Romans 15:16 - The Offering Up Of Our Prayers (02/05/2023)

Well, you're saying our new song leader didn't last very long. My son

Matt stood up here last Sunday and announced that he had been asked to be the new music minister and he would accept that challenge and now he's out, ill today.

So you guys did a good job of trying to get out of the responsibility but not successful. So anyway, we hope

Matt's better and back next Sunday and he started to put together special music too but even when he's not here we always have special music.

Thank you, Glenda. That was beautiful. So anyway, about John and Charlotte, when we first got, no you don't get the microphone.

I got the microphone. We might let you have it eventually. But anyway, when we were first saved and moved back to Mahea, we went back to the church we grew up in and they were attending that church at that time.

First Baptist in Mahea and it was a joy. John was a deacon, probably hadn't been a deacon that long at that time and a new deacon

I guess or I'd just say at least a young deacon in the church and they invited us over to their home every week and we'd go, they'd just take us through,

I think the one I remember we started in the book of John, just started reading through the book of John together informally but just reading through it and talking about it and that was our first real exposure to just a real

Bible study. Everything else we'd ever had in our lives was just like a quarterly thing or something.

You know how churches have quarterlies but this was just going through the Bible together and it's great. Then another couple joined us and he had been like one of the most popular kids in school.

His name was Eddie Boyd and he had gotten saved and might have been the last person high school kids would have thought would be saved, right?

But then most of them weren't saved either so who are they to judge? But Eddie got saved and his wife and they came and joined the

Bible study. So it was the six of us for a long time and I don't remember how long, maybe a couple of years. Then John and Charlotte are the ones who introduced

Charlotte and me to Dr. Rocky Freeman against my will. I didn't want to go because I was afraid of him and John was sitting there dialing the phone.

I'm going, stop John, don't dial the phone and he says, hey brother Rocky, Dave and Charlotte want to meet you and they drove us up to Fort Worth and I'll never forget that day.

I can remember very much details of little small things that happened that day but so much of the spiritual growth in my life

I owe to these folks here. So thank you for being here so much and I will say this and you wouldn't want me to say it but I'm going to say it anyway because it's a fact, they're such good people that a lot of our modern churches after a period of time can't stand it and John usually will end up an active deacon in whatever church they're in and the devil will raise up people against this couple and attack them and they end up having to leave because they don't want to create trouble so they leave in peace and that happened a few weeks ago again.

I mean the church we were in in Mejia, it happened to you, we left first, should have listened to us but you didn't but maybe you didn't want to follow a cult leader,

I don't know because our first pastor sort of was a little bit something that the two of them saw through but me and Charlotte didn't but later we did.

But anyway, same church ended up problematic as it just continued down the road there so they ended up leaving and had a wonderful experience which they ended up going to First Methodist Church in Mejia and they felt obligated to explain that to me and Charlotte at one point, well yeah, we're not like, we're not

Methodist but like they don't know anything. It's like teaching, it's like you got a whole new audience, you can just teach the same stuff we know and it's awesome because they've never seen it before and so how long were you there?

Three, four? Three or four or five? Five years and they taught a class and the pastor there allowed them to do it and they taught, you know, they just taught the

Bible to the folks who had not had real Bible studies like that and it was the second largest church in town

I guess, maybe Church of Christ, maybe it was the third but and the Lord allowed them to do that and then they felt you probably needed to be fed some yourselves so you ended up moving to Fairfield and all this time they were in Mejia which is where we are and that's where we all grew up together but then they moved to Fairfield and at the time they loved the pastor at the church where they were there and then

I don't remember what happened but he moved on and then the new pastor that's been there lately, not so much and he actually allowed this trouble to happen, the pastor did in my opinion but and I've never even met him but I just, it just eats on me when

I see you guys go through this but you just go through it like the Lord would, humble and you know, just go through it so bless your hearts.

It's a great loss to both churches by the way that you two left. So by the way, how long did it take you to get here?

Like 30 minutes, it took me 42 minutes so kind of the same, so just saying, anyway, so everybody, oh you want me to pick you up,

I would have but so everybody treat them real nicely long enough to get them to just come here and then get mean later, right?

We have, we haven't had a problem in our church and we're here, how long has it been since we've had trouble in this church?

