Matt Slick Live: August 13, 2024

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Show Introduction and Listener Call-In Information

All right, everyone, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick. You're listening to Matt Slick Live. So if you want to give me a call, as always, the number is 877 -207 -2276. And if you want, you can email me at info at karm .org, info at karm .org, c-a-r-m-dot-o-r-g.

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So I've been doing this for over 40 years. I love teaching on the Bible, love doing it, and it's a lot of fun. All right. Let's see, we've got a caller coming in. We've got two callers coming in. That's Mui Gudo.

I have a friend here who's staying with us for a few days. He speaks Spanish, and so every now and then we'll, you know, say something in Spanish to each other. And so I say to him, Mui Gudo, that's advanced Spanish.

He gets a kick out of it. Anyway, there you go. All right. Why don't we just jump on the air here with, let's see, Ebenezer.

From California. Ebenezer, welcome. You're on the air. Hey. Hey, Matt. Yeah, I was just wondering if you could break down, you know, Hebrews 12, how it talks about we are encompassed with a great cloud of witnesses.

Yeah, I just have a hard time understanding what that passage is. All right. So.

In Hebrews 12, one says we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us. Let us also lay aside every encumbrance. Now, if you think of the word cloud, when Jesus was transfigured, there was a cloud.

When Moses went up to the mount, there was a cloud. God would dwell in the cloud sometimes. It was move. So it's interesting that the writer of Hebrews, which I think was Paul, said a cloud of witnesses.

Usually the cloud there is associated with the presence of God. So a cloud of witnesses surrounding us. Now, some people say, well, that means that they can all watch us and see us. Well, it doesn't say that.

The terminology that he's using is a metaphor trying to explain things, a little bit of a poetic kind of a thing. Anyway, he says, lay aside every encumbrance and sin, which so easily entangles us and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us.

You know, get busy being a Christian, get busy living as a Christian. That's what he's basically saying there. We've got to do that, you know, do what you got to do and live as a good, strong Christian, fixing our eyes on Jesus.

Now, I don't know how far you want me to go into the text,.

But I can go further if you want. I mean, just that first part, because I talked to a lot of Catholics and they bring up that passage when they talk about intercession for the saints. The one in particular I was talking to you, I was like, you got to be taking that out of context.

Well, no, they're reading into it. You see, the Catholics are loyal to their church, not Jesus, and they are loyal to the true church. They're going to look for anything in Scripture that can be twisted to support their teachings.

So this is one of the places, a great cloud of witnesses surrounding us. So you could do this with a Catholic. You could say, okay, so this means that they can hear us? Does this mean they're watching us?

Is that what it means? How do you know when it says a great cloud of witnesses? Are they a cloud? Well, a cloud encompasses you. Well, a cloud can be up in the air. See, there you go, Matt. Of course, a cloud could be over there and over here, but it says surrounding us.

Does that mean it's a doughnut cloud? What does it mean? If it's surrounding us, does it mean it's on the ground with us? What does it mean? You start asking these questions like this, and then pretty quickly you find out that they don't know how to answer them, because what they're doing is saying a cloud of witnesses means that they can see and hear everything we do.

It doesn't say that. Let's just say, what I'll do is I'll say, okay, let's just assume that you're going to be telling us that your position here is that the cloud of witnesses, so all these thousands and thousands and thousands and even millions of people, the witnesses, the people who have this witnesses, and they'll go, yeah, yeah.

Can they all hear us? Yes. Does each one hear everybody? Does each one person hearing millions of people simultaneously? Is that what you're saying? You just go on and you work with them. After a while, you find out that they don't even know what they believe.

They're just being, they're just regurgitating what they've been told, and just this means this. It means they can hear us and say, really? So how do you know that from that? How do you know that's what it says?

How do you know that's what it means? And if it does, are you saying they could hear millions of people simultaneously? Say the characteristics of God now? What are you doing? You see? Okay, yeah. All.

Right. No problem. All right. All right. Now I know how to help. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

All right, man. All right. God bless. Okay. That was Ebenezer from People's Republic of California. Let's get to Jan from North Carolina. Jan, welcome. You're on the air.

Hello. How are you doing? Doing well, by God's grace. Thank you very much. I was wondering, I've always been a Southern Baptist, and recently I started going to another church that's the Free Will Baptist Church.

It's very close to my home, and I did not know the differences. I really had not really realized there was a difference, and I just kind of was wondering, is there a big difference between the Southern and the Free Will Baptist, or what is the difference?

Well, I mean, what is the difference of belief, I guess? Yeah, the Free Will Baptists are even.

