WWUTT 1785 Q&A Promoting False Teachers, Phil Vischer’s Liberalism, God Made Patriarchy, Song of Songs Books

Psalm 37 and Delighting in the Lord

At what point does a teacher become so heretical, you just can't recommend their books anymore? What is up with Phil Vischer? And is a husband or father always the head of his household? The answers to these questions when we understand the text.

This is when we understand the text, a daily Bible study to help you draw near to Christ, that the word of God may dwell richly in you. Tell your friends about our ministry at www .utt .com. Here once again is Pastor Gabe.

Thank you, Becky. You're welcome.

Psalm 37. Yes. Beginning in verse one. Do not fret because of evildoers. Be not envious toward doers of unrighteousness, for they will wither quickly like the grass and fade like the green herb. Trust in Yahweh and do good.

Dwell in the land and cultivate faithfulness. Delight yourself in Yahweh and he will give you the desires of your heart. Commit your way to Yahweh. Trust in him and he will do it. He will bring forth your righteousness as the light and your judgment as the noonday.

Sure feels like the days are getting more and more evil, more and more uncertain. Yeah. Perilous, difficult. Trust in the Lord. Yeah. Continue to trust in the Lord. Amen. No matter how bad things get, he will uphold us.

Our eternal resting place is not here on this earth, so it's not dependent upon what the economy's gonna do anyway.

We are dependent upon Christ. What I used to always, I don't know, like not put an importance on it, is the fact that it says delight in the Lord first. Yeah. So that's where your heart is, is delighting in the Lord, and then he will give you the desires of your heart.

Yes, correct. So that part's

The desire, your desire is the Lord. Right. And then, yes. Precisely. The desires of the heart he gives you is himself. Right. Exactly.

Yes. You got it. So that's one thing that I've been focusing more on, making sure that's first and foremost in my head, rather than, oh, well, my heart really, I love the Lord, but I really like this.

It's always the Lord wants me to be happy. He'll take care of me. Yeah. But that's not the desires. He'll give me everything I want. Right, right, right. And so that, I mean, it's fleshly desires, no sugarcoating it there, but it was one of those things that I would focus on that rather than the first part of that.

On Christ. Right. Rather than focusing on Christ. Yeah, like my desire should be him. Yes.

Q&A and the New Facebook Page

So this is the Friday edition of the podcast, our Q &A. We take questions from the listeners and respond to them, and it's also the first Q &A that is showing up on our new Facebook page. Boop, boop. The old is passed away.

Behold, the new has come. You finally buckled down. I finally just had to do it, because there wasn't any way that I tried many, many different ways to reacquire access to that Facebook page. I don't know if Facebook intentionally locked me out or not.

Yeah. But we have started this new page, and now the address that was on the old page, even that's outdated already. Because we figured out, we did it through Becky's account, how to set the address of the new Facebook page.

Yes. So you're going to facebook .com slash when we understand the text. That's the new page, join us there. We're already getting messages from people. Yes. It's amazing. Yeah. It's wonderful. I think it's been over a year since I've checked, since I've been able to check Facebook messages.

Probably, pretty close, yeah. And now here, look at these messages that we're getting. This one from Susan in Pennsylvania, a comment she left on Facebook. These short videos are extremely informative.

I have learned a lot from when we understand the text, and this has helped me to understand God as he is portrayed in the scripture. I would recommend this page to anyone who ever has questions about the Bible.

Oh, that's sweet. That's awesome, thank you Susan. Here's one from Carrie, Kari in California. Carrie, I'm going to say it's Carrie. Okay. Hi Becky and Gabe, I love your podcast. I'm praying for restored health and God's blessings for your family.

Thank you. Yes. Yeah, it went through everybody, but one person. Last man standing. Last man standing, yeah. That's Gabe. We'll wait to see.

It could still get me. I don't know, it hit everybody pretty quick. So I think it's out. Now you might get hit with somebody, you know, with something else.

