphemy. Yeah. And that's what she's doing all because Christian women, you got to vote for Biden.

01:02:58

All right. Let me, let me, let me try to get through it. I'll try. My president doesn't have to be a

01:03:05

Christian, but Donald Trump has been lifted up as a man of faith. Where did we lose our recognition of what

01:03:13

Jesus looks like? Our allegiance first is to Jesus and to scripture and to the

01:03:21

Holy spirit. Okay. If that's the case, bud, it's just to God and scripture and the

01:03:28

Holy spirit with a whole bunch of people that claim they were Christians that weren't on the Democrat side as well.

01:03:34

I mean, I don't know when the last time we had an actual evangelical president, it's certainly not

01:03:40

Trump. It was certainly Obama, Jimmy Carter. That might be, but I don't know that he was saved, you know, but to say that scripture is supposed to be our ultimate authority.

01:03:53

Well, scripture says she's speaking to women. Why for the abortion issue? Scripture speaks clearly against that for the homosexual issue that Biden's pushing.

01:04:03

We're going to get to that in a minute to push that issue. No, again, scripture is very much against that.

01:04:09

So if you want to put scripture first, not saying is the guy a Christian, because remember, she's saying, you know, it's not that he's a

01:04:17

Christian. We just read the article. What was Biden arguing? Yeah. He's a Christian.

01:04:23

Yeah. Right. Okay. Maybe it's me. They're both arguing.

01:04:29

They're a Christian. I don't believe either of them are, but if you're going to argue for scripture, then you have no choice.

01:04:35

You cannot vote for Biden. If you're going to look at scripture, anything you want to say on that before we try playing the last 40 seconds, you just need to take a breath.

01:04:48

You're getting all worked up. I said in the beginning, this was going to happen. We believe in sovereignty. This is going to work out.

01:04:54

Oh, it is. The thing that gets me is it's not, it's not that these, that they're going to vote for Biden.

01:05:01

That upsets me. What upsets me is the, the twisting of God's word to justify the very things that God's against.

01:05:07

No, exactly. And presumably, uh, Billy Graham's granddaughter, I guess, is an evangelical.

01:05:13

I presume that's how she would position herself. She might position herself as that. Yeah. No, I understand that.

01:05:20

Uh, and, and yet this is the narrative that you're getting. And so we can, we can say this comes from scripture when actually it doesn't.

01:05:28

And this is a problem of discernment. This is a problem of ignorance of scripture, a complete disregarded doctrine.

01:05:37

Christians don't understand. They're not, they're not discerning. What are you doing?

01:05:43

Oh, I'm going to, I'm going to swear. I've had enough of her. I want to, I want to play the other, the other clip that we had, because, you know,

01:05:51

I don't, I just, she, cause now the last 45 seconds is her, her appeal to vote for, uh, you know, to, to vote for, um,

01:06:00

Biden, the tug of your heart. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's basically what she's going to argue for now is we have to have this tug on our heart.

01:06:08

I guess you, you want me to play that part? No, but yeah,

01:06:14

I mean, that's basically what she ends up arguing for is we, we need to have, uh, you know, this, this tug on our heart, this, you know, the fact that there's, uh, you know, the spirit inside us that we have to have to get to.

01:06:32

I mean, that's, that's what she, she's, my name is Jerusha D Ford. Okay, hold on. Let me pause it and get back to that spot.

01:06:40

So, cause, cause for a Republican is not as important as listening to that spirit inside of us.

01:06:50

It's okay to go against what you've always done. And it's not too late. You don't have to give an account or a reason for the decision that we make in that news to anybody, but ourselves into the

01:07:03

Lord. Our character is what we do when nobody is watching.

01:07:12

Okay. So, so that is, you know, we got to follow that spirit, the spirit of this age, you know, that that's what she wants us to follow.

01:07:23

Um, you, you go ahead. No, I was just going to say that that is the prevalent view of evangelical

01:07:30

Christianity. It's emotionalism. Um, you know, it's, it's mysticism and highly subjective.

01:07:38

Whereas you and I both know that if you're going to reference scripture, what you are referencing is the propositional revealed truth, concrete absolutes that God has given to us.

