October 10, 2022 Show with Doug Mastriano on “A Christian’s Only Choice When Voting for Governor of Pennsylvania” PLUS Dr. Joe Morecraft on “If God’s In Control, Why Should We Vote?”

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Well today we have an extremely Important guest.

And what adds to the enormous importance of me interviewing this guest today is

because of the darkness of our world today the rampant

evil that seems to be getting more and more grotesque as every

day passes and It seems to accelerate in

plunging to the depths of evil that we are frighteningly heading toward

a Breathtaking speed.

I have today as my guest Doug Mastriano Who is Republican candidate for

governor in the state of Pennsylvania?

This is an extremely important gubernatorial race.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio Doug Mastriano.

Amen.

As.

Yes,

absolutely.

And the first can you give us any updates on the closeness of your gubernatorial race against

the leftist Josh Shapiro here in Pennsylvania.

So it's a tight race, you

know, our own internal numbers are looking good.

But you know, that's none of it.

And so, you know God has blessed our state in our nation with the people having the

opportunity to select their leaders and on 8th,

November.

Amen, and as you probably know yourself many average citizens Lack

an understanding of the specific roles duties and spheres of authority that the various offices within government

Possess.

So let me ask you some questions over the most pressing issues That burden the hearts

and minds of Pennsylvania Christians and how you if you become this state's governor God

-willing intend to make changes for the improvement of our safety prosperity and further

preserve liberties and benefits that our citizens already enjoy.

Christians rightfully so will immediately Wonder how the lives of innocent children in their mother's

wombs Will be kept safe from the brutal death that may await them due to the whims of

biological parents who do not want to inconvenience their lives with the added responsibilities

of Raising a child and due to the murderous physicians who are more than happy to get paid to remove those

Responsibilities by killing those unwanted babies in unspeakably grotesque ways.

What are the most vital?

Expectations Christians should realistically have in the realm of existence of

or removal of abortion.

Infanticide

in our

state the media

never

asked.

But as far as what happens with life in Pennsylvania.

It's up to the people.

The people get to decide and it's the fact.

Just check out the Constitution and the Supreme Court.

The people get to decide on.

You know, what abortion looks like in Pennsylvania if you want life protective.

Obviously Matt.

Briana is your only choice between the two of us here.

Josh if you're once again stands radically for the extreme alternatives and abortion that only countries like

China and.

Yeah, it may surprise some of our listeners as it did surprise me.

Who wonder hey, wait a minute.

Why don't why doesn't abortion become a federal crime?

It is interesting to discover that murder is a state's issue when it comes to the

legal process so since we obviously view we who are

Regenerate Christians view abortion as murder.

This would go under that category of being a state's issue.

The going on now, oh first of all before I go to the energy industry I just wanted to

put my own two cents in here as much as I do love a Sean Hannity and Listen

to him and view him regularly and agree with most of what he says.

I believe all abortion is murder And therefore should be

outlawed in for all reasons.

Sean Hannity and others make exceptions for rape incest and

the life of the mother and I believe that if Abortion is murder.

There should be no reason why one should be legally permitted to conduct this

horrific Procedure quote -quote, which is the killing of a baby?

The energy industry is one of the most vital areas that provides employment and

maintains wealth here in Pennsylvania and the leftists want the heart of this state source of prosperity

to be ripped out from us as.

Governor can you put a stop

to this?

And if so,

how and

it's not

gonna happen and

it's not gonna happen.

I have something called the Pennsylvania Thank You

Senate bill and I'll implement in the

on day one when I'm governor when I'm sworn in on day

one I'll remove us from the regional greenhouse gas initiative called Reggie.

Reggie is a basically a carbon tax.

And if you wanted why you're your energy costs went up almost by double on the 1st of June.

It's because governor Tom Wolfe sign us up for Reggie.

Now Reggie's hung up in court right now, but did not stop your costs going up.

And so on day one we're out of Reggie within a few weeks and then there's in the cold ones.

We're gonna have if you hopefully you'll see the prices drop pretty significantly.

