Questions and Answers with Andrew Rappaport 2

Well, welcome to the Striving for Eternity Academy. We are glad to have you with us. This is going to be a little bit of a different class than we usually have. We have been going, so far, we've been going through our class of world religions and we've been doing, well that's been our school and our class that we've been doing is an introduction to the major western religions.

We would have been doing Islam. We are not going to do that tonight because we're going to do questions and answers. We just came back from NorCal Fire and that is an event we put on, an evangelism outreach and conference that we put together.

Had a great time there, but we have a Q &A at the end of those and sometimes, like this time, we don't get to answering all of the questions. These are the ones that were not answered, so we're going to try to do that here today.

We're going to try to get to as many questions as we can. I will also encourage you, if you regularly watch the Striving for Eternity Academy and you watch live, I encourage you to go to the Striving for Eternity Ministries Facebook page, not the group, but the page and help us out.

You know, we started doing the classes on Catholicism. We started on Judaism and then did the ones on Catholicism and then we had three classes on Catholicism with thousands of comments and hundreds of commenters.

We have not been able to keep up with all of the comments. We have tons of Roman Catholics that are engaging on those videos, those classes that we did. Interesting thing, if you read those, you'll see I've been asking the same question over and over.

They keep telling me I'm wrong, that I'm attacking the church, I'm so mean, and I keep asking can you name one thing that I stated that's inaccurate? What did I say that's not true Roman Catholic teaching?

I haven't gotten that one thing yet. I'm still waiting. So if you're out there listening Roman Catholics, if you're going to say I'm wrong, if you're going to say that I'm attacking the church, at least provide the evidence.

Here's why I'm also asking you for some help here. Next class, we're going to start on Islam and so I'm sure that's really going to, I didn't expect the response we got from Roman Catholicism. I expect a response from Islam.

So if you've ever wanted an opportunity to witness to Muslims and put the classes to work, put it to the test, this is going to be the time is now. It will be next class. So that being said, let's get to some of the questions.

I did go through these questions and at least categorized them so we could try to get some of them together. I'm going to start with this one because it goes well with what we just were studying on Catholicism.

Christianity and Catholicism Are Not the Same

So the question was, what is the difference between Christianity and Catholicism? This was a question actually that I just heard recently, Matt Slick was asked on his radio program. Oh yeah, I should, hey, you like the new shirt, the new polo that they gave me?

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So I encourage you to go out to them. But Matt Slick was asked this question, what is the difference between Christianity and Catholicism as if aren't they the same thing? I dealt with this a little bit in the class that we did and the fact that they're not the same.

Catholicism doesn't say they're the same. Why? For, you know, much of 2000 years, Roman Catholicism has been killing Christians. They've been killing people who believe, well, like I believe, most of you believe.

And so they said in the Council of Trent and the Vatican Council that people who believe like you and I, those who believe in the Bible alone, those who believe in justification by faith alone are anathema, are cursed.

Throughout the centuries, they had been killing Christians. So we make this distinction between Roman Catholicism and Christianity and Christianity didn't start with Protestants in the 1500s. There have always been people who have disagreed with the Roman Catholic Church that the Roman Catholic Church killed off.

When they own the empire, when it's the emperor, you get in a situation where those that believe in the Bible alone didn't have much opportunity to publish. Remember, this is before times when publishing was as easy as it is today.

It was a time when it was very costly. And so we do have works that some people wrote and they gave their life for that. That's a good point, thank you, that's from the chat room. Someone in the chat room said about Roman Catholics, they believe that we're heretics and that's the point.

We believe they're not saved by their doctrine and if they're true to their doctrine, would believe that we cannot be in heaven and redeemed by our doctrine. So they would say that we're heretics and we'd say the same about them.

The difference is they want to be able to say, hey, we're Christians just like you. I've noticed the Mormons are doing this, the Jehovah's Witnesses are doing this. They want to be Christians just like us, yet their foundation of their religion is to say that we had problems, that we fell away, that we needed to be restored, or that we're an error and you want to be like us?

If we're an error, why would you want to be like us? T .N. Hills was the one that made that comment. Why do I bring that out? She's been one of the people that have been engaging with the Roman Catholics.

I think she even has some blogs that she has been doing. Based on that, she's been doing her own study on Roman Catholicism. I think I read the last one, I think it was part four or five, or six actually.

