The Andrew Tate Saga Isn't That Tough, Then, the Alleged Seventh Ecumenical Council (787)

Greetings, welcome to the dividing line. I'll turn the monitor back on in here. I had that monitor on. I know I had that monitor on that monitor was on when I came in here and now it won't turn on. So and you walked in here since I was here last.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, cuz yeah, yeah you did and notice it won't turn on now. So it's all your fault. Okay, there you go. Well, it came up now it wants terms and conditions. But you know, I'm old enough to remember.

You know, okay, I could I could I actually have something now you can't get through the gate you can't operate the TV. Yeah. That gate is a mess. It truly truly is but I remember I remember TVs that you know you just walked up to it and you Click and it came on and It it didn't ask you for things.

You didn't have to do setups. It just it just came on and Showed you Gilligan's Island and other stuff in black and white. And that was that was fun. That was how it was how it worked anyway. Alright welcome to the program today we're gonna do a little Got some history to get to eventually here.

I did. I don't know how much time to spend on this.

Because I.

Wrote something. I don't know four or five days ago about the Andrew Tate stuff and.

I.

Posted it and It actually got a fair amount of traction I think I even posted it on the theology matters blog if I recall correctly.

And.

Interestingly enough Andrew Tate saw it and despite everything that it said and the fact that it included pretty straightforward discussion of the judgment of God and The fact that living the kind of life he's living will lead to fundamental disappointment emptiness.

At the end of his life. Loneliness. Because these relationships whatever relationships he has with thousands of different women.

And.

Children by all sorts different women and things like that doesn't produce family. Produces a lot of legal headaches, but doesn't produce family and.

And.

They're empty relationships their relationships that well, God didn't design us to live that way and so they bring heartache and And things like that his response so is so I guess I win and You know, it's just his attitude he doesn't take anything overly seriously other than himself.

And of course I respond to that too and I'm like, hey, here's a neat opportunity. Because I got up one morning and I start seeing these responses and they're clearly not from Christians. So, how did they see them?

Well because he had responded to me and So that means there are non-christians reading this. Well great. Man, if the Lord would use that just to bring one of his people to himself, it'd be worth worth all the Nastiness that comes along with it.

So I've tried to think Back to You know the years when Alpha Omega started back in the 80s and if there had been anyone like him now we had We had people similar and when you think of Magic Johnson and What came out later night now when he was playing they may have Talked about this, you know quietly that he was Having relations with anything that moved.

But that wasn't he wasn't talking about that he wasn't making that a part of his persona. So we know that Men have acted like this for a long time. You may be aware of the fact that genetically a large portion of Eastern Europe Has one man Genetically in their background is Genghis Khan and That.

Evidently.

After a day of war and pillaging he spent the whole night with captured women and You know from a from a Darwinian perspective He's the biggest winner of them all because from a from a Darwinian perspective you win by Getting as much of your genotype into the next generation as possible.

That's That's the only concept of victory in a neo-darwinian perspective and So Wow, he he won because he has Multiplied hundreds of thousands if not millions of people carrying at least a part of his genetic code.

Because of what he did now, he's also Abiding under the wrath of God and will for eternity. So there's that that's not really winning. But from a neo-darwinian perspective, you can't beat that. Uh, there have been lots of people in the past Julius Caesar and you think of Alexander the Great and Yet you read up on them and You know a million people dead a million people enslaved.

I'm not sure. That's how that That makes you great. It's just it's just so obvious that especially today people do not have the perspective to identify greatness from God's perspective from God's view and what that tells you especially in In our modern day is that we tend to look at well, we've talked about this before.

Remember.

It's about ten years ago or so. Some books came out there were some fairly well-known theologian apologetic type people and. And they were addressing The the problem of the Old Testament and specifically the problem of Genocide the problem of the judgment of God coming upon the Nations.

Remember in Genesis 15, I think it is No, or is it Exodus? It's one of the early books the Bible. Um Genesis, um, the this sort of cryptic little comment is made About the children of Israel being in Egypt for so long because The iniquity of the Amorites was not yet full.

Okay.

Now obviously this is a comment that's made later on once you have an idea of Who the Amorites were and what was gonna happen to them and they were gonna be wiped out and stuff like that. But the the whole idea was that The judgment that was going to come upon them was a just judgment and it was an appropriate judgment.