More Baptist than Baptists. That's what they might say. Okay. So they will affirm, baptism is only for adults who have confessed Christ, and then it must be by immersion. That's what they're going to say, and that's basically with the Baptist church as well.

All right. This is good. They're both going to say the Bible is the sole authority of faith and practice. That's very good. Now, what they're going to say is that Jesus died for everybody who ever lived, and that salvation is dependent on individual faith.

Now, personally, I don't believe Jesus died for everybody who ever lived. Now, we can talk about that if you want. That's Presbyterianism, which is within orthodoxy, as is the Baptist church, but they say this is where we get into some real problems.

Salvation is dependent on individual faith. Well, that's true, but what they also say is that everybody has the free will choice, as they are, to be able to.

Accept or reject God's offer of salvation, and that is simply not true. And the Baptists are more that it's predestined that God is destined some people to be saved and some not? Yes. So you can.

Have reformed Baptists, and you can have a reformed Presbyterian. So I'm a reformed Presbyterian, and I know some guys who are reformed Baptists, and that's fine. We don't argue. It's like, hey, we all believe in everything and the same thing, except for a couple of minor things.

As a mentalist, I might believe it if a baptism, but not for salvation was a covenant sign, a continuation of the Abrahamic covenant. It's a theological thing dealing with fine-tuning stuff.

You don't have to worry about anything. It's not a big deal. Is there a downside to the free will.

As opposed to the rest? Yes. It's not biblical. The idea that any individual is simply able of his own free will to be able to receive or not receive Christ is not biblical. It's commonly.

Taught. Explain it to me. The biblical position is that the unbeliever is a slave of sin,.

Romans 6, 14 through 20, a hater of God who does no good, Romans 3, 10, 11, and 12. He's by nature a child of wrath, Ephesians 2, 3. His heart is desperately wicked and deceitful, Jeremiah 17, 9. He cannot receive spiritual things, 1 Corinthians 2, 14.

He cannot.

Is that because he will not or there's no redemption for that?

No, he says it cannot. He says he cannot. So the unbeliever does not have the capacity of his own free will to believe in Christ because he's a slave of sin, a hater of God. This is why the Bible says that God grants that they have faith, Philippians 1, 29, and that our faith is in Christ.

That's the work of God, John 6, 28, 29. As many as had been appointed to eternal life believed, Acts 13, 48. So what I'm trying to show you, and there's another verse, John 6, 65, Jesus says, you cannot come to me unless it's granted to you from the Father.

So let's use that latter verse. The whole denominations base their theology on the idea of human free will. And the reason they do is because they decide how free God has to be and how free we have to be.

So they're going to say the only way for God to be right and fair is if it's up to us to decide. He just gives us a free will choice. That's humanist philosophy. It's humanist philosophy that's in the Christian church.

The Bible doesn't teach that. The Bible teaches that God grants that we have faith. And like I said, Jesus says in John 6, 65, that you cannot come to me unless it's granted to you from the Father. Now I talk to free willers all the time and I show them this and they don't know what to.

Do with it. And I say, here's some other verses. I've been going to this church for almost eight months and then I realized it was a free will. I didn't even know, I mean, I didn't know there was a difference.

I've been baptized in the Southern Baptist Church until I was thinking to myself, what have I done the right thing here? They're Christians. They're absolutely.

Christians. They love the Lord. You know, no problem. It's just that they have the mistake of thinking that our salvation is completely and totally dependent upon what we do in our wisdom and our free will.

That's not biblical. So I argue with this with people about this all the time. It's why I'm so familiar with this because humanist philosophy...

You know, I even asked the deacon in our church and I asked the preachers and I didn't get that clear of an answer from them. So I wasn't sure what was going on. The answer was a little cloudy and it didn't become evident.

It's because their theology is not very clear. And also because they're trying to justify their position, I would imagine, right?

Yes. Now here's a principle you've got to understand. What people do repeatedly is develop a certain, this is what must be true, this is what must be not true, this is what must be moral, out of their own senses, and then they hold God to it.

It happens all the time. They'll say, in order for God to be fair, we have to have free will choice. When people tell me that, I say, show me that in the scripture.

Yeah, I don't see that. Old Testament doesn't seem to conform to that at all, actually.

You know, God chooses what he wants and whom he wants. And I didn't like this initially, but that's just what it says. And I debated it frequently. And I know the topic well. And they can't win because the Bible doesn't teach their position.

I just quote them scripture.

And that's just what it says. And I've read that scripture, and that's why I decided to call, because the more I go, the more I hear, I had to learn.