She's got several real good, interesting articles that she's got on her blog that she's been dealing with. T .N., if you're in the chat, if you could post the link to your blog, that way I can give people that.

Evaluating the War Room Movie

Let's move on. Next question was actually for Justin Peters, but I think I can answer this one because we talked about it. The question is, Justin, what do you think of the War Room movie? I know what Justin thinks about it because, well, he wrote an article about it.

You can go to JustinPetersMinistries, I think it's justinpetersministries .com, maybe .org. I think it's up there, is his review of War Room. It's like a 12-page review. Let me give you, in short, what his view was.

There were some good points. He's not really a fan of the Christian movie genre. I understand a lot of times they're cheesy, their doctrine's not so good. The Kendrick Brothers were doing really good quality movies theologically.

The big issue, and I agree with Justin on this one, the idea of the name it and claim it, the idea that people can just pray and God's going to give them what they want was throughout this movie supposedly.

I'm going to, for the record, I did not watch the movie, but I've read several reviews of people who have. Justin read it, so I'm telling you Justin's opinion. If this was portrayed, as Justin said, I'm totally in agreement with it.

But Justin was saying that the kind of name it and claim it type of prayer is prominent. He also had a real issue with the fact that this guy who's the main character who is just not a good guy, he's having an affair with his wife and different things like this, and they refer to him as just being backslidden.

The assumption that everyone's a believer or that there's, instead of him coming to repentance. So those are some of the issues. Justin has more that he mentioned. He had some positive things to say as well, so you can check that out.

Oh, we do? Okay. So the website for TN's blog is ktundergrace, ktundergrace .blogspot .com. So you can check that out. And so that would be a thing that you could do is check out hers. So let's move on to the next question.

Responding to Attacks While Sharing the Gospel

I want to try to do these kind of rapid fire, get as many questions as we can in the hour. Hopefully they will be helpful for you. This is an interesting one, and this one I think was one of the ones that was in the category of, you know, there's not going to be enough time to answer this one in the hour, but I'm going to read the question exactly as it is, and then I'm going to give you what I think the person was asking.

But what do we do when we are attacked by a Christian, quote, Christian, while sharing? Okay. So I think with the question being there is you're out on the street sharing the gospel. That's what I assume is the topic, and it could be two different things.

It could be sharing the gospel. One person when I was talking this question over with thought it could be just sharing God's word, and there is plenty of people who get attacked, you know, like we do here, for sharing the truth of God's word.

And so with that, I'm going to assume that it's dealing with the issue of sharing the gospel. And we deal with this a lot. How do you deal with, and the reason this was one of those questions I said that they thought were too much answers is initially interpreted as being attacked by other Christians just for sharing your views or your theology.

But so when we are out on the street a lot of times, especially if you're down in the south, everyone professes that they're a Christian, and yet their lifestyle. I remember being down at Fall for Greenville in Greenville, South Carolina, and we had this guy who was getting really, really rude, just really being rude to the preacher who was preaching.

And there was some guy in the crowd, two beers in his hand, he was drunk, and he was ready to get into a fist fight with a heckler. And his argument was, well I'm a Christian, I didn't like what he was saying about that about my brother up there.

And I'm like, yeah I'm thinking you're not a Christian like he's a Christian, just saying a little bit of a difference in the term Christian. And that's the thing, we understand that there's false converts out there.

I actually, I think that a lot of times when people throw out the, I'm a Christian, it's a logical fallacy, it's an appeal to authority. What they're saying is, they're attacking the Christian preacher really because they don't like what he's saying, or they don't like the style in the way he's saying it because he's just standing up and putting it out there.

And unfortunately we're living in a generation where a lot of people, quite frankly, they want to try to live a Christian life and live like the world. They don't want to be attacked by the world. And you're seeing this, a moral collapse within Christianity where they're just giving up on Biblical values to accept the world's values just because they want to get along and they don't want to be attacked, they want to be accepted.

Christianity will never be accepted by the world. And so, that's one point. One of the things though with me, with someone like that, is my heart breaks. I mean it's just hard to think, they're going to be one of those people that are going to stand before Christ on Judgment Day and they're going to go, Lord, Lord, haven't we done all these things for you?

And he's going to go, I never knew you'd depart from me, you who practice lawlessness. My heart breaks for people like that. I don't get prideful and like, oh yeah, yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.

