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Welcome to the truth and love podcast. Thank you for watching. We really appreciate it tonight

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We're going to continue walking through the book of Hebrews. We're going to be in Hebrews chapter 1 and we will begin right now

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I Know we do a podcast but then when I go on to When I go on a podcast that I want to listen to I Know that I'm ready for them to get straight to the point instead of a whole bunch of talking

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So let's let's just jump into Hebrews and We'll see where it takes us we last time we were together we did

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Hebrews chapter 1 verses verses 1 through 3 Let me read 1 through 3 real quick, and I just want to make one comment

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That as I was going back over it The thought come to me and I want to get your thoughts on it.

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So verse 1 through 3 God after he spoke long ago to the fathers and the prophets and in many portions and In many ways in these last days has spoken to us in his son whom he appointed heir of all things through whom also he made the world and he is the radiance of his glory and the exact representation of his nature and Upholds all things by the word of his power when he had made purification of sins.

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He sat down at the right hand of the majesty on high Before I make my comment and I'm looking

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Thank You Andy good to see you brother Hope you're doing well my friend

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But before I make my comment, I just wanted to say Dan sermon from Sunday is on Hebrews chapters 1 verses 1 through 3 and I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet I'm hoping to get to that tomorrow but I encourage you to go to the

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Truth and love network Facebook page it is posted there and check out Dan sermon from this past Sunday beginning of Hebrews so the

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Entitled diamonds are a girl's best friend. Oh Very What's the word

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Catchy catchy pulls you in there Fancy with diamonds has to be fancy But here's what

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I was thinking Dan as I was reading back over this this first part of these first three verses The author of Hebrews is telling us that in these last days that God has spoken to us through his son

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But in the past long ago, he spoke to us through the fathers and the prophets

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And in many portions in many ways but but ultimately We know that all scripture is inspired it's coming from from God through the

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Holy Spirit Absolutely Ultimately it's coming from God through the

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Holy Spirit and And and God is Jesus is part of the

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Trinity he's he's the God the Son Who did

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I misspeak sounds like partialism, it's really hard to speak about the Trinity without in in certain circles their liturgical circles if you follow the liturgical calendar, there is a whole

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Sunday set apart for preaching on the Trinity and from what

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I understand a lot of the Pastors have a guest preacher so they don't actually have to preach heresy that that Sunday Because they all know that they're gonna misspeak at some point because it's so easy to do so go ahead

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I'm just messing with you. Well, I mean That begs the question and we can come back to it later you know if if there's the heresy of partiality and it's not right to say

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Jesus is part of the Trinity, how would you How would you refer to him in his role in the

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Trinity? So let's come back to that, but I wanted to make this point and get your reaction on it

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So basically what I'm saying is sure all of Scripture The Old Testament, which is what he's referring to here, which is what we have

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Comes from God. He right which is what he says. He comes from God He spoke through the prophets and then in many other ways, but it comes from God and Jesus Jesus being

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God Yeah, the the word it comes from him ultimately But here he says in these last days

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He has spoken to us in his son Yeah But isn't it from the

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Sun as well all the In all the former ways that he spoke.

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Is that not from the Sun as well? it is In that that kind of bleeds through a little bit where it says he is the radiance of the glory of God the exact imprint of his nature the things where the

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Sun Upholds the world the universe by the word of his power um

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It kind of kind of bleeds through a little bit that he he was speaking there. I really think what?

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What the the Hebrews is trying to get at here is that We were spoken to Or our fathers were spoken to through prophets

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You know dreams all sorts of different ways. Yeah And they were given things in type and shadow

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They were given, you know the law which is good. They were given Prophets which were good.

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They were given the Nation of Israel their their whole being and makeup, which is good because it was given to them and ordained by God However, those things were all meant to point to a greater reality, which is

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Christ So while we were there we were spoken to by the agency of the prophets beforehand, we were done so in type and shadow whereas now when we we have

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Have the Word of God spoken to us. It's pointing to Christ as the ultimate reality so we

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We have Christ who spoke in the Gospels and we have this promise of sending us the

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Holy Spirit which would lead us into all truth which is Something that wasn't necessarily promised to the

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Old Testament Saints now, I'm not saying that they didn't have the Holy Spirit He wasn't working among them. He absolutely was he was there a part of creation.