01:07:51

It is not mystical. It is not, uh, arbitrary. It is not subjective. It's, you know, when

01:07:57

Jude says contend for the faith, he's talking about a faith of propositional truth revealed to us by a sovereign and Holy God who has our interest in obedience for our own good at heart.

01:08:10

Um, but the prevalence of this mysticism and emotionalism, uh, that kind of thing will appeal to a lot of people in the pews who don't have biblical insight to discern just how wicked that is.

01:08:24

No, uh, we've, we've said that the, the Catholics have been under attack ever since justice

01:08:30

Barrett was nominated. Um, Democrats were losing that vote. They got to get it back.

01:08:36

Right? So this next clip that you sent me was one minute long. Uh, it's, you're going to see those who watched the video again,

01:08:44

I'll be in the show notes, but if you're watching on Patrion, you'll see it. Um, you'll see that the, the, this, this is going to show every president, every president.

01:08:54

So remember the, the president Obama who supported Islam somehow, you know, he's up there and same with the bushes, uh,

01:09:03

Clinton. I mean, they're, they're all good, but here's the thing. When you look at this as if you're a Catholic and you're going to look at this, which of these two men,

01:09:12

Trump and Biden are the ones that, that is more in line with Catholic doctrine. Well, it's not

01:09:18

Biden. He's for homosexuality. He's for abortion. He's for everything that, that the church is against.

01:09:25

How could Catholics vote for him? And so let's, let's listen to how they are going to argue for this.

01:09:33

As Catholics, we understand that no matter who's president, our faith is going to lead us to disagree with them on certain issues.

01:09:40

Past presidents have treated us with respect, but this guy is something else. Donald Trump and the people around him have insulted our bishops.

01:09:47

Even the holy father. Disgraceful. The Pope needs to seek Donald Trump's forgiveness.

01:09:53

Maybe that's why a majority of Catholics are voting against him this election. Or maybe it's because Donald Trump hasn't fought for workers, the middle class or the poor, but for his own interests.

01:10:04

Or maybe it's just because we know guys like Donald Trump who talk big. We're going to have a healthcare plan.

01:10:11

That's going to be second to none. It's going to be great. But act small.

01:10:17

There are many reasons why most Catholics oppose Donald Trump's reelection. All of them work in my book.

01:10:24

Not our vote, buddy. Not our faith. Not our faith is responsible for the content.

01:10:30

Okay. So, so there you go with, with that one. And what do you have there? You have them arguing, okay,

01:10:36

Trump didn't do anything. Again, he didn't do anything. Yet they show the cages that, you know, of the immigrants and who put those up.

01:10:44

Oh, oh, that was Obama and Biden. Hmm.

01:10:50

So, all right. I mean, it's, again, it's, it's amazing because it was, it was

01:10:57

Trump. I'm sorry. It was Obama that had problems with the previous Pope. You know, you know, this current

01:11:04

Pope, there's many Catholics who are saying he's not Catholic. I mean, they have issues with him because he's going against, you know, 2000 or a thousand years of Catholic teaching.

01:11:15

So this is, this is a big push. They're pushing to get Christians. They want to undermine the, the

01:11:22

Christian vote to vote for Democrat, to vote for everything against what they have. And again, notice they try to use

01:11:30

God, to undermine what God stands for. That's what is so infuriating with this.

01:11:37

And the biggest thing, but is an article. I think you saw it as well. I shared it on Facebook from discern is this article that Biden pledges to enact a pro

01:11:47

LGBT and equality act in the first hundred days of his presidency.

01:11:54

Folks, he's made it really clear what he stands for. Everything God is against.

01:12:01

Everything God is against is what, what Biden wants and the things he says he's going to do well for the country.

01:12:08

Those are things Trump's already done. So what can, what is he going to do?

01:12:13

How is he going to implement what Trump implemented better than Trump? Think about that.

01:12:19

How can he implement what someone else already implemented better than the person who implemented it?

01:12:26

If you have a choice, do you stick with the guy that actually implemented it rather than the guy who just says he's going to implement it?

01:12:36

You know, action speak louder than words. Trump has the actions. Biden has lots of words.

