Eschatological Madness about Israel, Further Review of Muhammed Hijab

Well, greetings and welcome to the Dividing Lines of Friday. We're doing an extra show this week, just simply to sort of catch up on stuff, I guess. I'm just getting slower with age. That's all there is to it.

I can't seem to get everything that I need to get to. You hear that? There's lots of stuff going on. I'm not sure. You know, I'm looking at that other camera. Is that it looks like it's aimed like at the back wall or something?

Is that is that even is that even cool?

Let me see.

Yeah, it's sort of aimed behind me a little bit. You probably could pan that over, but well, I guess it covers pretty much everything. It really wouldn't be anything else to see there. Yeah. Weird. Anyway, don't just have to use it all the time to get both Luther and the the thing in the back.

Yeah, yeah. Well, that that Monet back there is striking, isn't it? That is that is a beautiful Monet. Now, the original is not quite that bright. I enhanced it, but it's well, actually, it looks a whole lot brighter than that one.

Anyway, hi, it's Friday, casual Friday. So that works. I'm watching the insanity flow by on Twitter. And and anyways, we got stuff to get to today. One of the topics that we didn't talk about at all this week was the the Smith Station mayor and Baptist pastor F .L. Bubba Copeland.

Don't know if you saw that story, but I saw it first on Protestia and. It was basically, how do you say this gently? You have a late middle age, slightly overweight Baptist pastor living a double life.

I mean, and it's not just a double life. It's it's like he's living two completely contradictory lives. One, he's a pastor of a standard Southern out of his Southern Baptist, but standard Southern, as in in the South Baptist Church.

And in the other life, he is a complete sexual pervert. I mean. Some type of. Transgender porn writing, picture posting just. The exact opposite. Of anything that a Baptist pastor would be preaching or teaching in the South of the United States.

And somehow, I mean, he's literally doing this online. I don't it sort of reminds me a little bit of Ergen Kanner, who would just lie outrageously in front of cameras and microphones. Sort of like, you know, no, this does know what that does.

I yeah, I mean, it was just the other room right over here. Where Isamah Tala and I, my Arabic tutor from years ago. Recorded, I remember doing it very clearly, recorded a video responding to all these places where Kanner had tried to pretend to be using Arabic.

And so here's a guy who was born in Syria. OK, he's a native Arabic speaker. And it's like. So he said that said this, what he actually says, I have no idea. How would you say that? And then he'd say it in Arabic.

And and it was like, Ergen, there were microphones right in front of you. There are cameras.

It's going to catch up to you.

And this guy is posting this stuff. And thankfully, I've only seen certain pictures. Oh, he's posting this stuff where he's wearing women's clothing and he's. Calling himself a curvy transgender and but then he's also writing stuff, and I guess he was I guess there were victims involved as far as posting women's information online and just all sorts of stuff like that.

And it was bad. And on a Wednesday night, he once the article came out, he stands before his people and says, it's not going to change my life. It's all been taken out of context. I don't know how they're like, what kind of a context can you possibly provide for that?

Oh. And look. It. I have said we need to hold to biblical standards of evidence. And so if he came back and said this is all completely fake and, you know, my, you know, at least there would be the need for further examination.

But he admitted it was him. Yeah, that was that's me. And but it's not going to change anything. I love my community. I love my church. And two days later, he shot himself in the head. And so all of a sudden, you know, people like Zack Lambert are going, oh, see, this is this is a terrible hatred toward transgender people.

Look, you have a man who is living a lie. And we're not talking about a little lie. We're talking about living. This is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. This is as contradictory a lifestyle as you could possibly imagine.

It's just sure hypocrisy. I don't even I don't know how long this lasted. I didn't see any information about that as to how many years has been going on. I don't know. But instead of recognizing that it's the behavior.

It's the perversity of the behavior. There are people literally trying to say, say, this is what happens when you don't accept transgenders. I suppose the fact that pedophiles likewise have high rates of suicide means that the solution for that is to affirm and accept pedophiles.

And then then we'll talk about bestiality and the whole. Again, people without a moral framework, no concept of ethics or anything like it at all. It hasn't really, outside of just the few announcements, it really hasn't had much of an impact.

There might be people talking about it, but it's a it's an extremely sad story, obviously. But it reminds us once again, you never, ever ground your faith on the basis of someone else. And you just have to wonder what's going to happen to that church.