And of course The Bible does tell us a lot about what their idolatrous worship was but Archaeology has filled in a lot of the blanks. And it was bad man. I mean it was It was what had caused the flood in the first place.

It's amazing how fast mankind can descend into the abyss of Horrific nasty behavior. And so people are really uncomfortable and Especially today now that we live in a very secularized world the idea of God's Wrath being expressed judgment taking place.

Um.

Submission to God's wrath.

I mean.

This is where we have a disconnect when we read history because we look back at what Christians used to say and how they used to interact with say natural disasters and. The first reaction and this wasn't all that long ago.

First reaction was what have we been doing? That's brought God's wrath. You know, you can't even say that now. Can't even think about it. Let alone say it out loud and you can't even say it out loud in the church that's where everything has changed so much and so.

You know, like I said, there was this period of time where everybody's coming up with ways of trying to explain the commands of Scripture for the Israelites to wipe out a particular people man woman and child and.

The general way was to just deny that it ever happened this is this isn't really Scripture. This is just men writing what they think God wanted them to do it all. It all ends up with a view of the Old Testament that Jesus didn't hold the Apostles didn't hold and therefore we shouldn't hold but.

And I've warned you before You go to almost any Seminary or Bible College in the land anymore and that's the perspective they're gonna be holding anyway. I mean the number of schools today that you could go to where you would get a believing education.

When it comes to the Old Testament. Very small very small. So you need to realize. When you look at churches, it's one thing to see. You know the the rainbow-stoled priestesses in the United Methodist Church or in the PC USA or in the liberal Lutherans or United Church of Christ or cry not loud.

Talk about the walking zombie Church. It's one thing to see that but When you look at what we're once anyway is supposed to be conservative denominations and you still see. This real discomfort it's Primarily because the idea that we should have the same view of the Old Testament that Jesus did has been abandoned.

Don't ask me how they explain that. I mean it seems so obvious, you know. We're Christians here. But Jesus's view of the Old Testament was foolish. I don't know. I don't I don't pretend to understand how that works because it clearly doesn't but.

That's that's what's out there anyway back to what we've got here. People looking at Andrew Tate are Looking at him in a way that only 40 -50 years ago Would have been completely impossible. Even even in broader society.

I Mean there were lots of whispers about John F Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe and stuff like that, but there were meant to be whispers. You know, it wasn't that he's coming out and saying I'm I'm having a grand old time here as president I say it's I'm I'm sleeping with every everything it moves.

Yeah, you didn't do that wasn't considered manly. Okay, I was considered that was considered to be like the junkyard dog. Okay, that that's like the alley cat, you know, no morals not really human not controlled not disciplined.

And it didn't matter how big your muscles were or anything else so. Things have changed radically and they have changed within the church and so when some old boomer like me comes along and.

And.

You know, I I just open up my Bible and I quote scripture. It's sort of like who do you think you are and Do you really do you really got a lot of comments like this when I posted that stuff about Andrew Tate and I quoted scripture.

I quoted Acts chapter 17 about the coming judgment. Or I I said I said to individuals, you know, I I pointed them to passages, you know Titus chapter 2 for example. Yes, I know. There is no Titus 2. Thank you very much.

There's supposed to be space there. I Paul says to Titus but as for you speak the things which are proper for sound doctrine. Older men are to be temperate dignified sensible. Sound and faith in love and perseverance.

So I say to my fellow old men Temperate.

Hmm.

Dignified sensible sound and faith in love and perseverance. When it when it uses a term Sensible, it's one of my favorite.

Terms.

Sophronos Sophronis moss discipline self-control being sensible. The stuff that the society doesn't care anything about anymore. They're to be dignified. Sound in the faith where where do these things rate in our thinking when you get up in the morning and Once you get past all the stiffness.

Yeah, and the aches and the pains and you make all those noises as you're getting out of bed. Where does where does this come in our thinking sound and faith sound in love sound and perseverance while that There's where we get finishing.

Well Finishing well. And I don't want to be I do not want to be the next example of Someone who didn't finish well We're all thinking about the same guy right now and one of the main reasons we're still thinking about him is Because we don't have any closure, we don't have any conclusion we are left with multiple theories and multiple stories and The truth hasn't been put out there quite yet and it's like Hey, it's one thing if this guy owned a grocery store chain and Went to a particular church in a single state.