01:12:42

They're uncoherent, but at least whoever wrote the article, they were, yeah, they were coherent in the article.

01:12:49

So kudos to whoever did that. I disagree with them all, but yeah. So, so, but we haven't even taken a break.

01:13:00

We've been on a, on a, on a whirlwind here. It's, it's all your fault. Just, just for the record.

01:13:06

It's, I asked people to pray for you before this started. I don't know if you saw that, but no, no, but I needed it.

01:13:13

I mean, what infuriates me is this dishonors Christ. Yeah.

01:13:19

Okay. That's, that is what infuriates me. All right.

01:13:24

So, so I want to take, I want to take a break. Uh, and, and, you know, before we get into the next topic, then after this break, what

01:13:34

I want to do is I want to talk to you about an article that I sent this to bud.

01:13:39

And he, I think he was like, what? But another article, which is a radical proposal for dealing with Trump supporters after Biden wins, that'll come right after this short break.

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I have been playing with Logos now, Logos 9 for a couple of weeks. I know it just, someone's going, but it just came out this week.

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I know, I know. I had it about three weeks ago. I've been playing with it and using it to, to write a review and whatnot.

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It's an, it is, especially for pastors, but they've really upped their sermon builder. So you can actually lay out, you know,

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I have my sermons kind of laid out for, until the end of the year. And as I'm going through the book of Mark, and so now

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01:17:33

You're actually studying in preparation for a sermon. That's a novel approach in a lot of evangelicalism.

01:17:40

I'm just telling you. Well, hence the reason for this, this podcast episode we've had to do with a lot of people that don't do that and are in churches where they don't do that.

01:17:48

And that's why they don't know their Bible. Yeah. At the master church of Bucks County, they're going to know the Bible.

01:17:56

So just saying, because we got some good preaching there, in my opinion. So, so let's deal with this, this thing, you know, first, and I know we've gone long, but we'll, we'll cut this a little shorter and not go through all of it.

01:18:11

Folks, I'll put the article here for you to, to read, but this is called a radical proposal for dealing with Trump supporters after Biden wins.

01:18:18

And you go, well, this is just from some, you know, no name guy. It's, you know, some guy rush

01:18:23

Russ Joseph's. And you go, well, what's the big deal? Well, he does have 17 ,000 followers.

01:18:30

So do you have that? Maybe not. So he actually, he obviously has some platform where there's a lot of people that are, that are following his, his blog here.

01:18:40

And so he's writing an article. He obviously is a leftist. He, but he believes that he is, that the

01:18:46

Biden is going to win. So clearly he's counting on fraud because that is the only way

01:18:52

Biden wins. If you just look at the rallies, I mean, Trump has Trump had a rally. It was funny. We didn't have time to put this one up, but, but Laura Ingram had a video where she was showing

01:19:03

Biden. Trump did a rally and, and the governor limited him to 250 people.

01:19:10

And there were like tens of thousands of people, like are thousands of people that were outside that couldn't come in.

01:19:15

So, you know, Biden has a rally and there's like 30 people in, in like their circles with like, there were like 35, 36 circles with a chair in it, six of the seats missing.

01:19:26

So they couldn't even fill, they only had 36. They couldn't even fill the seats there, you know, and he's got a stage set up to speak to them.

01:19:34

You know, but this guy's obviously counting on a Biden win. So he's either delusional or counting on, on fraud.

01:19:43

So what, what bugs me is he calls this a radical proposal. His proposal is that Biden supporters should try to get along with Trump supporters.

01:19:54

Now let that sink in. He thinks that's radical. He thinks this is a radical way of dealing with things.

01:20:02

What does that tell you about the left's real view? If he thinks that's radical, what is the left's view of dealing with Trump supporters that Biden wins?

01:20:11

Well, it must not be to get along with them. Well, you know, tactically he only recommends that after a

01:20:19

Biden win. We don't need to do it now. We need to do it then is what he's proposing. Well, that's true because we have plenty of organizations.

01:20:27

I think the count now is up to 60 organizations that have put out game plans to create chaos if Trump wins.

01:20:34

Yeah. So obviously the Biden supporters don't plan to get along with Trump supporters if they lose only if they win.