So you won't have to choose between heating your homes or heating.

Part two of my plan of years and Tom Wolfe's regulations on energy sector.

He's put so many restrictions on our energy sector that some of these have been fleeing now leaving for

Ohio and Texas.

And West Virginia whether you know for better I will be

opening up a state land my goal is that we'll drill and dig like we never done before.

We'll do it responsibly, of course, but we're gonna do that.

You're Pennsylvania number one and to

facilitate that I have my eyes on two pipelines that will get the Energy, especially the freedom

gas to the ports of Philadelphia and also one off of Yuri.

My goal is that to modernize look by national gas terminals, especially one off of Philly.

And so then we become a multi -billion dollar exporter of gas to

Germany and Poland and the Baltic nations as well.

Right now the Germans are stuck on Russian oil and gas that the Germans are paying about two billion

dollars a month.

That money should be coming to an ally like America and in the Pennsylvania.

So what whether you live in an energy area the state or not is irrelevant.

But that's what that's gonna do Mike Pennsylvania Energy Independence Act here is bring a billion dollars

of many high -paying jobs and supporting jobs.

Of course will come in.

We're looking at maybe four to be a 300 that your economy and making the world safer

for us because if we're not relying upon Russian oil and gas I'm talking about we enter in our allies.

What or we're not out there banking for the Saudis to increase oil production.

Biden is doing that and going hey, you know a hat in hand over to the Venezuelans as well.

We could do this ourselves.

Yeah, this is.

It's just palpably insane how leftists are

maintaining any level of popularity here in Pennsylvania when the very

heart of our existence Financially lies within the energy industry.

It's just to me.

It's absolutely mind -boggling.

And.

Another thing one of the very key reasons that government even exists in our lives is to

protect our citizens from harm by evildoers.

However.

Leftists are in a rapidly increasing degree doing all they can to protect the evildoers

and make the law abiding Even more vulnerable to physical harm and death and more likely to be

to be the victims of violent crime says governor.

What can you do to reverse this?

And on his watch and John Adams on

Josh Shapiro's nearly 40 higher.

16 first year in

office to us here 560 times

Philadelphia this year alone.

It's so high that the grave diggers are set on the crossfire and some some kids just

made a stupid choice.

On his watch for the fourth highest in fentanyl death on his watch.

We have the shooting up in public spaces down in Philadelphia Kensington.

My wife and I were there just a few days ago without Cameras, but I don't do stunts.

It's horror.

We have 12 to 15 people a day.

Dying in Pennsylvania from over 4th highest in the nation

is happening in our cities and towns.

Josh Shapiro doesn't care and doing instead of doing his job Josh Shapiro has spent his time.

He fought also

get this time.

Last year a girl in Lansing

County, Virginia was raped 15 year old girl.

The school board tried to cover it up.

The dad was upset this time last year.

That's life under Josh Shapiro instead of doing his job.

He sued Stuff so we remember remember the

suffering of his kids and grandkids.

Well, these ridiculous science like and dear friend

Josh Shapiro filed a dismissal motion.

County mom who is.

Absolutely amazing.

Since you mentioned the bathroom issue.

When it comes to the old saying if you give an inch they will take a mile.

Christians have never seen this adage more vividly proven to be true than in the satanic

levels of the evil so -called LGBTQ wing of leftism has

Inflicted upon innocent children.

It is going far beyond drag queens reading story books to

prepubescent kids in libraries.

The Depraved parents are legally using their precious Confused children

as laboratory rats and are irreversibly Having dangerously demonic men and

women in white coats sexually mutilate them Pharmaceutically and surgically.

How can you as governor eradicate this hellish behavior from our state?

Ending that's up to you.

But you know, it should not be

Kids who are caught in this of abuse.

We've seen many many testimonies of people here.

That is that a regret decision and they don't like to have all the information given to them on day one.

We're gonna reach.

I stand with all the girls and going to our schools across the state here.

I stand for their safety and protection and I can't imagine, you know being a girl in school and you know.

Deciding whether you use the bathroom or not.