Okay, that's for that church to deal with. Okay, I get it. But when you're traveling all over the place and You're speaking at everything. I mean, I Can't think of a major conference he didn't speak at I really can't and He was tied in with big big big names, you know and Made big big big money Doing the things he did.

Yeah, that's gotta there's got to be a Accountability and closure. So that Other people can be warned. That's what that's what perseverance is. So that's what older men are to be shooting for that's That's given to us by scripture.

This this shows it. This is for Christians. I get that This is for Christians. But that would also seem to indicate that for a non-christian These would at least be things that would help them with the whatever amount of life they have left, right?

Older women likewise there to be reverent in their behavior not malicious gossips. Telling that to Titus too. Ooh, I can just see Titus seeing that going. Oh I'm gonna have to actually talk about this and I have to preach about this and Except by now he already would have known how malicious gossip can tear a church apart.

Oh Nor enslaved too much wine. Teaching what is good? Well, who are they supposed to be teaching? Well young women. So that they may instruct the young women in sensibility To love and what what are they young women are to be taught to love their husbands to love their children to be sensible Same term is up above disciplined self-controlled.

This is if this is God's Word. Then he doesn't want us acting like animals.

Okay.

Pure. That's holy workers at home. Kind being subject to their own husbands. So the Word of God will not be slandered. Oh, you mean there's something more important than just our personal happiness more more important.

There are 401k. It's so at the Word of God will not be slandered. Yeah, if we don't have these behavioral goals and This isn't the only place in Scripture where this is said it's it's common. Not only throughout the New Testament.

I mean you find this in Timothy and Titus and Ephesians and Colossians and Well Hebrews. Whenever you're addressing the church. There is exhortation as to how we are to live. It's not left up to us. But how many of these are quoting to us from the Psalms giving us the same principles we see in Proverbs.

Of.

Foundational concepts found the prophets. It's consistent all the way through so if the Word of God will not be slandered when the people of God do not listen to the exhortations of God and Do not live in that way The Word of God will be slandered and oh, have we not seen that take place?

Over and over and over again, that's not fair. We're held to a different standard. Uh-huh. Yep, we are as we should be likewise urge the younger men to be. Same terms used three so far three different times in this text.

Self-discipline. Sophronis moss. Self-discipline. To be in the right mind. It is it is controlling the way you think. It's a worldview thing. It's a it's a way of thinking that I'm going to put all of my life under the Lordship of Christ.

Younger men are to be disciplined in. How they how they act how they speak how they think? In all things show yourself to be a model of good works with purity and doctrine dignified. Sound and word which is irreproachable.

You mean how we speak that would include what we type who we follow on social media the movies that we watch. The things the world sees us doing these things. We are to be a model of good works with purity and doctrine.

That doesn't mean Spending your entire day arguing on Facebook or Twitter. But it does mean that you want to be sound and disciplined in what you believe. Because it honors God purity and doctrine. Dignified again, the same thing that is said to the older men is said to the younger men.

That means the way you behave the way you dress is to be dignified. It's because the world Doesn't care about stuff like that doesn't mean that we don't and then sound in word, which is irreproachable.

We all know the day of judgment is going to come and every spoken word is going to be judged and that's a frightening thing, especially to those of us who've. I mean how many tens of thousands of hours of Me speaking are there?

Sound in word, which is irreproachable. So that the opponent would put the shame having nothing bad to say about us. Well, look, you know, don't don't start arguing with Paul. Because I know what people will say.

Oh. But but look at how often we're lied about even as it is people people, you know slanders it. Okay, that's true. Leave that to God. Paul's point is you don't give them basis.

For.

Saying bad things about that that actually has a basis in truth in how you yourself have been speaking. So I've realized it's like yeah, but this is all about Christians and The Tate brothers are not Christians.

In fact Andrew Tate became a Muslim about what about two years ago or so. I remember when I first saw that I was just like.

Really.

I know far more about Islam than Andrew Tate will ever know about Islam and I know that the things he says. I saw stuff that he said. I Think it was Right at the end of December. I saw a quotation From some of the stuff that he had written.

So only a matter of weeks ago. It was that the terms vile. You know if you want to see misogynist fulfilled. True hatred of women true denigration of women the reduction of women to nothing but a sexual object.