Good. Well, hold on, we've got a break, okay? So if you want to hold on.

I'm going to hang up, but I appreciate you. Thank you, sir.

All right. Well, God bless. Okay, thanks. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. We'll get to Luke, then Albert. I'll be right back.

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Divine Counsel, Psalm 82, and the Meaning of Deuteronomy 32

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Luke, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. How you doing? Doing all right, man. Hanging in there, buddy. What do you got?

Great. Yes, my question is on Michael Heiser. I've been reading some of his stuff, and I know that there's certainly some things that you and I would disagree with on him, such as his soteriology. With that said, what are some thoughts on his divine counsel teaching, as well as like the Deuteronomy 32 worldview?

What are some thoughts?

Well, the divine counsel thing is a real problem that he's come up with, and I wish he would just stop it and go away. All right. So let me explain something. This is Psalm 82. So God takes his stand.

Let's see. Get this right here. All right. So God takes his stand. In his own congregation, he judges in the midst of the rulers. How long will you judge unjustly? In the midst of the rulers, the word there is Elohim, in the midst of God.

So therefore, Heiser has stated the idea of a council of gods, or those who are called God, but not necessarily the divine God. I've gotten different views on it. And that there's some hierarchical, well, let's see how to put this, divine counsel that's up there that share in some divine qualities.

All right? Sure. Okay. And that needs to be put in the trash can where it belongs. All right. Flat out. And I'll explain why. Okay.

Based off of this chapter or based off of overall scriptures teaching?

Scriptures. Okay. I'm going to show you. Watch this. Isaiah 43 .10. You are my witnesses, declares Yahweh, and my servant whom I have chosen so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he.

Before me, there was no God, no Elohim formed. There will be none after me. There aren't any. That's what God himself says. He identifies himself as Yahweh. He says, before me, there is no God formed, and there will be none after me.

All right. Okay. All right.

Well, I know many scholars...

What?

Oh, sorry. I was just going to say, I know many scholars say that this would interpret as there's no God like Yahweh. And certainly you see a narrative throughout the Old Testament where consistently over and over again, you know, yelling at Israel and other nations for serving other gods.

So I'm going to show you something, okay? I'm going to go someplace here. I'm going to go to Genesis 3. I'm going to show you a principle. Now, the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field.

And he said to the woman, has God said, you shall not eat from any tree of the garden. What God had said to Adam was don't eat of the tree. The woman said, well, we can't do this. We can't do that. You shall not eat from it or touch it.

She added the words or touch it. It's a slight alteration for clarification. That's all it was. It's like saying, well, God doesn't know what words need to be there. We need to help him out because we have to tell him what it means, not God.

So let's go back to Isaiah 43 .10. You're my witnesses, declares Yahweh, my servant whom I have chosen. There's none like me. That's not what he said. Let's just change the wording just a little bit. And that way we can get it to say what we want it to say.

He says, there was before me, there was no God formed. There will be none after me. What God says, Isaiah 43 .10. Let's go to Isaiah 43 or 44 .6. Okay. Thus says Yahweh, the king of Israel and his redeemer, Yahweh of hosts.

I am the first and I am the last. And there is no God, no Elohim besides me. None. You know what the Mormons do with this? That means of this world. They add that. They just add the words. It means of this world.

Let's know what it says.

So who is the... Go ahead. So who's... While we're in Isaiah, I'll stay there, right? I won't go to another book, but how about like, for example, Isaiah 34 .1 -4, clearly God is enraged against, not people, but it seems to be the hosts, lowercase g,.

Seems like in verse, I believe it's 2. Well, Isaiah 34, the Lord's indignation is against all nations. Okay. And that's... So if you get verse 2, for the Lord is the rich against all.

The nations. That's still context of people, but he seems to switch here. And the furious, furious against all their hosts. Who are the hosts there in this context?

Well, it doesn't say that. His wrath against all their armies. Okay. Okay. So I think... What translation are you using?

The original Hebrew. I'm in the ESV, the original Dead Sea Scroll. It seems to be hosts. And I'm not, I'm not at all trying to argue with you, Matt. I'm just trying to understand because I see both sides.

Like I do read the Old Testament. It seems like many times he is addressing rulers, kings, but many times it does seem to be some sort of unseen.

Realm spirit. Okay. Let me help you out as well. Okay. I'm going to go to Galatians 4. Okay. Okay. However, at that... 4 .8. However, at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods.

You're slaves to other gods, but they're already not gods. This is Galatians 4 .8. When you did not know God, you were slaves to those which are by nature, not gods. So there's Moloch, right? There's the Asherith.