If you have enough friends with you to protect you because there might be somebody hiding in there like in Loudoun County, Virginia.

That's a fact.

That we've allowed this to go so far here where the parents most parents in the school.

You know parents want to have their kids safe.

So on day one, there'll be no more boys in the girls bathroom.

On day one I stand with female athletes.

Let me break this down here.

So Tom Walsh and Josh Shapiro thinks it's a great idea.

To have all the science biological males.

Participating on the girls team and not just participating with stealing away scholarships and opportunities.

Women have only had the right to vote for 102 years in America and the female athletics have only recently

achieved a similar Opportunity to

50 years of sacrifice on their title line.

Title.

I had a fan and Josh Shapiro wants to roll back the clock 50

years on women's achievements in athletics by having biological men be on the girls team.

Let's think about your family, you know the stacker

now you bring on biological males.

There's there are male high school runners faster than the fastest female athlete.

There's significant strength and biological skeletal issues and advantages

guys

almost 500 467 I think on the men's team.

Decided to go on the girls team is now setting records and stealing scholarships and opportunities away from female athletes

ladies swimmers.

With all the advantages that a guy has a bigger hand stronger muscles bigger lungs bigger feet.

That's all matters.

We saw when it kicks off and at one race and you know Thomas had like a three -fifth, you know, three foot longer

a jump strength alone.

And so on day one I stand with female athletes and there'll be no more boys on the girls team.

I mean, you know, there's one thing if it's a co -ed team here, but this is apples and hearts and my opponent Josh Shapiro

Rejoiced and cheered when governor will vetoed our bill.

It is so bad in Pennsylvania that I was giving remarks in defense of this bill on the floor of the Senate in

Harrisburg.

Backing up saying anything we need to end male domination.

You know or it's gonna end up each car pulling a reign over over women athletes.

But and I actually stopped it and you can watch my remarks on the Senate page and I'm like, man.

You sound like a radical feminist and I looked over to the Democrats and I made him appeal to it.

So where are the feminists and they were not there?

They almost unanimously voted against this bill to take with women athletes here.

So Josh Shapiro wants to pretend to be the champion of women's rights.

What have you?

He's a furthest from any champion of female rights as you can imagine.

Yeah, that's the amazing thing about issues like this even decades ago

where you would very rarely see feminists and Conservative evangelical

Christians become allies on anything but even decades ago the pornography issue

started to rise up some interesting allies with feminists and

conservatives and Today this is even more of a

stunning issue that has Brought together unlikely

bedfellows as they say where we have feminists and conservative evangelicals

Linking arms to fight the atrocity not only of Men

biological men competing against women in sports, but even the aforementioned bathroom issue

and other issues where women are rightly looking at what the left is

doing and Seeing it as a very threat to womanhood.

Am I right?

Yes, and

you know,

we saw

Congresswoman

Flores when that

one seat in Texas

on the border.

She was born in Mexico.

She immigrated legally to America.

America dream.

She is the faith as she wins a seat that a Republican hadn't held like a hundred

fifty years in history.

And she came in and her and her motto of course is the O's Austria family, you know, you know God.

Country and family.

Those are the same ideals that most conservative Republicans uphold in esteem.

You know, we of course we honor our God.

We we respect our country and we love to protect our family and we're the Democrats have gone too far

and we saw this This drunk with

2020 how they thought they could suspend and roll back

our God -given rights.

These aren't just Constitution right you and they just can't stop.

They are constantly when the science a prolong the shutdown and it had got

in this and you don't how far they've gone in so.

Many schools were you know, people are being shamed because of their skin color, you know, whatever you want to

call it.

You know teaching kids to hate each other based off of something.

They have nothing to do with genetically.

There is repugnance mean it's so anti -american.

So on day one We're going to reaffirm parental rights, this is how far we've gone so on day one I'm going to reaffirm

parental rights and we're gonna fight like heck with the General Assembly to of course get the school choice.

It's the irony is people like Josh Shapiro Are good with school choice from the cells just like Obama

that they can afford to send their schools in a nation.