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He inspired the scriptures of the Old Testament But we have a special Ascending of the

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Holy Spirit by the Son to us that would continue his his

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Speaking as the final word the final revelation of God to man instead of us going back to prophets

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We now have the Holy Spirit speaking more Intentionally sounds wrong, but more directly

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To us does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely and because of the type the type in shadow the the

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You know, the type in shadow is Gone.

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We're now the things that were pointing to something are No longer pointing.

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I mean, they're still pointing to it, but you have the focal point in view Christ, yeah

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And this particular subject Goes to depths

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Beyond what you know We could imagine and and Dan and I are independently listening to the same podcast and this particular podcast that we're listening to it's that it's taking me into some of those depths and understanding you know that I've not been before and that's you know, it's causing me to grow and causing me to think and See how glorious God is and how he worked from the beginning

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Through all of Scripture and It's been very enlightening very encouraging to listen to this podcast and listen to this teaching

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But Jesus now speaking as the

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Son which which we're going to get into the way

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I understood it is Yes, it was the word in the old covenant in the

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Old Testament it was yes it was given by God That that's his word.

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He spoke through them But what makes it different is the Incarnate Son it has come he has come he is present he became man, and so he is he is now speaking in in that way as the which

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If you if you go back to Deuteronomy Deuteronomy has a section of it towards the end where Moses Explicitly says there's coming a prophet one of your brothers that it's gonna come

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He's the anointed one and when he shows up you listen to him or you will perish

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It was it was that message that was spoken through the Old Testament and through the prophets through the angels to the fathers in times past That That prophet that Messiah the anointed one

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Jesus has shown up So everything that was in the Old Covenant was pointing to something was pointing to that one coming

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Jesus speaking to us in the last day. Yeah. Yeah and and looking at looking at it from Genesis on It's God's arrangement

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Working to that point where Jesus comes that that final authority and the one whom you must listen to like he there these people are we no longer have mediators like prophets and And poets and all the other, you know authors of the

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Old Testament Who were receiving dreams or visions, you know, no more mediators like that.

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Jesus is the If it comes from his mouth, it's it's the Word of God because he is

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Like was Jeremiah said, you know no longer will everyone say to his brother

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Know the Lord because they'll all know him why because he's here. He's spoken. Yeah and that and that flowing what's also amazing is you know, we want to when we'll have this split in between the the two covenants and But it it's a just a continuous flow that that arrangement doesn't stop and start

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It's just this continuous flow. There's no, you know, no replacement. There's no getting rid of there's no adding in an addition to or Changing it's a continuous flow.

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It was all pointing to Jesus and Jesus is continuing that mission All throughout the rest of time

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Yep, just amazing thing So you're gonna be a Presbyterian soon. I am a reformed

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Covenanter Baptist a One step at a time Well, I gotta start somewhere

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Dan is trying to get me to change my title above my name And I know you know, if if the guys from the reform pub could both go then the guys from From truth and love podcast can both

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Presbyterian Well, I don't know. I guess What's gonna be the the major divide between us?

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Yeah, I know it's baptism And I'm really not sure as far as the you know, the secondary issues

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Well once Church Polity Church Polity, that's right Church Polity, but we have hit we've hit a rabbit trail we'll cover

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Which well just since you brought up Church Polity, that's what we're gonna be talking about Thursday night on the labors podcast

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Shameless plug and then the conversation on baptism is coming up three weeks

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Three more episodes counting this one coming up this week. So join us for the baptism conversation between the

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Baptist and the Presbyterian and hopefully our Church of God brother That'll be fun.

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It will be it will be More interesting to see what John will say than you

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Yeah See where they're coming from, you know, that's right. That's right. Well and Keith Keith Foskey He has added it to his calendar.

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He's super busy. He is part of the truth and love Network He is at your Calvinist on Twitter and he does a lot of good

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YouTube and Facebook videos kind of satire Baptist satire

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And so we're I'm excited to have Keith And I didn't realize that he was he was a doctor so we

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I'm honored to have him on the network As much as I am anybody else, but I'm I am honored to have

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Dr. Keith Foskey on the network and I listened to a debate It was on the

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Sabbath. I think that he posted that he did a while back That was a good debate.