When, you know, you can't you can't keep that kind of stuff secret. And just to the testimony in that community and everything, it's very, very sad to see, very sad to see. I'm seeing all sorts of stuff likewise.

Yeah, sorry, being distracted by family stuff, asking if I can get a signed copy of John Cooper's book. He's actually sending me the hardback when it comes out, but it's not it's not ready yet. So he will be on the dividing line next Thursday, the 16th.

John Cooper will be joining us in the big studio to talk about his new book. And it's a big book. I think it's about the size of God Who Justifies. So it's a beastie. It seems like Wednesday, someone flipped a switch and things got really weird in social media.

Lots of just nastiness all over the place. And I'm looking at a woman who, this just happens to be on the screen. I wasn't scrolling. I think it just happens to be there. The replacement theology crowd reminds me of the time writer Donald Miller told another Christian writer that he doesn't attend church anymore because he's moved beyond the need for it.

And I'm just looking at it because the language of replacement theology rather than fulfillment theology, the whole issue of, well, it's just amazing. I'm going to read you something from a guy named Aaron.

The people who are committed to a certain form of primarily dispensational premillennialism, and I was raised in it. I was never challenged at that time to even think about what I was being committed to.

But it just seems like there is this absolute commitment to the idea that the modern state of Israel is somehow on every other page of the New Testament. When you think of how different the modern state of Israel is from the Israel of the days of Jesus, when you think of how it came into existence, there are people who just believe it's absolutely miraculous.

The UN is absolutely miraculous. The realignment of borders, governments, empires after World War II, absolutely miraculous. Well, okay, if you want to go there. But personally, I don't see any connection whatsoever between a secular Jewish state, because that's what it is.

Are there religious Jews in Israel? Well, duh. Are they the majority of people in Israel? Well, no, they're not. Not by a long shot. And in fact, from what I understand, Israel is the island in, obviously, that area.

It's an island in many different ways. But sociologically, that's the island of LGBTQ flourishing, and support, and activity. And I just wonder, outside of the name, why... Okay, it's the location and the name, I guess.

That must be it. But there are so many other differences. So few people who are even semi-observant. I mean, okay, they've got Shabbat. All right, so you've got elevators. You've got a Shabbat elevator.

All right. I guess that makes it a fulfillment of some New Testament something or other.

I don't know.

But anyway, the result is that... There was this woman on Twitter a couple of days ago talking about how disappointed she was in me. Because I dared to go, you know, what's going on over there doesn't make any sense to me at all.

The initial attack, everybody had the same... Everybody was saying the same thing. How did that happen? How did one of the most advanced monitoring satellites, drones, computers, walls, the IDF, tanks, how, on a Jewish holiday, which is normally when the other side attacks, hello, do you think they don't know that?

Could be so taken by surprise. Right as the Israeli Prime Minister is about to get kicked out. And there might be a major governmental meltdown in Israel.

And by the way,.

You want to check this out? Check the weeks out prior to October 7th on the briefing with Al Mohler. He was talking about the constitutional crisis in Israel. And how Netanyahu's days were greatly numbered.

And so I'm just sitting here going, I'm joining with everybody else going, so people from Gaza somehow had paragliders and drones and they didn't know anything about this? And they weren't prepared for this?

And then other governments come out later and said, well, we tried to tell them. And they don't want to say it overly loudly, but like Egypt, for example, depends on Israeli control to keep, they don't want the Palestinians.

None of these other countries want the Palestinians. The Palestinians have, look at what the precursors to those individuals did. Look what they did to Lebanon. They have created havoc everywhere they've gone.

Because they won't build anything and they won't behave, basically. And so they don't, Egypt doesn't want them and nobody else wants to take them. And so there's a lot of reason to go, yeah, there's stuff going on here that we don't know.

And I said, and some of the video just seems staged. I'm so disappointed in you. I'm like, wait a minute. Remember the scene of all the dead bodies in Italy from COVID that was actually from years earlier and it had nothing to do with COVID and yet they fake that and when you see dead bodies getting a cigarette, I mean there has been lots of staged stuff and every side does it.

Ukraine? There's all sorts of staged video in that war. If you're sitting there going everything I see on Twitter is 100 accurate. I've got some land I'd like to sell you out along the Colorado River or something.

