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Well grings welcome to the divine line we are racking up the last few times we're gonna be here

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I'm not even sure that we're going to do another Program here. I don't think so.

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I'll probably be on the road and once again once we're on the road You've got to use the app

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To have any idea because I know for example Might be able to do one

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Tuesday. I want to get to Holbrook. We'll see Um, but it's just always you know, was there a road closure

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How long did it take you to get set up? You know did something spill in the unit you have to clean it's just all sorts of things gets in the way, so that's the only way to really know and Did I did drink something

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I shouldn't have yeah, um, and I know that on Wednesday, I think it is.

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I'm gonna be joining Chris Irons on iron sharpens iron and There's some folks

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I want to have on the program before The debate on the 16th and rich just handed me this hideous pile of of Cables that he says will actually allow me.

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Can I get something other than a 49 cent earpiece can we

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I'm looking I'm hitting Amazon I'm hitting Amazon and I'm gonna find something other than the 49 cent earpiece that we've used in here for years and years and years

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But this thing will allegedly allow me to have a fake mix -minus

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Which we don't know what mix -minus is I Cannot survive when you get an echo back from what you're saying

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Especially when it's like half a second behind you. It's just it's like I will give it up and So this allegedly will allow me to have guests.

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I still don't know how that's gonna work But we need to be able to develop that capacity so that I can have folks on the program and do some interviews while we're on the road and There's some folks.

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I want to have on before the debate because this could be a really important debate and You may not think it's all that important to debate you may think it's already a done deal but side

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B Christianity gay Christianity revoice revoice light making huge inroads into evangelical churches and This will be a an important encounter so That's coming up.

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Yeah. Yes, sir. Oh I was gonna just say what we're doing is we're tapping into the output from your laptop presume.

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It's that simple I know you guys are glazing over already. So is everybody else's zoom has a built -in mix -minus

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That's it. We're just taking advantage of that. Okay, so simple is that it's it

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You you want you want to go grab it so I can show folks how simple it is Yeah Like I said, it's a hideous pile of cables and we'll

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We'll see how that survives the trip as well. Anyway, so that's coming up next week.

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I leave on the 5th that is Tuesday and so we will have four weeks worth of On the road dividing lines and of course,

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I'll be at g3 we will be doing the pre -conference

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Interesting discussions, I'm sure gonna take place I guess there were people that were stunned.

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I don't know why I guess people don't necessarily listen to all the sweater vest dialogues There's stuff like that, but they were stunned by some of the stuff that I said on Twitter recently where I'm going

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No Look There there's a there's a citation that I and I've read

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I've read this citation over and over and over and over again

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Yeah, there it is And I and I I'm not saying that John Adams Was writing scripture

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John Adams might have been wrong, but I've never heard anyone make an argument that what he said was wrong

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John Adams one of the founding fathers And He was very much involved with the formation of the

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United States of America and in 1798 He said he wrote the following words

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While our country remains untainted with the principles and manners which are now producing desolation in so many parts of the world while she continues sincere and incapable insidious and impious policy

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We shall have the strongest reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned us by Providence but should the people of America once become capable of that deep simulation towards one another and towards foreign nations which assumes the language of justice and moderation while it is practicing iniquity and extravagance and Displays in the most captivating manner the charming pictures of candor frankness and sincerity while it is rioting and rapine and insolence

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This country will be the most miserable habitation in the world. I mean that Happened 80 years ago and has only gotten worse and worse and worse

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Because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion avarice

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How much are we in debt? Can we even keep track anymore? avarice ambition revenge and licentiousness

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People in this nation don't even know what licentiousness means Would break the strongest cords of our

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Constitution as a whale goes through a net our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.

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It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other It's a hard issue it is

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You you you cannot have any Form of government that respects human liberty and dignity when the people in the country don't understand

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What liberty and dignity are based on? you can't and So I I just I just said we're already in a post -constitution.

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I mean look look at every day now We have the two forms of the justice system

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You've got justice for Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton and BLM protesters,

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I mean they just threw the book and they're gonna imprison Pro -life demonstrators for breaking the face thing

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At the same time I think it's Denver is paying out 4 .7

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million dollars to BLM rioters who were arrested We clearly we are already at the point where you have

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The rules for the party and the rules so the people are not in the party. We're already there there's not a single one of the founding fathers that would look at what's going on today and Even recognize the connection between what they wrote and what's going on now.

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They wouldn't yes, sir I'm positive. I remember you saying that bring this up after Obergefell.

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Oh sure. All right, but I'm also Positive I've heard you say it numerous times maybe going back 10 years.

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You've cited that. Oh, yeah, we need to get that I mean Adams. Yeah, we need to get that little engine that we've just gotten built to go search that but I'm positive

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It's gonna go back at least 10 years That you've said that interestingly enough in Evernote The last date of editing

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This is somewhat useful Happens to be June 22nd 2015 That's right at the time of Obergefell.

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Yep. That's right. It's time for Obergefell. Yep yeah, so um so so I made some comments and basically said

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Look if you want to talk about Secular liberalism and the freedom that it grants look around you.

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I Look around. It's what is going on right now. Um Pivy resin in and I'm sure

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I'm Massacring that I make no claims to be able to read or speak

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Finnish But she has been I believe she was foreign secretary or something for the government at some point in time

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But she is on trial in Finland And I looked and looked and looked on it.