It should be you know, he can afford it.

He's a he's a wealthy man.

It has his daddy's wealth.

Wants for nothing and he sent his four kids to a school that cost between thirty and forty thousand dollars a pop per kid.

What about the parents in Philadelphia, you know parents in Philadelphia 88 % of them are forcible choice.

I don't believe his double speak.

He's in the pocket of the school.

You school choice.

The only choice is Mastriano.

If you want to parent if you want to have a

transparency with curriculum I'll be ordering

our secretary to us

zooming in for classes and many parents were appalled.

Now when I see the lawns of my neighbors littered with the signs promoting the

candidacies of your leftist Opponent and all the other enemies of the core principles that gave birth to our

nation I am utterly baffled.

And I find it extremely difficult to believe these neighbors.

Genuinely believe themselves.

Their lives are improving in any way under the rapidly increasing weight of the leftist

tyrannical regime.

And I know you're not a mind reader.

But what could possibly be the motivation for the suicidal?

Insanity that keeps electing our nation's worst enemies in the political office and how

races like yours against Josh Shapiro.

Shapiro could even be remotely close.

So

called,

you know

rust belt Democrats into

the working

class

the Democrats

the Democrat Party left them behind.

I mean, they're realizing this is no longer, you know, as

you can imagine.

Many of my Italian Ancestors in America were Democrats.

This is not the same party part of that actually tried to play a little man.

Now it's actually Republican Party the roles of switchgear and the Democrats of the party clearly people and

you know Pharmaceuticals and and of course, you know the high -tech

offices and what -have -you and this

simple voter register,

but since Tom Wolfe and since Josh Shapiro is reckless policies on letting criminals

have been an office by they've lost Two

-thirds of that number.

They're down from a two million advantage before Koba to about 40 right now.

And Democrats and many of these are switching every month to either independent or Republican because they can see that the Democrat

Party if you want to raise your kids With the same freedom that you and I

had the only choice on this is match that it race cannot affect you.

Everything in Pennsylvania.

We have to win it.

You know, you may be surprised to hear me say this, but I'm actually going to raise my glass in toast

of the.

Geniuses.

In the ad agencies who work for the leftist Democrats?

Running commercials during this gubernatorial race because the commercials they have created

Against you are brilliant commercials in promotion of you.

When I watch most of these commercials I'm beginning in the very beginning and perhaps even

most of the way through.

I am thinking that your candidacy has Supported these

ads and I find out it's actually an ad for Josh Shapiro.

They're listing all of the reasons why every citizen of Pennsylvania should vote for you.

I don't know if you've Viewed it the same way I do, but it's absolutely amazing.

Yeah.

Back when I first started being

Shapiro AC unlike the major.

You know for us it's

mostly the people it's the people from across the nation that are rising up at small dollar donations.

They got themselves to run our ads, but they've gone too far.

When he and when he dad started running I thought they were too hard too heavy too extreme too

over -the -top too much and that in the end it would it would backfire and.

That's exactly what's happening.

You know, we're told that you know that this is like the days where you could buy elections.

But you can't.

People have been every person that I know has been a

you're

happy.

You have to choose between eating and eating.

You don't have enough money put gas in your car here.

You're trying to make a speech to deciding between food and medicine.

These are real, you know.

Tabletop issues at the kitchen table.

I've talked about it late time.

And a Democrat you're out there, you know fighting for these peripheral things.

That really don't affect people directly unless their lives are comfortable.

And so that's why we're gonna see a big victory here in Pennsylvania.

You know, I keep getting asked before we go because I know that you have to leave us early but people keep

asking me if I think We can expect an honest

victory in this election.

No matter who wins.

I know that to dare question the integrity of the elections that

took place Where the left was voted into power to dare question that they

were actually voted into power is high treason these days.

Only when it's only high treason when the Democrats have benefited from these

elections that many view to have been stolen or rigged.

But can the conservative citizens of Pennsylvania Rest

with a greater measure of peace of mind this election that there will be no

fraudulent or should I say.

No.