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And so I'm excited to hear Or Okay, we need to do a labors podcast on the

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Sabbath Because that would be a difference between us And I throw you come around But I think speaking of the baptism issue

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I am looking into it more and I I think that I'm I'm in a position where I would

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I Would make the Baptist also turn their head and cause them to think

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And I can't wait to have that conversation with you to bounce it off you guys to see what you say So I'm not only going to be

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Differing from the Presbyterians. I may cause a few Baptist to turn their head and think so It'll be interesting so back to Hebrews back to Hebrews What was it that I had us set aside and to come back to You were gonna make a point and I can't remember what it was.

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Yeah All right, so the theme of Hebrews I would say based on what we were talking about Dan That continuous flow the author of Hebrews is trying to remind them that The God has this arrangement and continuous flow throughout time

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Jesus is the The culmination the the peak of it.

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He is greater than than everything. There's There's no need to go back

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Because it was all pointing to him and these are all the ways that Jesus is greater and better than then all these things that you're tempted to go back to Because it was all pointed to him.

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And the first thing that he starts off with is angels Let me read verse 4 and you can give me some thoughts then verse 4 having become as much better than the angels as He has inherited a more excellent name than they

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Yeah a couple things in there one angels is a transliteration of Angelos, which is

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Just a word for messenger so it can be speaking of a

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Human messenger or a what we would consider angelic messenger a spiritual messenger

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I think both are in view, but it does specifically I think Lead us to believe a spiritual messenger if you look down in verse 14

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Talking about are they not all ministering spirits out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?

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so I think The the human messengers are in view because of what was said earlier about Speaking through the prophets but his point isn't so much that he's greater than other humans but greater than even other spirits who are sent out by God to To minister to mankind

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Second point I would say from there is what is the name that he is inherited?

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What is his name? Robert What I'm saying which on the spot well what

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I'm saying how I would answer that question and and I'm open to correction, but It's what he's already stated a couple times

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He his his name or his title now is is the Sun which he's always been the

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Sun from eternity past but I'm saying that his name which is which is greater than all the others is the

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Sun Well, I don't think you're wrong but Let me maybe throw a twist in there for you, okay

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This goes back to that that whole Trinity thing Long ago at many times in many ways

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God spoke to our fathers by the prophets I spoke now he's spoken to us by his son.

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So I think you're you're right there son is At least an aspect of the name that's here in verse 4

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But it says that he is the radiance of the glory of God the exact imprint of his nature He upholds the world or the universe by the word of his power

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He also sits at the right hand of God in heaven Before you give your answer right right before you give your answer.

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Can I take another guess? Sure, I'll say okay. So go ahead and then right before you give your answer.

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I want to take another stab at it. Sure Okay, so I think part of what's being brought forth here is

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Christ deity so the name That would be his that would be inherited as son would be so Since he's also referencing the the prophets and those who spoke of old

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Which he continues to do in the verses that we're going to look at tonight He's going back to those prophets and it was prophesied that he would be called

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Emmanuel God with us You're also not wrong.

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I Think the name that he's inherited because of his status as son is

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Yahweh Okay, and And here's why? When you go throughout the

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New Testament you watch where the New Testament quotes the name

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Yahweh From the Old Testament When it quotes it you can see that Quotation being used of the

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Father You can see it being used of the Son and you can be you see it being used of the

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Holy Spirit So all three in the New Testament are The when they quote from the

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Old Testament Yahweh it said of all three persons of the Trinity So when here it's saying

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Is it talking about the the deity of the Son I'm speaking of Christ deity.

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This is why he is much more spectacular He has the exact imprint of his nature.

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He is the radiance of the glory of God. He's calling him God So the name that he has on the basis of his sonship,

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I believe is Yahweh now, I don't know if that's a specific answer that I would

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Nail down and hang my hat on but I think that's the point of what's being said here

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Why is his name more superior more excellent than theirs?