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I eventually I found There there there is there is the tweet

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That she is she is on trial for three things and this is one of the primary things

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This is a tweet that she posted in 2020 I think or was 2019 says 2019 so and it's in Finnish Okay, I had to look and look a look because it said that it was a most of it

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Most of the news articles especially from Europe wouldn't quote it They would not even quote what she said

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Because she's on trial for having said it But they said that there was an attached picture of Bible verses.

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Well, actually you don't expect Well, I'm not even call them journalists, they're not journalists that from the way

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I was taught what journalism is supposed to be there are Almost no journalists left in the world.

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All right But you look at this and it's obvious what it is. It's Romans 125 and 26

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Okay, so she's she's included. Maybe she took her phone out took a picture of her Finnish Bible Romans 125 26.

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Well, what did she say? I have it I used

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Google Translate Here's what it said The church has announced

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That is the official partner of SETA in pride 2019

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How does the doctrine of the church the Bible? Fit together with the fact that shame and sin are raised as a matter of pride

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She's on trial for saying that she's on trial and The prosecutor today

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Made the argument that it doesn't matter whether what she said is true

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It only matters whether it Insulted someone and so here's your democratic secular liberalism and it produces super minorities

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Now they could it does not produce it on the basis of any objective reality.

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And so these super minorities Could become despised by the state next year

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Okay, so so they only they are only super minorities as long as It's helpful to the regime.

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All right, so let's keep that in mind But you can create super minorities and again

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I'm surprised we haven't You know, maybe Chris did do do that, but I'm surprised we haven't searched on uber rights yet I thought maybe he did

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Yeah, I think I went back to 2000 or something like that right around that time period But nearly a quarter of a century.

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I've been saying Homosexuals do not want equal rights. They want uber rights. They want superior rights to everybody else and here you have it if their

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Feelings are hurt if they feel insulted you will pay for it

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This is This is what secular quote -unquote democratic liberalism will give you all the drag queen story hours all the abortion all the transgender insanity

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That is all around us. I mean, did you see Keith Olbermann? I mean, okay, this man went insane long long time ago

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I mean the man the man is truly Completely nuts. There's no question about it.

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I mean you want to see someone who's completely off the rocker But he responds to what's her the name of the swimmer who's taken?

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Right rightly gains. Yeah He responds to her and just basically says you were just a lousy swimmer you lost get over it

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Because she lost to a six -foot -seven guy And and this this is the insanity the childishness

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That is being produced because secular democratic liberalism

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Has no objective foundation or grounding So it's whatever it wants to morph into at any particular point in time

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That's why you have people literally who have created a religion out of the climate scam

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That they didn't care about five years ago They didn't but now it's the most important thing in the world

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And if they come up with something new that'll become the most important thing because there's no objective Reality that's connected to history facts

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Argumentation logic any of that kind of stuff. It's just whatever floats your boat and There you go.

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So we have someone literally on trial for asking how the church in Finland no, it's an apostate church.

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That's why It's a it's a church that cares nothing about the Bible We get that the state churches become apostate very very quickly

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That's the problem with sacralism That's why there in any discussions of quote -unquote Christian nationalism that has to be we have to look back and recognize that this has always been the case and If you're going to talk about the fact that look if you live in God's world

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Then you have to live according to God's rules. Okay, that's a given we can't have the myth of neutrality

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But how is that supposed to work out? It can only work out when you have a massive change in the hearts of the people within a particular

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Nationality nation whatever else it might be if you but if you have a nation Where God moves and the people say we want to do what

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God wants us to do We'd better be ready to tell them what that is And and I'm just telling you

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I was raised in a milieu and a mindset Where we would have if this if the governor of the of the state

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Had come to almost anybody that was a pastor in my experience and it said, you know what?

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I? am the leaders in the in the Legislature we want to do what's right before God We want to we want

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God's blessing, how do we do it? Complete deer in the headlights what?

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What that's not our role what? So I'm I'll be honest.

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I'm frustrated with people on both sides I'm frustrated with people on both sides that are lobbying by and I was saying this last night

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There are people lobbing bombs at g3 and there are people on the g3 side lobbing bombs the other direction and and people getting all

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Upset and you've accused me of this and you've accused me of that and I'm sitting back and Tom Buck Posted a tweet a couple days ago, and I retweeted it and he says

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I've got people I have friends on both on both sides of a lot of these issues and There was a day when you could actually have some kind of debate without getting out the pitchforks and and lighting the fires, but it really seems that social media has

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Destroyed that and obviously in our national conversation. There's no There's no place for any of that either.

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So it I guess we're just picking up on that kind of stuff But you know I had people who were they were listening to what

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I was saying and I'm talking about we you know We've been soaked in the myth of neutrality The the we live in God's world so God's rules are the only things that are gonna allow us to to prosper in this world and What's being done right now in the name of secularism is all gonna fall down on top of itself.

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It has no ability to last But it can create Massive and and may well

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I pray God doesn't allow it to happen But if it's as well, it may create the same kind of massive

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Hatred of life that the Soviet Union did certainly China's that way But man, wouldn't it be awesome if God?

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Changes hearts in China. I Mean what what an awesome thing. I've said more than once I would love to see

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China become the light That spreads across the earth. I'll be awesome.

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Are you saying God can't do that? I think there's a lot of people There's a lot of people whose theology does not allow for that at all.