Considerable element of fraudulent rigging and so on during the voting

process.

Well,

this is

not as

insecure as 2020 issues.

So the way ahead if you really are concerned about this, you know, and you know, I don't know.

We might both get a cat.

We'll do something about it.

So go to Doug for gov .com and sign up be a poll of poll watcher.

And we will train you to be with the look for if there's any laws violated.

We'll train you on who to contact to have the issues resolved including a team of attorneys will have handy.

Glenn Yonkin showed us the way ahead in Virginia when they had the same.

Well similar concerns by quite the same similar concerns in Virginia last year and yet he won.

He won is because instead the Republicans, you know wringing her hands and shaking her fist at the TV.

They volunteer to be poll watch workers and he had 95 of the polls covered and I need 20 ,000 people to

step up.

I want to hit every poll in Pennsylvania and that's the way we ensure state secure elections with transparent.

Well, he said it folks.

The website is Doug the number for gov gov .com

Doug for gov .com and I want to thank you so much for squeezing Iron Trump and Zion radio

into your very busy Schedule and I look forward to your return After your victory so that we

can both celebrate together you being the new governor of Pennsylvania.

Amen.

Well, god bless you.

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Welcome back if you just tuned us in.

Our guest for the first half hour was Doug Mastriano who is the Republican candidate for governor

in the state of Pennsylvania.

Our second guest is my dear friend.

Dr Joe Moore craft author and pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church of Cumming, Georgia.

We're going to be addressing for the remaining remainder of the program.

If God's in control.

Why should we vote.

How even Arminians can behave like hyper Calvinists during elections?

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio my dear friend.

Dr. Joe more craft.

It's always a joy to have you on the program brother and I am not alone in that opinion.

I seem to have a growing number of listeners who are a part of the Joe more craft

fan club.

Who?

From a wide spectrum of theological positions actually are saying man.

We really love that Joe more craft.

We look forward to having him you having him back on the program and we're always edified every time we hear him

so that always encourages me.

Not only that I am selecting my guests wisely but it encourages me that

so many people are Viewing you.

A growing number of people are viewing you as a true voice for truth, and I thank God for that.

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Great.

Well, I've got to get the brother Paul back on the program.

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Now the theme as I've already Mentioned is if God is in control

why should we vote.

How even Arminians can behave like hyper Calvinists during elections and.

This is an interesting time.

We're living in it could be Very discouraging for the most optimistic post -millennialist

even.

Because unlike what many people think about post -millennialists or post -millennialism

according to their caricature What many people believe in what many

people have even said in public even trained ministers who should know better.

Have said that post -millennialism is the idea that things will just in an Never

bending Upward arrow keep getting better and better and better and better, but

you don't believe that at all.

Do you.

I mean you could you think that there's a possibility we could even enter into a Period of darkness for

over a thousand years.

That is worse than mankind has ever seen.

Don't you believe that is a possibility?

Like the name I hate labels Simply believes in the victory orientation of the kingdom of

God in history and

and the conversion of nations that more and more people and nations Are

going to be

and Christianity and effects every

there are going to be time is not that they're setbacks but they're going to be times in

which it looks like God is disciplining his church and

God is Getting the church ready for battles in the future.

I think we are on the cusp of Another dark time in this country

because of the apostasy of the church 20th century

that we need to be brought back in line and The things that you're seeing now on

Television and the newspaper and I think even more so in a few

years to come Are going to be used by God To chasten us

to purify us So that God will yes and

this.

These dark times that we live in and I Do say that with a

reminder to our listeners that we who are here in the comfort of the United States as bad as things Are here.

There are places in the globe today?

There are infinitely worse when it comes to the persecution of the church and in the past.

Obviously in the first century and the early centuries of the of the church when

Nero was reigning and using Christians as human torches and Having them

fed to lions and other wild animals.

We can praise God that we are not right now experiencing anything like that.

But at the same time These are dark days.

These are days when Christians are rights being stripped from them being

ignored.

And the leftist totalitarians Keep getting politically stronger.