01:20:45

All right. So let's kind of work through this article quickly. Again, the show notes will have it.

01:20:52

He talks about taking an example of history, world war one, world war two in world war one.

01:20:57

He, and just folks, if you do read the article, there is foul language there. He, he basically says the allies won in Germany, but, but left them alone, left them isolated.

01:21:08

And all that did was raise up a hatred. And, and that gave us world war two where in world war two, he says, see, we, we, we worked with Japan and Germany to rebuild them.

01:21:21

So he says, quote, we need to adopt a strategy with the Trumpers. We need to try to find common ground to offer support, not disdain.

01:21:30

We should even offer to help develop the red States, which for decades have been underperforming and leeches off the blue ones.

01:21:40

Unquote, leeching off the blue ones. I, you know, this is like, is this guy paying any attention?

01:21:46

Like the, it is the blue States that are trying to get the red States to pay for their mismanagement.

01:21:52

It's the blue States that are in going by California. You have everyone moving out.

01:21:57

Why they can't afford to live there because of the mismanagement, New York, New Jersey, you have all these blue States, solid blue States for many decades.

01:22:06

And they're the ones that are saying that they're going to go bankrupt. If the red States don't help fund them, they're doing this under the guise of COVID.

01:22:15

And they're saying, well, they had more, you know, they had more cases. Of course, now that you have

01:22:21

Florida having a lot of cases there that, you know, remember for, for, for this guy, Russ go and listen to New York's governor,

01:22:29

Andrew Cuomo, and his criticism against Florida's governor for not being willing to support

01:22:34

New York, that somehow that was wrong because they were New York was, was in need of money and going to go bankrupt.

01:22:42

And Florida had to pay. It's the red States that are producing, not the blue States. The blue States have failed policies.

01:22:49

That's what gave us so many of these COVID deaths was, was their policies of sending people back into nursing homes that have

01:22:56

COVID. They they've they're just hand out money. Oh, hand over fist to try to get votes.

01:23:02

And then they expect the red States to pay for it. And yet he, he says that they're the ones underperforming in leeches.

01:23:09

How are they? The leeches is it's the red States that don't have as many of a problem with the COVID. They didn't do the shutdown.

01:23:16

Let's just look at some hard facts. Unemployment rate in blue States, average six and a half percent.

01:23:24

Average unemployment rate in red States, 11 and a half percent. Those are real numbers.

01:23:30

Those are real numbers, folks. The economy is doing much better in the red States. Overall, you compare all the red versus blue States.

01:23:39

What do you see? You see the blue States, the ones that are underperforming. And as far as leeching off of, well, when the blue States are demanding that the red

01:23:47

States have to pay money for their failed policies, otherwise they're going to go bankrupt.

01:23:52

But I could be wrong, but isn't, isn't that kind of the definition of leeching?

01:23:58

Yes. It's also kind of the definition of redistribution. Ah, is that what this is?

01:24:05

Isn't that what Barack Obama, you know, the guy that was the

01:24:11

Biden was the running mate on Biden. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. So wasn't it, wasn't it

01:24:16

Obama that said we needed to redistribute the wealth. I think so. I think so.

01:24:22

There must be an agenda at work. I guess what is the nerve of those red States thinking that because they actually work for something and earn something that they should be able to keep that something.

01:24:33

Um, and I mean for the blue States that feel that everyone needs to be stealing from them. I mean, we have, we have the justifying of stealing left and right.

01:24:42

I mean, look at the black lives matter there. They're you know, Oh, some, some guy chases, you know, just chasing a police officer with a knife.

01:24:50

And therefore, you know, the response is to go into Walmart, break into Walmart and steal everything.

01:24:57

Um, that's not called a protest folks. That's called a riot and it needs to get stopped.

01:25:04

But they were justified and say, no, that's reparations. Yeah. Oh, it's stealing. It's stealing.

01:25:13

I know you had some, you want to say on that, on that point. No, I agree with you.

01:25:19

It's just, it's absurd. It's, it's a Romans. I mean, I read this guy's article, the first reading

01:25:25

I'm like, uh, debase mind this guy, just facts don't matter this.

01:25:30

I can't even. He seems incapable of even looking at history, which he, he starts out citing, uh, let's use history as a guide.