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I can't do that. What do you mean? What and it's like hey if you're a Calvinist you can't sit there and say

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God can't do that you better believe you can You better believe you can So I'm just simply saying myth and neutrality

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You can't defend that as a Christian. You can't defend secularism secularism is an

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Antichrist philosophy and This is all gonna fall down on top of itself eventually and What are we gonna do then we don't want to be the deer in the headlights at that point

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We don't want to be the people going. Oh, you don't really know what to suggest You know, and I'm just confessing.

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That's what I was raised with I'm not there anymore, but that's what I was raised with so I had people saying

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Oh, well, I hope when you get the g3 you'll say this to this person that person. I'm just like No, actually,

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I'm gonna go to g3 and in the pre -conference there's gonna be some interesting conversation but it's gonna be respectful and Since it's face -to -face

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It'll probably be different than what we have on Twitter Which which may be going away for us anyways to be perfectly honest with you

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I've seen some really Disturbing and negative things going on on Twitter.

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I have to wonder if Investors haven't gotten to a certain Elon Musk But we will see anyway

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Because it's face to face with with with Bibles in hand It's going to be different and hopefully more helpful than what you have in In social media so You know,

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I'm I am thankful that God still has believing people in Finland But if you if you're a believer anywhere in the

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European Union You have a target on your forehead and that's coming for us just look over there to see what it's gonna look like how it's gonna happen you get these super minorities and Their feelings are all that matters your feelings don't no one could care less about your feelings you represent the old way

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But Super minorities and That way you you shut down the preaching the gospel you you get people that you we can't have people out

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Evangelizing in the streets and things like that Just just haven't just look at what's happening over there and you'll you'll see what's what's going on.

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So, um Connected to that I Mentioned to you.

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Let me see. Wait a minute. I had a bunch of stuff here Oh, yeah, I'm there two things connected the last program.

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Okay, let me get those two first then we'll jump into this Oh, so I've got it. Got a bunch of bunch of bunch of things In regards to Pope Francis and the last program remember we talked about what's going on there

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I Noted that AP news came out with an article yesterday that he is going to Update a 2015 encyclical,

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I'm not exactly sure how that works, but He's going to update 2015 encyclical on The environment now one thing we know absolutely for certain is

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That Pope Francis is sold out to all sorts of leftist leftist causes

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But he's he's sold out to Darwinism. He is sold out to a really fundamentally inconsistent worldview to most of all well,

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I'm not gonna say all but the vast majority of the post before him and He is an environmentalist and he buys into heat, you know during kovat.

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He was talking about Mother Earth's got a fever or whatever insanity.

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It was he said back then so Here's here's the question

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If he lacks the insight to be able to recognize The obvious reality

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That this is a fraudulent movement, I mean anybody who digs into it

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Finds The the number of altered data sets and Arbitrary beginning and ending points in graphs and You dig into how carbon dioxide actually works as far as it's it's tiny roll vast vast vast

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Majority is water vapor. Nothing you can do about that Got to keep the oceans around but carbon dioxide, it's plant food.

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It's actually It's almost frighteningly low right now in comparison to what plants actually need.

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It's been much higher in the past But after a certain number of parts per million around 400 420

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Its role in reflecting heat becomes irrelevant. You can double triple quadruple it.

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It doesn't make any difference China is not going to do anything the

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United States of America in committing a Internationally illegal act of blowing up the pipeline

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Released more carbon dioxide and methane and things into the atmosphere

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Then all of our cars combined for years would have ever produced a single

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Volcanic eruption anywhere could wipe out trillions of dollars of alleged carbon reduction.

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I Ordered something from Europe. I didn't know it was coming from Europe but I ordered something from Europe recently and I just happened in passing to look at the receipt and There is this whole section about carbon offset credits, which

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I'm sure I paid for in some way shape or form Utterly irrelevant China's not going to do it.

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India is not going to do it this is all just meant to destroy the West and and Pope Francis isn't bright enough to figure it out

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And now he's going to combine it with theology in a worldview that is not consistently biblical

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What do you do about that? To my Roman Catholic friends. What do you what do you do about that? How do you how do you handle that?

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Especially those of you who You recognize, you know, there are Roman Catholics that are well aware of At least at least that one

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Hindu Republican guy Yeah, he he was he was on somebody's show saying it's a scam and They were saying oh, but a

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UN Council says and he's like UN Council. Yeah You're gonna buy a used car from them.

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I'm not you know At least there's somebody out there saying this is just a bunch of baloney and there are

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Roman Catholics who recognizes a bunch of baloney What happens when your Pope buys into the baloney? Do you just do the yeah?

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Well, you know, he's not infallible about climate science stuff. What what happens when he makes it part of his theology?

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I'm just asking you I'm just asking you it's not out yet But I'm sure it's gonna be a humdinger and we'll we'll definitely take a look at it when it does come out

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From from good old Pope Francis now I mentioned at the end of I'm watching all the homeschoolers.

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There's a homeschooling place nearby us here and They just get busier and busier and and you know what?

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Watching Watching the videos that come out from pretty much every public school in the

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West Explains why they're getting busier and busier and that's a good thing.