Never, you know, it's been a long time, well since Otis came, right? Once he got here, yes ma 'am, you ma 'am.

I know, that's sad, wow, wow, so yeah.

Well, we will keep that in mind, First Baptist Fairfield and anyway, we are so happy you're here today and we will treat you nicely while you're here.

Turn with me to the book of Romans chapter 15 verse 16 and that's our sort of our launching point as you know and we launched off from that, we're going verse by verse through the book of Romans but sometimes when we see a verse that speaks of a major Bible theme or a doctrine, major doctrine, we'll stop and take a trip out through the whole of the

Bible looking for the lessons on that particular doctrine. Well this one, I'll read it first and then

I'll explain. So Romans chapter 15, 16, I'm not even going to read the whole verse but it talks about the fact that God would bless the offering of the

Gentiles and make their offering acceptable and it's interesting because Paul, everywhere he went, he preached to the

Jew first and then to the Gentile and he was always having to convince the Jew that God would even save a

Gentile and I mean everywhere he went, it's like he's trying to let the

Jew know, yes, God will save all men, not just Jews and so this was going on here as well and he brings up this fact that the offering of the

Gentiles is acceptable. So we kind of launched out and took a look at what the whole

Bible says about this concept of the believer priest and the fact that we as Gentiles do offer up spiritual offerings to the

Lord. They're not the same as physical sacrificing animals and things like that but they are offerings in a spiritual sense.

In fact, the Old Testament offerings of the animals were pictures of the spiritual offerings that we would offer in this age and the scripture says in two places in the

New Testament that the Old Testament was given for those of us who live in the last of the age as end samples or examples and so everything we see in the

Old Testament, all those beautiful stories, they're all real life stories of real things that happened but they also teach us spiritual truths about the

New Testament doctrines about what the Lord has for us as well. So the Old Testament is very, very important to the

New Testament Christian. Well so we've kind of been going out through the Bible and talking about these believer priest ideas and first of all the duties,

I'm trying to put that in and my computer's in the way down there. We have duties as believer priests.

We went through and we talked about those things and then we sort of ended up going back and looking at the

Old Testament wilderness tabernacle as a picture of as the believer priest goes into that outer court and into the inner court and then once a year the high priest goes into the

Holy of Holies, all of that pictures we as believer priests, believe it or not. In fact, the wilderness tabernacle or the temple when it was made into a temple, it's still pictured the same things.

It actually can be a picture of you, the believer. It's also a picture of Jesus Christ but it can be a picture of you and me because the outer court pictures our flesh, our body, physical body that we live in.

The inner court is a picture of our soul which is an interface between our body and our spirit and then the

Holy of Holies is a picture of our spirit because that's the place where we meet with God.

Our spirit is what is the part of us that can communicate with God and all of that are pictures for us to learn more about our relationship with the

Lord and to learn more about the Lord. We've been talking about that for quite a while and in recent

Sundays we had come up to around, if you'd like to turn to 2 Chronicles 29, that's where we have been lately talking about the believer priest and then really more specifically lately talking about that temple and how it's a picture of us and how it can help us to realize how we ought to live and how we can actually call upon some of the very things that God has given us to help us live right.

He's given us many tools to help us live right and we know we're not saved by our works, are we?

But we had the sermon Brother John preached, John King preached last Sunday. It was great and effectively, you know, he gave this equation that to me when he first did it,

I said, that does not sound right. I don't know how many of you felt that way, but I felt like that does not sound right. But as he took us through Ephesians chapter 2, he proved that the formula was actually exactly right and it went something like this, faith and then an equal sign and then justification plus good works.

Now see that does not, it doesn't sound right, does it? And it wouldn't be right if you turned it around the other way because it doesn't require a good mixture of anything to be saved such as no good works.

It doesn't require that. It's just faith. But he was pointing out, yeah, well, faith is on this side of the equation.

But once you, God gives that to you as a gift and you have genuine saving faith, justification is what comes with it, but also good works and he proved that of course with Ephesians 2 chapter 2 verse 10, right?

We're also ordained that we would do good works. That's part of God's ordained plan as well.

So obviously good works come with it and it doesn't cause it. It's the effect of it, of salvation, not the cause.