They keep brainwashing more of the citizens that surround us and we have even reached the point

where little children are being taken by their parents to

satanic physicians who are sexually mutilating them with pharmaceutical with surgery and

Sometimes I have even heard Christians.

I've even heard friends of mine saying That they don't know if they're even gonna bother

voting.

The votes keep getting rigged and the elections keep getting stolen and I don't like

The Republicans and I don't like the Democrats.

They're even worse and I'm just I'm tired of this.

God's in control He'll sort this all out.

I'm just tired of it.

Don't want to waste my time going to the voting booth now.

How is that a.

Wrong way to behave as a Christian that is for

people often today.

Often hide their and their laziness

Behind the

doctor.

If God's not in

control why vote?

If God's not in control, I pray God's not in control why do anything and

Realize that the greatest one of the greatest missionaries that ever lived was the man from whom we get a doctor to

predestination.

And that is the Apostle Paul Who was run out of every city went

into teaching the gospel

and the powers of

hell would not even

Amen should read the

book of

John See how

when he brought up a situation life on the

cross To guarantee the salvation of all those that God chose to be saved.

We have a lot of theological pride.

If you ask the question if God is sovereign why vote?

We need to understand that God often.

Does things in fact pick up where you left off there?

We don't want to forget means because it's a very important aspect of genuine authentic historic Calvinism.

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If you live outside of the USA and Dr. Moore crap before the break you are

about to enter into a very important aspect of historic reform

theology that actually separates hyper -Calvinists from historically

true authentic Calvinist biblically faithful Calvinists the issue of means the fact that God uses means

and in fact there are still many hyper Calvinists in the primitive Baptist

Denomination or Association or affiliation and I have to be careful.

They're not all that way I don't want a broad brush, but there are quite a number of hyper

-Calvinists in the primitive Baptist group who actually use the phrase

means doctrine as a pejorative that that is to them a heresy a an

aberrant teaching that God Uses means because in their opinion it makes God out to be an

Arminian so if you could pick up where you left off and

We will take it from there.

Well

God

often

uses

me

that

God

is

as

a

mean

that

God.

But

the

Bible

gives another day and revelation

in Romans third simple magistrate

Is to be a minister unto you for good.

But in revelation

it

says

that

the

civil

magistrate

to

make

them

live in holy

scripture

and then they could use the force of a gun and Police

force though.

They're not

the

law of

vision

and that which was intended

by God.

She's

are talking about how

God's Word applies to every area of life.

I'm not talking about liberals.

I'm talking about evangelicals.

Apprehensive worldview.

Nevertheless when they go in the voting booth leave the Bible on the outside.

What the Bible says about political candidates and.

So they go into the voting booth the party that they're a

part of.

Or they go into the vote this guy even though I don't like him.

Yeah, the guy's going to you and they leave the Bible on the outside.

We're in the mess.

We're in today so if.

The subject is if God is sovereign. Why

burn it's your duty protect your family from tyranny.

But if you're going to vote for those upon you another law than the law of the Bible

don't vote.

I would rather you stayed at home.

Yeah, in fact that lends itself what you just said to our

next questioner.

Our next listener who has a question.

We have Bobby and Hartsdale, New York.

Who says do you believe in ever voting for the lesser of two evils?

And I'm sorry, you probably have been asked this a million times.

Yeah, in fact, I remember that vividly coming up.

Rarely have I ever remembered during an election

Season especially a presidential election season in my lifetime.

We're both candidates were Pro -abortion,

but that did occur With the governor's race in

New York when I guess that was in the in the 1990s

when Mario Cuomo was running for governor against George

Pataki.

George Pataki was the Republican and They were both pro

-abortion and I remember Asking even reformed pastors that I knew.

What should I do about this?

These men are both in favor of killing babies.

And.

Quite a number of them said well, you should vote for the lesser of two evils.

So at least George Pataki is In favor of the death penalty and other things

that we as Christians should stand for.

So I would suggest you vote for George Pataki, but what do you think about that.

That is a terrible answer.

All kinds of levels.