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his name is God their name is servant

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So whether or not it is actually Yahweh in view, that's the idea the gist behind it that Jesus is

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God they are not which is seen brought out in the the verses that follow because it says

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Different things saying this is something that can only be said of God. This is something that can only be said of God Whereas when he speaks of the angels, he says this then it goes on it does the same thing again

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This is what's said of God. This is what's said of God, but he doesn't say those things of The angels so the point being made is that the name is

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He's God, right? Jesus is God, right? Does that make sense?

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Yeah, I'll follow you. I'll follow you We'll see people agree or not, but Well, at least

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I have a case for it, yeah, I mean it makes sense and it's and it's true Something else,

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I think we should we should tackle here, which we will be tackling I think

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So it'll be good to to get off the start starting blocks here with this verse because we're gonna tackle it in these in these following verses is a parent discontinuity or apparent contradiction that you have here in this verse and in the following verses and so where you see that is so if If you're correct, and if what

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I'm saying was great Jesus is Emmanuel Jesus is Yahweh Jesus is God.

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That's that's what we're saying that Hebrews is saying right and the Emmanuel meaning God with us, right?

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Right. So we I mean we were on the same page there. Yeah, if that is true Then he is then he is eternal.

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He is he's always existed. He's always been there. So here you have a word that is

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Anthropomorphic It's it's a language that that we can understand and it's applied here to Jesus where it says he has inherited

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So, how can how can God inherit something? How do we make sense of that well inheritance is language of Family of Son of Passing of air or air airship is airship a word not not like zoom but It is now heir ship

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It's that language. It's it's what? What is there is mine?

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Even if I need to take possession of it And that that's one of those things

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Christ is taking possession of the entirety of the universe

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He's pulling it back from sin death and the devil is already purchased salvation No dealt the death blow now.

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All things are being put under his feet So when it says that he's inheriting

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Or inherited a name more excellent than theirs. It's it's the nature of Sonship airship

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Which is linked to his being God Now One of the things about Inheriting something and being a son is

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Beginning or begotten know what does that mean? We're not saying that there was a time when

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Jesus was not and now he is Right. Um, so what does that mean?

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And we have to look that's one of those instances where we if we're going to understand it at all We have to let scripture interpret scripture.

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What is it saying? When it says you are my son like go into verse 5

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No fruit to which of the angels did God ever say in other words, this isn't angle angel language.

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This is God head language You are my son today I've begotten you what does it mean to be get

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Jesus and Wonderful fashion.

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I was gonna say luckily, but no Providentially the Holy Spirit has placed this in two different portions of scripture

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But this quotation comes from the Psalms and then it is used again in a sermon in acts 13 where he actually expounds upon what he means he gives a

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Kind of a timeline of what it means to be get so let's run to First let's run to Psalm 2 because this is where the quotation comes from Psalm 2 verse 7

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Psalm 2 is that song where it talks about the nation's raging the people's plotting against God and God's sitting in the heavens and laughing

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And then after he laughs his his you know the smile on his face turns to something

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Horribly terrifying and he speaks of his wrath and his fury and he says as for me

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I've set my king on my holy hill no on Zion on my holy hill

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Verse 7 I will tell of the decree This is a decree of God the

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Lord said to me you are my son Today I have begotten you

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Ask of me and I will make the nation's your heritage in the ends of the earth your possession

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You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel so there is a point in time where the

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Where the the the Sun is going to ask for the nation's he's going to receive them

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He's going to break them with a rod of iron and dash them like the pieces of a potter's vessel

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We're also going to speak carefully here because there is a There's some false teaching that Arises surrounding this subject called the eternal subordination of the

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Sun and I wanted from the get -go We're not talking about that that is a branch of a certain type of error in understanding the

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Godhead So what what does that mean and in the book of Acts?

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chapter 13 it's used as a part of a a Sermon Paul and Barnabas or Antioch They're speaking to to a group of people and Let's go to verse

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We'll say 26 He's kind of recounting Israel's history and showing how

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Jesus coming is a an Outworking of the history of Israel that brings salvation from the

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Jews to all of believing mankind His brothers

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Sons of the family of Abraham and those among you who fear God to us has been sent the message of this salvation

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For those who live in Jerusalem and their rulers because they did not recognize him Nor understand the utterances of the prophets which are read every

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Sabbath Fulfilled them by condemning him. In other words. They didn't know the scripture.