I always get something else, yeah. You guys will, six members of the family will all get the same thing. I don't get it, but then later I'll get something nobody else gets. Right. Yeah. Yep. Somehow my immune system didn't get passed on to the kids.

Much different. They got your immune system. I'm just in a world of my own. I don't know what that is. To care for us. That's right. So I can be the one to care for you and clean up all the messes when everybody gets sick.

Let's not talk about that.

But I appreciate those who prayed because I did say on the podcast last week when you couldn't be on.

Oh yeah, thank you so much for those prayers.

This one comes from Michael Riley. This one was through the website. So he sent an email through our email link on the webpage, www .utt .com. He says, hello, Pastor Gabe. Do you know of any Christian driven homepages that can replace my MSN homepage on my computer?

I am tired of being confronted with secular opinions and news that I have no interest in. I hope I'm clear in my request. God bless you and your family. Well, my homepage is the weather. So I mean, it's whatever you want to make your homepage into.

You just have a website that you frequent the most often. It might be the first thing that you tend to check when you bring your browser up. So maybe you want to make that your homepage and then just follow the instruction.

I mean, go through the menu options, whatever browser you use. There will be one on there where you can set the current page as the homepage. So every time you bring up that browser, that's the page that comes up.

Or you can even have, like sometimes I've had five or six tabs open at once because I'm working on something. Only, yeah, only. You will have 20 to 30 tabs. But I'm able to narrow down. These are only the tabs I need.

So I'll have five or six tabs and I can mark those so that when I bring my browser up next time, those same tabs are what opens. Yeah, you just have to know your browser and look for the options that are in there.

But if you like news, so for example, the MSN homepage is what you have coming up and it's generally giving you articles. You'll probably have latest news. There'll be entertainment news and then there'll be a weather forecast on the side for you or something like that.

If you like that kind of a setting, then I'd recommend going to World Magazines page and just setting that as your homepage because they're about the most reliable, I think, as far as Christian world, Christian news goes, yeah, world.

Let me tell you exactly what the website is, wng .org. So if you go to wng .org or, you know, you can always set wwutt .com.

Yeah, you know, we're not gonna tell you not to.

Or pastorgabe .com, anytime I got a new blog, it'll be posted right there. Let's see, another question here. I don't have another short question. So the rest of these are more in-depth questions. But appreciate your comments on the Facebook page.

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Promoting Heretical Teachers and When to Stop Recommending Them

This one comes from Rhian in Seattle, Washington, who says, hi, Pastor Gabe. I have a question for you about how a pastor should promote other teachers from the pulpit and where slash when you would draw the line in the sand.

Pastors at the church my husband and I have recently left, but have many dear friends that are still attending, often promote teachers, books, et cetera, during their sermons. Examples being white fragility, the theology of Martin Luther King Jr., et cetera.

Yeah, I wouldn't attend that church. That's, that's. I mean, they're promoting, everything you've mentioned there is heresy. Yeah. The theology of MLK Jr., he denied the resurrection of Christ. And even at some points in his ministry, denied the deity of Christ.

Yeah. Or said that it wasn't important. White fragility, Robin DiAngelo. I mean, she's promoting critical race theory, which is antithetical to biblical Christianity, not to mention that she's not a Christian at all anyway.

Yeah. So going on with Rheanne's email, recently a pastor was raving about a book written by Luke Timothy Johnson, Lord have mercy, called The Real Jesus, and he highly encouraged the members of the body to purchase this book.

Well, that particular book is a critique of the Jesus Seminar from several decades ago. Okay. The Jesus Seminar was basically, I mean, a bunch of liberal theologians getting together and coming up with what they believe the Bible really said about Jesus.

Oh, okay. My understanding is that Johnson was pretty critical of the Jesus Seminar. So that book might be okay, but Luke Timothy Johnson is a Roman Catholic. So if you're talking about attending a Protestant church, they shouldn't be promoting that book and say, here, read this.