But it is, I mean, the whole book of James is about the effects pretty much. Some of it's about the cause, like two or three verses, but the rest of the whole book is about effects of salvation.

How when you really are born again, things change, you act differently, you feel differently, you are different.

And so you have good works that you used to, wouldn't even think of doing. And then you get to the place where you, a lot of times you don't even think of doing it and you do a good work and you might not even know you did one.

He talked about a lot of that last Sunday. Well, when you look at this, where it takes the old

Testament tabernacle or the temple, if you get to the place where they built the temple, a picture, there are many pictures and examples in that that can show us tools that we can use together with God in our lives to live a better life and to just be better men and women.

And that's not something the new modern church talks about a whole lot. Today, it seems like we've diverged into two groups.

You have the legalist, we've got a couple of women going around that are just teaching horrible works, salvation stuff.

And there are people that I know, I grew up with one of them and the other one was a woman that went to our church a long time ago and just love her, but bless their hearts.

They're off. So you have that side of it, just legalism. And then you go over to the other side where it's just grace.

But by grace, what they mean is you can just live any way you want to, right?

And that's kind of what we have in America now. Somewhere, most places gravitate to one end of the spectrum, not in the middle anywhere.

And the truth of the matter is that the cause of salvation is why we were yet in our sins hath he quickened us.

It's called regeneration and God does it to us. And that's the cause. Everything else is an effect, but the effects are important.

And you have to, the whole book of James asks the question, okay, if the effects are not there, is the person really saved?

Don't you think that's what it asks? Great question. An important question today. So let's look at some of this.

Now, I'll review just a hair in 2 Chronicles 15, 8.

It starts talking about how there was a king, and I believe it goes through several different kings in this study, by the way, but it started out with Asa, who was a good king for most of his life.

Charlotte hates reading about the king because they start out great, and a lot of times they end up terribly. But Asa did pretty well, although at the end he did a couple of questionable things, but not as bad as most of them.

But the point is, the wonderful thing about Asa when he was a young man, he recognized that the priests had not taken care of the tabernacle.

They weren't even using it. They weren't even doing the Passover anymore. They hadn't seen the scrolls, the scripture for years, and the door to the temple didn't even work.

You couldn't hardly open it and get in there. That was the state it was in. All of that, you think about that temple, it is at least a picture of where they met with God, right?

So it's a picture of us in the sense that the Holy Spirit lives within us, he dwells within us, and somewhere in your brain, your spirit and his spirit become one spirit when your spirit filled, and you walk with God, and that is a picture of that place, and they were totally deserting it, having nothing to do with it.

Friends, that is a picture of us when we're in the flesh. It's a picture of us when we choose, we make the choice to walk in the flesh for minutes or hours or days or whatever, and we just totally neglect the temple.

This is a picture of this. It's a physical example that will teach us spiritual lessons about ourselves that can be pretty powerful.

So the first thing that we saw was he commanded them to go in to the inside and clean out the inside of that temple around where the altar was, and to put the altar back where it worked again, put the utensils back in there and all the things they needed to do the

Passover, and so they went to the inside first, and that pictures us, the first place we, if we find ourselves backslidden, the first place we got to go is to the inner man and get right, right?

We've got to get right on the inside. It doesn't help us to go out and try to do a bunch of good works because it'd be hypocritical.

You got to start on the inside. So that's what that picture. And then we saw, if you go out to chapter 29, verse 16, and some places like that, you see that from once the inside is cleaned up, they started moving out towards the outer court, which is a picture of our body.

And we talked about different scriptures we looked at there in the New Testament, such as in Ephesians chapter four, starting with verse 22, going down through there where it says, you know, be angry and sin not.

It teaches us a lot of things about how to treat one another kindly and love. And so once the inside is right with God, the outer side, the body can be used to serve the

Lord and to serve each other. And so we talked about some of the New Testament concepts that that relates to. And so then just the last time that I spoke, which we had a guest speaker last

Sunday, and then we were on vacation before that. So the last time where we were, was that we were talking about how did they get to this place in the first place?

How did they get to where the sanctuary was filthy? Which is a picture of the inside of us not being right, our spirit and soul not being right so that the things we're doing with our body in the outer world are just wrong, sinful things, wrong things, hurtful things.