So, what do we do? The question is, what do we do when we have a person like that? Here's what I do. The way that I like to handle that is I like to ask them a question that goes like this. If I have someone saying that they're a Christian, I don't know what they mean by Christian, I'll ask them, how did you become a Christian?

I may ask them what church they go to. A lot of times they'll say they're a Christian but they don't go to church. They can't find a good church. They're a Christian but they can't explain the gospel.

Sometimes I'll ask, can you explain the gospel to me? Can you tell me how to become a believer? And they'll just say, well, believe on Jesus. And I'll say, what if I'm Jewish and I believe that Jesus is Hitler's God and I want nothing to do with him?

Because that's what I grew up believing. And so they really don't know the gospel. But a question I like to ask to really show and explain really the issue, because a lot of times they go, well, I don't go to church but I have a relationship with God.

I don't need religion. I have a relationship. Okay, you have a relationship. I ask them how many times on average a month they read the Bible. The overwhelming average is three to four times. They'll tell me three or four times a month.

And so I say, okay, three or four times a month. I don't ask them if they pray because many people seem to pray when they're in trouble. But I ask them how many times they read their Bible. And then when they tell me three or four, I say, let me give you a scenario and see how good of a relationship you would have.

Suppose you got married or when you got married. Your spouse, you get back from the honeymoon and your spouse says, hey, that was a great wedding. Love the honeymoon. I'm going to go back to my place.

Maybe I'll give you a call three, four times a month and we could chat. What kind of relationship do you have? I didn't even get to the point of asking what kind of relationship you have with one woman.

She goes, I'd kill him. And so I said, so what kind of relationship would you have? She goes, none. He'd be dead. And I said, so what kind of relationship do you have with Christ if you're only listening to him, hearing from him three or four times a month?

And usually they go, ow, right? And like that one woman that wanted to kill her husband was just like, oh, I mean, just deflated. Because it makes the point. If you're going to say you're a Christian and you're going to profess that, but you don't read God's word, you're not listening to him.

It's a one-way Christianity. You want God to accept you on your terms and you get to direct to God the terms. And so that's not Christianity. All right, next question. Regarding open-air preaching, how should we go about asking slash seeking accountability, support and oversight?

Good question. I think that with that, it is a thing where when we look at that, we have to be aware that we do need the accountability. What I suggest doing is let your pastors know, your leadership know what you're doing.

Maybe they'll even come out with you. We here at Striving Fraternity have a friend in the ministry, Joe Conkle, and he goes out every week with his pastor to evangelize because he asked him. Now they go out and they take their, he went out and bought a prayer stand.

A prayer stand is put together from a friend of the ministry here. Go tell, I forget, just look up prayer stand. You'll see it's basically this, I don't know, I really don't know how to describe it, but it basically has a telescoping pole that says prayer up top.

So I think if you just type prayer stand, you're going to find it. But Joe just wanted to go out and hand out gospel tracts and have one-on-one conversations, and he wanted to be accountable to his church.

So what do you do? He asks his pastor. His pastor says, hey, can I come with you? Yeah, okay. So every week they go out and they set up their prayer stand, and they go out there and do that. And now that's the kind of accountability we all would like to have, right?

But what if your pastor doesn't agree? Now the question specifically was with open-air preaching because, well, yeah, that's the one that gets a lot of grief. You know, even at NorCal Fire this week, the host church, they knew of Dan Bowen, who is the guy that does all the organizing for the local organizing.

He's with open-air campaigners out there in the Bay Area. And you can end up looking at someone like him, and he's just out open-air preaching. He's friends with the pastor and the pastor's wife on Facebook, and they didn't have the best opinion of open-air preaching because why?

They've usually seen bad, you know, examples of it. We all have. And so a lot of people are not thrilled with open-air preaching. And they got a chance to see Dan in action and was like, wow, that's really cool.

Can we come out with you next week, you know? So it's in the chat. I'm being told that in the chat is the website for the prayer stands. It's goforthr, no, what is that? It's g-o-f-o-r-t-h-a-l-l .org.

Goforthroll, I guess. And it's slashprayerstations .com. I thought it was sounding like that, but anyway. So what you have with that is I would first suggest you talk to your pastor. Oh, goforthall, got it, goforthall .org.

There we go. And so, oh, Dorothy's saying that her pastor comes out with her to Texas Tech almost every Wednesday. So you see, the reality is a lot of pastors, they live in the Christian bubble where everyone they're talking to are Christians.