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So they fulfilled the scriptures by Condemning Christ to death and Though they found in him.

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No guilt was worthy of death. They asked Pilate to have him executed and They had carried out all that was written of him

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And when they had carried out all those written of him, they took him down from the tree and laid him in the tomb

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But God raised him from the dead And for many days he appeared to those who had come up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem Who are now his witnesses to the people and we bring you the good news that what

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God promised to the fathers? This he has fulfilled to us

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Their children by raising Jesus as also it is written in the second

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Psalm You are my son Today I have begotten you

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So when it talks about Begetting the son it is related to the resurrection of Jesus Which one of the angels did

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God say you are my son. I am bringing you to life none but to the son

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He said you are my son And I'm going to bring you to life you who have entered the grave you who took the sins of others upon yourself you who were

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Condemned and hung on the cross and died and laid in the grave You are being risen you were being made alive you were my son

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Today I have begotten you right, right Do you think it would be appropriate to to think about it metaphorically?

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Because when we see the word begotten we think about birthing, you know, we think about You know our natural lives and birthing a child

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Such and such begat such -and -such. We're familiar with that in Scripture, but metaphorically

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He is birthed into this this position I don't know if I would say metaphorically.

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I think scripturally this is an idea that that is It's not just here because Jesus is also called the firstborn of all creation, right?

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So what is it that's being? born or begotten here is Redeemed humanity.

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It's not that Jesus wasn't around or that Jesus didn't take on Human flesh beforehand, but what we see in his resurrection is a resurrection

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Resurrected Christ a Christ who has defeated death one who was considered the firstborn of his brothers

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He goes on in the same passage in Acts and says and as for the fact that he raised him from the dead

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No more to return to corruption. He has spoken in this way. I will give you the holy and sure blessings of David Therefore he says also in another psalm.

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You will not let your Holy One see corruption so He goes on For David after he served the purpose of God in his own generation fell asleep and was laid with his father's and saw corruption

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But he whom God raised up did not see corruption Let it be known therefore brothers that though that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you and By him everyone who believes is freed from ever free from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses So the the begetting the sonship the being of firstborn of all creation is speaking of His raising from the dead his fulfilling of the law and his

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Not is fulfilling of all of the the Old Testament promises Especially the ones referring to David the the type and shadow that David had of Christ is fulfilled

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Especially in Christ's resurrection because he never did see corruption. Whereas David did see corruption, right?

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That's right. And I don't know if I answered your question. Exactly. I got a little lost there. It was good stuff

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So I just good enough good enough. Well, there's something else interesting in Psalm 2 So if you look back at verse verse 7 8

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I will surely tell the decree of the Lord. He said be you you are my son today I begotten you ask of me and I will surely give the nations as your inheritance and the very ends

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The earth is your possession. So for the author and the readers there What was you gonna say?

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No, no, go ahead. You're gonna talk about inheritance. Yeah, well For the author of the readers that was to come that was in the future

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But for us that has happened that it's not so if you if you read the verses down below where you stopped

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I mean especially those of us who hold to post -millennialism or or how we should speak into and bringing up what you were talking about earlier about how we are to intervene and speak into Culture society.

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I mean listen listen to how he's speaking to Those in authority after he makes this announcement

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There's there's this thing that's gonna happen and for us it has happened and he says now therefore old

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Kings show discernment Take warning old judges of the earth worship the

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Lord with reverence and rejoicing with trembling Do homage to the

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Son that he not become angry and you perish in the way for his wrath may soon be kindled How blessed are all who take refuge in him?

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So How do we need to be speaking in the culture, how do we need to be speaking to those in authority?