We hurt other people, things like what's happening in that church. What's the cause of that?

And that's what this relates to, because you don't have the inside right. The outside is going to just not be right. And you're still going to think it is, but it's not because we'll be deceived, won't we, often.

And so we're at the place now in this study where we're talking about how did they get there in the first place.

So turn to 2 Chronicles 29, 4, and we'll read verses 4, 5, and 6 here together.

And he brought in the priest and the Levites and gathered them together into the east street and said unto them, hear me, ye

Levites, sanctify now yourselves and sanctify the house of the Lord God of your fathers and carry forth the filthiness out of the holy place.

Now remember where the holy place is in the tabernacle. It's not the holy of holies.

It's the next place as you go out. So it's the holy place is the place.

Well, let's start going in. It's easier. You've got the outer court, which is only the place if they did have

Gentile proselytes, that's where they had to be. They couldn't go any further. But when you go through a curtain into the next area, that's called the holy place.

And that's where the altar was, where they actually did the sacrifices. And we talked about the different things that are in these rooms and what they picture and all that.

I'm not going to go back over that, but that particular place is the place they were cleaning out and getting the altar back in shape where it worked right.

And all that, all the utensils in place and all of those things were happening. So they had to take the filthiness out of there because there apparently people had taken things in there that shouldn't be in there.

And they profaned the place and made it filthy and they had to clean it out.

And so look at verse six and this verse six begins to show how this happened in the first place.

And that's really what today's message is about. For our fathers have trespassed and done that which was evil in the eyes of the

Lord, our God, and have forsaken him and have turned away their faces from the habitation of the

Lord and turned their backs. And that's where we get the idea of backslidden, by the way. And so here we see three things that the people before this time had done that caused it to get in this place that they had to fix it.

The problem, how did it get in this place of abuse and non -use? And the first thing is their fathers trespassed and did evil in the eyes of the

Lord. That's just sin. They first allowed sin to come into their lives and got used to it and got familiar with it and stopped thinking about walking with the

Lord. And that was the first step. And then the second step is they then forsook the

Lord, which means they stopped coming to the temple. They stopped coming to the sanctuary.

That's how it got in a place of disorder. They stopped using it. I kind of find it sad to look what

COVID's done to the church. I mean, you know, people are slowly coming back to physical worship and it's nice.

One good thing that happened was you can gain a lot of wonderful people who can listen in through Zoom, through the internet.

We have our friends out there. How are you guys doing today? And that's a blessing. And we have many and they live too far to come here anyway.

And they may or may not have a good church in their area they can go to. That's a wonderful blessing. But the other side of that coin is a lot of people just have gotten used to not going and they just stay home now.

And so this is one of the things that happened. These people had forsaken the

Lord and they stopped doing the things the Lord wanted them to do that made them good people of God.

And they just got to thinking about the things of the world, the things of the flesh. And they got so ingrained into that, that sinful lifestyle and that lifestyle of forsaking

God and just going after the things of the world, the cares of the world, the seedfulness of riches, the pride of life, those things that they didn't even realize how backslidden they were, perhaps.

And so they obviously let the temple just fall apart because that's the place where God was.

That's what it pictures for them. It was where the presence of God was. For us, it's a picture of God meeting with us in the heart and in our soul, in the midst of ourselves is where he meets with us.

And so that is a picture of us neglecting ourselves. Think about it.

We allow our body to start to be used for sin again. We allow our minds to be thinking about bad thoughts again, and then we don't bring them back under subjection as we ought to.

Good Christian ought to always be thinking about what he's thinking about, right? And we stray away from that. And as we do, all of a sudden, the inner part of us gets in disarray, just like this pictures.

So first sin entered in and then they forsook God and didn't want to be around him.

And then we see the third step that happened. It says, and they have turned away their faces from the habitation of the

Lord. Now in their time, that Holy of Holies, that third place in the tabernacle where only one man, the high priest could go one time a year and not without blood and meet face to face, so to speak, with at least we'll call it the

Shekinah glory, because God, the father cannot be in a place. He's a spirit being he's not in the

Holy of Holies. What is in there is a bit of himself. And I look at that mercy seat as a portal that goes to another dimension or something.