And so what you could do is you could invite your pastor and maybe it gets him to get out and evangelize as well. Sometimes some pastors want to, but they could be embarrassed as well. They have just the same nervousness as we all have.

So that would be the best. But if your pastor and leadership doesn't agree with open air preaching, you're going to have to decide whether you're not going to do it and you can still evangelize, but not through the open air, if that's the way you want to do it.

If they actually ask you not to do it. Now, if they're going to ask you not to open air, the question is going to be, are you giving out gospel tracts with their website name on it? Maybe the thing is to say, well, look, I'm going to do this as an individual, not as a member of this church, because I'm commanded to share the gospel, and so this is what I'm going to do.

So that's one thing you could do. I encourage you to bring people with you to say, would you just come and pray while I evangelize? I used to have a person that I said, look, they didn't want to hand out tracts or anything.

I said, would you just come out? Do me a favor, just come on out, and what I'd like you to do is just pray. Just hold the video camera. The only reason we have a video camera, you don't see lots of videos.

No, we don't put them up. The reason we have the video camera really is for our own protection. Just in case people say we did something, said something, we have proof. And this person running the video camera used to get asked all the time, hey, what are you guys doing out here?

And they were in gospel conversations over and over and over, and got used to evangelizing. So it's just something to think about, is just ask someone to come out from your church to join you, to pray while you're out there, just so you're not alone.

But I would go to your church, and so I would end up looking at your church to see what's their position going to be, and if they're against it, what I would say you do is work with them, try to find out why they're against it, invite your leadership out, and see maybe their impression of open air evangelism just is different than what you're doing.

If you're doing it well and they've only seen bad examples, then you want to check that out. All right, next question. I said I'm trying to keep it short. We're, how many minutes? 20 minutes into class?

So I still have a bunch more questions. We'll try to get through all of them. All right, next question. Top three reasons why Christianity is true, and give a little details. All right, why is Christianity true?

Three reasons. So reason number one, Christianity is true because it comes from God. Now, how do you support that? Well, I would support that this way. Every world religion is going to be bucketed into one of two things.

You either have a religion of human effort, Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah Witness, Hinduism, Buddhism, every ism you got, every single one of them is going to say that you are saved or made right with God through human effort.

Christianity is the only one that says it's by divine effort, by what God did. How do we know it's true? Because God did the work, not man. Man made religions put man as the one that does the work. God created religions, God does the work.

So, since Christianity is the only one in the category of God doing the work, that's how I would say it's true. It's true because it comes from God. Now you say, well wait a minute, how does that prove it's true?

Because God cannot lie. Therefore, if God says this is true, and He cannot lie, that makes it true. Now some people are saying, wait a minute Andrew, how do you know God cannot lie? Because He said so.

See, so you have circular logic. You're saying God, we can trust the Bible because God doesn't lie, but you only know that God doesn't lie because of the Bible. Well yes, the Bible is the most authoritative source for that.

The other source for that is, well the fact that we get knowledge of good coming from the nature of God. God cannot do evil, and therefore God can't lie. We need the Bible to be an authoritative source, and it is an authoritative source because it comes from God.

So that was what, two reasons. Third reason, well I guess technically three reasons, but another reason I would give would be, you know, Christianity is the only religion that, well let me split this in two.

Christianity is the only religion that offers true hope for eternal life, but that's tied to the reason I was going to say, is that in Christianity is the only religion that where you have both grace, or sorry, justice and mercy married together.

Okay? The reality is, is that when you look at even Islam where Muhammad would say that Allah is, Allah most merciful, okay? Most merciful, but not just. You see because in Islam you have Allah letting criminals go because he's showing mercy.

That's not justice. In every religion where you have God letting criminals go based on other good works that they do, he's not just. I mean, would you consider a judge just if he raped and murdered somebody?

And he says, but your honor, I never stole from anybody. Oh, well you know what? I'm going to show you mercy. You did good in this area. I'm going to let you go. No! He wouldn't be just at all because he's not on trial for stealing.

He's on trial for rape and murder. Right? You and I are on trial. Every human being are on trial for the sins we commit against the infinitely holy God. That's the reality. We can't say, look, I walked this old lady across the street.

That's nice. That's not what you're being sentenced for. Okay? In Christianity you have justice and mercy married together. God did punish every sin or will. Every sin will suffer the consequence of punishment.