You're just naive. But then there's a theological naivete which basically says that if you hold a certain eschatology you have to believe everything that comes out of the Israeli government as being gospel truth or they'll be disappointed in you.

I'm just like, are you really telling me that you think it's absolutely beyond almost any regime today to stage something, sacrifice their people to maintain power and to create a paradigm change? You really honestly are telling me that can never happen.

Nobody would ever do that. And it seems to come from this eschatological commitment on the part of people. I was blown away. So some guy named Aaron I'll just give you an idea and this is a long one.

This is a long one.

Please read and share if you are so inclined. Well, I'm going to read it to everybody. This is actually heartbreaking. Because some guy named John this was the same guy that Steve Camp then jumped onto and said yeah, he does never say anything about his Muslim friends and all the rest of that foolishness that Steve Camp put out there.

And I had announced that what we were going to talk about was the Ohio stuff. I was going to have Jeff on and we were going to talk about the passing by a large portion large majority and what that means for the moral and ethical state of the United States of America and the future of our work in seeking to abolish abortion and what that's going to require.

And this one guy is like.

So.

Let me see here. I think yeah, hey. James, did you hear about that thing in Israel? Why aren't you talking about that?

So.

From these guys' perspective this is the most important thing because it's biblical prophecy being fulfilled right before our eyes. And I'm just like and you're sure of this? Is this Gog and Magog and all the rest of that kind of stuff?

Or which chapter of late great planet Earth are we supposed to be studying here together? And my response was hey John, did you hear about that thing in Ohio? Going to talk about that? I don't live in Israel, don't know what's going on since no one actually does and hence have nothing meaningful to say about it.

And that was the issue. That was the big problem. Rich says Harold Camping's on line one. That's a long distance call. Anyway that's what got everybody upset when I said I don't live in Israel, don't know what's going on since no one actually does and hence have nothing meaningful to say about it.

Evidently if you hold to the right eschatology you do know what's going on. You can tell what's staged and not staged by having the right eschatology.

Did you know that?

When you see video coming up, you're going to be able to recognize AI and non-AI if you're reading Hal Lindsey. If you've got left behind on, right behind you you're going to be able to tell what's staged and what's not staged.

What?

What are you talking about? So here's where things just start getting weird. This is actually heartbreaking. I sincerely hope that all of you will take a step back and deeply consider the crippling blindness that a false eschatology really can inflict upon.

An in.

In many ways in a many ways sound brother. After sarcastically dismissing the atrocity committed against the Jews in Israel by comparing it to some other mundane event in Ohio Hos El Yithroi that's me, by the way Hos El Yithroi means as free men from Peter then proceeds to say, so just stop a second.

Listen to that. After sarcastically dismissing the atrocity committed against Jews in Israel I didn't dismiss anything any idea that it's against the Jews in Israel. Look, Hamas wants the destruction of Israel.

No question about it. That's not even that's not even disputable. There's no dealing with Hamas. These people hate the Jews so much they're willing to use the Palestinians as human shields kill them, starve them do everything else.

They are massively evil people. Great. Nothing I can do about it from over here other than to try to equip people as I've been doing for.

Years.

To present the gospel to Muslims in such a way that it's actually understandable to them and can challenge them and can direct them to the answers to their hatred for Jews or anybody else. But I didn't dismiss the atrocity.

I said I don't know what happened and there's lots and lots of people who are questioning who's doing what to whom and for what reasons. And for you to sit there and think that because you're reading your proper eschatology you know that's dangerous.

That's just really dangerous for you to think that way. And then compare it to some mundane event in Ohio and he puts Ohio in scare quotes. I think Ohio exists. I have been to Ohio and recently I drove through it a matter of weeks ago actually.

Ohio really does.

Exist.

Stop there.

I have.

But it wasn't a mundane event. In fact more children will die as the result of that mundane event than were killed in that invasion of Israel.

But.

Because of eschatology you prioritize what happens over there over against anything anyplace else. In fact you don't seem to recognize what happened in Ohio is now going to result in I am very sure over the next year, year and a half numerous similar measures in many other states which will only multiply the number of innocents who will be killed as a result.

And you call that a mundane event? You think you've got a sound eschatology when you can call that a mundane event because of your eschatology? Wow. Man. Talk about having completely lost balance.

So.