I don't know how to explain it. But where the father is outside of space and time, God, the father,

I'm not talking about the Holy Spirit and Jesus, but God, the father outside of space and time. He let a little bit of himself shine through at that one place.

And we call it the Shekinah glory. And the only person that ever saw it was the high priest. No one else could describe it.

But God met with him there. And that is a picture of God meeting with us along with our spirit, the

Holy Spirit and our spirit becoming one spirit. And we become spirit filled. And we now can come boldly into the presence of even

God, the father, but only by being one with the Holy Spirit, because Bible says no man has seen

God except Jesus. And Jesus is the word who explains God to us, or we would know a thing about God.

Did you realize like people will tempt you to, I'm going to pluck those tail feathers. I told him

I was going to say that. See y 'all. He and I both knew a preacher once where he was this hardline preacher and somebody got up and left and he thought he didn't like the preaching.

So he said, I'll pluck your tail feathers on the way out too. And a guy comes back and says, I'm just going to the restroom. Anyway, totally forgot where I am in the sermon, but I did get those tail feathers plucked.

Amen. Where was I? Come on, help me choir. Where was

I? Y 'all don't know. Were you asleep already? Okay.

I will recollect my thoughts. I think

I was somewhere near the Shekinah glory. And so that, that is a picture of their way of meeting with God.

Our way is much better on this side of the cross. Our way is much better. You guys are leaving too.

Okay. Don't let this thing cascade now. Y 'all be careful.

So it's a picture of how it happens inside our innermost being with God.

And so then they got to the place where they turned their backs on this place where they met with God. Now think about what that could picture for you and me.

Because where is the place we meet with God? It's not in this building. I mean, we do meet with him here collectively. And that is part of God's plan to help us be better people.

So forsake not the assembly of ourselves together, right? I mean, it's important, but we know that we truly meet with God in our innermost being.

I have a theory. I think it's somewhere in our brain. I don't know where the Holy Spirit lives within us.

What were you going to say? In our heart. But he meets with us in our body is the temple of the living

God now. So everything about this temple is a picture of us and how it works.

So when we neglect or turn away our face from the place as they pictured, the place where they met with God, it's like us totally ignoring our desire and duty and responsibility to meet with God in that place every day.

In fact, as Christians, we make moment by moment decisions rather to meet with him every day, all day.

And when we don't, when we're not spirit filled, we are in the flesh. And at that point, we can do anything.

We can do anything that can hurt people, hurt ourselves, hurt our families. So we have to make a conscious decision like they did.

Only ours is more moment by moment to not turn our backs on that innermost part of us where we meet with God all the time.

And I think that's in a sense what the scripture meant when it says pray without ceasing. It didn't really mean be asking for stuff all the time, do you think?

But it meant being an attitude of oneness with the Holy Spirit all day long, which requires some thoughtfulness, don't you think?

I mean, it took thoughtfulness on their part to decide to go to the temple, right? And have service and to take care of it.

And it takes some thoughtfulness on our part to take care of our temple, our body, which is the temple of the living

God. And to make sure that we're not trespassing and then forsaking him and then turning our backs on that temple.

So that's how they got to this place in the first place. Now in Galatians, to give you some New Testament, how it ties in with this

Old Testament concept. Actually, it's the other way around if you really wanna be honest about it.

With hindsight, we have the New Testament doctrines and the teachings, but the Old Testament adds color and depth of understanding to those teachings.

So really, when you look at the New Testament, those concepts, God says, here's how it is.

And the Old Testament says, this pictures it. So look at all these pictures and you'll learn even more about it. So that's what's happening.

But let's look at Galatians 5, 16. It says, this

I say then, walk in the spirit and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. So that is the modern methodology for what they were doing wrong with their temple.

This is how we deal with it, with our temple, the place where we meet with God, which is within our innermost being.

Is the first clue is to walk in the spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.

What does it mean to walk in the spirit? It's kind of like pray without ceasing. It's like have an attitude of who you really are all day long throughout the day.

And I know there are duties that we have. Some of the work that we do, you may be crunching numbers if you're an accountant, or you may be crunching numbers if you're an engineer, or you may be crunching numbers if you're a cook or whatever you are.