So there are gods from other nations, aren't they? But are they really gods? Well, of course not. But they're worshiped as God. People believe them as gods and God will talk about it. No, the council of all the gods.

I'm the one who will do this and this and that. Well, that means there's really other gods then, doesn't it? That's not what he's saying. All of your pagan, your false doctrines, your false gods, your followers, of all of that, I'm the one who blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

He's not saying they actually exist because Paul the Apostle says, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. That's what he's saying. He says, because the people would make for themselves different gods.

They have cast their gods into the fire, for they were not gods, but for the work of men's hands, wooden stones. So he destroyed them, Isaiah 37, 19. Now, let me read you some more scriptures. We already went to Isaiah 43, 10, 44, 6.

Now I'm going to go to Isaiah 44, 8. But we'll have to wait till the break. You have got to get this in your head. There's only one God. And we'll talk about this after the break, why this is so significant.

I'd love to hear you on Deuteronomy 32, 8 through 9. Okay, we'll do that after the break. Okay, hold that for the break. Okay. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. We'll be right.

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One God, False Gods, and the Sons of God in Deuteronomy 32

Roderick, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Luke from Tennessee. Luke, you still there? I'm still here. Yes, sir. All right. So during the break, I looked at Deuteronomy 32, 8 and 9. Okay.

Right? Yes. All right. According to the number of the sons of God, right? And yep. Yep. Okay. So I, on November 9th, 2018, I wrote an article, Who were the sons of God in the Bible? And I went through in the NESB, every single instance of where it occurs.

There are 10 occurrences in the NESB. The ESB says sons of God. So I didn't put that in there. But the Hebrew is, is sons of Israel, or the King James says sons of Israel, or sons of Adam, excuse me. All right.

So, and the NESB says son of man, sons of man, because the Hebrew, the word there is Adam in Hebrew. Are you sure the original Hebrew said that,.

As well as the Dead Sea Scrolls? From my research, it was sons of God.

Yeah. Let's just say it was the sons of God. Okay. Let's just say that. All right. That's not a big deal. Okay. What's the term sons of God mean? Well, what does it mean? Sons of God? Have you done a search on what that means?

The term sons, plural.

Absolutely. And I've done, I've actually read that article that you're referring to on your website, from other places like Psalm 89, and most notably Job, sons of God does seem to quite literally refer to angels or spiritual beings.

So I don't see how this wouldn't refer to the same definition here in Deuteronomy 32, when he's referring them back to the Tower of Babel and what happened when he divided them.

Well, the sons of God can mean people, or it can mean angels, depending on the context.

Okay. Well, in the Old Testament context, it's always going to be angels. No, not necessarily. New Testament, can you point me to a verse then? Let me look, make sure.

Actually, you may be correct there, because they're all, hold on, hold on, hold on, slow up, slow up. They're all angels in the Old Testament. In the Old Testament, they're all in reference to angels.

Yes. Okay. All right. Yeah. So, are you thinking there's more than one God out there?

No, absolutely not. I was just getting your opinion on this Deuteronomy 32 worldview, and I thought it was quite interesting because what God's doing in the gospel message is not only giving us, it seems to me, as you read this context throughout scripture, he's not only, most importantly, forgiving our sins for the elect, but it seems like he is taking back authority from these divine beings, and that's what Deuteronomy 32 and, like, I originally thought Psalm 82 was referring to.

No, no, no, that's the unrighteous.

Judges in Israel, Psalm 82. So, you're saying he's taking it back? I understand, yeah. Yeah, that's what it is. But he's taking back authority? Would he lose it to him?

No, let's read Deuteronomy 32, then. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just asking.

The summation problem. I don't want to read all the verses. I'm just saying, what's the position? Is it that God lost his authority? Is that what it is?

No, absolutely not. God chose to give some sort of dominion to other, lowercase g, God that he created, right? And God's people was Israel. So God, capital G, Yahweh, is the God of Israel, and over and over again, these other gods failed, and we see back in Deuteronomy 32,.

It seems that he did give authority to these gods. Okay, so what's the nature of these other gods you're talking about? Are they divine beings, like God, because God is divine? Are they angels? Are they people?

Are they another form of life? Well, I would believe they were a reference to.

His divine counsel. Okay, you're not answering the question. They were beings that he created,.

Like angels, that he's given authority to. Okay, hold on, hold on. You've got to do some critical thinking here. We know that God is one kind of being. He alone is God. Humans are one kind of being. Angels and all the demonic, okay, are another kind of being.