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Jesus is King therefore honor him as King in your position

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Lest he become angry Yeah, it It goes on the second half of verse 5 is another quotation

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I will be a father to him This is back in Hebrews, I will be a father to him a father and he shall be to meet a son this is the from the the

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Covenant found in 2nd Samuel 7 Specifically from verse 14

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But it also says and again when he brings the firstborn into the world It's being the one being

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Christ. He says let all God's angels worship him Hmm and I mean we really should go to all of the references and look at all those passages and see how they fit together because One of our main points of the last episode we did was that all of these things all of these facets these these little cuts of the diamond are or Working together to show one true whole reality in Christ So psalm 2 is connected to 2nd

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Samuel 7 is connected to Deuteronomy 32 and psalm 97 the idea of sonship inheritance the resurrection from the dead the preaching of Salvation that came through the

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Jewish nation and spread to all the families of the earth. It's all one big

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Story that it was Unfurled for us throughout the

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Old Testament and pointed very specifically at Christ In the in the end of it, right?

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Right? You got it Well, I can tell what you got yeah

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I didn't I didn't know if you wanted to continue to look at more those references or not, but Something specific about this passage that has caused me to stop and think and I was trying to find that verse but we'll get to it a little bit later as we walk through Hebrews, but okay, so The the last part of verse 6 and let let all the angels of God worship him

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But you think about Go over to chapter 2 verse 7 you have made him for a little while lower than the angels

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So so for this little while Jesus was made lower than the angels I guess by becoming becoming a man putting on flesh.

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He become a little lower than the angels, right? But yet even while he was here a little lower than them

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They Didn't let that stop their worship. They didn't they didn't see him in that light they continue to You go to his his temptation and he was successful in the wilderness and they come to him and minister to him

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They they did not cease to serve him. They didn't cease to worship him as God as he truly is right

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This this that that you're bringing out in the catechism says

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Causes Christ's humiliation Christ's humiliation consisted in him being born and born in a low condition made under the law undergoing the miseries of this life the pain and death of the cross and being buried and remaining under The power of death for a time

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That was all his humiliation, but you're right because If you remember from from Philippians, it says that was a

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Philippians 2 said that while being God Thought it not robbery to be equal with God There's other phrasing and I've probably butchered that but the idea is the same that Christ when he came to the earth came in a humiliated position and while he

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Was still divine still deity still God Came in the humiliated form in order to accomplish or Inherit That firstborn status that begetting status which was his

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Resurrection from the dead. So he underwent that humiliation for a time so that his exaltation

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Would be that much more grand, right, right Would be procured for for his people

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Right. Well it as as far as a little bit of application goes we want to We want to be lockstep with the angels here and and I think it's probably one of the reasons why scripture tells us to Set our mind on things above Because we want to continually see

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Jesus as he is for years and who he is Continuously just like the angels did even though he he took on that Humiliation he become for a little while lower than than the angels.

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They They Knew better than to to treat him that way

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They they knew that they should continue to worship him continue to ministers and serve him because of who he is

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Even even the demons did remember the demons said why have you come?

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It's not time for you to torment us yet Yeah, and they still even so they had respect for him

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They knew exactly who he was and the power that he that he had but they said well, why are you here?

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You're not supposed to regain your your your status yet. You're not supposed to Know treat us like you're not supposed to punish us like we deserve.

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Yeah, and they obeyed him exactly who he was Mm -hmm, and they obeyed him. Yep When he said, you know leave and go into the peace they obeyed they immediately left and went

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Right, and in that that was even when no When he's still a little lower than the angels yet even then they still listen to him because of who he is

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He is God. That's right And so that takes us back to the that Psalm of chapter 2 passage where the the author was telling his audience

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This is yet to come But look at it as if it's reality Right.

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So we as as we are people who are setting our minds on things above That's the reality that we're living in and that's that was something that was brought up in in the podcast

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I'm not sure if you listen to that episode or not, but he was talking about we We worship in spirit and in truth he was saying that Translating that word truth

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Could be understood as reality. Yeah, we our reality is

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Spiritual our interpretation of script of scripture is spiritual this this new covenant is spiritual and so the reality of our lives and Is spiritual and we should kiss continually set our mind on things above and and live

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Spiritually and when we say spiritual are you capitalizing that s? Yes Yes, I would say so because it wouldn't be just enough to To say it's from the spiritual realm but that it is

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Spiritual as in the world. I mean the spirit and spirit and in truth, I think should be capitalized as well

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When we worship we worship in spirit in the spirit in the

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Holy Spirit and truth or reality Yeah, and Jesus is that reality is the truth.