You may be doing mental work where you're not mentally talking to God all the time.

So that's not what I'm talking about. It's an attitude of oneness with him all the time, all day. And a prayer perhaps to the

Holy Spirit that when you get done with your mental duties or conversations that you have to have, that he would bring you back into that talking with God and walking with God so that all day long is like that.

It doesn't forbid us to talk with one another and to do the work that we have to do. I mean, picture Adam and Eve in the garden.

When did it say that they met with God? You remember? In the cool of the evening.

So they didn't walk with God. I mean, and it was a perfect situation, but they didn't walk with God all day long.

They walked with each other. They named the animals. They learned about the animals. They tilled the land and kept the garden and did their work.

But they had an attitude of love for God all day long. This was before sin, right?

They had an attitude like if he just popped up, showed up at any time, they would love that, right? Isn't that how they were?

Can you picture it? And then he would show up in the cool of the evening and walk with them and who knows what.

Can you imagine teaching them or whatever he did? But he had to teach, God had to personally teach

Adam and Eve everything that the world knew about God until the time of Moses, which was thousands of years later.

So he taught them everything they needed to teach their kids and grandkids to know anything about God until the time of Moses.

So he taught them a lot. So they looked forward to God showing up.

So it doesn't mean you're like a monk and all you do is think about prayer and scripture in your head all the time.

It doesn't mean that. It means you have an attitude of love for the Lord so much that when your duties and your conversations and the things you're doing are done, the

Lord just comes right back in your mind and you continue that conversation with him. And so I kind of like the drive over here because if I'm by myself, it's a great time to just talk to the

Lord and spend time with him. But anytime you have that opportunity, then that should happen.

And that's what this is picturing. If you walk in the spirit, you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.

Now in Galatians 5, 17, it says this, for the flesh lusteth against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh.

And these are contrary one to another so that you cannot do the things that you would.

Now, do you remember the apostle Paul talking about who will deliver me from the body of this death?

He said, I do that which I don't want to do. And I find myself not doing that which I would like to do.

And that's what this verse is talking about. If you get to the place where your flesh is in control, the carnal part of your mind and thinking is in control, you cannot please the

Lord. You can't have peace in your life. And it's like forsaking the tabernacle, the place where you meet with God.

So the opposite of that is if we walk in the spirit, these two are contrary to one another.

So if we walk in the spirit, then the flesh cannot gain control. Isn't that cool? So it's a key to being a better man or woman is you spend more moments talking with the

Lord, thinking about the Lord throughout the day, while you're doing the duties and things that you have to do in and around those things, but always coming back to the

Lord rather than going into those fleshly thoughts that our mind can bring up. You know, I was thinking about,

I don't know why, but well, it's in my message later.

I probably won't get to it, but Roman chapter one. So when you think about Romans chapter one, and I believe it's sometimes

I'm not sure it's exactly 21, but I think it's exactly 21 sins that are mentioned in Romans chapter 21.

You wouldn't think you'd find that many in one chapter. One of the sins is homosexuality, 20 other sins.

And of course, people today say that's not a sin. We were born that way. Well, why was it listed with 20 other sins?

Can't figure that one out. But anyway, that chapter is about 21 sins and all 21 of them come, start by not being thankful, not being thankful for the life

God gave you, not being thankful for the things he's given us, for the air that we breathe, all that.

All of those stem from lack of thankfulness. And in that chapter, it says that there are people who get to a certain place in their life and it has to be talking about the one sin of homosexuality.

When it says this, it says that God will then turn them over to a reprobate mind to do that, which is unseemly.

And think about this for a minute. Do you know that it is a fact that your mind and my mind, if you want to talk about our old man, that part of our body, that's just an organ, like our brain is like your heart or your liver, your brain is an organ.

It has been, it's like a computer that has had all kinds of foul input put in it by us from the time we were little children, especially up through the teenage years on the playground.

I mean, we went to Forest Glade for a while. I learned things on that playground I should have never learned in the wrong way, things like that.

So that brain has had all kinds of worldly, ungodly, even demonic and satanic things put into that brain of yours and mine.