01:25:39

Are you kidding? And this is how you're using it. You can't even think rationally and logically and, uh, employ facts as the facts reveal.

01:25:51

Uh, so I was thinking, you know, the base mind, uh, and when you get to that red state and blue, and I'm like, you're kidding.

01:25:59

This, this guy who I think is primarily known for his, uh, musical talent with his own band,

01:26:06

I guess called magic animal or something. Yeah. Recommend. Yeah. That is, he's a, he's a writer, musician and band strategist in New York and Asia.

01:26:16

But you know, this is what frustrates me is there's one line of this whole article that, uh, you know, they've, they've have a way of,

01:26:25

I guess, highlighting it in Twitter. And there's only one line that's highlighted as a top highlight. It says this quote, for the sake of our country, we have to do what is quote, good

01:26:37

Christians unquote are unable to do for themselves. Turn the other cheek unquote. So, so this, this is what he's saying.

01:26:45

Christians are unable to turn the other cheek, but we, for the sake of the country, we have to do what good

01:26:51

Christians are unable to do themselves. Turn the other cheek. Yeah. Um, who's who, which side of this party started the, not my president.

01:27:00

Was that, was that Republicans under Obama or was that, uh, rules under Trump?

01:27:06

No, no. I think it was the first, I think it was the first group. Yeah. I didn't, I just didn't get that.

01:27:13

Cause, cause I remember, I remember people saying Trump was not their president. There was a hashtag.

01:27:19

I don't remember people doing that under Obama. There were people that didn't believe he was legitimately born here, but they weren't saying he wasn't the president.

01:27:30

Who wasn't that said that the presidents were, you know, here's a simple question. Have the Democrats accepted any

01:27:36

Republican since George W. Bush as being legitimate? No. They said that George W.

01:27:42

Bush won by, by cheating by the way, the Supreme court giving it to him. And then he didn't have the popular vote trumpets by Russia, even though we now know that Russia, you know, was influencing both sides and the tie that with, you know,

01:27:58

Russia, you know, supposedly that came out. So the Obama administration can spy on them was actually nothing.

01:28:04

There was nothing there. They made it up. So the three -year investigation and an impeachment all based on false charges, things that Biden actually did.

01:28:14

I mean, if the people really want to do that, but we ended up seeing is what we see is the left is, is having game plans to cause riots, just chaos, destruction, and to stop the economy.

01:28:28

If Trump wins, that does not sound like turning the other cheek. Remember, this is a liberal speaking to his liberal base saying, this is a radical idea for the sake of the country.

01:28:41

He's recommending that they turn the other cheek. What does that tell you that his side is looking to do?

01:28:48

They're not turning. They're not turning the other cheek. You did not see riots. When Obama became president, you didn't see that there weren't

01:28:58

Christians doing that. So Christians are able to turn the other cheek. See, this is the thing that infuriates me is the hypocrisy here that they use

01:29:06

Christianity and attack Christianity for, for the sake of arguing for the very things that are against Christian.

01:29:13

They're there. They're projecting their behavior on Christians, but this is again, a game plan that they have is to cause destruction in this country.

01:29:23

If they don't get their way, they're like a bunch of spoiled children. If, if Trump has the nerve to follow the law and do it as his responsibility and put justice

01:29:32

Barrett on the court, they're going to fight that by stacking the court.

01:29:39

You know, but I don't know if you saw my Facebook post. I think what Trump should do now that all Democrats are arguing, well, the population has grown and we, we need to add more justices to court.

01:29:49

That was Pelosi who said that, but all the Democrats, including Biden won't answer the question, but they're all saying, you know, but by his not answer, it seems like an answer, but Democrats are coming out saying they need to add more justices.

01:30:01

I think Trump should come out and just agree with the Democrats and, and he should push that.

01:30:07

He's going to add five more justices right now. Yeah. I mean, how funny would that be?

01:30:13

The left would go berserk saying he's stacking the court. That's so wrong. Yeah. He's just agreeing with you.

01:30:19

Yeah. Yeah. So even if he's a lame duck, he is still president. Yeah.