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Yep Well, that's that's some deep and that's what good stuff

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You may not made me go Baptist for a second about throughout a glory hallelujah in there That'll be okay

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Vespeterians here. Oh So, where do we end up I don't know we we've been bouncing around between five and six we should

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Well, we got we got about eight minutes before we hit an hour Yeah, let's look at the second part of verse five

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Okay, where it says I will be to him a father and he shall be to me a son

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Because that that may take a bit of time If you look at let's look at 2nd

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Samuel Seven got a turn there

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Second Samuel 7 is quoted in verse 14. Oh, you got a reverse 13.

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Oh, well, we got to read a lot of it That that specific part portion is is in verse 14, let's find a good place to back up to Verse 12, that's a good one.

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That's a good one that that helps defeat this this idea that that Jesus is gonna

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Has to come down and sit on a physical throne Because he's got to sit on David's throne

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Well, they even think that just because David's not there. It's still his throne. So Samuel sat on David's throne and I guess the

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Kingdom of Judah would have been David's throne and not Israel I Didn't ask that many questions when

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I took my dispensationalism class and in The grad school seminary, whatever you want to call it

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Let's start in verse 8.

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I Don't know it starts on a paragraph mark in my Particular section.

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I'm with you Now therefore thus you shall say to my servant David This is the

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Lord's talking to Nathan. So Nathan is supposed to tell David this Thus says the

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Lord of hosts. I took you from the pastor from following the sheep That you should be

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Prince over my people Israel. I Have been with you wherever you went and have cut off all your enemies from before you

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And I'll make for you a great name Like the name of the great ones of the earth

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And I will point a place for my people Israel And I will plant them so that they may dwell in their own place and be disturbed no more

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And violent men shall afflict them no more as formerly from the time

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I appointed judges over my people Israel and I will give you rest from all your enemies wherever the

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Lord declares that you to you that the Lord will make you a house When your days are fulfilled and you lie down with your fathers

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I Will raise up your offspring after you so here's where we start Picking up some of the language.

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Who is this offspring that's coming after him who shall come from your body and I will establish his kingdom

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Here's the thing. There's already a kingdom established. So he's talking about establishing the kingdom of this other guy the

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Offspring of David he shall build a house for my name and I will establish the throne of this kingdom forever

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Amen, and I will be to him a father and he shall be to me a son That's what's being quoted here in the book of Hebrews I will be to him a father and he shall be to me a son now.

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Here's what's important Some people will try to say this was Samuel some people say this was

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Jesus in the future Whichever you want to look at The book of Hebrews says that this is about Jesus so verse 14 is about Jesus now here's

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Here's the difficult part because this next sentence is gonna make people go

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Well, how is that Jesus? when he commits iniquity How's Jesus gonna commit iniquity well, hold on we'll get there

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I would discipline him with the rod of men with the stripes of the sons of men

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But my steadfast love will not depart from him as I took it from Saul whom

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I put away before you He says in you your house and your kingdom shall be made sure forever before me your throne shall be established

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Forever so there's a throne that's gonna be established forever. It's not gonna be taken away because of some iniquity that Well, it says

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Jesus So, how do we understand when it says when he commits iniquity and part of it?

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I think is a translational thing and part of it is a

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Where we we have to understand An Imputation of sin

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Though the word there for commits sin for commit or does sin or translations say

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It's kind of a commit or does iniquity or does sin is some idea.

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There is a Va It can also mean to pledge or bind to a course or a course of action

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What's being talked about there is the sins of men Coming upon Christ at the cross

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So taken from us and bound to him, right? So the idea is is a pledge or or bound to a course there is sin

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That was just as if he had committed that sin placed upon him

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Now it doesn't say it's placed upon him here. It just says commit but we understand that Jesus being

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God Has no sin of his own right so he knew no sin became sin

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He became sin. So did he actually do that sin?

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No, but was that sin placed on his I? Want to say account, but was it placed upon him?