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There's no two ways about it. I Pray for our homeschooling families, and I know it's not easy self -sacrificial, but If you love your kids, you're not gonna send them

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Into that that place anymore. I mean I I was public school raised but I'm now

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Almost as old as dirt. So it was a completely hey, you're older than I am well

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I'm not gonna make any comments at that point. Um, hey, I was just I was just at streets and The table in front of me was three guys.

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They're about 15 years older than us So listening to them talking about, you know, how to test for dementia stuff like that, it's just like One guy did have a 35 foot

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Yeah, Mitch McConnell One of them did have a 35 foot fifth wheel that he pulls

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I almost said something But I decided to keep my mouth shut. Anyway, what were we talking about? I don't know Old I was old person in stuff

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I'm not on the last program. I had this up. I haven't even moved it. I've left it on my secondary screen here.

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I Had it up for the last program. We just spent too much time on other stuff and Then lo and behold

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Al Mohler talks about this very tweet this morning on the briefing so I had it up first.

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I just didn't get to it first Part of is because I have read Some of you will

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Noah Harari's books And I've played some clips for you and I Think it's because of the uniqueness of the name.

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A lot of people don't Keep making the connections, but he's one of the W EF's big brains

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Israeli Jewish homosexual Atheist and He's a brilliant guy, he's obviously very and he knows that he's very very very very proud of his intellect

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But Here's what he tweeted on August 24th, so we could go from a biological perspective

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Nothing is unnatural. I suppose I can take this one down and and Right.

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It looks so good, but it does the Sometimes it does the pixelation thing and sometimes it doesn't but anyway from a biological perspective

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Nothing is unnatural whatever is possible is by definition also natural a

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Truly unnatural behavior one that goes against the laws of nature simply cannot exist. So it would need no prohibition now there is a

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Silly simplistic way in which you could go well okay, if you want to redefine terms in childish fashion then if you want to say unnatural and You're just going to be a materialist then

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What he's saying is that which is unnatural is that which goes against the laws of nature and he's defining that solely as Physical laws, so if I want to just levitate in the air, this would be an unnatural thing but I can't do it and so it's

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It's sort of what the materialist has to do. That's all he's got But he's clearly

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Connecting this outside of that to the claims that there are certain behaviors that are

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Unnatural and that's of course is what scripture teaches So in Romans 1 in talking about homosexuality and he is a homosexual you have

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Paul talking about that which is against nature and It's it's

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You know, you're By the way in passing, you know, you're not talking to a serious

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Person as far as their ability to think things through When someone goes, yeah, well

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Paul also said long hair is against nature So obviously he just means that in a cultural sense if you really think that that passing comment to the

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Corinthians Given certain backgrounds in Corinth is the same context as the general terminology we use in Greek syntax gnomic

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Context of Romans 1 where you're talking about all of mankind all of time all

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Cultures if you think those are the same context, you're not really thinking very clearly.

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You're not being serious Paul can talk about The issues of hair

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Which we talked a little bit on the open phones Segment is that thing gonna be useful in the open if we try to do phones?

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What if it would be? Okay. All right. I don't know how we're gonna do that because we we haven't done that.

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Have we yeah, we've got to find Yeah, you got it.

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Got it Got to make it fully functional. So Okay Huh, I trust you yeah trust you that I can run it from there by myself

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Uh -huh. Yeah. Yeah, that that's like when your voice starts coming through the computer over there and you're talking to your cat like What what's going on here?

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Anyway, sorry, we got distracted there You're you're you're not talking to someone who's thinking carefully about the contexts

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Of from Romans 1 and here Harari is Literally saying that there is there's nothing that can be an unnatural behavior as long as you can accomplish it and I'm just sitting there going so I mean we can think of all of the perversities of mankind from pedophilia bestiality necrophilia

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All of this kind of stuff and Since it can be done. That means it's natural and hence cannot be prohibited or shouldn't be prohibited but the

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Holocaust Happened too So was that natural? What what would prohibit it

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Harari who is also a transhumanist and He's the one saying, you know

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The next step of evolution is is joining with cybernetic implants and Transferring human consciousness to something other than a physical body

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So you never have to die and all this kind of stuff the stuff of science fiction movies that's his thing and We have to realize

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World views have consequences world views have consequences and This kind of thinking is the kind of thinking that when you allow totalitarians

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Mao Xi Jinping North Korea when you allow these types of Tyrants To grab hold of this type of thinking they can do anything

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They can do anything. What if China found a way? To ground all of our nuclear missiles, but nuke us with all theirs

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Why not? Why not do it I mean

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Simplest way to do that is I think they've already bought off most of our leadership. Anyways, I mean, it's it's astonishing

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I live to Watergate and I was interested in Watergate. You know, why I was interested in Watergate. I've never shown it

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It's around or did I they show it on the program once I I did.

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Okay. I got a letter from Richard Nixon Okay when I was In like first grade

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I wrote a letter to the president. I I think it may have been a part of a school assignment. I don't recall

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But I watched the CBS Evening News Walter Cronkite you know and I wrote a letter about the

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Ho Chi Minh Trail and What was going on with all that controversy of going, you know crossing borders and all that kind of stuff and I got a letter back from the president and My parents put it in a frame and I think it's in I think it's in my office

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If it's not it's no place else because my parents are gone so should be in the office somewhere so when he resigned

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I Was just crushed I really was and When I when

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I think of the things he was accused of that he just immediately, you know very very quickly resigned over and then

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I look at what's going on with Biden today and And the corruption and the money and the it's just so and the fact that our people had this

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Information for years and years and years and covered it all up. It makes the Nixon stuff look like Childs and yet that's where we are.