He doesn't have an accurate understanding of salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone anyway. Right. So anyway, the pastor highly encouraged the members of the body to purchase the book. He gave no caution about the author, solely a major endorsement of this particular book.

I had never heard of Luke Johnson, and so I looked him up, and the first article that came up was one he had written where he explicitly advocates the rejection of the clear teaching in scripture regarding LGBTQ issues, and calls Christians to fully embrace and accept homosexual lifestyles and behavior.

Well, that comes from their Pope. Yeah, he's become more accepting of that, and that's true. My husband and I met with the pastor after this and asked if he was aware of the views of this theologian. He was aware, but stated that due to the doctrine of common grace, oh brother, any teaching slash book that is orthodox or profitable for the church, regardless of where the author stands on other issues, is okay.

I've not read The Real Jesus, so maybe it is not an orthodox book to begin with, but my former pastor seems to believe it is excellent. My question for you is, would you agree with this rationale? I think I've pretty well established through my comments how I feel about that.

When does it become appropriate to no longer read or learn from or promote theologians or authors? With so much deconstruction and abandonment of orthodoxy in our current culture, I am struggling to know when to demonstrate grace versus when to say no more.

I hope this makes sense. Thank you for your ministry. Well, Rhian, there's a very simple principle that I go by. You can judge a book by its cover. Yeah. And when I say that, I don't necessarily mean looking at the front and the title, although that may be enough to clue you in on whether or not you should read that book, but just read the contents of the jacket and you can probably figure out whether I should even be wasting my time reading this.

Now, there are certain things that I read that are not sound. I know they're not sound when I start reading it because I want to know what this person's views are. What are the issues that I need to know to respond to?

And you're able to not let that influence your way of thinking because you're combating. You're going in there knowing that you're gonna combat most of the content, whereas other people who don't have a good foundation might be swayed by the book.

Yeah, right, exactly.

Yeah, I mean, they're taking their pastor's word for it. They're trusting their pastor. So if he's recommending something to them, not for critique, but for, hey, you need to know this. This is good for you.

And I don't know why anybody at this point, decades later, needs to be reading anything.

On the Jesus Seminars. I'm wondering, what does that have to do with today? But I mean, maybe it was his sermon series.

I don't know. Yeah, well, with Luke Timothy Johnson, you can find where he was explicitly opposed to LGBTQ issues. There was a time where he said that to side with homosexual perversion that was rapidly becoming accepted in this culture would be to reject the clear teaching on what the Bible says about this.

But he's now in the place where he's rejecting the clear teaching on the Bible about this.

Obviously, with the Pope leading the way. Well, he's not really.

See, the thing about that, though, is Johnson will say that he's not really a staunch churchman. So he's not following the Roman Catholic trajectory. He's just simply coming about this on his own. It's stuff all around them.

Oh, sure. Oh, yeah, on his own. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, he's part of a school that's, it's Emory University. I think that's Methodist Episcopalian. I don't think it's Catholic. Okay. So he's a Roman Catholic that has like an emeritus position.

Okay. At an Episcopalian college. Oh, that's weird. But anyway, yeah, it just kind of tells you he doesn't really have strong commitments to the Roman Catholic faith. Fair enough. But he's still Roman Catholic.

And, I mean, all that aside. Following the way of the world. Yeah, he's embracing passions of the flesh, rejecting clear teaching of scripture. His views are heretical. Yeah. Straight up. You can't say of him, well, as long as the book is orthodox.

No, he's not orthodox.

Right. He's a Roman Catholic. Right, and no matter what the author is trying to write about and persuade you to think about, whether it sounds like it should be on point or not. If they're not sound to begin with, they're not gonna write a sound book.

Yeah.

For you to follow. I mean, you would never in a million years. Well, I mean, unless he was repentant. But at least where he's at right now, you would never in a million years say of Stephen Furtick that he can write a sound orthodox book.