That's what the man's all about. Always has been still is yeah, but he's a four-time world champion kickboxer. Okay. Put that on your resume before the judgment seat of God. See how far that gets you.

It's astonishing to me how many Christians are like, yeah, but wow, he's just done so much stuff man. And you know, you know, it's just you know. He had to be disciplined to be able to you know, be a kickboxer.

Okay.

There are people who are more than willing to Discipline their bodies. For what for what end to what end.

Pride.

Arrogance. The man's most narcissistic person I think I've ever seen and he celebrates it. So I. Guess yesterday. I saw some of it live. I guess yesterday there was a live webcast on Twitter from some folks Who are East?

And one of the things that was said, you know, oh, yes, he does lots of vile things and he promotes vile stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, all that stuff. Yeah. Sure. Sure, but.

At least.

When Andrew Tate is sinning He's sinning in the right direction sinning in the right direction and the idea was and Look, I've seen the picture. I I Probably could have asked Grock to pull it up or something like that.

I like Grock Grock is I've gotten used to You got to check stuff out. But in almost every technical conversation I've had with Grock we were talking about something I know about. It's been spot-on Been very very interesting, especially in textual critical stuff church history stuff things like that not so much theology, but When it's historical stuff, I guess I could have asked Grock to pull it up.

There's a There's a picture. I saw it just recently somebody had posted it and it the whole idea is to The guys that are really pushing all the masculinity stuff and the big beards and Crusaders and and you know all that all that stuff that.

They're trying to sort of make a niche for themselves and carve out an audience and get followers and things like that the thing they like to to put out there is that we're the ones standing against this and then they have this picture of Matt Matt Chandler and These three women and look There's I don't I don't remember now, I think it's I think man, I think she's been doing this for 10 years now.

Yeah, I think it's been about 10 years but my daughter summer has a webcast called sheologians part of the apology a family of webcasts and She and her partner have been Going after Feminism From the very start.

That's that's basically why they started was to be responding to feminism within evangelicalism and and you know. So they know all about first wave second wave third wave all know much more about than than I even ever want to know.

So I'm not going to be studying any of that. But anyway, they've been going at this stuff for a long long long long time and And you better believe that feminism is Battery acid to biblical Christianity it is battery acid to biblical ecclesiology.

It has gotten People into so much trouble. I remember I was thinking recently back in January of 2019. So it's Wow. That was six years ago six years ago right now Basically I was in Munster Germany Meeting with some folks there at the Institute for New Testament Studies and that's when I got those great pictures of the cages up on the Munster Cathedral and What and I remember going running and it was snowing which for Phoenicians Price wasn't all that wise.

I knew it was dangerous. I could fall and break something. I'm overseas I'm that was that was stupid, but I went running anyways I didn't fall thankfully and what I was listening to was J .D. Greer and it was when he Remember and I did some programs when I came back, especially He was talking about how he had quoted was a Jen Wilkin.

I think is what it was. Well, I think's in his church about how God whispers about sexual sin.

And.

That's when I came back and I did a whole series on Romans 1 and how it actually functions in Romans 1 and God isn't whispering about anything here and and and all the rest of that stuff, but but. Those the type of people so there's this picture of Matt Chandler and these three women and they're all wearing matching pink fluffy Sweater shirts type things and they're matching and it's just it it is about the least masculine looking picture you can possibly ever come up with.

Oh. Yeah, yeah, they're matching. Yeah, and I saw someone post it recently. Maybe somebody will pop it into the your little channel thingy me Bobby whopper thingy. That you all have that. I never see and have no idea what goes on there.

But anyway that's what they try to throw out there and what they'll what they ignore and this is what I I had said recently is I'm so sick and tired of all these people that are just they just whitewash all.

Of.

Yes.

Oh.

My watch tells me that Chris just said something in our in our element channel. So maybe you'll have to look and see if maybe he's provided it. I don't know. But did he? Us Chandler's family? All matching to you, okay.

All right, that's what they threw up there and. So they're just whitewashing everybody's like this all pastors are like this unless you're in our cigar smoking whiskey drinking gun shooting beard growing weight lifting Cadre then this is what you are and they're ignoring all of the faithful pastors who?