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That's how far we've fallen into degradation in this nation. And so I I If the if the

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Chinese invade Taiwan, we're gonna sit here and go. Thank you. Hope we can get semiconductors from someplace, you know

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Because anybody who would want to anything about it, I think they've already been paid off Anyways, it's certain obvious to me that back when

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Biden still had his mind, which he doesn't any longer Obviously now there's Mitch McConnell.

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Now, there's Dianne Feinstein Now there's Nancy Pelosi. Now there's Federman All these people if they had the slightest bit of integrity would step down immediately

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Immediately, but they won't because it's a vote. I mean, it's literally weekend at Bernie's It's weekend.

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Yeah, it's weekend at Bernie's in the in in the Senate and the House of Representatives That's that's where we are and the

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White House. Yeah, just prop them up, you know, just prop that it's Yeah, yeah

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That's what it is. I vote. Yes Sad sad sad sad.

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Okay. Um, here's the next one real quick Yep And I don't know if this one will do the same thing.

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Reverend. Dr. Jackie Lewis boy. Is she a Fascinating one check this one out

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Parents do not own their children kids are people not things They have a right to privacy about their sexuality and gender identity

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To choose when and to whom they share those intimate details about their life Here is the very face and voice of evil

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It is evil For someone to say it is evil to sexualize children.

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It is evil to remove them from the Natural God -ordained position of being dependent upon their parents now there's a whole lot of evil going on because Every parent that takes their kid to a gay pride parade or a drag queen story hour should be flogged

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Okay, there's a lot of that going on too, but the fact the matter is to The the natural end point of this absurdity is what you see in Brave new world and that is the state produces children

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The state determines the A's and the B's and the C's and the D's and the

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E's Because that could be done That technology if you remember the story that technology of producing

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Dumb workers They only have the intellectual capacity to do the job assigned to them, but they don't have the intellectual capacity to want anymore

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To do that in vitro that already exists sadly It didn't back when it was written, but you know these people sort of saw stuff coming anyway

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This is the natural end result of Of This destruction of the the nuclear family this mockery of father and mother this assertion that children

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Little children have some idea of their gender identity. I'm sorry.

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I Cannot show the slightest respect for an adult that thinks that a five -year -old can determine their gender identity

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You are a moron You deserve no respect whatsoever you you have the

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IQ of what shoelace you truly do you are a moral pygmy I Cannot respect someone like that and I don't understand how anybody good.

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Well, there's a Christian Richard. No, you shouldn't No, you shouldn't there are times when you need to go

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Elijah and there's one of them. Okay Anyway End result this foolishness from foolish people like Reverend.

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Dr. Jackie Lewis is the state taking over all of that and Believe you me.

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We've got people in the state that would be more than happy to do that Okay, next one we're having fun here

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We are enjoying ourselves and moving along at warp speed Everybody saw this one yesterday boy this one hit

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This year's mrs. America winner Hannah Nieleman is the homeschooling mother of seven kids

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Some people go whoa and I just go welcome to apology All there is to it seven only seven really

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We've got we've got one lady. Who's either did she just give birth or she? Can't keep track anymore

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Looking at 11. Yeah, we got a couple families. I think an apology

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Mother has seven kids who lives on a farm with her family in Utah. Hmm When judges asked this

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Christian mother when she When had she felt the most empowered this was her answer

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I have felt this feeling seven times now as I bring these sacred souls to the earth

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After I hold that newborn baby in my arms the feeling of motherhood and bringing them to the earth is

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The most empowering feeling I have ever felt now I am

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I am thankful for Families with seven kids even in Utah, but folks you got to understand something.

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She's a Mormon now whether she is a What are you doing there find the right button there buddy, there you go, but I you know,

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I could have done that one yeah You know, I don't don't

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I wouldn't have done that if I've been doing that in the RV so I just just saying anyway

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She's a Mormon now whether she's a part of a polygamist group or what? I don't know But she's in Utah, and I'm sorry

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When you talk about bringing sacred souls to the earth

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There's a lot of us who know exactly what she's talking. I saw people go. Well, you can't know for sure

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I'm just like oh boy night even say and So many

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I don't know if you saw this I bet you didn't Delano Squires Linked to the

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Cartoon from God makers from the 80s and A lot of people were like I've never heard that before and I'm like, oh

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Our work has been wasted It hasn't been but Let me just let me just remind everybody

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Of a fundamental reality here, okay Let me Okay, uh, oh

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No, that's not gonna work It popped it over onto the screen, which is not what

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I want to do and I don't have time to fight with it in here So I'll do it this way and take the format out that's close we're gonna get let me remind you of Absolute fundamental

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LDS doctrine, okay Not gonna give as much the background as I normally do this is from Achieving a celestial marriage student manual copyright in 1992 by the corporation the president church

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Jesus Christ Latter -day Saints. So This is official LDS teaching written by the church

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To be taught to all the people who are going to be married in the LDS temple

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All right, and copyright 1992 sounds like a long time ago 30 years shouldn't be a long time ago and it was used for years after this

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So it's much more contemporaneous than that. It is no longer being used, but it was and it was written by The corporation the president of the church

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Jesus Christ Latter -day Saints doesn't get any more official than that All right so This is clearly the theologians behind What the young lady was saying?