01:30:25

He's still president. you know, I mean, what would they do if he did that? Yeah. They would freak out, but all he's doing is exactly what they say they want to do.

01:30:35

Right. So, I mean, this is the thing we ended up seeing with this is there.

01:30:42

The left has no intention of conceding that they lost.

01:30:49

If they lose their thing is like spoiled children. Who don't get their way.

01:30:55

They're upset. They're going to pick up their toys and go home. If they don't get their way and, and to have the nerve to say that good

01:31:02

Christians are unable to do this. It's the Democrat party. That's unable to do this.

01:31:08

Yeah. No desire to turn the other cheek. No, I just, you know, I read that and I read the whole thing and I'm thinking, you know, this really doesn't even sound postmodern.

01:31:17

This, this actually sounds very modern in these, in the sort of secularist sense, the humanist sense.

01:31:26

And that would be two points. The idolatry of state. We actually don't need

01:31:32

God. We'll cite God when it fits our agenda, which is what Biden has done in his article.

01:31:38

That's what this guy slightly does. But the state really is going to be the solution to all our problems.

01:31:45

And here's how we need to act under a Biden administration and show this presumed grace.

01:31:51

But the other thing is that it's this sense of a savior complex that this guy's writing from that, that, that we can save, you know, the

01:32:00

Democrats can do it. We can actually show, turn the other cheek. We can show these presumed virtues that they can't, because what you've alluded to earlier, sons of disobedience, you don't have the ability to do this.

01:32:16

This, this is for those in Christ. Well, that's the underlying theme of this whole thing.

01:32:22

Cause he's going to argue, we have to do this for love of country, love of humanity, love of planet. Well, if you loved humanity, you wouldn't be supporting the murdering of millions of slaughtering in the world.

01:32:33

This is not love of humanity. It is the Christians who love humanity. It's the Christians who actually are looking to take care of the planet.

01:32:41

Okay. And who actually are doing, doing what's best for the country. These, these leftists want to destroy everything.

01:32:47

So he says, so after the election, assuming there's still a country left to live in, what we, what he says, assuming there's a country left to live in.

01:32:54

And if Putin hasn't stolen it again, so, so right there with the narrative, like Putin didn't steal it because all those people that were out there every day saying there's tons of evidence under oath said there was nothing, nothing.

01:33:07

And that's the, so who, who did get paid by Putin's? Oh, it was Biden. Biden.

01:33:14

Ah, Biden was paid by the Chinese, by the Russians, you know? Oh, okay.

01:33:21

So, so, and he's saying, but it's interesting saying we still have a country left. What does that mean? That means like after all the writing, because that's the leftist doing it.

01:33:30

I know they're trying to blame Trump for it, but that's the leftist doing it. He goes, I want, I want you to remember everything

01:33:36

I'm saying here. And I hope you'll join me and the rest of the Democrats independence and never Trumpers as we forgive.

01:33:43

Orge a relationship with Trump supporters. How about you do that now?

01:33:49

Where have you been for four years? You see, he says he could turn that we have to turn the other cheek. Here's the hypocrisy.

01:33:55

They never did that. Four years. Trump has been fighting, not just the

01:34:01

Democrats, but the media, but the leftists everywhere. They've never accepted anything.

01:34:06

He's everything he does is wrong. You know, he, if he closes the country to, because of this virus, he's a racist xenophobe, but then he didn't do it fast enough.

01:34:17

Right? There's, there's no scenario where the people that are buying into this nonsense from Biden ever see

01:34:24

Trump doing anything. Right? If Trump comes out today and says, he's going to stack the courts, you're going to see them turn away from second, of course, that's a bad thing.

01:34:32

How could he even think of doing such a thing? That's, that's what they're going to argue. And, and this is what we end up seeing with, with them.

01:34:40

There is a, there's never a case where they're going to accept anything that he does.

01:34:46

So, so this article ends by saying, quote, because the cold hard truth is that despite all of America's many accomplishments, it was never truly great.

01:34:58

There was always a dark side to all of the light. Now we have an opportunity to try to stamp out that darkness once and for all unquote.

01:35:08

What was the darkness? I mean, is he talking to the darkness of racism that the Democrats are supporting because they're the party of racists.