But God in his mercy took that upon himself but the punishment is still meted out. He just took it upon himself. So he did punish and he did show mercy and only within Christianity do you see those two married up.

The Reliability of the Bible and Textual Criticism

Next question. All right. I know, I'm trying to get through them quick. We still have, what, like six, almost a dozen questions left. So I'm going to try to get through these in an hour. Regarding a truth claim, how would you answer a person who claims that the Bible has too many errors to be true?

And I'm going to tie this actually with the next question. The next question was, how can one succinctly express to an honest inquirer the reliability and veracity of the Bible? So I'm going to take these two together.

This is dealing with a topic known as textual criticism. All right. How do we know that the Bible is reliable? And the argument usually goes like this, that we have copies of copies of copies and those copies were changed and therefore we can't really know what the original Bible said because of all these copies that were, copying that was done.

So because you have some things worded in some manuscripts one way, it was changed in a different way, that's called a variance and anytime you have that, therefore the argument states that we can't know what the Bible said.

Okay. And because of the fact that we have these variances. Now let's deal a couple things with these variances real quick. When we talk about variances, you'll hear those liberals argue that there's over 400 ,000 variances in the Bible.

The strange thing, or sorry, in the New Testament. The strange thing about that is that there's more than, there's like only 100 ,000 letters in the New Testament. So basically you have four times as many variances than letters, right?

Or words and things. So when you look at this, it's like clearly when you look at that, how do you have that more variance, four times more variances than you do the words or letters and things like that?

Well it's because they counted, like if I misspell one word, you know I spell the word cat and one time I spell it C-O-T and one time I spell it C-U-T and so one time it says cot and one time it says cut but the word should have been cat.

They count that as three variances. I would say it's one variance. Why? Because it's one word. I mean you had it changed differently. Which one's the right one? Well okay, let's deal with that later but it's only one.

So right from there you know they're exaggerating the numbers because you can't have four times the variance than the words. So once you do that and you scale that back, you find out that it's really not that much.

Now how do we know it's reliable? First off, the Bible was not created the way they keep arguing that it was a telephone game. One person tells another person, tells another person, tells another. In other words, I wrote a copy and gave it to one person, that person made a copy, that next person made a copy and so on and so on.

It's not how it worked. It would have worked if I would have made ten copies, given it to ten people, a copy to each and they made ten copies and they gave it to and they made ten copies. The idea there being different is when you have one person spell cat as cut, you end up in a situation where now the people are okay, this one guy over here said cut.

All these other people, 90 of the people are saying cat. Who do you think is wrong? When you can see these families of manuscripts and you see that everyone in this area, so everyone in Ohio got cat or cut and everyone in New York and Virginia and New Jersey and California all say cat.

You're going to say someone in Ohio misspelled it. That's how you would do it. And so then what you end up doing is you look and you go okay, let's take a look at there and see what happened. So you can get back to the original when you realize that some of these manuscript variances are all in a specific geographical area so you see that it's all those copying that was done there but all these other areas, because remember these copies were going all around the world and being made all over the place.

So when you see all these other geographic areas having it done one way in one area, you can probably say this, chances are this one's not the right one so what can you do? You can get back to the original word, cat.

Sometimes it's just a misspelling. Instead of cat, they put CTA. They were dyslexic. Or the context. My mom bought me a cut today. A what? Now it could be cut or it could be cat but the idea being is one of them, and I took my cut and played with its fur.

Well, okay, now it's not a cot. It's a cat, right? You can figure out the misspelling. Oh, yeah, like autocorrect on my phone. Yeah, sometimes autocorrect does its own little variances. So what you have though is you end up realizing that we can get back to the original.

In fact, the fact that we have 70 ,000 manuscripts, we have so many manuscripts in the New Testament that we can then figure out and get back to some of the original by looking at all the other manuscripts.

We can figure out where the changes occurred and this is one of the things, first off, to the reliability. Let me answer this one. Can we successfully give the reliability? It's simply this. The fact that we have so many copies, so many manuscripts, what that allows us is to know where the variances occurred and because we know where those variances occurred, because of that, that's how we know that not a single doctrine is affected.

It's little things like, you know, the fact that some manuscripts say that Jesus was a carpenter, others say he was the son of a carpenter, but there's no doctrine based on that and so does it matter?