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all right, and This is what people need understand. You need to have an accurate understanding of What Mormonism has taught so that for if for no other reason than in conversations of Mormons you can recognize

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How many Mormons no longer believe or understand what their church has taught all along? because these things are being de -emphasized now not obviously in the backwoods,

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Utah and That's why I was saying, you know there are polygamous groups and things like that and You'll get you'll get more old -style

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Mormons in the backwoods, Utah than you will in Sacramento or something like that. Okay? But let's run through this pages four and five, which means this is not back toward the end someplace in an appendix

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This is where they start you God was once a man who by obedience advanced to his present state of perfection

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Through obedience and celestial marriage we may progress the point where we become like God Proclaiming the divine potential within man

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John Taylor once wrote knowest thou not that thou art a spark of deity struck from the fire of his eternal blaze and brought forth in the midst of everlasting burnings the

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Mormon August 29th 1857 elder BH Roberts stated man has descended from God in Fact he is the same race as the gods

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His descent has not been from a lower form of life But from the highest form of life in other words man is in the most literal sense a child of God This is not only true of the spirit of man, but of his body also

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Can you see the implications of these two statements as they relate to you and your eternal destiny elder James E. Talmadge did

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He declared in his mortal condition man is God in embryo However any individual now immortal being may attain attained the rank and sanctity of God ship

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How is this possible? What course of action will bring this potential to fruition as you study this lesson look for the answers to these questions?

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and then you have Subtitle points to ponder God became God by obedience to law listen to that don't let it skip past you

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God became God By obedience to law God's not eternal has not eternally been

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God But the law is where to come from they can't tell you There is an absolute fundamental inborn incoherence to the entire

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Mormon worldview And that's because Joseph Smith just didn't think all these things through and then got himself murdered in the

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Carthage jail before he could It was late afternoon as we sat in my office, but I felt the time had been well spent

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He sat silently now obviously contemplating the ramifications of the things we had been discussing we had talked of God of how he had become

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God and Of what that meant in terms of our own exaltation finally he spoke so the yellow italics is the

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Young Mormon speaking to the older Mormon, which is in white What is this law of exaltation of which you keep speaking?

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Well it involves the whole of the gospel law everything required of us by God is associated with this law

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But the major crowning point of the law which man must obey is eternal marriage Therein lies the keys of eternal life or as the

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Doctrine and Covenants puts it eternal lives In other words an eternal increase of posterity now right here most

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Christians Just go what on earth are you babbling about? You just took a left -hand turn, and I have no idea what you're talking about and that's why most conversations with knowledgeable Mormons Become very difficult for most

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Christians because they don't know That Mormonism is as far from Christianity as any religion ever could be it is the most polytheistic religion that man has ever imagined more than Hinduism Mormonism believes in an unlimited number of gods and God Men and angels are all the same species just at different levels of exaltation

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So the most fundamental foundational issues complete difference complete difference, and so you can

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Doctrine and Covenants can take eternal life that means something to us and talk about eternal lives the power of God in Mormonism is the power of priesthood and procreation

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Priesthood and procreation There used to be Mormons that were really blunt about that people like Bruce R.

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McConkie, but they're not nearly as common these days But notice how it defines it in other words an eternal increase of posterity.

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That's offspring Okay Then what you're saying is that God became

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God by obedience to the gospel program which culminates in eternal marriage sub point Your obedience to law we can become like our father in heaven

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Yes, do you realize the implications of this doctrine as far as you are concerned? I think so if God became

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God By obedience to all the gospel law with the crowding point being the celestial law of marriage

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Then that's the only way I can become a God Right, and it is the law that assists us in reaching that potential

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It tells us what we must do to gain the ultimate freedom In fact, it is by obedience to law that we have progressed to our present position

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You mean we have always been governed by law now. I always stop at this point and say this short paragraph is

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In my opinion one of the most helpful Statements of the fundamental difference between Mormonism and Christianity that I've ever read and it's only

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Well, it's one word and two sentences always

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You are an eternal being you were never created and You cannot be destroyed

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But you can advance progress and develop by obedience Now I I want you to hear that you are an eternal being you were never created

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Okay, that is an absolute denial of fundamental foundational biblical categories of religious

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You cannot take a position that says that and Connect it in any meaningful fashion to the

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Christian faith you can't Then Hamlet's question to be or not to be is not the question right not in the ultimate sense at least

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Order means law and that law is the law of the celestial kingdom any who come under that kingdom must obey that law

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But I thought godhood meant freedom if I have to do things to become God. Am I really free?

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You've got it wrong. It was the Savior who said if you continue my word that is obey the law You Shall know the truth and truth shall make you free

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So by obedience to law we learn truths by which we become free but not free from the law.

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Can you see that? I Think so. I can be a god only if I act like God Exactly, right.

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Can you imagine the state of the universe if imperfect now, here we go Can you imagine the state of the universe if imperfect gods?

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were allowed to spawn their imperfections throughout space

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If beings who did not have law under their subjection were free to create worlds. So here you have space gods from Kolob You you have in in Mormon theology

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Elohim God the Father. That's not what was for Joseph Smith, but not worry about that right now Elohim God the

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Father Lives on a planet the circles a star named Kolob and he has as many wives

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He has a body of flesh and bones with no blood and He engages in endless celestial sex with his wives producing billions of spirit offspring and Those spirit offspring.