Labor in Quietude and in small towns and over the decades. Who just want to finish well and Do well for the kingdom and Just it bugs me to know to know in that. This is the kind of thing that's going on now.

It's It can't last forever. You know, we may have to go through it. It can't they're gonna turn on each other eventually.

And.

Since it's so imbalanced you know, but I Just I'm just sitting there thinking about Sinning in the right direction. Okay, so we've got a guy who would never be caught dead in a matching pink thingy with the ladies Because he's a four-time world champion kickboxer who it's well known has Raped Endless numbers of women degraded them and That's that's sinning in the right direction.

How do you how do you how does that sin in the right direction? I don't get it. I don't understand it. I'll never understand it. I'll never understand yeah, there was a Only five years ago everybody had called themselves Biblically conservative and reformed would have Said the same things about Andrew Tate and that's not the case anymore.

What does that tell you? Anyway, I wasn't gonna go into all that Turn the turn the the the big boat around here. I Was in Albuquerque. Yeah, I was in Albuquerque. I was trying to get to a specific gas station Albuquerque.

We had this fleet card So that I can get diesel and def back with the big trucks Because I'm a big truck when I'm on the road I think 50s 57 58 feet long and 13 half feet tall and 23 ,000 pounds qualifies as a big truck and.

I.

Had gotten blocked into my lane to where I had to go right instead of left. And so I had to get turned around and Do you know what it's like to try to bang a Yui when you're that long. I mean I'm Astonished that I found a road wide enough and that traffic wasn't coming.

I made it but it was By the way, you still need to repair the CB antenna. Riches rich was telling me you got turn harder. You got turn harder. We were trying to park the thing at the at the RV part. You got turn harder and I'm like and I'm like, no, we're already we're already farther than I want to go I'm gonna destroy the CB.

Well, we did and so Rich says I can I can fix it. I'm like, okay, we'll see. We'll we'll say let it be said let it be done as someone used to say and He's not with us anymore. And we sort of discovered that that's not really a wise saying anyways, but anyhow Banging the Yui here on the topic of the program.

Ah. You know I've heard so many people and this is a huge topic shift. Sorry. I Heard so many people say over the years. Well, you know in our church or in our denomination we We hold the first seven ecumenical councils.

I've heard Protestants say this. And I've always gone. No, you don't ever heard anybody say that. They're trying to they're trying to sound sort of Catholic of the small seed. And they're trying to go.

Well, you know yeah, we're connected with church history and and so we we We like the undivided church and the seven first seven ecumenical councils last last second minute the seventh ecumenical council at least as it's counted today Was in 787.

So hey 800 years after Christ sounds like a long time ago. So we'll go with that and I and I hear people saying this I I can't prove this but man, I have a Strong recollection of Norm Geisler saying that which would surprise me.

He should know better. But I do have a memory of that. At some conference we were at but anyway It's it's a common enough statement.

And.

Yet the vast majority of All Christians all Christians have never read almost any firsthand material from any of the councils. Obviously the earliest Nicaea since it was so unique. It was right after a period of persecution we don't have a lot of Firsthand stuff.

As you get farther down history Record-keeping Improved shall we say and we've got a whole lot more. So for example sitting over here. I have the standard work on The seventh ecumenical the acts of the Second Council of Nicaea 787 by Richard Price.

This is sort of considered the go-to Resource for all that stuff and there there are other books here like Leo Donald Davis the first seven ecumenical councils. Obviously significantly I mean if you're covering seven councils and this is one you can sort of tell the difference between the depth into which these go but Still there's not most people have Very little idea.

I mean I Would think especially people who listen this program, you know, the first council and I see it was about you know It was in 325 everyone who has ever. Why are you looking at me like that? I didn't.

Oh I think Nicaea and si ri sound similar to certain.

Nosy.

Well a couple nosy things here. It's there there. It's ubiquitous. Oh call it what it is. It's a spy. Yeah, digital spy. It's a digital spy. There's no two ways about. I can just take this thing and stick it up to my mouth.

I don't even have to say si ri. It knows by the the wrist turning that it's up at my mouth. And so anything I tell it to do it will then do automatically so.

Hey.

You're thinking about a smart smart Alec comment and you're gonna you're not gonna interrupt the continuing discussion. Okay, now you are no, I'm just you know thinking about a particular movie called Terminator and yeah.