Can we get back to the original? That one there is one we can't get back to the original. Was Jesus a carpenter? We all think so. It would make sense because that's the culture that he would do what, you know, his father did.

So if his father was, you know, his father was a carpenter, Jesus was probably a carpenter. Fair assumption. So what if he, do we really need to know? Well, we can't, in some of those texts, we can't get back to the original to say based on the way that that happened, that variance, we can't get back to the original.

So and here becomes the question, does it affect the meaning? So one is can you get back to the original? Two, can you, does it affect the meaning? And so there are some things that affect the meaning.

Him being a carpenter versus the son of a carpenter. It affects the meaning. However, the question that has to be asked is does it affect any doctrine, any teaching of the church? And the answer is no.

Okay, so does the Bible have errors? The Bible has copyist changes, times where people would write in the margin some notes and then that worked its way into the text. We have a passage of the Bible where Jesus works with the adulterous woman is brought to him.

That's probably not in the original manuscripts. Why do we think that? Because we have some manuscripts, you know, it's like in different places that accounting is in different chapters. Well, they didn't have chapters back then, but it's worked its way in different areas of the text.

So, you know, is it here? Is it there? You know, we're really not sure. Many people think that much of the end of Mark 16 was probably not in the original. Does that affect anything? Well, only if you're a snake handler, you know.

The only thing that that really affects is everything we see in Mark is, you know, Mark 16 at the end there, we have other passages that talk about that. We see Paul being bitten by a snake and not dying, but we don't know that Jesus actually said that this would happen.

Drinking poison? Okay, so we don't know anything about that. You know, there's no accounting of that. So, that's how I would answer that. Because we have so many manuscripts, we actually have a better argument.

We don't question Julius Caesar, that he was Caesar, that he died, and yet we have more. We have more evidence for the New Testament than we do Julius Caesar. So, I think the Iliad is the second closest to the Bible in the number of manuscripts.

So, we have like 70 ,000 manuscripts in the New Testament and we have like, I think, they have now up to almost 600 of the Iliad. The other thing you want to note with that is how close to the original writing.

I think with the Iliad, it's like 1 ,500 years from the oldest manuscript we have to the original writing. Where in the Bible, we have within 30 years. You know, an area that many scholars are going to look for manuscripts are in mummy's tombs in Egypt.

Because in Egypt, the New Testament was being copied. And the interesting thing is, this is copies that would have been thrown away. And so, the other thing they look for is places where they'd whitewash the paper because paper was really expensive.

So, they'd whitewash it and write other things over it. And people find that there's scripture that was whitewashed. The reason that becomes important is this was stuff that was typically older, especially in mummy's tombs, where we have things that are within 30 years of its writing.

And this is things that people were throwing away. Okay? So, the importance of that becomes if you're trying to manufacture, as the argument goes, that people manufactured that Jesus was God in the Gospels, and they got rid of the older copies and kept newer copies, then go to places where people threw out old copies, like mummy's tombs, like whitewashing paper, and see what those older ones said.

Because those were the ones that people weren't trying to keep around. And you know what we find? They match. It wasn't edited. That's where, like, the Dead Sea Scrolls was such a great find because the Dead Sea Scrolls actually dated 1 ,000 years prior to the oldest copy of the Bible that we had.

And the reason that becomes so important is because, you know, people were arguing, like, oh, well, Daniel must have been written after the Romans because he was so detailed in the prophecies. And so they say he couldn't have done this unless it was afterwards.

And oops, you find something that's dated 1 ,000 years earlier and you find out that, yeah, it was before the Romans because they have it. You know, Isaiah was... The argument with Isaiah and his prophecies of Christ that they said there were three Isaiahs and one was written to be, you know, during Isaiah's real time.

And then the two other Isaiahs wrote after the history occurred. But now you find a copy of Isaiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls that is identically matching with the one that we have 1 ,000 years later. No changes.

So that's what you end up with. All right? Next question. Well, this one's really not a question. Presuppositional apologetics versus evidential apologetics. That's all it says. I guess we could say go.

I think the reason this question was asked was because Jim Wallace is an evidential apologist. And I would be a presuppositional apologist. So it was like, okay, give us the differences. I think that's what's in the question.

So let me give you the differences. And there's a third, which is classical. Evidential apologetics would argue from the evidence to God. So you'd hear some evidential apologetics say we don't need the Bible to prove God exists, to prove the things of God.