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That's the increase in posterity mentioned earlier those spirit offspring in Mormon theology a woman

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Does not have the priesthood her resurrection is dependent upon her husband's exercise of his priesthood authority

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It leads to a really ugly dynamic and Not only in this life then her privilege empowerment as the lady said her empowerment is that They as a couple have the opportunity and this is why

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Mormonism was a polygamous faith And these days could become it again if they wanted to given what's going on I mean a burger fell kicked the door open for that one

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But they don't want to they're scared to death of that Her empowerment is that their duty is to provide physical bodies here on this earth

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For all the billions of spirit children who are still waiting to get their opportunity to enter into the mortal probation

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So they can begin their progression to godhood. That's what she's talking about with sacred souls sacred spirits being brought to earth

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That's her role and then if she's a faithful Mormon woman she gets sealed to her husband for time and eternity

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They go and organize their own planet and start all over again. And then she the way

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I put before Never gets to see her feet again Because she will now be eternally pregnant having spirit babies

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And you would think a spirit baby wouldn't make you big but they do they do so You want a patriarchal system?

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Yeah You wonder why there's problems at BYU these days, okay, I Continue on.

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Hey, um, I guess that'd be pretty disastrous But I'm not sure I see why celestial marriage becomes the crowning

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Apex this progression marriage doesn't seem directly related to the creation of the universe says plural universe is not one.

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Oh But don't be limited by your mortal perspective. God himself has declared his own reasons for existing

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Remember he said for this is my work in my glory I see his purpose is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal eternal life of man

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Moses 139 again further example of how utterly unchristian

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Mormonism is God's reason for existing is wrapped up in man. Why because he's an exalted man

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He's an exalted man Totally different than the than anything you find in in Scripture, which involves giving birth to spirit children

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And Setting them on the road to exaltation. There you go. That's what the lady's doing and if that is to be done, you must have an exalted man and an exalted woman

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Oh No, I Honestly wonder if one of the reasons that this is no longer being used.

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This wouldn't be popular BYU anymore because they've got Homosexual groups and transgender groups and there's your gender binary right there

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And that's why I was just I'm just stunned that the majority of the people on the

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Salt Lake City Council now are LGBTQ Mormonism is collapsing on this stuff now

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Part of it was I just went. Hey, they have a physical God That has sex as wives.

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I mean maleness and femaleness is Fundamental to the

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Mormon idea of God So I figured the last people Hunkering down in their bunkers in Utah Holding on would be the

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Mormons But I should have known That doesn't matter. You have to have an objective foundation for that and they don't have an objective foundation.

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So It's coming apart Exactly an exalted man and woman who have been joined together in eternal marriage

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If this man and woman were obedient to all gospel laws except celestial marriage, what would be the result? They still could not be gods now.

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I understand celestial marriage is the crowning ordinance of the gospel Something that no apostle or prophet ever thought of is the crowning ordinance of the gospel, right?

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I said with a smile with that comment. I think we can end the discussion. So there you go They're from an official

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LDS source Give you some background to what was going on with all that stuff in regards to The homeschooling lady and her bringing sacred souls sacred spirits to to earth and That is not a

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Christian belief and hopefully that'll help you to explain to people why it isn't still got one more topic to go Sorry What so a quick update a couple of things?

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I can't avoid the idea that she is probably got seven choice spirits there and The other thing is a little program update the first time that you mentioned uber rights according to Our new let's church engine

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It was September 11th 2003 Really? Yep.

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Yep. That's I mean We're back real close to the publishing of the same -sex controversy,

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I would think I mean, yeah You saw it then. I did but I thought

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I thought I was even before then but There you go, uh

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Appreciate that. Okay fairly quickly here. I just want to Soteriology 101 tweet here

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Um Here here's a and we've addressed this over and over again

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That's why I'm not gonna you know I didn't go into the big studio and put it all back up because we've done it a thousand times before They're not listening.

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That's not their final authority but for others Why does the father give someone to his son?

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Why does the father give someone to his son? They list he lists two

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Possibilities a it's a mystery. No one except God knows why he chooses to give one of the Sun rather than another

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Calvinist answer Yeah, in other words, it's God's absolute freedom But they can't have that they simply they can't allow that that's that's that That's God's sovereignty.

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They don't have a sovereign God. This is a very man -centered system. So you can't have that so be

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The father gives all who listen and learn from the father to his son So they will all come to the only one who can save them

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John 645 Now briefly some of you will remember that Back when we responded to Norman Geisler and the chosen but free

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We point out that what dr. Geisler did with John 6 and this is what everybody has to Synergists can not walk through John 6 from beginning to end

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Utilizing the same or not hermeneutical methodology. They can't do it. And every time we engage them on it, they prove it for us as You are here.

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What did Geisler do when Geisler looked up at John 6?

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37 all the father gives him will come to me when it comes to me. I'll never cast out What he did is he jumped down to John 640 but this is well my father that everyone who sees the

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Sun and believes in him will have eternal life and I myself raise him up in the last day and So he take he go he jumps down in the argument reads a freewill interpretation to that and Then rereads what came before in light of what hasn't actually come yet to get rid of the fact that the flow is

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God gives all he gives comes This is the result of their coming.