Very true. No one would, no one who has any sense of what Stephen Furtick teaches, talks about, T .D. Jakes, Joyce Meyer, any of these. You should never assume that they are gonna write an orthodox book.

It's heresy on its face. You can judge a book by its cover. And in this case, we know enough about those authors to know they don't know the gospel if it bit them in the nose.

The Lord is. Sadly. Yeah. So what was the question officially? Oh yeah, you don't agree.

Yeah, I don't agree with Luke Timothy Johnson. The question being, when does it become appropriate to no longer read, learn, from, promote theologians or authors?

Right, that one's a tough one. The first question, yeah, I mean,.

It can vary by circumstance. But the first question was, would you agree with this rationale? I don't agree with the rationale in the sense that the pastor is from the pulpit recommending books that are clearly either heretical or heterodox.

I'm so irritated with that. Yeah, I don't agree with that at all. Now, I would not from the I don't care about the circumstance.

I mean, there's no reason. Yeah. There is no good reason to do that.

I would not even from the pulpit say, hey, read this heretical book and just to get an idea of what's out there. I wouldn't even say that from the pulpit. There are certain people I would say that to because I know that they can handle it.

But there's others that I'm not gonna subject to that because they aren't mature enough. So making that sort of blanket recommendation from the pulpit, I'm just not gonna do that. That's irresponsible.

Yeah, there's people that I've told, they've asked me questions about Jesus culture or not Jesus culture, Jesus Calling. Oh, yeah. Jesus culture is Bethel Church, they're bad anyway. Yeah, but they're still also heretical.

But Jesus Calling by Sarah Young. So people will ask me like, what is really the problem with the book? And I've asked, my first question is usually, have you read it? Yeah. And I'll say, you can figure it out.

Like if you're sound in your doctrine on scripture within the first two or three devotionals, you're already going, okay, this is silly. Like you already know what the problem is of this. You're probably feeling it from the first few lines of the book, in fact.

So there's some that I'm gonna say, like if you wanna know about it so that you know how to respond to people who are enthralled with it, then it's a good idea to read it. It's a good idea to become familiar with it.

When I was a youth leader years ago, I was reading Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and Christopher Hitchens, because these were the books that my high school students were watching their peers read and having recommended to them.

Oh, have you read this from Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion? You gotta pick this up. And so I was reading it because I was waiting to hear those sorts of arguments pop up in youth group, so that as soon as I heard it, I could jump into the conversation and go, I know where you heard that from.

That's from Richard Dawkins' book or something like that. So I was staying up on that so that I knew what everybody else was listening to among their peers and how to help them respond to it. I wouldn't necessarily telling the students, there were a few of them, I said, well, I mean, check this out from Dawkins.

And I would even bring the book and I would open it and point to it. Here's the line, here's what scripture says. So teaching them how to respond to those arguments. It's not that as Christians, we wanna be completely closed off to anything that's out there in the world.

I mean, there's certain things we should never subject our mind to. You don't need to read smut to know why it's bad. So there are certain things we don't need to be entertained by, but other things just as being educated, just being familiar with what's out there.

I certainly wouldn't say the vast majority of your diet should be reading bad books.

Yeah, you definitely need some sound ones in there.

Yeah, but you think about the fact that Vodie Bauckham has written books responding to critical race theory, Owen Stran, Daryl Harrison and Virgil Walker. And these books have read all the other books.

These authors have read everything else that's out there and they can tell you about white fragility. They can tell you what the problems are with. See, they have to know this stuff in order to respond to it.

So if you think that it's necessary for you to help friends or whatever else in responding to some of these common arguments that are out there, then read the book.

Excellent suggestions of, here, why don't you read this book? If their pastor recommends something, you could be like, here, here's a more sound book. But then also read, yeah,.

Social Justice and the Gospel by Jeff Johnson or Fault Lines by Vodie Bauckham. You know, you're handing them, here's the sound doctrine that you need, right.