Liberal that acts like conservative and runs and in the process destroys the

reputation of conservatism.

We're not we can always identify.

The second thing is to understand where that phrase originated.

The phrase vote for the lesser.

The two originated In the by my Republic of

it after World War one.

And vision comes to

them, but if

you'll vote

for me

with the

new government.

So that you can make all the money you want to make.

Interesting because Hitler was not a capitalist himself.

You don't vote.

Yeah, there's

putting for evil men

the standard of the Word of

God.

Person that is close now.

There's no such thing as a perfect if a

candidate Marriages,

but then they vote

out of fear.

They say well if you don't vote for the Republic of the Democrats gonna get elected.

You start making mistakes.

And I'm sure you would agree that that would go hand -in -hand with voting out of impatience for

change because you

have people Who are?

Conservative they may be a Republican.

Who are so?

Determined to see Republicans keep winning elections that they

would rather see a pro murder meaning pro child murder

candidate pro homosexual candidate.

Win an election to keep the Republicans in office and what they are doing is they're

actually Creating a blueprint for victory for future candidates who will say

wow we won the last elections by being in favor of child murder And homosexual marriage.

We should keep this up.

Amen.

And Let's see we have Dan in, Indiana, Pennsylvania a

first -time questioner who says Dr.. Moore craft has influenced my worldview more

than anyone.

I am very thankful for his books and sermons.

My question is when are you coming up to Pennsylvania to do a pastor's luncheon?

And thank you Chris for having the luncheons.

They are a real blessing.

Well.

I did ask dr. Moore craft and because of his difficulty in

being mobile He has given me a maybe as an answer.

I'm hoping that with the reassurance that somebody will push you around in in the wheelchair.

No matter where you need to go and provide transportation that you will eventually take me up on my invitation.

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Get for submitting questions, so thanks a lot Dan.

One thing. I forgot to say is.

Established

if

God's

going

to

bless

England

and

Scotland

knowing

about the

prophet

of

the

Hebrew Republic

Wines.

Those have a great political

Influence the writing of the United States.

Well, I got to look that up.

We have an anonymous listener Who says I am remaining

anonymous because I am at odds with most of the people in my own church over my political

views.

I happen to be a pro -life Libertarian and I have noticed

although I am NOT personally a theonomist not yet.

Anyway, I have noticed that many theonomists are also libertarians

in spite of the apparent Contradiction in those two things.

I was wondering what your guest Joe Moore craft Thinks of libertarianism and of course I

am NOT speaking of those libertarians Who are leftward -leaning in regard to

social values and morals.

Who are pro -abortion and pro -homosexual marriage and other things such as that that are our

abomination?

I'm speaking here of right -leaning libertarianism and Christian libertarianism.

That's a good question.

I don't call myself a libertarian.

I have a lot of friends who do who are theonomist and what they mean by that is even

limited civil

with the

Constitution Constitution

Homosexuality, I have no argument with them at all.

Confusing people.

I just don't use the term with reference.

But you do see value in at least what a lot of those who use that title

believe.

Right, that's right.

And.

We also going back to a part of our subtitle of the theme today we

have to be reminded that it's not just Theologically reformed

Christians who may be using God's control over things as An excuse not to

vote even when there's at least one viable candidate that may not perfectly match

what they Want to see in an elected official.

Armenians can behave like hyper Calvinists not only in the area of voting but even in the area

of evangelism.

There are many Armenians who behave

like hyper Calvinists and some of it may be not for theological

reasons, but just because of fear of men they they don't want to evangelize people openly who are

in serious conflict with their Worldview and their religion because they fear the repercussions of it

or they're just embarrassed.

They're ashamed of the gospel but whatever the case may be we have to make sure that we don't give the wrong idea that only reformed people are

abusing this idea and not doing what they What duty commands them to do?

Are you still there brother Joe?

Cuz I heard you breaking

up.

I Heard his voice really breaking up badly and I don't know what was going on there.

So I am going to disconnect with him and Hopefully when we come back for after

our final break Hopefully dr. Moore craft will be available and I

hope that his phone did not either die or Or something else.