Quotes when I said no one actually does. Really? It truly is a mass deception when a false triumphalist eschatology position, post-millennialism, has seemingly prevented a well-respected and renowned Bible teacher from looking at the very clear significance of the state of Israel currently as well as the regathering of Israel with all its prophetic significance in general.

Which would have zippity dippity doo-dah to do with what I said. Even if you bought that stuff. Even if you buy all of that stuff. Even if you ignore that we're the true Israelites and all the rest of that kind of stuff, the fulfillment language of the New Testament, even if you ignore everything that happened in 87 and everything else, it still would not lead to this conclusion.

What I was saying had nothing to do with my eschatology. It has to do with the fact that I recognize that we live in a day where we are being deceived all the time through the use of our eyes and our ears and being given false information and you can't tell anymore.

You cannot tell when you're looking at a video you can't tell whether it's real or not anymore.

You can't.

There are entire movies today that are produced with massively advanced CGI.

That.

Honestly if you brought someone back from 100 years ago and showed it to them they would not believe for a second that what they were watching wasn't real. But it's not. It's fake. And yes, fakes are being used.

AI.

I've heard my own voice being used to make me say things I've never said. It's not going to be long at all until the technology is generally available to do the same thing with video that's why I said we need to hold to a biblical standard of evidence and stuff on computer and stuff like that you're just not going to be able to trust it.

Because someone hacks into your computer they can put anything they want there and make anything look like whatever they want to make it look like. It's already can be done. So all I was talking about is man, you know what?

It just seems like there are so many forces in the world today that just want continuous war, they want continuous government spending deficit spending on every kind of weapon system on the planet. It sort of looks like there are people that are using Ukraine and now Gaza as testing grounds for all sorts of different kinds of weapon systems.

You don't think there are people like that out there? You must be really naive. But the dangerous thing to me is when people take their eschatology and as a result they think that if you recognize that, that's because of your false eschatology.

That's your eschatology speaking. No, this is your eschatology speaking. And what it's saying is says, Dr. White, you have an absolutely massive amount of believers who are pre-millennial that listen to you.

Pre-millennial or dispensational pre-millennial? And even once you get into the dispensational pre-millennial, I know all sorts of dispensational pre-millennialists who listen to this program who are sitting here going, he wasn't talking about eschatology.

He was talking about the fact that we're living in a day where there's a lot of fake stuff going on. They didn't see it as eschatology. So why did you? That's.

A pretty good question.

I'm not sure which one came first here. Okay, I think this is the last one here. It was long. Additionally, most if not all of them recognize God's promises to Israel as a nation in both her regathering and also her increasing troubles as being very significant biblical events.

Well, I'm sorry, but I have never seen anyone, including my dear brother Michael Brown, present any kind of meaningful biblical argument that the modern nation of Israel, 1948 onward Israel, is anywhere in Scripture.

I mean, you've just got to stand on your head to come up with that kind of stuff. Sorry. I know it's extremely popular, but it just.

You can't.

Defend it biblically.

I love you, Dr. White. You've taught me so much valuable information over the years. I truly thank God for much of your work, but brother, I've got to tell you, you're dead wrong. I'm just going to come out and say this because I love you.

So, dead wrong about what? That AI is being used to create fake video? That the staging of events is taking place in Ukraine, Israel, all over the world,.

And.

We don't possess, as individuals, the technological capacity? I guess there's a website someplace that you can submit video to, and it'll give you a rating, 90 probable this was real, 10 it's AI, or whatever, something like that.

Who put that together? You have to completely trust that whoever's putting that together doesn't have some kind of ulterior motive, too. It's just amazing to me that the basic statement that, you know what, we're living in a day where there's a whole lot of reason to be skeptical about what you're seeing, and that the wise person will be skeptical, and unless there's multiple sources confirming what you're seeing, you might want to be skeptical.

You've got a false eschatology! It has nothing to do with eschatology at all. You could be a pan-millennialist, and go, yeah, we gotta approach everything.

Right now.

It has nothing to do with it at all. The whole.

Edgy,.

Edgy?

I wear coochies.

If I want to be edgy,.

I'm not wearing coochies.

Why are you talking about edgy?

Apology of Church. Yeah, what about it? You want to get specific here? You want to take on what Apology of Church is doing in end abortion now? You want to maybe look at the sermons that are preached in Apology of Church?