Here's your actual meat and potatoes. Yes.

As, I think it's Charles Spurgeon who said, spend time in many books, but live in the Bible. Yes. Spend most of your time in scripture and let the word of God fill you up. So where's the cutoff? Because, I mean, there's

I don't know. I mean, just to give the listeners a little bit of a, I don't know, tidbit, I guess. You don't recommend the older books from the authors who have gone awry today. Yeah, I don't. Of what they wrote back in the day, even though that was sound.

Yeah. Even though their older books were sound, now they've gone off track and I don't recommend their books at all. Yeah. Right. Because people will start looking for that author and they'll find something new and be like, oh, hey, and then be completely off.

Right.

Now, sometimes I'll say this, sometimes I just don't tell you that. Like, and you meaning the audience in general. Okay. I just don't tell you that I'm not recommending that person anymore. I'd rather not even mention their name at all.

Right. So they're not getting an endorsement from me and they're also not getting, hey, this guy's a problem, don't have anything to do with him. And the reason for that is because they may not have explicitly gone into heresy, but they've at least gone down a certain track that's problematic enough, I can't use them anymore.

Nor do I think that they're beneficial to anybody. If we wanna get into an in-depth, one-on-one conversation about it, then I'll tell you what the problem is with this teacher and why. In fact, a member of my church just emailed me earlier this week and had asked about a certain teacher.

And when I responded, I said, I don't talk about that teacher at all. And I'm not gonna respond to the question on the podcast because I don't wanna give an endorsement of that teacher. And I don't even really wanna kick up the dirt that tends to float around surrounding this teacher.

I'd just rather not deal with it. So rather, the position that I've taken on that is I'm just not gonna recommend them at all. Your life is edified enough by plenty of other good authors out there that you don't need this guy.

Right, and then I know that you have recommended like a book or two, but you give the, what is it, caveat, the fine print, that only this book, don't go into any other books, but that's with more sound people.

Right, that's still a certain person I'm gonna do that with. Very few, very few. So yeah, just find the sound people who are sound today or who are deceased and they still are sound.

Yeah, most of what I read anyway are commentaries. I'm not really a rich repository of book recommendations. People think I am. You have a lot of books. I do have a lot of books and I've read something, I've at least read something of all of these books.

I probably haven't finished all these books, but I've read something of all of them. And then the books that Tom recommends and we'll do like through various semesters and things like that as pastors, we're supposed to read those books.

I've been through those as well. They're often equipping books. We're talking about spiritually equipping, but most of the things that I read just as my personal regimen is mostly commentary. And I don't feel like I've read enough commentaries on John.

So I'm still gonna find more commentaries on John. I'm going through J .C. Riles right now. And I can't get enough of that. There's still occasional books in there from Calvin or from A .W. Pink or something that's more historical that I just haven't gotten to yet.

I'll still pick up and wanna read those. I don't read a lot of new stuff. Although Peter Salmon's book that he just recently did on depravity, that was one of the better books I read this year. I'd recommend that one.

I can't remember the title of it exactly, hang on. Reprobation and God's Sovereignty, Recovering a Biblical Doctrine. There you go. There you go. I said depravity, reprobation. But anyway, okay, let's continue on with next question here.

I think that was all the questions. I think that was everything Rhian asked. Hope that was helpful, Rhian. This one comes from Georgia in London. Hi, Pastor Gabe, I homeschool and have been using Easy Peasy all-in-one homeschool put together by Lee Giles.

Are you familiar with that? No.

Okay. I mean, I've heard of Easy Peasy but not often enough to know about it.

Okay, to give like a general review. Yeah, I have no idea. Okay, so Georgia says, when Phil Vischer, this is the creator of VeggieTales, when he put out the video that, oh, it was Lee Giles. Okay, so when Phil Vischer put out a video, Giles shared it for consideration as a valid source on Facebook.