What kind of being are these sons of God that you're saying he created to have authority? What's their nature?

Well, you know, when you say angels, you know, Matt, that it's not just one level of angels out there. I mean, there's certainly different levels out there, and I think these divine beings would fall under the category of angels, but have some sort of authority under your typical messengers.

So you're just saying that these divine beings are angels?

Yes, a high authority angel, yeah, I would say. Okay, hold on. Now, they're divine. Does that.

Mean they have the quality of being divine, of the way God is divine? Absolutely not, no. Okay, good. So they're just angels, and they're just powerful angels that could do a lot, basically what you're saying, right?

Well, yeah, they seem to be angels that have been given.

Authority by God to rule over the other nations and continue to fail in doing so.

Sure, we don't have any problem with that. That's not a problem. That's biblical. I've written articles on that. Okay, so no problem. That's what I was asking about. I mean, that's ultimately what I was curious about.

Here's the problem. If you say divine counsel, divine this, divine that, divinity is a quality that belongs to God alone. If you're calling them divine, now you're opening yourself up to a heresy first.

You have to say angels. You have to see what God means by certain things. It cannot be that there's another class of existence out there besides humans, angels, and God that are sentient. Well, isn't angels more of a New.

Testament wordology? Would it be okay to attribute them to lowercase g gods as the Old Testament.

Does? What's a lowercase g god? What's that? It's what we're talking about. It's what the.

Old Testament is referring to. Like in Egypt in the 10 plagues, it says he punished not only the people and killing the firstborn, but he also punished the gods of the nations. Yeah, the false.

Gods. You have to be very, very, very careful. I'm trying to get you to learn something here. I don't want you to use these terms as gods the way you are to have divinity. You're going to cause all kinds of problems.

You're going to confuse people. Use the terms that we understand them to mean, the angels that were sometime and fallen angels who imitated gods and pretended to be like them. This Michael Heiser guy has caused problems upon problems upon problems because of this.

The Mormons are jumping on this saying, see, there's other gods out there. The Jehovah's Witnesses say big g god and little g god. You're using the same terminology, the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses.

And without clarifying everything, you could end up in some serious error. Because if you don't clarify it now and you continue with this, you could potentially end up in some polytheistic thing or panentheism or something else potentially.

Sure. Well,.

What I'm getting at, Matt, I'm not, and I've been studying this for five years. I'm not going to fall down that path. Don't worry. But what I'm getting at is it appears from saying scripture, and it's really cool that God is over and over again, yelling at Israel in the Old Testament, not just about some wooden idol, but actual lowercase g gods.

I understand you. We don't like to use that word. So we'll do angels, some wicked angels. And it it seems to give more.

Context to the Old Testament when you read it that way. So they really weren't gods. There's the conceptualization of what a god is, but it has no on toss, has no existence. So there's certain demonic forces will imitate God, just like certain demonic forces imitate Mary and appear to the Catholics.

And they will say it's really Mary. But it's not. It's a demonic force doing an imitation. So this kind of a thing that could have demonic. Well, what do you. What do you say.

To someone that says the whole Old Testament is using the word God because it does it because.

The word Elohim occurs 6418 times or something like that. And so it has a myriad of of context.

And uses. So so so so. The word God doesn't have any set of attributes that we shouldn't assign a specific definition to it. Is that what you're saying?

No, no, no. Words mean what they mean in context. That's what that's what we say. Okay. Okay. So whatever the context is, is called a semantic domain that a word has a range of meanings in different contexts.

So the word for Elohim, for example, which is 430 in Hebrew, you know, the Strong's Accordance. Whoops. Here we go. This occurs two thousand five hundred ninety nine times. I'm thinking the word Jehovah appeared that many other times.

Elohim is two thousand five hundred ninety nine times. Okay. And it has many different usages, different contexts.

Yeah. And through some, you know, some. And I would acknowledge that many of those use cases are for human rulers. But what I'm getting at is that it appears that many times as well, in addition to it, that it does seem to appear to some sort of angel or demon in the Old Testament.

Is what I'm getting at. Well, we have to check to see if that is the case. And I don't have.

Any problem with it as long as we in the perfect example would be, again, that Deuteronomy 32.

Yeah, but I don't believe that's the case with the Hebrew. So anyway, look at the Hebrew and.

The Dead Sea Scroll as the sons of God. Well, OK, but it wouldn't be sons of Israel because.

OK, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. OK. The term sons of God in the Old Testament is my research refers to angels. They're not divine beings. They're angels. The phraseology is unfortunate for us today because it can mean false things without training.