How about the fact that Jeff has been going through Proverbs now forever? That's not how you do edgy. You don't do edgy by trying to work through the Book of Proverbs, because that's hard work. What's edgy about that?

I mean, okay. Post Mill? Yeah, so? Theonomy? Yeah, been that way for a long time, actually. All you gotta do is go back, listen to the Holiness Code series. When was that? 2016?

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Only come into existence the last five years or so is being deceived. You haven't given me any reason to put any meaningful weight upon what you're saying, at all. None. Many of us see it, but most don't say anything.

But I love you too much for that. The preterist post-millennialism you've fallen into due to the influence of Jeff Durbin. Well, I'm sure Jeff will be very happy to hear that. Has blinded you to what's happening and made you act rather callously toward brothers who can clearly see what's coming down the pipeline with regard to geopolitical events.

Oh, you can, huh? Let me help you out here with something, young 'un, because you're a young 'un. I can tell. I've seen this happen many times before. My memory's pretty good back to, oh, very late 60s, early 70s.

And, oh, have I seen it. Man, I'll never forget walking out of North Phoenix Baptist Church and on my old 1972 Buick LeSabre, the brown bomb, we called it. There was a booklet tucked nicely under the windshield.

Wiper.

88 reasons why the rapture will take place in 1988. Is that what it was? I forgot what the number was, but you all remember what it was. Edgar Wisenet, was that what it was? Anyways, I've seen this come and go.

I've seen people saying, you just need to look to what the Bible says to be able to discern what's happening in the Middle East, and the ten nations of the European Union is a ten-headed beast, and that means this is going to happen.

Yeah, yeah, been there, done that, got the t-shirt, and have come to realize that's a really foolish way of doing.

Exegesis.

Act rather callously. You mean the people who were mocking me for not prioritizing their prophetic speculations about dealing with what happened in Ohio? You mean that's acting callously? I'm going to keep doing it, because you've lost your mind as to what callous means.

That, those men, this John fellow, Noah's flood, there's callous. Attacking apologia without being specific, because you can't. That's callous. You want callous? I'll give you callous. And you really think you can clearly see what's coming down the pipeline, huh?

Did you see Ukraine coming? How about COVID? Did you see COVID coming? Did you see the WEF? Are these some of the beasts maybe we missed in Revelation? Maybe they're in Daniel somewhere. Is that what we've got going on here?

You cannot, in good Christian conscience, write these brothers off as no one knows what's happening in Israel. That statement was saying that we are not there. We are dependent upon media. We are dependent upon different sources, and we don't have the ability to necessarily verify the conflicting information.

And that's a fact. And if your eschatology allows you to turn things into facts that could be pure fiction, there's your problem. There's your problem. I'm imploring you to do some deep reflection on this, brother.

Apology at church has blinded many people to a proper eschatological perspective. We'll have to answer to God for this, despite all the other wonderful things it does and stands for. I am so sorry for people whose eschatology is so shallow it cannot exist in the light of other people's positions.

See, ours doesn't have to do that. I can work with people from other perspectives as long as they don't adopt this attitude. This attitude is.

Dangerous.

It's dangerous. It's allowing you to take the attitude, and I saw other people saying the same thing. When I dare to say, you mean anything Israel says is absolutely true. Well, of course! It's like, you realize this is not a Christian nation.

These are not Christian people. They're primarily secular. And so they now have religious infallibility because of your really, really, really modern eschatology?

Really?

Thank you Noah's Flood, this was the guy who was callously mocking me, for even attempting to get this monumentally important time in Israel's modern history spoken of by a respected Bible teacher. Well, if I'm to be a respected Bible teacher, what that requires me to do is newspaper exegesis like this?

Don't want it.

Don't want it.

But that's the whole reason I won't do it. Is because this is not sound biblical reasoning at all.

It's dangerous, it's scary.

Absolutely scary to me. Should be scary to everybody else. So Aaron, love ya, but you could not you said I couldn't be more wrong, you're the one who couldn't be more wrong. That's, wow. Bad stuff. Bad stuff.

So, yeah, lots of weird stuff going on out there along those lines. There was something else that I had down here. Too many open windows. Oh, here we go. You know, I was gonna talk a little bit about Frank Turek's Molinism answer to a question.

It's pretty short, but because the material for finishing up Jason Breda's stuff shouldn't take too much longer, that would fit better in the last section of Radio Free Geneva that we'll do. So I'm gonna actually sort of tie into where we were just now.