It was challenged and we who challenged it simply had our comments deleted. He came out with a new streaming service called Mr. Phil TV, which was promoted to Easy Peasy for a discount if we signed up.

People raised concerns again and again the comments were deleted and some were hidden. Many homeschool moms are oblivious to what Mr. Vischer is promoting and then that's it. Then Georgia, so not really a question there.

More of a heads up. Yeah, but a heads up of some of the stuff that is being put out there by Easy Peasy. Well, that's disappointing. I mean, Phil Vischer is deeply problematic. Yeah. Hugely problematic.

In fact, things developed just this past week when Phil Vischer revealed that he believes abortion is okay in some cases. Whoa. He's explicitly said so and claims that he has a point of view that's held by the National Association of Evangelicals since 1971.

That doesn't really give any weight to your argument because in 1971, the Southern Baptist Convention was pro-abortion. Hmm. I don't hold the position of the Southern Baptist Convention in 1971. Yeah.

I don't hold the position of the Southern Baptist Convention now. Right. They seem to be opponents when it comes to trying to pass anti-abortion legislation. So Phil Vischer is, and his program, The Holy Post, I mean, it's awful.

It's crass. There are jokes that they say on that show I won't even repeat here. And I've listened to enough of them that, I mean, it's not rated R humor.

Well, no, but that's still really disappointing.

But it's still really bad. I mean, a guy who's done kids shows and his audience is almost 100 attracted to The Holy Post because they know Phil Vischer through VeggieTales.

Right, and it wasn't just VeggieTales though. What else did he do? What's in the Bible. Yeah, what's in the Bible. Jelly Telly.

Yes, Jelly Telly. Buck Denver. Mm-hmm, yes. Trying to think if there was another one in there. He did a lot. Yeah, I mean, we subscribed to Jelly Telly for a while. Mm-hmm, we did.

Yep, that was disappointing.

But the guy's gone liberal and he's going further and further left. The more he is, he's actually starting to be transparent and revealing these views that he's kept hidden. So the more he's starting to roll these things out and become more transparent about that, he's getting more and more pushback.

And it's just gonna drive him to go further and further left. Yeah, unfortunately. So it is something to keep your eye on and do try to make others aware of that. But I don't know what you can do about Facebook if they delete the comments.

Yeah, I don't know what to tell you either.

I mean, make awareness of it. Get in touch with some of those parents that you see that their comments are being hidden or deleted. Confirm together, contact the organization. I don't know what other steps I can tell you to take simply because I don't know easy peasy.

I don't even know how it works.

Yeah, I'm not sure either, but be sure to like use pleasant language, polite language. Yeah. Because you've lost the game if you don't, if you're rude off the bat.

That's right. We've been told to give an answer for the hope that lies within us, but do this with gentleness and respect. Yes. 1 Peter 3 .15. And as it said in 2 Timothy 2 .25, the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome, but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting opponents with gentleness, and God may perhaps grant repentance, leading to a knowledge of the truth.

Right. And I'm praying for Phil Vischer's repentance. Oh, amen. Because where he's at right now, no one should be following any of the children's materials that he puts out. Just no telling where he's gonna go with any of that.

He came out with a children's Bible back in 2019. So there's a kid's Bible now that's been authored by Phil Vischer. Okay. That was before his woke-splosion. So he didn't come out. I like that word. Sorry.

He didn't really come out as woke in favor of critical race theory and the race politics that he pushes now, which incidentally, the Holy Post, it's all over that. Yeah. It's like Sky Jatani, one of the co-hosts, it's like he lives and breathes race terms.

It's constantly rolling out things like white evangelical males and black church going da-da-da-da-da. You know, everything is a demographic to Sky. They divide people up so awfully. There's no way that's God honoring.

Holy, the Holy Post is not. Yeah. But anyway, with Vischer coming out with that book in 2019, that was before he went woke, it probably doesn't have a lot of bad stuff in it. But at the same time, seeing how problematic his doctrine has been for a long time.