Yeah, so nice. I wouldn't be thinking of Terminator. I'd be thinking of I was something like Minority Report or something like that. That's even scarier or I robot, you know. Yeah, those are all yeah.

Yep. You just keep on going there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look when they insert this into you. That's when it becomes a problem when it when it's connected to your body to where it's you know, it's in your brain or something.

That's when it becomes. Yeah. So you've had that moment where you're looking on social media and the thing you just thought of didn't say out loud pops up.

Yeah, okay.

Yep. Yep. Yep. That's when it gets a little scary. No two ways about it. All right. Well, thank you. That's the it for the dividing line today.

No.

Back to back to anybody who's taking my church history class, you know that I tell everybody you need to know that the Council of Nicaea took place in 325. It will be on the final examination free points for you if you Can remember to do that.

But we have lamented many times over the years The Council of Nicaea the first Council of Nicaea 325. Most people don't even know there was the second Council of Nicaea. They don't even know that 462 years later.

That's a long time that's almost half a millennium. See, we we squish stuff together when we think about time in history. So we think of we. Here is 787. We think of 325 Is just a few numbers off. But no, that's almost a half millennium between those two councils and I cannot think of a wider Chasm as to the quality of the decisions.

Argumentation then you have between Nicaea 1 and Nicaea 2. There are no Athanasius's at the second Nicaea Council at all and.

The.

Biblical argumentation is laughable the historical citations are laughable. The the things that are cited Are just. So many of them are fraudulent they're forgeries. People Just didn't have the Capacity at that point in time.

It's not because they were dumber than us. It's that Anachronism was already starting to develop and tradition gets in the way and it was all political. I mean Nicaea Started the influence of politics with Constantine, but by the time you get to Nicaea 2, it's all politics and It's not just quote-unquote secular politics that Sacralism is developing at this time.

The church-state Relationship is getting all has become completely entangled. At least Nicaea. Yeah Constantine's there, but he's not telling everybody what to do. That changes over time over the the course of of the councils and so you can you can see a degradation as the politics become more and more central as you go go from Nicaea to Constantinople and then Ephesus and Chalcedon and and Going hundreds of years down down the road so all of that to say Vast majority of Christians Eastern Orthodox and Protestant have never read Anything like what you would have in a book like this because I mean How long is this baby 700 and about 750 pages?

Okay, and you know, I've got a bunch of stuff marked here and I'm gonna be marking a whole bunch of more stuff here but you know here the.

37th.

Session with all the anathemas and I think I've read through the anathemas at some point in the past. We may have to do that again because that's why this is that's why this is important. Is that this second council of Nicaea as the first is as well is considered an ecumenical worldwide Representation of the entire church in all the world council and therefore it has infallible authority in Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, this is before 1054.

This is before the split. If you ask Rome today well. Okay, if you asked Rome 10 years ago 15 years ago. You might get a different answer and you get out of Francis today who knows where Rome's coming from now.

But if you ask Roman Catholics to enumerate the ecumenical councils and you ask Eastern Orthodox, they will give you different lists and You might even get differences. Depending on who you're talking to in each group.

As to what an ecumenical council is.

But.

Second Nicaea 787 is agreed on by both. That means they're bound to what those documents say now. We live in a day of post-modernism and so One of the Arguments that we must have is how do you know what they said?

Remember I back during John Paul II's years I Compared and contrasted Something he said with what had been said by I forget which early earlier Council Roman Catholic Council like Trent or something like that and I had a Roman Catholic apologist who I've named in the past.

I'm not gonna get into that right now. I had a Roman Catholic apologist write to me and say Who were you? To Tell the church what those documents meant. Only the church can interpret those things. So if you put the church in charge of the interpretation of these earlier Materials then they get to interpret anybody want you to maintain their current authority.

This the words that were written and spoken in 787 had a meaning in 787 just like the words that John wrote in The first century had a meaning in the first century. And if you're going to be honest With history or with yourself Then you're gonna go for that first.

You want to find out what what did the authors mean when when this when the Second Council of Nicaea? Anathema ties to people and Said that they were separated from the church. What did they mean by that?

It ain't what Jimmy Akin believes today. I can guarantee you that even even Roman Catholic apologists today recognized that Jimmy Akin is sort of on a little boat by himself out there with his Cowboy hat on with the strange views.