Because as I said, what is the most important.

Thing.

That we can do? We're not in Israel. We can pray for peace. We can pray for protection of Christians. Pray the truth be known. That evil men and women who are seeking all sorts of horrible things in this world, that they would be exposed and stopped.

We can pray for all those things.

But.

The only thing the church can really do is to be salt and light. And to be salt and light amongst the Muslims is to be able to communicate with the Muslims. And that means to be able to hear what they're saying.

To understand what they're saying. To have enough respect for them to listen and learn. And you might say, I will not respect Hamas. I'm not talking about respecting Hamas. Hamas is taking Islamic concepts.

They're picking and choosing certain elements of those concepts. Ignoring others.

And.

Emphasizing hatred in the name of religion to accomplish their purposes. How do you stop that? Bombs do do that. But they often just only produce more of that as a result. The only long term solution is to address the false religious underpinnings of any of that.

And that includes the nice Muslim neighbor who wouldn't harm a flea but who still does not believe that Jesus was crucified on the cross. And so how do you reach that person? That's what we're called to do.

It's scary to me that again, this eschatology can be used and is being used by people to minimize the importance.

Of.

Listening to the best Islam has to offer so as to be able to respond to the worst that it produces. When I had the dialogues with Yasir Qadhi, people like Steve Camp, their heads exploded because I said that I respected the man and learned much from the man as if, oh, you can't learn anything from a Muslim!

And I thought back at the time, and I mentioned it at the time, I remember the first months after I met with Elders Reid and Reiss in 1982. And after hours of conversation with them on a Monday and a Thursday had become so convicted that I simply wasn't able to communicate with them.

And even as I read Christian books, which were helpful in understanding Mormonism, I recognized the only way I was ever really going to be able to understand this religion was to read their best sources.

And so I obtained them. And I studied them. And I knew that I was probably the only person, certainly the only person in my church, big church, but still, I realized there weren't a lot of people who were doing this.

But I was convicted from the beginning that you must honor truth this way. You must honor God this way. And if you're going to show honor for the people you're trying to reach, you're to do this with gentleness and respect.

You have to know what they themselves believe. And if it's an entire religious group, then you need to know the best expressions of it. If you only prepare for the worst case scenarios, the uneducated level, then when the higher levels come along, you're going to end up looking like a fool and dishonoring the truth because you won't have answers to give.

And so that was a conviction that I have had now for over 40 years. And I am so thankful. I don't know really where it came from, to be honest with you. I didn't have a mentor to explain that to me, but that's just a conviction I came to early on, and none of you folks have given me any reason to question it whatsoever.

And so when you apply that to the subject of Islam,.

Then.

Really, we are doing something vitally important when we, for example, continue to respond to Muhammad Hijab. Because right now, we have the ability for this program to go out around the world. And I know that when, on this program, we seek to equip believers to deal with Islam, Unitarianism, Mormonism, Roman Catholicism, whatever, we're doing this around the world.

We're doing this to edify the saints around the world. And so we're pushing back, not with hatred, not with anger, but with an honest desire to speak the truth in love to the glory of God, the edification of God's people, and for the salvation of God's life.

And that means we need to focus upon.

Accurate.

Responses to the best the other side has to offer. And so that's what we're going to do for the rest of the program. We will press on with Muhammad Hijab's opening statement, assuming we did test this and it sounded fine, but I've been a sound man for a long time,.

So I know.

You can test. It doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work.

So,.

This was a debate. It was supposed to be on Trinity and Tawhid.

In my.

Experience, when you debate Trinity and Tawhid, it's going to be 98 on Trinity and 2 on Tawhid. And David Wood does, in his opening statement, seek to balance that out and say,.

No,.

Let me see here. Uh-oh.

Never mind.

Okay. When your watch says, Rich Pierce is sending you something and then it says, eh, never mind. You press on. But we are only at the very beginning of Muhammad Hijab's opening statement here, and so we only got a few minutes into it, and we're going to pick up at that point and hope that this.

Works.

There's no God beside me. I am your Lord and there's no God beside me. You find in Isaiah 43 verse 11, once again, the discussion of I am your God and besides me there is no Savior. Now, someone might argue, but the word Elohim, and this is the weakness of the argument.