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This is what coming looks like Etc, etc. So we point out then

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This is standing the text on its head. This is not how you deal with Resurrection is not how you deal with with any of the key doctrines of Scripture the

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Trinity deed of Christ This is not the kind of hermeneutics that dr. Geisler would use in any of those places

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But he has to use it here because this is his tradition Synergism is a human tradition

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Well, that's exactly now we have in this tweet from soteriology 101

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You go to John 644 no one can come to me unless the father sent me draws him and I'll raise him up on the last day and We've pointed this out before we've talked about this over and over again, but briefly let's do it again

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Verse 45 is a continuation But it comes after all the rest is you've already had the assertion

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That the reason anyone comes to the Sun is because they've been given by the father

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All that the father gives me will come to me Layton flowers does not believe that He will not believe that in context

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Because that is not a synergistic. You can't fit that into a synergistic system without redefining all the words

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And so what he does is okay, so who comes Who does the father give to the

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Sun? Well, it is written the prophets They shall all be taught by God everyone who has heard and learned from the father comes to me

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So instead of doing what you do with any other doctrine Anything in the

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Trinity the deity of Christ who the Holy Spirit is the doctrine of the resurrection all these other things

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We would be in agreement as to how to do hermeneutics, but not here So instead of going oh, wait a minute, okay

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We The term comes to me has already Occurred in this in this section.

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It was up in verse 37 and It was said all the father gives me will come to me

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But the sinner just believes that man makes a decision to come to Christ that's the first decision it's not the result of The father giving to the

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Sun so They want to go. Oh see the father gives all who listen and learn from the father to his son

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So you get to the end of all these things the end of everything that the father's done and the End of everything that the

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Sun does and you get to the end it's a description of what it means to be drawn to the

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Sun and You fill it with synergistic Human autonomy and now read it backwards into everything it came before it is eisegesis on steroids

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But you have to do it because sinner just don't believe what Jesus said

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They have their own Philosophy their own tradition and they will do whatever they have to do to get around it

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So You look at verse 45 Everyone who has heard and learned from the father comes to me

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Oh that means that they had the the autonomous ability to hear and to learn and they choose to do so and so they come to him and that's why the father then gives them to The Sun turn the entire text on its head

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Upside down backwards and they don't even blush while doing it. They don't even blush while doing it.

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That's the amazing thing But here's the thing it is written in the prophets

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Pontus Didactoi they you they shall all be taught by God Now here is where All respect

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But I do not believe That latent flowers is Greek capable.

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I just don't I may have taken a class or something, but there's a vast difference between taking basic Greek and Actually being

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Greek capable and I think he knows I think he knows he'll read other people and he can read their commentaries, but he's not capable and while the reason one of the impacts of that is

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There are actions in Greek That we translate in English in a more passive sense

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They shall be taught by God. Whereas teaching is an action that God is doing and the point is when it says

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No one could come to me unless the father sent me draws him and I'll raise him up in the last day It is written in the prophets.

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So now Jesus is saying here's where this this has been revealed beforehand You want to see

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Old Testament foundation for this? He then gives us a citation and I'll pop up the stuff here so you can

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See it he then gives citation and This specific

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One from Isaiah 54 Jeremiah 31 probably conflation. They shall all be taught by God They shall be taught by God.

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Who's the all? What what why is verse 45 here

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What what's its relationship? To what came before? He's saying don't be surprised what

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I'm telling you, you know, it says stop grumbling among yourselves They shall all be taught by God who those the father gives the son

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That's the drawing Who does the drawing the father?

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So he draws and We've already proven and this isn't even disputable

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No matter how many times Layton feigns. I don't know why he's emphasizing this

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The one who is drawn is raised up by the son

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All that are drawn are raised up. There is a specific people given by the father to the son and That is they are chosen by God and what they've got to do is

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I oh we can't get around that So we'll have to say that God chose based upon something else they shall all be taught by God is the description from the prophets of what drawing means and So what happens in the drawing is that they hear ha a kusas the one hearing from the father and learning and And they have to go see everybody has that ability right after Jesus says no one can come to me unless the father sent me draws him and there's the drawing and If you can say he draws everybody you're a universalist

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You're stuck. There is no way out of this without engaging in just glaring

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Scripture twisting and that's what you've got right here Glaring scripture twister so Everyone who has heard and learned from the father.

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What does that mean? What's the only meaning for that in this context? Drawing of the father all the father gives me will come to me

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Watch out for those who are so desperate To find a little crack to put the autonomous will of man in to control

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God's grace They will do anything They will do anything to find a way to do it and look you can't stop them

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You can you can point out the inconsistency you can the best you can do is you can just keep demonstrating that hey

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This is this is not how they would interpret anything else, but It is man's last bastion.

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It's man's pride The man's pride will find a way It's um, it's an amazing thing.

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So there you go boy. Did we cover a lot of stuff today? I'm gonna have a hard time remembering to type up the

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Because I was stupid enough to close a couple of those windows. Oh, well We'll do our best to type it up for the blog.

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Like I said, probably Wednesday of next week if we can do it

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Wednesday, it'll it would probably be after Iron Sharpens Iron Because I've got to get to Albuquerque and get set up do

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Iron Sharpens Iron and then we'll try to find a way to do the program after that and I'll bet you something interesting will happen between now and then then again, maybe not