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And the answer is yes. Yeah, and Then what did the father do? When he says

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I will be a father to him and he shall be to me a son he saw his son with that sin upon him and he

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I Will discipline him with the rod of men with the stripes of the sons of men

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That was the cross but my steadfast love will not depart from him as I took it from Saul whom

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I put away before you and Then it says your throne shall be established forever so at the time of the punishment for sin at the hands of men the throne of David was established forever

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That is not angel language That is

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God language So when he says I will be to him a father and he shall be to me a son

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He's saying It's it's this whole reality Brought together.

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He is the king that was said here. I have my own King I'm your son or you're my son today.

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I've begotten you Speaking of his resurrection. I will be to him a father

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He shall be to me a son the sins that were laid upon him were punished His throne was established

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It says up here having become as much superior to the angels as the name

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He has is more inherited to them that comes right before after He says he made purification for sins and then sat down at the right hand of the father

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So these sins that were punished on him He made purification for them and then sat down next to the father that punished him using the hands of men

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Took our sin From us put it on himself and Paid for it.

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Isn't that cool? Absolutely. Absolutely. And and that leads us right into you know where we want to go

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And and I'll speak directly to everybody who's to us I'll speak directly to everybody who's who may be listening and watching now and maybe in the future that we we need to We need to heed to these passages that Hebrews is referring back to in the

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Old Testament and Learn from them and and see them just just as the authors were saying to their readers see this as a

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Reality, even though it's in our future see it as a reality and we need to see this as a reality

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Jesus is our reality and these things that that Samuel and and Psalm The book of Psalms says is is going to happen they have been accomplished in Christ and it is finished and he sits on as as Hebrews says

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In in verse 3 he sat down at the right hand of the majesty on high Jesus is our authority.

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Jesus is our King. He's fulfilled all these prophecies and it it's it's done. It's finished

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It's accomplished and we can trust in him And so just as again as the authors of these books, we're telling their people

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Honor him as that King fear him as that King set your mind on things above and continually

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See him in that reality and live your lives in that way. The problem is that we cannot

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We cannot obey that scripture just like they could not obey that scripture

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We we do not have the capability because of our fallen nature because of our sinfulness we cannot

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For the first second see Christ in that light we must have his

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Righteousness, we must have his regeneration Born in us and and worked in us

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Because without him We will We will take the rod that we deserve that well that was put on him for those that would believe

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Will receive that because we've earned it and we deserve it As he said in in in Psalm chapter 2

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Lest lest he become angry. The father is angry as sin and he will he will be just To punish sin wherever it is found and he will punish it in us if he finds us apart from Christ remaining in our sin

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But we want to be found in Christ so that when he sees us he sees Christ Just as Christ here as we talked about in in 2nd

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Samuel chapter 7 verse 14 He our sin was imputed to him.

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It was taken from us and bound to Christ Because of that and because of his resurrection

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His righteousness can be taken from him and bound to us and therefore when

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Christ sees us or when God sees us God the Father He will see the

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Son and what he accomplished on the cross in his death burial and resurrection And so we would plead

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To to hear the voice of the word tonight it was far above and Greater than all things just as we will continue to learn in Hebrews So come to him as Scripture says in repentance and faith

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Turning from yourself turning from your sin Turning from all other things and putting your faith and trust in the person and work of Jesus Christ And God promises he will give you a new heart

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You will cause you to be born again, he will give you new eyes new ears new desires and You will live joyfully in this kingdom that has been established and will endure forever

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Let us know if you have Turned to Christ in faith. Let us know if we can pray for you

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Let us know if you're looking for a good Bible Church. We'll try to help point you in the right direction Dan if you give us any last thoughts that you have and if you don't or if you do

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Will you pray for us and in closing? Yeah, let's pray Dear Heavenly Father God, we thank you for today.

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Thank you for your son. Thank you for Sending him to the world to pay for our sins

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God. We pray as we go that you would keep us Help us to grow in grace and know you more and more

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Christ name we pray. Amen. Amen Thank you everybody for watching again, we really appreciate it

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Hope you will join us again next time to continue to walk through the book of Hebrews. Remember that Jesus is

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King You'll live in the victory of Christ to speak with the authority of Christ and go share the gospel of Christ.