And so you ever stop to think about that if you want to talk about yourself and I want to talk about myself as a new man versus an old man, and they're both there.

And the new man though is the real me, right? And it's the one that can be one with the

Holy Spirit and make this whole body turn in the direction to serve God. So the body in and of itself is not bad, depends on who's in control of it.

And did you know that that old man, that part of your brain that's fleshly and carnal is reprobate just as much as anyone mentioned in Romans chapter one.

You know what the difference between you and lost people is? You have not been turned over to it. Think about that.

Praise God when you think about that. God did not turn you over to that part of you that's still there, that's there all the time.

We call it the flesh and the bad sense, you know, the carnal sense. It's there all the time.

It's just as bad as any center you can think of on the planet for any age of time.

Yours is just as bad. Mine is just as bad, but God didn't give us over to it because he loves us and we're his children.

And he couldn't fix it. I won't say he couldn't, but I guess he couldn't because he didn't. I'll just say he wouldn't fix it.

He would not try to fix the old man. He crucified it and he created a new man.

And because you are a new man or a new woman, you are not given over to the reprobate mind that still hangs around you.

Is that weird? But isn't it wonderful? We're not given over to it.

And you know, the scripture says that he put this treasure in earthen vessels that God might get the glory.

So that tells you we have this weird situation on purpose. And when I say weird situation,

I say, you know, we're schizophrenic. We've got an old man and a new man. Which one are we right now? I don't know.

I hope while we're in church, you know, the new man's in control. But we have to be thoughtful about that because the old man, all he has to do is put a thought up there, flash it in front of you and see where you go with it.

That sounded like brother Rocky, didn't it? Just see where you'll go with it. It probably was brother

Rocky. It comes out a lot. But think about that. So, you know, you got the old man, you got the new man, but you've not been given over to the old man.

But some of the lost people, we don't know which ones yet. But some of them, which the

Bible calls goats, people that'll never be saved. They are totally given over to the reprobate mind to the point where they ain't coming back.

They're not interested in God. They have put him out of their minds. Boy, that's frightening, isn't it?

And so for us, we have not put him out of our minds.

We have not turned our backs on the tabernacle or the place we meet with God. We have moments when we do, but then we hate it.

And we go to 1 John 1, 9, don't we? And then you have to believe it. You got to believe 1 John 1, 9 because the devil didn't want you to.

And you're cleansed from all and you're clean as ever. And you get up and you go again.

And that's our weird life that we have to live. But guess what? This treasure's in earthen vessels.

It's on purpose. God ordained that we would be this way on purpose. And it pleases him that we are this way because he gets the glory when we come out on the other side and he has saved us.

And any good thing that we did do was him doing it in us. He gets all the glory. Because when we do get it right, it's because he did it in us.

He will get all the glory. And he did all this on purpose. It tells me it's the best plan. Sometimes when we're down here, it doesn't feel like it does it.

When bad things happen, when we go through the bad things that Adam and Eve asked for, when they said, oh, it's not good enough just to know good.

We want to know good and evil. So now we get both. But the good is really good, isn't it?

The blue sky, the little clouds, the beautiful blue water in the Caribbean that we got to see that all of God's creation, our babies, our grandbabies, the love that you see in the face of a little child when they look up at you and want to hold you, put those hands out.

That's God. God's showing you what his love is like. Just a little bit of what his love is like. And we have all of that.

But as far as trying to live right, we have got to remember that if we walk in the spirit, we will not walk in the flesh.

And we've got to be thoughtful about how we live. All right. So that's kind of what we see pictured here in this

Old Testament tabernacle. So the first problem that they had was that they sinned and then they turned away from God and then they turned their backs on the place where they met with God, which is like turn the back on your own mind, your own new man.

You turn your back on the new man and it's dangerous. The second thing that they did was they shut the doors.

It says, they shut the doors of the tabernacle, the Bible says, and they stopped going in and out through that door.

So think about that. Revelation 3 .20, behold, I stand at the door and knock. If any man hear my voice and open the door,

I'll come in to him and sup with him. That's fellowship. That verse is written to Christians.