01:35:15

Now they've always been, they supported racism when they supported slavery, they supported racism when they were the party of the

01:35:22

KKK, they were supported racism when they were fighting against blacks ability to vote. They were raised, they were fighting for racism when they were fighting against the civil rights.

01:35:30

But then once the civil rights bill was done and they saw that they can create welfare and keep a bunch of blacks in, you know, uneducated, keep them poor, keep them voting

01:35:42

Democrat. Suddenly they were for the blacks, but still racist. That's the party of the

01:35:48

Democrats. If you're going to argue, you're going to stamp out the darkness. What's the darkness calling people subhuman. Well, that was the

01:35:55

Democrat party under slavery. And it's a Democrat party now under abortion. They still categorize a group, large group of population of human beings as nonhumans so that they can control them, either keeping them enslaved or killing them.

01:36:11

I'm sorry, but America was great in many things, but we still live in a sinful world where the

01:36:18

Prince of the power of this air, that print that that spirit of this world, you know, that the one that, you know, uh,

01:36:25

Graham's granddaughter was arguing for that spirit. That's the spirit of this world. That spirit is the one that is roaming around this world.

01:36:35

That spirit is the one that it keeps every country from being as great as it could be. The only time we're going to have a great country, if you believe in a millennium would be in a millennium where Christ is ruling, but even then there's going to be sinners even there.

01:36:52

So, but the reality is there is no country that's going to be great, but what is the greatness that this guy would argue for?

01:36:58

It seemed he's from the left greatness to allow homosexuality, to reign, to, to put an end to Christianity.

01:37:05

In other words, it's intolerance for everything that he doesn't agree to. That's what, you know, he said earlier in the article, which is just unbelievable.

01:37:16

The alternative that he's promoting, which is also the solution and which has been touted by everyone from Jesus to Buddha, to the

01:37:27

Beatles, to Harry Potter is love. Um, yeah, this is the problem.

01:37:34

We don't understand. He doesn't what love really is.

01:37:40

And to put Jesus in the category with those guys, uh, just reflects you are just illiterate, biblically faithful.

01:37:50

He's not claiming to be a Christian either, by the way. So, well, let's end with this bud, because he does talk about love and this is the problem.

01:37:58

He said, he ends up saying that you could boil it down to, he says, uh, most decisions in life boil down to choosing between one of two things, love and fear.

01:38:09

Everything in Trump and his allies enables and supporters is 100 % fear based masquerading as rage, divisiveness and anger.

01:38:19

Now, the reality is when you look, Trump is the optimist. He's the one saying how, how great

01:38:25

America is. He's the one saying everything that's, that's going well. Biden's the one going, you should be at your home and frayed, afraid, afraid.

01:38:33

He, you know, you're not even dealing reality, but love. So Democrats are really the party of fear.

01:38:40

I don't, I'm not going to say that Trump is the party of love. Cause I don't think that would be the case, but I think he's, he's more a party of optimism, but here's the reality.

01:38:49

What we see in our culture is a wrong understanding. What love is. They believe in the false gospel of God is love.

01:38:57

Is God love? Yes. Scripture makes that clear. God is love, but how do you define love?

01:39:03

Love is not you got that. God spoils us. That's how they define love. That God should give me everything.

01:39:09

I want, I'm a spoiled brat and I want to get my way. And if he doesn't give me my way, he doesn't exist.

01:39:16

That is what the world system is teaching. Yeah. They're a bunch of spoiled children. And that is what we end up seeing.

01:39:25

And so what we have is a case where they say love is that God should spoil them.

01:39:33

That's not love. No parent who gives a child everything they want loves that child.

01:39:38

They're doing damage to that child. Love is to correct, to tell the truth.

01:39:44

And the most truthful thing we could tell anybody is, as we read out of Ephesians in the beginning, that naturally we are children of wrath, but God came to earth as a man died so that we can have the forgiveness of sin.

01:40:01

That we that receive Christ can have the right to be called a child of God.

01:40:08

That is the real gospel. It is not this thing that God is love. God is love. He is, but he's also wrath.

01:40:17

Psalm 711. God is a just judge and he is angry with the wicked every day.