But anyway, we'll be right back.

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Hi, I'm Pete Hegseth co -host of Fox and Friends weekend now, I don't have to tell you but American

education.

It's in a freefall crumbling under the weight of a century of damage inflicted upon America's academic

system.

The answer it's called classical Christian education a form of K through 12 ed.

That's very distinct from the type of education Most Americans have received Myself included

and that's why I'm so excited to have been invited by my friends at Long Island's Grace Christian

Academy to talk about this wonderful growing movement and new approach rediscovered to education.

It's at 7 p .m. October 15th at the Marriott Hotel and Conference Center in Melville, New York.

I'll also be signing copies of my New York Times best -selling book battle for the American mind for the first 50

guests starting at 6 p .m.

Now, this is a fundraising event designed to raise money to help grow this type of education at a time

when it is So desperately needed so please come ready to give and to learn About a way to

stimulate academic revival in our great country.

You can purchase tickets for the event by visiting Gcali gcal i .com

and following the link to the gala event.

I hope to see you there.

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Dr Joseph C. Moore craft the third and how is the sound connection now, dr. Moore crab?

I figured that was happening.

But.

The so that's a more complicated issue than people might think because even you believe That

if you are going to violate your conscious before God and vote for somebody that you think Is

an enemy of Christ? There's a liar is a believer in child murder

and sodomy you believe that

The that would be a lesser of two evils voting which you are opposed to.

So this is not just a clear -cut issue of every Christian

having a duty To vote at any time and under all

circumstance.

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the

Conservative

Party

and

it

was

not large

enough

to a

large

enough

That the Democrats hope

they wouldn't win.

The Conservative Party of New York

did elect a conservative to the United States Senate.

William Buckley that

people intimidate you if

that you can be dishonored God for it.

Be afraid to conflate the holder

be professed to be Christians.

I said if they blaspheme In a

speech Ruby's fame Almighty

God, you don't have my.

I mean, that's the way we got to talk.

There was a young man running for the United States Congress, he

Took me out to eat because he wanted my influence.

He thought I was more influential in the Republican Party because I had run for

Congress in that party.

My influence had waned so anyway, he took me out to eat and I asked him a bunch of political

question.

And then I said, so we go When you get elected and you

stand in the United States House of Representatives.

How are you going to represent the crown rights of King Jesus?

He said well I've never been asked that question.

What our goal is?

In fact, I'm a Trinitarian and We've got to

make sure as Christians.

What what is the goal that we want in politics and we

get involved in politics and try to straighten out things in America?

They think well if we can get an amendment the Constitution.

Outlawing abortion if we can get a conservative.

Go and that is that's not the case at all.

If you call yourself a Christian in the political

arena to

continue just call you for the day.

When the United States of the America and your state

and king of King and that no Shall be passed at this rub

up the revealed will of God found in Holy Scripture.

That's your goal as a Christian.

If that's not your goal as a Christian in it, you might as well.

Well, we're out of time brother and the time did fly by quickly, especially we since we only had

90 minutes after gubernatorial Candidate a

Doug Mastriano filled the first half hour.

So I want to make sure that our listeners have your contact information.

The Heritage Presbyterian Church of Cumming, Georgia may be found at

Heritage Presbyterian Church calm heritage Presbyterian Church calm and If

you could also plug your book again on the subject of politics and where our listeners can get it.

Great that's comprehensive Christianity calm.

Also, folks, don't forget.

I want you to join me if you are capable of getting to Long Island, New York this Saturday.

I.

Want you to join me at the Marriott in Melville, Long Island for the

Grace Christian Academy fundraising gala featuring Pete Hegseth of

Fox News a fine Christian gentleman who is on staff there

one of the very few actual regenerate believers there and I'm thrilled that he's

the keynote speaker for this fundraising back at banquet where I am going to be

The master of ceremonies.

I'm very honored that they asked me to do that.

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I want to thank you again.

Dr. Moore craft for always being such a superb guest.

I want to thank everybody for listening.

I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior

than you are a sinner.