Yeah, being that he kept it hidden. Yeah. It's still, the trajectory of that is still gonna be off. Yeah. I mean, he's not gonna be talking to kids.

About abortion in a children's Bible. Right. But nonetheless, don't support him. I mean, you know, don't buy his materials. Yeah. There are other great things that you can invest in that will help grow your knowledge better.

Clearly, VeggieTales was not helping anybody grow. Right. It was just Christian entertainment. I mean, it was clean entertainment. Clean. Nobody's become a better Christian because they watch VeggieTales.

It's dumbed down Bible material. So you can't mature through that stuff. So my recommendation would be instead to use, you know, go to RefTunes. Go to reftunes .com, get their Pilgrim's Progress book.

Yeah. Get their Children's Catechism. They now have an Illustrated Baptist Catechism and an Illustrated Westminster Shorter Catechism. Yes. Now we need to be praying for Paul, who has, who's the guy behind RefTunes because he lost his hard drive.

Oh no. A lot of the stuff that he had saved on his computer, it crashed. He's got it at a computer repair place and they're helping him to recover all of that. Oh man. But I mean, I, with, as a guy who's got a lot, I've got a lot.

I've been doing this longer than Paul has. I've got over 1 ,700 podcast episodes, over 300 videos. All of my graphics to lose all of that,.

I don't even know how I'd recover it. I remember your computer crashing, like dead. There was no revival for that computer. Yeah. And you took a walk. You had a little walkabout.

I did not. I mean, there were some Do you remember that? There were some critical things that I lost, but I did not lose the most valuable things. Like to this day, I'm not missing that. Right. Now this stuff, I've got saved in multiple places.

I've got this laptop, which I just bought this year. So all the stuff up to, let's see, it would have been March. I think it was even April before I finally got everything transferred to this laptop. Yeah, I think so.

So the other laptop still has all the other stuff on it, just in case. I don't back it up every month, but I do it regularly enough that I don't feel like I'd suffer too much if I lost everything. Poor guy.

But yeah, when I read about that, because he was posting that, that's been a few weeks now. He posted that on social media a few weeks ago. I can't imagine.

Nope. I can't imagine what that would be like. R .C. Sproul also has some really good children's books, and they've even made some into movies, I think, or short movie clips, video clips, or whatever.

Because I think we have the DVD of the Poison Cup. Yes. Yeah, those are really, really good. Wonderfully illustrated. Beautiful. My goodness, they're some of the most beautifully illustrated books I've ever seen.

They're awesome. Yes. Kevin DeYoung's book, The Greatest Story. That's another good one. So there are some good things out there. Don't go with the easy guy.

Right. Just because it's right there in front of you doesn't mean you should grab it.

Just because you grew up watching VeggieTales doesn't mean your kids should. Yeah. So, yeah, there we go. All right, let's see. Going on to the next question. This is from Joshua. Dear Wut, I saw on Twitter that Wut said the following.

Okay. So this was the Wut Twitter, Wut .com. Twitter .com slash Wut .com. Don't put another dot in there. I saw on Twitter that Wut said the following. Neither hierarchy nor patriarchy are sinful, nor are they the result of the fall.

They are ordered by God. And then the reference there is to 1 Corinthians 11 .3, which says, I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

So then going on with the Wut post, Adam was the head of his wife before sin, Genesis 1 .27, 2 .18, and 23. She was created second, see also 1 Timothy 2 .13, which says that Adam was formed first and then Eve.

And he named her a clear sign of patriarchy. And then Joshua goes on to say, someone whose name was the blind guide responded with this. That was his Twitter name. Oh, okay. The blind guide. Okay. So he said, so what do you do with Priscilla and Akilah?

Because they reverse that order, and scholars point out that as a way of showing that she was more important, or the fact that it is Chloe's household and not her husband's, which is a reference in 1 Corinthians 1.