If you go look at the context, it's not a get saved verse. I mean, you can use it for that. It's beautiful for that. But really it's to a

Christian. And what kind of a Christian? A Christian who has shut the door on his heart, pushed

God outside, and he's walking in the flesh for a while. And Jesus says, but I'm still right there and I'm knocking on the door.

See, that's because he has not given you over to the flesh. He has given you over to the reprobate mind. He's knocking at the door.

You open the door, he comes in. 1 John 1 .9, you agree with him that you've been sinful and he's faithful and just to forgive you of that sin.

And even the ones you don't remember to confess, because he said, then I'll cleanse you from all unrighteousness. Isn't that beautiful?

So we get up and we go again. So all of this is pictured. So the next thing they did was they pushed

God aside. They went outside, they shut the door. They let the door of the temple get in disrepair where they never let the

Lord in. And they just got calloused. And then the next thing we see, it says, also they have shut up the doors of the porch.

I mean, we're back in Chronicles now. They shut up the door in verse seven of the porch. And then the next thing it says, they put out the lamps and have not burned incense nor offered burnt offerings in the holy place unto the

Lord of Israel. Now, what does this mean that they put out the lamps and they stopped burning incense?

It's a picture of two things, the eternal presence of God in your life. But secondly, the incense or your prayers going up.

So they stopped thinking about God's presence in their life and they stopped praying. That, I mean, on our side, that's what we would do is what this pictures, what they did pictures that.

So when we stop praying, we stop walking with the Lord and we just turn our eyes towards the world system and the flesh and all that, and we get out of whack.

That's what all of this is picturing. And so you shut the door, you don't let Jesus into fellowship and then you stop burning the incense, which means you're not praying.

A lot of times the devil will come and say, well, you're walking in sin, so you can't pray. And the very thing you need to do, he convinces you, you can't do it, right?

We know the game, we know his strategies. So they put out the lamps and they have not burnt incense nor offered burnt offerings in the holy place and to the

God of Israel. So by putting out the lamps, that symbolize the eternal presence of God.

And Romans chapter 128 says this, it says, and even as they did not like to retain

God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which were not convenient.

Now that cannot happen to a believer, but it pictures the same thing that the Old Testament saints were doing here.

They shut God out, only these people, they did have a conscience that knew God, the

Romans chapter 1 people. They knew God, but they refused to worship him and they began to worship men and beasts and stars and moons and suns and everything except God.

And then they got to a place they didn't wanna retain God in their knowledge. For a Christian, we have moments where we don't retain

God in our knowledge. Did you know you can't even sin without doing that? You have to make a willful choice to push

God out of your knowledge for you to have a few moments to sin. Did you know that? I learned that by observing you.

I don't know anything about it, but I learned that by watching you guys, right? So we have the tools.

You may remember Dr. Freeman saying at one point, I've heard him say it in different churches.

He said, show me one place in the Bible that says you can't go many minutes or hours or days without sin.

He said, the Bible doesn't say you can't, but you probably won't. He would always add that. But we could, we can, we have the ability to do it.

We just have to remember that our body is the temple of the living God and this temple pictures that and we have to keep the door open.

The door of our heart has to be open to him coming in, fellowshipping with us at any time, all the time throughout the day.

And we got to desire that. And as long as we're walking that way, we won't sin. In fact, 1

John says we can't sin. And so that is the goal. Well, that's all the time we've got for today.

So I would like to keep going through this tabernacle. We'll have to pick it up next time where we left off.

Let's stand and we'll have prayer together. Lord, we thank you so much for your word and how the

Old Testament sheds light on the New Testament, gives us the colors and depths of meanings of the different teachings that we see there.

And we can dig so deeply into the things of the Old Testament scriptures.

Thank you for giving those in samples that we might learn different things about ourselves and different things about you and different things about how to walk with you.

Lord, thank you for not turning us over to a reprobate mind, for saving us, for knowing us before the foundation of the world as your own children and calling us out of darkness into your beautiful light.

And we just ask you to go with us into our week and help us to be salt and light for people that we're around.

And Lord bless us as our fellowship time today as we kind of keep the world out of this.

And we come in here as a sanctuary together. Let us have wonderful fellowship. Thank you for the meal we're about to have.

And we pray in Jesus name, amen. All right, you're dismissed if you're a visitor. We have plenty of food for everyone.