01:40:26

And if you are not in Christ, then you are in the category of receiving his wrath.

01:40:32

The most loving thing we could do is tell you to repent, put your faith in Jesus Christ and have the forgiveness of sin.

01:40:41

Otherwise, the moment you die, you have eternal punishment to look forward to.

01:40:48

And we don't want that for anyone. That is the biblical gospel compared to the gospel of the left.

01:40:55

The gospel of the left is, God should give me everything I want because I'm so wonderful. Get over yourself.

01:41:03

You don't have a proper perspective of who God is and who you are. No. And even for evangelicals, the very call of Christ to come to him, deny yourself, take up your cross daily and follow me.

01:41:16

It is not about you. Correct. I mean, look, we're speaking about an infinitely holy, infinitely just God.

01:41:26

A God who has nothing to do with sin. In fact, the only way we know right from wrong, justice from injustice is from the character and nature of God.

01:41:36

All the talks and the protests on the street asking for justice. You don't know what justice is.

01:41:41

If you don't know the character of God and to sit here and demand justice, when you're pleading for, for what

01:41:47

God would say is injustice. You can't argue. God is who this is.

01:41:53

God. No, you have a wrong God. Yeah. And what we've seen throughout this show today,

01:41:58

I know we've gone longer. This is probably one of the longest shows you've ever, I've ever done, but, but it is something that we want you to see how scripture should inform everything that we're doing in life.

01:42:10

How are you going to go vote on, on Tuesday? It should be informed by scripture. This is where I do agree with, with Graham's granddaughter.

01:42:17

Scripture should be the thing that is our underlying principle for everything. The problem is scriptures against everything she said.

01:42:25

Yeah. She, she's going to commit blasphemy of the spirit by saying that she's going to contribute the works of the devil to God.

01:42:34

Blasphemy to, to sit here and support a party of death and destruction that stands up for everything.

01:42:41

God hates and say, this is love. People need to repent.

01:42:49

So maybe this wasn't the most enjoyable show, but next, next week we'll have a lot more fun because we'll have

01:42:55

Andrew Smith on a, a great pastor down in Florida and down in that sunny weather area like you bud.

01:43:02

And we're going to talk more about the masks because a lot of people are asking for it. And we, we had planned with Anthony to give a biblical response as well.

01:43:11

But Anthony provided so much of the scientific information that we, we were afraid of going too long.

01:43:17

So we wanted to split it up. So next week we're going to have an episode on masks. Now I will say we haven't heard, but I did put a plea out.

01:43:26

I am hoping to soon have the, the award winning podcaster from evokes of reason radio.

01:43:35

And that would be Chris Han holds who wrote an article on white fragility. And I'm hoping to have him on to discuss his article.

01:43:41

If you want to read the article ahead of time, go to slave for the king .com. And he wrote a book review on that book.

01:43:48

Check that out because this is a book that lots of people are looking to, to inform the church on how we're supposed to behave and respond.

01:43:56

And that is one you're going to want to, to read, to know what's being taught. And I need to thank you,

01:44:01

Andrew, because this was so exciting for, it was like the highlight of my week. Chris finally followed me on Facebook and it's because of my association with you.

01:44:11

And while I hesitated about that, I was turned out to be grateful for it. So that would be fun.

01:44:18

That would be great. Did you hear that? I finally made it on to voice a reason. Did you know? Yeah, we were at the, with your, at the conference.

01:44:25

Oh yeah. The cruciform conference. Chris did an interview with me just cause he needed a fourth person.

01:44:31

He had like the better guys, but he needs someone else to throw in as a fourth. So I was the token guy, but I'm just going to say,

01:44:38

I'm just going to say if you go listen to voice a reason radio from the cruciform conference and just listen to the last like 10 seconds,

01:44:46

I'm convinced he says he didn't think about it beforehand, but the last 10 seconds, I think he interviewed me just for that one line at the end of the interview.

01:44:54

I'm just saying you guys go listen and see whether you think it was, he was setting me up for the last 10 seconds.

01:45:01

I think he was voice a reason radio and go check it out. And with that bud,

01:45:07

I would have to say, this is a wrap. This podcast is part of the striving for eternity ministry.